general-2

[pine ginkgo]

uh, friends aren't people, bell?

🤔

[red pewter]

Bevor wir ins Kino gehen, will ich deine Freunde kennenlernen.

[hot cloak]

but I wrote to cbell like 3 times that she should use another verb but she didn't noticed that so I thought let it be kennenlernen

[cold vessel]

"würde gern" was fine, wasn't it? It's like "would like"?

[main frigate]

Kennenlernen can be to meet (to get to know)

[red pewter]

I didn't understand I'm sorry I thought you meant change it to würde gern

[cold vessel]

Which isn't that different from "want" in this context

[ocean robin]

road to B1 is hard

[red pewter]

^^

[ocean robin]

Could we say "möchte" too?

[cold vessel]

Do the road to A2 for now 😛

[hot cloak]

you're doing great, girls!

[ocean robin]

[red pewter]

thank you ❤

[ocean robin]

And me who thought I was already A2

[hot cloak]

yes you can

[ocean robin]

And thankies. ^^

[red pewter]

I still want to be A2 by the end of the year :/

[cold vessel]

By summer for me

[hot cloak]

I think you are A2, aren't you?

[mortal hound]

what do you generally need to know for A2

[cold vessel]

I really need to start focusing on vocab

[red pewter]

watttt really??

[hot cloak]

@mortal hound https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages

[ocean robin]

I want to get B1 at the end of the year, or in middle 2018 at least

The more I work, the more I think I won't get B1 in 2017

[hot cloak]

I made B2 in 8 months but I've learned German every day for 3 hours at least

[red pewter]

wow!!!

you must be super smart

[mortal hound]

Danke

[hot cloak]

nope, I'm just a hardworker with a motivation

[west harness]

Hi

[ocean robin]

[red pewter]

I feel like I haven't made much progress T_T

[hot cloak]

can't say that i am supersmartypants

[red pewter]

hi copper ❤

[ocean robin]

Same Bell

[hot cloak]

hey!

[west harness]

[ocean robin]

But when you look to my first and second text I did

You see that I made huge progress although I don't feel it

[red pewter]

it's awesome you have benchmarks 😃

[mortal hound]

I just need a better organized lesson plan

[red pewter]

I just have to keep reminding myself that this time last month, I was learning the alphabet

and it's okay not to be perfect

[ocean robin]

Just for comparison

The first text I did in ~end July had 100 words

[mortal hound]

I’ve been listening to a podcast everyday called Learn In Your Car and it’s pretty good

[cold vessel]

You've only been studying for a month, bell?

[ocean robin]

The second that ×10 more

[red pewter]

yep, started a month ago!

[ocean robin]

[cold vessel]

Impressive!

[west harness]

You should listen to the coffee break German podcast

[hot cloak]

Flapps, really impressive!

[cold vessel]

I've been studying for far too long for my level

[red pewter]

wow, 1000 words floppers? that's a ton!!!

[mortal hound]

Ohhh I used to!

[ocean robin]

Getting A2 in a month. Congrats.

[mortal hound]

It’s super good

[hot cloak]

cbell, you're doing awesome

👏

[west harness]

Yeah I loved that podcast

[ocean robin]

Hahaha, thanks! I had a lot of inspiration.

[red pewter]

haha I don't feel A2 just yet ❤ but I'm going to keep trying to catch up to you guys

[west harness]

Übung macht den Meister

[ocean robin]

Just like me who doesn't feel C1 yet in Englishing :v

[mortal hound]

I still rely on a translator or dictionary more than I’d care to admit

[red pewter]

you totally are c1 in english

[whole rapids]

For: Before we go into the cinema, I want to meet your friends.

Bevor wir ins Kino gehen, will ich deine Freunde treffen. is correct, if we were meeting them for the first time.

but also:

Bevor wir ins Kino gehen, will ich mich mit deinen Freunden treffen. could also work if we were meeting up with them and we were going to go into the cinema together.

but tbh I'm confused now

[ocean robin]

TLDR <3

[west harness]

Flaps I forget you're French all the time

[ocean robin]

[whole rapids]

wait until you hear her speak

[ocean robin]

^

[sudden panther]

You should hear her struggle with the H.

[red pewter]

she's so cute ❤

[ocean robin]

jesus please not the H

[quasi merlin]

'orrible

[sudden panther]

INTER ERMANN ANNES AUS

[ocean robin]

LOL

[whole rapids]

@ocean robin and @red pewter, more sentences with the DREADED subordinate clauses?

[ocean robin]

AHHHH

[west harness]

Can I try too

[red pewter]

I'll take as many as you throw at me 😉

[ocean robin]

^

[hot cloak]

sure you can

[red pewter]

copper yes! join us!

[west harness]

Bitte 😁

[whole rapids]

NO YOU ARE FORBI- of course

[west harness]

Yay

[ocean robin]

I was real good on the beginning though 😦

[mortal hound]

I wanna try but im scared haha

[whole rapids]

just yolo it

[hot cloak]

try it!

[ocean robin]

LOL

[west harness]

Do it too

[red pewter]

we've made a million mistakes haha

make them with us!

[hot cloak]

May I try too

[sudden panther]

#flopstorture is slowly evolving into #aleveltorture
I approve of this.

[ocean robin]

natives can conform

[west harness]

You might be better than us

[pine ginkgo]

conform

[ocean robin]

Arrem please

[hot cloak]

[whole rapids]

but you're B level, foxy kun?

[sudden panther]

Conform to what?

[red pewter]

CONFORM NATIVES

[hot cloak]

just asking

sure I wont

[ocean robin]

Solet that was intentional 🤔 I was memeing "confirm"

[whole rapids]

well, don't see a problem with it

[sudden panther]

B level laddies can get sentences as well.

[whole rapids]

"intentional"

[hot cloak]

I thought y'all would be like Yaaa suree do it sis

[cold vessel]

Doesn't really work when you use a legit word, flappy

[whole rapids]

I just mean, probably give you different sentences than the A levels

[ocean robin]

yes it was

[hot cloak]

😅

[ocean robin]

yes also

[whole rapids]

like, harder sentences

[west harness]

Do you hate us

[hot cloak]

no thanks my brain is dead now I'm going to sleep

haha it was just a joke

come on

[ocean robin]

[sudden panther]

I like making them think of their own sentences. Cop how about something that has three different cases?

