general-2

[hot cloak]

I should tho

since when you listen to people's opinions

[ocean robin]

Depends, huh.

[hot cloak]

study hard

[ocean robin]

My psychologist said so, I think she is trustworthy

Since I had that bad math in math, I am studying like crazy

[hot cloak]

study hard or flog yourself

and you will be the new coolest mathematician who speaks german

[ocean robin]

😎

[hot cloak]

don't flopp your future

flopp

[ocean robin]

I am doing all I can for that doesn't happen

Would be sad otherwise 😦

[hot cloak]

now you have to sleep

[ocean robin]

Yeaaah 😦

[hot cloak]

you're probably tired

sleep well

[ocean robin]

I don't know why I am feeling sadder lately, maybe because of the math test 🤔

[hot cloak]

@ocean robin My last grade in math was 2.5/20 so don't worry there will be worse than you, always

I'm going to sleep too

[valid ice]

dors bien

[ocean robin]

4.5/20 in the math test I had 😢

[hot cloak]

You see

It's better than me

[ocean robin]

When I saw that I instantly cried in the middle of the class

[hot cloak]

oh

[ocean robin]

Flops in a nutshell.

[hot cloak]

Do you want to go in Première S?

[ocean robin]

People tried so hard to cheer me up, but that didn't work

HELL YEAH I WANT TO

[viscid cape]

Floppo don't feel so bad about it. I also had the worst presentation amongst everyone last friday.

[ocean robin]

😦

[viscid cape]

It feels horrible. But it's over and you have the chance to make it different next time.

[hot cloak]

I don't, so I can don't care about my math grades

[viscid cape]

Watch KA videos, talk to us and you'll do better next time.

[ocean robin]

Still, you should though, because it can break your average mark, Faustin.

[hot cloak]

True

But it's so hard

[ocean robin]

Okay, I'll try to move on on that... even if I have still told anyonr about this IRL and that's why it still hurts. I need someone to talk about this or I don't know. One of my relatives at least.

[valid ice]

All of maths is just practice Faustin ^^

[viscid cape]

Cant you talk to your parents?

Monsieur Flappeur and Mademoiselle Floppis

[valid ice]

Flappeur and Flappeuse

[ocean robin]

I can, but I am really really afraid about their reactions

[viscid cape]

I think they'll appreciate it that you had the courage to tell them

[ocean robin]

That blocks me a lot when it comes to bad marks :/

[viscid cape]

They'll probably reprehend you, but also stimulate you

One thing doesn't exclude the other

When you do talk to them, tell us how it goes

[ocean robin]

I'll try...

My father would understand sure; but mother

[viscid cape]

Why don't you tell your daddy first

Maybe he can help you about telling mom later

[ocean robin]

...They are divorced.

There's no way my dad would tell her, since they hate each other. >_>

[hot cloak]

What your mother could do?

[sudden panther]

All these kids being of have psychologist! Back in 1963 when I was a young man in Motherland, when I have issue, my mother is just beat me up and say "how about you stop doing that, Dimitri?!?!?!??" and I am stop, for fear of being beat again.

[hot cloak]

Good times

[viscid cape]

😂

Even if your dad doesn't tell her, he can help you

Help you decide whaty ou should do

[ocean robin]

She would do a deep speech on "well you want to do medecinal speeches so you need to excel at math" and then she would throw maths at me every minutes until I would get disguised of maths, and I don't want that 😦

[sudden panther]

Medicinal speeches? 🤔

[hot cloak]

You want to do medicinal speeches or she wants you to do medecinal speeches?

[ocean robin]

sorry, mdecinal studies. Phone is deeping.

[hot cloak]

lol

[sudden panther]

I love it when my phone deeps.

[ocean robin]

And it's actually me who wants to do medicianl studies.

Aaaarg, derping!

[sudden panther]

Well in any case, you do need to be good at math. So do take the opportunity to improve and catch up while you still have the time.

[ocean robin]

okay phone, I give up.

That's what I am going to do, Arrem.

[viscid cape]

patspats

I should stop patting

It's becoming an addiction 🤔

[ocean robin]

I need to sleep and get better.

It's almost 2 AM.

[sudden panther]

Yes. Yes it is. Go to sleep.

[viscid cape]

Good night, Fluppy.

[ocean robin]

See you tommorow, everyone.

[sudden panther]

Tomorrow? Tomorrow is in like 22 hours.

[ocean robin]

Good point.

[hot cloak]

this lecture was amazing. I had a dream.

[shy bobcat]

@hot cloak what was that about "Konsonantenverbindung"?

[hot cloak]

i have no clue what it means

i just learned the alphabet and thats thrown at me

its like throwing tweedehandsemotorverkoopsmannevakbondstakingsvergaderingsameroeperstoespraakskrywerspersverklaringuitreikingsmediakonferensieaankondiging at a new afrikaans speaker

lol

[shy bobcat]

wot

👀

[opal sequoia]

Nice.

[shy bobcat]

Konsonantenverbindung means "consonant cluster" iirc

[lost dagger]

I found this

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Konsonantenverbindung

[shy bobcat]

like str in strength is a Konsonantenverbindung

[opal sequoia]

So what languages do you speak aside from German, ghostie? English and Afrikaans?

[hot cloak]

english, afrikaans, a year of failed french, dutch to an extent, and a few nifty swear words from swahili

thats about it

[opal sequoia]

Makes sense.

[hot cloak]

the sentence structure is almost identical to german, so i can hard translate with it being almost completely accurate

the reason i failed french is because of gendered words

and thats

a problem here too

[opal sequoia]

Yeah.

How much does Afrikaans differ from English and German, ghostie?

