also Zug, Bus, glaube sogar Schiffe
#archived-culture-study-visa
foggy prism
für mich lohnt sich ein Halbtax wenn ich 4 Wochenenden zuhause verbringe
das Halbtax ist mehr ein Bonus. Wenn du in Zürich wohnst willst du auf jeden fall einen Netzpass
worthy leaf
also ist es meistens für wenn man außerhalb von Zürich reist
foggy prism
das Halbtax kannst du dir überlegen, falls du häufig rumreisen willst
die meisten Schweizer haben eins :P
worthy leaf
ok
foggy prism
… zumindest die, die nicht in Zürich leben
foggy prism
auf die Strecke müsstest du dir das GA holen
Zürich-Chur Steckenabo ist teurer als das GA
was überhaupt keinen Sinn macht
worthy leaf
wofür steht GA
foggy prism
Generalabonnement
worthy leaf
ohh ich guck mal
worthy leaf
aw
foggy prism
das GA lohnt sich wirklich nur, wenn du viel im Zug bist
also ich hab’s mir mal ausgerechnet, ich müsste jedes Wochenende nach Hause und wieder zurück nach Zürich reisen, dass es sich für mich lohnen würde
worthy leaf
der Netzpass gilt auch für Züge oder? also innerhalb der Schweiz
worthy leaf
oh ja ich hatte eine in Zürich gesehen
foggy prism
(was noch wichtig ist, denn die ETH ist mit einer zum Zentrum verbunden)
worthy leaf
weiß eigentlich nicht wo die Polyterrasse ist. ich kenne nur die zwei Campus
foggy prism
Polyterasse ist die grosse Terasse vor dem HG
wenn du von unten (also vom Hauptbahnhof her) ins HG willst, gehst du da durch
worthy leaf
oh. ich bin zu Fuß gegangen...
foggy prism
der Platz hier
foggy prism
worthy leaf
ja genau
ach warte ich habe die Vorderseite des HGs mit der Hinterseite verwechselt
die im Bild is die Hinterseite :P
foggy prism
ist jetzt fragwürdig, was wirklich die Vorderseite ist ^^
aber ja offiziell schon
aber wenn du nicht völlig ineffizient läufst, landest du hinten
worthy leaf
ich würde sagen die Seite auf der Rämistrasse ist die Vorderseite da das die Adresse ist
worthy leaf
ja ich sah zuerst die nördliche Seite und erkannte das Gebäude nicht
was etwas seltsam war als ich zwei Männer fragte wo das HG war
foggy prism
ich denke, mehr Leute kommen “hinten” in die Schule rein als “vorne”
worthy leaf
interessant
worthy leaf
also viele kommen mit dem Zug zur Schule?
worthy leaf
ja sicher
foggy prism
viele bleiben einfach während dem Studium noch bei den Eltern, wenn’s nicht zu weit weg ist
ist einfach einfacher
worthy leaf
ich hab die Details des Prestudy Events bekommen und offensichtlich ist der auch für Mathe Studierende
foggy prism
ja, das ist normal
worthy leaf
D-MATH ist am HG oder
worthy leaf
ja dieser auch
aber ich glaube Physik ist meistens am Hönggerberg Campus
also die Vorlesungen
foggy prism
ja, wir hatten die Physik-Fächer (also Phys 1&2) oben
und alles andere unten, aber nicht zwingend im HG
worthy leaf
muss man oft von einem Campus zum anderen fahren
foggy prism
die meisten Vorlesungen hatten wir im ML (grad nebenan)
ach ja noch was: bei mir war Physik mit abstand das zweitschlechteste Fach
und du hast den gleichen Professor
überleg dir Selbststudium ^^
worthy leaf
woher weißt du dass ich den gleichen Prof haben werde
foggy prism
kann man nachschauen
worthy leaf
oh
worthy leaf
danke für den Tipp
foggy prism
vvz, mystudies und mail sind die drei ethz-domains die du kennen musst
auf mystudies hast du aber wahrscheinlcih noch keinen Zugriff
ah und echo
worthy leaf
übrigens was war also das schlechteste Fach
foggy prism
vvz → vorlesungen nachschauen, z.B. für GESS-fächer
mystudies → alles organisatorische, und links zu den vorlesungswebseiten
mail → selbsterklärend
echo → einschreiben in die übungsgruppen (wahrscheinlich)
Numerik
im 2. Semester
also Numerische Methoden; aber Numerische Mathematik 1 (für die Mathematiker) soll auch nicht viel besser gewesen sein
worthy leaf
gibt es einen herunterladbaren Kalender mit den Vorlesungen
foggy prism
hoff, dass du nen anderen Lehrer hast, aber Gradinaru macht das schon seit Jahren
auf mystudies kannst du dir nen Stundenplan machen, wenn du dann zugriff hast
und die eth-edu app hat nen Stundenplan eingebaut
worthy leaf
ich bevorzuge alles auf dem Kalender meines Handys zu haben
foggy prism
ja das geht auch, aber ich würde es manuell machen
es macht für jede lektion einen separaten eintrag
wenn du übungsassistent wechselst, kannst du den kalender löschen
Manuell dauert nicht so lange, und ist viel einfach zum Anpassen
wenn sich mal was ändert
worthy leaf
ok
abstract crest
reminder that you must consume one Nutellabrot per meal otherwise you will never be able to truly grasp the german language
waxen arch
^ facts
viral geyser
Uh...was ist mit dem 03. Oktober? Oder Regionalfeiertagen?
viral geyser
Niedersachsen hat mittlerweile glaube ich auch den Reformationstag als Feiertag.
foggy prism
ich mag die regionalen Unterschiede ja, hier in Zürich hats so viel mehr Feiertage als zuhause in Graubünden
GR hat die ganzen religiösen Feiertage mehr odee weniger aufgegeben, weil die Region weder richtig katholisch noch reformiert ist
ZH hat neben religiösen auch noch einige sekuläre Feiertage, noch von den Zünften her
viral geyser
Wenn ihr mehr Feiertage haben wollt, werdet christlich 😄
foggy prism
das ist ja nicht das problem, die frage ist welches christlich
die Reformation hat ziemlich gut die halbe Schweiz getroffen
Deutschland ist zwar auch nicht viel weniger chaotisch, oder?
hm wenigstens ist's bei euch halbwegs geographisch unterteilt, so der Karte nach
https://i.imgur.com/oS62zUw.png ich find die Schweiz sieht schon schlimmer aus
viral geyser
Na joa
karmic yew
Scweiz sieht hier als eine alte Karte von Heiliges Römisches Reich
whole pecan
Mike Mitchells' ist ein ehrliche "amerikanisches" Brand hier😂 😂 😂
whole pecan
Es freut mich viel, dass die Firma hat als einem amerikanischen Name "Mike Mitchells" gewählt
whole pecan
In meiner Albträume schaue ich KABEL 1...
polar valley
so I'm trying to figure out what the most effective way for me to get a proof of language for my uni app would be based off of this list:
I have been trying to figure this out on my own but I'm pretty unfamiliar with some of the tests
jagged charm
haha why is german citizenship proof
I'm a citizen but i don't live there and don't speak it fluently
polar valley
hmmm greencard marriage is an option i haven't considered
no but really, if all else fails I will just be going for goethe-zertifikat A2 but it seems like this has some flexibility that I might be able to find a way to get it even easier
jagged charm
What's this for?
polar valley
Universität der Kunst
foggy prism
can you even get german citizenship without either being born into it or speaking german?
jagged charm
I am born into it
exotic barn
@foggy prism yes if your parents/grandparents are german
foggy prism
that’s “being born into it”
exotic barn
oops
foggy prism
I mentioned that
exotic barn
but i mean its still possible
8 years of work
and then you should take an exam
🤔 roughly so
also you can marry a german citizen
foggy prism
can you get a job in germany without speaking german tho?