[ocean robin]

I slept at 3 AM yesterday because of sentences.

Was good.

[viscid cape]

Can confirm that - 3 AM and she was still slacking off

[ocean robin]

And Arrem that's torture again :v

[sudden panther]

I could have said 4.

[ocean robin]

And Bell and I? What do we do?

NO HELL NO

[sudden panther]

You would have gotten 4.

[ocean robin]

PLEASE ARREM

[whole rapids]

like this one for B level:

In front of the fox was its prey, which stared at him with wide open eyes, and to his left was a small bird, watching the incident unfold with curious eyes.

[ocean robin]

PLEASE.

[west harness]

I got one

[ocean robin]

@whole rapids Is this my description?

[whole rapids]

the prey would hunt you

[sudden panther]

You can give me a sentence with 2 genitives. And a preposition.

[whole rapids]

that's for @hot cloak

[ocean robin]

LOL WHAT

NOOOOO ARREM

[hot cloak]

my english isnt that good to understand the sentence 😝 😂

[red pewter]

we haven't really used much genetive :33

[sudden panther]

Flops has.

[whole rapids]

what don't you understand?

I can reword it

[ocean robin]

was good when genitive wasn't there tbh

[hot cloak]

neee

[whole rapids]

okay, I do something else

[hot cloak]

I'm too lasy to think

but thanjs

it's 23:36 at me

[west harness]

Nevermind lmao

[red pewter]

I haven't slept since wednesday night!

[hot cloak]

and i am an early bird :P

[ocean robin]

Die Katze der Frau spielt mit dem Hund des Mannes. unoriginal ™

Wait.

[red pewter]

I thought we were gettting english T_T

[whole rapids]

After the exciting film, the group of friends went home.

[sudden panther]

Adjective. And check your genders.

[ocean robin]

bleh

adjectives?

[hot cloak]

mit + ??

[ocean robin]

WHAT

[west harness]

Der man gibt der Frau einen Hund

[quasi merlin]

FLÄPPERS PRODUCED A CORRECT SENTENCE!

[ocean robin]

CAN YOU SEE THAT

[whole rapids]

After the exciting film, the group of friends went home. @west harness @red pewter @red pewter try this

oops cbell twice

[ocean robin]

LOL DAT FAIL

[whole rapids]

@ocean robin

I just like cbell twice as much as you

[ocean robin]

🤔

[west harness]

Was I supposed to use genetiv

[ocean robin]

I don't know how to feel about that but okay

[whole rapids]

Nur Spaß, Kleine

[sudden panther]

No cop. I said any 3 cases. Just check your spelling of man.

[hot cloak]

die arme Flappy :(

[west harness]

Mann whoops

[sudden panther]

Correct.

[west harness]

🤗

[red pewter]

Danach der aufregende Film, die Gruppe von Freunden nach Haus ging.

[cold vessel]

cbell, remember what you did wrong when you looked up "before"?

[red pewter]

yeah but I really would think this would be an adverb this time

[whole rapids]

what dictionary are you using, cbell?

[red pewter]

is it seriously not?

[hot cloak]

although I did not have much money, I bought a beautiful lamp in a fashion store to give it to my mom for her birthday.

how about that

[whole rapids]

is the "after" an adverb or a conjunction?

[red pewter]

it's totally an adverb

[whole rapids]

n0n

[sudden panther]

One day I'll make you all read stories to learn sme vocab. And then we'll have examples that aren't all about men, women, cats and dogs.

[red pewter]

it's an adverb of time T_T

[whole rapids]

was "before" an adverb of time?

in the previous sentence?

[red pewter]

fine, I'll change it

Nachdem der aufregende Film, die Gruppe von Freunden nach Haus ging.

[cold vessel]

cbell, can you identify the main and subclause for us?

[red pewter]

after the exciting film- sub

[ocean robin]

Danach der aufregnende Film die Gruppe von Freunden nach Hause gegangen sind.
🤔

[red pewter]

group going home- main

[west harness]

Nach dem aufregende Film, die Gruppe von Freunde nach Hause ging

How do you make it gray lmao

[ocean robin]

i need halp

[red pewter]

tickies

[hot cloak]

coppercot you are closer

[red pewter]

~ ~

same key as that but no shif

[ocean robin]

I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT SUBORDINATING SHOULD BE

[west harness]

What's wrong with it

[cold vessel]

Why did everyone push the verb to the end 🤔

[hot cloak]

endings and the verbs position

[red pewter]

flaps

[whole rapids]

because fuck verbs

[red pewter]

if it can be on its own as a sentence its a main clause. If not, it's sub

[hot cloak]

there is no nebensatz

[sudden panther]

What's the original?

[ocean robin]

First, I was going to say: Danach der aufregnende Film, die Gruppe von Freunden sind nach Hause gegangen.

[west harness]

Nach dem aufregende Film, Gruppe von Freunde ging nach Hause

[ocean robin]

And I forgot a comma.

[west harness]

Die Gruppe

[ocean robin]

Nice.

[mortal hound]

Nach dem aufregend Film, gehen nach Hause die Gruppe Freunden.

[quasi merlin]

"aufregnende "

An up-raining movie? 🤔

[ocean robin]

lol what

[whole rapids]

After the exciting film, the group of friends went home.

[cold vessel]

@hot cloak Does the first part not count as a Nebensatz?

[quasi merlin]

regnen => to rain, Flops

[ocean robin]

wow

[hot cloak]

@sudden panther After the exciting film, the group of friends went home.

[ocean robin]

how couldn't i see that word

[quasi merlin]

You typo'd again.

[whole rapids]

maybe the "after" is neither adverb or conjunction L0L

[ocean robin]

AHHHHH

[red pewter]

preposition...?

[hot cloak]

@cold vessel nope

[ocean robin]

the hell

[whole rapids]

🙃

[sudden panther]

In this case it's a preposition. Nachdem is a conjunction.

[west harness]

Oh you can make it one word?

