general-2

[clear pebble]

Ich kann meinen Hund nicht finden.

[ocean robin]

@hot cloak Is one of IRL friends. The leader is a Brony.

[pine ginkgo]

i love my little mikuh

[ocean robin]

Help.

[opal sequoia]

Well, nicht is still sort of the last word. But you do the nicht rule before the verb rule. So after nicht goes at the end, the verb goes at the end after it.

[ocean robin]

So sentnece is:

[opal sequoia]

Since verbs are the most important and you always make sure your verbs are in the right place before anything else.

[hot cloak]

Je ne pas dit ça

[ocean robin]

Ich kann meinen Hund nicht finden.

[opal sequoia]

Does that follow all the rules you know, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

Jep, I think.

[hot cloak]

Can nicht also go After kann? Just curious for myself now

[sudden panther]

Learn more rules.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, very good.

[shy bobcat]

arrem shut up, fläp has it right for now

[sudden panther]

I hate nice people.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, now is this one: Ich denke, das er wegrannte.

[pine ginkgo]

i hate nice people.

[ocean robin]

Wow.

[pine ginkgo]

good thing arrem is never nice

[opal sequoia]

What do you think of this sentence, Flappy?

[pine ginkgo]

fokken shit

[sudden panther]

fuck arrem

[ocean robin]

Well, I am thinking about dass now.

[opal sequoia]

Why is that, Flappy?

[hot cloak]

I think therefore I am? 🤔 wild guess with no knowledge

[ocean robin]

Since the dass is because of the verb which is denke.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, sounds reasonable.

[ocean robin]

Wew, dunno if I am understandable.

[pine ginkgo]

sometimes

varies with flopsiness

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

What else, Flappy?

What did you search to find that verb?

[ocean robin]

dict.cc ftw

Well, "run away"

[opal sequoia]

And btw since this isn't a vocab practice it's not any real problem if you get the words wrong.

I don't know the best way to say "to run away" though. Anyone else here who can tell us which is the best for this scenario?

[quasi merlin]

weglaufen / wegrennen

[shy bobcat]

tbh I would have guessed wegrennen as well

[pine ginkgo]

me too

[shy bobcat]

ok that's 2.5 votes for "wegrennen"

(i ain't native so I don't count for a full vote)

[opal sequoia]

Okay, so, hearing that, what do you think the sentence is now, Flappy?

[pine ginkgo]

i must admit

[ocean robin]

I think it's righto.

[pine ginkgo]

i don't know if base is evil

or i don't get what base is trying to say

[ocean robin]

Is actually trying to not put question marks over here and there

[shy bobcat]

yeah no idea what base is actually trying to teach

🤔

[ocean robin]

Maybe my sentence is right

[opal sequoia]

Well, I'm testing some of the things Flappy already definitely has done before. But mostly it's practice for her own recognition of her mistakes. It's not really anything new though.

Okay, write the sentence, Flappy.

How you think it should be now.

[pine ginkgo]

okay

so base has gone the arrem way of flops torture

[ocean robin]

Ich denke, dass er wegrannte.

[shy bobcat]

we

[ocean robin]

LOL

[shy bobcat]

fokkin 'orrible

[ocean robin]

❤

[opal sequoia]

Okay, does that follow all the rules you know, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

Yes!

[pine ginkgo]

holy fuck

[opal sequoia]

How would you write it with perfect instead of simple past?

[pine ginkgo]

flaps is using an exclamation mark

[ocean robin]

lol what solet

LOL

[opal sequoia]

😄

[ocean robin]

Uuuuuuh Base okay.

[clear pebble]

Ich kann nicht verstehen... 😦

[ocean robin]

Ich denke, dass er weggerannt ist.

Give also a sentence for @clear pebble.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, sure. What do you know so far, Newbie?

[clear pebble]

Basic greetings. 😦

[opal sequoia]

Hmm. Well, how about if you try giving us a basic introduction of yourself as much as you can in German.

[pine ginkgo]

i don't a sentence will help

for translation

[ocean robin]

good English solet out there, do you have a word missing in your sentence?

[pine ginkgo]

yes

[opal sequoia]

Ich werde ein Foto von ihm vorführen, dass du weißt, wie he aussieht.

Which is Flappy's translation of I'll show you a photo of him so that you know what he looks like.

[ocean robin]

The hardest part.

_>

[pine ginkgo]

i just laugh about the

vorführen again

ahahahahtehaeh

[opal sequoia]

Now, this is a long one, so let's see what you can do with this.

Okay, vorführen is pretty interesting. 😄

[ocean robin]

[clear pebble]

Hallo! Ich heiße Newbie. Und Sie? Wie heißen Sie?

[ocean robin]

What does it really mean?

[clear pebble]

This is about the extent of what I can do... ><

[pine ginkgo]

fuck

no

[quasi merlin]

*Und Sie? Wie heißen Sie?

[pine ginkgo]

i should read everything lel.

[ocean robin]

Yah but that's formal. 🤔

[clear pebble]

Danke!

[pine ginkgo]

i stopped at the mistake

and didn't read the rest :(

[clear pebble]

my bad

I'm still new at this...

[pine ginkgo]

okay

flaps

remember

[opal sequoia]

I think vorführen is something like "to show off", Flappy. Like to present it to have it judged or something.

[pine ginkgo]

the objects thingy

we talked about last week

[ocean robin]

AH.

[opal sequoia]

Put vorführen in the dict.cc Flappy.

[ocean robin]

LOL WHAT.

[opal sequoia]

And see what it says.

