general-2

[ocean robin]

Angst hält alle Essen für Gift. Like that?

[viscid cape]

Very good, correct structure.

But something is wrong.

Can you tell what it is

[ocean robin]

Huh? Something is wrong?

An article is missing?

[sudden panther]

Correct. As everyone knows Dem Angst hält alle die Essen für der Gift is correct.

[viscid cape]

No, have a look at Essen

[ocean robin]

lol no arrem

Mmmh.

🤔

[viscid cape]

Is it singular or plural

[ocean robin]

Singular?

[viscid cape]

If it singular, it means food. If it's plural, it means meals.

@fair iron Can you confirm this info?

I'm not sure myself 🤔

[fair iron]

Can confirm.

[hot cloak]

What.

No

[viscid cape]

Alright, thank you

😂 oh dear

[dire sentinel]

yes

[hot cloak]

Essen doesn't have a plural, it can either mean "food" or "meal". Or have you ever heard "die Essen" @fair iron

[ocean robin]

🤔

[fair iron]

I have, actually.

[ocean robin]

Wew I am getting confused.

[pine ginkgo]

but you never use it

[viscid cape]

"I am confusion"

[hot cloak]

you really don't

pleaase don't use the plural, ty

[pine ginkgo]

you only ever use the singular

[fair iron]

That's certainly true. It does have a plural though, Botto. 😛

[hot cloak]

Would you consider your advice to be right then?

[viscid cape]

That's what I was basing my question on

[fair iron]

Grammatically, yes. Apart from that, I really wouldn't. ^^

[hot cloak]

[fair iron]

I'd use die Mahlzeiten if anything. :]

[viscid cape]

Very well.

So Floppo

[ocean robin]

I don't get it.

What's wrong in the sentence? 🤔

[viscid cape]

It's not wrong, but it's not common

Essen is used in singular

So there's something you need to adjust

If you want to say "all food"

[ocean robin]

uuuh

[sudden panther]

Essdings?

[viscid cape]

Wait, maybe I'm confused myself 🤔

[sudden panther]

Krypti is confusion.

[viscid cape]

I'd better just ask a native.

[pine ginkgo]

its good krypti

[viscid cape]

I would say alles Essen, but I don't know if alle Essen fits as well

[pine ginkgo]

oh no

try with "all the food"

[viscid cape]

ahh okay.

[shy bobcat]

Alle Essen definitely doesn’t work btw ^^ 😛

So you were half right

[ocean robin]

i am confusion

[pine ginkgo]

alles works too tho

[ocean robin]

🤔

[naive void]

@shy bobcat Oh! Hallo mein Spanier Freund!

[thick charm]

are we torturing Flops again

[shy bobcat]

Spanier?

Ich bin doch Amerikanker

Amerikaner

[pine ginkgo]

krypti, but since its philosophical :D

[ocean robin]

Yus Chuck.

[viscid cape]

So Flappo, stick to "all the food"

[thick charm]

Amerikranker

[naive void]

Amerikaner :/

[ocean robin]

By the way hi Chuck.

[viscid cape]

You need all- + an article

[thick charm]

[ocean robin]

wtf 🤔

[dire sentinel]

🤔

[ocean robin]

Alle das Essen? What kind of barbarism is that? 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

there are multiple ways to do it, depending on how you want to sound

[shy bobcat]

@naive void warum :/ 😦

[viscid cape]

I'd say either alles Essen or all das Essen

😂

But I can't really know for sure 🤔

[naive void]

ich denke du Spanier war

[pine ginkgo]

the latter one sounds nicer if you make it sound more philosophical

[dire sentinel]

Cascaaaaat

[naive void]

(I'm sure the sentence I wrote is just wrong)

[pine ginkgo]

*wanna make

[viscid cape]

So Floppo

This one was a bit confusing, sorry

But "all das Essen" sounds fine

Just remember "Essen" is usually used in singular

[shy bobcat]

@naive void ich habe gedacht, du wärst Spanier I think is how you’d say it 😄

[ocean robin]

Ooooh okay.

[naive void]

oh, danke mein Spanier Sprache freund

[viscid cape]

So you can't use "alle" in front of it

[ocean robin]

And where's the dass Ari? 🤔

[naive void]

lel

[sudden panther]

Not with that attitude.

[pine ginkgo]

its dropped

[sudden panther]

Ari doesn't need dasses. He's way too cool for that.

[ocean robin]

Oh okay.

[pine ginkgo]

like how you can drop that in English

[twilit garden]

I thought you were spanish
I thought that you were spanish

both are possible

[ocean robin]

It's just me who puts dasses everywhere. ^^

[shy bobcat]

oh yeah, french needs its equivalent of dass doesn’t it

[sudden panther]

Let's not teach Flops dropping yet. She can't even get all the needed words in the sentence.

[shy bobcat]

tru

[naive void]

Well, I'm gonna play some War thunder

[viscid cape]

So Flappo, rewrite the sentence

[sudden panther]

Arrem kann Flops nicht ein Satz übersetzen.
Or something like that.

[viscid cape]

To make sure you got it right

[shy bobcat]

Arrem kann nicht über dem Solaranlage glauben

[ocean robin]

yes

exactly ari

[sudden panther]

Damn Arrem.

Now go do what Krypti says, Enton.

[shy bobcat]

@fair iron Memes.

[ocean robin]

Angst hält all das Essen für Gift.

STOP CALLING ME ENTON PLEASE ;u;

[shy bobcat]

Ich habe gewesen fahren in mein Auto 🚗

[placid heath]

Huhu!

[sudden panther]

I'll stop calling you Enton when you're B2. At least explicitly.

[shy bobcat]

🇰🇵 😄

[ocean robin]

😦

[placid heath]

🇦🇿 :D

[viscid cape]

Floppo you did a good job. I'll leave the Ger-> Eng sentences now.

[sudden panther]

Also disclaimer, when I feel that you're B2, not when you say that you are.

[ocean robin]

oki dokie

[placid heath]

Arrem's B2 = Everyone else's C2

[cold vessel]

Says the C1 who thinks he's B2 😂

[ocean robin]

And what is my level for you huh?

