general-2

[thick charm]

rather than just to believe

[ocean robin]

oh yeah

[whole rapids]

PHASE 5 - FORMING THE KONJUNKTIV 2
Give the structure for how the Konjunktiv 2 is formed with a verb. How it is conjugated. For example with gehen or wissen

[pine ginkgo]

phase 5? 🤔

[thick charm]

intermission

translate phase five to German Flopps

or bell

[whole rapids]

they did last 4 phases last night

and reached checkpoint

[pine ginkgo]

pferdi so smartz

[shy bobcat]

pferdi best flop teacher

😄

[sour mesa]

Pferdi is gonna get floppa towards B1

lol

[red pewter]

Well, you either use the conjugated werden for konj II + verb, or just the verb in its konj II. The konj II looks a lot like the Präteritum, but sometimes there's a vowel shift. Here's an example for gehen: ich würde gehen oder ich ginge

[whole rapids]

THINKING...

[shy bobcat]

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

ping flops

[viral thunder]

:ping_pong: Pong! | 527.4ms

[whole rapids]

Your answer is not wrong but not what I meant

[shy bobcat]

You forgot to mention that the "irregular"/strong verbs usually add an extra -e btw

like war > wäre
gab > gäbe
stand > stünde

[whole rapids]

Flops has disconnected.

Let me rephrase the task for you @red pewter

Explain how the Konjunktiv 2 conjugated verb is formed. For example, a past participle is usually formed like so: ge + verb stem + t

[red pewter]

Gib der Aufbau für wie das II wird mit einem Verb aufgebaut. Wie wird es konjugiert. Für Beispiel mit gehen oder wissen This is probably rough, @thick charm because of the time crunch

oh sorry pferd

I didn't understand

[shy bobcat]

I don't know if that's what pferd was asking for either 😅

[red pewter]

?

the translation chuck asked for

[pine ginkgo]

bell

do sentences with imperative have a subject?

(unless using Sie)

sorry for intermission intermission

[red pewter]

I'm guessing by the question that the answer is yes. I don't know how to form an imperative.

[pine ginkgo]

oooh

wait wut

how did you get Gib then

[red pewter]

I looked up "german imperative"

[pine ginkgo]

if there's a new grammatical structure

please ask us and tell us before

[red pewter]

i found that.

[pine ginkgo]

bell :)

[red pewter]

okay sorry ❤

[pine ginkgo]

no, it's fine

you show initiative on your own

[whole rapids]

GAME RELOADED

[pine ginkgo]

but if you tell us if you don't know stuff

[whole rapids]

GAME RESET

[pine ginkgo]

i can change how i judge your sentence

[whole rapids]

WISDOM SHALL BE IMPARTED:

Your tome has a new entry: To form the Konjunktiv II, get the Präteritum form and add an -e if there is not one already. If the verb is a strong or irregular verb and has a, o, u, then it gains an umlaut.

[red pewter]

oh okay :33 thank you

[shy bobcat]

"strong verb" technically leaves out wüsste, wäre. könnte etc

just for the record

😉

[whole rapids]

I am not going to be anal about it

[twilit garden]

heh

[whole rapids]

for Ari I will edit it

since he is right I GUESS

[shy bobcat]

😉

Sorry I know my grammar terms 😅

[whole rapids]

surprised "wissen" isn't strong tbh

I knew the modal verbs weren't

[shy bobcat]

For the record, word choice might still be a bit funny but I think Gib den Satzbau, wie der Konjunktiv II aus einem Verb gebildet wird—wie man es konjugiert, zum Beispiel "gehen" oder "wissen" is a relatively good attempt at translating that.

[whole rapids]

since Flops has went elsewhere, we will not wait for her

[shy bobcat]

DANN MAL LOS MIT DEM SPIEL!

😄

[ocean robin]

D:

[red pewter]

thanks ari :33

I will look it over

hi flaps ❤

[ocean robin]

[whole rapids]

PHASE 5 - FORMING THE KONJ 2
Without looking them up (we will trust you), give a conjugation for each verb: nehmen trinken haben essen schreiben

[ocean robin]

damn

[red pewter]

.....

[whole rapids]

glaub an dir

[red pewter]

I lose my life I don't know the Präteritum for thes

[ocean robin]

*dich? 🤔

or dir?

idk

[whole rapids]

give as many as you can

[red pewter]

I don't think I know any

ich tränke maybe. it looks like sänge 🤷

[whole rapids]

RICHTIG

[red pewter]

😄 😄 😄

[ocean robin]

ich nähme / ich tränke / ich hätte / ich aß / ich (uh wot)
I tried but please I don't want to die not sure on the essen one at all

[red pewter]

ah, i should know ich hätte. that's silly.

[shy bobcat]

aß

😦

[ocean robin]

:<

[shy bobcat]

@ocean robin what did you do to the preterites of the other 3

[ocean robin]

I was taught that, whai

🤔

well an umlaut

[shy bobcat]

nahm > nähme, trank > tränke, hatte > hätte, aß > ?

[ocean robin]

wait

D:

[shy bobcat]

äße? 😛

[whole rapids]

DID YOU NOT READ THE TOME

[ocean robin]

wat

I DID BUT

[whole rapids]

READ IT AGAIN

[ocean robin]

WASN'T SURE ABOUT THAT ONE

[cold vessel]

But now you see? 😄

[ocean robin]

🤔

uh I kinda thought what Ari said but

it could be wrong

[whole rapids]

cbell, do you the past participle for schreiben?

[red pewter]

nope. I'm guessing geschreibt

[ocean robin]

🤔

[shy bobcat]

😦

[ocean robin]

Ne.