[pine ginkgo]

do the objects thingy again

[opal sequoia]

Don't worry at all, Newbie! You're doing awesome for someone who just started.

[ocean robin]

"to show"

"to present"

[opal sequoia]

Flappy has been doing this for a while, that's why we are harder on her. 😄

[viscid cape]

@flapper

[ocean robin]

yes

[viscid cape]

I have homework for you

[ocean robin]

AH

[clear pebble]

in the informal, is d capitalized?

[pine ginkgo]

not now krypti

:O

sometimes, newbie

[viscid cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAQMYQfDdyg

Translate that tomorrow

[clear pebble]

so, Wie heißt du, or Wie heißt Du?

[ocean robin]

1st.

[placid heath]

Denke nicht gedacht zu haben denn das Denken der Gedanken ist gedankenloses Denken

[clear pebble]

okay

[pine ginkgo]

you will find the latter

in older novels and stuff tho

[opal sequoia]

Just stick with the lowecase yourself, Newbie. Just don't get confused if you see the uppercase around.

[clear pebble]

icic.

[pine ginkgo]

sometimes even in more modern stuff

but generally, you should just use lowercase

flappsy

identify the objects

[ocean robin]

oh gid not once again

_>

[pine ginkgo]

in the english sentence first.

[shy bobcat]

Websites like to use large Du it seems, I guess maybe as like a middle between du and Sie?

[pine ginkgo]

well

yeah

if you want to use Sie

but you are like fuck formal

but you still want to address someone

[ocean robin]

Can you help me? I can't find my dog. I think he ran away. I'll show you a photo of him so that you know what he looks like.

Okay, soooo.

[pine ginkgo]

only in the last sentence

concentrate only on show

what are the objcts for the verb

[ocean robin]

There's the I and you?

[pine ginkgo]

wat

[ocean robin]

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

oh no.

krypti

come back

[ocean robin]

hell yeah, I blew up Solet's mind

[pine ginkgo]

@viscid cape

[ocean robin]

once again

[pine ginkgo]

i don't want to do the objects explanation again, can you

[quasi merlin]

The objects, Fläppers.

[ocean robin]

🤔

The photo and the uuuuuh.

Hell yeah, you?

[shy bobcat]

Can you help me? I can't find my dog. I think he ran away. I'll show you a photo of him so that you know what he looks like.

"Kann du Hilfe mir. Ich kann nicht Fund mein Hund. Ich denke er rannte einweg. Ich will schauen du ein Photo von ihn so das du kennen was er schauen wie" ✅

[ocean robin]

The photo and you?

[quasi merlin]

Correct.

The photo and you

[ocean robin]

Oki dokie.

[pine ginkgo]

okay flaps

now

how would the verb look like

if you took any random objects

for this verb

[viscid cape]

@pine ginkgo I'm back

[ocean robin]

For vorführen?

[pine ginkgo]

you have show you a photo

no

for show

[ocean robin]

wat is the word then

[pine ginkgo]

show

tell me the full verb

for the construction with objects

[ocean robin]

okay but- ah okay.

[pine ginkgo]

oh

arrem take over

[sudden panther]

I don't think she has any idea what you want.

[ocean robin]

But okay, it's "to show something to someone" but I was talking about the German term ayyy.

[sudden panther]

Arrem is going to bed though. :(

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

Sleep well, Arrem!

[hot cloak]

wo kann ich fragen stellen

[quasi merlin]

✅ 🌃 , Arrem

[ocean robin]

Good night!

[sudden panther]

Oh wow she actually did the right thing. Amazing.

[opal sequoia]

Flappy, how do you say "sleep well" in German?

[viscid cape]

Good night Arrem

[pine ginkgo]

nice

okay

[sudden panther]

Schlafe wohl

Duh

[pine ginkgo]

now put that into the dictionary, flaps

[ocean robin]

Schlaf gut hehe.

LOL WHAT.

[pine ginkgo]

you can use the short form

show sth to sb

[ocean robin]

sb. sth.

[pine ginkgo]

eh

wait

[ocean robin]

okay

[opal sequoia]

lol Luna.

[pine ginkgo]

wait

yes base

[sudden panther]

Good night you lovely memes. ❤

[ocean robin]

wait what

[hot cloak]

gute nacht @sudden panther

[ocean robin]

He swapped the 2

[quasi merlin]

Confusion spreads

[sudden panther]

San Bolet.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, Flappy. You can say "to show sth. to sb." or "to show sb. sth" so choose either.

[pine ginkgo]

wait

actually

flaps

yeah

you took a new verb

😠

and not the verb from the sentence

D:

[ocean robin]

why this angry face owo

[pine ginkgo]

you are confusing me 😠

[ocean robin]

FOUND IT FINALLY.

[quasi merlin]

YOU DID?

[pine ginkgo]

show us

[ocean robin]

Jdm. etw. zeigen. As dict.cc says.

[quasi merlin]

Führe es uns vor.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

sie hat es vorgeführt!

okay flaps

you do that

from now on

for every verb

you translate

every verb

[ocean robin]

yes

[pine ginkgo]

and if you don't

yer fucking banned

[ocean robin]

OH GOD

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, but also, it's worth remembering zeigen because it's a really common verb.

So just make a mental note of that one.

[ocean robin]

Okay then.

I just had the wrong verb, noice.

[pine ginkgo]

just

[opal sequoia]

Okay, try making the sentence for us again.

[pine ginkgo]

she thinks that's her only mistake

how cute

[ocean robin]

god

Ich werde ein Foto von ihm zeigen, dass du weißt, wie er aussieht.