[sudden panther]

Which is probably gonna be in 2019.

[ocean robin]

A1?

[placid heath]

B-Anned probs

[sudden panther]

I am B2. You lads just have very low expectations. 😛

[ocean robin]

🤔

[shy bobcat]

ger -> eng 😒 boring

half-

[placid heath]

But with idioms!

[ocean robin]

Arrem, I want an awnser to my question please.

[placid heath]

Wie sagt man so schön? Es ist noch kein Enton vom Himmel gefallen.

[ocean robin]

oh god

[placid heath]

awnser

[ocean robin]

one of the words I can't spell correctly

Please forgive me.

[placid heath]

answer if I'm no totally mistaken

[fair iron]

You're correct, Korea.

The only thing you're mistaken on is *not. ^^

[placid heath]

Dang.

heybotmakemeEnglishA1plz

[sudden panther]

ger -> eng 😒 boring
YES
Arrem, I want an awnser to my question please.
Sorry, which one?

[cold vessel]

What level she is, I think

[ocean robin]

yep

[sudden panther]

Hm. I'll get back to you in a second.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

AX

[ocean robin]

A0 wow.

[shy bobcat]

tbh I don’t know my level divisions, I just know you’re definitely A something

😛

[ocean robin]

I am... wonderful, that is wonderful.

[sudden panther]

Listening: Really wouldn't know, I've yet to hear you talk in voice chat.
Speaking: Same as listening
Reading: You've seen enough grammar things here, some of which are beyond your level so I don't think you'd have trouble with that
Writing: Again, grammar would help you here, yet you've complained about having to write 20 words before, so meh. Nevertheless, all they ask for in an A2 test is 50, so I believe you could manage.
Grammar: When you actually bother thinking about it, you've even passed A2 and stepped into B1 territory with all the things you've seen here.
Vocabulary: Extremely hard to tell, since I don't know when/how much you use a dictionary. One wouldn't be allowed in a real test.
Tldr; I really don't have enough information to make a meaningful claim, but I'd be willing to bet that you'd be able to pass the writing and reading parts (at least) from what I've seen.

[ocean robin]

You mean, for A2 or B1? 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

lol

[sudden panther]

A2. You'd definitely Flops up B1. 😛

[cold vessel]

You seriously only need to write 50 words for A2?

[shy bobcat]

flops becomes b1, next day Die Solaranlage nicht ist der ganzen Universum

[ocean robin]

[sudden panther]

Yes. The tests aren't strict at all. If you're even near a certain level, you should be able to pass the test.

[tribal warren]

Vote Arrem for cool language analysis

[sudden panther]

Especially with the "lol u only need 60% to pass, idgaf" thing.

[cold vessel]

What grammar concepts have you gone through that are B1?

[shy bobcat]

when you don’t even know what “B1 grammar concepts” are 🤔

[cold vessel]

Me neither

[pine ginkgo]

me neither

[tribal warren]

Lol

[placid heath]

B1 = B one = ☠ = Deadliest grammar

[ocean robin]

🤔

[tribal warren]

B1=Bone how have I never thought of that

[shy bobcat]

becase 1 and b__one__ are pronounced completely differently

[sudden panther]

We have the grammar requirements for each level in resources you lazy memers.

[shy bobcat]

fokkin english

[tribal warren]

oh yea true

[placid heath]

ghoti

[tribal warren]

juan

[placid heath]

🐟

[hot cloak]

^

juan is spanish you dummkopf

[cold vessel]

Oh god, modals are B1

[sudden panther]

https://www.hueber.de/media/36/schritte5-6-grammatik.pdf
https://www.hueber.de/media/36/sih_B1plus_Grammatik_L1-8.pdf

There.

[shy bobcat]

@cold vessel wut

how

[cold vessel]

Says so in the second document arrem linked

[ocean robin]

nope nope that's not me

[cold vessel]

Konjunktiv II 😱

[shy bobcat]

konj ii 😍

Ich fände es gut, wenn ihr das lenen würdet 😄

[cold vessel]

🤔

[sudden panther]

"Modals" is a really bad term. 😛 Modal particles pls.

[cold vessel]

I'm a lazy memer, you said

[sudden panther]

And yeah, only the basic ones, but you really only have to kinda get them and maybe use one or two. You can get by without knowing them.

[cold vessel]

Lazy memers can't be bothered to use two words

[shy bobcat]

@sudden panther oh, I thought they meant modal verbs

that was why I said wut

😛

[sudden panther]

I can guarantee that the official tests won't say "hey how about you list all the modal particles and explain them all in detail and give 82 example sentences for each of them".

I did too, I had to check haha.

[cold vessel]

What's a modal verb 👀

[shy bobcat]

können, mögen, dürfen etc

[cold vessel]

🤦

[sudden panther]

Do we have an A0 role? Because we need an A0 role.

[ocean robin]

I don't really know what Konj II is tbh

[sudden panther]

Depends on the language.

In Bosnian, "Konj II" is simply "horse 2"

[placid heath]

🐴

[sudden panther]

Almighty google can confirm. https://i.imgur.com/s48o7w3.png

[dire sentinel]

Like a horse, but stronger

the second model

[sudden panther]

Yes!

[placid heath]

Horse Mk II

Now with less apples and more horse powers

[fair iron]

Such as the power of telekinesis! 😮

[sudden panther]

That's rad.

[ocean robin]

Croatian - detected

lel

Oooh now I remember that I have a German test tommorow. Almost forgot wooo.

[viscid cape]

At least you have a good excuse to be on discord with us

[sudden panther]

Eh. Our languages are pretty much what would happen if Austria and Switzerland started calling their standard languages Austrian and Swiss one day. (Dialects are basically nonexistent here. Or at least not as horribly incompatible as the German ones.) You'd get 3 languages which would be more or less the same, but they'd all have different names because memes.

[ocean robin]

Different names because memes. Understandable.

[placid heath]

French vs Baguette-Speak vs Alsacian

[ocean robin]

🤔

Baguette-Speak? Can I hear it a bit?

[placid heath]

🥖

[ocean robin]

Okay magnificent.

