#general-2
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xD
it's the paraguayan war
I was taking a look at it recently to do some exercises and remembered how much England took a part on it
Oh that's actually another name of it
In portuguese
A guerra da Tríplice Aliança
haha
Solano López was fucking crazy indeed
he put kids to fight
idk it's a pretty straight-forward name tho
since the Tríplice Aliança was Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay
But whenever alliances are mentioned in the name of a war, you can be sure it's a big one.
yea it was pretty big
there was like this estimative
so many paraguayan men died that the woman:men ratio changed drastically
I don't remember what was the percentage
I think they lost somewhere about 330.000 people
about 30.000 of them being men
no wait
I think it was the other way around, nah?
of the leftover people, 30.000 were men
yeah
That's what I meant to say
fucked up
oh yea here
According to some estimates, Paraguay's pre-war population of 525,000 was reduced to 221,000, of which only 28,000 were men
I wasn't too far off. Neat.
nice
at the beginning López was actually winning
but dude he was too crazy to continue after the alliance ganged on him
Do you know what Brazil did to get a strong army back then?
No, but I do know that they blocked all of the rivers so Paragzay couldn't get any supplies through.
If you were a slave and fought the war, you'd be free afterwards
Which was important since Paraguay industrialised the hell out of their country beforehand
Oh yeah, read about that.
yea that too
it had many factors
I guess the most important ones are: buying weapons from england and the slaves one, cause the army was really big
Which was important since Paraguay industrialised the hell out of their country beforehand
I think that's something that was kinda exaggerated in books
comparatively
The war isn't talked about in Europe, definitely not in history class. I think I watched a documentary once that mentioned that.
I see
If you make a comparison with Brazil and Argentina it was pretty big as an industrialization
but some people think it was as big as The Industrial Revolution
No but have to talk to people who can, Arrem.
Oh. What kind of a hole are we even talking about? How do fires make holes in walls? 🤔
it doesn't even come close
Oh, that sucks.
Nothing that an old bedsheet can't fix
dude paracetemol must be candy cause I take them and my headache won't go away D=
(and tons of old newspaper)
Thought it was just a bit of paint and a dent that can be patched up easily haha.
No, they had to cut part of the wall open too to get to the source of the fire
You're fixing a supporting beam with newspaper? 🤔
Ah haha.
@thick charm now your gonna be the person to listen to all my frustated attempts of understanding brazilian history!
jk that might be kinda annoying
I'll stop it
By all means, please do.
LOL
I'd love to listen to you rant about history
what type of human is this
One that doesn't get annoyed by people
Please do!
I prefer br-history instead of european history and world history overall, my friends that like history usually say that I'm crazy but idk why I'm just that way 
I'm not such a history nerd, though, I like more maths and physics
ofc I miss you but okay xD @thick charm
<3
<3
Nice nickname. ^^
(Praise Tolkien.)
(praise Georgy)
Why don't we meet in the middle and agree that the best authors of all time have R.R. in their name?
I'm an author?
yes
hmm
same mistake as bell
I was tagged?
I'm not sure if you know about this stuff yet.
is it comma stuff?
You were but it was a spoiler so I deleted it. ❤
<3
No, it's grammar. Kinda.
oh
should I try more or just wait for Flappy's solution?
cause I'm not sure of it either
flops learned about this
but not sure if she can concentrate on getting it
since she is a bit occupied with other stuff
so you prolly will see the correct sentence
not sure if that actually helps you that much tho
As a hint while we wait for Floops.
to translate isn't, or at least shouldn't be a verb.
Waiting for floops is hard I'm too anxious D=
oh
so "a sentence to translate" is a whole clause
welp
you said: "as usual Floppsy asks Chuck to translate a sentence"
did I?
kinda
your sentence is not correct anyway
so it's hard to pinpoint a correct translation
as arrem said
it's grammatical
yes
Foxxo. You give him a hint without spoiling.
🤷
i don't think berg knows this
so i don't think he will be able to do this on his own
Use zu übersetzen. But make the übersetzen something other than a verb.
In PMs with Chuck.
ah
He didn't want to spoil it for Flooper.