I mean I reckon yes but it’s gonna be hard
perhaps in academia if you jump in at the master’s or phd level
exotic barn
I think you can, in some international companies 🤔 but you were right again, one must have B1 and higher
hidden briar
there is also delivery driver, constuction site worker, restaurant kitchens...
foggy prism
I feel like most of those would have to know some german because they have to interact with other workers that don0t necessarily speak their lang
like yea, the lingua franca at construction sites is portuguese
but you still have to know german for when the boss comes over anyway
red fog
Portuguese? 🤔
foggy prism
that’s what it is in my region at least, in others it’s italian
my region has a lot of portuguese immigrants, stereotypically the men are construction workers and the women cleaning personell
red fog
Here the stereotypical construction worker is Polish
Are there not a lot of Polish construction workers in Germany?
gaunt flare
My boyfriend works on a construction site and he sometimes tells me about workers from the Czech Republic
whole pecan
On Intercity trains, what is the difference between sparangebote and flexpreis
What do you have to do to get the sparangebote price?
hidden briar
to get: book very early
important difference: with flexpreis you can take any train on that line on that day, sparpreis is one specific train and time
whole pecan
If I miss my connecting train due to issues with the first one, I can just take the same train, but later without penalty right
@exotic barn uff Mein Spitzname ist "Schalke fährt Relegationsplatz"
exotic barn
Depends on whether you have a Sparpreis or Flexangebot
exotic barn
Then your ticket is bound to one train and one only
whole pecan
But mine Was a combination Ticket
exotic barn
Trains usually wait for you if the delay is caused by them
sick imp
@whole pecan you literally made the guy leave. 
exotic barn
Otherwise speak to a member of staff
whole pecan
I mean, I have to get to Duisburg by 11:02 to catch the second train, but due to issues with the frisst one, I cant
It wont wait for me in this case right?
exotic barn
By how much is your train delayed
exotic barn
I'd suggest you talk to staff on the train
They usually know what to do in this case
whole pecan
Ah ok
Wait so, if I was going to düsseldorf Hbf instead of Duisburg, what would I do in this case?
Since the train will termine at Duisburg
foggy prism
(God, German trains sound complicated)
foggy prism
here you just buy a ticket for some route and then that's valid for one trip, within the day. You aren't bound to particular trains or times
(okay, there are like off-peak saver options where you do have to take a particular train for up to 50% price reduction)
whole pecan
Obligatorische fick Deutsche bahn
exotic barn
It's the same here for literally every option except the Sparpreis
foggy prism
ah I see
whole pecan
Find staff?
whole pecan
So what would they arrange
foggy prism
unless you're at zürich HB and it's 35 degrees and the waiting time is 30mins
exotic barn
If someone tells you to take train X, ask them for their name. That could prove to be a lifesaver if another member of staff wants to make you pay following potentially bad advice
whole pecan
Ok...
foggy prism
here they solve that problem by just printing you a new ticket
that is definitely valid
whole pecan
Also there should be conductors on trains right?
foggy prism
happens a lot on IC trains when someone was being an idiot and bought the wrong ticket
whole pecan
It's quite strange that ive never seen one
foggy prism
I assume germany does it the same as us, with the Selbstkontrolle system
exotic barn
there are usually 2-3 conductors on the train
foggy prism
where most trains don't hsve a conductor and they do irregular ticket checks
whole pecan
Oh
exotic barn
not for ICs or ICEs
foggy prism
yea our ICs also don't do that, but every other train and bus does
IC have fixed staff and you csn buy tickets on the train
every other train you have to have the ticket validated beforehand
exotic barn
same here
tight kelp
i just go with the flow :D
i'm used to much worse trains honestly (although cheaper)
but if i had bought a ticket only valid for a specific train and that train had problems I'd go talk to the staff and have them find me a solution or refund - there's not much to think about honestly
whole pecan
Update: announcer said something about Köln and Plattform 8, and almost everyone on my Plattform left
Should I be worried?
whole pecan
Mm
whole pecan
The Digital Board is still showing my train
foggy prism
keep an eye on it I guess
if lots of people leave a platfoem then it's likely a platform change
or an Ausfall ^^
tight kelp
also you could just ask one of them
foggy prism
our trainstations usually have some train crew at just about any major platform that you could just walk up to and ask for information
tight kelp
it's the same here. We're on the same planet ^^
foggy prism
and this, my friends, is why you don't buy Spartickets
they take every opportunity to screw you over
(I mean I'm still going to do so but Zürich-Chur is like ridiculously robust)
in a year of commuting that, I've had two bad experiences
foggy prism
One time delays in other trains caused a 20 minute delay and then the train didn't go all the way to Chur and I had to take a crowded S-Bahn for the last segment
and one time a suicide happened on one of the busiest segments of the train network...
whole pecan
Ouch
foggy prism
my train took a detour, instead of taking one hour it took three. I myself decided to say fuck it and went on a journey of chaining regional trains
except I forgot my winter jacket on the IC
when I left in a hurry after they announced the detour they'd take
so I was way faster but then had to wait foe an hour
because the train crew literally didn't even believe me that train my jacket wad on existed, their sysyems showed it as cancelled, and so they couldn't arranhe for my jacket to be left in Chur for me to pick ip the next day
whole pecan
Honestly with all this shit id take amtrak in a heartbeat
foggy prism
would you really tho
whole pecan
Never thought id ever say that But there you go
foggy prism
amtrak is ridiculously expensive tho, I once checked some prices and came to thr conclusion thst the only reason you'd tske them is for a change of pace
foggy prism
(I was considering going to the states for that eclipse on my 21st birthday)
but decided against it for monetary reasons
whole pecan
Lol
whole pecan
Verspätungen, verspaetungen, verspaetungen....
Jetzt beim Flughafen
Eihhhhh
British Airways, warum toet mich so
exotic barn
Heyo, do you please have any tips on renting a place in Germany? I’m looking for WGs.
solemn bay
Invest in a sleeping bag because you're going to be homeless.
exotic barn
Yeah, but i meant like the process of finding and renting a place.
foggy prism
- search for ages
- find nothing
- despair
- ???
- wait for a miracle
- ???