[ocean robin]

how to confuse flops - part 2

[cold vessel]

Fucking hell, now I'm confused

[red pewter]

Nach dem aufregende Film, die Gruppe von Freunden ging nach Haus

[whole rapids]

yeah, sorry, I fuelled a bit of Arrem in me when I answered you before, cbell

[hot cloak]

a nebensatz has his own sentence structure subject + verb

[whole rapids]

cbell, everything you know about commas in English

[red pewter]

we have a word for that other than nebesatz

[whole rapids]

delete it

[hot cloak]

"after the exciting film" doesn't have it

[red pewter]

Nach dem aufregende Film die Gruppe von Freunden ging nach Haus

[whole rapids]

okay good

but what does the verb ALWAYS do in a main sentence?

[hot cloak]

and second position, @red pewter

[sudden panther]

Making it into one word changes it up a bit cop. It should be separate here.

[ocean robin]

Danach der aufregende Film sind die Gruppe von Freunden nach Hause gegangen.

Was second attempt.

[hot cloak]

wtf

[red pewter]

Nach dem aufregende Film ging die Gruppe von Freunden nach Haus

[ocean robin]

[quasi merlin]

Fläppers, "danach" is the wrong word and adjective ending.

[whole rapids]

yay

[ocean robin]

seriously i feel like I am in derp mode

[quasi merlin]

Bella, adjective ending ^^

[hot cloak]

and ending of the adjective, @red pewter

[ocean robin]

Wait.

[whole rapids]

well, you probably don't know this, but "homeward" is "nach Hause" in German

[ocean robin]

"Nach dem"?

[cold vessel]

Can someone give an example of sentences where "after" is used as a:

1. Adverb
2. Preposition
3. Conjunction
   I'm confused ...

[ocean robin]

geeez

[whole rapids]

in English or German?

[cold vessel]

English

[quasi merlin]

^

[sudden panther]

Danach is an adverb or something as well. You need a preposition flops.

[red pewter]

Nach dem aufregenden Film ging die Gruppe von Freunden nach Haus

[ocean robin]

But why nach?

[whole rapids]

because homes are special

[ocean robin]

It feels sooooo wierd oh my god

[whole rapids]

they also get an extra -e at the end

[ocean robin]

I don't care about the "nach Hause" but the "nach dem"

[hot cloak]

nach HausE

[quasi merlin]

"after + noun" => "nach + noun (Dat.)"

[ocean robin]

🤔

Oooookay then

[west harness]

nachdem aufregende Film ging die Gruppe nach Hause

[sudden panther]

Also nach Hause is an exception, not the standard. You normally don't need the E.

[quasi merlin]

"after + clause" = "nachdem + clause"

[red pewter]

Nach dem aufregenden Film ging die Gruppe von Freunden nach Hause

[hot cloak]

@ocean robin cause it's not a nebensatz so you don't need a conjunction

[whole rapids]

After is used in the following ways:

as a preposition (followed by a noun):
I went for a swim after breakfast.

as an adverb (without a following noun):
He died on June 3rd and was buried the day after.

as a conjunction (connecting two clauses):
After you’d left, I got a phone call from Stuart.
@cold vessel

[sudden panther]

Making it into one word changes it up a bit cop. It should be separate here. 😉

[west harness]

Ugh

[red pewter]

am I done?

[ocean robin]

Nach dem aufregenden Film sind die Gruppe von Freunden nach Hause gegangen.

[red pewter]

yay!

[hot cloak]

yep

[whole rapids]

you are done

[quasi merlin]

"after" in German:

preposition: "nach"
adverb: "danach"
conjunction: "nachdem"

[cold vessel]

Thank you, Pferd

[west harness]

Nice

[sudden panther]

What's the plurality of die Gruppe Flops?

[ocean robin]

wtf

There's several groups?

[sudden panther]

Is it singular or plural?

[whole rapids]

you might know "afterwards" as well, instead of "after" as an adverb

[ocean robin]

That's singular, plural is "Gruppen"

[red pewter]

I took the test after lunch. After the party, we went home. After I saw you, I knew I was in love.

another example

[sudden panther]

Yes. So why did you use sind then?

[ocean robin]

faceplams

[whole rapids]

@red pewter While we wait, could you perhaps change your sentence to use genitive instead of dative?

[hot cloak]

although I did not have much money, I bought a beautiful lamp in a fashion store to give it to my mom for her birthday.

how about that

[red pewter]

Uh yeah I can try

[hot cloak]

all cases ^

[cold vessel]

@red pewter Isn't it a preposition in both your first and second sentence?

[ocean robin]

Nach dem aufregenden Film ist die Gruppe von Freunden nach Hause gegangen.

[red pewter]

no

it's the difference between word, phrase and clause

After the exciting film, the group of friends went home.

[cold vessel]

Is it an adverb in "I took the test after lunch" and a preposition in "After lunch, I took the test"?

[whole rapids]

the first one sounds like a preposition to me as well

[quasi merlin]

It's a preposition in both sentences.

[whole rapids]

as it has a noun

[red pewter]

ugh this is the problem in that prepositional phrases are all adverbs

so then you get overlap

it's a preposition AND and adverb

[quasi merlin]

"after + clause" => conjunction
"after + noun" => preposition
"after(wards)" => adverb

[red pewter]

i just double dipped unfortunately

[sudden panther]

So nice when Flop can flop.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[sudden panther]

Anyway laddies my battery is almost ded so I'll see you all in an hour or so.

[west harness]

Bye arrem

[ocean robin]

Sure.

[red pewter]

Nach dem aufregenden Film ging die Gruppe der Freunden nach Hause

genetive?

[hot cloak]

@sudden panther cya

[whole rapids]

ya

10 points to Gryffindor

[quasi merlin]

"Freunden" is wrong

[whole rapids]

oh ya, missed that

becuz I always forget that plural

[west harness]

Freunde?

[hot cloak]

10 points are taken from Gryffindor

[red pewter]

but plural just says add en :?

umlaut?