[placid heath]

Ruckzuckhieb

[ocean robin]

Mais si tu veux parler français ok pourquou pas. 🤔

Oh please stop.

[placid heath]

🌽 je ne veux parler pas.

[sudden panther]

I don't think Enton can do the Ruckzuckhieb, Korea.

[placid heath]

Maybe Flops is a Ratata after all.

[ocean robin]

I think Korea has the same problem as me regarding negation placement

[placid heath]

I did not have any french lessons in 4 years.

[ocean robin]

Oh understandable then.

[sudden panther]

Imagine what would happen to Floop if she didn't have German lessons in 4 years.

[placid heath]

Nothing.

[ocean robin]

For 4 years?

[sudden panther]

"i bim floop. kann nicht deutsch mehr, entschulguding"

[ocean robin]

beautifool

[placid heath]

Halo I bims 1 Psykokwak. Aber für dich bims i 1 Entong

[ocean robin]

Stooooop with Enton! ;___;

[placid heath]

Psykokwak then.

[ocean robin]

THAT'S EVEN WORSE

[sudden panther]

Entong ist meim Lieblimgspokemong. 😍

[ocean robin]

_>

[placid heath]

pokemong

[ocean robin]

^

[sudden panther]

rite

[viscid cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcn_lySzS5E

[sudden panther]

So Floop. How about you floop away and go study for your test now?

[ocean robin]

Because I have no idea what this test is about, and the teacher will give our tests back for another test, so I have no idea what she mean with "test on Thursday or Friday"

[placid heath]

That there's a test on either thursday, friday or both.

[sudden panther]

Correct.

[ocean robin]

But on wot? 🤔

[placid heath]

memes

[ocean robin]

We didn't finish the chapter we're doing right now, so wot.

[sudden panther]

About the things you've covered in the lesson until this point. Duh.

[viscid cape]

what did you see on the previous chapter

and on the current one

you can review them

after you've reviewed them, we can give a couple of exercises

[sudden panther]

^dis man skools

[viscid cape]

🎓

[ocean robin]

Well we did some vocab and only sheets about families and stuff. No real grammar. I expect we will be doing some Genitive in the future, though. 😰

[sudden panther]

"I've mastered the genitive" - Floop

So what's the problem then? 😛

[ocean robin]

But I doooon't like it >_>

[pine ginkgo]

krypti is a schooli!

[viscid cape]

Nuuu

Nor will I teach you any portuguese

😒

[placid heath]

Ol`a!

[pine ginkgo]

mas gosto de você, krypti 😢

[ocean robin]

Oh wow Solet can Portuguese now!

[placid heath]

Vamos a la playa

Donde esta la biblioteca

[pine ginkgo]

una cerveza

[placid heath]

par favor

[ocean robin]

runs because she can't say a word of Portuguese

[naive void]

????

portuguese.....?

[viscid cape]

Dear Lord

[naive void]

@placid heath Sprechen Sie Spanisch? :D

[sudden panther]

Acho que você deixou seu gato na minha geladeira.

[placid heath]

Ne

[ocean robin]

Arrem created a new language? 🤔

[viscid cape]

@sudden panther 👁o👁

[sudden panther]

I'd take that as an insult, Krypti.

New language. Wow.

[ocean robin]

oh wow

[naive void]

Portuguese?

[viscid cape]

Flops, did you just imply that Arrem created portuguese?

[ocean robin]

Oh maybe.

[viscid cape]

So this is the high regard you place upon my language.

Wow.

[ocean robin]

Nou.

[viscid cape]

Bye.

[shy bobcat]

@viscid cape sim luna quer saber Portugues pq não (sorry for grammatical Murder)

😦

[ocean robin]

W-wait what. 🤔

Did Arrem just use Google Translate or something?

Arrem, please say your words. We know you aren't C2 in Portuguese.

[pine ginkgo]

lol

[sudden panther]

I've been learning Portugese for years Floop.

[ocean robin]

And that wasn't supposed to be mean, Krypti, but I am terribly sorry. 😦

I think I'll go for a little bit too.

[sudden panther]

A França é uma terra mal cheia de pessoas rudes. Especialmente Floop. Floop é o mais rude de todos. E ela come caracóis.

[viscid cape]

Loooool

[torn kindle]

carrots.

[sudden panther]

I think its spelt penises*

[ocean robin]

^ Seska.

And you are calling me rude again. 😦

[shy bobcat]

@viscid cape can you forgive my Portuguese grammar murder

[viscid cape]

@shy bobcat It's okay, when compared to Flop's meanness, yours was but a flicker

😿

[pine ginkgo]

Aí sim!

[shy bobcat]

Olá

[pine ginkgo]

krypti hates me :(

Krypti is evil

you must take care when dealing with krypti, flops

he suddenly turns evil

[shy bobcat]

😦

[ocean robin]

Actually I dunno, but I feel guilty there. So uh, I am just gonna flop off.

[pine ginkgo]

😦

[sudden panther]

Guilty? 🤔

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin Don't worry, little Fox, I'm just teasing you.

[pine ginkgo]

what did flops do? 🤔

[viscid cape]

patspats Floppo

[sudden panther]

I don't know but that's a confession.

I bet she killed 6754321 people.

[pine ginkgo]

confession means ban

[shy bobcat]

😦

But what will we do for entertainment without füchsli

[pine ginkgo]

we make bell a flops

[ocean robin]

lol

[sudden panther]

Okay I see where this is going.

hits bell with a brick

[shy bobcat]

bell regains consciousness Ah ah ah! OH GOD GENITIVE

[cold vessel]

No one's allowed to leave until we're all C

[viscid cape]

Floppo you know you're our favourite, right

[twilit garden]

dies

[pine ginkgo]

well it's hard not to be when there is only one flops

[sudden panther]

Noooo. Someone do CPR.

[pine ginkgo]

but yes

you are our favourite flops

[sudden panther]

There are two Floppses.

[viscid cape]

@sudden panther No abbreviation, type the whole thing

[pine ginkgo]

one real flops

[sudden panther]

Cynical Party Rape.

