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ocean robin
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BUT THE SENTENCE IS CORRECT NOW?

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REALLY?

sudden panther
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No, I'm just messing with you. ❤

fair iron
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^

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Sorry, Flappy.

ocean robin
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thankies ❤

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I am used to it now mmlol

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yeah dat "Mann"

sudden panther
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So. What do we tackle next? 🤔
You pick. Declensions, cases, weird word choices.

pine ginkgo
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typos

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hahaha

ocean robin
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LOL

pine ginkgo
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runs

ocean robin
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"Weird word choices"

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Interesting, the hell is that.

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Flops picking flopsy words?

pine ginkgo
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yes

sudden panther
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Again you choosing the 153454953495th result. Berichten = report.

ocean robin
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Let me see what was the first word.

cold vessel
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Because at least I have forgotten the original by now:
The rich lady, whose fat husband I saw yesterday, bought me the pretty flowers that I told you about.

ocean robin
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Erzählen, I knew the word already lel

sudden panther
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Then why didn't you use it? 🤔

ocean robin
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Because this.

pine ginkgo
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so

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read again

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what is the difference between two versions?

viscid cape
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I'm back

ocean robin
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One is for telling a story (erzählen) and the other for reporting (berichten).

pine ginkgo
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no

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what is the grammatical difference between those

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let's say that

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and why did you pick berichten

ocean robin
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I dunno, it was the first I saw thinking_cat erzählen is also a verb with a inseparable prefix, correct?

pine ginkgo
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no

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okay

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flaps

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how many objects

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do both verbs take

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in english

ocean robin
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huh wot

pine ginkgo
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how many objects

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do the verbs take

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the page tells you

ocean robin
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Oh, wait.

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Actually I don't understand the question Solet thinking_cat

pine ginkgo
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okay

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the screenshot you made

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has two different versions

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right

ocean robin
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Yep.

pine ginkgo
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what is the difference between those?

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because if there is no difference

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why are there two versions

ocean robin
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I searched at first "tell about"

pine ginkgo
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yes

sudden panther
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His main question is how many objects does each word take.

ocean robin
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And then "tell"

pine ginkgo
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and you got two resutls

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what is the different

ocean robin
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Yeah.

pine ginkgo
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between both

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tell me

ocean robin
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Wasn't the one for reporting as a patrol or idk, for reporting. The second is just to tell basic stuff as "ey look I saw a cat today" thinking_cat

pine ginkgo
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no

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flapps

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don't overthink it

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really

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i just want you to point out

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when you look at both versions

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what is different between those

sudden panther
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Flops. How many objects are ther in give someone something?

ocean robin
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You mean which cases they take? 👀

pine ginkgo
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...

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ah, you take it arrem

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i need a break

sudden panther
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Ahahahaha, okay.

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No, I mean what I said. How many objects are there in this sentence: Ich habe Flops ein Buch gegeben

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Possible answers
A) 1
B) 2
C) 3
D) I don't know what objects are
E) I don't know how to identify the objects in a sentence
F) Both D and E
Pick one. 😛

nocturne spruce
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Flappy

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What is an object?

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She's gone

past creek
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anyone here playing overwatch with the voiceover in german?

ocean robin
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I would say D eh. I even don't remember what it is. mmlol

nocturne spruce
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Ok

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The Object is the noun that is affected by the verb

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While the Subject is the doer of the verb

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So in the case of something like "I gave the kid an apple"

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You have two objects

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since your action affects both the kid (He gets an apple) and the apple (It has been given from you to the kid)

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Is that clear Flopsel?

ocean robin
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Ahhh, okay.

nocturne spruce
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So

ocean robin
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2 objects.

pine ginkgo
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it's kinda amazing how far we have come, without floppsel knowing it

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🤔

nocturne spruce
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How many objects does "berichten" take?

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It's kind of easy to forget so there is that

ocean robin
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Solet, idk really, I didn't know the term thinking_cat

nocturne spruce
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Flappy

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Answer the question

ocean robin
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I'd say 2.

nocturne spruce
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I'd say you're wrong

ocean robin
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Because you tell someone about it and then you- wait wot.

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Wait. Maybe 1.

nocturne spruce
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Yep

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Berichten, tells about someone/something

ocean robin
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Because it's only the receiver of the information who ich "dir" in this case. Or dich. I don't remember.

nocturne spruce
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Without addressing anyone in specific

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How about "erzaehlen"

sudden panther
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to tell about something one object.

nocturne spruce
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That's cruel arrem

sudden panther
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Now do the other one.

nocturne spruce
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Let's stay at baby steps

sudden panther
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How is it cruel, it's what we're going for. 🤔

nocturne spruce
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then remind her of her mistake afterwards

ocean robin
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Erzählen is for to tell, correct?

nocturne spruce
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I don't know really, it just feels like highlighting the mistake this clearly is a bit mean

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You are correct flappy

ocean robin
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Yeah you say that it's highlighted but I don't see it. Lucky you.

nocturne spruce
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Flappu

sudden panther
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I wasn't highlighting any mistakes. I just posted the picture for reference and repeated what you already said. 🤔

nocturne spruce
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Answer the question

ocean robin
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I want to say one as well.

nocturne spruce
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Fair enough Arrem, don't think about it too much, I'm just being dumb here 😅

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I want to say that you're wrong

sudden panther
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Which one, Flops?

ocean robin
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The receiver as well.

sudden panther
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What's the object in etwas berichten?

ocean robin
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The dir?

nocturne spruce
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What dir?

sudden panther
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Where's the dir in etwas berichten?