[shy bobcat]

"geschrieben" 😉

[ocean robin]

^

[red pewter]

ah

tried to get too fancy

[ocean robin]

wait so

:O

[shy bobcat]

strong verb 😄

[whole rapids]

they are all non-weak verbs

they got some muscle

[ocean robin]

ich schriebe 🤔

yay

[red pewter]

okay

so I get that you take konj II from Präteritum

but how the heckie do you know how to form THAT

[whole rapids]

memorisation

[shy bobcat]

you memorise it

[ocean robin]

rip us

[whole rapids]

also hints from the verbs and dipthongs

"ei" usually switches to "ie" for past participle and simple past

[red pewter]

okay

[whole rapids]

DAS UNGEHEUER FREUT SICH ÜBER EURE FORTSCHRITT

[sudden panther]

Fan Blooper.

[whole rapids]

what's this?

THERE'S A PART 2

[pine ginkgo]

EURE

FORTSCHRITT

PFERD PLEASE

[shy bobcat]

Flop ist anscheinend in #german-only weggefloppt

[cold vessel]

Petition to make a DM role for Pferd

[ocean robin]

PART 2

YAY

[sudden panther]

Petition accepted. But the role also prevents you from speaking.

I should move into a lamp and grant wishes.

[ocean robin]

[whole rapids]

PHASE 5.2 - FORMING THE KONJ 2
Without looking them up (we will trust you), give a conjugation for each verb: bezahlen öffnen wünschen erfreuen hassen

[sudden panther]

würde bezahlen, würde öffnen, würde wünschen, würde erfreuen, würde hassen
I'll take my grammar points, thanks.

[whole rapids]

get out

[sudden panther]

O shit Ari took his hearts back.

[torn latch]

yep

[ocean robin]

ich bezahlte / ich öffnete / ich wünschte / ich erfreute / ich hasste I think.

[red pewter]

can I look up the conjugation for the Präteritum?

[whole rapids]

NO

[shy bobcat]

you should know those

[red pewter]

I honestly don't know any of them 😦

[whole rapids]

they are weak verbs

WEAK

[ocean robin]

rip bell :<

[sudden panther]

Guess. 😛

[ocean robin]

YAY

[red pewter]

I haven't had any reason to learn them! Everyone said they were writing only 😦

[shy bobcat]

well

writing is an important skill 😄

[torn latch]

yea

everything is important

[whole rapids]

you must know all German grammar

no matter how obscure

[fair iron]

Irregular verbs are often in the preterite form when spoken.

[red pewter]

I know I MUST but there's so much I haven't learned I have to prioritize

[torn latch]

(Cascaaa ❤ )

[red pewter]

hi casca ❤

[shy bobcat]

Hello, Casca.

😄

[uncut ember]

but knowing how to speak is much more useful than knowing howto write, so it makes sense @red pewter starts there

sHe must learn

[whole rapids]

okay, do you know how to form the Präteritum with regular verbs?

[uncut ember]

the weak forms

[red pewter]

she*

[uncut ember]

but at first it is not as important as knowing the strong forms

sorry

she

[fair iron]

(Miaaa ❤ )

Hey Bell. ^^

[red pewter]

no I don't

[whole rapids]

FLOPS

SAVE YOUR PARTNER

[ocean robin]

For weak verbs Bell:
ich spielte / du spieltest / er spielte / wir spielten / ihr spieltet / sie spielten

[shy bobcat]

die

[ocean robin]

fuck

Hey Casca.

[sudden panther]

Bad Flops. Swearing is banned.

[red pewter]

okay

[ocean robin]

[sudden panther]

washes Floopmouth with soap

[red pewter]

so te/test/te/ten/tet/ten

[uncut ember]

da

[shy bobcat]

yes essentially

now the key element there is the -te

[uncut ember]

habe and then conj is more simple

i beleive

could be wrong

[pine ginkgo]

?

[whole rapids]

irrelevant

[red pewter]

okay. now that I know this, I can try.

[uncut ember]

@terse mirage what is the forms for strong verbs

[ocean robin]

They aren't a form for them since they're strong

[whole rapids]

verb stem + te (+ more depending on person) for weak verb Präteritum

[ocean robin]

🤔

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo he's pretty much saying "perfekt is easier than learning preterites"

which is exactly what we don't want

[ocean robin]

sure

lel

[whole rapids]

NANI?

[uncut ember]

Afrikaans only has perfekt

[red pewter]

ich bezahlte, ich öffente, ich wünschte, ich erfreute, ich hasste would be all of the Präteritums

[shy bobcat]

öffente

👀

[uncut ember]

@whole rapids oh ma ma moo. shinderu

[cold vessel]

You don't need preterites and conjunctives if your only ambition is to meme on Discord anyway

[uncut ember]

oof

[red pewter]

ich öffnete 😄

[shy bobcat]

Aber wenn dein Ziel gutes Deutsch sprechen ist, dann brauchst du sie halt

[ocean robin]

💯

[pallid kelp]

@cold vessel er sagte, ich memte

[cold vessel]

That goal is too much work, ari

[shy bobcat]

Ok, and what did we learn about konj iis of regular weak verbs @red pewter

@cold vessel ne, das ist es nicht.

@red pewter ❓

[red pewter]

we learned that it's the same as the Präteritum

[cold vessel]

I don't understand "halt" there, is it a modal particle?

[red pewter]

but if it doesn't end in an e you gotta add one

[ocean robin]

🤔

Won't happen for weak verbs I think though

[red pewter]

oh

oops

[ocean robin]

only strong verbs :D

[red pewter]

To form the Konjunktiv II, get the Präteritum form and add an -e if there is not one already.

it doesn't specify weak or strong

[ocean robin]

🤔

Forgive me then.

[pine ginkgo]

yes, henbri, halt is a modal particle

[whole rapids]

good

PHASE PASSED

[shy bobcat]

probably a misused one

[ocean robin]

LOL

[shy bobcat]

@whole rapids Mach mal weiter mit dem Quälen Spiel

[pine ginkgo]

na ari

halt is pretty easy to use

[whole rapids]

PHASE 6 - USE YOUR KNOWLEDGE
Translate: I would open the door or close the door.

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo yeah halt is one of the nice ones

mal 👀
schon 👀
doch 👀

[whole rapids]

einfach halt mal

[red pewter]

there's no way that close is regular

because doesn't it turn into geschlossen ?

