#general-2

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radiant matrix
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nach der substitution darf es keine x mehr haben

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die musst du alle irgendwie zu u’s kriegen oder kürzen können

shell arch
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hmm ok 🤔

radiant matrix
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weil du bist jetzt sozusagen im u-universum

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da kennt man x nicht

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wenn da du steht, dann muss im Integral selber auch alles u sein

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sonst macht der Ausdruck keinen Sinn

shell arch
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hm

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der mathebibel typ hat immer sein u nach x aufgelöst :c

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deswegen bin ich jetzt bisschen verwirrt 😄

radiant matrix
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hm ja er geht anders vor, das ganze kommt zwar aufs gleiche raus ist aber meiner meinung nach schlussendlich verwirrender

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ich hab das noch nie so erklärt gesehen

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aber egal wie du vorgehst, am schluss mustt du einfach formeln für deinen dummen ausdruck, und für dx haben

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damit du die einsetzen kannst

shell arch
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ok das heisst, wenn ich x^2 = u habe

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leite ich ab -> 2x = du ?

radiant matrix
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2x = du/dx

shell arch
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oh

radiant matrix
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du leitest auf beiden seiten nach x ab

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wenn du’s so ansehen willst

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also d(x²)/dx = du/dx

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und das links ist halt 2x

shell arch
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ok aber wie kann ich das dann effizient auf dx auflösen? 🤔 dann hätte ich ja du/2x 🤔

radiant matrix
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ja

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genau

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das willst du

shell arch
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oh

radiant matrix
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glaub’s mir

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jetzt das ganze einsetzen

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und ein Wunder wird geschehen

shell arch
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ich hab jetzt x*cos(du/2x)du dort stehen 🤔

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das sieht sehr weird aus lol

radiant matrix
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das sollte nicht passieren nein

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in der klammer hast du doch x² stehen

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was ist x²?

shell arch
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ja genau

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na quadriertes x

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also nicht x

radiant matrix
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ja aber was sonst noch?

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wir haben dem nen namen gegeben

shell arch
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u

radiant matrix
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genau

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also sollte in der klammer dann u stehen

shell arch
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und statt x dann du/2x?

radiant matrix
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und das dx ausserhalb ersetzt du mit…?

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ne das x lass mal stehen

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siehst gleich, was damit passiert

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dx = ?

shell arch
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du/2x

radiant matrix
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so wie sieht dein integral jetzt aus?

shell arch
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also xcos(u)* du/2x 🤔

radiant matrix
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ja, aber da kann man noch was tun

shell arch
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hmmm

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cos(u) * du/x ? 🤔

radiant matrix
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nichts mehr ersetzen, reine algebra

shell arch
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sieht falsch aus

radiant matrix
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ne

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sieht falsch aus weil’s ist :P

shell arch
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ich kann kein rechnen lol das wird problematisch 😂

radiant matrix
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was ist denn x/2x?

shell arch
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1/2 x?

radiant matrix
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ja nicht ganz

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das ist 1/2

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kürzen

shell arch
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oh

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1/2 👀

radiant matrix
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und jetzt solltest du das integral von 0.5 cos(u) du haben

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was du lösen können solltest

shell arch
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ok also dann ist es 0.5 sin(x^2) + c

radiant matrix
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(vor dem kürzen)

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versuch vielleicht nochmal was ähnliches. was wäre denn, wenn in der klammer anstatt x² jetzt x² + 1 stünde?

shell arch
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naja dann ist u = x^2 + 1

radiant matrix
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stimmt zwar, aber immer ist’s nicht so einfach :P

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aber ja, das wäre wohl ein guter erster versuch

shell arch
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oh ich hätte jetzt einfach immer den term beim cos genommen 👀

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ausser der ist x

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aber dann kommt ja wieder 2x raus maluConfused

radiant matrix
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ja

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ist doch schön

fossil nova
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was passiert, wenn x kommt nicht raus?

radiant matrix
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wie meinst du?

shell arch
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👀 also hat x^2 + 1 die gleiche lösung wie einfach nur x^2 👀

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also fast

fossil nova
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muessen wir dann partielle Integration nutzen?

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Also

radiant matrix
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ich weiss nicht, was du meinst kartoffel

fossil nova
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wenn das Integral 'x^2 cos x^2' waere

radiant matrix
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es ist sehr gut möglich, dass das einfach unlösbar ist

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z.b. das integral von cos(x²) ist nicht lösbar

fossil nova
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Ja macht Sinn

radiant matrix
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ja das mit x² auch nicht

fossil nova
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Okay

radiant matrix
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oder auch das schönste Integral von allen

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e^x²

fossil nova
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Ja genau

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Ich wollte das sagen haha

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Hmm

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Ich weiss den deutschen Begriff nicht :/

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hmm

radiant matrix
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das Gaussche Integral?

fossil nova
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Ja

radiant matrix
fossil nova
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auch 'error function'

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Oh

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Fehlerintegral haha

radiant matrix
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ja das meinte ich

fossil nova
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Das hast du schon geschickt lol

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Danke

radiant matrix
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e^-x²

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aber dafür braucht man noch einige tools mehr

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als nur normale 1D substitution

fossil nova
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hmm okay

shell arch
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solange ich meine klausur bestehe ist mir das recht 😄

radiant matrix
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ja das musst du nicht können :P

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ist mehr oder weniger ein schöner rechentrick

fossil nova
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Ich muss meine Infinitesimalrechung- und Deutschkenntnisse verbessern, um alles zu begreifen :/

shell arch
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zum glück 😄 ich muss schon andere doofe sachen können

radiant matrix
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am besten einfach n paar probleme finden und lösen

shell arch
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ja

radiant matrix
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und nicht vergessen, wenn du grenzen hast musst du die anpassen

shell arch
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ok

sour mesa
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I saw the integrl of e^-x^2

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Isn't that one non-elementary

fossil nova
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ja das denk ich schon

sour mesa
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jep

radiant matrix
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the integral itself is

sour mesa
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(√π*erf(x)/2)+C

radiant matrix
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but you can compute its value from -∞ to +∞

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which is the pretty calculating trick :P

sour mesa
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oh lol I see

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I almost said it

radiant matrix
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it’s actually a super nice calculation

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you make the problem twice as hard

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do some funky substitions in 2D

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then in the end you take the root :P

shell arch
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danke sascha GWofxLove das hat definitiv geholfen 😃

radiant matrix
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and boom √π

sour mesa
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Isn't pi just beautiful

radiant matrix
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yea it’s half the true circle constant!

sour mesa
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You have such a random integral and boom

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sqrt(pi)

fossil nova
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what do you mean by 2D?