[shy bobcat]

Afrikaans is more like Dutch than either of those ^^

[opal sequoia]

Well, yeah.

[hot cloak]

ek is n' bietjie moeg -> Ich bin ein bisschen müde

some sentences i understand when written down

but the accent, i dont understand when it is spoken whatsoever

[opal sequoia]

Interesting.

[shy bobcat]

🤔

[lost dagger]

I just heard this exchange in the library "Do you make money when you work?" "Yeah"

[opal sequoia]

lol

[hot cloak]

konsonanterverbindung

[shy bobcat]

tschaschtschin

I like it

[hot cloak]

thats not how the names are being translated

[shy bobcat]

wut

[hot cloak]

it would be Chashin

or smth like this

Tchaschin

[shy bobcat]

Chashchin would be the English transliteration

[hot cloak]

ah ya

[shy bobcat]

Tschaschtschin tho 😓

😍

[hot cloak]

Schischkosuschilschtschik

[shy bobcat]

😩 😍

[hot cloak]

Schtschutschinsk

^small city in Russia

how to translate to first one I don't know

mb nuts dryer

:thinking:

[ancient spade]

Yeah, russian really wouldn't work with the (standard 😏 ) Latin alphabet

[shy bobcat]

it would with diacritics and things 😏

Ćaśćin
Śiśkosuśilśćik
Śćućinsk

etc

@ancient spade 😉

[ancient spade]

Hahaha

[shy bobcat]

I saw your edit

😉

[ancient spade]

That's the idea 😄

Meh, I still like cyrillic though

[shy bobcat]

tbh I’m pretty sure what I wrote is what polish already does

more or less

[opal sequoia]

Cześć.

[ancient spade]

👀

[opal sequoia]

Co słychać? 😄

[ancient spade]

Не понимаю тебя :(

Кокой язык это?

[shy bobcat]

ich spreche leider keines davon ^^ 😦

[ancient spade]

Ich auch nicht, kenne nur ein paar Sachen 😅

Hm, hätte ich kein "nicht" benutzen sollen?

[shy bobcat]

Doch, ich auch nicht 👍

[ancient spade]

Ah ok 😄

[opal sequoia]

It was just some Polish as demonstration of Arizona's point.

Cześć would be like, I guess, "Tscheschtsch".

[ancient spade]

I see

[opal sequoia]

Although the cz and ć are different and I don't know how that compares to the German or Russian.

But I guess that's not relevant for this point.

[ancient spade]

Yeah, I guess so

And I should probably sleep haha

Good night everyone

[opal sequoia]

Sleep well!

Thanks for chatting.

You're fun to talk to Macaco.

[ancient spade]

It was a pleasure

You too

:smile:

[hot cloak]

@ocean robin

are you ready to translate sentences

[ocean robin]

YES YES

[hot cloak]

ok let me think

on the outskirts of the city in one of the worst bars I sat alone and listened attentively as my best friend sang on stage while the others were having fun and dancing. I felt terrible because he sang as badly as this place was, and everyone knew that this drunk dude was my friend.

ma englo ist rily bed tho

i hope i wrote it correctly

[ocean robin]

👀

I think there are verb tense errors though

[opal sequoia]

Yes.

[hot cloak]

base can you correct my mistakes

[ocean robin]

Like "[...]listened attentively as my best friend sang"

And is this the only one?

I could only see this one.

Oh wait.

"He sang as badly as this place was bad"

[opal sequoia]

in one of the worst bars, I sat You need this comma. But also, one of the worst bars [in the city] or one of the worst bars [I've ever seen] or so on; that phrase sounds unfinished if you don't have something else there.

[ocean robin]

Delete the bad, because the comparison you made already implies that this place and the boy is bad.

[opal sequoia]

Nuh, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

Huh?

[opal sequoia]

You need the bad.

[ocean robin]

Why?

[hot cloak]

base can you rewrite it pls?

[opal sequoia]

Otherwise it's He sang as badly as this place was badly.

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

He sang as badly as this place was definitely sounds weird, sorry. 😄

[ocean robin]

You can't say "he sang as bad as this place (was)"?

oh okay

[opal sequoia]

His singing was as bad as this place (was) would work.

[ocean robin]

Oh yeah.

[opal sequoia]

Anyway foxxo. You should give Flappy simpler sentences. I mean, they can be tricky, but do like one sentence at a time instead. At least, I would recommend that.

[hot cloak]

hm

let her try this

[ocean robin]

What you wrote? 👀

[hot cloak]

i dont think it is so difficult

[opal sequoia]

Okay, sure.

[ocean robin]

It would've better if I were on computer lel

Let's try this

[hot cloak]

on the outskirts of the city in one of the worst bars i've ever seen I sat alone and listened attentively as my best friend sang on stage while the others were having fun and dancing. I felt terrible because he sang as bad as this place was bad, and everyone knew that this drunk dude was my friend.

[opal sequoia]

worst bars i've ever seen

[ocean robin]

I even don't know what the outskirts of the city are

The suburbs? The countryside?

[opal sequoia]

I felt terrible because he sang as badly as this place was badly This is wrong though, sorry. I gave that just as an example to Flappy of why it doesn't make sense.

[hot cloak]

?

[ocean robin]

Scroll up. ^^

[hot cloak]

now it's correct

or wat

[opal sequoia]

Eh, I'd just keep it the way it was originally.

Assuming it translates nicely to German.

Then it doesn't matter if it sounds a bit weird in English.

[ocean robin]

I need to go for a sec.