[hot cloak]

-en- in dative

[whole rapids]

yeah, plurals are tricksy in dative

[hot cloak]

der Freund/dir Freundin - die Freunde

[red pewter]

yeah it's freunde

[whole rapids]

they always want to end in -n (with exceptions of course)

[hot cloak]

but in dative the plural form has -n

[red pewter]

Nach dem aufregenden Film ging die Gruppe der Freunde nach Hause

[west harness]

That's what I said lol

[quasi merlin]

✅

[red pewter]

😄 ❤

[whole rapids]

I believe the fox creature had a nice sentence for y'all

[hot cloak]

although I did not have much money, I bought a beautiful lamp in a fashion store to give it to my mom for her birthday.

[red pewter]

omg

cracks knuckles

[whole rapids]

gg brain

[hot cloak]

thank you, Pferd 💋

[whole rapids]

💋

[hot cloak]

no genitive tho

hmm

[whole rapids]

just leave it as is

[hot cloak]

May you add it?

to make them cry

[quasi merlin]

Buying a lamp in a fashion store? As in, a store for clothing?

[hot cloak]

@quasi merlin I speak no English

[whole rapids]

naw, don't wanna be mean

just roll with it

[ocean robin]

Obwohl ich not zu viel Geld hatte, ich habe eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zum Geburtstag zu geben.
derp continues @_@

[cold vessel]

not

[viscid cape]

I'm back

[whole rapids]

not Was für ein Wort ist das denn?

[ocean robin]

oh shit

nicht zu viel

[hot cloak]

oieee fast gut gemacht, Flapps

[ocean robin]

[whole rapids]

the times of 5 hour waits for a sentence are gone

[ocean robin]

Obwohl ich nicht zu viel Geld hatte, ich habe eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zum Geburtstag zu geben.

[hot cloak]

I see only one mistake

[ocean robin]

WHAT

[quasi merlin]

I see two

[whole rapids]

I see two

[hot cloak]

[red pewter]

Obwohl ich viele Geld nicht habe, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modegeschäft um meine Mutter für sie Gebertstag zu geben gekauft

that's where i'm at

it's a mess i know

[whole rapids]

not a mess

[hot cloak]

"for her birthday"?

[whole rapids]

"for she birthday"?

[hot cloak]

is this the mistake you see?

[red pewter]

Obwohl ich viele Geld nicht habe, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modegeschäft um meine Mutter für ihr Gebertstag zu geben gekauft

[whole rapids]

I see something else, I think that part is fine, fox

[hot cloak]

hmmmm

[red pewter]

I really desperately need pronoun practice

[hot cloak]

you had money, but not enough

but you had it

[whole rapids]

well, cbell clearly remembers the position of the subordinate clause in the main sentence, which @ocean robin does not

[ocean robin]

Saw that mistake too :/

[quasi merlin]

Fläppers, word order and why "zu viel"?

[ocean robin]

Don't underestimate me plox

[red pewter]

it just said much money :?

not enough :?

[ocean robin]

Ah.

not a lot

I said "not a lot".

[viscid cape]

I'm confused

[hot cloak]

@red pewter I'm speaking about your "nicht" placement

[ocean robin]

Well Flapps, that was not correcto.

[red pewter]

oh okay

[quasi merlin]

"zu viel" => "too much", but it doesn't work here, Fläppers.

[red pewter]

although I did not have much money, I bought a beautiful lamp in a fashion store to give it to my mom for her birthday.

bringing it back

[whole rapids]

English once more:

Although I did not have much money, I bought a beautiful lamp in a fashion store to give it to my mom for her birthday.

[ocean robin]

Ah.

Obwohl ich nicht zu viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zum Geburtstag zu geben.

[red pewter]

Obwohl ich nicht viele Geld habe, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modegeschäft um meine Mutter für ihr Gebertstag zu geben gekauft

[thick charm]

Still at it, I see

[ocean robin]

So 1 mistake left for me?

[quasi merlin]

Why "zu viel" Fläppers?

[whole rapids]

yeah man

they won't submit

[thick charm]

Have you made any progress?

[ocean robin]

🤔

YEAH CHOK

[whole rapids]

they're doing well

[ocean robin]

I HAVE 2 MISTAKES ON THAT LONG SENTENCE

[thick charm]

Wait Bell, are you still awake?

[ocean robin]

even if I don't see that k

[thick charm]

Well done, Flappy!

I see em

[ocean robin]

So "zu viel"

[quasi merlin]

Bella, "viele" doesn't work for uncountable things. You said "many money"

[ocean robin]

Uuuuh.

[red pewter]

I need dative case

uh okay I'll look up much

[hot cloak]

um ... zu is a nebensatz, you need a comma here

[ocean robin]

Much is viel/sehr :v

You're talking to whom?

Because I put a comma, I think

[quasi merlin]

Fläppers.

[ocean robin]

Yes.

[quasi merlin]

Just listen to me, Flops.

[hot cloak]

to Bella

[ocean robin]

Yes.

[quasi merlin]

Fix your "zu viel", look at the original sentence.

"zu viel" means "too much"

[red pewter]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld habe, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modegeschäft, um meiner Mutter für ihr Gebertstag zu geben gekauft

[ocean robin]

geez

I just need to delete the zu

[pine ginkgo]

Gebertstag

eheheh

[ocean robin]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zum Geburtstag zu geben.

[quasi merlin]

Bella, the "gekauft" is still part of the second clause.

[hot cloak]

cbell, the time ^

[cold vessel]

Can you say "so viel"?

[quasi merlin]

To mean what, henbruas?

[hot cloak]

ich habe so viel Geld, dass ich ein tolles Auto kaufen kann @cold vessel

[quasi merlin]

Ah, wait stop waiting, yes you can

[red pewter]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld habe, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modegeschäft gekauft, um meiner Mutter für ihr Geburtstag zu geben

[hot cloak]

@red pewter almost

[ocean robin]

And me where's my mistakes :v

[west harness]

~Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zum Ihren Geburtstag zu geben~

No my tilde didn't work

[red pewter]

tick marks! no shift!

[west harness]

Aw

[ocean robin]

``

[hot cloak]

one mistake, copper

[whole rapids]

to the her birthday?