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like in this context Sascha?

radiant matrix
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I mean you need to use polar coordinates

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to evaluate it you multiply the whole thing with another version of itself, but with y as the variable

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so you're in 2D territory

fossil nova
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hmm

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OH

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like two dimensional calculus

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got you

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I was just confused because I thought it was already 2 dimensional for some reason

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I was just being dumb

sturdy shadow
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Also this

unkempt flower
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BRB DYING

regal lantern
sturdy shadow
regal lantern
ocean robin
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oh kewt

regal lantern
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How slow do you type arrem?

ocean robin
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He's writing a novel. Shh.

keen snow
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wow

sudden panther
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Right. So. It's not an actual exercise. More of a thinking exercise just for fun, since you probably haven't done these before. You prooobably won't be able to solve it on your own, at least not right away, so I'll guide you every step of the way, but let you do the actual thinking. And we'll see if you can get it.

Find the value of p which makes px^2 + 4x + 1 a perfect square for every integer x.

Example: px^2 + 12x + 4. If we say p = 9, then we get 9x^2 + 12x + 4. Which is a perfect square for x = 1 (you get 25), for x = 2 (you get 64), for x = 3 (you get 121), and for every other integer as well. Notice that all the bolded results are squares of integers. That's what we're doing in our problem.

Daniel took a little less than an hour to get it. mmlol

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We'll start off by asking you if you have an idea of what we're trying to achieve? 😅

fossil nova
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K I'll do it when I get home

sudden panther
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lmao

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It's meant for Flops, but everyone else who thinks it might be a challenge for them is welcome to give it a shot and PM me.

hot cloak
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Oh dang

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Sorry, I didn’t see the msg

fossil nova
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Lol I'm younger than flops but it should be fine lmao

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Looks easy

hot cloak
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How old are you? 👀

sudden panther
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34

opal sequoia
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You're younger? 🤔

pine ginkgo
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oh god

fossil nova
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Wait no

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I'm probably not younger then

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How old is he lmao

pine ginkgo
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oh good god

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lol

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this just keeps getting better

keen snow
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15

opal sequoia
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He is 15.

pine ginkgo
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please continue

fossil nova
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OH

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Ok im 16

keen snow
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He is very young

fossil nova
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Lol

hot cloak
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He is the youngest of our group i think

fossil nova
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Yh

opal sequoia
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The youngest not to get banned, yeah.

fossil nova
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Maybe I'm second youngest

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Hmmv

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But you wouldn't have know that right?

hot cloak
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Who got banned?

keen snow
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No one

quasi merlin
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Everyone

fossil nova
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Oh

keen snow
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Oh right.

hot cloak
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How do you know you’re the second youngest?

keen snow
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Everyone.

fossil nova
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I just assume

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Lol

quasi merlin
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Did you just assume other people's age

opal sequoia
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Well Jakob was younger than Flappy for example, right?

pine ginkgo
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mom is younger too

fossil nova
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Oh ok

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Fairs

keen snow
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DiD yOu JuSt AsSuMe My GeNdEr

opal sequoia
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Mum is younger? I see.

sudden panther
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The youngest not to get banned, yeah.
I miss hellobad. 😦

quasi merlin
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Duschlampe

opal sequoia
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And anyone younger than 13 is not allowed. 😄

sudden panther
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gurkschn bidde

keen snow
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But I am 10.

opal sequoia
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Banned.

pine ginkgo
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i don't believe you

keen snow
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O o f

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Luna you need to have faith.

sudden panther
quasi merlin
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RIP in pieces

keen snow
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Excuse me

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this is racist

sudden panther
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Guys.

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I think Flops changed her mind about missing math. mmlol

quasi merlin
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Yes, Daniel?

keen snow
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Changed her mind?

quasi merlin
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*his

keen snow
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It never changed

whole rapids
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@sudden panther his mind

keen snow
quasi merlin
sudden panther
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evaryone on a internet is grill

keen snow
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No

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youre not a girl

sudden panther
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see

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im best dad girl

whole rapids
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Where is your proof and evidence that is true and correct

quasi merlin
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Please show us your girl certificate

keen snow
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Do you want proof mika?

pine ginkgo
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i can show you mine

quasi merlin
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From Arrem, yes

keen snow
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Im sending proof now

quasi merlin
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AnA is a girl

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I'm convinced

sudden panther
keen snow
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that is sexist

fossil nova
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Why is below 13 banned?

sudden panther
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Discord ToS.

fossil nova
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I guess just as a rule lol

keen snow
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cause it is against ToS

quasi merlin
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Discord ToS

fossil nova
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Oh fairs

queen temple
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what did i just walk into

keen snow
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dis dik boi

queen temple
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ya know what, nvm.

sudden panther
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sangu do u want grill certificot

queen temple
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i hav one already

sudden panther
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rly

queen temple
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ye

sudden panther
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ok cary on

keen snow
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dude i met him irl

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he is a girl

hot cloak
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What if he’s a trap?

keen snow
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he isnt

hot cloak
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Did you check?