[toxic urchin]

Day 3590368450697 : still no sign of flopsel

[hot cloak]

@ocean robin

[pallid kelp]

I... think it actually looks cool

[ocean robin]

MAGNIFICENT

[ocean robin]

``on the outskirts of the city in one of the worst bars i've ever seen I sat alone and listened attentively as my best friend sang on stage while the others were having fun and dancing. I felt terrible because he sang as bad as this place was bad, and everyone knew that this drunk dude was my friend.

Am Rande der Stadt in einen die schlechtesten Gittern habe ich immer gesehen, ich habe allein gesetzt und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freunf auf der Bühne gesunges hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.``
That was difficult, Foxxo 👀

[pine ginkgo]

lol

[ocean robin]

I bet there is a bunch of flops over there

[pine ginkgo]

about 10 or so mistakes

[ocean robin]

Mhm, thought so

[pine ginkgo]

some small flopsings

[ocean robin]

"Small"

There's one sentence though, I know there is a lot

uh which one again

[pine ginkgo]

and... uh some... creative dictionary look ups

[ocean robin]

"he sang as bad as this place was bad" I know there I was like... confused about this one

[pine ginkgo]

well you nearly have that correct tho

i dont have much time atm tho

[ocean robin]

wot seriously

[pine ginkgo]

so i hope base and foxxo can help you out

[ocean robin]

It's okay though Solet. You can go doing your stuff, I bet it's more important than correctinf my flops. :D

[pallid kelp]

I would have written in one of the worst bars i've ever seen that as in einen der schlechtesten Gittern, die ich je gesehen hatte 🤔

[ocean robin]

Oh, Berzi can help, I think.

[pallid kelp]

don't rely too much on me, I flöps a lot myself

[pine ginkgo]

i just wanna nap :D

also

the worst mistake is Gitter

[ocean robin]

lel I swear

[opal sequoia]

Gitter.

Do you know what a bar is in this context, Flappy?

In the translation foxxo gave you.

[pallid kelp]

I didn't bother looking up the term xD

[hot cloak]

gitter lmao

[opal sequoia]

I wouldn't have either, but... we weren't the ones translating. 😶

[pallid kelp]

I was more interested in the je gesehen hatte part

which I think should fit very well here 🤔

[hot cloak]

berzi

delete

dat

now

she shouldn't see it

🔪

[opal sequoia]

It's okay, there are plenty of worse mistakes to work with.

[ocean robin]

Dunno Base, that's the first word I saw, so I picked it

[hot cloak]

,die ich je gesehen habe

dann

[ocean robin]

But a bar where you drink and stuff?

[hot cloak]

Not hatte

[pallid kelp]

yeah, you're right

[opal sequoia]

You should at least check the meaning though, for words like this, Flappy.

Since you know there are a lot of meanings for bar in English.

[ocean robin]

N-no I don't

[hot cloak]

[opal sequoia]

I can think of at least 4 and at least 2 of them you should know.

[ocean robin]

Well I can see the bar when you drink, sure, but I don't remember the others

[hot cloak]

well doesn't matter

🤔

find the right translation

[opal sequoia]

What about a bar like a metal bar?

[ocean robin]

I feel like I know them though, so when you will say it I will feel dumb 😦

Ooooh!

[hot cloak]

choco bar

[opal sequoia]

And bar is not only the building where you drink, but also the name of the counter itself where the drinks are served.

Oh yeah, candy bar I forgot too.

[hot cloak]

status bar

[opal sequoia]

And then there's also the "bar" which means to exclude/ban someone.

Anyway.

[pallid kelp]

it's basically a term for straight things you can sometimes put stuff on

[viscid cape]

pats Floppo good morning

[pallid kelp]

which is very ambiguous

[opal sequoia]

The moral of this story is that you should check your words.

Try typing Gitter into the dict.cc and tell me what you get, Flappy.

[hot cloak]

she will get bar

[ocean robin]

But was this translation a good try, at least?

[hot cloak]

yes

[ocean robin]

Hey Krypti.

This kappa makes me afraid lel

[opal sequoia]

Mmm, I think there are some mistakes you should know better, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

The heck are all those words?

[hot cloak]

damn floppsel, bar = die Bar

[ocean robin]

I must admit that I only know 2 of them

[hot cloak]

das wars

[ocean robin]

SERIOUSLY WHY IS IT THAT SIMPLE

[hot cloak]

😉

I dunno you can say Biergarten

Lokal

but Bar is ok

[ocean robin]

I hava already heard of Lokal, why didn't I think about it

[hot cloak]

I'm not sure about Biergarten tho

[opal sequoia]

It's okay, Flappy. The vocab stuff is not such a big deal.

[hot cloak]

cause it's only german thingo

[opal sequoia]

But the grammar...

[pine ginkgo]

dont say Biergarten

[ocean robin]

But I swear sme stuff grammar in there confused me

[opal sequoia]

Let's just look at the first sentence first, I guess.

[hot cloak]

on the outskirts of the city in one of the worst bars i've ever seen I sat alone and listened attentively as my best friend sang on stage while the others were having fun and dancing. I felt terrible because he sang as bad as this place was bad, and everyone knew that this drunk dude was my friend.

Am Rande der Stadt in einen die schlechtesten Gittern habe ich immer gesehen, ich habe allein gesetzt und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freunf auf der Bühne gesunges hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.
That was difficult, Foxxo eyes

let's laugh one more time

[ocean robin]

That was difficult, Foxxo eyes

[hot cloak]

so rewrite the first part of the first sentence

[ocean robin]

oki

[viscid cape]

I like the idea of torturing Flappo in her day off 🤔

[ocean robin]

Am Rande der Stadt in einen die schlechtesten Lokalen habe ich immer gesehen, ich habe allein gesetzt und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freunf auf der Bühne gesunges hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

You can torture me anytime

Not when I sleep though

[hot cloak]

einen die schlechtesten Lokalen

[ocean robin]

yeah this one too

[hot cloak]

this is beautiful

[ocean robin]

Einen den?