[clear pebble]

glgl

[ocean robin]

LOL

"he"

JUST SAW THAT

[quasi merlin]

You only see that NOW?

sökdiudghnawueotmjw35tü

[pine ginkgo]

mikah

[ocean robin]

LIKE WHAT

[pine ginkgo]

it's flappsy

don't forget the ways of flopsy

[ocean robin]

you can't help it

[pine ginkgo]

1. flops
2. a word
3. flops again

[ocean robin]

ans I can't either

[pine ginkgo]

4. never find the mistake

[quasi merlin]

Fläppers, I mean

About the "he"

You were told earlier ...

[ocean robin]

that was so ugh

wait what

Oh, that was the English word.

[opal sequoia]

Ich werde ein Foto von ihm zeigen,

What do you think of this, Flappy?

[pine ginkgo]

base is on fire today

[ocean robin]

I think it's correct. I think.

[pine ginkgo]

okay

flaps

[opal sequoia]

Read it carefully. What does it say if you translate it to English?

[pine ginkgo]

translate that sentence into english

GOOD JOB BASE

[ocean robin]

"lol no it's not flaps"

[clear pebble]

don't worry Flappers, I'm suffering with you

[ocean robin]

I'll show a photo of him?

[pine ginkgo]

yes

now look at the original sentence

you must work on your goldfish memory

[ocean robin]

And wot was the original sentence.

lel

[pine ginkgo]

also it helps if you stop getting distracted

might be both

🤔

[ocean robin]

DAMMIT THAT "YOU"

screams

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, we definitely would be finished by now if you quickly typed answers. 😄

[ocean robin]

Actually I am faster than usual.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, you're doing a good job but you're still getting a bit distracted.

The first translation you did at a good speed.

But this one, you should have written the new sentence already. 😄

[ocean robin]

Yes.

[viscid cape]

Fläppers

Why are you letting this "australian" bully you around

[opal sequoia]

Because she wants to be as good as you, Kryptik.

[viscid cape]

Oh... well, that's a good reason

Go on

[ocean robin]

Ich werde dich ein Foto von ihm zeigen, dass du weißt, wie er aussieht.

[pine ginkgo]

🤔

krypti

would you bully her for this?

[ocean robin]

lol idk solet

WAIT WHAT

[viscid cape]

For her translation?

[pine ginkgo]

yes

especially the thing

she added last

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

Just the first clause, Kryipt.

[ocean robin]

fokken dich which is maybe nit at the righto place or/and case

[viscid cape]

Yes, she should know the role of cases by now. She deserves punishment.

[ocean robin]

[quasi merlin]

What case is "dich", Fläppers?

[ocean robin]

Please help me.

Akk?

[quasi merlin]

Yes.

Is there maybe something else in the first clause that is acc.?

[ocean robin]

But why would it be Dat or IDK what?

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Because what are you doing with the photo?

In English.

[ocean robin]

There's "ein Foto" which is Akk.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah.

[ocean robin]

Still doesn't understand why i- Ah.

Dir is the indirect object again?

[opal sequoia]

Of course.

[ocean robin]

Because the point is to show the photo?

Ah ah ahhhh.

[opal sequoia]

You are showing the photo to someone.

The photo is what you are showing.

So it's accusative.

Try it with this sentence: "I give the book to you".

[ocean robin]

"Ich gebe dir das Buch"?

🤔

[viscid cape]

When you see a verb with two additional pieces of information and you've written both in accusative, start having second thoughts about it. It is possible, but it's relatively rare.

[opal sequoia]

Right. Now try "I show you the book."

Or "I show the book to you". Same thing.

[placid heath]

Flappy, 2:06

[shy bobcat]

@viscid cape lass mich dich etwas lehren. 3 accs

[placid heath]

Du bist 12

[pine ginkgo]

haha

[ocean robin]

Ich ziege dir das Buch.

WHAT KOREA 'XCUSE ME

[pine ginkgo]

I goat you the book

[placid heath]

*Quoi, Coree du nord? Excusez moi.

[opal sequoia]

Say the verb out loud, Flappy "Zeigen".

[ocean robin]

goat

[viscid cape]

@shy bobcat mich is object of lassen, whereas dich and etwas of lehren.

So technically no

[opal sequoia]

And then say this out loud "Ziege".

[ocean robin]

hell yeah, look like IDK another floppsing which occurred.

[shy bobcat]

You did not specify though

[viscid cape]

Shush

[opal sequoia]

It's fine, Flappy, but you will have to learn to differentiate ie and ei. The best way is pronunciation.

[ocean robin]

cries because she sees she swapped the e and the i

[opal sequoia]

And it's not important right now, but keep that in mind and we will practice that another time.

[shy bobcat]

Also I speak better German than you so I think I would know that 😉

[pine ginkgo]

woa

teeis getting confident

[shy bobcat]

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin your older brother @placid heath is telling to to sleep after you finish Base's lesson

[ocean robin]

i don't care

:v

[placid heath]

b&

[ocean robin]

yay

actually please don't

[viscid cape]

@shy bobcat Shush you Arizona... hayball.

[opal sequoia]

So now you have Ich zeige dir das Buch so what do you want to do with Ich werde dich ein Foto von ihm zeigen?

[placid heath]

CEFR level B-Anned

[shy bobcat]

My main grammatical failing is that apparently a bunch of words are der that I thought were das

[opal sequoia]

RIP Arizona.

Good luck getting out of that habit anytime soon.

[ocean robin]

Ich wurde dir ein Foto von ihm zeigen.

[viscid cape]

My main grammatical failing is which prepositions to use with which verbs

Amongst others

[quasi merlin]

Fläppers, stop the typos

[opal sequoia]

Hmmm.