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Two words. One is the object, one is the predicate/verb.

pine ginkgo
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etwas bedirchten

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🤔

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there, fixed

nocturne spruce
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etdir dirdirchten

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We can keep going here

pine ginkgo
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oh, that's good pengu

ocean robin
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The object is etwas. mmlol Lol IDK.

sudden panther
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Yes.

nocturne spruce
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Correct

sudden panther
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But this isn't going anywhere and that question shouldn't take so much thinking, so I'd suggest taking a moment to recap.

nocturne spruce
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Fair enough

viscid cape
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I'm pretty confused as to what's going on

ocean robin
nocturne spruce
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We're explaining objects to flappy

pine ginkgo
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we found out, floppsel didn't know what objects are

viscid cape
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Ohhh I see

ocean robin
viscid cape
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@pine ginkgo Don't be cruel lol

pine ginkgo
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which could be a determining point of why flopssel always chose the worst possibilites from the dictionary

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what

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i am letting arrem and ninja handle this

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so i don't have to be cruel

viscid cape
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😂

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Just teasing, you may continue your ehm... heterodox educational methods

pine ginkgo
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heterothodox :D

viscid cape
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SHHH

sudden panther
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To quote: "The object is the noun that is affected by the verb" It might have been the explanation that confused you, but objects aren't limited to nouns. Things that carry an action out are called subjects and are found in nominative. Things that the action is carried out on are the objects and are in accusative or dative. "Things" is of course imprecise, but it can be anything, most commonly nouns and pronouns. Of course, a verb can never be a subject or an object, since the verb is the action we're carrying out.
Thus, in etwas bekommen, the bekommen is the predicate/verb and the etwas is the object, because the etwas is being targeted by the verb.
In jemandem etwas geben, both jemandem and etwas are the objects. The jemand is getting something and the etwas is being given to him.
The same concept carries over to full sentences as well.
Ich gebe Floppsel ein Buch. => ich = subject, Floppsel = object (DAT), Buch = object (ACC)

ocean robin
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wall of text ™

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And yeah, I understood naw.

sudden panther
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Shit.

nocturne spruce
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You know, you could have said that you didn't understand when I asked you

pine ginkgo
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lol

sudden panther
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Thank you. ❤

cold vessel
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Usually you'd call Floppsel the indirect object and ein Buch the direct object

viscid cape
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😂

ocean robin
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Ninja, that's main problem. I hate saying that I don't understand so I search blindly.

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And I must eat. waevoli

cold vessel
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You need to stop having a life outside of translating, flappy

sudden panther
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It's fairly obvious to us when you don't understand things. And it's more embarassing to guess around for an hour than to simply ask. 😛

viscid cape
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^ true

nocturne spruce
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Flappy, it won't do you any good if you shy away from such things, part of the reason why I mess up so often as a "C" Level, is because I never asked about simple things

sudden panther
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When you're back, you can identify the objects in jemandem von etwas erzählen.

ocean robin
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Jemandem and etwas. 2.

viscid cape
sudden panther
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Good. So the thing that Solet was aiming for is that you'll always need the same amount of subjects in your English sentence and your German sentence. Which is a pretty big hint that berichten doesn't work. It takes 1 object and you need 2.

ocean robin
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Ah, so erzählen?

sudden panther
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Keeping that in mind, let's try rewriting the sentence using jemandem von etwas erzählen, yes.

ocean robin
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Die reiche Dame, deren dicke Mann ich gestern sah, hat mich die schönen Blumen gekauft, die ich dir erzählte.

sudden panther
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What happened to the von? 🤔

ocean robin
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Oh yeah.

pine ginkgo
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left at eating table

ocean robin
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Wait where do I put it then. thinking_cat

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Die von ich dir?

fair iron
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In the correct spot, if you please.

nocturne spruce
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why von not "über"

ocean robin
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because life reasons

pine ginkgo
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mh, not sure there is any difference, pengu

nocturne spruce
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Flappy, stay focused on the question please

ocean robin
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and thanks Casca, that's what I am aiming for lel

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YES OKAY.

nocturne spruce
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😛

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Ok, thanks for clarifying Luna

pine ginkgo
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don't think there is any semantic difference

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but obviously grammar wise it can change

sudden panther
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Start with the preposition. Kinda like The old lady, whose husband I saw yesterday, bought me the flowers, about which I told you And pay extra attention to your cases.

ocean robin
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The flowers are a clause now? No verb?

sudden panther
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No I was just too lazy to type out the rest of it.

ocean robin
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Ah.

sudden panther
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There. 😛

ocean robin
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Die reiche Dame, deren dicke Mann ich gestern sah, hat mich die schönen Blumen gekauft, von die ich dich berichtete.

Wooo I am not sure.

sudden panther
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What case does von take?

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And why are we back to berichtete. Stop copypasting please.

ocean robin
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Christ.

nocturne spruce
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Just write the last sentence

ocean robin
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yes let me do that

sudden panther
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Yes, I'm fine with you only writing the clause we're working on, but please write it out completely instead of just copying in old mistakes.

ocean robin
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Die reiche Dame, deren dicke Mann ich gestern sah, hat mich die schönen Blumen gekauft, von der (dative for von right) ich dir erzählte.

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WAIT NO.

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Den for Blumen.

sudden panther
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Good Flopper. But what is the den in that sentence. Is it an article or something else?

ocean robin
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It's the flowers.

sudden panther
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Nou that's not what I meant. Is it an article or a relative pronoun?

ocean robin
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Relative pronoun.

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Wait...

sudden panther
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Waiting.

ocean robin
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Denen?

sudden panther
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Aaaaaaaa. Yes. Great job.

ocean robin
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Woooo.

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Die reiche Dame, deren dicke Mann ich gestern sah, hat mich die schönen Blumen gekauft, von denen ich dir erzählte.

nocturne spruce
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Why do I feel like "hat mich die schönen Blumen gekauft" is wrong

sudden panther
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Because you're a smart cookie.

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Flops, can you see why?

pine ginkgo
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pengu showing off his c-skills

nocturne spruce
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Oh, now that I look at it again

pine ginkgo
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:P

nocturne spruce
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I know why 😄

ocean robin
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Is it the wrong case?

sudden panther
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Sure is. But what?

nocturne spruce
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What is "it" referring to?

ocean robin
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Can't be nominative. mmlol

pine ginkgo
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fewer questions, more statements, flappsy

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if you just ask like that all the time

nocturne spruce
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Well that's correct flappy

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3 more choices remain

pine ginkgo
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it's kinda hard to see if you understand it

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since you always ask about the case

ocean robin
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Can't be genitive as well.

nocturne spruce
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prefect

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so you have 2 choices and nothing that would forcefully change a case (like a preposition)

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Put the correct cases

ocean robin
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I think it's dative, but I am looking foward why it should be. thinking_cat

pine ginkgo
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well

ocean robin
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to buy something to someone

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mmmh

nocturne spruce
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well, one of them has to be, but which one

cold vessel
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I told you, flappy, always ask the two questions

ocean robin
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I think it's mich which should be changed?