[shy bobcat]

I don't even know what it stands for 👀

[pine ginkgo]

coal pine resin

[torn kindle]

There are 2 Flopssesses?

[twilit garden]

CPR stands for Herz-Lungen-Wiederbelebung

[sudden panther]

Ye. Some guy is called Flops.

Oh no.

Did the other Flops leave? 😮

[viscid cape]

He felt overshadowed by Fläpps

[pine ginkgo]

i think the guy renamed, arrem

[ocean robin]

[sudden panther]

https://i.imgur.com/YspHlTG.png

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[pine ginkgo]

oh

[ocean robin]

LOL

[shy bobcat]

The other flops probably got a bunch of random pings from people trying to contact füchsli

[pine ginkgo]

you are our favourite flops, flops

[ocean robin]

❤

[shy bobcat]

🤗

[pine ginkgo]

as long as he doesnt come back, you can do anything

[viscid cape]

This hug emoji looks like he's pushing the person away lol

[pine ginkgo]

and will still be our favourite flops

that hug emoji sucks

but it is happy

macaco, need help!

[ancient spade]

I never knew it was a hug emoji untill I read its name here on discord

What is it?

[sudden panther]

Hm.

[pine ginkgo]

how do you call people something like "dude"

[ancient spade]

Cara

[sudden panther]

As long as he doesn't come back, she's also our least favorite Flops. 🤔

[ocean robin]

lol

[pine ginkgo]

do you use it often to speak to each other?

[ancient spade]

Yes, all the time

[pine ginkgo]

nice

thank you

[ancient spade]

You're welcome!

[pine ginkgo]

on that note how to say thank you

[shy bobcat]

@viscid cape yeah I'm pretty sure I have said exactly that about 🤗 because it does

[ancient spade]

Obrigado

[sudden panther]

She's also the Flops that has eaten the most snails. And the Flops that has eaten the least snails. And the Flops that's most like Enton.

[pine ginkgo]

obrigado, cara!

Aí sim!

[ancient spade]

De nada!

(you're welcome)

Lunch's ready!

[sudden panther]

I admire your dedication to memes, Solet.

[pine ginkgo]

being able to meme properly is important, arrem

bom apetite, macaco!

[ocean robin]

Bon appétit, Macaco!

[sudden panther]

That's the nicest thing you've ever said. Except maybe that one time when you said that you wouldn't ban me. 😄

[pine ginkgo]

if you mess up memes, you just embarass yourself

[ancient spade]

Just as I sidenote, cara literally means face, but we use it as dude

[pine ginkgo]

so... in a normal sentence it would mean face?

[ancient spade]

I'm telling you, our Portuguese is broken

[pine ginkgo]

like ... uh there's a spider on your face

[ancient spade]

Yes, depending on the context

[pine ginkgo]

you say cara?

[ancient spade]

Yes

[pine ginkgo]

alright

[tribal warren]

"Há uma aranha na sua cara"

[shy bobcat]

Hay una araña en su cara 😤

[tribal warren]

Da ist eine Spinne in deinem Gesicht

[torn kindle]

Da ist ein penis unter deinem Gesicht

[tribal warren]

Die Frage ist: Wessen?

[ocean robin]

seska at its finest

[placid heath]

its
Meme or English A1?

Oder bin ich A1? xD

[quasi merlin]

Du bist A1, "its" ist richtig

[placid heath]

Kool

[sudden panther]

"its" ist richtig

memes.

[placid heath]

maimais
RDFD

[shy bobcat]

Arrem korrigieren, wenn er über Memes spricht

[ocean robin]

Yooo boi I am C1 at Englishing, so can I memeing

[placid heath]

but german a1

[ocean robin]

😦

[shy bobcat]

a-* 😉

[placid heath]

Maybe A1.5

[ocean robin]

what the fuck

[shy bobcat]

I'm german C-50

[ocean robin]

[shy bobcat]

which is the same as A-

[placid heath]

C-4 💥

[ocean robin]

🤔

[shy bobcat]

😄

[viscid cape]

My pupil will surpass everyone in this discord.

Except for her master, of course.

[shy bobcat]

[placid heath]

TIL https://i.redd.it/n8x1vi17hjfz.jpg

[viscid cape]

o_o

[placid heath]

So tarantulas are french. Bec they like 🐸s

[ocean robin]

AGGGGGH

[viscid cape]

🕷
🐸

[placid heath]

The amazing spiderfrog

[ocean robin]

WHAT BARBARISM IS THAT

[cold vessel]

Krypti, you know the apprentice eventually kills the master, right?

[placid heath]

Nah. It's just a happy spider with its pet.

[cold vessel]

Darth Floppius

[placid heath]

It's treason then

Ironic. She couldn't master the genitive after all those years.

[cold vessel]

That's ... not how that quote goes

[sudden panther]

Day 12424234252: Floop still memeing on here instead of learning for her test.

[placid heath]

idk

i m bad @ memes

[ocean robin]

no shit

[sudden panther]

Tomorrow in #general-2: "Oh memes, I managed to meme up my German test"

[ocean robin]

lol wat

[sudden panther]

loses all hope

[quasi merlin]

Ahh, Discord, why did it change the padding between the last message and the textbox?

[ocean robin]

I don't meme on tests. What did you think wot.

[cold vessel]

Only ours? 🤔

[ocean robin]

I don't meme intentionally 90% of the time on translations, since Arrem said that memeing was prohibited

[sudden panther]

I'm not saying that you're memeing on tests, Floop.

I'm saying that you should consider studying for it instead of wasting time on here. ;)
This server will be here for a long time, we won't just disappear in a day. There'll be enough time for fun and things.

[cold vessel]

Or you could use the server to study

[ocean robin]

You reminded me that I have to correct a math test I did. Huge thankies.

[cold vessel]

You have to correct a test you did? 🤔

[ocean robin]

Yep.

[sudden panther]

Don't let the internet take over your life and affect your school results. That's what counts in the end. 😉
Source: made the exact same mistake when I was a kid

[ocean robin]

Because my mark is near 0 or something. So I need to correct it.