The question is, what does a verb do when it's not verbing?
don't worry about this, berg
I wanna know about it though
Ahahaha. What could a verb become if it's not supposed to be a verb?
A noun?
Yes!
Übersetzung?
That's one way of doing nominalization. But we want a direct verb -> noun.
Übersetzen
Übersetzung would be Translation
Which you do by sticking a das in front of your verb and capitalizing it. Works every time! Fantastic results! Yeah.
zum?
Only zum? 😏
Where did the "Übersetzen" go 
yo C:
zum Übersetzen
yes
or you mean zu with um etw. bitten
Is that good?
It works
what do you mean?
should I do it with um etw. bitten then?
sure
since that is the verb you originall chose
(it shouldn't change anything, if you don't fuck up) :D
Wie üblich bittet Flappy Chuck um einen Satz zum Übersetzen
gut
cause i think you may notice
this um is not the um which would be used in a subordinate clause
:)
bergi
yea
it's from the separable verb
nop?
it's just the preposition for the verb
oh ok then
ok i'll be nice and do that
be nice and not shit all over me if I get it wrong?
:d
ouch
to all low level learners (except Flappy)*
I have something in mind but it's probably wrong
@pine ginkgo Can I use .., dass + (subordinative clause) or is that cheating?
yep
yep?
(you have to, in fact)
übersetzen tust
:P
berg is so smart ❤
so that's correct?
yep
uh no
Ich will, dass du Übersetzen machst ?
hmmm
you need here another noun for "Translation"
yep
Ich will, dass ...
the thing is berg
okay I don't feel A0 anymore, A1 is good now
uuh
action
then you can translate it the same way as my sentence
as in, don't have to change anything
yes
Gotcha
Umd wat?
yeah
how can I continue a sentence "Das Hauptargument dafür ist...." without using a noun
:D
solet :'(
don't expect to do anything you don't know
eh
you can say something like
Das Argument ist, dass du doof bist
what can be really detrimental is having expectations
yay ich dachte, dass man das machen nicht darf
chuck says if i work hard i can reach it this year D:
sure
I just wanted A2 by the end of the year
if you work hard
I'm working my hardest!
I do flashcards everyday
and I'm trying to find my grammar holes
like, that translating sentence made me realize I need to learn all the pronouns in the cases.
So I'll learn those tonight
I thought you were A2 bell
you can always find stuff that you can still improve on
it's important to take notes of the things you are bad with
well last night chuck said I was so I guess I reached that goal :33
I am making a list!
eh
imperatives and reflexive are on there too
my judgement of people's skills is biased anyway :P
we're all A1's in Luna's mind
It's always up to yourself to decide how you see yourself in the early levels
=p
so don't ask me to judge you
A1 and A2 aren't too different
A1-A2 are very hard to differentiate anyway
well luna, where would you put me :?
somewhere after A1
A1.2 :?
and meh speaking of which
what about me
i kinda agree with arrem's assessment a few days ago, flops
if you could be consistent in actually applying your knowledge
you should be very close to B1
or actually B1
I am D:
if you could be consistent
flaps is really good
wait what
but the thing is
you do so many basic mistakes
that's hard to see if you actually learned it properly
or you just randomly got it correct or wrong
like when we ask you for adjective endings
you usually get them all correct
but you can for the love of god not do it on your own
you also learned or... at least got to know some pretty cool grammatical structures for B levels
I used to not fail adjective endings, lately I've been failing em
I need more practice

your problem is just... your application of your knowledge is very irritating
cool bell
oh, and also your dictationary look ups are hilarious
I learned them like last year
I feel like I have a similar issue
Theoretically I know the grammar but in practice I don't
and sagacity
if you learn a grammatical concept, then you can apply it in most cases without many mistakes
Yes sagacity pls.
i get really sad if you get adjective endings incorrectly
cause those things can just be learned
Is flapps still here?