[whole rapids]

you can look it up

[cold vessel]

What did it mean in the sentence you said, ari?

[whole rapids]

but you're right

[cold vessel]

Norwegian has modal particles but they don't seem to map very well 😩

[red pewter]

ich öffnete die Tür oder schlösse die Tür

[shy bobcat]

@cold vessel which one, halt?

Halt means something like "it is how it is, and I can't do nuffin about it"

if you will

[ocean robin]

Ich öffnete die Tür oder schlösse die Tür 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

interesting

[whole rapids]

DAS UNGEHEUER IST NICHT ERFREUT ABER NICHT NICHT ERFREUT

[pine ginkgo]

NICHT ABER NICHT

[red pewter]

...double negatives?

[pine ginkgo]

yep :D

[red pewter]

can I take a guess why?

[whole rapids]

du darfst

[red pewter]

I feel like we said I would open the door or would close the door

[shy bobcat]

...which is afaik exactly what you're supposed to

[whole rapids]

the problem is the ambiguity

do you remember what the tome said to do when the Konj II of a verb is the same as the Präteritum?

[red pewter]

add an e if there's not one already :?

[whole rapids]

and if it's still the exact same?

how does one tell if it's Präteritum or Konj II?

[red pewter]

flaps :?

bell remembers!

[shy bobcat]

Bell should spit it out! 😄

[red pewter]

when they're the same, we were supposed to use würden

or else we will have this very problem 😄

[whole rapids]

yes

[sudden panther]

Don't let a grammar book tell you what to use bell! You're the speaker and you do whatever the hell you want. Don't let any silly book push you around and tell you what to do. GET MAD!

[pallid kelp]

I saw you arrim

[sudden panther]

Ew. You're blue. Ew.

[shy bobcat]

how is berz blue 👀

[sudden panther]

Why can't we all agree to stop changing our colors? Change is bad people.

[red pewter]

Ich würde die Tür öffnen oder würde die Tür schließen.

[pallid kelp]

so that the nick can go well with the squid girl's hair

[sudden panther]

Well, now Ari and berzi have to mentor me. 👶 👼

[shy bobcat]

nah arrem

[pearl prawn]

https://i.gyazo.com/c8f0e0d01dad3126bb11fd6c2d2ad24e.png
text as well if you cheat

[pallid kelp]

arrem if we're blue you definitely are too

[sudden panther]

I'm not blue though. 😛

[pallid kelp]

you're the greenest 💚

[whole rapids]

good cbell

[sudden panther]

To each his own I suppose. I'd just like to be 100% confident in my language abilities before I make the change. And I can't quite make that claim yet. Then again, I haven't done any active learning in months. 😛

[whole rapids]

schließen was okay though, it's unambigious

[red pewter]

oh yeah lol it was strong already

[whole rapids]

strong like my muscles

[red pewter]

😄

[whole rapids]

where is Flaps? Did she get hunted?

[ocean robin]

I am back.

[whole rapids]

read the above and try again

[ocean robin]

My brother is annoying so I had to leave for a bit .__.

[sudden panther]

Can we make The Flooper would have been murdered by the fox hunters. her next sentence? 😛

[sour mesa]

Wew

[red pewter]

actual picture of Pferd

[sour mesa]

LMAO

[ocean robin]

arrem

the heck is this

[whole rapids]

if you do the passive voice like me you can become like that

[ocean robin]

🤔

[whole rapids]

TOO IMPATIENT

PHASE PASSED

[sudden panther]

Rekt!

[whole rapids]

FLOPS WILL HAVE TO LEARN BY FAILURE

[sour mesa]

Wow

Aggressive

[sudden panther]

I love horsie's teaching methods. No slacking off allowed.

[twilit garden]

tbh: Arrem has been C since i first joined here

sorry for outofcontext

[whole rapids]

the HIDDEN PHASE lock has gained a point! It now has 7 of 9 points needed to unlock it

[red pewter]

😄

[whole rapids]

KONJ 2 - BEGINNER ZONE PASSED

BOSS BATTLE

[sour mesa]

What

Lol

[shy bobcat]

I can't say I'm 100 percent confident in my german (I'm definitely not) but I just trust the wise words of korea

[twilit garden]

i have not seen any by him

[whole rapids]

Take on the boss?

[red pewter]

Yes!

[ocean robin]

Die Flopperin würde von den Fuchsjägern gemordet worden sein?

🤔

[sour mesa]

What

[ocean robin]

idk actually x.x

But yeah, let's move on

[sour mesa]

That sounds so wrong to me but at the same time so good

My goodness i can spell today

[ocean robin]

lel

[twilit garden]

gemordet

[red pewter]

you just changed the wording over the spelling, amazing

[twilit garden]

please look up "to murder sb."

[ocean robin]

plox no D:

ermordet rip me

[twilit garden]

👍

[ocean robin]

I had to, Bell ^^

[whole rapids]

KONJ II - BEGINNER ZONE - BOSS
Translate: I would require food and she would need water.

AMBIGUITY RESULTS IN DEATH

[sour mesa]

Wow

Harsh

[cold vessel]

What's the difference between "need" and "require" anyway 🤔

[whole rapids]

nonelol

[sudden panther]

@twilit garden ich iel https://i.imgur.com/HZdQYP6.png

[sour mesa]

Oh my

[twilit garden]

heh

[sour mesa]

its flapps

[whole rapids]

can Arrem get a special role called "Meme in Person"?

[sudden panther]

That's my secret. Flops is an alt I made to troll you all.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[sour mesa]

Future Flappy is an alt you made to troll us all

[twilit garden]

based on everything that you have written and you have said - i don't think i do ^^

[sudden panther]

Just ask yourself. Have you ever seen Floop and Arrim in the same room together?