[ocean robin]

oh my god

[viscid cape]

It's her french keyboard

[opal sequoia]

I think this sentence is maybe too complicated for you still.

[ocean robin]

Excuse me, I use Qwertz here.

And I am not used to it yet.

[pine ginkgo]

then type slower

[opal sequoia]

How does that make you swap e and u?

[ocean robin]

Ah ah ahhhh.

Well no idea.

[viscid cape]

Base we're trying to have her follow a book step-by-step approach, so that she won't have to guess and can be safely punished for making mistakes

[opal sequoia]

Yes, I know.

[ocean robin]

"Can be safely punished"

[opal sequoia]

But she said she is up to cases and this problem is a problem of cases.

[viscid cape]

Yeah I'm not criticising your approach, just informing you about it

😄

[opal sequoia]

Oh yeah.

[ocean robin]

Actually I think when I finish this sentence I go to sleep. I can't anymore I am too tired; even if I wanted ro do another one :<

[opal sequoia]

That's okay, Flappy.

[viscid cape]

Then finish it properly. Or no sleep. Ever.

[opal sequoia]

Next time we can do the usual shorter ones so we do more quickly.

[ocean robin]

Okay.

[viscid cape]

So

[ocean robin]

So what 👀

[viscid cape]

Did you finish it

[ocean robin]

Ich werde dir ein Foto von ihm zeigen.

[viscid cape]

Good.

@opal sequoia I asked Kellogs 3x and she didn't reply 🤦

[opal sequoia]

The last bit is ..., dass du weißt, wie er aussieht. which in English was so that you know what he looks like.

[ocean robin]

Yeah.

What, Kellogs? 🤔

[viscid cape]

No distraction

😠

-smacks her hand with a ruler-

[opal sequoia]

This one is still kind of difficult so don't worry about if you don't know it well.

[ocean robin]

Ah, okay. 🤔

[viscid cape]

You've made the same mistake before though

And corrected it

[ocean robin]

Das and dass?

[viscid cape]

No, a little more complicated

[ocean robin]

Ah.

[viscid cape]

But regarding the same word

[ocean robin]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

How do you translate "so that"?

[ocean robin]

OH YEAH.

Sowas?

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Or another way to say it is "in order that".

[ocean robin]

lel no how to floppsel

uuuh, wait

[opal sequoia]

Because you're saying that you're doing the first thing to cause the second thing. So you need a conjunction that tells you that.

[viscid cape]

Think of the german word that sounds exactly like "so that"

Not exactly, but

Ya know.

[ocean robin]

sodas lel

[lost dagger]

what flavor?

[ocean robin]

👀

[viscid cape]

Now fix it

[ocean robin]

LOL PLEASE

It can't be that Krypti. Please.

[viscid cape]

It's not that yet

Fix it

[ocean robin]

🤔

Fix what?

[opal sequoia]

Flappy: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/240524318512119810/363272434142543882/conjunctions.png?width=475&height=474

[ocean robin]

Yay I feel a little bit dumb becauae I knew these words already!

[opal sequoia]

No guessing. Always look at your resources if you don't know.

[ocean robin]

;_;

[opal sequoia]

Don't feel dumb about not remembering. Feel dumb about guessing instead of trying to learn it. 😄

[ocean robin]

Okay, so:

[...], so dass du weißt, wie er aussieht.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, does that follow all the rules you know?

[ocean robin]

I think yep.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, that's great.

[viscid cape]

Very good Flappo, you may rest tonight.

[opal sequoia]

The last sentence was pretty hard, and you needed some advice on it, but the others ones you mostly corrected on your own, even if it doesn't feel like that.

Next time hopefully you can do a few short sentences instead of any tricky ones, because... what I think you should do is practice doing this process of checking your own answers thoroughly before posting. If you dont know a word or can't figure out what fits the situation, just ask like I did with the "run away" verb. If you don't remember something like a conjunction, look up the chart.

But just try to look at the sentence and think "does this fit all the rules I know?"

But yeah, sleep well.

[viscid cape]

Base you'd make a good teacher

Apart from your accent and all

Kek

😏

[ocean robin]

Hey, I like his accent. :v

[viscid cape]

Pshh

I'll give you the hardest sentence tomorrow

😠

[ocean robin]

👀

[opal sequoia]

I mean, teaching friends is fun, but teaching as a job would be so exhausting.

[ocean robin]

^

[opal sequoia]

Imagine doing this all day every day for years in a row.

[viscid cape]

Maybe 😄

[ocean robin]

_>

[opal sequoia]

Well you can just ping me when you want to start the lesson, right, Kyrptik?

[viscid cape]

Monsieur Piérre Laplace? Oui, su dautré c'est nie in betté

[opal sequoia]

Sorrry I'm not being more decisive on a time though.

[ocean robin]

Now I see that I am awake since almost 20 hours now.

[opal sequoia]

You know sleep helps your brain remember things.

[ocean robin]

I am crazy.

And yeah, will do that now.

[viscid cape]

@opal sequoia No problem, in principle we start at around the time we've spoken about, if Kellogs can't join she'll join next week

[opal sequoia]

Sweet dreams about German grammar. 😄

Okay, KRutope

[viscid cape]

Since she won't reply

[ocean robin]

Yeeeeah, hehe.

[viscid cape]

😠

Good night, foxy fox

[ocean robin]

You calm down

[viscid cape]

I'll make a bloody coat of you 😠

[ocean robin]

Good night y'all.

[opal sequoia]

😄

[ocean robin]

AGGGGHH

[opal sequoia]

Wow.