you just ask yourself, is it with or without article, is it a definite or indefinite article
yus
👋 😄
is it singular or plural
and then which case it is
and then you are done with the ending
there's 48 of them though D:
sure
most of them are -en
tries to defend only just learning them
but that's just what you have to learn
hi arizona :33
I don't know whether I'm consistent or not, I don't do enough practice to know I guess
you can say i am affected by learning latin
but prob not
berg what even is your profile pic I just noticed somehow
What do you mean? It's always been the space doggo
german is lenient in comparison
as in, if you do grammatical mistakes, you can still get the meaning of the sentence
oh, and flops is not really good at explaining the things she learned
As for you Floop, your biggest flaw (if we ignore the constant floopsing) is that you absolutely refuse to talk or use the language independently. So it's very hard ot asses your skills or see how much vocabulary you know which is crucial for the A -> B transition.
huh?
Damn just dig into flambé
I'm confused now
i mean, admittedly, it's not easy to get to use german if you are learner
were you talking about me or flopps, Luna?
but it's imperative that you will do
flaps is gonna talk with me this week!
she said we could voice 😄
I see
I mean sure it's hard but that's not = "I should just post
and 👀 in deutsch-only"
cause Arrem then started his sentence with "As for you Flops"
I expect my german to go from A1.2/A2 -----> A--
bell is pretty good at grasping new stuff
thanks Luna ❤
Oh never mind me, I'm just a meme. I was reading what Solet was telling bell and went for the "as for you".
I just want this shit year to end so I can start learning for real
yeah, no worries
it's your decision how much you wanna spend learning and stuff
i'm not telling anyone to hurry up or learning better
... except flops sometimes
Well Bergo currently holds the server record for using only German for the longest time when told that he should only speak in German. He lasted a day.
but like learning german is something that makes me forget a bit about how shitty this year was regarding knowledge
for what arrem likes to see
hahah is that true?
that's why i proposed the daniel challenge originally for daniel
I lasted half a day 🐸
@red pewter The best would be either today or Friday to be honest for voice
we should have a day a month where we can't speak any english!
I am kinda nervous
using the language is a realllly good way to improve
I can do either!
but you said you weren't feeling well, so maybe for your sake friday is better.
I like doing it, but the thing is, if I ever get excited like when I was talking about Hans Zimmer, I can't express myself as well as in english and it just frustates me
I'm nervous too 😄 I sound like a potato
Or if I get cornered in a situation I don't know the verbs and stuff
that's why you learn
i told daniel that
but keep it as motivation
that you want to be able to do that in the future
I knoow
but I'm like in the middle of the conversation saying how great his OST's are
and then I want to add something that's important to me but I can't
let's say you really like his music
and then you try to talk about his music and find out
shit, i don't know the words
but so you wanna learn the words one day
and that's good enough for motivation
what really helps to learn to speak/talk
find something you really want to talk/speak about
that's it
Seriously, I didn't know basic expressions when I joined
this server helps me more than everything else I do I think.
and also lots of vocab too
at the long run this server is really good
cause there are things that I never forget
i don't value vocab really much personally
but if you are bad at looking up stuff in a dictionary, you should value vocab more
I'm not bad at looking stuff up, but I don't want to
yeah :D
but I know a few words that I'm sure I won't forget
vocab is just passive
idk why some random words got stuck in my brain
but grammar....that's active learning
I care about learning vocab bc looking up everythig in a dictionary constantly is time consuming
^ Also you won't be able to do it in a convo
IRL convo
or at least you shouldn't
this is also why my word choice is sometimes ... innovative 
I want to be innovative but I'll butcher the language
it shows you are thinking about it
so I just use the dictionary
manchmal mache ich es zweckhaft um luna zu verärgern 
i remember you liked that word

though tbh
the most i am disappointed in, when dealing with you guys
is when you do the same mistakes over and over again
that's human though
i just like seeing you guys getting better
so it feels stagnant to me, when you do a mistake multiple times over a span of time
i'm sorry 😦
Well, there are some things which we get wrong a lot of times before actually getting it right forever
It feels like that but it isn't
cause there are other things that we would commit mistakes but we don't cause we learned
but, everyone has different ways in how they learn
and i don't want to impose my thoughts on you too much
Honestly I feel like I learn a lot by making the same mistakes
i'll think more about my word order!