[ocean robin]

wOt

[whole rapids]

FLOPS

BOSS BATTLE

ARREM IS TOO STRONG FOR YOU RIGHT NOW

HE IS OMEGA LEVEL BOSS

CONCENTRATE

[sudden panther]

I rarely talk in voice, that's why it's a bit hard to notice. 😅

Writing is fine, that gives me time to think. But I still make a fair number of pauses to look for words or think stuff through while talking. And I'd like to get rid of that I guess. 😛

[red pewter]

I would require food and she would need water:Ich würde Essen benötigen und sie würde Wasser brauchen.

[sour mesa]

Is Arrem a girl or is Flopso a boi

[twilit garden]

i don't want to sound like i'm pressuring you into anything so fair enough ^^

[sour mesa]

If Arrem == Flopso

[sudden panther]

I am bigender.

[ocean robin]

Ich würde Essen brauchen und sie würde Wasser brauchen. or benötigen whatever 🤔

[sudden panther]

Or actually trigender. Flappton is neuter. 🤔

[ocean robin]

🤔

tf

[shy bobcat]

my written german is way better than my spoken german and that's why I kept saying korea shouldn't call me c level till he hears me actually try to speak

[whole rapids]

DER ENDGEGNER IST BESIEGT WORDEN

[ocean robin]

WOOOO

[red pewter]

😄

[whole rapids]

confetti falls upon cbell and flaps

[ocean robin]

good passivee over there btw

[sudden panther]

Well, Flops not speaking is why I refuse to call her an A2. So it would be a bit memey to call myself C1 until I nail that down myself. 😛

[ocean robin]

\o/

[shy bobcat]

I try to speak german but I get scared again

[whole rapids]

before we continue, what have we learnt from the beginner zone?

[shy bobcat]

I had like a short confidence boost after I got blue'd but it went away 😦

[sudden panther]

Will it help if we make a new color for you? 😛

[whole rapids]

I need to speak in German for a job interview tomorrow

gonna fuck it up

[sudden panther]

you can be uh. What's not taken yet? Er. Pink.

[ocean robin]

Solet even said that if I didn't forget everything I would be almost B1 😦

[shy bobcat]

yeah, because we teach you some fun grammar in here

[whole rapids]

Flops, you will lmemorise it all for the points

[shy bobcat]

but then you forget it 😦

[red pewter]

We have learned: if it's weak, use würde. If there's no e, add one! and i personally learned how to form regular Präteritum

[ocean robin]

🤔

oh yeah

yep

[whole rapids]

there is something else you are missing regarding the strong and irregular verbs

[shy bobcat]

I've heard from another native that in written text you'll use konj iis even of weak verbs

[red pewter]

vowel change

[whole rapids]

good

[red pewter]

for a, o, u

[ocean robin]

With a a, e or u they need an umlaut

[sudden panther]

In writing? Sure you are. I agree with that. But we can't judge your speaking skills before we see them. And if you don't have the required speaking skills for a level, you can't say that you've reached it, because you wouldn't pass an official test without the speaking part.

[ocean robin]

🤔

mistyped

[red pewter]

flaps 😠

[ocean robin]

sorry

[sudden panther]

Speaking/listening really.

[whole rapids]

yeah, I've read that too Ari but I think it has to be obvious from context in that case

good

perhaps you can enter the next zone

[ocean robin]

I am so scared even with the English CEFR test I'll have to pass in February >.<

[whole rapids]

do you dare?

[ocean robin]

I would like to but I should sleep now ;___;

[red pewter]

RIP

i was ready to dare 😄

[whole rapids]

cbell can go it alone

[shy bobcat]

@whole rapids and in something like "Wenn der Chef die Tür nicht schließte, hätte ich noch Eingang ins Zimmer" that'd be obvious from context, I think

[red pewter]

Okay :33

[ocean robin]

Then she can go alone :D

[gleaming moth]

what exactly are you doing @whole rapids

[whole rapids]

yeah that's pretty obvious

the "wenn" acts as an indicator

[red pewter]

we are learning!

[whole rapids]

we are doing Konj II

[gleaming moth]

Ill take floppy's place then since she's heading off

[red pewter]

welcome :33

[whole rapids]

as you wish

WELCOME TO THE KONJ II DUNGEON

[gleaming moth]

dun dun dun

[whole rapids]

first things first

can you do/do you know Konj II?

[tribal warren]

save me

[gleaming moth]

not by name

but its probably something i've skimmed over but never mastered, looking it uo now

[whole rapids]

better whip out google then

[gleaming moth]

ah so its like cases where something would've happened but didn't?

[whole rapids]

right idea

[pine ginkgo]

yeah

[whole rapids]

we'll see if you can do it

as we enter the KONJ II PURPOSE ZONE

[pine ginkgo]

PURPOSE

btw pferd

you still haven't fixed ÜBER EURE FORTSCHRITT

[whole rapids]

fk, I always think Schritt is feminine

EUER

[pine ginkgo]

oh

sorry incomplete

FREUT SICH ÜBER EURE FORTSCHRITT

[shy bobcat]

the über was already there in the "incomplete" one

so ban pferdo

[pine ginkgo]

yeah but über can take multiple cases

though what he wrote was wrong anyway

[shy bobcat]

yup

what gender is Schritt

@whole rapids

[whole rapids]

DAS UNGEHEUER FREUT SICH ÜBER EUEREN FORTSCHRITT

[pine ginkgo]

EUEREN

[whole rapids]

WHAT IT'S AN OPTION

I WAS TAUGHT

[pine ginkgo]

what

[shy bobcat]

EU__E__REN

[whole rapids]

FK SAKE

[shy bobcat]

@sudden panther Ban dieses Pferd hier bitte

[red pewter]

my teacher is gonna explode 😄

[quasi merlin]

Is that really an option? :o

[pine ginkgo]

never heard of it

[sudden panther]

ban diesem Horse here bidduh

[viral thunder]

❌ Bad argument: Member "diesem Horse here bidduh" not found

[pine ginkgo]

and too lazy to google that

[quasi merlin]

Me neither

[whole rapids]

then what do you do for euer?

[pine ginkgo]

euren

[quasi merlin]

euren

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo might have been an option in like luther's time before spelling had been invented

but deffo not in normal German

😄

[gleaming moth]

so to use Konj 2 is it like "Wenn ich essen kaufe, würde ich kein Hunger haben" ?