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die Blumen are okay for me

nocturne spruce
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ok

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why do you think that it should be changed?

ocean robin
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I don't think it's the flowers, because they are the direct object

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But you bought the flowers for me, and then me is indirect

nocturne spruce
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correct

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the indirect object always comes before the direct object

ocean robin
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woooo

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so sentence:

nocturne spruce
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take arrem's example as proof Ich gebe Floppsel ein Buch

pine ginkgo
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good call, pengu!

nocturne spruce
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Thank you captain Solet

ocean robin
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Die reiche Dame, deren dicke Mann ich gestern sah, hat mir die schönen Blumen gekauft, von denen ich dir erzählte.

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next mistake ™

nocturne spruce
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I don't know if there is something wrong with it, it looks fine to me

sudden panther
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A tiny thingo.

nocturne spruce
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oh

ocean robin
pine ginkgo
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bad pengu now

ocean robin
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wow

pine ginkgo
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i gonna mark you C- now

nocturne spruce
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My heart 💔

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But I deserve it

sudden panther
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After relative pronouns in genitive, we have to use the strong declension. You can kinda think that the relative pronoun isn't an article for the following noun, but a connector, and the noun remains there without any article, and defaults to the strong declension. So instead of doing deren dicke Mann, we have to pay attention to the actual case of the Mann in that sentence and apply the correct declension.

ocean robin
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👀

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Oh yeah that Mann.

nocturne spruce
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I actually didn't know that

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I dissapoint myself 😦

opal sequoia
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Aww, ninja. ❤

ocean robin
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Awww, don't Pengu! We learn everyday.

nocturne spruce
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Thanks base. ♥

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That we do flappy. ❤

viscid cape
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You disappoint me, Pengu.

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All other birds flying around.

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But you...

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You.

nocturne spruce
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I became a Ninja though

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that has to count for something

ocean robin
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^

viscid cape
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Fair enough, you're special.

ocean robin
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AND I AM A FOX WHO LEARNS GERMAN.

opal sequoia
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Not all birds fly. 😢

ocean robin
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I'LL BE THE FIRST.

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fite me >:3

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ANYWAY ARREM.

sudden panther
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Hammer's 6.2.1. b

ocean robin
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wot

opal sequoia
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Wow.

sudden panther
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Nothing I'm just quoting a section of a grammar book.

ocean robin
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Ah lel.

viscid cape
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Hammer's illegal copy detected

ocean robin
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Let me download that~

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LOL

opal sequoia
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I don't know if you're ready for that. 😶

nocturne spruce
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Use it only as a reference

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Not as learning material

ocean robin
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Ready for what?

viscid cape
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German.

nocturne spruce
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We don't need someone else asking at 4 am to construct a sentence in passiv plusquamperfekt

ocean robin
opal sequoia
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For trying to decipher a detailed grammar reference.

nocturne spruce
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That was a real nightmare

ocean robin
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Oh true.

opal sequoia
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If you are still learning what objects are, plainer grammar books are probably more suitable.

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But you could try it...

pine ginkgo
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lol the passiv plusquamperfekt

ocean robin
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I hope I still have the 2 books Arrem gave me the link.

pine ginkgo
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and then using modalverben

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i noped the fuck out of that tiem

nocturne spruce
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That one was mitch

pine ginkgo
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oh right

nocturne spruce
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The 4 am one was an A-Level, but I can't remember who

pine ginkgo
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then i was asleep probably

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so good thing i missed it

nocturne spruce
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It was my fault tbh, since he asked for a grammar book and I recommended hammer's

ocean robin
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So what's the declension then? thinking_cat

viscid cape
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Yeah you should've recommended duden's

nocturne spruce
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Go about it in 3 steps flappy

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1- Identify the case

ocean robin
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Mann is uuuuuuh.

nocturne spruce
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2- Identify whether it's a strong or weak adjective

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3- Identify the appropriate ending

ocean robin
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Not genitive because it's the deren which is.

sudden panther
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And I already did 2 for you.

nocturne spruce
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^

ocean robin
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wat

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Don't tell me the answer is in the screenshot

nocturne spruce
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No

pine ginkgo
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gets popcorn

nocturne spruce
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It's in the paragraph he wrote:
After relative pronouns in genitive, we have to use the strong declension. You can kinda think that the relative pronoun isn't an article for the following noun, but a connector, and the noun remains there without any article, and defaults to the strong declension. So instead of doing deren dicke Mann, we have to pay attention to the actual case of the Mann in that sentence and apply the correct declension.

ocean robin
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we have to use the strong declension

nocturne spruce
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Yup

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So go back to step 1

ocean robin
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So no genitive.

nocturne spruce
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yeah

ocean robin
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I need to have the sentence wait thinking_cat

sudden panther
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the Mann can't be genitive. Otherwise it would be Mannes. 😉

ocean robin
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"The rich lady, whose fat husband I saw yesterday, bought me the pretty flowers that I told you about."

cold vessel
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Learned that the hard way

ocean robin
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True though Arrem.

cold vessel
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Or the easy way 🤔

ocean robin
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Can't be nominative then because the subject is "ich"

nocturne spruce
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Correct

ocean robin
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So sehen jemanden or jemandem? thinking_cat

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I think it's Acc.

nocturne spruce
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Final answer?

ocean robin
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Direct object is der Mann.

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So den Mann, so acc.

nocturne spruce
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Good

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Move to step 3

ocean robin
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weeeee

sudden panther
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Ayy Flops got something right.

ocean robin
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Ayyy I am improving.

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What's step 3 again?

sudden panther
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Dammitflops.

nocturne spruce
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Identify the ending

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You could scroll up btw

pine ginkgo
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floppsy, memories of a goldfish

ocean robin
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-en?

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she says without cheating

sudden panther
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Why en of all the things? 🤔

ocean robin
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🤷 thought that it was okay because I actually remembered that den: -en

nocturne spruce
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Btw, try not using question marks when giving us answers

ocean robin
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OH.