- if the miracle didn’t happen you don’t have an interesting story to tell
exotic barn
Ok, I’ll start looking for the sleeping bag
ember shoal
Anyone knows if passing the TestDaf equates to C2? Because according to this page https://www.study-in.de/en/plan-your-studies/requirements/german-skills_26609.php
you need to be C2 to not take it :(
tight kelp
@exotic barn well it pretty much amounts to looking for a place and contacting the owner until you find a decent place and terms
also you'll need a german account to pay
exotic barn
Do i need anything else apart from a german account?
exotic barn
Isn’t that just an application?
fleet pelican
no idea what it is suzie, its a problem for me for 1 months time
but rith is looking for an apartment from a hostel too
tight kelp
the anmeldung is after you find the place
you have to go to the city hall and register yourself, it's easy
fleet pelican
lmfao he was going on about how he had to get it so he could have a job
poor lad he's confused me and himself
exotic barn
Oh, a residence permit
tight kelp
oh i dunno about permits, i'm a eu citizen 👀
exotic barn
is it called differently for eu citizens when you go announce your place of residence?
fleet pelican
so is rith afaik
tight kelp
well going by the name, a permit would be something you ask before you take residence
i'd call it registration or something like that
exotic barn
I see
fleet pelican
so you cant actually live there until you have this permit?
exotic barn
No doch, you just find a flat and go tell the office that you live there rn
tight kelp
you can. You have to register within 2 weeks (?) after you've moved in
exotic barn
8 days iirc
fleet pelican
oh thank god otherwise it wouldve been awful
exotic barn
Same lol
sick imp
3 days in Austria.
sick imp
I mean, it's not a big deal.
You just go to a place, bring your passport with you and say hey lmao im here now ok xd.
fleet pelican
it wouldnt be a big deal if I didnt have a lot of other things to do lmao
foggy prism
bring your passport with you
and your contract
gotta prove you actually live there ya know
happened to a friend; they told him at some other place that you just had to bring ID when moving. then he was at the office and they were like “so uh, do you have any proof that you actually live there?”
exotic barn
Yes
fleet pelican
yeetus
winged quiver
Is the Nürnberg dialect similar to that of München?
foggy prism
eeeh... it’s east franconian, so not bavarian
I’m not familiar with them but purely from a classification standpoint they’re pretty different
winged quiver
Oh alright thanks
I think the Nürnberg dialect (east franconian) is the one I want to learn, do you just happen to have anything materials wise for that (anything accepted :D)
ember shoal
@winged quiver why do you want to learn a specific dialect?
winged quiver
It helps remove your accent
when you learn a specific way to pronounce things instead of just having the general language
ember shoal
thanks for the tips!
winged quiver
Oh no problem, but please don't take them as true facts or something, it's simply just something I heard and I hope will work
I desperatly want to stop sounding American when I speak German
tight kelp
@winged quiver with German you don't really need to do that. English has several different standards and if you want to get rid of your local accent you have to pick and work towards one, but with German you can pick either Hochdeutsch (arguably the most useful and "most standard"ised one) or the variety spoken in southern Germany, Switzerland and Austria (which is not one single unit, but has several things in common with each other and several differences with Hochdeutsch)
regional dialects of the "hochdeutsch area" are not going to be useful, in fact they may even hinder communication since most natives don't understand dialects and expect to communicate in hochdeutsch (or regionally coloured versions of it, that are still going to be much closer to the standard than they are to the local dialect)
foggy prism
while I am always going to be supportive of learning dialects, I must agree, that is a silly reason to do so. If you wanna get rid of your accent, do accent training for standard german. You're of course free to pick a non-standard pronunciation scheme (aka accent) and stick with that, as long as you do it consistently enough; it's going to be a hell of a lot harder to find resources on that though
but learning a dialect is like learning yet another language on top. it's the easy mode of language learning because a whole lot carries over or becomes predictable, but it is still a lot of effort. and it'll only fix your accent if you get it right there and are capable of carrying that over to the standard in a reasonable way - this sounds a lot harder to me than just learning to speak the standard itself properly
exotic barn
What happens in Germany if there are more candidates with the same Abitur average than there are places in an NC program? For example, a uni accepts 30 people for medicine with NC 1.0 and there are 50 people with 1.0 - do they get all accepted or does it depend in sth else then?
exotic barn
You get put on a waiting list
How do they decide who gets put on the waiting list?
first come first serve
afaik
I see, so sending the application earlier is better
yeah
Thanks
anytime
topaz nimbus
Hello! Sorry for asking such a stupid question but does anyone know if there are any german universities that accept students with a less than B2 german level and offer them german courses throughout the year? Because every university I find requires B2 even if the programme is in english. Thanks 😃
exotic barn
You can study just german one year and then apply for your program. @exotic barn should know, but you can check out BTU Cottbus
topaz nimbus
Is one year enough to achieve B2 level?
exotic barn
not unless youre a polyglot genius
exotic barn
aye
ember shoal
I am in the same situation as you Doritos
Maybe you can get a B2 in English
@exotic barn Even those programs needs english certification, right?
exotic barn
@topaz nimbus I achieved C1 in a year.
fleet pelican
Polygot
exotic barn
@ember shoal no idea, but English programs need english certification 🤔
exotic barn
Just learn the vocab you will need
Don't mind stupit useless words that you can learn later
ember shoal
oooo
exotic barn
Programs in german dont require English
ember shoal
ooooh
exotic barn
although in Austrian unis English B2 is a musthave
exotic barn
what do you mean
ember shoal
Are you talking about Germany* universities?
exotic barn
In Austria you can apply with English B2 and German B2 (C1 by enrollment). In Germany you need C1 German for application, but in some unis you can apply with B2 (you should contact unis personally for further information) and provide a C1 certificate by enrollment, also it's possible to take a bridge year, when you learn the language.
I'm speaking of programs taught in German here^
ember shoal
ooo
danke
Yeah I wanted to do my masters there but I need B2 to register and C1 to get my grade
ember shoal
masters/phd but going for a german certification is not bad either
sadly my mind is foggy
exotic barn
I reckon there are many masters/phd programs taught in English
exotic barn
Really?
ember shoal
yeah sadly
exotic barn
Usually you don't
ember shoal
Yes! it is stated in the study abroad page
exotic barn
What's your specialization?
ember shoal
Computer Science
exotic barn
What, let me google. It's strange for CS 🤔
ember shoal
yeah, I was so sad :'(
At least, it say I can get a job and get the working visa, which is my alternative
exotic barn
Hm, well
I just opened the site of my uni
and there are programs that are taught only in English
ember shoal
ooo
exotic barn
you probably saw programs than are taught in German but have English courses too
ember shoal
"You must provide documentation of your language skills for the language of instruction at the time of enrollment. Exam regulations."
this means, B2
exotic barn
they do need proficiency in German
ember shoal
yeah buut b2 in english
I prefer having a b2 in german which last forever
than a b2 in english that last 2 years
exotic barn
What do you mean?