keen snow
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yes he wore a skirt

queen temple
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^

hot cloak
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Who are we talking about btw?

keen snow
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sanuine

hot cloak
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Skots also wear skirts mmlol

keen snow
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sure but i lifted up the skirt

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and checked

hot cloak
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Ohhhhh

quasi merlin
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Did you touch

hot cloak
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Kinky

queen temple
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wait, i'll get my license

keen snow
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i did touch

sudden panther
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was it squishy

hot cloak
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what did you touch?

keen snow
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it was rock hard

quasi merlin
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Let's stop

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:D

keen snow
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his thighs

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he works out well

queen temple
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:d

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i found my license

keen snow
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i mean he is a girl, he has nothing down there

queen temple
hot cloak
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does he really work out?

keen snow
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yknow what ken dolls looked like?

hot cloak
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no

keen snow
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that is what sanu looks like

queen temple
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That's very accurate. Ana knows me very well.

hot cloak
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you look very orange

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a true lvl A

queen temple
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i try

sudden panther
regal lantern
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wow sangu is trump confirmed

queen temple
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100% unsarcastically, I hate this, please delete it...

keen snow
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no

sudden panther
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😦

queen temple
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Sorry, I was trying to play the part of a thin skinned politician, I think I nailed it 😛

sudden panther
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oooo

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sangu got us good

queen temple
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I don't think I took it far enough

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I didn't threaten to sue you or call you "very mean"

keen snow
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you just need to take out a small loan of 1 million dollars

queen temple
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to what? Bolster that 10 mil I inherited from daddy?

ocean robin
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what happened while the connection was gone TT

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Anyway, @sudden panther nope I don't have any idea of what we should do. WiFi stopped right after I wanted to send the message and came back a few mins ago. sadlol

mild cosmos
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If you call me names I'll sanction your country

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But I'll make sure that my businesses won't be impacted

whole rapids
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@mild cosmos you have tiny feet

mild cosmos
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I'm going to make so much money off of that insult, just you wait!

small sundial
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How is Ich pronounced? Is it like "Ick" or "Itch"

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O wrong chat lol

unkempt flower
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Rip general

arctic atlas
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go to #german-only 👀

cobalt lake
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Why, what happened to general?

unkempt flower
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Nothing really, just got overwhelmed

keen snow
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Yeah

cobalt lake
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It's because of anime, isn't it

keen snow
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yes

exotic mesa
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hows everyone here?

keen snow
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Good, you?

exotic mesa
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yeah good, gonna head to cleaning now boooooo dies under a pile of dishes

pine ginkgo
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@keen snow squish

obsidian cipher
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watching anime for the plot

mossy igloo
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Always

mellow mist
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@sly sinew hop over let’s keep learning channel for learning

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How many languages do you study at once? XD

sly sinew
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Yes! Good call

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German, Spanish & Japanese 😊 Spanish I know fairly well, it's my mother tongue but I'm extremely out of practice having lived in Sweden my entire life. Moving to Germany this October. And my in-laws are Japanese, so... :)

cobalt lake
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That's pretty cool

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It's always nice seeing people learning multiple languages

mellow mist
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Oh wow, sounds really neat. Looks like you’re way past the phase of thinking “Should I learn this while learning this” which looks quite promising hahah

cobalt lake
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I'm at that phase at the moment by the way

mellow mist
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I can’t help but mention the Mind Control Tech on the avatar. Hearthstone or Wow? XD

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@cobalt lake With which languages? 🤔

cobalt lake
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Well, lessee

sly sinew
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Hahaha 😉 Grew up with WoW (How do you do the strike through)

cobalt lake
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I know Portuguese and English, currently learning German

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Then I also got interested in Polish

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And then Spanish, cause it should be easy to learn

mellow mist
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You put double ~~ in between the text

cobalt lake
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And now I'm also interested in Italian and Japanese

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So yeah I'm pretty lost at this point

sly sinew
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Learning multiple languages at the same time isn't useful unless you have the means to practice them and use them both and/or all.

cobalt lake
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Yeah makes sense, but would the internet be enough?

mellow mist
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I doubt the only usage of internet even on a single language tbh

sly sinew
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I think it could be, yes! If you make sure to actively use each

keen snow
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I speak to myself sometimes to practise.

cobalt lake
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I tried to start learning Polish a few months ago, but then quickly forgot to keep practicing once I started focusing on German again

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So I guess I can't do two at once

mellow mist
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One small question, what’s the ultimate goal of learning these languages?

cobalt lake
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You mean mine?

mellow mist
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Yeah @cobalt lake

cobalt lake
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It's purely out of interest

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Learning languages is something I love doing

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Also they could be useful someday

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Maybe

sly sinew
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So long as you make sure to stay active, regular and consistent I think it's fine to have multiple languages at once. For me it's made easier by having some natural context for each language, but the main thing is to stay active 😊

mellow mist
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Don’t wanna get out of my boundaries but how about trying to grind one down, get it to something like B1 or B2 and then pickup another? I have the tendency to feel that learning more than one at once could slow the whole process

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Otherwise be as consistent as @sly sinew XD

keen snow
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When people learn several languages at once they also tend to get mixed up.

cobalt lake
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Yeah, like

mellow mist
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@keen snow I agree

cobalt lake
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When I decided to learn Polish, I thought it would be okay because I was already used to the basics of German and wouldn't mix them up

sly sinew
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That said, @keen snow. I also think the more languages I learn the easier I have to learn even more

cobalt lake
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So I wouldn't start two at the exact same time

keen snow
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Sure yeah.

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But starting 2 languages at the same time isn't really easy.

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Having one above B1, and then starting another is fine.

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Knowing several languages is good for learning, but languages like Polish are super difficult for English natives.

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Well, a lot of natives.

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I feel like it takes more dedication and time.