[viscid cape]

[mortal hound]

Guten abend allerseit

[uncut ember]

hallo

[clear pebble]

Hallo

Wie gehts?

[cold vessel]

Lol, translating at half past 2 in the morning

[ocean robin]

Okay I am ready.

[opal sequoia]

So you want adjectives?

[ocean robin]

Yep!

[opal sequoia]

The blue shoes are really expensive.

[ocean robin]

Die blaue Schuhe sind wirklich teuer.

[opal sequoia]

Nope.

[ocean robin]

:v

Lol where.

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Die blaue Schuhe

[ocean robin]

Ah ah ahh.

mmmh

Blauen? 🤔

[opal sequoia]

Yep. But no guessing. 😄

[cold vessel]

Explain why, please

[ocean robin]

lel

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin

[opal sequoia]

Okay, sure.

[cold vessel]

Not you, base 😛

[ocean robin]

weak declension

[opal sequoia]

I know.

[ocean robin]

die (pl) nominative -> -en

[viral thunder]

❌ Check failed. You probably don't have permission to do this.

[cold vessel]

😂

[ocean robin]

LOL PLEASE

[opal sequoia]

Nice.

Trying to kill the bot.

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

Okay, try this: a stripy bumblebee.

[ocean robin]

What's a bumblebee? 👀

[opal sequoia]

It's like a type of bee that's fluffy-looking.

[lost dagger]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Bumblebee_October_2007-3a.jpg/1200px-Bumblebee_October_2007-3a.jpg

[sudden panther]

Y'all banned.

[lost dagger]

also this

http://www.sebeetles.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/bumbleb_transf.jpg

[opal sequoia]

Hi Arrem.

[ocean robin]

Awww so fluffy.

[opal sequoia]

Do you have some adjectives for Flappy today, Mr Arrem?

[ocean robin]

Hey Arrem.

[sudden panther]

Hi.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, I want you to do two things Flappy. First do "a stripy bumblebee" and then do "The stripy bumblebee is very fluffy."

[sudden panther]

A bit later. I just woke up. 😅

[opal sequoia]

Did you sleep well?

[sudden panther]

Sure did.

[opal sequoia]

That's good.

[ocean robin]

Eine gestreifte Hummel.
Die gestreifte Hummel ist sehr flauschig. denclensions ™

[opal sequoia]

Okay.

Now do: "I like stripy fluffy bumblebees."

Whoops, no capitalized nouns in English.

[sudden panther]

Why didn't you decline the flauschig?

[ocean robin]

Because there's sein.

And sein doesn't like denclensions.

[sudden panther]

Ehhh, not quiite.

[opal sequoia]

Declension.

[sudden panther]

Any other ideas? 🤔

[ocean robin]

Ich mag gestreifte flauschige Hummeln.

Uuuh, sein + adj = no denclensions for meh

[sudden panther]

How about haben + adj. Or werden + adj? 🤔

[ocean robin]

They are declined I think, sein is just a fokken exception 🤔

[sudden panther]

Nou.

[ocean robin]

Wat.

[sudden panther]

You only decline an adjective if it comes before a noun in the sentence. 😉

[ocean robin]

You mean that with modal verds no declination?

wait what?

[sudden panther]

How's that?

[ocean robin]

Actually when I think about it, it's okay but still 🤔

[opal sequoia]

What is an example of a haben or werden sentence with predicate adjective?

[sudden panther]

None. I just didn't like her rule and wanted to see her logic behind it. 😅

[opal sequoia]

That's okay, I was just not sure because I couldn't think of what that looks like.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

But yeah, Arrem is correct.

It's because it's like, you know, a standalone adjective. It's not attached to anything directly.

So you don't decline it because it's not attached to anything.

No noun anyway.

[cold vessel]

You can't use werden with adjectives? How do you say like "He becomes [adjective]"?

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, that would work, henbruas.

The types of verbs would be... uhh... what's the name? I always forget.

Linking verbs?

Is, was, becomes, grows, seems, etc.

[sudden panther]

Aha. Nice. No, you can use it like that. And you still wouldn't decline the adjective. Same for Er fühlt sich, and other things.

[lunar urchin]

Er wird ein Arrem, der wütend ist.

Dann wird Arrem wütend. Er wird dann wütend sein.

😮

[cold vessel]

I don't think Arrem is the wütend one usually 🤔

[lost dagger]

copulas

arugulas

[lunar urchin]

Ja, ich liebe schlechte Beispiele

[ocean robin]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

How about this Flappy: She gives the interesting book to her kind sister.

[ocean robin]

mmh

[lost dagger]

wtf does this mean

[ocean robin]

Can you that wait what

[thick charm]

Assuming that's Minecraft, Snek, he's pretty much asking if anyone knows how it feels like to find 'diamonds' over a lava lake.

[opal sequoia]

Do you know that diamonds(?) are found over a lava lake?

[thick charm]

But it lacks a comma and other basic grammar things

[lost dagger]

ohh

I see now

[ocean robin]

Sie gibt das interessant Buch zu ihrer netten Schwester. 🤔 pls denclensions

[red pewter]

Sie gibt das interessante Buch zu ihrer netten Schwester

awww. caps.

[cold vessel]

"to" 👀

[red pewter]

Hi flapsters i can't sleep

[ocean robin]

Yeah that "to" 👀

IKR

Awww Bell.

[thick charm]

Look, it's Bell!

How's my favourite insomniac

[opal sequoia]

Okay, try this first: she gives her sister the book.

[ocean robin]

Ah.