At least with other subjects that happens
mhhh
But I understand your disappointment
let's say, it's also different if you make a mistake because you didn't know or because you were just careless
and if you notice it by yourself
like the übersetzt thing
tbh i wanted to rant a bit about that, because i am sure you know that
but you noticed it
and that's what i care about too
you do a mistake, but you notice it
Luna you're a weird dude I'll tell you that
In a positive way
sometimes you just kinda get mad at us regarding german and sometimes you get philosophical and caring about our german
it's pretty funny xd
😄
no clue
spanish level "don't even remember"
that's correct tho
you're too self-conscious about your spanish danish boi
oh actually there's no accent
mi
lel whenever I actually put a serious effort into a spanish sentence it's horribly wrong
but it's 99.99% correct
and then when I don't try it's ok
but yeah, berg
i am a weird guy
i kinda remember a lot of what they have asked about
it's fine you're cool
for the active learners
soooooo
even if some of them don't remember
i sometimes do
I didn't understand a word you just said
i think Luna cares about us in his own way ❤
he does
oh and you remember em
sometimes people forget the stupid questions they asked
oh no pls don't tell me it's -e 
<------
and i don't like that very much
gotcha
I'll try and remember the stupid questions then
nah, it's just me
he.
some people are quite sensitive tho
I know whenever you trash talk you're just mad cause my german is terrible but you don't really mean what you say so its all good
in Brazil it's common courtesy to trash talk each other
it's not that your german is terrible
porra
more that YOU SHOULD FUCKING KNOW IT
😮
😮
y'know
yea
I'm on all the trash-talk lists.
in Brazil it's common courtesy to trash talk each other
I'm all for that practice. You suck Berg. ❤
Chuck you suck

that rhymd
but that's cause we love you, mikuh
I don't suck Berg
whatever, though
Aww. 💙
@thick charm You don't suck that was merely an example
cause teeeis thought for a while that i didn't like him at all
nah it's fine
chocc soccs
i just like being taught.
I know you don't hate me cause you ask for portuguese memery
you wouldn't if you hated me
I fucking hate you guys for being such cool people I need to study for Uni but this discord is too good for my own good

rip 😄
but now is fine cause I actually got to study today
it's really fun to see how people get better
i know i memed about teeeis taking his C role
but he really improved
my german level is a meme
I feel like if I actually start talking german in VC with natives I can improve exponentially
but that's something for the future
probably
since it was basically determined by korea saying "lol u gud"
I need to voice chat
Nah, only your choice of words is, Ari.
i am an advocate for more talking for every learner though
my listening skills are BAD
not really
someone can say something like "what's your name" and i'll be like, langsam, bitte ?!?
you have the cutest questions about german
Botrekt.
cutest question :?
We should all join voice chat right now
i'll do it.
When Bell? Friday?
flaps, bed.
okay :^<
I get out of class at 2, flaps
Do it Chocc.
Voice chat party?
@pine ginkgo Who has the cutest questions about german?
voice voice voice
Can we do it tomorrow?
sure
are like "THERE ARE CASES?"
I'd be down
voice chat party
"THERE ARE CASES AND GENDERS?"
Tommorow plox
Hallowien party. 
I will talk to friends ❤
@pine ginkgo oh but those are just like really basic ones
i know
I mean like having a conversation with someone like me
but they are so cute
I'll try to show up tomorrow
must be frustating
I always chuckle a bit when someone comes and unironically uses B for ß.
Can't promise anything yet
oh yeah
like waiting 4 hours for me to say "Today I ate spaghetti, it was really good" (exaggerating but you know what I mean)
ich heiBe Chocc
you all made fun of me for days
I remember it
because I didn't know there was a capital ß
What's a der die das??? 😄
Yeah but we do that with everyone
yep
We make fun of everyone
yep
Chuck you'll love Brazil then
piece of shit
you don't even know how much brazilians do that to each other
mocking each other is our best talent
I hate Luna and Chuck.