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yeeeah strong declension thinking_cat

sudden panther
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It is okay. I just wanted an explanation. 😛

ocean robin
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Btw, try not using question marks when giving us answers

Arrem and Solet are witnesses that I do that everytime. mmlol

nocturne spruce
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Therefore

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Try

pine ginkgo
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ask questions for things you want to know

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do statements for things you want to do

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ask things, when you need an answer to do stuff

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do things to know if you are correct or not

ocean robin
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So I think it's -en.

nocturne spruce
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We'll still correct you either way, but questions make the corrector hesitate, since they can't know whether you think what you wrote is right or wrong

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Ok, now write the full sentence

ocean robin
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Die reiche Dame, deren dicken Mann ich gestern sah, hat mir die schönen Blumen gekauft, von denen ich dir erzählte.

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pfffiou

nocturne spruce
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Judges?

ocean robin
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Solet, Arrem, we call for you. mmlol

fair iron
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Not me? 😦

nocturne spruce
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I give you a 6/10 for the full journey

pine ginkgo
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i am not participating

nocturne spruce
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Can you provide us with a score Luna?

ocean robin
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Sorry Casca, forgot you. D:

pine ginkgo
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i give you 10/10 for insanity inducing

ocean robin
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And all the natives by the way.

fair iron
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^^

ocean robin
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OH WHAT WHO

nocturne spruce
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That's the only correct answer actually

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How long did this take btw

ocean robin
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"Insanty inducing"

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4 hours. mmlol

fair iron
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Longer, actually.

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That sentence is from last night. ^^

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But you never gave up! ❤

nocturne spruce
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4 hours and 36 minutes since the first translation

ocean robin
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Yeee Casca. ❤

nocturne spruce
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Not too bad, but you took too many pauses 😄

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Either way, well done.

ocean robin
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but you took too many pauses

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That is called life. mmlol

fair iron
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A girl's got to eat is the phrase, I think.

nocturne spruce
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That's called slacking off, but sure

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girk

ocean robin
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Nuuuh, I wasn't slacking off. 😦

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Eating, and then momma calling for me, stuff like that

nocturne spruce
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I'm just messing with you flappy

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You did well

ocean robin
viscid cape
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"Teacher I wasn't slacking off, my collegue Piérre called me, and also Maria, Fleur, Georgia, Annette"

ocean robin
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You know a lot about French names, don't you. 😛

fair iron
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Jean-Luc.

ocean robin
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Christian-Jean-Alexandre. mmlol

fair iron
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Napoleon.

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Louis.

placid heath
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The most french name ever is Pierre

ocean robin
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I go for 20 mins and then another translation.

placid heath
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Or Monsieur Baguette

ocean robin
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Classic, Casca, classic.

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korea that reminds me Daniel's recording omg

nocturne spruce
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I might join for the next translation, but I'll likely be busy

ocean robin
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"baguette baguette"

placid heath
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Honhonhon

sudden panther
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Ay she did it.

fair iron
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She always does.

sudden panther
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Or does she? 🤔

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Anyway, Floppser, I think we should take a more structured approach to this. Instead of just randomly translating sentences where you make a bunch of mistakes and are told a whole lot of new information that you promptly forget, we should try to focus on individual concepts until you get the hang of them. And not just through translations, but through exercises as well.

nocturne spruce
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I agree with that

hot cloak
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Hey

nocturne spruce
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Hi

sudden panther
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Mmm she isn't even here, nice.

ocean robin
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Mmmh oki dokie.

nocturne spruce
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Lol

ocean robin
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Exercises then. mmlol

sudden panther
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Want some now? 😛

ocean robin
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YES

sudden panther
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WER SCHREIT DA

ocean robin
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LOL

sudden panther
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Alrighto. We'll work by the book, but if you have questions or other things you'd like to focus on or learn about (e.g. school things), feel free to tell us. I'll take the liberty of skipping the first 4 chapters because they're memes and seeing what you know about imperatives. Have you seen them before?

cold vessel
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What book?

ocean robin
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Imperative? Like "SLEEP NOW"?

cold vessel
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Yes, but ignore that one 😛

ocean robin
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okay mmlol

sudden panther
ocean robin
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215 pages mmlol

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Oh, and you think so? open_mouth_cat

sudden panther
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I was talking to hen. 😛

ocean robin
sudden panther
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As for you, I don't know. It contains the basics and we've already mentioned 90% of the things in it, but I'd still like to go over everything slowly again, just to make sure that you have a solid foundation.

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Anyway, do you know which three forms the imperative can take?

viscid cape
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I agree with arrem though, step-by-step knowledge building is better than trying to learn new concepts based on exercises.

cold vessel
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@sudden panther That's doubtful

viscid cape
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Which is why you should pay attention to class, Fläpporz

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Even if you find it too eez.

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And possibly read additional material, like the one the wiener dude has recommended

ocean robin
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Bur subordinating clauses sadlol

pine ginkgo
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answer arrem, flaps

ocean robin
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wew he questioned me?

sudden panther
#

Anyway, do you know which three forms the imperative can take?

ocean robin
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3 forms? You mean du, sie and uuuh I forgot the 3rd. I wanted to say wir but saying an order to ourselves is odd.

sudden panther
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Also, unless you're a criminal, I asked you a question instead of questioning you. 😉

ocean robin
sudden panther
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Ordering ourselves is indeed weird. Although it can be 'faked'. Any other guesses?

ocean robin
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I'd go with du/ihr/sie. I think.

sudden panther
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Correcto. Except it's Sie and not sie. The polite form of you has the imperative, not she/they.

ocean robin
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Oh yeah.

sudden panther
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So, let's try translating eat more vegetables to all of those three forms. We'll start with the du.

ocean robin
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Good you just put essen which is a strong verb. Arrem clever. mmlol

sudden panther
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Blame the book. I don't feel like making up my own examples this late. 😛

ocean robin
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I wanted to say "aß" and then I was like "did I invent a new word again"

twilit garden
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Ass
Aas

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three different words

ocean robin
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wew

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gotta learn mmlol

sudden panther
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^None of which are what you're looking for. Check the conjugator if you're not sure.