[red pewter]

Sleepy! 😄 ❤

[ocean robin]

Sie gibt ihrer Schwester das Buch.

Or the other way around.

[red pewter]

Sie gibt ihrer Schwester das Buch.

[opal sequoia]

And now with the adjectives?

[ocean robin]

Sie gibt ihrer netten Schwester das interessant Buch.

[red pewter]

Sie gibt ihrer netten Schwester das interessante Buch

[sudden panther]

Why didn't we decline the interessant?

[opal sequoia]

So why did you put that zu in there?

[ocean robin]

oh geez

[red pewter]

because I saw the word to 😄

[ocean robin]

REALLY THOUGHT I DECLINED IT

[thick charm]

that's already taken care of by the Dativ

[opal sequoia]

Yep, you don't need the "to" for this kind of thing in German.

[ocean robin]

@red pewter my logic ™

[sudden panther]

Ban logic.

[opal sequoia]

Ban bad logic. 😄

[ocean robin]

Wow.

[red pewter]

understood

[opal sequoia]

Okay guys, how do you say: Ban bad logic!?

[red pewter]

uh

I know one of those words

[ocean robin]

Bannen is the verb?

[opal sequoia]

Sure.

[ocean robin]

lol what

[thick charm]

might want to replace the question mark with an exclamation mark to make it logical

[opal sequoia]

😄

[ocean robin]

Banne schlechte Logik

looks weird lel

that "banne"

[opal sequoia]

What's the word for ban? Verbannen?

I don't actually know it.

[ocean robin]

lol what

[red pewter]

verbannen schlechte Logik!

I wanted to use sperren. would that work?

[thick charm]

I'd have gone with 'Verbieten', prohibit. Bannen is an anglicism as far as I know.

[red pewter]

because that's a word i know

[ocean robin]

Verbieten for dict.cc

[thick charm]

Also how do we form the Imperative again?

[sudden panther]

But everyone still goes with bannen.

[red pewter]

I don't remember D:

[opal sequoia]

Well, let's try an easier imperative.

With a real word.

Eat tasty food.

Try that.

[thick charm]

That may or may not be a nasty trap

[opal sequoia]

Yeah but it's a common word so it's good to know.

[red pewter]

Essen Sie lecker Essen?

[opal sequoia]

Lecker?

[thick charm]

She circumvented it

She actually just went right around it

I didn't even think of using the imperativ plural

[timid olive]

Leckres?

[cold vessel]

Strong verbs are mean

[red pewter]

i'm so sorry D:

[thick charm]

Don't be, that was creative

[lost dagger]

what's the diffo between verbieten and untersagen?

[opal sequoia]

Okay, yeah, Sie form is gebannt for now.

[thick charm]

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Imperative/Imperativ.html Also do check out this website

[opal sequoia]

Say it with du or ihr form, cbell. 😏

[red pewter]

bookmarked

Okay this is stupid af

but I don't know what a strong and weak verb is

i studied them in history of the english language but i really don't remember

[opal sequoia]

Don't worry. It's just regular and irregular (I assume).

[thick charm]

It is

[red pewter]

phew okay

[thick charm]

If the verb has any special forms, it's a strong one

But there are some mixed verbs

[cold vessel]

Huh?

Doesn't the irregularity specifically have to be a vowel change in the stem?

[red pewter]

okay then i don't know how to do the eating

[thick charm]

https://www.lsa.umich.edu/german/hmr/Grammatik/Verb_Summaries/Strong_Weak_Mixed.html

[red pewter]

bookmarked

[opal sequoia]

Just do this at least then cbell: "I eat tasty food".

[thick charm]

The imperative you were looking for right there was "Iss" by the way

[red pewter]

Ich esse lecker Essen

So no t?

[opal sequoia]

You have to decline adjectives when they come before a noun.

[thick charm]

You're looking for the Akkusativ declension of lecker here

[red pewter]

Ich esse leckere Essen?

[opal sequoia]

Have you learned about adjective declension yet?

[red pewter]

I use the chart

every time

[opal sequoia]

Oh, that's fine.

[red pewter]

http://germanforenglishspeakers.com/reference/complete-declension-tables/

that one

[opal sequoia]

Are you using it now?

[red pewter]

chuck gave it to me

yes

and it looks bad

[opal sequoia]

Okay, so what gender is Essen?

[red pewter]

NEUTER

[thick charm]

Correct

[red pewter]

leckeren? lecken?

[opal sequoia]

What are the articles?

[red pewter]

I'm uncomfortable

[thick charm]

Which of the three tables should we be looking at?

[red pewter]

i was doing no article

is it implied?

[opal sequoia]

No, you're correct.

[thick charm]

No article is right

So Accusativ Neuter

[red pewter]

i can't read today i'm so sorry

[thick charm]

-es

[opal sequoia]

It's okay. 😄

[red pewter]

es. Leckeres

[opal sequoia]

It's complicated when you're starting out.

[red pewter]

Ich esse leckeres Essen

?

[thick charm]

👌

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, correct. In the chart you're looking at it says "frisches Brot".

That's where you should be looking for that.

[red pewter]

I need to tattoo this chart on me

I'm so sorry that shouldn't have taken me so long

[opal sequoia]

Don't be sorry.

It really does take a long time for most people to get this stuff down.

[red pewter]

where did flap go D:

[opal sequoia]

Adandoned us. 😦

[lost dagger]

do you ever have dreams where your pillow is filled with bees and wasps and hornets and they come out of your pillow and sting your face until its covered in horrific bumps and welts?

[red pewter]

....no....

oh god

that's nightmare fuel

[lost dagger]

and then even after you wake up you're afraid to use the pillow

that's a recurring dream I had 😦

[opal sequoia]

Wow.