"one of the bars"

[hot cloak]

die/das/der Lokal

???

[ocean robin]

Das?

[hot cloak]

so why do you use "einen"

[ocean robin]

brah

einem das?

looks weird as hell

[hot cloak]

so let's think floppsel

the verb - sitzen (Wo?)

[ocean robin]

Yeah, dative

[hot cloak]

so what case do you need

??

right

"one of the worst bars"

how would you translate it

[ocean robin]

uh

[hot cloak]

you need genitive here

[ocean robin]

WHAT

SINCE WHEN

And where...?

[viscid cape]

You need 👻 genitive 👻

[hot cloak]

think

[ocean robin]

Eines des schlechtestes Lokal? I have no idea but thay seems wrong

[hot cloak]

ok

it is one of the worst bars

das ist ....

[ocean robin]

uh

[hot cloak]

do you put subject in genitive

[ocean robin]

First why don't we put Lokal in yhe plural form?

[opal sequoia]

Who said you don't?

[hot cloak]

we do put

[ocean robin]

ugh shoot

So *Lokale first

And it's die Lokale

[hot cloak]

and genitive now

[ocean robin]

der Lokale

[hot cloak]

translate "of" as genitive

gut

[ocean robin]

okay

[hot cloak]

but only here

you can translate of as "von"

too

but it's not important now

[ocean robin]

Meh though

wait

[hot cloak]

das ist ... der schlechtest.. Lokale

fill it

[ocean robin]

Einem der schlechtesten?

[hot cloak]

asdohasljdhldskfh

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

don't think about the original sentence

[ocean robin]

oh okay but

ah

[hot cloak]

"it is one of the worst bars" translate this

[ocean robin]

So einer for gen okay

but damn this thing is confusing me with no reason

[opal sequoia]

👀

[hot cloak]

ok translate this

"it is a bar"

[ancient spade]

👀

[ocean robin]

Das ist ein Lokal

[hot cloak]

then translte this "it is one of the worst bars"

[sudden panther]

Fan Bloop.

[hot cloak]

arrem when will you finally fan her

@ocean robin

where are you

[ocean robin]

Sorry, brother took my phone a bit 😛

Anyway.

Das ist ein der schlechtesten Lokale? 🤔

[hot cloak]

gut

[ocean robin]

wat

[hot cloak]

and now

we need relative clause

[ocean robin]

oh god why

[hot cloak]

have you already learned it

?

[viscid cape]

pats Floppo's brother

[toxic urchin]

a relative santa clause?

[ocean robin]

I did though, Foxxo

[viscid cape]

Das ist ein der schlechtesten Lokale isn't correct afaik.

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

why

[ocean robin]

WE NEED A NATIVE HELP

[viscid cape]

You need an article used as pronoun

[ocean robin]

yus so there die

I think...?

[viscid cape]

eines not ein

[ocean robin]

Thought about that first but...

[hot cloak]

aha

[ocean robin]

It's nominative there

[hot cloak]

ok my fault

[toxic urchin]

I don't even know the basics yet but I can tell that sentence is not correct

[ocean robin]

Ah?

[hot cloak]

i flopped

[ocean robin]

Then I am even more confusion 👀

[viscid cape]

It's okay, Floppo is contagious

[ocean robin]

All is Genitive?

[hot cloak]

Das ist eines der schlechtesten Lokale

nope

it's not genitive

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

it's an article used as pronoun as Krypty said

[toxic urchin]

it seems like everyone is starting to flop a lot

thats one more reason to fan blop

[hot cloak]

so "one of the worst bars i've ever seen"

how should you translate "i've ever seen"

[ocean robin]

ich habe immer gesehen?

flop

[hot cloak]

ever doesn't mean immer

always means immer

[ocean robin]

Well immer also means always though

[hot cloak]

here you should use "je"

or "jemals"

it means "ever" in this context

[ocean robin]

Dict.cc says immer as the first answer

[hot cloak]

like it is the best cookie i've ever eaten

[ocean robin]

I like dict.cc

[hot cloak]

das ist der beste Keks, den ich je gegessen habe

ooups

spoiled it

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

so translate

[ocean robin]

What does it spoil though?

[viscid cape]

😂

[hot cloak]

i knew i haven't spoiled it

[ocean robin]

"It's the best cookie I have ever eaten"?

ah

I see the spoil

[opal sequoia]

About the ein/eines thing, just think about it like this: you never use "ein" by itself. That is, you can only use "ein" when you use the noun too.

[hot cloak]

OMG

you ve just opened my eyes

😦

[ocean robin]

oh

[hot cloak]

so flops

geh weiter

[opal sequoia]

Ist es ein Hund? Ja, er ist einer. 🐶

[hot cloak]

oh no

it's not a good example

[opal sequoia]

😄

[hot cloak]

ist das dein Koffer? ja, er ist meiner

so

[ocean robin]

Am Rande der Stadt in eines der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, ich habe allein gesetzt und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freunf auf der Bühne gesunges hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.
We're only on the first sentence, I het this is going to be long

wait what

[hot cloak]

facepalm...

[ocean robin]

my phone goddamnit

[toxic urchin]

excuses

[ocean robin]

It is true :v

[hot cloak]

DATIVE

WO

DATIVE

[ocean robin]

BUT

[hot cloak]

NO BUT

[ocean robin]

WHAT WE SAID

[hot cloak]

U DUMBO

[ocean robin]

I AM CONFUSED

[fair iron]

A poor craftsman blames his tools.