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And would be hard to split up.

cobalt lake
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I like the challenge

keen snow
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Yeah, that is fine.

cobalt lake
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But anyway, I've decided to wait until my german is almost fluent or something

keen snow
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But focusing on something one at a time, at least until one is well practised, is good.

cobalt lake
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should be better that way

mellow mist
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Definitely

keen snow
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But you can learn however you want haha.

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It also depends on your spare time.

sly sinew
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Yes! That's a fair point 😊 It's hard to dilute your brain with multiple languages at once. If you're comfortable with one you can easily maintain that level by using it actively, but it's far more difficult to learn multiple languages from scratch at the same time

mellow mist
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In the end we don’t know you and we’re throwing out our own ideas which are influenced mostly by how our learning process goes, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

keen snow
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Yeah haha.

cobalt lake
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Sometimes I think maybe I should be less ambitious though

mellow mist
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You gotta consider burning out, friend

cobalt lake
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I might not even have the time to learn all of that

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Like, in my lifetime

mellow mist
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Imma try pretending to be asleep till I really fall asleep. If not, I’ll see ya all in a bit 👀

cobalt lake
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Speaking of which, I should've gone to sleep 20 minutes ago

keen snow
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Later eyes

cobalt lake
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So I'll try doing the same

keen snow
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Night knots

cobalt lake
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See ya

sly sinew
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Nighty nighty, you two!

hot cloak
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hi

regal lantern
nocturne frost
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LMFAO

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POTATO BOY

pine ginkgo
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is callum hidden there

nocturne frost
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He's not hiding that's him there

pine ginkgo
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oh, how could i not see

regal lantern
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oreally? bet you can't point me out hecke

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bet you think we all look the same eh?

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fucking potatoist.

fossil nova
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uhh

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we don't look the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

hot cloak
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Yeah, you’re more... radiant

regal lantern
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🤔

fossil nova
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thank you suzu xx

shell arch
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@sudden panther i heard you're a maths pro 👀 therefore I'm here to beg for help maluFeels

hot cloak
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My pun went unnoticed sadlol

shell arch
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indeed

regal lantern
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i noticed it with the 🤔 sadlol

hot cloak
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🤔 is a pretty universal emoji tho mmlol

shell arch
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where's the potato lunerd when you need him :c

hot cloak
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Just ping him

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He’s always here

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Lurking in the shadows

shell arch
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@pine ginkgo i heard you're lurking 👀

sudden panther
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Sup swaglord?

pine ginkgo
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hello

shell arch
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I need helps :C

sudden panther
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Least squares. Looks like statistics memes.

shell arch
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i have no idea what i'm supposed to do with this information 😂

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I spent 1h on google trying to find help

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but I only end up on phsyics pages and it made everything a lot more confusing tbh :c

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so if there's a math god in here who's smartig enough to explain, i'd be glad (otherwise I will ignore this and hope he won't ask it)

radiant matrix
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oh gott ausgleichsrechnung

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I technically understand it but not good enough to explain anything

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I only know a few algorithms to implement it in numpy :P

hot cloak
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Mei Vatter is an Appenzeller

pine ginkgo
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the stuff you do is really all over the place it's so weird cady

sudden panther
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Wot Looners says. We never really covered it in class and I even had a statistics one. There they're just describing how it works and deriving the stuff. Maybe give us more or show us an actual problem. 🤔

shell arch
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I'm not even a maths student maluFeels

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What should I do aaaaargh

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Hm tbh arrem he only has 2-3 slides with this

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Then he changes to gauss

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And I'm like

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How does he come from this to gauss

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🤔

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Should I maybe ignore it and focus on other things? 🤔

sudden panther
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Well there's really not much you can do with that lmao. He takes a formula to define what he means by least squares, and then like you usually do when you look for values where a function takes on the minimal value, he derives it, with respect to both a and b here, since he's dealing with more than one variable. Then, having the two partial derivatives, he sets both equal to 0 to look for that minimum point and just rewrites it to get the sys of equations on the second slide. It's literally just deriving the two equations, not much you can do or understand there, just pure silly calculations.

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I'd have to see what you mean by Gauss, since I don't really have experience with the topic and Gauss did a whole lot of stuff. 😅

shell arch
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Uhm the elimination matrix

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I mean I get the elimination matrix. It's mostly calculations to bring it into a form you need

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I just didn't get how he comes from this topic to the matrix. But if it's like calculating the minimum of a function and do some partial derivation one time for a and then b it should be possible to at least get a few points for trying lol

pine ginkgo
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eh, probably because he had a Llineares Gleichungssystem before

sudden panther
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I just didn't get how he comes from this topic to the matrix.
Show us. No clue until I see it either.

pine ginkgo
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and Gauss-Elimination can deal with LGS

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🤷

shell arch
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Das ist es

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Auf 190 bzw glaube 21 oder so

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Der springt von A nach B und verwirrt mich lol

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Gotta have to work today anyways before bothering with this again

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But still I wanted to make sure I don't mess up :<

sudden panther
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Meaning that literally nothing that follows that has anything to do with the example anymore. 😅

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That was just a small example of representing an equation system with a matrix, after which he simply just moves on to explain the Gaussian elimination.

shell arch
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Lol

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So I can pbb just ignore it and focus on more important stuff lol

radiant matrix
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that’s my stance with these things too :P

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Ausgleichsrechnung is a pain

sudden panther
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Meh, you be the judge. I'd be surprised if it was asked in any exam, since it's not strictly related to what you're doing, but the example itself isn't that memey.

ancient cloak
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what level is a "very good knowledge of German"

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WEKLCHES NEIVEAU

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IST UNE

pine ginkgo
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C

opal sequoia
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Native.

fossil nova
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yes

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D level

ancient cloak
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danke

mild cosmos
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I got my DSH Zertifikat today!