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conj essen

ocean robin
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Waw and me who actually thought it was dat.

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Bleh iß. Essen you fokken strong verb. mmlol

sudden panther
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Except the site is weird and iß shouldn't be listed first because it's the old spelling. Use iss instead. ß should only come after long vowels.

viscid cape
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Yus or diphthongs

ocean robin
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Ah.

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So iss/isst/essen Sie mehr Gemüse? thinking_cat

pine ginkgo
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flaps

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is that a question

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or an answer.

quasi merlin
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Read the site again.

nocturne spruce
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Write the three sentences

ocean robin
cold vessel
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Why does it list the first person plural? Thought that wasn't a thing in imperative

ocean robin
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I actually tried to not do that, Mika, and then I will see again thinking_cat

fair iron
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Dors bien. I'm off. waevoli

nocturne spruce
quasi merlin
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Good night, Casca. waevoli

viscid cape
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Good night @fair iron

ocean robin
#

But actually seeing that I forgoy about imperative makes me a little bit sad. I learnt it months ago and mastered it. Holidays really killed my German.

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Good night Casca. waevoli

viscid cape
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@cold vessel It's equivalent to English let's ...

ocean robin
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Wow it's esst instead of isst. 👀

sudden panther
#

You'd usually fake the imperative for 1st person plural using lass uns.

pine ginkgo
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or if you are a strict parent

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Wir gehen JETZT

ocean robin
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You can't say I am almost B1 at this rate.

pine ginkgo
ocean robin
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LEL

sudden panther
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I never said that. 😛

pine ginkgo
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yep

quasi merlin
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You can't say I am almost B1 at this rate.

Less being sad, more learning.

ocean robin
viscid cape
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Dat discipline.

sudden panther
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Anyway Flops, yes, the imperative for the 2nd person plural is the same as the indicative form. It's only the 2nd person singular that actually varies.

ocean robin
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I saw that and it helps.

red pewter
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I just want to be A2 already T_T

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german is hard

sudden panther
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Man I don't know what I'm saying today. Krypt lifesaver. ❤

viscid cape
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I work in the shadows.

ocean robin
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Come here, A2-> B1 stuff here.

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👀

pine ginkgo
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eh.

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i wouldn't go that far

sudden panther
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When did we give you your A2 certificate? 😛

ocean robin
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It's even A1 -> A2 mmlol

sudden panther
#

In fact I don't recall giving you an A1 certificate either. 🤔

ocean robin
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IDK guys you said I was A2.

red pewter
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you give certificates :?

ocean robin
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🤷

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I will have 1 for English but not for German. And the tests online don't say whether you A1 or A2.

viscid cape
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@red pewter We're just teasing 😛

red pewter
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I know ~600 words so I'm hoping i'm firmly in A1 now. But eh if I'm not it's only been 4 weeks and I'll just have to work harder

pine ginkgo
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don't worry, just keep learning

ocean robin
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If you know even 1 word you're A1.

pine ginkgo
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it will all come

sudden panther
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@hot cloak Where's your Dannerd of the rich people certificate?

red pewter
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thank you ❤

cold vessel
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@ocean robin No

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There are requirements for A1

ocean robin
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The hell for real.

ocean robin
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Requirements? As introducing myself?

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WTF

sudden panther
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That's Dannerd's certificate.

ocean robin
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Geeman D2 (best of the world)

cold vessel
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Can understand and use familiar everyday expressions and very basic phrases aimed at the satisfaction of needs of a concrete type. Can introduce themselves and others and can ask and answer questions about personal details such as where he/she lives, people they know and things they have. Can interact in a simple way provided the other person talks slowly and clearly and is prepared to help.

ocean robin
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💯

red pewter
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amazing

ocean robin
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I can do that henburas.

nocturne spruce
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There are no requirements to become an A1 learner, there are requirements for when have learned A1

cold vessel
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What's the difference? 🤔

ocean robin
#

Now I want A2 requirements. And if I am not A2 then sad Floppsy will appear.

nocturne spruce
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Beginning of course and end of course

cold vessel
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Ok, with the edit I agree

nocturne spruce
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Yeah, I noticed that it was confusing

red pewter
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I don't know if i can talk about things I have...maybe a few things like "computer" "umbrella" "pillow" "cell phone"...

cold vessel
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But you don't say "I am level N" if you just passed level N-1

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You're learning level N sure

ocean robin
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Ayyy look I ordered a meal in Germany. That was fokking stressful.

nocturne spruce
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You are considered at an N level, once you are done with the first half of the level

red pewter
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when i was in korea, i tried to order 4 chicken nuggets and accidentally ordered 40 D:

cold vessel
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@nocturne spruce Is that an actual thing in the framework? 🤔

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Or just for the tags on this server?

nocturne spruce
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Not really

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It's for the server

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The Framework will identify you with the letter and number

sudden panther
#

Anyway Flops if you'd answer my question, maybe I'll give you an A1 certificate. 😛

nocturne spruce
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since B1 and B2 as well as C1 and C2 varry a lot

ocean robin
red pewter
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yeah i can't do that

nocturne spruce
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like Riot and I have the same role, but I'm no where near as good in German

ocean robin
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I can somehow

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OKAY ARREM THEN I'LL BE A1 FOR SURE

red pewter
#

how long have you been learning flappy :?

ocean robin
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2 years at school.

red pewter
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wowza

cold vessel
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At this point I feel like my vocabulary is holding me back a lot 😐

ocean robin
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The 2 other years were just nothing.

red pewter
#

anki EVERYTHING

nocturne spruce
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I know that feeling way too well @cold vessel

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Way too well

sudden panther
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But you don't say "I am level N" if you just passed level N-1
You do. Because passing the exam should be enough to prove that you have the knowledge required for the level. In practice, it may not, because you only need like 60% to pass, but still. It's a good measure. What you shouldn't do is give yourself the Level C role as soon as you start taking a C level class. Well actually you'd say I'm level N-1, not I'm level N.

red pewter
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i've been banking about 150 words a week with anki

pine ginkgo
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the vocabulary will come

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if you use the language

sudden panther
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Flops. Less talking, more doing?

nocturne spruce
#

Yeah, it does improve quickly, especially if you're surrounded by the language

ocean robin
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  • Iss mehr Gemüse.
  • Esst mehr Gemüse.
  • Essen Sie mehr Gemüse.