[hot cloak]

IT WAS AN EXAMPLE

[ocean robin]

OH GODDAMIT

[hot cloak]

TO MAKE IT EASIER

[ocean robin]

B-BUT okay then

Let's calm down

[fair iron]

*GODDAMMIT.

[opal sequoia]

😄

[ocean robin]

lel casca

[fair iron]

^^

[ocean robin]

I can't write today

So uh

einem der?

[hot cloak]

👌

[ocean robin]

okay then let's put this

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, ich habe allein gesetzt und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freunf auf der Bühne gesunges hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

[hot cloak]

das Lokal ->

[ocean robin]

Just looking at that wall of text scares me 👀

huh

[hot cloak]

the worst bar i've ever seen

[ocean robin]

But there it's "one of the worst bars I have ever seen"

mh

not einem then?

[hot cloak]

hm

[ocean robin]

Or we just put the singular form of Lokal?

[hot cloak]

you are right

[viscid cape]

My pupil grows stronger.

[ocean robin]

so einen der?

But even so

[fair iron]

You cannot compare every bar and use singular.

[ocean robin]

Einem der would be impossible

[hot cloak]

relative clause here for plural

[ocean robin]

[fair iron]

That could be influence of love, drugs, or deceipt, Kryptik.

[ocean robin]

"drugs"

👀

So Foxxo? Is it einen der?

[hot cloak]

wut

you were right

[ocean robin]

ah

Let's move on then?

[hot cloak]

sorry for my bad english

eh

yep lets go

[ocean robin]

Nah, your English is okay tbh

[hot cloak]

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, ich habe allein gesetzt und ich habe aufmerksam gehört

here you have 2 same mistakes

find them

[ocean robin]

Then since there is a subordinate clause

huh lel

[viscid cape]

"Your English is okay" 😂

[hot cloak]

ma inglisch ist okay

i know

it

[ocean robin]

I mean, I have seen worse, and he is perfectly understandable 🤷

[hot cloak]

not better not worse

[viscid cape]

😂

Isn't she adorkable

[ocean robin]

I hope I am not savage

[hot cloak]

she is indeed

[toxic urchin]

cabbage

[ocean robin]

///<

And I am sure the errors are word order, aren't they?

[hot cloak]

yep

[ocean robin]

So for the first, I think that I would be "habe ich" because there's a subordinate clause before it

Like uh

[hot cloak]

👌

[ocean robin]

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, habe ich allein gesetzt und ich habe aufmerksam gehört

[ancient spade]

Well, that's right, but the reason you stated is wrong I think

[ocean robin]

I dunno, I always think like that

[hot cloak]

i have no idea what is subordinate clause

[ancient spade]

Look

[ocean robin]

Wait, what?

[hot cloak]

it's simplier

verb should be almost always on the second position

[ancient spade]

Yep

[opal sequoia]

Subordinate clause in German is the Nebensatz, foxxo.

[hot cloak]

if it's not a nebensatz

aaah

[ancient spade]

You beat me to it haha

[hot cloak]

thank you my friend

[viscid cape]

"Aaaaah I have no idea what a Nebensatz is"

[ocean robin]

^ me before

[hot cloak]

it's a subordinate clause, krypto

[ocean robin]

[ancient spade]

Lol

[viscid cape]

Rekt

[opal sequoia]

So Flappy is just saying that if you put the nebensatz first, the verb in the main clause goes just after the nebensatz. Since the nebensatz takes the first position.

[ocean robin]

My point, yeah.

[opal sequoia]

And it may not be the whole picture here, but it's a bit advanced for Flappy when you mix things at the start.

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

Well, if you take out the "that I've ever seen", how would you write the sentence, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

What was the whole sentence first?

[opal sequoia]

"In the outskirts of the city in one of the worst bars, I sat alone."

Just translate that.

[ocean robin]

Without the "in one of the worst bars"?

[opal sequoia]

No, everything I just wrote.

[viscid cape]

😂

[ocean robin]

Oh, okay.

[hot cloak]

flopssel makes me happy

or at least laugh

you are so cute and your mistakes are so adorable

___<

[ocean robin]

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale habe ich allein gesetzt
Didn't make a new clause because "in the outskirts of the city in one of the worst one" isn't one technically

[hot cloak]

almost correct

[ocean robin]

Hooooi thanks Foxxo. I am glad that I make you laugh at least. ^^

[hot cloak]

word order is right

[ocean robin]

oh yay

[hot cloak]

but you should know the difference between

"sitzen saß gesessen" and "setzen setzte gesetzt"

[ocean robin]

oh sitzen

That was actually the verb I wanted to use x.x

[sudden panther]

But did you used it? 😛

[ocean robin]

english is broken as always

No I didn't, I used setzen instead

[sudden panther]

See that's why we have to ban you.

[ocean robin]

😦

[ancient spade]

I don't blame her though, I still mistake one for the other every now and then

[hot cloak]

^true

[ocean robin]

so let me correct that

[viscid cape]

Do you know the difference between the two 🤔

[ocean robin]

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, habe ich allein gesessen und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freunf auf der Bühne gesunges hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

[hot cloak]

flopped

[ocean robin]

Krypti, the thing is that I don't know what setzen means 🤔

I FLOPPED AGAIN? AHHH

[sudden panther]

Wew, giving Floop an entire paragraph to translate. Foxxo is meaner than all of us combined.

[viscid cape]

True

[ocean robin]

^

[ancient spade]

Yeah lol

[hot cloak]

i just want floppo to work hard

[sudden panther]

Did you even read over you sentence before sending it Floop?