[ocean robin]

^

[west harness]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter für Ihren Geburtstag zu geben

Yay it worked

[thick charm]

Also Flappy I think you fixed them all

[west harness]

I'm on mobile it took me forever to find the tick

[thick charm]

I don't see any mistakes right now

[red pewter]

why is everyone adding sie

[whole rapids]

zu was fine

[hot cloak]

cbell, one more mistake

[thick charm]

sie

[ocean robin]

yayies

[thick charm]

die Lampe

[red pewter]

um sie meiner Mutter

to give IT to her?

[quasi merlin]

The "sie" refers to the lamp

[thick charm]

yes

[red pewter]

okay

[hot cloak]

die Lampe -> sie

[red pewter]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld habe, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modegeschäft gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter für ihr Geburtstag zu geben

[hot cloak]

das Papier -> es

[quasi merlin]

I'd use "zu" for birthday.

[hot cloak]

didn't have much money

[red pewter]

I get those, I guess I just wasn't aware we needed an it, but it makes sense 😃

[whole rapids]

I shall now also attempt

[red pewter]

jfc there literally was one in the sentence. ofc we needed one

[west harness]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zu Ihren Geburtstag zu geben

[quasi merlin]

Still one mistake, copper.

[hot cloak]

so I have to go to sleep, cya !

[quasi merlin]

"zu" takes Dative

[west harness]

Where at?

[ocean robin]

[red pewter]

bye fox ❤

[west harness]

Oh I was thinking für

[red pewter]

thank you!

[west harness]

Whoops

[quasi merlin]

Good night, Fox.

[west harness]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zum Ihrem Geburtstag zu geben

[ocean robin]

Good nighto, Fox.

[west harness]

Night fox

[red pewter]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld habe, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modegeschäft gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter für ihr Geburtstag zu geben

[quasi merlin]

"zu__m__" is "to the"

[west harness]

Zu whoops

I copied and pasted the last one and forgot the fix that

I meant zu though

[whole rapids]

Obwohl ich wenig Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zum Geburtstag zu schenken. my attempt

[ocean robin]

"lamp"

[whole rapids]

derp

[ocean robin]

🤔

[red pewter]

wenig, less, nice one

[west harness]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zu Ihrem Geburtstag zu geben

My final sentence

[pine ginkgo]

i see one

[west harness]

Fuck me

[quasi merlin]

Small "i", please 👀

[red pewter]

why did everyone settle on hatte over habe?

[ocean robin]

Hatte = had 😛

[west harness]

Oh that's my phone automatically correcting it

[quasi merlin]

I think the original sentence used past perfect

That's why

[ocean robin]

Wait, past perfect?

[quasi merlin]

past perfect

[west harness]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modeladen gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zu ihrem Geburtstag zu geben

Oops wrong tick

[ocean robin]

lol

[quasi merlin]

Correct, Copper.

[west harness]

There

[red pewter]

oh okay

[west harness]

Aaaayyyyy

[cold vessel]

In the last clause, is this the neutral word order? Direct object before indirect? It's the opposite of what you usually see

[west harness]

😉

[quasi merlin]

Bella, try to use "zu" instead of "für"

[red pewter]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modegeschäft gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter für ihr Geburtstag zu geben

[whole rapids]

@cold vessel pronouns precede nouns

[pine ginkgo]

huh, henbri?

[ocean robin]

What Mika says.

[quasi merlin]

Yes, it is, henbruas.

Bella, try to use "zu" instead of "für"

"zu" + Dative

[red pewter]

Obwohl ich nicht viel Geld hatte, habe ich eine schöne Lampe in einem Modegeschäft gekauft, um sie meiner Mutter zu ihrem Geburtstag zu geben

[quasi merlin]

I'll just pretend the first "habe" is a "hatte" 😛

And then it's correct.

[cold vessel]

@pine ginkgo I just mean that you'd usually say "Ich gebe meiner Mutter eine Lampe", not "Ich gebe eine Lampe meiner Mutter". Why does "sie" come before "meiner Mutter" now?

[red pewter]

it was but i must have copied the wrong version

[quasi merlin]

Pronouns before nouns

Henbruas

[red pewter]

because i rewrote that like 30 times

[cold vessel]

Is that a general thing?

[whole rapids]

@cold vessel because pronouns precede nouns, dative n precedes accusative

well, that's not quite correct

accusative pronoun precedes dative pronoun

[cold vessel]

TIL. Never heard of this before

[whole rapids]

Pronouns precede nouns; dative noun precedes accusative noun; accusative pronoun precedes dative pronoun

[quasi merlin]

That sounds complicated

[ocean robin]

TIL.

[whole rapids]

yeah, not the best explanation, but I think accurate

[red pewter]

Wrote that down for later

i'm gonna compile all my sentences for reference when I'm less dead inside

[whole rapids]

I have been ordered to clean the house. It's been fun guys, see you later.

[red pewter]

7 hours of making sentences. They deserve preservation

thanks so much for your help! ❤

[viscid cape]

Good job bell'o'bell

[red pewter]

I think it's time to think about trying to sleep again

[whole rapids]

no worries, any time, y'all did well

[red pewter]

no, really, you guys really have helped me a lot

[viscid cape]

Just don't trust Pferd's tips and you'll be fine

[whole rapids]

what 😦

[ocean robin]

7 hours if translation sentences, and I am not finished yet

Also poor Pferd. :v

[red pewter]

i feel so much more powerful

[viscid cape]

What sentence are you on Flappo

[red pewter]

Like I can say so much more

[ocean robin]

I already finished it a while ago ^^

[viscid cape]

@red pewter 'Tis the might of german

[red pewter]

I want to learn it all ❤

[ocean robin]

Must agree that I feel stronger than the rest of my classmates for German :v

[red pewter]

^^^

[viscid cape]

Crush them

[west harness]

I have no classmates

So I'm the best one

[red pewter]

you're stronger than me in our virtual class too 😉

[viscid cape]

You have Leprechauns

[ocean robin]

Will do but in a sympathetic way

Awww thanks Bell! ❤

[west harness]

Oh this again ey

[red pewter]

alright hopefully the sleep fairies think i've earned it. I've been up for...68 hours?

something like that.