"�eat more vegetables, if you please" mmlol

red pewter
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I just want to go back to germany and not sound like a potato T_T

pine ginkgo
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i wouldnt worry too much about vocabulary, until you really have to use it

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as long as you know how to look up words

sudden panther
#

What's the last one in English supposed to be? 🤔

ocean robin
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The last one? Eh, uuuh, how to say that.

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Ah in English?

shy bobcat
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hey 😄 😄 😄 let’s do some translatearoonis

sudden panther
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Yes. The imperative is a command. There's no "if you please" involved, unless you actually say so.

ocean robin
#

No, that was a joke mmlol

viscid cape
#

@shy bobcat First learn German

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Fkn noob.

shy bobcat
#

tru

ocean robin
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:v

viscid cape
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"if you please" was golden though

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I liked it

shy bobcat
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@viscid cape oh says you, the bad influence on my german btw kappa

ocean robin
viscid cape
#

Shiet

hot cloak
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flspp

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flappzor

shy bobcat
#

fløppr

hot cloak
#

need French homework help

ocean robin
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look daniel and his D2 certificate

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OH WHERE.

shy bobcat
#

😩

pine ginkgo
#

oh no, distractions

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and it's daniel

shy bobcat
#

lel

hot cloak
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so I want to say 'I'm more independent '

ocean robin
#

moreover lel

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Yeeeah?

hot cloak
#

how do I say that in French

viscid cape
#

15+ minutes until Flöppers translates what she should

ocean robin
#

"Je suis plus indépendant."

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ther

hot cloak
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bullshitting my way through a 100 word essay

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thanks flappy

sudden panther
#

Okay. Let's do one more. Again, give me all 3 forms.
I'd like to see listen closely
And since I don't care about translations, use zuhören for listen and genau for closely. 😛

ocean robin
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No problem mmlol

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Closely for genau lel.

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wait whhhy seperable verbs ;u;

sudden panther
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Because we have to see how well you handle those. 😉

quasi merlin
#

Just do what you think is right.

shy bobcat
#

gib transl8eroonis

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@sudden panther 😄

sudden panther
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Mikuh go bully Arizona.

ocean robin
#

Just... listen to your instinct. mmlol

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LOL

cold vessel
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@shy bobcat Do the really awkward sentence I posted earlier today

shy bobcat
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which one

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I’ve been away since a while now

cold vessel
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Tbh it's probably way too easy for you

sudden panther
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Make a more awkwardererer one!

ocean robin
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Höre genau zu / Hört genau zu / Hören sie genau zu.

sudden panther
#

Now find the mistake.

shy bobcat
#

just give me the awkward sentence

cold vessel
#

The nice young man that you met yesterday went to the run-down store on the corner with his new friend to buy his favorite white chocolate because they had already eaten it all, but unfortunately it was sold out, so they went home empty-handed

How do you get more awkward than this 🤔

ocean robin
#

Mistake ™

pine ginkgo
#

that's the version with the mistake

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you fokken noob henbri

ocean robin
#

Oh my god thay sentence

quasi merlin
ocean robin
#

LOL

sudden panther
#

Flops, what's wrong with your sentences?

cold vessel
#

No one saw that 😅

ocean robin
#

I have no idea. mmlol

shy bobcat
#

I did 👀

sudden panther
#

Check again. Pay attention to everything.

ocean robin
sudden panther
#

E V E R Y T H I N G

ocean robin
#

HELL YEAH I DIDN'T CAPITALIZE THE SIE

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GREAT JOB FLOPS

sudden panther
#

Good Flopper. 🍪

ocean robin
#

Yay. noms the cookie

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Höre genau zu / Hört genau zu / Hören Sie genau zu.

hot cloak
#

flappzor

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gonna take a picture of my essay soo

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soon

ocean robin
#

helpz again? mmlol

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oki dokie

sudden panther
#

Ich muss euch mal zeigen worum's hier geht.
Passt gut auf, damit ihr mich versteht.
🎶

shy bobcat
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The nice young man that you met yesterday went to the run-down store on the corner with his new friend to buy his favorite white chocolate because they had already eaten it all, but unfortunately it was sold out, so they went home empty-handed

Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern kennengelernt hast, ist mit einem neuen Freund von ihm zum abgewohnten Laden an der Ecke gegangen, um seine Lieblingsweißschockolade zu kaufen, weil sie alles davon schon gegessen hatten, aber leider war sie ausverkauft, also sind sie mit leeren Händen nach Hause gegangen.

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@cold vessel

sudden panther
#

Find the imperatives Floppo.

ocean robin
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"Kennengelernt"

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exCuse mE whAt

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Passt Arrem. There's one. And I am even not sure. mmlol

shy bobcat
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👍

sudden panther
#

Almost correct, but incomplete.

shy bobcat
#

well, we don’t have to be too technicall, fløppr got it already, basically

sudden panther
#

We do though. 😛

ocean robin
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"Passt auf." kappa

ocean robin
#

the hekl arrem are you lost in YT again

quasi merlin
cold vessel
#

@shy bobcat Apparently "Lieblingsweißschockolade" doesn't work

ocean robin
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hint

cold vessel
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Because "weißschockolade" isn't a thing

quasi merlin
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"Schockolade" 🤔

ocean robin
#

Because YOU SHOULD STOP SPOILING.

viscid cape
#

Lazy town is some crazy shit.

ocean robin
shy bobcat
#

wait, how would you say it @quasi merlin

sudden panther
#

Alright Floppso, there isn't really much more to the imperative, so I'd say you know it. We'll quiz you again in a few days though. 😛

ocean robin
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Sure. mmlol

shy bobcat
#

Besides the spelling

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Schokolade*

pine ginkgo
#

we'd normally just leave out the weiße

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or

viscid cape
#

You'd better remember it when you're asked about it, otherwise...