🖕 ❤
Arrem is the worst. ❤
mikuh is the best 💟
You meme, everyone knows Mika is the worst 💙
Sometimes when I see that Mika is around, I don't even wanna say hi. ❤
but seriously, don't you have to be really patient to have a conversation with someone with my german level?
We'd just talk over you
basic german is reaaaaaallly easy to grasp and to "auto-complete"
I'd have to think a lot to make a good sentence
We were patient with Floop doing math. I'm pretty sure we're qualified, Bergo.
True
your accents are the worst though
My weakness is people that think that have good language skills but have terrible language skills
Eh, even a shitty accent doesn't take more than 15 minutes to get used to. Unless it's reaaally shitty. And it probably isn't.
my microphone is ok so I'm all good
Ami-R verstärkt sich
yeah my accent is bad 😦 anytime I try to say anything to my german friend the reesponse is "huh"
Is my accent shitty?
bad accents as in "this is a german word, but i don't know how to pronounce german, so i use my native accent"
I can't make an r sound to save my life
some people only ever learn to write german
so I've just used an english r 😦
Take my Japanese Übungsleiter. In the first Übung I struggled to understand the dude because "was" became "what", "ch" were "k" or "sch" and what not. But after a little while you get used to it and now I can understand the dude effortlessly.
wee gates dear
shhhh
hahaha
You also sound really good Ari
from the readings we did
D: i don't wanna speak anymore
He's shy, Luna
he eyed me
I bet he screamed "OF COURSE I'M BETTER" irl.
also tbh
if i hear a good accent from you
i automatically deal with you less harshly
Daniel also sounds pretty good
If he hears a good accent, he buys you a puppy.
alright how to gain luna's love: talk more. got it
daniel has probably the best accent from anyone from a non-germanic language
oh that's why you're so harsh to me 
If he hears a bad accent, he also buys you a puppy but he shoots it afterwards.
is english not daniel's mother tongue 🤔
haha
and i dont want to fix it
fix it.
no
you suck.
you don't have any power over me
"Daniel is ok" - Luna, 2017
there I fixed it
Fuck that's true
😉
sure
ok nvm I have 0 power
doggo* pls
what do you mean?
cause he'd kick your ass?
cause i ask you for portuguese memes
sure
aah
yo if you wanna meme him up
make jokes about his whey protein
and him eating acarajé
haha
curious what that sounds like in german
>ban SoletLuna being a big meme
User SoletLuna has been memed for "being a big meme". ✅
none of the french people i know
"a Frenchie" read as "flappy"
OH YOU DID THE CHANGE ARREM
have managed to "lose" their french accent when speaking german
Now you just gotta replaced the User for Flappy
No I just faked it. 
oh
but that's something i really would like to see one day
it was quick
also french accents are just funny, though
I love french accents
not like dutch accent funny
will be curious to hear it on friday
French accents are halfway between hilarious and sexy
tomorrow's thursday tho
wait what
Also known as the perfect balance
:?
A strong French accent in English makes me want to off myself.
oh
cause they're past 00
what if we join VC now?
nah
I'm too shy for that shit
a strong french accent is still understandable for german tho
VC makes me uncomfy though
I sound like a potato
me too
for english it's... pretty hard imo
😦 but I want to be your friend too 😦
english pronounciation is a mess anyway
JOOOOIN ME
You're my friend
:(
Join Chuck bell
what is going on in voice chat?
voicing
my german is horrible, i am afraid
we are speaking english
oh, interesante
maybe i will just listen
sorry, i muted it for a second
so it won't do that
Bis zur Unendlichkeit und noch viel weiter!
okay
I’m watching my favorite Disney movies in German. I’d never heard that line before in German
Even English dubbed anime can be pretty mortifying
it's not because it's bad
it's because you watch 4 German dubbed Anime and had 3 times he Same voice actor
I see. Well for now I’m going to stick with things I know very well from childhood. Beggars can’t be choosers
unless you let them choose if they want a Ham of cheeseburger from McDonals and then buy them one :)
Haha what?
someone find me avatar in german k thanks
IT HAPPENED FOLKS
Hmm?
avatar in german @opal sequoia ❤
chuck gave it to me 😄
I can understand a lot at half speed
but not a lot at full speed 😄
avatar im Deutsch?
ja!