[hot cloak]

cause she has complained about how lazy she is

[ocean robin]

I agree though 😦

I did say that yesterday when I was about to sleep

[toxic urchin]

hmm maybe we should give her an essay to translate

[ocean robin]

WHAT

[hot cloak]

^ see i'm a good one

[ocean robin]

Sadistic people.

[toxic urchin]

200 words at least

[sudden panther]

She'd need 3 months to translate an essay.

[hot cloak]

i want floppo to evolve

[ocean robin]

And where is this flop by the way

[sudden panther]

Enton Enton.

[ocean robin]

NO

[sudden panther]

Everywhere TBH.

[ocean robin]

Solet did say that there were ~10 mistakes

[sudden panther]

Hence the "did you even read the sentence(s) before posting". 😛

[ocean robin]

Even 10 mistakes is not that much tbh

I did

[hot cloak]

you read it flopply

[ocean robin]

The part I corrected?

[sudden panther]

Sentence has obvious typos
Yeah I totally read it

[hot cloak]

it's not typos tho

[ocean robin]

freunf

okay lel

Okay, there's way more typos than I thought

[hot cloak]

or..

on the outskirts of the city in one of the worst bars i've ever seen I sat alone and listened attentively as my best friend sang on stage while the others were having fun and dancing. I felt terrible because he sang as bad as this place was bad, and everyone knew that this drunk dude was my friend.

[ocean robin]

Let me fix those first

[hot cloak]

mb the mistake i think about isn't dat bad

[ocean robin]

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, habe ich allein gesessen und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freund auf der Bühne gesungen hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

[hot cloak]

als - mistake

[ocean robin]

Huh, why?

[hot cloak]

arrem she is yours

[sudden panther]

telling her what she did wrong.
See. I would have just told her to go read a grammar book and figure it out on her own. 😂

[ocean robin]

lol

[hot cloak]

i have to do my own german

WELL

[sudden panther]

Oooo no foxxo, you started this, you're finishing it. 😛

[hot cloak]

I wanted to give her a grammar book

[ocean robin]

bruh

[hot cloak]

and told her where to find these books

but she didn't pay attention

[sudden panther]

Classic Floop.

[hot cloak]

[viscid cape]

I like when people talk about her as if she weren't in the room

😂

[ocean robin]

[viscid cape]

pats Floppo

[ocean robin]

weee

[viscid cape]

It might help to break down the paragraph in sentences

[sudden panther]

Krypti. You take over.

[ocean robin]

looool

[viscid cape]

Nyuu I need to go to uni in 10 mins

[ocean robin]

😦

[hot cloak]

no one wants to teach you lmao

[viscid cape]

I can help for 10 mins, but then I have to leave

[ocean robin]

"You're too troubling, Floppsi"

[hot cloak]

i thought it would be faster

no floppsy

[ocean robin]

Yeah, same

[hot cloak]

you are just slow

[sudden panther]

I'm already at Uni.

[hot cloak]

not troubling

i have fun helping you

[ocean robin]

Yeah, I must admit that I am slow with understanding German correctly

But at least I have fun, so it's okay ^^

[viscid cape]

What's the original sentence again 😂

[hot cloak]

because you can't learn a language by just translating sentences here

you need to learn with books

[ocean robin]

on the outskirts of the city in one of the worst bars i've ever seen I sat alone and listened attentively as my best friend sang on stage while the others were having fun and dancing. I felt terrible because he sang as bad as this place was bad, and everyone knew that this drunk dude was my friend.

We do that with Krypti, though.

[hot cloak]

cause ok you learned it today but you have no structure in your mind

[ocean robin]

We do books one day, translation another day, etc.

[viscid cape]

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, habe ich allein gesessen und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freund auf der Bühne gesungen hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt.

So

[sudden panther]

Books being actual grammar books. You need to read about it and learn it. Exercises on their own won't help that much, since you generally tend to forget about those 2 days later.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[hot cloak]

^ that's what i wanted to say

[ocean robin]

I need to buy one in the book shop eh

[hot cloak]

godammit

[ocean robin]

Will find the time next weeko

[viscid cape]

😂

[ocean robin]

[sudden panther]

Lol.

The resource list is full of nice bookos.

[hot cloak]

i sent so many links in resources to free pdf

s

[sudden panther]

Also wot foxxo sez.

[ocean robin]

wooo oki

But a book would intresting if I would like to work in high school 🤔

[viscid cape]

You can read a couple of chapters every week and within a couple of months you'll have read all material you need for B1 😃

The basic grammar book is very lightly paced, I think you sohuld try it

[ocean robin]

Because I did that once, searched exercises for nicht placement and didn't find any on all the books the library of the high school library 😦

[hot cloak]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_wOitGYCexDRnZyRHZPb1ZMbEE

DOWNLOAD IT

[ocean robin]

My English fucking perfect

[viscid cape]

Don't worry Flops, our resources list has plenty of material

If you don't mind reading it on a screen

[hot cloak]

^ the best grammar book i've ever used

[ocean robin]

This is the problem, but I think it can be easily resolved ^^

I will be able to work in freetimes in school too

So it's okay 😃

[sudden panther]

Your English fucking perfect? Mine isn't as good at fucking, unfortunately.

[ocean robin]

facepalms slowly

I even forgot a word in this sentence, I am tired

[viscid cape]

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, habe ich allein gesessen und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freund auf der Bühne gesungen hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt.

[sudden panther]

A book full of exercises. Hot. We can torture Floop all day every day now. Do you have more of these, Foxxo?

[ocean robin]

[viscid cape]

[habe ich allein gesessen und ich habe aufmerksam gehört]

You can omitt the subject here

[sudden panther]

No she can't.