pine ginkgo
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(mikuh inc)

shy bobcat
#

but it’s speciffically favourite white chocolate

sudden panther
#

So, more or are you gonna go to bed? 😛

quasi merlin
#

"white chocolate" is "weiße Schokolade", but you can't really attach "Lieblings-" to that.

shy bobcat
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Lieblingsscheißschokolade kappa

ocean robin
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LOL WHAT

cold vessel
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@shy bobcat Fun fact, this is basically impossible to say in Norwegian. Dunno about Danish

quasi merlin
#

So you'd probably do what Luna said and leave out the "white" part.

shy bobcat
#

ok

ocean robin
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Arrem, I'll think I'll go to bed.

sudden panther
#

Disappointing. Shameless. Awful.

shy bobcat
#

so, you literally cannot say a “favourite (adjective) X” in German?

ocean robin
#

But I WAKE UP AT 5 AM TOMMOROW

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DAMN.

sudden panther
#

Alrighto Flops, you did good today. Good nighto and see you tomorrow. waevoli

quasi merlin
#

No, you can't, Arizona.

viscid cape
#

Good night foxy fox, see you tomorow.

shy bobcat
#

RIP

ocean robin
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Ah thankies Arrem. See ya everyone. waevoli

quasi merlin
#

Good night, Fläppers. waevoli

shy bobcat
#

@quasi merlin so how would you phrase “her favourite blue dress”, “ihr Lieblingskleid, das blau ist”?

cold vessel
#

You can say "his preferred white chocolate" 🤷

quasi merlin
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Btw. I'd prefer "heruntergekommen" for "run-down", what do you think, @pine ginkgo ?

pine ginkgo
#

klingt gut

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mikuh klug

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quasi

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mikluh

sudden panther
#

Also, given that the whole bully Flops squad is here now, a little PSA for you all, after some serious discussion™ we've decided to change our approach
Anyway, Floppser, I think we should take a more structured approach to this. Instead of just randomly translating sentences where you make a bunch of mistakes and are told a whole lot of new information that you promptly forget, we should try to focus on individual concepts until you get the hang of them. And not just through translations, but through exercises as well.
We're using that old book thingo, so when bullying Flops, ask her what she did last time and do either that or the next thing in the book. http://www.prsformusicfoundation.com/docs/408/Schenke - Seago - Basic German.pdf Take small steps and don't give her sentences where she can make a billion mistakes at the same time.

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Except Casca I guess, so @fair iron ^

quasi merlin
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"ihr Lieblingskleid, welches blau ist"

pine ginkgo
#

in b4 there will b a secret flops role

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and secret flops channel

viscid cape
#

Can you say" Betäubungsmittelverschreibungsverordnung"? Yes, excellent German, mein Herr, everything okay. Can you say "Lieblingsweißschokolade" though? OMG NO, that sounds terrible, terrible German.

shy bobcat
#

aww but bullying flops’ 500 mistakes is fun

sudden panther
#

I almost made one when that guy kept spoiling things. Fortunately he stopped. 😛

shy bobcat
#

that guy

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😔

sudden panther
#

I don't mean you. 😛

ocean robin
shy bobcat
#

🤔

quasi merlin
#

GO TO SLEEP!

sudden panther
#

There was a native that just gave away the correct answers because he "didn't care".

viscid cape
#

This book is pretty cool

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Fläppers you should read all of it, I mean it

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And do all exercises

pine ginkgo
#

i wish i could stop caring about flops

toxic urchin
#

Theres a ghost under your bed flappers

ocean robin
#

lel

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Krypto, sadly I don't have enough time.

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And yes yes going to sleep.

pine ginkgo
#

Let's call it

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the Flopser Appraisal Internal Law

sudden panther
#

She doesn't have enough time because going offtopic takes up all of her time. 😛

ocean robin
#

the Flopser Appraisal Internal Law ™

pine ginkgo
#

in short

quasi merlin
#

Go.

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To.

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Sleep.

ocean robin
#

wow such discipline

viscid cape
#

We lurv you foxy.

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-pinches yo cheek-

ocean robin
#

Wow Solet it makes FAIL as an acronym. Is that intentional.

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uuuuwa what

quasi merlin
#

You bet it is.

shy bobcat
#

of course it is

ocean robin
shy bobcat
pine ginkgo
#

oh wow

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it does

ocean robin
#

bullying ™

pine ginkgo
#

what curious happenstance

shy bobcat
#

I was about to say, that placement of “internal” feels a bit off

ocean robin
#

LOL

shy bobcat
#

but obviously it wouldn’t be FAIL if you moved it

pine ginkgo
#

i have a better version

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Flopser Appraisal Integrated Learning

ocean robin
#

Anyway goooood night you lovely bullies. ❤ waevoli

quasi merlin
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Good night again. waevoli

sudden panther
#

Night Floppo. waevoli

shy bobcat
#

well I attempted to translate “the Flopser Appraisal Internal Law” into German, before noticing “FAIL” 😅

Das Flopser-Innenbewertungsgesetz

sudden panther
#

Time to bully Arizona.

shy bobcat
#

😄

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yaaaaay

pine ginkgo
#

do you want the

#

you suck

#

or you done okay

#

approach

#

🤔

#

asking in advance this time

toxic urchin
#

Im sure shes still here reading these messages

shy bobcat
#

tbh, tell me if I suck if I actually suck

pine ginkgo
#

sure sure

shy bobcat
#

just don’t go full on 😂

pine ginkgo
#

as long as you don't full flops

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it's alright

#

or full daniel

#

shudder

shy bobcat
#

ich habe gegangen voll flops kappa

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jk

sudden panther
shy bobcat
#

lel

#

anyway

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transl8erooni time

sudden panther
#

Remind me to give Floppo her A1 certificate tomorrow. mmlol

shy bobcat
sudden panther
#

Oh look she's still here.

hot cloak
#

Flappy left huh

shy bobcat
#

there’s been a whole lot of flapps discussion and not a whole lot of des traductionnes

hot cloak
#

shit

ocean robin
#

Nope.

hot cloak
#

OH FLAPPZ

quasi merlin
#

@ocean robin ...

sudden panther
ocean robin
#

DANIEL GIMMA THAT BEFORE 11 PM PLEASE.

hot cloak
pine ginkgo
#

It is time to remind Arrem to give the Flopppelops a hand made certificate for reaching a certain level, so a notification should be send to Arrem.

sudden panther
#

wow daniel you suck

pine ginkgo
#

let's go easy, teeeis

ocean robin
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" être jeune c'est très bon mais mauvais"

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dat contradiction

hot cloak
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at

shy bobcat
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I’m probably gonna fail at spelling something since I’m a mess today

hot cloak
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da same time

pine ginkgo
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banned for mistakes!