[sudden panther]

Eueren works but it's weird. https://i.imgur.com/ff0LcQK.png

[pine ginkgo]

but who uses it?

[whole rapids]

alright, shows how little I use that then

[sudden panther]

List of users according to the search function:
• Pferd
• ChessedGamon

Also as of now, you and me as well, I suppose. 😛

[pine ginkgo]

and teeeis :D

[red pewter]

😄

[shy bobcat]

😄

[whole rapids]

it's not something I often read so I haven't internalised it yet

okay whatever

the more you know 🌈

[tribal warren]

maybe I know someone who uses it

DAS UNGEHEUER

[pine ginkgo]

the more you know

[sudden panther]

Hey Bergo.

How did dying go?

Are you dead now?

[tribal warren]

yes

[sudden panther]

Cool.

[pine ginkgo]

cool

time for you to learn konj 2

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo Ich stelle mir vor, das die Entscheidung dafür, "eueren" zu benutzen, sieht etwa so aus: Ach, Scheiſze, ich muſz altmodiſch ausſehen, weiſz aber nicht, wie mann daz macht! Ähh, ähhh, eueren, daz paſst ſchonn

[pine ginkgo]

with flops and bell

[sudden panther]

So will you be studying CS or will we have to disown you?

[tribal warren]

no

I'm waiting for my food to arrive I'm starving

[pine ginkgo]

klingt gut, teeeisle

whatcha order

[sudden panther]

Food sounds nice. I should get some of that as well.

[tribal warren]

@sudden panther wait, there are still other 2 admission tests I have to do

[sudden panther]

What the fuck?

[tribal warren]

then I'll tell ya

[sudden panther]

a 238423848234 hour long test and then 2 more?

[whole rapids]

PHASE 1 - HYPOTHETICAL
Translate: If I were you, I wouldn't do that.

[tribal warren]

haha

I will only truly know on february, tbh

that's when they announce who got approved

[red pewter]

were....you?

[pine ginkgo]

yes

[sudden panther]

That sucks.

[pine ginkgo]

it's the english conjunctive

[tribal warren]

yea

[pine ginkgo]

:)

or remnants of that

[red pewter]

is that still konj II :?

[shy bobcat]

@whole rapids Ob ich waren du, ich würden'cht tun das

[whole rapids]

cbell now learns English subjunctive

[sudden panther]

s u b j u n c t i v e

[whole rapids]

get out Ari

I just followed the logic okay

okay

OKAY

[pine ginkgo]

OKAY

[tribal warren]

I think I was bad today tbh, it was too tiring and time was rough so I had to rush my essay and the last few questions, but it's all good cause this one isn't that important to me

[shy bobcat]

OKAY

[gleaming moth]

Wenn ich du wärest, würde ich das nicht machen?

[sudden panther]

dAMMIT bORGO

[tribal warren]

the essay thema was so fucking bad

[sudden panther]

Thema

[tribal warren]

[sudden panther]

gives Bergo his B2 certificate

[pine ginkgo]

dig, but what's the subject in yoru first clause

:)

[gleaming moth]

du?

[shy bobcat]

ne

[whole rapids]

DIG HAS DIED

[tribal warren]

it was "Challenges with the education of deafs in the brazilian society"

[sudden panther]

I hate deafs.

[shy bobcat]

😦

[sudden panther]

They're even worse than blinds.

[pine ginkgo]

rip dig

[tribal warren]

aah

deaf-people

whatever

[sudden panther]

By which I mean, use the deaf or something.

[shy bobcat]

@gleaming moth ok, in the sentence "if I were you"

which one is the subject

[tribal warren]

oh

[sudden panther]

So what did you write? 😛

[gleaming moth]

i... yeah

[shy bobcat]

ok

[ocean robin]

Brog.

[tribal warren]

?

[shy bobcat]

so therefore which one is the subject in German

ich or du

[gleaming moth]

Ich

[shy bobcat]

braves dig

and how do we do the konj ii of sein for "ich"

[pine ginkgo]

i am scared that teeeis will become verbittert like me when dealing with learners 😦

[gleaming moth]

ich wäre?

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo 😦

I'm too nice to ever become truly verbittert, also I'm not native so not qualified

@gleaming moth ✅

[whole rapids]

Ari is substandard native

[red pewter]

Wenn wäre ich du, würde ich nicht das machen.

[tribal warren]

I wrote that they had to have education since it's a human right, and that there was lack of specialized teachers and resources in the public schools, and uuuh, that technology needed to be always connected to this kind of education, since stimulating other senses would be good, and uuuuh, that they were excluded

[pine ginkgo]

word order bell

[whole rapids]

CBELL HAS DIED

[tribal warren]

I mean

[pine ginkgo]

as usual

[sudden panther]

Silly Ari. Just look at Floop when she corrects people and try to be just as sassy. 😛

[gleaming moth]

Wenn ich du wäre, würde ich das nicht machen?

[shy bobcat]

but being discount luna is more fun 😦

[red pewter]

Well, there goes my extra life.

[sudden panther]

Well that would be good enough for me. 👌

[red pewter]

that lasted long

[pine ginkgo]

it would be fine, if flops wouldn't try to be sassy, arrem 😦

[whole rapids]

ZONE FAILED

RETRY?

[pine ginkgo]

LOL

[sudden panther]

Can't blame her. Bullied people often become bullies themselves. 😛 We turned Floop into a lean mean bullying machine.

[ocean robin]

CAN I TRY

[pine ginkgo]

wait is flops dead, pferd?

[tribal warren]

idk, I don't really care that much about this test, I care about the one I'm doing in 19 days

[whole rapids]

FLOPS DISCONNECTED

[pine ginkgo]

rip

[shy bobcat]

@whole rapids lel zone is my krypti nick so I got confuse

[sudden panther]

Which is? 🤔

[red pewter]

flaps sleep

[ocean robin]

F-DAMMIT

[tribal warren]

it's another admission test

[ocean robin]

😦

[tribal warren]

but it's like my main one

[shy bobcat]

😦

[whole rapids]

your krypti nick?