Also I just showed you an example of a master program that doesnt require German. So just google other unis.
ember shoal
Yeah but it DOES require english language skills certification
exotic barn
Of course it does
ember shoal
That's the problem :'(
exotic barn
Dude there are no such programs that need neither English nor German 
topaz nimbus
how did you achieve C1 in a year 😂 I'm very motivated to do so but the thing is all programmes take forever to complete A and B levels
For example, some programmes take at least 6 months for the A1 level, when I'm sure it can be done in less time
@exotic barn
English isn't a problem. I'm fluent in it but even english programmes require B2 german
exotic barn
Lol A1 is achievable in 2 weeks
I studied alone/with private teachers who were natives
topaz nimbus
Oh okay I'll try to find a private teacher then. I bet they can teach faster than institutions
Thank you so much @exotic barn
exotic barn
@exotic barn it was just a random question, i don’t have problems with my program c:
@exotic barn I was referring to you because you could tell us about getting in a language course at uni
ember shoal
What is a bridge year?
ember shoal
ooo danke
winged quiver
we call them gap years
whole pecan
Yeah
exotic barn
No, a bridge year is when your language level isn't good enough for university and you study the language
Gap year is a self orientation year 👀
winged quiver
We use them interchanably :p
rose cedar
Bridge year sounds fancy and foreign 😃
exotic barn
I just read this term on some uni page 👀
humble bough
random question: an ad for a room that I'm looking at asks for "eine Kopie von deinem Perso" -- can someone help me out with what that is?
(specifically what a "Perso" is)
tropic arrow
Perso is the abbreviation for Personalausweis
humble bough
I... don't really know what that is either.
is it normal for a WG ad to ask for that?
tropic arrow
It's an identification card
humble bough
I know I'm not supposed to trust ads that ask for a copy/picture of my passport because they're used for scams but is it the same deal with an ID?
:/
tropic arrow
I'm not sure about that o':
exotic barn
Yes, it's generally quite fishy if someone asks for a copy of your ID
exotic barn
@exotic barn oh sorry, i totally misread your msg lol
@topaz nimbus Karlsruhe accepts with b1 i think, no sure if it offers courses tho
And yeah, one year is enough for b2 if you put in a lot of effort
foggy prism
@humble bough send them a picture of a persian rug instead. also yea that sounds really weird. A photo I could understand, especially if you can't come to visit, but your ID?
topaz nimbus
thanks @exotic barn
fleet pelican
where do I buy cheap shrimp
a bag in rewe is like 6 euros
I want just the best euro/gram value
jagged charm
not much sea
exotic barn
Depends on where you live, I'd say
rain panther
Get it? Get it?
jagged charm
ayy
humble bough
@foggy prism to make things fishier, the ad didn't have pics and said that they'd send them once you passed the preselection with ID, Schufa, and proof of income.
winged quiver
(Die Personalausweis?)
foggy prism
Der Ausweis
winged quiver
Danke
hexed sluice
@exotic barn you live in Karlsruhe?
exotic barn
have fun there c:
hexed sluice
I am indeed. Slowly looking for a job xD
exotic barn
Heyo, which german bank would you recommend for a student?
exotic barn
whats LZO?
exotic barn
do most germans use sparkasse? 👀
cursive elm
I really don’t know
rain panther
Idk i think they are all same
exotic barn
well, i was also considering commerzbank
cursive elm
I can’t really help u anymore so.. have fun with people who really know something about this
exotic barn
ok, thanks
exotic barn
Depends on what you want, really
If you don't care about not having a physical bank, I'd recommend IngDiba
i think i would rather a physical bank
Accounts are free there and you get a visa/debit card
Well, why would you need a physical bank?
i prefer to ask in person if i have any problems
sick imp
So you can say things like hey I'm going to the bank.
And complain to your friends about waiting in the long queue at the bank.
exotic barn
like, you choose when you want to meet the consultant
sick imp
If your consultant is a robot you can talk to him 24/7 tho.
exotic barn
hello, i would like to find information about my great-grandmother that is born in Stuttgart but I can't find anything on the internet since I don't speak german, can anyone help me?
kindred birch
Is she dead already?
hidden briar
if it's personal information it's not going to be online. You'll probably need to contact the Stadtarchiv (city archive).
exotic barn
@kindred birch yes a while ago
@hidden briar ok thank you, could you help me find contact information of the stadtarchiv of stuttgart?
abstract crest
https://www.stuttgart.de/stadtarchiv
emails and phone numbers are on this page:
exotic barn
@abstract crest viele dank
ember shoal
Vielen*
Also, I wanna know more about this IngDiba.
Never had a bank account before so It's this unphysical bank safe?
It's for germans only? Needs a place of residence in Germany :(
hidden briar
Have an account there, no problems so far.
ember shoal
ooh danke!
humble bough
ey so can someone lemme know if I'm reading this right because I'm like 99% sure this ad is like... propositioning me?????
Also kurz: Wir suchen eine Mitbewohnerin, mit der man etwas mehr erleben kann.
not sure if this is the right channel but it's sort of culture I guess
exotic barn
sounds like they want to adopt you
humble bough
does Massage and Netflix have the same connotations in German
humble bough
lol that's why I posted it here lol
tight kelp
until the massage it sounds rather friendly
then even a naïve don quijote like me starts finding it weird
foggy prism
yes you’re reading this ad right sparks
tight kelp
sounds like a great lead if one's into promiscuous group activities
humble bough
200€/month was suspicious enough w/o the massage tbh
foggy prism
but yea like, it was actually pretty cute until that point, then it just turned… weird
humble bough
prolly standard unicorn-hunters I guess... weird though, I didn't list my sexual orientation on my search ad
worthy leaf
Has anyone here moved to Switzerland before?
sick imp
@pliant ravine though he's been a bit dead.
worthy leaf
Oh :\
exotic barn
Is it true that insurance companies in Germany will pay for you if you wanna workout in a gym?
hidden briar
Prevention is cheaper than treatment...
exotic barn
@exotic barn not sure if you noticed but the linked article states that your insurance only pays for individual courses with an instructor
I did
Still good
It’s the first time i hear of any country doing this
tacit briar
If I remember correctly, some Krankenkassen offer discounts if you're regularly working out or do the necessary check-ups
Some even consider more direct methods: https://www.nettolohn.de/magazin/krankenversicherung/praemien-fuer-gesunden-lebensstil-krankenkassen-sammeln-fitnessdaten.html
fleet pelican
THAT SOUNDS AMAZING
abstract coral
what does leben unterm dach mean?
tacit briar
That you're not a hobo (so live under a roof) , since there's always social housing available in the German speaking countries 😉
exotic barn
An explanation for the channel name is pinned here
sick imp
I can't read pinned messages can you explain sir please?
chilly narwhal
foggy prism
it's also a title given out by royality, especially the queen of england
it is very fancy to have this title
tacit briar
There're places where "sir" is still quite popular. In my experience, people from India seem to often prefer it over "mister"
jagged charm
^
tight kelp
I've never heard an American say mister instead of sir, at least not unironically
foggy prism
in England I got Sir'd at a hotel
the level of formality caught me so off-guard that I was unable to speak for a few seconds
jagged charm
a stun spell
foggy prism
mh more like silence
humble bough
idk about England but in the US it depends a ton based on region
like in the South "yes sir" and "yes ma'am" are suuuper common but up here like no one ever says them
jagged charm
it's not very common in the UK but it's done a little in posh hospitality type situations
and then there's some people who just like saying it
winged quiver
@tight kelp I use Mister all the time, especially in school but that is more like Mr___
vernal tundra
sir and ma'm are super common here
winged quiver
I think casual sir and in more fancy situation mister and misses
tight kelp
well of course you're not going to use sir as a title for given names lol
let's put it like this: if you'd be able to write mister as Mr, then it's not what we're talking about
winged quiver
lol what are you going on about
I clearly said that the mister more in school is the mr.
geesh, you must think low of me or something
tight kelp
is it me or do you tend to overreact to people's answers? xD
winged quiver
if you can think of another example then it is probably a theme of mine
(this would obviously have to be an answer outside of one of yours)
since I have had the feeling you don't like me for awhile
tight kelp
aha so it is me after all
well I don't really have a strong opinion on you, so you can rest easy from now on ^^
past jay
Is it true that the cost of living in Germany for higher education is high and not accounted for in scholarships?
tight kelp
"cost of living for higher education"? 🤔
past jay
Well I mean, the cost of living in a university in Germany
tight kelp
one doesn't live in a university. o.O
I'll preface that I don't know many details so I hope someone who knows more can fill in the blanks but, most (all?) universities in Germany are not colleges, you don't live within their bounds. Students find accommodation on their own so the cost of living depends on where the specific uni is and the accommodation each individual finds.