Ich brauche, gebst du mich?
sicher 😄
vielen Dank!
kein Problem!
Oh cool.
This confused me but you meant the movie Avatar in German?
I see. Still cool. Enjoy. I’m watching stuff in German too.
what are you watching?
Schatten vom Found übernehmen.
Disney movies from my childhood. Movies that I know super well so it’s easier to translate the words I don’t know
Wie soll das bedeuten?
Um der Wahrheit willen hat Flops die Katze aus der Tasche hinausgelassen.
@viscid cape I move here. I have some problems on that sentence to be fair, which are:
- The "for truth's sake" really intrigues me. Is willen a verb in this case? Because in dict.cc it's not capitalised and it's pretty weird because it doesn't say it's a verb.
- and for hinauslassen, I am not really sure about it either... "to let sb. out" and "to let sth. out" isn't the same thingo, but let's say that the cat is someone in this case 🤷
I'm not sure if it's originally a verb, but it works as a compound preposition. Um ___ willen
And cases too 🤔 thought the cat was first Dat and then saw that the bag is also Dat so I think the catto is Akk
uh
Yes, I think you could use that verb in this case
You did
Try another word for bag though, I meant bag as in sack 
ah 
yes, um + gen + willen is correct. Your version is good.
Der Sack? 
Good
Translating idioms, I see. ^^
Um der Wahrheit willen hat Flops die Katze aus dem Sack hinausgelassen. Like that?
Yes
In this case it's literal though
Yes, the idiom is just "lassen", but that works well.
Wait... is it Akk?
You can answer that
I mean the cat goes away from the sack if I know the meaning of let out 🤔
or maybe it's the opposite
let me search a bit
Okay it's Akk, because the cat goes away from the sack
So then the cat is Dat
For the prepositions which can have the 2 cases?
Like if I remember correctly aus is among them
You don't remember correctly
Yes
Maybe I am confused between aus and auf D:
It could be
So yeah
The sack is Dat
And the cat is Akk
Um der Wahrheit willen hat Flops die Katze aus dem Sack hinausgelassen. So we were here.
Yes, it's correct

👏
I am on fire today 
I think you need to get the bible quotes out, Krypti. 😛
^

Translate this, Flappy: And God said unto John: "Come forth and receive eternal life." But John came fifth and won a toaster.
YES
aJAFASJKDF
"But John came fifth and won a toaster" lol what 
Actually, I have an idea. Chica, would you like to give Flappy a sentence to translate? ^^
OHHHH WHAT AN HONOR
:O
LET ME THINK OF ONE
"Do you ever feel like a plastic bag, drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?"
K then translate it.
Arrem I love you.
Bad Flooper. No mmlols. Only German.
Okay :^<
@sudden panther 😂
Thanks. ❤ I'll make sure to screenshot that and remind you of what you said the next time that I piss you off. 😏
"B***** A** N**** I AM OUT" - Flops, 2017
Never forgetti.
nice markdown
[sic]
Markdown? 🤔
Nur Deutsch aktiviert
It's supposed to be like that. I escaped the *s.
I have to. They're censoring *s. Censoring Floop's dirty words.
Flopps Beleidigungen
How about "How can you see into my eyes like open doors, leading me back into my core where I've become so numb, without a soul. My spirit's sleeping somewhere cold until you find it there, and lead it back home."
oh my
SAVE MEE
Fühlst du jemals wie eine Plastiktüte, treibt gegen den Wind dahin, will nochmal beginnen?
dahintreiben, I feel like this is so wrong 
Leading you down.
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
wtf is that sentence
How about "How can you see into my eyes like open doors, leading me back into my core where I've become so numb, without a soul. My spirit's sleeping somewhere cold until you find it there, and lead it back home."
But it has to be translated using Goofy's voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLYl4fM8yk
LOL
Anyways Floop, you flooped the one up there.
🤔
Where though. That verb? 
Everywhere. 
Woooow.
Every single word is wrong, Flappy.
Just kidding.
oh god 