[shy bobcat]

Krypti calls me Zone

[whole rapids]

RETRY ZONE?

[tribal warren]

so like today was my plan B, let's say

[shy bobcat]

Instead of Ari

[sudden panther]

Ah.

[whole rapids]

Ahri.

[pine ginkgo]

i thought you died, teeeis

when pferd said that

[sudden panther]

Having a plan B is always nice.

[ocean robin]

[red pewter]

Wenn ich du wäre, würde ich nicht das machen. <----- it's subordinating, so it goes to the end

[tribal warren]

I'll always be plan A2, though

[ocean robin]

mmmmh

[red pewter]

the second part i haven't figured out though

[shy bobcat]

I have at least 3 nicknames on here lel

[sudden panther]

Sondern?

[whole rapids]

yes good

well

[sudden panther]

Naw. I'm sure you'll have more than enough sagacity to pass A2.

[whole rapids]

word order for main clause still

[shy bobcat]

@red pewter namely flops' arch nemesis

nicht

[ocean robin]

Wenn ich dich wäre, würde ich das nicht machen

[shy bobcat]

DICH

[ocean robin]

welp

[pine ginkgo]

well, berg just needs his time to regain his study time for german one day

:D

[whole rapids]

FLOPS HAS DIED

[tribal warren]

Dude when I was at like the last 2 hours of the test

[ocean robin]

D:

[pine ginkgo]

FLOPS HAS DIED

[sudden panther]

fAN bLOOPS

[whole rapids]

ZONE FAILED

[red pewter]

sein doesn't have akk because it's a subject complement.

[shy bobcat]

FLOPS IST TOT 😦

[ocean robin]

AND MY SPECIAL LIFE

[shy bobcat]

🦊 🔫 😦

[pine ginkgo]

you disconnected

you lose all your gains if you do

[ocean robin]

I HAVE MY SPECIAL LIFE LEFT

[tribal warren]

A soccer game was happening among the biggest teams in Brazil everyone started screaming so loudly on the streets

fucking lost my concentration

[ocean robin]

DAMN SERIOUSLY

[pine ginkgo]

LOL

[whole rapids]

SUDDEN NEWFLASH

[sudden panther]

kill Flappy

[pine ginkgo]

should write a complaint, bergi

[ocean robin]

😦

[whole rapids]

Special life cannot be lost in first phase!

[red pewter]

Wenn ich du wäre, würde ich das machen nicht. :?

[whole rapids]

as then it would be pointless!

[tribal warren]

nah it's brazil, luna, in brazil you don't make complaints

[pine ginkgo]

no bell

[viral thunder]

User Flappy#3231 has been terminated. ✅

[ocean robin]

Wait, what?

[tribal warren]

in brazil you accept

[ocean robin]

NOOOO

[pine ginkgo]

why did you change that bell?

[ocean robin]

Wait that's not me

[sudden panther]

Shit I fucked up the ID as well.

[pine ginkgo]

oh

[ocean robin]

LOL

[pine ginkgo]

i see bell

[whole rapids]

self-rekt

[pine ginkgo]

it's the wrong place this time

[red pewter]

because word order :?

[pine ginkgo]

eh

[red pewter]

ugh

[pine ginkgo]

this one is wrong

[ocean robin]

i know the struggle bell :(

[pine ginkgo]

the previous one was among the correct ones

[viral thunder]

Change of plan. User Flappy#3231 has been brought back from the dead. We terminated Flappy#3132 instead.. ✅

[ocean robin]

😦

[red pewter]

then what did I do wrong?

[pine ginkgo]

but you didn't use the standard place

[sudden panther]

It's fine Floop, we still love you.

[ocean robin]

❤

[red pewter]

where would that be?

[whole rapids]

yes, you must use the standard like eueren

[shy bobcat]

Who are the other flappys 👀

What were their old names

[pine ginkgo]

swap nicht with the object, bell

[ocean robin]

so let me fix my fokken flop

[sudden panther]

Flappton is still the best Flappy.

[pine ginkgo]

don't forget

[ocean robin]

Wenn ich du wäre, würde ich das nicht machen

[shy bobcat]

best flappy is the one that can speak french ❤ inb4 all of them speak it

[ocean robin]

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

the nicht is in front of the thing you want to negate, bell

[sudden panther]

Flapton was fluent in German though. And meme German.

[pine ginkgo]

so... if nicht is at the end of your sentence

[tribal warren]

btw there was no questions about the russian revolution

I was like whaaat

[pine ginkgo]

... what does it negate?

[ocean robin]

^ it was him

[red pewter]

the whole thing

[sudden panther]

Quick. When did the October revolution take place?

[pine ginkgo]

eh.

[whole rapids]

it negates the verb

[tribal warren]

2017 is 100 years after the russian revolution

[ocean robin]

1917 yup

[whole rapids]

I would NOT >DO< that

[tribal warren]

November, Arrem?

[shy bobcat]

@sudden panther Not October.

[ocean robin]

February 1917

[tribal warren]

Yea, so I thought there would be a question about it

[red pewter]

Wenn ich du wäre, würde ich das nicht machen. :?

[tribal warren]

but nah

[pine ginkgo]

just don't place the nicht at the end, bell :)

ye

[whole rapids]

with mistakes resolved

we come to the question

RETRY ZONE?

[ocean robin]

oh yes

[pine ginkgo]

exceeept

[gleaming moth]

Wenn ich du wäre, würde ich das nicht machen.?

[pine ginkgo]

that's okay

but you normally want to negate the verb

[ocean robin]

Nice nickname change btw

[shy bobcat]

@gleaming moth sondern...?

[sudden panther]

Not October is indeed correct!

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

there are some exceptions of course, where you can place the nicht at the end of a sentence

[sudden panther]

Also did it take you this long to notice your nick change?