I think unis (maybe not all of them) offer places to stay (with limited spots, not sure how they are assigned) but I doubt that would cover a very large percentage of the students.
That said, there are resources for students even outside the university systems, like Wohngemeinschaften (WG), people who only rent to students, and refectories that offer substantial discounts for students
tight kelp
not normally. University in general is a term that refers to places where you don't stay overnight, as opposed to college
past jay
Ah, alright
Was confused about that, because I've never heard of my sister's university referred to as a college
tight kelp
but since students are not allowed to have a full-time job (not to mention that you wouldn't have the time for it anyway) I'd expect everything at least around universities to be priced accordingly. In theory you should be able to survive with a minijob, although it of course depends strictly on the city and area, and you still need to prove you have a certain financial backing before being able to study in germany (at least from outside the eu, but maybe even from within? Not sure)
university is kind of an umbrella term for organised studying facilities as well as the specific type of facility so I suppose that can generate some confusion
past jay
Well, that's the problem. The only way I'll be able to study abroad is through scholarships that lessen the overall cost of staying in an abroad country, so that my parents won't be bankrupt from trying to support my education
tight kelp
to assess the actual costs you'd have to research more specific options including where you'd like to study, and study the procedures you'd have to go through for emigration, scholarships and essentials. Whether your expected resources would suffice is something you alone can say - and there surely are tools and people around to help with these specific things, like bafög or websites or associations that help people who want to study abroad etc
also afaik there's a certain minimum amount of money one must have to prove they'd not starve to death if they immigrate in germany to study from outside the eu
past jay
Yeah, that'll be a problem D:
Well, guess I'll have to keep practising German and looking for opportunities in Germany, then. I really want to be able to study in Germany, but if that doesn't happen I'd still want to at least study in America and then go to Germany for a job
...if that's possible, that is
tight kelp
my advice is to thoroughly research the procedure you'd have to undergo to come here to study and make a clear roadmap of what you need, how hard it would be to get it, and what can you leverage to smoothen the whole thing.
when I came to germany I did all that and i still felt utterly unprepared because i didn't do it thoroughly enough, and had to learn most of the stuff on the go. No amount of effort and seriousness is wasted in this regard
past jay
Alright, I'll do that
Haven't ever researched much about German uni procedures before, so I don't really know much as of yet
tight kelp
and of course you can come here after your studies. Many do it for their master's degree or even just after they've got that elsewhere. Germany values experts and they're in high demand as far as I know. No idea where the economy will be in 5 or 10 years but for now, germany is still a growing country
past jay
Is there a high demand for computer science students?
That's one of the jobs that I'd be really willing to take up
foggy prism
I think there’s an even higher demand for computer science study places…
past jay
or maybe anything related to robotics or engineering
foggy prism
look into CSE maybe?
past jay
What do you mean?
foggy prism
I mean that CS is a really popular subject to take at schools
many people want to study it
and I mean it is super important and there’s great things to do with it but you’ll be one of many
CSE seems more niche and super interesting tho
past jay
Yeah, so I was thinking if that's becoming oversaturated in Germany now
foggy prism
and you can branch into robotics for example, too
tight kelp
I've read that despite the amount of people wanting to study cs, it would still not be enough to cover the projected need for people in the field
but yeah engineers are in demand as well from what i hear
(of course, do your own proper research before deciding anything)
past jay
Yeah I will, danke
Aber CS gefällt mir sehr :C
What's the difference between CS and CSE?
Other than the extra unknown but concerning E
compact slate
Which level of TestDaF is required to study in uni? was it the 4th?
tight kelp
probably at least 4, yes
compact slate
👍
crude thicket
hey guys i have a question about kabel deutschland
i got my auftragsbestätigung and im looking for my aktivierungscode
letter says it should be in there
but it isn't
crude thicket
Entschuldigung
faint plaza
line*
and telll them your auftragsbestätigung and that you are still waiting for the number
and that you need it immediatily
it should work
deft mountain
Hello. I have kinda a problem with school. Due to my parents' work we are moving to live in Frankfurt, Germany. I need a high school which also provides Abitur (I want to be a lawyer so suppose I need that). I finished 10th grade of Czech school this year (16yo), but AFAIK the school year in Frankfurt area has already started, while in Czech it has not... My German level should be somewhere A2-B1. But I have like totally no idea how to manage this... >,< Could anyone please help me?
hidden briar
what will happen probably: you will be put into a class at a normal Gymnasium, where you will get additional german classes. In the first year use the time to improve your german, 11th grade is the year kids from Realschulen join the Gymnasium (if they want to get the Abitur), so schools take the time to make sure everyone is on the same level.
exotic barn
Another option could be an English/international hs and getting an international baccalaureate i think
wicked lava
Hello, I'm working in the USA and i'm korean citizen. I applied approx. 40 companies in Germany because my J visa is expired in Jan, 2019. I have a engineering ph.d degree. Some of the companies are asking me if I have working permit. Do you think I can get a working permit in the Germany?
exotic barn
@sullen robin @humble kindle maybe you could help^^^
ember shoal
@wicked lava read this: https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/for-qualified-professionals/visa/who-needs-a-visa
hidden briar
also https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/faq working section
ember shoal
danke für das Link! directing
wicked lava
Thank you @ember shoal @hidden briar
ember shoal
I wanna go there too so wish you good luck!
ember shoal
right away!
wicked lava
[ko:N, en:B2, de:X]
hidden briar
there is only one area where you may be able to get a job without fluent german, IT and related. Even there thats maybe 5% of the jobs
wicked lava
Thanks for tell me the truth
do you think i'm related to IT?
mechanical engineer
I hope IT is Industrial Tech
ember shoal
IT is related to computers and information xD
tacit briar
IT = Information Technology, afaik
warped atlas
@wicked lava I've been hearing a lot in these theme of "Do you have a working permit?" Which was also a question they had asked me over the phone (and I thnk also during the in-person interview) which was kinda stupid to me, because I am (was) a student in one of the Hochschule here, and my Residence Permit is not a Working Permit whatsoever (except for Nebenjobs etc)
And the only way I can apply a Working Permit (Arbeitserlaubnis or Blaue Karte) is only when I have a working contract in hand.....