[red pewter]

I'm so sorry

[lost dagger]

you said something about flappy then that made me think of cute soft fluffy striped bumblebees

then that made me think of using one as a pillow

then the dream 😦

[red pewter]

omg

D:

Now I don't want to sleep....

[lost dagger]

sorry 😦

[red pewter]

it's fine ❤

So back to eat tasty food... Iss leckeres Essen?

[lost dagger]

🔔 !!

[red pewter]

yay ❤

[lost dagger]

ding ding ding

[cold vessel]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jWl5-kkqF3FQLDzrz8XLBJj7hvPFQK7MT5SYEDGK65E/edit

[opal sequoia]

henbruas. 😻

[cold vessel]

You don't want to plug your own stuff, base? 😛

[red pewter]

bookmarked ❤

[opal sequoia]

I feel bad about it. 😄

[red pewter]

you guys are so cool

The grammar help is so helpful

Vocab is really easy for me because I have a good memory, but grammar is harder!

[opal sequoia]

Wow. 😮

I suck at vocab.

[cold vessel]

I'm the opposite 😐

[lost dagger]

me too

[red pewter]

let's team up!

[opal sequoia]

Download your vocab into our brains.

[red pewter]

Lol not yet

give me a year

I'm learning at a rate of 750 words a month

[cold vessel]

😮

[red pewter]

that probably won't hold, but I hope to have 2500 words by the end of the year

[cold vessel]

If I learn 5 new words in a day I feel pretty good

That's 25

[red pewter]

yeah I use anki

hasn't failed me yet!

[lost dagger]

i'm gonna go to sleep or osmething like that, good luck with learning and stuff

and bees

[red pewter]

NO BEES

[opal sequoia]

Slepp well.

[red pewter]

puppies and rainbows!

and kitten

[lost dagger]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/25/65/f525658254415f0bdc66b25486b24852.jpg

[red pewter]

....acceptable!

a pupper dressed as a bee? good. A bee dressed as a pupper? bad

[cold vessel]

https://media.giphy.com/media/dcubXtnbck0RG/giphy.gif

[red pewter]

nein^^^

[ocean robin]

I am back.

[lost dagger]

welcome back

and good night

I know it's morning for you

well I'm guessing

[red pewter]

flaps ❤

[ocean robin]

Brother eats tacos for breakfast; understandable, have a nice day

[red pewter]

Wo hast du gegangen?

[ocean robin]

Anyway, what did I miss?

*bist hehehe

[red pewter]

Uh, me failing to read a chart 3 times

[opal sequoia]

You have to translate this one, Flappy: eat tasty food.

[red pewter]

okay, bist instead of hast. why?

[ocean robin]

What "eat" Du, ihr or Sie?

[opal sequoia]

Du or ihr.

[celest robin]

(*Wohin)

[opal sequoia]

You can choose.

[ocean robin]

Because gehen is a verb that indicates movement, Bell.

[red pewter]

wohin means "where to". I get that one

and movement means you have to use sein?

okay

[ocean robin]

Warning: I think bleiben has got sein too?

[red pewter]

Wohin bist du gegangen?

[sudden panther]

Yes. You normally use sein with verbs that indicate movement or a change of state.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, there are a few rules that go with "sein".

But don't worry about it too much until you come across them.

[ocean robin]

As I said, I eated a little bit and I should speak German there lel.

[red pewter]

okay ❤

[sudden panther]

I love eateding.

[ocean robin]

Iss/Esst leckeres Essen.

[opal sequoia]

[red pewter]

she got it so much faster than bell T_T

[ocean robin]

typo ❤

[red pewter]

so smart

[opal sequoia]

Okay.

Now.

[ocean robin]

Maybe I got the imperative for ihr wrong lel.

[opal sequoia]

He gives a fresh raw steak to his hungry dog.

[ocean robin]

Ahhhh.

[opal sequoia]

Nuh, the imperative is right. Anyway, this is adjective practice and not imperative verb practice. 😄

[red pewter]

flappers is ihr the same as vous :?

[ocean robin]

Er gibt ein frisches rohes Steak seinem hungrigen Hund.

[cold vessel]

Order, flappy

[ocean robin]

Ihr = vous yeah, and that's our formal "Sie".

Oh yeah.

[red pewter]

Er gibt ein frisches rohes Steak seinem hungrigen Hund

[ocean robin]

Er gibt seinem hungrigen Hund ein frisches rohes Steak.

I think.

[opal sequoia]

Hmmm.

Does it have to be in that order?

[ocean robin]

I think yeah, to show that he gives something to his doggo?

[sudden panther]

nozwitschthatsnotaquestionforyou

[ocean robin]

🤔

LOL

[lunar urchin]

ich kann es nicht genau beschreiben, aber es klingt in der Reihenfolge besser

[sudden panther]

Isn't it the dative that's showing us that he's giving something to his doggo? 🤔

[cold vessel]

Technically the cases make it unambiguous anyway, flappy

[lunar urchin]

Wer gibt wem was

[ocean robin]

Yes why Arrem, I put Dat here. 🤔

[red pewter]

so order doesn't matter?

[lunar urchin]

technically it doesn't

[ocean robin]

But dunno, henburas said that order was wrongo

[red pewter]

we can keep it as is

[sudden panther]

Yes, but you also said that it's the sentence structure that tells you that you're giving the steak to your dog. And it's not, it's the cases.