[ocean robin]

Let's do the retry zonr then sleep

yes

[pine ginkgo]

mainly for main clauses without infitive and without prepositions

Ich gehe nicht -> I am not going

[shy bobcat]

To be honest I don't even register flappy nick changes anymore

it has foxes and starts with fl

[pine ginkgo]

Ich gehe nicht nach Hause -> I am not going home

[shy bobcat]

🤷

[sudden panther]

Good to know. Next time I'll just change it to Flentong.

[ocean robin]

NO

NO

[whole rapids]

PHASE 1 - HYPOTHETICAL
Translate: We would not do that, if we were y'all

[red pewter]

😄

[pine ginkgo]

y'all lol

[shy bobcat]

y'all

howdy

[tribal warren]

Arrem

[sudden panther]

If you get that correctly I won't make you Flentong. There.

[tribal warren]

Do you approve my new avatar pic?

[sudden panther]

So pay extra attention!

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo it's not even funny bc that's how I'd speak 😅

[pine ginkgo]

still funny

[sudden panther]

I do Broggo. ❤

[whole rapids]

southerners with them strange speaks

[tribal warren]

❤

[shy bobcat]

Y'all need a stop discriminat'n against us

[pine ginkgo]

don't forget teeeis

we learned you = du and y'all = ihr

[whole rapids]

laber mich nicht von der Seite an

[shy bobcat]

aye

[pine ginkgo]

gut gelernt, pferd!

[shy bobcat]

That's how I teach it too when someone asks for an explanation

[pine ginkgo]

there was someone here who proclaimed it's the correct translation

because you = du and you = ihr was too confusing

[shy bobcat]

yeah probably

[ocean robin]

Er würde das nicht machen, wenn wir ihr waren

🤔

[shy bobcat]

WAREN

[sudden panther]

Well.

[shy bobcat]

IN THE KONJ II SECTION

[sudden panther]

You're Flentong now.

[pine ginkgo]

flops died again

[ocean robin]

"If we were you"

pls

[whole rapids]

FLOPS HAS DIED

[shy bobcat]

KONJ II

[pine ginkgo]

LOL

NICE ENGLISH FLOPS

[sudden panther]

we
er

[gleaming moth]

Wir würden das nicht machen, wenn wir ihr wären. ?

[pine ginkgo]

really flops, it would help

[red pewter]

Wir würden das nicht machen, wenn wir ihr wären

[pine ginkgo]

if you were less sassy

[ocean robin]

I AM SORRY BUT

[pine ginkgo]

about this

[whole rapids]

CBELL HAS DIED

JK

[ocean robin]

also yep I just saw that

[whole rapids]

CBELL LIVES

[red pewter]

phew!

[ocean robin]

rip me but

[sudden panther]

FLENTONG DIES.

[ocean robin]

I am really confused atm

[whole rapids]

FLOPS

WHAT DID THE TOME TEACH YOU

[shy bobcat]

What tense have we been practicing this whole time?

[ocean robin]

Why is the "if we were you" konj II?

[whole rapids]

ABOUT KONJ II

[ocean robin]

🤔

[whole rapids]

oh maybe you don't know English subjunctive

[shy bobcat]

@ocean robin Because it's a hypothetical situation

[ocean robin]

Yeah but

[whole rapids]

flops

if I were you

am I you?

[ocean robin]

yeah

[whole rapids]

what?

no

[pine ginkgo]

if + past is mostly always konj 2

[whole rapids]

I am not you

[ocean robin]

no but you have to use preterite 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

you should read about conditional sentences flaps

[ocean robin]

I was taught that

[whole rapids]

in German?

who taught you that?

[ocean robin]

In French/English, yah.

If I were you, I would X.

[whole rapids]

we're not learning those languages

[ocean robin]

:(

[shy bobcat]

@ocean robin I were isn't the preterite

you meme

[whole rapids]

TRY AGAIN

[ocean robin]

the heck

I MUST SLEEP

[whole rapids]

DIG LIVES ALSO BTW

[gleaming moth]

...

yeah i was wondering about that

[ocean robin]

Well I died

[whole rapids]

Flops muss jetzt endlich ins Bett gehen

[tribal warren]

You have been slain

[pine ginkgo]

you should read up on the conditional sentence types again flops

when you have time

in english

[ocean robin]

@shy bobcat Maybe I am referring to French here too, I am confused as fuck between those languages 🤔

[whole rapids]

to be fair, it's like a C1 subject

[ocean robin]

no

not at all

A2

[whole rapids]

subjunctive in English?

[ocean robin]

yup

[pine ginkgo]

we had it pretty early in school

i think in my third year?

[whole rapids]

with "were" and that too?

[pine ginkgo]

or fourth year

[ocean robin]

I mean,, you say "if I had money I would X"

Had is preterite

[whole rapids]

surprised tbh, many native speakers don't even use it

[pine ginkgo]

which should correspond to be about A2/b1

[ocean robin]

🤔

[shy bobcat]

I mean, no one uses subjunctives correctly in english

[whole rapids]

no, it's still subjunctive

[shy bobcat]

since they only really are distinct in one place

to be

[ocean robin]

I was taught wront then D:

Good nighto y'all.

[whole rapids]

goodnight

[shy bobcat]

I'd honestly unironically say "if I was you" is better (modern) English than "if I were you" strictly speaking based on how people speak

[whole rapids]

I always use the latter

might be a regional thing

[shy bobcat]

I don't.

[pine ginkgo]

me too

if i was you feels wrong to me

for some reason

[shy bobcat]

where's pferd from tho

[pine ginkgo]

from the plains

[whole rapids]

PHASE 2 - POLITENESS
Translate: I would like a Döner.