She can omit it though. 😄

[viscid cape]

~~ yu dik ~~

[sudden panther]

❤ u krypti

[ocean robin]

oh wew 👀

Omit, like delete it?

[sudden panther]

If I ever make a language, I'll take all the common misspellings and make them extremely rude words, just to mess with learners.

[viscid cape]

😂

Yes, delete it

[ocean robin]

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, habe ich allein gesessen und habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freund auf der Bühne gesungen hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

[viscid cape]

"listened attentively as my best friend sang on stage" -> Als isn't the most recommended conjunction here

[ocean robin]

Which one then?

[viscid cape]

You can omit haben as well Floppo, since it's been used in the first clause already

[opal sequoia]

"habe ich allein gesessen und habe aufmerksam gehört" Can you actually say this?

[viscid cape]

'as' means that he was listening while/during the time his friend sang

[ocean robin]

The second? Oki dokie.

Während?

[viscid cape]

Yes

@opal sequoia If you omit the second haben I think so

[opal sequoia]

I meant without omitting the second haben.

[viscid cape]

No I don't think so

[opal sequoia]

Okay.

[ocean robin]

Am Rande der Stadt in einem der schlechtesten Lokale, die ich jemals gesehen habe, habe ich allein gesessen und aufmerksam gehört, während mein Freund auf der Bühne gesungen hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

[viscid cape]

Oh there's other während afterwards

Hmm this sounds bad... let me think

on the outskirts of the city in one of the worst bars i've ever seen I sat alone and listened attentively as my best friend sang on stage while the others were having fun and dancing. I felt terrible because he sang as bad as this place was bad, and everyone knew that this drunk dude was my friend.

[ocean robin]

yeah

[opal sequoia]

I think you would be better off making two sentences of it.

[viscid cape]

Can't you use one während for both clauses?

while my friend sang on the stange and others were having fun and dancing

[opal sequoia]

It depends.

That was my first thought to, but there is a stronger connection between the singing and the dancing. Like they are specifically dancing to the guy's singing.

[viscid cape]

Yes I know what you mean

Base can you take over? I need to go to uni lul

[opal sequoia]

I have to go to sleep. 😄

[viscid cape]

[opal sequoia]

But I don't like to correct these kind of ones anyway as they are a bit messy and complicated to explain to someone who is still learning the grammar basics.

[viscid cape]

True, I don't know it myself

[opal sequoia]

These are like B2 things, when you have to consider overall sentence structure and sound of the sentence.

[ocean robin]

👀

I am doing B2 thingos?

[viscid cape]

It's all your fault @hot cloak

Yes that's B1 above

[opal sequoia]

In which case I think we can just say your sentence is fine, Flappy. It sounds not so great in German, but I guess that's fine.

At least that part of it.

[ocean robin]

Oh, okay.

[viscid cape]

Flapponcius, pick up a grammar book with exercises, and start reading step by step

Whenever you come upon a hard exercise, you can post it here

And we do it together

maybe this way you'll learn stuff in a more structured manner

😄

But you did very well, I couldn't translate it much better myself

🤔

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

I flopped up

:FeelsBadMan:

[viscid cape]

pats Floppo Take care and see you later

[opal sequoia]

Well there were some mistakes that Flappy should have noticed. Like the word order of the clauses. 😄

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

I am not going to let you get away with that one, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

See you Krypti.

Oh, okay, Base.

[opal sequoia]

Bye Kryptik.

[ancient spade]

I see why foxxo did that though. She's a C1 who thinks she's b2. So she thinks Flappo is also 1 level higher, that is b1

At least that's my theory

:mmlol:

[hot cloak]

I'm not C1

not at all

[opal sequoia]

während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Can you fix this part, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

I CAN'T BE B1

[sudden panther]

Don't worry, you're not. 😛

[hot cloak]

how can't you floppo

[ocean robin]

I am not for sure

Vocabulary is way too poor

[opal sequoia]

Try this first: while they danced and sang.

[ocean robin]

Während sie getanzt und gesungen haben?

[hot cloak]

base is C1

[ocean robin]

wat

[sudden panther]

You can get your A2 certificate when you properly introduce yourself in voice chat and talk about a topic that's familiar to you. And show that you can understand people when they talk slowly. Then we can start working towards a B1. 😛

[hot cloak]

I am B2

[opal sequoia]

Mmm, so what happened with that "haben", Flappy?

[ocean robin]

I think you're overestimating CEFR levels, Foxxo.

It came to the end because it's a subordinate clause.

[sudden panther]

Overestimating?

[hot cloak]

do you want to say I'm b1

[ocean robin]

No.

[sudden panther]

So you'd saythat she's C1 and base is C2? 😛

[ocean robin]

But I am not B1.

[opal sequoia]

So what about this one? während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt.

[sudden panther]

That would be underestimating then.

Underestimating the required amount of knowledge.

[hot cloak]

I estimate them right

[ocean robin]

I think it's that und which confused me

[hot cloak]

okay

don't know what estimate mean tho

🤔

[ancient spade]

Lol

[sudden panther]

schätzen 😛

How hard you think they are.

[hot cloak]

aha

👍

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, und can be confusing. But you just have to think of the "und" as being like inside the "während".

Because it is while they are dancing AND while they are having fun.

[ocean robin]

So it's Während andere Spaß hatten und getanzt haben or maybe not

[hot cloak]

👍

[ocean robin]

"Hatten haben" would sound so weird

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, you fixed another mistake there.

As well.

[pine ginkgo]

oh

how are yoi doing

[hot cloak]

ziemlich gut

[ocean robin]

Hey back Solet. o/

[opal sequoia]

Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

[torn kindle]

GUESS WHOS JAW IS FINALLY NEARLY WORKING AS NORMAL

[ocean robin]

OH SESKA

[opal sequoia]

Now just finish this one and you can be complete.