So I guess what I'm saying is, don't think too much about the work permit thing. But what you do need is most likely German fluency
Although....well, there was this one guy at my company who got hired at the same time as me, did his Master in a German Hochschule, but honestly he can probably only speak about A2-B1 level German....when I asked, he did his whole master in English, which would explain how his German skills had deteriorated (he did have B2 cert apparently)
His background and list of previous projects and papers he'd written are really impressive though, so I guess that's why they decided to hire him.
brisk lotus
Does anyone know if it's ok to change a student's visa to a working visa before finishing uni ? assuming of course I have a job contract..
sick imp
Ayy Ninja, long time no see. Yeah, @worthy leaf is thinking about moving to Zurich so I assume he has some questions. 🤔
pliant ravine
Ah ok, I’ll add him and see if I can help with anything
ember shoal
You can't have both visas at the same time. So I guess you have to renounce one to get the other.
tight kelp
I think what he means is whether he'll be able to keep studying if he switches
humble kindle
I don't know if I should ask that, but to which extend is downloading bad in Germany? I know torrent is a complete no-go, but is direct download generally ok? (I'm not interested in films, series or music, but rather books, comics and 3ds games in cia format) is it risky?
tight kelp
i don't think i've ever heard of anyone having problems with direct download
viral geyser
While a lot of people don't get a problem with the police, they violate the law nonetheless.
- Downloading a film and saving it on your computer is illegal. Streaming is not downloading hence it's not directly forbidden, but the hosters of the website violate the law.
- Downloading a copy of a game is illegal. It may be considered legal if you have an actual copy of it. Up to seven times is fine if it is for private use only. Same thing for music.
- It is harder to sue you since there are some quirks in the law but this goes into detail.
fleet pelican
Can't wait til the nsa arrests me for loaning a game to a friend 😔
tight kelp
anyone ever flew with Condor? 🤔
sick imp
An condor is an bord so I fink its sayf 2 say dat other comdorgs flewed wif comdore, chokm8 borzerkos
tight kelp
that was so painful to read
fleet pelican
^
foggy prism
It's really weird. second class in ICE is way nicer than in Swiss IC, but first class almost seems like a downgrade with the leather chairs in the compartments and no real upgrades at all in the large waggons; Swiss IC first class are amazing
hence me waiting foe the next train cause I got an almost free first class upgrade that I need to use and don't wanna waste it on an ICE (plus I need sockets I can actually plug my laptop in)
viral geyser
Mal ganz abgesehen davon, dass deutsche Züge einfach mal unpünktlich sind.
foggy prism
Im schweizer Netz sind sie okay, aber der hier hatte tatsächlich 7 min Verspätung
normalerweise hab ich die ICE Züge lieber
aber...
das ist halt schon nice
frail geyser
@viral geyser unpünktlich ja aber im großen und ganzen doch besser als das meiste was im restlichen Teil der welt angeboten wird.
viral geyser
Stimmt schon. Ändert aber nichts daran, dass es an sich leider eine schlechte Quote ist.
Ich habe nichts davon, dass es in anderen Ländern mieser ist 😄
foggy prism
besser ≠ gut :P
viral geyser
frail geyser
Naja ich bin bisjetzt zufrieden. Hatte es nur 2x das der Zug in den letzten 5 Jahren mehr als 5 min zu spät war
Aber es regen sich die Leute auf wenn der Zug 10 Sekunden zu spät ist
viral geyser
https://twitter.com/Jeff_Tichar/status/811615967952404480 und die folgenden 😄
Twitter
exotic barn
Die Deutsche Bahn kriegt so gut wie gar nichts auf die Reihe. So ziemlich jeder zweite Zug (, sei es ICE, IC oder RE,) hat bei mir immer Verspätung
frail geyser
Bei mir wie gesagt geht's. 2x insgesamt und das 1x weil sich irgend jemand vor den Zug geworfen hat
foggy prism
die SBB scheint irgendwie nur zwei modi zu kennen: hochpünktlich (und wenn’s mal ne minute verspätet ist warten die anschlüsse, so dass es keine rolle spielt) oder totalausfall
viral geyser
Wir hatten mal zweieinhalb Stunden Verspätung bei einer CityNight Line.
foggy prism
einmal hat sich jemand auf der IC-Strecke beim Zürichsee vor nen Zug geworfen. so mittem im aktivsten Teil vom ostschweizer Zugnetz
war zuerst gar nicht sicher, ob ich überhaupt nach Hause kommen kann
ging dann schon, über eine Kette von S-Bahnen
der IC selber ist über St. Gallen ausgewichen, das ist n 2-Stunden-Umweg
und ich hatte natürlich meine Jacke da drin (bin rasant ausgestiegen, als sie angekündigt hatten, wo der Zug durchfahren wird)
durft dann also trotzdem noch ne Stunde am Bahnhof warten um die Jacke wieder zu holen
dense oriole
Is "ach du lieber" something said in Germany and such? My Oma is Pennsylvania German and she says "Ach du lieber" a lot.
I just wanna know how common it is to say
foggy prism
I mean it certainly exists but it reminds me of grandmothers
so I don’t think you should go around saying that
dense oriole
It's a silly little thing my grandma says
Also, since I have a server in Germany, and will be reselling it, I'll have to apply a 19% VAT tax to all customers?
viral geyser
Guess so.
solemn bay
I wasn't sure which channel this fits best in but I figured here is good: Does anyone have any interesting resources about food and related culture in Germany? Any kind of information would be cool! Especially stuff for learners or educational stuff. It's for the purpose of teaching people the "food" theme in a German language class. 😄
hidden briar
Mettbrötchen! 😃
viral geyser
Oh snap, the food culture in Germany is very regional due to the cultural history of Germany dating back to the Medieval Age.
In fact, this is so various that I've never eaten Weißwurst in northern Germany whereas Grünkohl seems to be a northern thing. Especially when in East Frisia "Kohlfahrten" exist.
foggy prism
There’s a joke there
viral geyser
That was in fact the typo I meant 😄
foggy prism
oh
viral geyser
Kohlfahrten exist.
foggy prism
I mean I don’t know what sorta things exist in east frisia
I didn’t even know east frisia existed
viral geyser
😄
foggy prism
and you couldn’t tell whether I typo’d our local foodstuffs either
cause they have either swiss german or romansh names
viral geyser
foggy prism
(the ones with romansh names are all glorious)
viral geyser
Usually combined with Boßeln like the article states.
foggy prism
never heard of that
viral geyser
That's why I said that the food culture in the German language region is fairly divided and diverse.
foggy prism
regardless this is the best food there is https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capuns
viral geyser
Until I moved to Hesse I didn't even realize that Grünkohl was a regional dish.
foggy prism
note: there are no good photos of capuns anywhere online
viral geyser
😄
foggy prism
it’s not a good-looking food and most photos show them in some over-prettified restaurant setting
this is not how they look in reality, you just have an entire tray full of them
without fancy stuff
you can basically not get it in any reasonable fashion in restaurants
it’s considered a speciality so it’s usually overpriced af
(it also takes quite a while to prepare, though the ingredients are cheap)
but it’s so good
viral geyser
Thüringer Bratwurst crosses my mind.
Or the entire Ruhrgebiet with Pommes and Currywurst.