[shy bobcat]

maybe this is another one of those "omg them silly americans forgot how to talk"

[pine ginkgo]

eh, it matters not too much imo

though i could be wrong

[red pewter]

Ich würde gern einen Döner

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo *doesn't

[pine ginkgo]

nope bell

[whole rapids]

CBELL HAS LOST A LIFE

[shy bobcat]

"I would gladly a döner"

[pine ginkgo]

no ari

that was fancy shit speak

[shy bobcat]

oh it was intentional

😄

[red pewter]

aww. I totally felt okay about that

[whole rapids]

look up verb for "to like"

[red pewter]

it's mögen

[whole rapids]

correct

[shy bobcat]

@whole rapids ich bin ein Döner mit alles und scharf

[whole rapids]

now use your wisdom

[red pewter]

fine fine

[whole rapids]

DÖNER MACHT SCHÖNER

[shy bobcat]

Dönerstag

[red pewter]

Ich möchte einen Döner bitte 😄

[whole rapids]

CBELL HAS RECOVERED

[red pewter]

why have I heard people say würde gern then :?

[shy bobcat]

alone like that?

🤔

[whole rapids]

dunno, refer to native

[pine ginkgo]

because it's incomplete

and you remember incorrectly

if that's everything that you have heard

[red pewter]

no, I genuinelly think that's it

[shy bobcat]

you can say würde gerne and then a verb

[red pewter]

it's "i would like TO"

[shy bobcat]

"I would like to a döner".

[red pewter]

so I basically said "I would like to a döner" lamo

[placid heath]

Das alles
Und noch viel mehr!
Würd ich machen
Wenn ich Döner in Deutschlaaand wääär.

[shy bobcat]

Like "ich würde gerne meinen Döner essen, ohne dass du mich alle 5 Sekunden anlaberst, bitte 😡" yeah that's good German (afaik ) but "ich würde gerne einen Döner" no

[whole rapids]

DIG HAS DISCONNECTED?

[gleaming moth]

was

Ne, bin noch hier

[whole rapids]

attempt sentence

[red pewter]

i may be wrong, but at least I answer 😄

[pine ginkgo]

yeah, good german, teeeis

[whole rapids]

points for speed

[placid heath]

Ari

More like

[pine ginkgo]

pluspunkt für das bitte am ende

[shy bobcat]

Technically @pine ginkgo würde could then be construed as "konj ii of werden as in become" right?

[placid heath]

Alter, ich will meinen Döner essen also halt die Fresse und sieh zu dass du Land gewinnst (not sooo formal)

[shy bobcat]

so "I would gladly become a döner" with bad grammar

[pine ginkgo]

eh

if you want to think of it liek that

[shy bobcat]

I did say technically

[pine ginkgo]

sure

[whole rapids]

Ich würde einen Döner werden.

[pine ginkgo]

wrong

[shy bobcat]

Also I just wanted to be able to say "I would become a döner"

[placid heath]

I become a Döner please.

[shy bobcat]

🤣

[pine ginkgo]

pferd loses teacher points again

[shy bobcat]

EINEN

[pine ginkgo]

PFERD

[whole rapids]

I wasn't being serious

[red pewter]

😄

[pine ginkgo]

i think you are getting flopsed

like krypti

the flopsfection is taking over

[shy bobcat]

@placid heath sure, I could talk like that but

[pine ginkgo]

incubating in the teachers

[shy bobcat]

ehhh

[gleaming moth]

Ich würde gerne einen Satz ausspinnen. ?

[red pewter]

what

[pine ginkgo]

ausspinnen?

[shy bobcat]

ausspinnen 🤔

[placid heath]

🕷

[gleaming moth]

first result in the dict.cc for think up

[whole rapids]

yes, it's flops disease

no other reason

[pine ginkgo]

eh

[whole rapids]

how would you form it anyway?

[shy bobcat]

even pferd succumbs to the flopsi disease

we had so much hope

😦

[pine ginkgo]

dict.cc is not too good for colloquial speech

sometimes there are pretty cool stuff

but you shouldn't rely on dictionaries for colloquial terms

[placid heath]

Welches Floppo Krankheit

[whole rapids]

DIG HAS CHOSEN TO PLAY ANOTHER GAME

[placid heath]

Diesen Krankheit giebt es garnihct

[shy bobcat]

SIE INFIZIERT AUCH MUTTERSPRACHLER 😱

[pine ginkgo]

krypti has an increased amount of mistakes since he tried to teach flops

[shy bobcat]

Bald gibt's sogar kein Deutsch mehr, wenn Floppo hier bleiben darf!

[gleaming moth]

Ich würde gerne einen Film anschauen ?

[pine ginkgo]

so i fear for you, pferdle

[whole rapids]

PHASE 3 - WISHES WITH MODAL VERBS
Translate: I wish, I could speak German.

[pine ginkgo]

(pferdchen, wann ist die phase mit hätte?) :x

[placid heath]

Ari, was wäre die Lösung? Flops mit einer Mistgabel aus der Stadt verjagen? :P

[whole rapids]

(gleich)

[pine ginkgo]

(cool)

[whole rapids]

I was never good at German in the first place so np 🙃

[pine ginkgo]

flops müsste hier eigentlich sein

[red pewter]

is this one of those that uses dass?

[pine ginkgo]

weil sie sehr gerne hätte statt hatte schrieb

[shy bobcat]

Ich habe eine erhöherte Fehleranzahl gehabt, nachdem ich mit Krypti gesprochen hatte, nachdem er Flops gelehrt hatte.... 😱

[pine ginkgo]

possibly, bell

[shy bobcat]

second hand flops

[whole rapids]

you don't need to use it

[pine ginkgo]

you can also not use dass

[placid heath]

erhöherte

[shy bobcat]

GUCK DOCH MAL

[pine ginkgo]

but there are multiple ways to translate this

[shy bobcat]

DA ISSE

[placid heath]

Sieht immer noch so aus.

[shy bobcat]

FLAPSKRANKHEIT

[placid heath]

Ah.

[shy bobcat]

🦊 😷

[sudden panther]

SCHAU* 😏 🇦🇹

[pine ginkgo]

oh god

nächste woche bist du wieder B, teeeisle

[placid heath]

LUEG* 😏 :flag_baden:

[shy bobcat]

Ja 😱

[pine ginkgo]

wenn das so weiter geht