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Normally I do better on Leseverstehen than on any other part. Knapp DSH 3 aber trotzdem

opal sequoia
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Leseverstehen nur 80? Warum?

mild cosmos
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Knapp heißt so ungefähr 84%

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Ja ich habe eine Frage völlig falsch gehabt und die Hälfte von einer zweiten

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Und die waren die wichtigsten Fragen bei dem Teil

opal sequoia
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Ahh, just some silly mistake?

mild cosmos
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Sorta

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The question was something like this: "Warum verwendet der Autor "müsste" in Zeilen 34?"

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Und die Antwort sollte sowas in der Sinn lauten: "Der Autor drückt etwas Irreales aus und verwendet deswegen müsste."

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The text was about Fleischersatzprodukte made with the seeds of a particular flower whose name I've already forgotten. The author said something like this: "can these flowers be made into meat? Of course not, to do that you would somehow have to turn the flowers into beef or chicken. But what you can do is use the seeds to create Fleischersatzprodukte" which to me indicated that the Autor used müsste for rhetorical and stylistic reasons. My answer was apparently too general and vague

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They really just wanted you to say that it was an irreal idea

opal sequoia
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Ohh, I see.

lost dagger
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Congrats clockwork! Well done!

shy bobcat
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nice work @mild cosmos !

obsidian cipher
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Im sorry, 87 is merely a B, we expect mor

hot cloak
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Why is Düsseldorf the capital of Nordrhein-Westfalen when Cologne has almost twice its population?

pine ginkgo
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because things don't get decided by population alone

hot cloak
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I know, which is why I asked on which merit it did get decided

pine ginkgo
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because the british decided so

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as they had their central there

hot cloak
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Aye, but wouldn't something like that be open for change, or has its political centre now settled there? You'd think historically a city like Cologne would make more sense from a historical viewpoint

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Considering it's been one of Germany's main capitals ever since the Romans

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Also don't think I'm bashing on Düsseldorf lol. I like both equally

pine ginkgo
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eh

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changing a capital takes time and money

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and it's really unnecessary

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especially in the ruhrgebiet

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everything's so close anyway, what would changing it do

hot cloak
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idk, I was just a bit surprised to find out cologne wasn't considered the capital

pine ginkgo
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were you also surprised that bonn was germany's capital before

hot cloak
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I did not even know. I'm really only just now starting to read up on some German history

sturdy shadow
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That question may get you stabbed, friend

hot cloak
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In a way it makes sense of course, I suspect it had to do with it being completely unpractical to have the capital surrounded by reddies

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?

pine ginkgo
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lol

sturdy shadow
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It used to be Bonn

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Also: NRW has been red for decadea

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Spd used to be the biggest party here

rich hatch
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i am not sure thats the reds Brute meant

hot cloak
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Communists

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Commies

rich hatch
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so linke? :V

ocean robin
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👀

hot cloak
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btw I know it's not allowed to talk German politics here, but I want to make clear it's more about the history than it is about the political climate now

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So please don't ban me

pine ginkgo
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lol

sturdy shadow
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Im sorry

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The hammer has bern sharpened

hot cloak
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:thatonesweatyblobemoji:

mild cosmos
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The P-Word is perfectly acceptable in this chat room: Pigglywiggly

sturdy shadow
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P word?

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Phantom Thieves?

pine ginkgo
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anyway, if you want historical discourse

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you should avoid loaded descriptions like reddies

hot cloak
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oof

sturdy shadow
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I mean, colognians would die for their reds

mild cosmos
#

Pandemonium Postmaster

sturdy shadow
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The Effzeh is super important to them

mild cosmos
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Natch

sturdy shadow
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Polestar 1, Volvo's new sportscar

mild cosmos
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Sweeeeeeet

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The advances in optics we'll see in our lifetimes excites me to no end

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I can't wait to see images from the James Webb Space Telescope

hot cloak
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cow

nocturne frost
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Its beautiful

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@mild cosmos have you seen the imaging of Jupiter?

mild cosmos
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@nocturne frost yup. The latest Juno flyby of Jupiter's South Pole produced some absolutely jaw dropping images

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Since the 14th flyby is just being published now, there should be a new set of color enhanced photos surfacing any time now

nocturne frost
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ohhh beautiful

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it looks absolutely gorgeous

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like a fucking gemstone instead of a planet lmaoo

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I saved the raw data to read over on a rainy day 👀

pine ginkgo
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nerd

nocturne frost
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I hope we get better imaging of neptune

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I wanna see that big blue ball in detail

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nah

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its honestly mesmerising

mild cosmos
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I hope we get science missions to the outer planets in general; New Horizons blew my mind. I've spent hours reading about the discoveries it made and I can't wait until it makes its next flyby of a Kuiper Belt object

nocturne frost
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me neither, I'll ping you if I hear anything

stable lichen
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yeah

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astronomy is amazing

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wow it captured a really amazing image, i found this on the official site of the mission

nocturne frost
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it really looks like a gemstone more

hot cloak
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@opal sequoia base, is it true that australia has special sprays against spiders?

fading socket
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yeah they're called flamethrowers @hot cloak

hot cloak
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it was a serious question tho mmlol

fading socket
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couldn't resist

signal crater
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Can a native speaker help me real quick?