[west harness]

Good luck cbell

[red pewter]

tysm ❤

[west harness]

You deserve the sleep

[red pewter]

[ocean robin]

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin Let me know when you want more exercises from the book

[west harness]

I do

[viscid cape]

Kay hold on

Where did we stop last time

[west harness]

I don't remember

[west harness]

The cases?

Aaaah gross

[viscid cape]

gross? 😂

[west harness]

Okay 1. Den

Yes im so bad at these

2. Den

[pine ginkgo]

ttehehehehehe

[ocean robin]

LOL SOLET

[west harness]

I don't remember which ones become Dativ or Akkusativ cause it's kind of random

[ocean robin]

nope

It's not random.

[pine ginkgo]

so... are you guessing?

[viscid cape]

@west harness Try answering everything at once

[west harness]

Yes

[mortal hound]

3. would be DIe?

[hot cloak]

🤔

[mortal hound]

Die

[viscid cape]

And no guessing, otherwise you're not learning

I want reasons for your answers

[west harness]

How do I know which are Dativ

[cold vessel]

You look it up

[west harness]

And which are Akkusativ

[viscid cape]

You look at either the verb or the preposition

And look up whether they govern dative

[west harness]

Then I'd have to memorize it all which would mean they're random and have no pattern

Which wouldn't surprise me in German lol

[viscid cape]

It's not random mate, dative is used mostly for indirect objects

As for prepositions, yes, you have to memorise them

[west harness]

Yeah I meant prepositions

I want to die

Ich will tot sein

How's that

[hot cloak]

Oh

[viscid cape]

aus außer bei mit nach seit von zu (gegenüber)

You can memorise that easily

In one afternoon

[west harness]

But I have to remember individually which case they take don't I?

[viscid cape]

These always take dative

[west harness]

Oh

[viscid cape]

I mean, gegenüber doesn't

Nevermind it does, always I think

Let me check

[west harness]

I hope so

[viscid cape]

Yeah it does

So these always take dative

[ocean robin]

1. Er fährt jeden Tag mit dem Auto. 2. Gegenüber das Rathaus ist der Stadtpark. 3. Sie kommt gerade aus der Stadt. 4. Das neue Hotel gibt es seit einem Jahr. 5. Wie komme ich zum Bahnhof? 6. Wo geht es zum Gedächtniskirche? 7. Was machst du nach der Arbeit? 8. Vor einer Woche hat sie geheiratet. 9. Sie hilft der Frau. 10. Das gehört den Mann. 11. Der Kommissar folgt den Leuten. 12. Er dankt dem Mitarbeiteren.
here is a present

[west harness]

Oh my

[ocean robin]

thougj I know there are errors so waito

[viscid cape]

Banned

[ocean robin]

Thankies a lot

[viscid cape]

Jk

@west harness Don't look and make your own sentences

So @ocean robin

[ocean robin]

Yeah?

[viscid cape]

What kind of word is gegenüber

[ocean robin]

But it's not Akk?

Afaik it can be Akk or Dat

[hot cloak]

Honestly, guys, I feel the best method for memorisation is to write it down to begin with. Do that a few times until you can write it from memory. Then find methods to use it in sentences. Perhaps make up some sentences in your head (once you've gotten to a stage where this is possible.) Don't be fretting about memorisation, if you find a method that works for you it isn't so terrifying (since German really is scary)

[viscid cape]

Yeah that's true.

It might work.

@ocean robin Answer my question first, what sort of word it is?

Tip: it doesn't have a case

[ocean robin]

I did that for prepositions and it worked 💯

WAIT WHAT

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[viscid cape]

Interpret what I'm asking

Then you'll see it's nothing surprising

[ocean robin]

🤔

[viscid cape]

The word "gegenüber"

What is it?

[ocean robin]

Isn't it "next to" or something?

mmmh

[west harness]

It's not a preposition?

[viscid cape]

Yes, a preposition.

[ocean robin]

TIL.

[quasi merlin]

What

[placid heath]

Die Häuser auf der einen Straßenseite stehen den Häusern auf der anderen Straßenseite gegenüber

[viscid cape]

So, prepositions govern particular cases. Gegenüber governs only one case.

[quasi merlin]

Please no Duden memes, LordKorea.

[viscid cape]

Which is?

[ocean robin]

I WANT TO SAY AKK.

wait.

Nope.

Not acc.

Dat.

[viscid cape]

Good. So fix it.

[ocean robin]

Acc = ohne, durch, um, and I forgot 2. Nice.

1. Er fährt jeden Tag mit dem Auto.
2. Gegenüber das Rathaus ist dem Stadtpark.
3. Sie kommt gerade aus der Stadt.
4. Das neue Hotel gibt es seit einem Jahr.
5. Wie komme ich zum Bahnhof?
6. Wo geht es zum Gedächtniskirche?
7. Was machst du nach der Arbeit?
8. Vor einer Woche hat sie geheiratet.
9. Sie hilft der Frau.
10. Das gehört den Mann.
11. Der Kommissar folgt den Leuten.
12. Er dankt dem Mitarbeiteren.

[viscid cape]

Did you fix it? 🤔

[ocean robin]

I did 🤔

[viscid cape]

In 2.?

[pine ginkgo]

wait

how did you turn correct into wrong

actually

wait

wtf flaps

i am confuzzled

[ocean robin]

wait what

confused solet makes me confused

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin What noun is "gegenüber" with?

[ocean robin]

IDK my man, the exercise is like that

[viscid cape]

😂

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

lol.

[viscid cape]

So, listen.

The exercise reads

What noun is being governed by "gegenüber"?

[ocean robin]

Das Rathaus?

[viscid cape]

Yes.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[viscid cape]

So what do you have to do with it?

[ocean robin]

the hell is thag question

uuuuuj

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

krypti, when will you get insane

[viscid cape]

Didn't we agree that "gegenüber" is used with a noun in a specific case?

[ocean robin]

Yeeeeah? Dat?

[west harness]

Gegenüber dem Rathaus?