Oh nou Arrem, it doesn't a huge place in my life, to be honest, high school is priority

[opal sequoia]

What was the test on?

[ocean robin]

Algebra. Of course the subject that I was the most confident on.

And I had to fail it dramatically.

[opal sequoia]

Ooh.

I would love to see the test if you are okay showing it.

[ocean robin]

Well I can give you the exercises, but I was so sad and frustrated to see my test given back with that mark that I didn't see my mistakes yet.

[opal sequoia]

I will PM you, one sec.

[sudden panther]

Eh Flops. On the offchance of sounding a bit harsh, being on here the whole evening when you have a test to study for doesn't really support the whole "priority" claim.

[ocean robin]

I agree eh.

I am a little bit lazy here.

[viscid cape]

pats Floppo

Don't worry Floppsy, take a break, go study for a bit. You can come back for some time later again. We'll be here.

Then we can meme a little, then you study a bit more.

[ocean robin]

I think I am done. I spent almost 1 hour on 4 little problems on math.

Ugggh.

[sudden panther]

Post post post post.

[ocean robin]

Well Arrememe, I'll post them, but then I'll sleep right away.

[viscid cape]

Good job @ocean robin

pinches cheek

[pine ginkgo]

Ich glaube krypti entwickelt sowas wie vaterschaftsgefühle, arrem

[ocean robin]

There. I am nooooot confident on the last two. Go Arrememe, torture me on math. :^)

[hot cloak]

oh baby maths

[pine ginkgo]

Factorasing is french, flops?

[hot cloak]

thats cute c:

[ocean robin]

well yes and no

Let's say that I made up this word

[sudden panther]

I don't get it.

[ocean robin]

Wait a sec.

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo Krypti hat doch den Club gejoint 🤔 wie kann er noch Flappy helfen?

[pine ginkgo]

Er war nur temporär drinne

[ocean robin]

All that I needed to do is to factorize all that stuff.

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

Oder.... ist er wieder drin?

[sudden panther]

Flops, evaluate

[sudden panther]

for x = 1

[viscid cape]

I was a brief member

[ocean robin]

let's do that in the bed

And bow I am wondering if I didn't do a silly mistake.

[sudden panther]

If you end up with too big numbers to multiply, you can just leave those.

[ocean robin]

Because I could have flopped here. 🤔

[shy bobcat]

🤔

[ocean robin]

So with x = 1 it could just be:
(7+5) × 9^2 + 16 mmmh
which does: 567 + 405 + 16 = 998.
I think it can't be that. Whether I can't do double distribution (at least, the term for French) or I can't factorize at all and then we must go back to the basics.

[pine ginkgo]

Ehm flops

What is 9x^2 when x is 1

[ocean robin]

But then it's (9×1)^2, right? So 81?

[valid ice]

🤔

[sudden panther]

Eh, there's a thing called operator precedence.

[valid ice]

9x^2 = 9xx ^^

[sudden panther]

Powers are evaluated first, then multiplication and division, then addition and subtraction, unless you have parentheses.

So

[ocean robin]

Aww, the priorities or something?

[sudden panther]

which would be 9 * 1^2 = 9, for x = 1.

[ocean robin]

But 1^2 = 1 🤔

Wait what the hell did I do?

I thought it was 9^2x, huh?

[sudden panther]

And that's ^ what you did.

[ocean robin]

Mmmmh. 🤔

Always thought that it worked like that.

[pine ginkgo]

If you write stuff like 9^2x you have to use parentheses

Otherwise it is very ambiguous in meaning

[sudden panther]

Or straight out wrong.

[ocean robin]

Never thought "oh it's the x which has the square, so let's do that"

[sudden panther]

Also, notice that we evaluate multiplication before addition.

So your original expression

[ocean robin]

🤔

So you do the multiplication in the brackets and then only you add 16?

[sudden panther]

Yes. That's how the thing you wrote would be read. And that's not what you want.

Just like 2+5*2 is 12 and not 14. The same applies for mre complex expressions. Multiply, then divide, unless there are parentheses. If you wanted 2+5*2 to be 14, you'd have to write (2+5)*2 instead.

[shy bobcat]

I think your format memed

[hot cloak]

escape your *s

[opal sequoia]

Btw what name do they have for that order thing in Germany or France? If any. Like here we have bodmas. Do you have one like that?

[ocean robin]

Wait wait wait what.

[shy bobcat]

"bodmas"?

Pemdas.

[ocean robin]

For the priorities of the order thing?

[opal sequoia]

They're the same, yeah. Bodmas, pedmas, pemdas, etc.

[ocean robin]

We just call them "priorités des calculs" 🤔

[shy bobcat]

I've never heard of bodmas

[opal sequoia]

Okay, makes sense, flappy.

[sudden panther]

Apologies Flops, my message got messed up by discord formatting. I've edited it now.

[opal sequoia]

Brackets of, Arizona. I don't really get the "of" but I never used that thing anyway I don't think.

[pine ginkgo]

Base, we dont have a name

[ocean robin]

Makes sense now.

[shy bobcat]

message got memed* up by discord memes*. @sudden panther

[pine ginkgo]

We just learn the order of operations, cause it's not hard

[sudden panther]

^

be gud or git rekt kiddo

[opal sequoia]

Okay, makes sense.

[ocean robin]

Well I do know them but I can't use it correctly. That's the main problem. 🤔

[nocturne spruce]

Base are you sure it's Bodmas not Bedmas?

[pine ginkgo]

While i understand stuff like PEDMAS or whatever can help

[opal sequoia]

It's okay, Flappy. It's all just practice.

All this stuff is just practice practice habits.

[pine ginkgo]

But i notice english/americans have a lot of thooooooose acronyms

[nocturne spruce]

yeah, there are many

[opal sequoia]

It's bodmas.

[ocean robin]

Tommorow I have 2 hours of break. Gonna practice math everyday if I have the motivation to do so.

[viscid cape]

why bodmas?

[opal sequoia]

Bedmas probably exists too.

[nocturne spruce]

weird, I remember the math book having Bedmas

[craggy herald]

It's bidmas too

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin You can practice both maths and German with our help

[opal sequoia]

Brackets of division multiplication addition subtraction.