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I just need to know how to translate a particular sentence. I’m making a gift for my girlfriend who’s from Baveria and Id like to write it all in Deutsch but I don’t know the translation of a particular phrase

hot cloak
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post it here and someone might help

signal crater
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Alright, the phrase is: I love to make out with you (i don’t know what kind of verb ‚to make out‘ would be)

hot cloak
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@opaque smelt help pls

signal crater
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I imagine it goes something like: ich liebe es, mit dir .....

opaque smelt
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watap

hot cloak
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@opaque smelt how do you say "I love to make out with you" in german?

whole rapids
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es gefällt mir sehr, mit dir herumzuknutschen 💋

opaque smelt
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Ich liebe es mit dir rumzumachen

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that's slang tho

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But tbh it's a common slang

whole rapids
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what if you wanted to be poetic

hot cloak
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whats herumknutschen

signal crater
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Dankeschön! 😃

whole rapids
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same thing

opaque smelt
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knutschen is like kissing

hot cloak
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icic

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we need a session on flirting vocab loleyes

opaque smelt
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Is "making out with someone" poetic tho? @whole rapids

whole rapids
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I guess not

signal crater
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Im making a jar called ‚Hundert Gründe aus denen ich dich liebe‘ for my girlfriend and that’s the only thing I needed help with haha

hot cloak
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its to mislead them, arrow mmlol

opaque smelt
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So you want romantic stuff to fill it with?

signal crater
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I already had the other 99 sentences, I just wasn’t sure what ‚making out‘ would translate to lol

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It’s all set now for me to send it to her on Monday 👍

opaque smelt
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Nice commitment 👍

whole rapids
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does she like soppy stuff like that?

opaque smelt
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I think girls love stuff like that

whole rapids
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that's some real dedication to write 100 sentences

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depends on the girl

opaque smelt
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It does

signal crater
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Oh she does, she loves sappy romantic stuff

opaque smelt
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fossil nova
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whole rapids
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💋

hot cloak
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do guys like sappy stuff?

whole rapids
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it's nice to be complimented if it's genuine

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kinda hard to take sappy stuff seriously tho, for me anyway

hot cloak
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whats sappy, btw?

whole rapids
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my gf calls me a Schleimer when I do it but she still likes it

hot cloak
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urban sappy

viral thunderBOT
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:x: You're not a mod. Please run this command in the botchannel.

hot cloak
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sad

whole rapids
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means the same as "corny", or melodramatic

hot cloak
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urban sappy

viral thunderBOT
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Your search for sappy returned the following:
Definition

to be romantic in a [foolish] or [exaggerated] way; to describe a relationship full of [sap]

Example

[Emma] and [Jordan's] relationship is [sooooo] sappy

whole rapids
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why are certain words in square brackets?

hot cloak
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hmmmm that definition doesnt say much tbh

whole rapids
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try corny

fossil nova
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hmm

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i wouldn't say sappy is the same!

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@hot cloak I would say sappy has a rather

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idealistic or romantic connotation

whole rapids
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in the context of romance I would say they're identical

fossil nova
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perhaps overly emotional

whole rapids
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but corny can be more

fossil nova
#

Hmm

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I feel like corny is a bit harsher

hot cloak
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so like overly romantic?

whole rapids
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@hot cloak yes, like how your eyes are like entrancing, dazzling stars that I can just lose myself in

hot cloak
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oh ic

fossil nova
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Hmm

hot cloak
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i guess girls do like that stuff

fossil nova
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Think of a love story with loads of cliches and really overly emotional etc

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Personally, I do love some sappy stuff haha

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It's cute

hot cloak
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potat, are you a girl or a guy?

fossil nova
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guy lol

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just not the most masculine one lol

hot cloak
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what makes a guy masculine?

fossil nova
#

exactly

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i was gonna add like

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what does masculinity even mean

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_>

hot cloak
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gender is a social construction

fossil nova
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hmm

hot cloak
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i personally quite like the stuff thats expected of girls and guys tho

fossil nova
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In what way?

hot cloak
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like, guys being gentlemen and protecting girls

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and girls being nice, feminine and soft

fossil nova
#

Hmm

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I kinda wanna be both lol

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and then again

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what do you mean by feminine

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deep

hot cloak
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I go to an all girls school

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I like the idea of being an independent woman

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Oo several people are typing

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feminine is being caring and emotional for me i guess

mossy igloo
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All boy and all girl school get you extreme horny when you are in contact with the other gender

whole rapids
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masculinity is when you refuse to let the pickle jar beat you

hot cloak
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men and women just have different way of showing things idk how to describe it

fossil nova
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Hmm I mean I can kinda confirm what Anto's said as I'm at an all-boys' school

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lol

hot cloak
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hahahaha

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LOL

whole rapids
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you guys should meet

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horniness overload

fossil nova
#

I don't mean ME

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lmao

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that's not what I'm saying

hot cloak
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I don't mean me either

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sure potat sure loleyes

fossil nova
#

no no you don't understand

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lol

whole rapids
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ya-huh

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@fossil nova Translate: This is the sentence that I should have written.

hot cloak
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I do feel somewhat uncomfortable when I see boys around

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independence and all nice but i have no ambitions so its too tiring for me

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But then again, I firstaided at a boy school today

fossil nova
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Das ist der Satz, den ich hätte schreiben sollen.

hot cloak
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A rugby match

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sounds smelly teri

fossil nova
#

Hmmm.

hot cloak
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smelly sweating guys

fossil nova
#

I don't feel uncomfortable really

hot cloak
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And bloody.

fossil nova
#

Tbh I often prefer to talk to girls anyway

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Well

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Not prefer

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But it can be nicer often

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Sometimes less superficial

mossy igloo
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Well i was in a boys only class and i played football(extremely gay sport trust me)

fossil nova
#

how is that an extremely gay sport

whole rapids
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I thought you'd be used to blood as a girl

mossy igloo
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Locker room atmosphere

hot cloak
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I never said I wasn't

whole rapids
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:')

hot cloak
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guys are superficial?

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doesnt it depend on a person?