Wiener Schnitzel.
foggy prism
oh actually come to think of it, Capuns is only the second best local food
viral geyser
Wiener Schnitzel and Thüringer Bratwurst can only be called so if theyre actually produced in this very region.
foggy prism
there’s Bündner Gerstensuppe
viral geyser
If not, it's a violation of European law.
foggy prism
(thick here not as in the liquid is thick but just like… lots of material in it)
it’s like, really nothing special
but it’s the best soup
I worked at a nursing home for a while and there was always a list of things the people there could order for dinner, right? and one was a soup of the week
every time barley soup came up you had a week of “basically everyone just ordered soup”
viral geyser
😄
ember shoal
One word... Kartoffelpuffer
slate phoenix
potato..... something
hardy wren
potato puffer
gaunt flare
*potato fritter (?)
hardy wren
🤷
gaunt flare
potato puffer gives weird results in google
But tbh I do not like Kartoffelpuffer :x But many germans I know do like them.
hardy wren
i like them if theyre well made
viral geyser
potato fritter, potato pancake or latke are possible translations.
tight kelp
It's like... potato paste
It's delicious if it has enough onions in it and is fried till it's slightly brown
exotic barn
hash browns?
humble bough
woo more questions about trying to find housing -- person I'm subletting from is asking this:
bis wann brauchst du die wohnungsgeberbestätigung
I'm not really sure what it means by "bis wann" -- do these forms have a certain time period listed on them? do any of the german natives know what she's asking
foggy prism
you’re being asked about the deadline of requring the confirmation
also does this mean you got a place?
(only temporary? was subletting when they go away for a few months and rent out their room,, or when they rent the whole apt and rent out the rooms they don’t need and collect a share of the rent from you?)
@humble bough
(also yea, berserkr is right it could technically also be asking for a time period)
humble bough
uh it's either sascha but in this case the former
humble bough
I'm just renting their room for september and october and they were like "here's the place to transfer rent" and I was like "uhhhh can I have paperwork and also assurance that the apartment really exists and you're not scamming me" and the answer seemed to be yes so I tentatively have a temporary accomodation
that wonungsgeberbestätigung is what I really need anyway, I'll sleep in a hostel for two years for all I care as long as I can get that
foggy prism
ye you need a contract don’t send any money until you have a contract signed :P
humble bough
I'm a lawyer's child I know that much 😅
foggy prism
who knows maybe murica is weird
I mean you blindly give waitstaff your credit cards
from what I hear
humble bough
I mean I think even if I didn't sign a contract I could still sue her if she ran off with my money at this point in America, it'd just be not as strong a case
foggy prism
ye I mean oral contracts are a thing
humble bough
yeah we do that but like credit cards have credit protection on them
and like a waitress would get her ass so fired if she did false charges
foggy prism
I’d be more scared of them writing down the numbers and then making tiny purchases that no one would notice
humble bough
I mean that's why you keep a close eye on your statement my man
but in practice I don't think restaurants do that p much ever
would be bad for business in addition to massively illegal
foggy prism
kinda hard when half the things you buy just get registered as like “AMAZON.DE” and I’m like “yea I bought something there recently”
humble bough
you're way more likely to get your card number stolen online or smth
foggy prism
(example, I dunno what amazon shows up as)
humble bough
bruh you can check your orders on amazon and compare amounts, I've done that before
humble bough
(because my family uses my prime account and I wanna make sure no one "accidentally" uses my card)
stable talon
Als Student an einer deutschen Universität, ich darf jetzt irgendwie eine gesetzliche Krankenversicherung verwenden... Glaube ich... Aber ich verstehe gar nicht wie das Ganze überhaupt funktioniert
Bis jetzt habe ich Reiseversicherung verwendet. Hansemerkur bietet "Young Travel" für 33€ die Monat an. Das kann ich ja leisten. Aber vielmehr nicht. Ich habe jetzt ein bisschen nachgeforscht und die erste Ergebnisse, die ich gefunden habe, HKK zum Beispiel, kosten ungefähr 60€ die Monat, was ich schon zu viel finde
Hat Irgendjemand eine Ahnung wie ich fortgehen soll?
stable talon
Nevermind. Beratung ist bei der Einschreibung für Kursen
whole pecan
Was ist in Chemnitz passiert?
tight kelp
whole pecan
Oh
tight kelp
kurzgesagt wollen Nazis zur Selbsthilfe greifen, weil ein nicht-Weißer (angeblich) einen Weißen abgestochen hat
viral geyser
Hier ist noch eine englische Quelle: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/27/europe/germany-chemnitz-violence-intl/index.html
Sadly this article just covers the happenings from Sunday, not from yesterday.
jagged charm
the world is a scary place 😬
rain panther
And cnn is a bad source
whole pecan
Was ist „Gasse“ und „Wall“ auf English?
Ich weiß, dass es Typ Straße sind, aber was ist das englisches äquivalent?
iron spindle
an alleyway
whole pecan
Which is alleyway?
viral geyser
Why is CNN a bad source? @rain panther
tacit briar
This article in CNN seems to be on par with the German sources I've read.
viral geyser
@whole pecan "Gasse" is "alleyway", "Wall" is a "causeway" or a part of a fort, depending on context.
foggy prism
Gasse is like a small street in a city, often only for pedestrians, or if cars are allowed then one-way only.
Wall I have never heard of
Strasse is just about any asphalt road
Weg is a footpath, e.g. thorugh the forest
Allee is a wide fancy road
Hauptstrasse (main road) is an important road on which cars have priority over side streets and may be allowed to drive faster than usual
Autobahn is a highway
and I dunno if germany has those but we also have Autostrasse, which is like a major out-of-town road which is faster than a regular road and often multi-lane but usually without lane separation and a lower speedlimit than Autobahn (in switzerland 100 for Autostrasse, 120 for Autobahn; 80 for regular roads outside of towns)
btw, while Allee exists, most of the time I’d use strasse anyway
I might refer to it by its name tho, rather than just call it Strasse
tacit briar
@foggy prism It seems to me that the German equivalent of Autostrasse would be "Landstraße" (apparently officially called Außerortsstraße: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Außerortsstraße)
foggy prism
switzerland has four general limits
Innerorts (50)
Ausserorts (80)
Autostrasse (100)
Autobahn (120)
- then there are ofc lower speed limit zones, e.g. my entire village is a 30-Zone
wikipedia doesn’t have a nice list for germany :/
tacit briar
I'm aware of only two general limits for Germany (and I did my license here):
- 50 in the cities
- 100 outside the cities (excluding the Autobahnen, which have no general limit)
foggy prism
but it looks like there’s just 50 in towns, 100 outside, and autobahn is either 130 or no limit
tacit briar
130 is a "suggested" speed on an Autobahn. It's generally ignored
tacit briar
yes, but these are not "general limits", there're signs there
actually, about 50% of the highways have such limits, but it's still not a "general limit"
crimson yew
Hi everyone, I am just wondering is anyone studying in Ruhr bochum university?
sullen robin
no, but I work beside it, maybe I could help
viral geyser
My fiancée is going to in October.
crimson yew
I send a application to the university for my bachelor degree and I get a document that writes my application is accepted. But, there is a mistake with my surname. It's not correct. Could it be a problem for visa?
sullen robin
probably, email them and tell them
exotic barn
just write them an email explaining that?
crimson yew
I send them a e-mail but they didn't answer me yet.