[pine ginkgo]

I mean if you just use your parentheses properly, you don't really need to care anyway

[opal sequoia]

Anyway sorry for interrupting, just had to know it. 😄

[sudden panther]

Also here are some fun facts.

[nocturne spruce]

Btw Base, I might need help on my analysis homework tomorrow, would you be willing to help?

[hot cloak]

woah

thats magic

[sudden panther]

totally dude

[ocean robin]

Okay I know those Arrem.

[sudden panther]

Well you kinda Floppsed up the first one.

[hot cloak]

smh redundant parentheses

[ocean robin]

How do you call those formulas in English? 🤔

[sudden panther]

What you wrote is

[ocean robin]

oh goddamit

[hot cloak]

there's also

[ocean robin]

Oh dammit.

[pine ginkgo]

Binomische formeln

[ocean robin]

I feel like I flopsed the 2.

🤔

[sudden panther]

Note the + b^2 and not the -b^2.

[craggy herald]

Do ppl memorise this stuff?

[ocean robin]

Yeeeeah.

[pine ginkgo]

Yea

[sudden panther]

You do if you use it on a regular basis.

[hot cloak]

yeah

[pine ginkgo]

Those are easy ones

[hot cloak]

besides, they're not really hard to remember

[ocean robin]

I feel brainwashed wooot, I feel like I forgot everything 👀

[craggy herald]

I just rediscover them every time i need to use it

My brain just can't

[sudden panther]

Just learn the binomial theorem and you've effectively learned all of them.

[pine ginkgo]

As long as you know they exist, you can look them up again, thats fine too

Its just slow

[sudden panther]

ez

[craggy herald]

I've suffered for it though

[ocean robin]

What the heck is this Arrem.

[hot cloak]

this is where it starts getting fun

[shy bobcat]

👀

[ocean robin]

🤔

[shy bobcat]

😱 wtf is that

[pine ginkgo]

Ehehhe

[craggy herald]

Binomial expansion

[ocean robin]

What's that f (x) referring to?

[pine ginkgo]

A function

[hot cloak]

Verteilungsfunktion der Normalverteilung (distribution)

[ocean robin]

I see, but isn't it a specific one?

[pine ginkgo]

A function called F with a variable called x

[sudden panther]

Nothing you can understand at the moment, Flops.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah @nocturne spruce definitely.

[craggy herald]

f (x) can replace y

In like y = x

[ocean robin]

Aw okay.

[sudden panther]

Also botto, screenshotting instead of copying the latex source and pasting it in here. Disappointing.

[nocturne spruce]

Thanks Base

[shy bobcat]

Math scares me

[pine ginkgo]

You imply he has a latex source, arrem

[ocean robin]

I like math but I am scared of it. 🤔

[sudden panther]

He does.

Wikipedia displays all of its formulas using latex. So if you click edit source, you can shamelessly steal them.

[hot cloak]

there

[shy bobcat]

😍

[sudden panther]

❤

[pine ginkgo]

I think you messed up

Oh wait

They are different

[hot cloak]

this one includes the substitution

[ocean robin]

J-just how many numbers I don't know here 🤔

[shy bobcat]

can someone please tell me what the big S means

[pine ginkgo]

Yeah

[opal sequoia]

When you do a lot of maths, this stuff is as natural as breathing. It's like, you don't have to think much about speaking your native language most of the time. It just happens.

[pine ginkgo]

Saw it too late

:(

[hot cloak]

:^(

[pine ginkgo]

It's an integral sign, teeeis

[craggy herald]

Lol

[shy bobcat]

oh yeah I still suck at math

[sudden panther]

It's a

[ocean robin]

Rn we are doing geometry. The thing I hate the most in math. Don't ask me why.

[craggy herald]

^^

[opal sequoia]

Mm, I'm not that into geometry either.

[sudden panther]

Geometry is a meme.

[shy bobcat]

everything is a meme in Arremania

[pine ginkgo]

Be happy you are not doing multi-dimensional stuff

:(

[ocean robin]

Then algebra comes again.

[opal sequoia]

Now that's scary, Luna.

[pine ginkgo]

I know, base

[ocean robin]

But with equations and I am quite good at that. I don't know how good I am in math in fact.

[viscid cape]

Some people say that the inscription "Let no one ignorant in geometry enter" was written at the entrance of Plato's academy

[ocean robin]

wot

[viscid cape]

Floppo you need to motivate yourself to learn it

Geometry is awesome

it's a mathematical description of space.

[ocean robin]

excuse me

[pine ginkgo]

Anyway, flops, hating something is not a reason not to do it

[ocean robin]

Yeah, that wasn't what I meant anyway.

[pine ginkgo]

Also it will help you if you stop saying you hate something all the time

Especially for learning

[viscid cape]

Yes, don't keep repeating that. Otherwise you'll never like it.

You'll always associate it with hatred

[pine ginkgo]

If you react to everything like how you react whenever someone says genitive

[ocean robin]

Because if I don't do it I will have a 0 on the test. And I need to have a reeeeally good mark at this test to catch up the mark I had today.

[pine ginkgo]

You will develop bad habits

[ocean robin]

Oh god yeah.

[viscid cape]

if you study a bit every day, just like you do with german

You can do quite well

[ocean robin]

I think so.

[viscid cape]

And one tip

[ocean robin]

Mhm?

[viscid cape]

Before you attempt the exercises

Read your textbook explanation, without skipping anything

All information you need is there

You can also watch khan-academy videos

They're very slow paced, you can pause when you need

And the explanations are good

[ocean robin]

I must agree that I hate looking on my lessons while doing an exercise because I immediately associate that to cheating

[fair iron]

Apart from that, we can also try our best at explaining concepts. ^^

[viscid cape]

don't worry, that's not cheating. You must first understand the theory, then you apply it to check if you really understood it

And Casca is right

[opal sequoia]

Well, if you can do it perfectly with the text, then you can practice it without the text.

[pine ginkgo]

Cheating would be if you didnt look at your notes to solve exercises

[viscid cape]

True lol

[ocean robin]

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

Cause if you don't understand why and how to solve an exercise

[opal sequoia]

Get it right first though before challenging yourself.