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^

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i know both superficial girls and guys tbh

fossil nova
#

that's why i said sometimes

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it depends on the person

whole rapids
#

gender is pretty much irrelevant

fossil nova
#

hmm

whole rapids
#

I guess men tend to be one thing more and women tend to be other stuff more

fossil nova
#

I'm pretty sure I've seen studies talking about how friendships between girls and between guys are different

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brb

whole rapids
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yeah I believe that

hot cloak
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me too

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but in what way?

whole rapids
#

I defo treat my male and female friends differently

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unconsciously and consciously

hot cloak
#

All my discord friends are guys now that I think of it

fossil nova
#

Hmm

hot cloak
#

i think potat meant guy-guy and girl-girl

fossil nova
#

See, I'm the opposite

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And yes, that's what I meant

hot cloak
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I need more girlfriends

fossil nova
#

otherwise i wouldn't have repeated the word between lol

hot cloak
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make a harem teri

fossil nova
#

uhhh

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oof

hot cloak
#

....

whole rapids
#

orite

hot cloak
fossil nova
#

What I mean is like hmm

hot cloak
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They just happen to be people of the opposite gender🤷

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i meant a harem of women

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lolz

whole rapids
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become a part of my herd

fossil nova
#

With many guys I never get beyond the more superficial types of conversation [e.g. how was your week etc] whereas i tend to have the more interesting/deep conversations with people who may be considered 'more girly' or with girls, often

#

hmm

hot cloak
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i thought you had enough young girls already, pferdo

fossil nova
#

But obviously my experience is VERY limited

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but uhhhhh

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can i be part of your herd, Zukunftspferd?

hot cloak
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What is your profile pic, Pferd?

mossy igloo
#

Pferdo you got a herd? So you like sheep?

whole rapids
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it's the horse nebula

hot cloak
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have you tried having a deeper convo with them, potat?

whole rapids
#

everything I do is horse related

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everyone can be a part of my herd

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depends what you mean by "deep", potaterino

hot cloak
#

Maybe Potat finds it easier to relate to girls because he's more "feminine"

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i think he meant 10m inder the sea lvl

whole rapids
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kann sein

fossil nova
#

no i wouldn't say i'm more feminine really

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hmm

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idk

whole rapids
#

I'll test you potato

fossil nova
#

Maybe I just tend to mingle with those kinds of people hahaha

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Oh no

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Don't test me

hot cloak
#

you said so before tho potat

fossil nova
#

Oh well

whole rapids
#

how long is soon?

fossil nova
#

I phrased it badly

#

uhhhhh

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DOn't test me Pferd

#

hmm

hot cloak
#

whats your sexual preference, potat?

whole rapids
#

horses

hot cloak
#

potatoes

fossil nova
#

i'm straight

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wait no

whole rapids
#

geradeaus

fossil nova
#

potatoes are my preference

hot cloak
#

Yee

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straight potatoes it is then

#

notes down

fossil nova
#

lmao

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notes down

hot cloak
#

what about slightly curved ones?

fossil nova
#

lol

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they're fine

hot cloak
#

notes down again

fossil nova
#

lmao

hot cloak
#

anyways, wdym by being feminine then?

fossil nova
#

idek

hot cloak
#

what are you trying to find out Suzu

mossy igloo
#

A pussy

fossil nova
#

I think I phrased it in a weird way

hot cloak
#

.>

fossil nova
#

Lemme think

mossy igloo
#

Jk

fossil nova
#

uhhhhhhhhh

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lol

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I am a wimp though

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lol

whole rapids
#

feminine is when you cry because your favourite fictional character died

hot cloak
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That ain't funny Anto

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we're all feminine then

fossil nova
#

lol

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I cried after reading a book

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so uhhh

whole rapids
#

so feminine omg

hot cloak
#

the femininity is oozing out of you

fossil nova
#

That was a while ago, though

mossy igloo
#

But anime is real

fossil nova
#

true

hot cloak
#

what did you mean by feminine potato

fossil nova
#

i'm still confused as to why i said that

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I guess just like hmm

hot cloak
#

ok, youre confused notes down

fossil nova
#

lemme think

whole rapids
#

feminine is when you're non-confrontational but will go into a rage if your friend is insulted/hurt

hot cloak
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I think I have the typical feminine personality

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Oh god that's me

fossil nova
#

I'm very non-confrontational

hot cloak
#

i dont think thats the main point of being feminine tho

fossil nova
#

btw is suzu psychoanalysing me

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and yes

whole rapids
#

feminine is when you roll your eyes at immature things

fossil nova
#

I don't think that's the main point 😂

whole rapids
#

feminine is when you like horses

hot cloak
#

rolling eyes is neither feminine nor mature tho

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I roll my eyes so much that sometimes they hurt

fossil nova
#

anyway

whole rapids
#

feminine is when you're not masculine

fossil nova
#

I only said I'm not overly masculine lmao

#

Like

hot cloak
#

whats overly masculine

whole rapids
#

what is masculine

fossil nova
#

idek

hot cloak
#

whats masculine

fossil nova
#

i'm tired

hot cloak
#

Playing rugby

fossil nova
#

and losing brain cells

#

lol

whole rapids
#

masculine is when you like football, drinking beer, and eating steaks

hot cloak
#

eh

mossy igloo
#

Thats me

fossil nova
#

But yeah I've never fit in the typical crowd with liking sports, obsessing over girls, alcohol etc etc but that's fairly average

whole rapids
#

masculine is when you tell your friend he's a cunt, which is code for "I love you"

fossil nova
#

It was more of a flippant remark

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or joke

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because of the context

whole rapids
#

girls are not to be trusted anyway

fossil nova
#

of talking about sappy stuff

#

So yeah don't psychoanalyse me

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lol

hot cloak
#

girls are just imaginary anyways

fossil nova
#

lol

mossy igloo
#

Yeah i dont fit in crowds too. But i think most of us here dont fit xD

fossil nova
#

exactly

whole rapids
#

when's the last time you saw a girl?