[lunar urchin]

stylistic i'd say it matters

because you usually would go and put wem before was

[sudden panther]

Word order is quite flexible there and you could even do something like
Seinem hungrigen Hund gibt er ein rohes Steak. 😉

[ocean robin]

🤔 🤔

[sudden panther]

But again, as zwitschers said, Flopper's version is what sounds the most natural.

[lunar urchin]

yet, also Arrem made the example: WEM -> WAS

[red pewter]

😢

[ocean robin]

Ahhh.

[lunar urchin]

anders herum wäre es: WAS -> an WEN`

note the different case

[red pewter]

what do you mean by that?

wem->was?

[lunar urchin]

wem gebe ich was?

1st object is the "WEM" so the dat. and then "WAS"

not the other way around

[red pewter]

Whom do I give what vs what do I give to whom?

I get it.

[lunar urchin]

then you would put it differently:
Er gibt ein rohes Steak an seinen Hund (ab)

and use Akk. for the object

[ocean robin]

yeah

[red pewter]

and now I'm lost

[ocean robin]

Because of Akk?

[lunar urchin]

you just did it yourself

[sudden panther]

That's just an alternative. It's nothing you should worry about as a beginner, if you don't get it straight away. 😉

[lunar urchin]

Whom do I give what vs what do I give to whom?
to whom

[red pewter]

because i thought the order would just flipflop

[ocean robin]

[red pewter]

oh.

okat

I changed my words too

[lunar urchin]

it can but flipping also changes the emphasis

and noone would put an emphasis on that

it sounds odd

mention the dog first, and then what he gets

or, if you want to mention the steak first, you'd use no Dativ but Akkusativ, as you also just did in English 😉

[red pewter]

😿

[lunar urchin]

it's crazy right?

[red pewter]

so, most natural is this? Er gibt ein rohes Steak an seinen Hund (ab)

[lunar urchin]

if you want to emphasize the steak, yes

[red pewter]

but what flaps wrote works too?

[lunar urchin]

what i tried to point at was, that you usually express that the dog gets the steak, so that's the way to do so

Er gibt dem Hund ein frisches rohes Steak.

1st object is now the dog

and geben on its own takes Dativ

abgeben as used in the other example takes an + Akk.

[red pewter]

okay

I think I get it

[opal sequoia]

Try to use it in a sentence?

[lunar urchin]

so meaning stays the same (give to) but the emphasis changes

[opal sequoia]

And are you still here Flappy?

[red pewter]

Use what part of it in a sentence?

[sudden panther]

banfloppooo

[opal sequoia]

Make a sentence with abgeben, cbell.

[ocean robin]

Yes I am heeeeere.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, Flappy, do you want another sentence?

[ocean robin]

Yep plox!

[opal sequoia]

A nice boy helps the old woman.

[ocean robin]

Ein netter Junge hilft der älter Frau.

[thick charm]

[opal sequoia]

Hmmm.

[red pewter]

Ich geben ein Getränk an meine Mutter ab

[ocean robin]

chok

[red pewter]

for using in a sentence

[opal sequoia]

Try again, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

nuuuuuh

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Ich geben, cbell?

[ocean robin]

I like how I don't know the problem in the sentence

[cold vessel]

Second adjective I think

[thick charm]

Starts with D

[opal sequoia]

Check every part, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

BUT I PUT DATIVE RIGHT HERE

[thick charm]

the problem, not the word

Did you?

[ocean robin]

YES I DID

[thick charm]

der Frau is correct

But is the adjective?

[ocean robin]

DENCLENSIONS

[opal sequoia]

Declensions.

[ocean robin]

AH

[red pewter]

Ein netter Jung hilft die alte Frau

[thick charm]

not quite

[red pewter]

ich gebe, base 😦

[thick charm]

Again, Dativ.

helfen needs Dativ to make sense

[ocean robin]

*älten or wat but it's -en

Got it.

[thick charm]

Some verbs do that thing where they only work with a certain case

[ocean robin]

Alten sounds weird as hell

[red pewter]

Ein netter Junge hilft der alten Frau

[thick charm]

I'll let it slide, good work

But it's Junge

[ocean robin]

Almost did that mistake

[thick charm]

It's alten or älteren here because of Dativ

[ocean robin]

Yeah.

[opal sequoia]

Now do The old woman thanks the nice boy.

[thick charm]

Remember your reflexive verbs, kids

[cold vessel]

There's a nice trap here 😄

[opal sequoia]

😏

[ocean robin]

Was going to post when Chok said "watch out reflexive verb"

🤔

I know the verb is danken sure but what

Reflexive...?

[thick charm]

Can either be reflexive or not depending on what verb you use

[red pewter]

i was gonna use danken too

[thick charm]

Can be danken or another thing

Just go with danken then

I'll tell you the other one later

[red pewter]

sich bedanken

[thick charm]

👌

[ocean robin]

AH

Bedankt?

o-okay sure

[thick charm]

It can be either, both are fine to use here

[opal sequoia]

Write it with both verbs. That is, write the sentence twice, one with each verb.

[red pewter]

does thanking need dative too?

[thick charm]

Cruel, Base

Yup

[ocean robin]

Die alte Frau dankt dem netten Junge.
Die alte Frau bedankt sich dem netten Junge. mai try

[red pewter]

Die alte Frau dankt dem netten Junge

[cold vessel]

Are you two familiar with weak nouns?

[red pewter]

no

[ocean robin]

maybe yes

[thick charm]

As a rule of thumb, if you need a 'someone' in the English equivalent, it needs Dativ in German bad choccx

[ocean robin]

maybe no

[red pewter]

good tip

[thick charm]

You both made the same mistake

Hen already called it out

[ocean robin]