[pine ginkgo]

You cheat yourself out of doing it properly

[sudden panther]

Or just end up writing things that are completley false.

[ocean robin]

^ What I do everytime without noticing it.

[pine ginkgo]

You gotta learn to notice

[ocean robin]

And then when I correct I am "oh, symbol error but apart from that I was right" and then I cry internally

[opal sequoia]

Yep, your double checking skills are important for both German and maths.

[ocean robin]

Because on the test... That was the biggest flop I have ever done. Formulas didn't exist for me this day. I just did things like they were, didn't think about anything, only about time. 🤔

[sudden panther]

Well Flops, that's a direct consequence of you not looking at your notes. They're there to help you learn. Don't just assume things. Check and learn properly.

[ocean robin]

I mean, I don't look them for exercises. I read them again for tests, though.

[viscid cape]

Yes, your notes are very, very important. And your book as well, if you have one.

You need to read them.

n-e-e-d

[ocean robin]

That's what I did today anyway.

Read all the notes of all the subjects I will have tommorow.

[viscid cape]

Very good.

After reading the notes, you try the exercises.

If you are stuck, come back to notes.

If you're still stuck

Videos/books/ask around

[sudden panther]

Until you get to uni. Then the "get stuck" loop might last for a week or so.

[viscid cape]

I really recommend khan academy to you, I think it'd be very helpful if you find the reading tedious

[pine ginkgo]

Infinite loops :(

[valid ice]

Reading off of notes is boring though, I've managed to scrape by fine without so far ^^

[ocean robin]

I think I am going to sleep. I have an headache now.

See you all in a few hours.

"few"

[sudden panther]

Khan Academy is really nice. That's how I lernd 2 calculus a year before I actually needed the stuff. Can definitely recommend for schoollads.

Night.

[fair iron]

Sleep well, Flappy, and get well soon.

[viscid cape]

Good night Floppy. Sleep well and don't put too much pressure on yourself. Just change habits step by step.

[torn latch]

bai fläpps

[viscid cape]

@sudden panther Do you think I should try the programming course they offer?

Being a complete noob in the subject

[hot cloak]

meh lots of js

[viscid cape]

Is that good?

😛

[hot cloak]

no lmao

[viscid cape]

😂

[sudden panther]

JS is a bit of a meme language, yeah.

Just get a nice book or sth.

[pine ginkgo]

Js for dummies

[hot cloak]

just buy books tbh

[viscid cape]

I was strying to use a book to learn Python but I think I'm just too stupid

[sudden panther]

Haha buying books.

[hot cloak]

try to combine everything you've learned with small projects, or just apply new stuff in general

[viscid cape]

First chapter gives a quick course on how to use powershell and i'm already lost lul, I didn't even know powershell was a thing

[sudden panther]

Everyone's stupid when they're just starting out.

[hot cloak]

tbf, powershell is a meme

[viscid cape]

I hope I can understand soon

I'll keep trying

[hot cloak]

what do you need powershell for?

[viscid cape]

he uses it to run the python exercises

[sudden panther]

Using the interpreter obviously.

[hot cloak]

[sudden panther]

You technically don't need it then.

Just use PyCharm.

[hot cloak]

just use your cmd

or pycharm (IDE)

or even IDLE

I guess

[viscid cape]

pycharm, okay, i'll have a look at that

thanks!

[hot cloak]

the community version is free, and you can get the whole pack (all their IDEs) if you're a student

[sudden panther]

If the pastaman could do it, so can you.

[cold vessel]

"buy" books

[opal sequoia]

Krypti, while Khan is the best option for maths , there are a lot of online tutorials for programming. Including interactive.

E.g. try the one berzi just used, codecademy.

[viscid cape]

Base I was trying freecodecamp and I got lost after 10 lessons

I felt stupid as hell

I'll try code academy, then

[opal sequoia]

Okay, if you want, we can always go through it together.

I just did the codecademy course and then a few more things at the start of this year.

For python.

[viscid cape]

Great, I'll be trying code-academy and if I get stuck I'll message you

I'm still on tip calculator

😂

[opal sequoia]

Sure, that's works.

Tbh with programming the first hurdle of getting into it is the hardest by far.

[cold vessel]

Just post in #science if you need help

[pine ginkgo]

#science sucks, it's just people laughing at berzi

And some math nerds

[opal sequoia]

True.

[cold vessel]

Shhh, I'm trying to recruit more victims

[viscid cape]

😂

[pine ginkgo]

Me too, henbri

[opal sequoia]

You can post in coding or ping me or PM. All are fine.

I'm reading merleau-ponty's writing about cézanne, Kryrtipk. It's pretty awesome.

[whole rapids]

everyone is too pro to require help

[opal sequoia]

I need help.

Always. 😸

[viscid cape]

Thank you 👌 That's very nice of you.

Ohh yes, I think I've read that text a long time ago Base.

Talking about perception

(doesn't mean I understood it)

[whole rapids]

It's okay Base, I'll help you become pro like not-me

[opal sequoia]

It's just so nice to read about the ideas of cézanne's painting.

Pro at what, Pferd?

[whole rapids]

coding

[opal sequoia]

Ohh.

Please do.

Before my exam.

[whole rapids]

When is your exam?

By the way, how are you graded? Purely by exam?

[viscid cape]

@opal sequoia I agree, I must confess I really liked the text, even if I didn't understand most of it

[opal sequoia]

60% exam.

15% * 2 assignments.

10% test.

Exam I forget the date about 2 weeks I think.

[viscid cape]

Yes I now remember that he makes quite a fre references to Balzac

Unfortunately I've never read a single page of his

😦

[opal sequoia]

Me neither

[viscid cape]

i like it that you take interest in those things though

you're pretty open minded

[opal sequoia]

Thank you, I appreciate that!

It's just really interesting and fulfilling to learn all these kinds of things though.

[viscid cape]

it is, i'm glad you think so :3

[tribal warren]

Is this philosophy?