#

exactly

fossil nova
#

the problem with that right

whole rapids
#

they don't exist

fossil nova
#

is that i've been in my house most of the time anyway haha

#

but yesterday?

whole rapids
#

that wasn't a girl

fossil nova
#

oh

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fairs

#

tbh

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

whole rapids
#

Suzu, what is feminine to you?

fossil nova
#

deep

hot cloak
#

deeeep

#

i said it above

whole rapids
#

is it when you break a nail but whatever, you have more

#

I didn't see

fossil nova
#

sweet, soft iirc

#

?

hot cloak
#

caring and emotional

fossil nova
#

is that what you said lol

#

oh

hot cloak
#

Not being asked to carry heavy stuff

whole rapids
#

what is masculine then

fossil nova
#

hmm

#

Being uncaring and unemotional.

#

/s

whole rapids
#

caring and stoic

hot cloak
#

gentlemanly and protecting

#

less emotional

fossil nova
#

hmm

#

The thing is right

#

by being 'less emotional', what do you mean exactly?

#

do you mean in terms of showing emotions?

hot cloak
#

yes

#

"Boys don't cry"

fossil nova
#

Hmm

hot cloak
#

no, they can cry

fossil nova
#

yes they can

whole rapids
#

I've never cried because horses don't have tearducts

hot cloak
#

but generally, when guys show as much emotions as girls, its feminine

#

I know they can

#

you dont see guys screaming when seeing a friend and hugging

#

that was in inverted commas to show that's what people typically say

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icic

fossil nova
#

I mostly only cry under more extreme stresses personally though [like people dying or being pretty stressed]

hot cloak
#

thats normal

fossil nova
#

yeah

#

But I meant to say

#

It's a rare occurence

whole rapids
#

women tend to cry more, ignoring extreme stress

hot cloak
#

true

#

i can confirm mmlol

fossil nova
#

Whereas I know people who might cry every fortnight or so

whole rapids
#

I wonder why

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pehaps societal pressure

hot cloak
#

menstruation

whole rapids
#

could be

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tears for lost blood cells

fossil nova
#

I guess the menstrual cycle can mean your hormones go out of whack at certain points, too

#

but yeah

#

hmm

#

Anyway

hot cloak
#

That too.

fossil nova
#

where is this conversation even going oof

whole rapids
#

it's going to the passive voice

hot cloak
#

towards blood

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We were trying to define "femininity"

fossil nova
#

interesting.

whole rapids
#

@hot cloak Translate: The fish was eaten before it should have been.

hot cloak
#

dies

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Der Fisch wurde gegessen bevor er sollte werden.

#

my best try, sorry

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btw, whats femininity and masculinity for you guys?

whole rapids
#

first clause is right

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second clause no

hot cloak
#

I think we've discussed all the conventional concepts of gender

whole rapids
#

I pretty much agree with Wikipedia

#

Traits traditionally cited as feminine include gentleness, empathy, and sensitivity,[7][8][9] though traits associated with femininity vary depending on location and context, and are influenced by a variety of social and cultural factors.[10]

hot cloak
#

Ye

whole rapids
#

Traits traditionally viewed as masculine in Western society include courage, independence, violence,[5] and assertiveness.[6][7][8] Machismo is a form of masculinity that emphasizes power and is often associated with a disregard for consequences and responsibility.[9]

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VIOLENCE

hot cloak
#

being rough

whole rapids
#

certainly true

hot cloak
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i wonder how masculinity is viewed in other part of the world then

fossil nova
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Hmm.

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Interesting.

whole rapids
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I'd wager similar

hot cloak
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Some tribes have female leaders

fossil nova
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Why do all the feminine traits seem really sweet whereas the masculine ones mention 'violence' and 'disregard for consequences'

hot cloak
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idk what to do with the second sentence

fossil nova
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and yes, matriarchal societies would be very different

hot cloak
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thats just for macho, potat

fossil nova
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yeah i know

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but violence was mentioned in the first bit

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hot cloak
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Another female trait: being submissive.

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i believe its true tho, why else would guys play shooter and other violent games

fossil nova
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Hmm

hot cloak
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sports are also pretty violent

whole rapids
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I think submissiveness is more to do with hierarchy

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men tend to be more dominant

harsh nest
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there are def some negative traits traditionally associated with women, unfortunately

hot cloak
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Ye because they were raised in a patriarchal society

harsh nest
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women are portrayed as fickle backstabbers in a way men typically aren't

hot cloak
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like what, bet?

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hmmmm are they

fossil nova
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I would say being submissive vs dominant is a key factor of the typical distinction between masculinity and femininity, even if I don't agree with it too much

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Like

whole rapids
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men and women have stereotypes I guess

fossil nova
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I was even taught to play certain notes in a 'feminine' way in piano

harsh nest
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think about all the negative stereotypes of women as gossip-y and starting drama

hot cloak
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I agree with Bet

fossil nova
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Hmm

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Yeah that does happen

hot cloak
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oh yeah

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but guys love drama too

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in reality i mean

harsh nest
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traditional masculinity and traditional femininity are bundles of both positive and negative traits, along with traits that could go either way

fossil nova
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yes

whole rapids
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I love drama, just not being a part of it

harsh nest
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same tbh

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🍿

fossil nova
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Being courageous is all good until you start risking your life for ridiculous things

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Hence why more young men die in accidents iirc

hot cloak
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@whole rapids pls tell me the second sentence

whole rapids
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Der Fisch wurde gegessen, bevor er hätte gegessen werden sollen.

fossil nova
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Guys, you've got it wrong. The only feminine trait is liking the colour pink.

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/s

whole rapids
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my gf hates pink

fossil nova
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yeah it was a joke

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we both have pink in our pfps lmao

whole rapids
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no jokes pls

hot cloak
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jokes are banned here

fossil nova
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hence the /s

whole rapids
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this is erious server

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ohne S

fossil nova
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arrem exists
'this is a erious server'

hot cloak
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Real men wear pink

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arrem is the embodiment of seriousness

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pink is the new black

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Hence, BLACKPINK IN YOUR AREA

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i wish