sullen robin
not much else you can do
take proof that you received the email just in case
so you can explain in visa application if need be
sullen robin
you could msg their administration too
exotic barn
(msged a uni too, said theyre away till 4.9. rip)
sullen robin
how bad is the spelling mistake?
exotic barn
try emailing them again or try a different person
crimson yew
ok. Thank you all
viral geyser
Just can underline this what the others said. The surname is important - not only for the visa but also for the recognition of your degree in the future (same case for Germans).
exotic barn
there might be a contact on your acceptance letter of the person who took care of your application btw
exotic barn
@crimson yew i think its up to 3 different letters, like Shmidt and Schmidt shouldn't be a problem
ask tho
tight kelp
Germans always do this 😩
jagged charm
i think they can probably change the surname at any point so it probably isn't urgent yet
tight kelp
they spell my name with an extra R all the time even when I sign stuff very clearly in multiple places xd
viral geyser
@jagged charm It actually is. Right at the start when I went at university we were stressed to check it every time.
brisk lotus
What's up in Chemnitz ? that doesn't look good
foggy prism
germany has forgotten that they should probably not tolerate nazis
is what I’m getting from it
everyone is too busy arguing whether the protersters are leftist or rightist extremists to notice that it doesn’t fucking matter
at least that’s what I’m getting from /r/de
which is my primary source of information on germany
brisk lotus
Any kind of extremism is bad
foggy prism
I’m honestly quite shocked that any sort of nazism would be allowed to flourish in germany of all places
kinda makes those generations of “guilt” literature seem a bit less … sincere
(ofc those were written by different people etc)
brisk lotus
true
foggy prism
(but still)
brisk lotus
I mean I do get some of the frustration, but the way they're handling now is just wrong
foggy prism
and here I was hoping that the fourth reich was just gonna be the EU, formed through peaceful contracts and supportive economic … support
would’ve been a nice change of pace ya know?
but I’m not well-informed
it’s far away and I can’t exactly affect it
brisk lotus
I still don't really understand the requests of those protesting now
Do they want all immigrants thrown into the sea or do they actually have a real solution ?
foggy prism
did the nazis have any real solutions for whatever threats they perceived minorities threatened?
…I guess they did but you know. ones that don’t result in genocide
brisk lotus
lol
well I hope people aren't as dumb nowadays
or at least they've learned a thing or two from the past
tight kelp
wofür steht hier "grau"? 🤔
viral geyser
@tight kelp Chemnitz ist eine eher graue, sprich "triste" Stadt, was an den Gebäuden liegt.
Hier also "grau" im Sinne von "eintönig", "monokulturell", "nicht vielfältig", "langweilig".
tight kelp
achso, danke
foggy prism
ich würde gerne anmerken, dass das plakat, was da hochgehalten wird (im thumbnail) von ner wahlkampagne der Schweizer Volkspartei kommt. War irgend ne Kampagne von wegen Ausländer die Gesetze brechen sofort ausschaffen anstatt ins Gefängnis werfen
(es stand nicht "ausländer raus" auf den Wahlplakaten, hätte es aber grad so gut können)
viral geyser
Ah, ja, das kenne ich.
Trotzdem wurde so etwas, "Ausländer raus", auf der Demo toleriert.
foggy prism
jep
ich mag es einfach nicht, wie überall von rechts gegen links gesprochen wird. es gibt ja auch rechte, die einfach den Kapitalismus mögen, aber nichts gegen Ausländer und so haben
das ist doch Konservativ gegen Liberal, wenn schon, nicht?
rechts-links ist ja grundsätzlich einfach mal das Spektrum zwischen Kapitalismus und Kommunismus
viral geyser
Ja, das wird auch im Kommentar so unterschieden. Aber wer mit Nazis läuft, fällt aus dem demokratischen Rahmen raus.
karmic yew
ehrlich zu sein, dieses sind zwei andere Achse
und es gibt, theoretisch, viel pro-Ausländer wirtschaftlich Recht
foggy prism
es gibt halt schon ne korellation, zumindest bei uns sind die grössten zwei Parteien rechtskonservativ (die SVP, die mit den Schafen) und linksliberal (die SP, entspricht etwa der deutschen äh... SPD glaub ich)
ich hab auch irgendwie grundsätzlich was gegen rechts-bashing, auch wenn ich mich eher als links zugewandt sehe; gegen konservativ-bashing hab ich gar nichts :P
karmic yew
in wirklichkeit, pro-Geschäft wirtschaftlich-recht hat, durch politischen Grunden, oft mit social-recht (mit)gelaüfen
und ich glaube, mein Deutsch ist nicht gut genug für dieses Thema ＞_＜
aber, hm, ich kenne viel sozial-linke wirtschaft-rechte leute, also es ist möglich
....
aber
die politische wirtschaft-rechte gleich die akademische wirtschaft-rechte ganz nicht
viral geyser
It's really a little bit difficult to follow your ideas on this point ^^;
karmic yew
yyes i know sorry
viral geyser
No need to apologize 😄
tight kelp
Cannelloni alla Bolognese by Penny
hergestellt in Frankreich
kill me pls
hidden briar
besser oder schlechter als "nach italienischem Rezept, hergestellt in Deutschland"?
tight kelp
hmmm
naja, es gibt schon genuge italienische Immigranten, also das zweite wäre statistisch gesehen nicht schlechter
foggy prism
“hergestellt in china, abgepackt in deutschland”
sullen robin
Was für Folgen hat "vom Verfassungsschutz beobachtet zu werden"? Ich kapiere es nicht ganz.
exotic barn
You're under surveillance by the government
sullen robin
Verfassungsschutz = government in this sense?
tight kelp
it's like, the intelligence
whole pecan
Oh
hidden briar
Die Verfassung = constitution; Der Schutz = protection
und Deutsch erklärt sich von allein 😃
foggy prism
…protection granted by the constitution!
(techncially a legit interpretation even)
(just not how it’s actually used)
sullen robin
^ That's how I understood it, but everything made it sound bad, while that interpretation sounds good
foggy prism
it’s actually the opposite
it’s basically, protection of the constitution / what is written in it
crude thicket
on db whats the difference between super sparpreis and sparpreis
you can refund one?
fleet pelican
yeah you should be fucking sorry 😤
tacit briar
Some people don't like my direct harsh opinions 😂 even in this very server I already had small troubles because of that 😅
civic sphinx
Ah no its ok haha
fleet pelican
please, I doubt most of the mods have a problem
tacit briar
Not mods, other users didn't really like it
I'm bad at deciding when it's appropriate to say something like that and when not
But I don't think it's a discussion for this channel 😉
exotic barn
@tacit briar Sparpreis is bound to specific trains and includes a city ticket (free travel in your destination city as long as you either come from your destination after arriving or you're going towards your departure station iirc). The Supersparpreis doesn't have a city ticket, that's the only difference I know of
tacit briar
Can't they have more useful names for these things? I think I should write a tirade on r/de about that... 🙄
fleet pelican
I feel that way about most german things
exotic barn
They provide detailed descriptions of these conditions while ordering the ticket. Source: ordered one yesterday
fleet pelican
I cant read german in ig paragraphs they should fix that :///
tacit briar
BTW, you should mention @crude thicket, since they're the one who asked the question