[viscid cape]

^

[ocean robin]

Wait wtf

I ddi on the wrong article

faceplams

[west harness]

Gegenüber is a preposition that uses Dativ

[viscid cape]

😂

[west harness]

Lol

[viscid cape]

You got schooled by the irish

[west harness]

Poor flappy

[pine ginkgo]

i think it should be renamed

faceflops

[ocean robin]

1. Er fährt jeden Tag mit dem Auto.
2. Gegenüber dem Rathaus ist der Stadtpark.
3. Sie kommt gerade aus der Stadt.
4. Das neue Hotel gibt es seit einem Jahr.
5. Wie komme ich zum Bahnhof?
6. Wo geht es zum Gedächtniskirche?
7. Was machst du nach der Arbeit?
8. Vor einer Woche hat sie geheiratet.
9. Sie hilft der Frau.
10. Das gehört den Mann.
11. Der Kommissar folgt den Leuten.
12. Er dankt dem Mitarbeiteren.
    here is a present

YES SOLET

[viscid cape]

Now

[placid heath]

Flappy, what genus is Gedächtniskirche?

[viscid cape]

Genau

[ocean robin]

wait.

geeeez

Die Kirche. Zur?

🤔

[placid heath]

^

[viscid cape]

Veri gud.

[ocean robin]

1. Er fährt jeden Tag mit dem Auto.
2. Gegenüber dem Rathaus ist der Stadtpark.
3. Sie kommt gerade aus der Stadt.
4. Das neue Hotel gibt es seit einem Jahr.
5. Wie komme ich zum Bahnhof?
6. Wo geht es zur Gedächtniskirche?
7. Was machst du nach der Arbeit?
8. Vor einer Woche hat sie geheiratet.
9. Sie hilft der Frau.
10. Das gehört den Mann.
11. Der Kommissar folgt den Leuten.
12. Er dankt dem Mitarbeiteren.
    

[placid heath]

Jetzt gehören.

[ocean robin]

Ah ah ahhhhh.

Don't tell me that it's a fokken dative verb

[pine ginkgo]

no questions

[ocean robin]

please

wow solet

[pine ginkgo]

you tell us.

[ocean robin]

you do the arrem way now?

[pine ginkgo]

no

i always did that

you goldfish

[placid heath]

Silverfish?

[viscid cape]

Brb guys please take over 😂

[ocean robin]

Okay, I must go for a bit.

[pine ginkgo]

faceflopsing

[hot cloak]

'Ich brauche deine Hilfe nicht' = I don't need your help?

[pine ginkgo]

ja

[hot cloak]

Yay

Ich brauche deine Hilfe nicht, denn ich bin nicht irgendein "Wohltätigkeitsfall"

Hmmm xD

Well, I don't need your help Because I'm not some charity case. ?

[sudden panther]

Huh you're still going.

[viscid cape]

Back

[placid heath]

wb

[viscid cape]

Thanks Korea

[sudden panther]

Hey Krypti.

Who do we torture? 🙁

[shy bobcat]

😦 idk

[ocean robin]

I am back.

[placid heath]

^
Who do we torture?

Ahurdahui

[ocean robin]

But I will do algebra now.

If you want to you can torture me on my algebra homework.

[placid heath]

x² = x^5+e^(x^3). What is x?

[ocean robin]

jesus

I am only 14, can I do this? 🤔

And what's e?

[placid heath]

around 2.71828

[cold vessel]

It's the best number

[ocean robin]

👀

[shy bobcat]

👀

[cold vessel]

It shows up everywhere

[cold vessel]

And has really cool properties

[ocean robin]

ETF

[placid heath]

^

E the f..

[ocean robin]

I can't do that yet

[viscid cape]

@sudden panther Well, Fläppers is here, so we might as well...

[ocean robin]

I want basic algebra, can't do algebra with 2 unknown numbers yet

[placid heath]

okay, lets do 3

x+y+z=0

[ocean robin]

tf

🤔

[sudden panther]

Cute.

[placid heath]

Ist ein LGS, die Matrix ist unterbesetzt und damit gibts zwei Freiheitsgrade.

[sudden panther]

Yes Flops. Find 3 numbers that satisfy that equation.

[cold vessel]

Was bedeutet "LGS"?

[placid heath]

Lineares Gleichungssystem

[sudden panther]

So Flop, done yet?

[ocean robin]

Nope.

I can't do that.

It could be 0 + 0 + 0 = 0.

[sudden panther]

Really? A 7 year old could solve that.

Yes. Yes it could. That's a valid solution.

[ocean robin]

Ah, I thought you were talking about Korea's.

[sudden panther]

Any other ones?

[pine ginkgo]

now a non-trivial solution

:D

[sudden panther]

I am talking about Korea's.

[ocean robin]

what's that

[placid heath]

Now enumerate the uncountably many solutions.

[ocean robin]

I don't know the English terms, Solet D:

[sudden panther]

A solution that's not just all zeroes.

[ocean robin]

Ah.

Then, 10 - 5 - 5 = 0

[sudden panther]

How many solutions are there?

[pine ginkgo]

and now a solution with a != b != c

[ocean robin]

or 10 - 6 - 4 = 0 for having different numbers

[pine ginkgo]

woa

so smarts

[ocean robin]

JESUS CHRIST

[placid heath]

And now ALL solutions. >=)

[pine ginkgo]

i think you should learn math instead of german

runs

[ocean robin]

THE HELL IS THAT SOLET

👀

[sudden panther]

So much for being smart.

[pine ginkgo]

i take it back, you are right

[ocean robin]

1! = 1! = 1

[sudden panther]

Solet wanted a solution that uses three different numbers. Which you already provided.

[ocean robin]

waw

such intelligence

[pine ginkgo]

uhm

flappsy

[placid heath]

why factorials

[pine ginkgo]

yeah

idk

[sudden panther]

Because she doesn't know what != means.

[ocean robin]

Ah.

[sudden panther]

She parsed it as a! = b! = c

[ocean robin]

You meant =/= ?

[placid heath]

Flapsy needs to program

[ocean robin]

wtf

[placid heath]

In german.

[pine ginkgo]

please

never write =/= again

or you are banned

[placid heath]

Wenn (wahr) {...}

[ocean robin]

It would be a disaster

[sudden panther]

She will. I'm already excited.