[ocean robin]

HOW ARE YA DOING

[quasi merlin]

JAWSKA

[torn kindle]

I hope it doesn't get bad again :c

[opal sequoia]

Hi Bruce.

[ocean robin]

LOL

[opal sequoia]

What happened to your jaw?

[pine ginkgo]

use your jaw more

[torn kindle]

MIKA FLOPS BACE

Cramps base :/

[opal sequoia]

Oh. 😢

[ocean robin]

:^<

[torn kindle]

I don't know how?

More blowjobs hot baths?

[toxic urchin]

Must have been a jaw dropping experience

[torn kindle]

🚪

[sudden panther]

Hi Bruceska.

[torn kindle]

Hi Arrce

[toxic urchin]

I think i drank too much tea

[torn kindle]

That's not even possible

[toxic urchin]

I feel like i can beat bolt in a sprint

[torn kindle]

To the toilet?

[toxic urchin]

wut

[torn kindle]

Wut

[toxic urchin]

I also havent clipped my nails in bazillion years

[quasi merlin]

Wut, Hass, Zorn

[toxic urchin]

They are so big

[pine ginkgo]

mikuh

[quasi merlin]

Mh?

[toxic urchin]

wut?

[torn kindle]

Brazillion years*

[toxic urchin]

Krillion years

[torn kindle]

Krabbillion

[arctic helm]

Wew Seska can do blowjobs eat a banana eat again

woohoo

[toxic urchin]

Is flappy done with the translation?

[pine ginkgo]

no

they are about 60% done

[sudden panther]

Lol. I'm afraid to go back and see what the original looked like.

[pine ginkgo]

ehehe

[opal sequoia]

You should, Arrem.

[pine ginkgo]

the English one flops first one?

[sudden panther]

First Flops one.

[pine ginkgo]

Am Rande der Stadt in einen die schlechtesten Gittern habe ich immer gesehen, ich habe allein gesetzt und ich habe aufmerksam gehört, als mein Freunf auf der Bühne gesunges hat, während andere spaß hatten und haben getanzt. Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

enjoy

[opal sequoia]

Ich sollte nun schlafen.

Enjoy.

[pine ginkgo]

but who will finish flops 🤔

[sudden panther]

Lol.

Not me.

[pine ginkgo]

how often do you go to a gitter, arrem?

[sudden panther]

Twice a day.

[pine ginkgo]

how was uni arrme

[torn kindle]

Sadly I have no dicks bananas around

[pine ginkgo]

where's your bf

[torn kindle]

15 car minutes away

But I have no car

[pine ginkgo]

but does he

[torn kindle]

Nope

[pine ginkgo]

rip

[torn kindle]

Rip so hard

fuck it hurts again

[pine ginkgo]

flops deded

[torn kindle]

IM DIEDING

[pine ginkgo]

sesky no, stop

[torn kindle]

ok, i will just stop opening my mouth

[ocean robin]

i am not ded

[pine ginkgo]

flops undeded!

[ocean robin]

Yay!

[stark drift]

Flop

[ocean robin]

Heyo Qadmus. ^^

[stark drift]

@wooden karma wants to kill you 👀

[sudden panther]

how was uni arrme
Nice. I only had a single Übung today.

[stark drift]

I heard him in the vocal

👀

[wooden karma]

it was a joke

[stark drift]

👀

[ocean robin]

what what

👀

[stark drift]

Don't steal my emoji

👀

[ocean robin]

[toxic urchin]

:eyeslol:

[naive void]

7w7

[torn kindle]

👀

[hot cloak]

flappo

I'm here to help you

[naive void]

lol

[hot cloak]

if you still want

[naive void]

flappo

[hot cloak]

I have 30 minutes for you

Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

@ocean robin

[ocean robin]

yus

[hot cloak]

let's correct this

[stark drift]

Flöpsel = Floppy = Flappy = Flappo = Floppy = Flops = Flaps = Flap = Flop

[ocean robin]

^

[stark drift]

Use them interchangeably

[hot cloak]

"entsetzlich" passt nicht. es bedeutet "horrific"

[naive void]

@stark drift you forgot, flappity fap

[hot cloak]

du brauchst ein anderes Adjektiv

[ocean robin]

mh

[naive void]

@hot cloak Warum brauche ich ein anderes Adjektiv?

[stark drift]

We can also call you "Fap" if you have no problem 😃

I'm amazing

[hot cloak]

@naive void Flappo braucht, du nicht

[naive void]

oh, ok

[hot cloak]

your suggestions

flopsel

[ocean robin]

I have no idea tbh

[hot cloak]

schrecklich

for example

[ocean robin]

ooooh yeah

[hot cloak]

ok, so correct it

then our subordinate clause

Ich habe mich entsetzlich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

[ocean robin]

Ich habe mich schrecklich gefühlt, weil er so schlecht wie diesen Ort war schlecht gesungen hat, und jeder wusste, dass dieser getrunken Kerl meinen Freund war.

[hot cloak]

ok

how would you translate "blablabla
... because he sang so bad"

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

just this

it's easy for you

[ocean robin]

let me see

[hot cloak]

you've already done this

floppyflopp

[ocean robin]

Did I? 🤔

[hot cloak]

yep

well just make it again

[ocean robin]

Weil er so schlecht gesungen hat?

[hot cloak]

good

[ocean robin]

yayies

[hot cloak]

as ... as... = so ... wie ...

is it clear

?

[ocean robin]

Didn't I say that though?

[hot cloak]

you said

but

here was your flopp