I mean like a philosophical text

Btw Base I agree with Kryptik I would have never thought that someone that's interested in this would even consider doing math in Uni, so you do like very different stuff ;D

Usually math people run away from phisolophy, sociology, etc

[viscid cape]

yes that's philosophy, and yes, most maths people hate it

[opal sequoia]

It's a philosophical text but it's primarily about a certain art style.

Why would maths people hate philosophy?

I don't think that's accurate. The two are super closely tied.

[tribal warren]

"Math is applied philosophy"

[pine ginkgo]

well, historically, it is

[viscid cape]

i also think they're tied, but most maths people i know aren't interested

[tribal warren]

It's hard for me to explain in portuguese

I mean english

[pine ginkgo]

you mean german

ehehehehe

[opal sequoia]

But overall you are right because I am more a creative artistic person and always have been, as compared to just the usual maths only type.

[tribal warren]

I'm a math person, I think Philosophy depends, some parts are interesting, some are too boring, so I wouldn't study it, sorry :C

[pine ginkgo]

i think most math people are quite creative

apart from those genius people

[opal sequoia]

Yes, I agree, Luna.

[pine ginkgo]

since you have to think quite abstractly anyway

or learn how to think that way

[tribal warren]

Math people usually aren't really fond of human sciences

[pine ginkgo]

you can also get creative in the process

[opal sequoia]

But I also mean specifically visual arts and writig and stuff.

[pine ginkgo]

philosophy is a very popular uh... minor? for math and physics people

[viscid cape]

i think they're creative too

[opal sequoia]

But yeah, I don't like history and that kind of thing.

I like history but not as a subject at school.

[tribal warren]

well philosophy maybe a bit of an exception, but in my mind the great majority of math people don't like sociology, for example

me too, base

[opal sequoia]

And politics and things. All that stuff, that's where I have trouble.

[tribal warren]

exactly

[pine ginkgo]

applied politics are... meh

[tribal warren]

Base is describing me

[pine ginkgo]

but talking about political concepts is quite interesting

[tribal warren]

Eh, maybe

Talking about studying history, I'm yet to study history today

😛

[gleaming moth]

what part of history?

[pine ginkgo]

moon history

[tribal warren]

I have a test tomorrow, I gotta study Italy and Germany unification, Peace through Strength, The Russian Revolution, and the World Wars

[pine ginkgo]

huh

[gleaming moth]

crash course bismarck gives the middle finger to the danish, then to the austrians then to the french, boom german unification.

[pine ginkgo]

first time i heard of that period called peace through strength

[tribal warren]

oh it isn't that

sorry I searched for the translation for the portuguese term

I think that's something from Reagan or something

[pine ginkgo]

yeah

[tribal warren]

Idk how you call it in english, Armed Peace?

Basically before the 1st war

[pine ginkgo]

still the first time i heard it describing a historical event

[tribal warren]

more like a period

well, it is sorta like a period of peace, and economic prosperity ;D

But yea, those topics aren't that bad

[pine ginkgo]

btw, give me the present conjugations for to be

while you are here :D

[tribal warren]

ser
Eu sou
Tu és
Ele/ela é
Nós somos
Vós sois
Eles/elas são

Você is always the same as Ele
Vocês is always the same as Eles

[pine ginkgo]

🤔

man you guys really hate tu and vós

[tribal warren]

Oh yea quick note, we don't use "to be" for both being somewhere and being something

We denote being places with other verbs, such as "estar"

[pine ginkgo]

btw how many tenses do you have

[tribal warren]

as in like Present, future, etc?

[pine ginkgo]

ye

[tribal warren]

Hmm

tons

[pine ginkgo]

oh god

wHY doES NoONe comPLain AbOUT porTUGueSE inSTeaD

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6 I think

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oh

that's fine then

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maybe more

Idk

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oh fuck you

how do you not know :D

is it complicated?

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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/77/60/cb/7760cb94a8c80c6359d927e3f98220ac--material-didático-cris.jpg

I don't know if it's complicated, I assume it is

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To be honest I usually only study history from the perspective of creative writing, now that I think about it. 😑

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uh

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So like 10 or something

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why is imperfekt grouped inside present

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What?

it's not

It's horizontal

[pine ginkgo]

what

in preterito

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it's grouped inside Präteritum

Yes

[pine ginkgo]

you have perfeito

imperfeito

and mais-que-perfeito

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yea

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wait

holy fuck

this graph sucks

lol.

okay i see

okay, tenses are fine

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perfeito means it was concluded in the past
imperfeito means it either wasn't concluded or took a long time to conclude
mais-que-perfeito means something that was even before something

we don't use mais-que-perfeito composto in the spoken language, just written, it's very common in written portuguese though, specially stories

I mean simple

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so its like plusquamperfekt

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mais-que-perfeito simples

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oh

not then

mhhh

what is the general difference between simples and composto?

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in the example from the chart

oh

you mean in general?

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yeah

[tribal warren]

oh composto means it uses more than 1 verb

and simple just 1 verb

[pine ginkgo]

uh

why?

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composto uses a modal

don't ask me D:

[pine ginkgo]

like what semantic difference is between them?

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well for preterito perfeito, for instance

simples means it's something that was concluded

composto means it's something that's still being done

like in the examples from the chart

simples: Ontem sonhei com você (Yesterday I dreamt about you)

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whats the difference between preterito perfeito composto and imperfeito then

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composto: Tenho sonhado menos (I've been dreaming less)

imperfeito means it wasn't concluded or took a long time to get concluded

preferito perfeito composto means it's being done still

I suck at explaining these sorry I never learned it

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well

if i wasnt concluded

it can still be done

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it can

but it means it wasnt concluded and remained that way

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uh...

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I think?

LOL

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okay, i get what you mean

but i don't think it makes sense

at least explained this way

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I actually had this in school but it just made no sense to understand it like this

or memorize it like this

So I didn't really learn it

you should ask macaco

Or someone that knows good portuguese grammar

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man

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I know other bits, this is not my jam

[pine ginkgo]

i should not pry into this so much

but fuck

this is bugging me

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Deine Herausforderung

[pine ginkgo]

your challenge to explain it properly, cara

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True

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:P