[ocean robin]

LOL

[pine ginkgo]

yes

her first task will be

to prove P = NP

[ocean robin]

🤔

[sudden panther]

Shouldn't be that hard.

[placid heath]

ez

[ocean robin]

excuse me but what

[sudden panther]

N = 1

[placid heath]

P = 0 or N =1

[ocean robin]

LOL OKAY

[pine ginkgo]

see

it's easy

[placid heath]

Now prove PSPACE = L3

[sudden panther]

But you'll have to be a tiny bit more formal in the paper that you'll write about it.

[placid heath]

Oh like:

P = 0 or N = 1. QED, ihr penner

[pine ginkgo]

make an algorithm that solves the 5-color-graph-problem in P

[sudden panther]

So Flops when are you gonna be C++ing?

[ocean robin]

Next weekend maybe if I can?

[placid heath]

solet, for all graphs?

[ocean robin]

Just to see if I like it or not.

[sudden panther]

Ahahahahaha. Can't. Memeing.Wait.

[placid heath]

For perfect graphs that's totally possible

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

all complete graphs

but it's for flaps

[placid heath]

with a perfect elimination scheme (NO, thats NO CRIME.)

[pine ginkgo]

:D

i forgot what perfect graphs were

🤔

[placid heath]

Graphen ohne Löcher und Antilöcher.

[pine ginkgo]

antilöcher 😦

[cold vessel]

C+ 🤔

[placid heath]

Komplementäre Graphen von Löchern.

Stell dir ein Fünfeck vor

Das ist ein Loch.

Jetzt ein Pentagramm. Das ist das zugehörige Antiloch.

[sudden panther]

There.

[pine ginkgo]

ich glaub wir hatten das anders als loch genannt

🤔

[sudden panther]

Du bimst 1 antiloch

[placid heath]

Sehnenloser Kreis?

[pine ginkgo]

ah

[placid heath]

Das Theorem wurde aber erst 2004 bewiesen, kann also sein dass du mittvierziger AStA-Teufel das gar nicht kennst :P

[pine ginkgo]

sehnenlose kreise sind kreise ohne zipfel?

[placid heath]

Sehnenlose Kreise sind Kreise ohne Sehnen.

[pine ginkgo]

neumodischer kram

[placid heath]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sudden panther]

So Flops. German. Go.

[ocean robin]

Wew I am drawing. D:

[quasi merlin]

Deutsch.

I did it, Arrem.

[ocean robin]

LOL

[placid heath]

Draw in german.

[shy bobcat]

Also Flops. Deutsch. Geh.

[placid heath]

Hat nachher jemand Lust auf eine Runde scribbl auf Deutsch?

[ocean robin]

🤔

[quasi merlin]

Ja, kann aber erst nach 22-23 Uhr.

[viscid cape]

Hallo

Verbann Floppo

[shy bobcat]

😦

why would anyone want to actually ban flöp

[viscid cape]

Does she have a task?

[ocean robin]

i want to draw but idk what

So let's do some German

[quasi merlin]

Draw a German sentence.

[ocean robin]

Lol what.

[viscid cape]

Draw the Brandenburger Tor

[nocturne spruce]

@ocean robin write a german sentence like this

[viscid cape]

Floppy ready for the next exercise?

[nocturne spruce]

2 tasks at once

[viscid cape]

@west harness Why did you poof mate

[ocean robin]

I SHOULD DO THAT WITH A FOXIE

[viscid cape]

True

[nocturne spruce]

draw the whole thing

[ocean robin]

Magnificent!

[viscid cape]

That looks neat

[cold vessel]

How do you even read that?

[viscid cape]

Homework Floppo

[ocean robin]

Ayyyy.

[nocturne spruce]

It depends, usually it's top to bottom, but when written like this, it's really hard to read

Especially if it is that long

[cold vessel]

Didn't we do that one already?

[ocean robin]

Before I do foxy thingy.

[cold vessel]

Or is it just really similar

[nocturne spruce]

I can read the first horse's one just fine

The second is impossible :S

[ocean robin]

Okay so, I think that you will have to read left ear first and then right ear, or another thing could be easier?

[nocturne spruce]

The first horse reads, Nose -> Head -> Neck

[viscid cape]

@cold vessel I think we didn't do it, no

(might be misaken though)

[cold vessel]

No, I think you're right

[ocean robin]

Because the shape will be like that.

Do I do like I write as usual or I do one ear and then another one?

Should I do lines?

such questions

[cold vessel]

Are you going to to the drawing before the translation?

[nocturne spruce]

It says "الخيل معقود بنواصيها الخير الى يوم القيامة" , which means that Good is connected to horses until the end of life

[ocean robin]

Well it's not entirely a drawing, hebruras 😛

[nocturne spruce]

The horses referenced here are the ones used in Jihad back in 600AD

[ocean robin]

AH

[nocturne spruce]

If you want to write it in the same style but in German

[ocean robin]

yus

[nocturne spruce]

Then it should go from the top of the tail to the bottom

[viscid cape]

Are you persuading Flappo to go jihad

Wow

[ocean robin]

wait what

[viscid cape]

Jk

[ocean robin]

👀

[nocturne spruce]

then rise to the top of the left ear then to the top of the right ear

then to the bottom right

[ocean robin]

The top of the tail as the start?

[nocturne spruce]

Yeah, it's the left most thing

Arabic starts from the right most

So you kinda have to mirror it

[ancient spade]

Arabic ❤ 😍

[ocean robin]

I should sepertate thr body in 2 parts then?

I agree, Arabic looks really beautiful but really hard.

[ancient spade]

Someday I'll learn it lol

[nocturne spruce]

you could draw is as separate parts, where every sentence is like a ball or something

that way you can draw the body as 7 parts (because 7 sentences) and you can start from anywhere you want

[ocean robin]

7 sentences wew.

[nocturne spruce]

Isn't that how many sentences the exercise has?

[stark drift]

I saw the word "Arabic" so I came

👀

[cold vessel]

😏

[nocturne spruce]

Well, I talk a lot about Arabic