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(since i was too lazy to make it more advanced)

sudden panther
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This is like the Daniel challenge in French. I bet all he's saying is "I like being young because I've been young all my life. And I'm good at being young. I've never been old. Because I'm young. Yeah."

ocean robin
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"L'école, c'est ennuyeux."

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"Nous avons amusement." "Nous nous amusons."

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"C'est mon opinion." (not feminine)

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[the end] bon tout le temps"

thick charm
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toot

shy bobcat
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Es ist die Zeit, Arrem zu erinnern, Floppelops ein handgemachtes Zertifikat (oder Zeugnis?) zu geben, weil sie ein bestimmtes Niveau erreicht hat, also sollte eine Benachrichtung (oder Erwähnung?) zu Arrem gesendet werden.

hot cloak
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are thise the only mistakes?

ocean robin
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"Les examens sont stressants."

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mmmh

pine ginkgo
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oh got teeeis

cold vessel
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nous nous

pine ginkgo
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mhh

hot cloak
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my mum is totally gonna know I got this corrected shiit

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oh well

pine ginkgo
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good job teeeis

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one minor thing

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which is... not necessarily a mistake

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but

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something we do

ocean robin
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And then it's correct. :)

shy bobcat
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can you tell me which of the two parentheses’d words was correct

hot cloak
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woopdidoo

pine ginkgo
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both

shy bobcat
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I kinda put two guesses in

viscid cape
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"Not necessarily a mistake but something we do if we want to be correct"

shy bobcat
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@viscid cape so a stylistic thing

pine ginkgo
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drop the artikel für zeit

marble glade
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"parce que je peux faire CE que je veux"

ocean robin
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wow I am tired

marble glade
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@hot cloak

shy bobcat
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@viscid cape like, in portuguese “eu sou ari” you don’t need a eu but it’s correct with or without

ocean robin
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oh yeah he dropped the "ce"

viscid cape
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@marble glade isn't tired, you shouldn't be tired either

hot cloak
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I'll remember that for the future

ocean robin
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👀

pine ginkgo
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you read me, teeeis?

thick charm
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Yeah, it's just like in English. "It's time" and "Es ist Zeit" both usually go without an article.

hot cloak
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but I think I'll leave it out of this one

viscid cape
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@shy bobcat Since when do you know that eyeslol

hot cloak
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cuz my mum would definitely know I got this checked

shy bobcat
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@viscid cape Google

ocean robin
shy bobcat
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and Spanish

viscid cape
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@shy bobcat Shush and answer Luna

shy bobcat
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@thick charm yeah, but you germans like your articles

cold vessel
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Are you being home schooled, Daniel?

shy bobcat
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@pine ginkgo yes

marble glade
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@hot cloak Tu peux remplacer tous les "bon" par "bien"

sudden panther
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No.

marble glade
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on dit "C'est bien d'être jeune" et pas "C'est bon d'être jeune"

sudden panther
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But his parents work at his school, so yes.

pine ginkgo
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you can use the artikel in phrases like

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"Die Zeit ist gekommen"/"Es ist die Zeit gekommen"

quasi merlin
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Or "Es ist an der Zeit"

ocean robin
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@marble glade Ça se dit tho thinking_cat

pine ginkgo
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oh, mikluh!

shy bobcat
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Hallo mika

quasi merlin
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Hallo, Arizona, ich war nicht weg.

ocean robin
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Ou alors je ne parle plus français.

shy bobcat
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😛

thick charm
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"Alles was wichtig ist, wirst du erkennen, wenn die Zeit gekommen ist."

ocean robin
thick charm
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👌

pine ginkgo
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LEB DEINEN TRAUM

ocean robin
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And now shall I disappear at once.

shy bobcat
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alright @pine ginkgo now give me something i’m prolly gonna fuck up on 😄 😛

pine ginkgo
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DEN ER WIRD WAHR

quasi merlin
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*denn

pine ginkgo
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oh

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fk

shy bobcat
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Rip

pine ginkgo
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typo mmlol

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:flopssing:

ocean robin
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give something that you can bully Arizona on mmlol

shy bobcat
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when you type das instead of dass and try to call it a typo mmlol

ocean robin
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FLOPPSING LOL I CAN'T

quasi merlin
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I do the opposite.

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I type "dass" instead of "das".

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After commas

shy bobcat
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tbh, I’m not sure which one I do more often

sudden panther
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In whatsoever mode, or by whatsoever means, our knowledge may relate
to objects, it is at least quite clear that the only manner in which it
immediately relates to them is by means of an intuition. To this as the
indispensable groundwork, all thought points. But an intuition can take
place only in so far as the object is given to us. This, again, is only
possible, to man at least, on condition that the object affect the
mind in a certain manner. The capacity for receiving representations
(receptivity) through the mode in which we are affected by objects,
objects, is called sensibility. By means of sensibility, therefore,
objects are given to us, and it alone furnishes us with intuitions; by
the understanding they are thought, and from it arise conceptions. But
an thought must directly, or indirectly, by means of certain signs,
relate ultimately to intuitions; consequently, with us, to sensibility,
because in no other way can an object be given to us.

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Go teeis. mmlol

shy bobcat
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ahh

viscid cape
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That's Kant

toxic urchin
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Tldr pls

ocean robin
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LOL PING ME TO SEE THW TRANSLATION

sudden panther
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tldr some boring philosophy stuff

ocean robin
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YEAH AND TLDR

shy bobcat
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I don’t even know what the original text is saying 😅

sudden panther
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It is indeed Kant. Nice. 👌

torn latch
ocean robin
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WOOOO CHUCKERINA

shy bobcat
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well, the original english text, since I’m pretty sure Kant was actually German

ocean robin
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and bye.

sudden panther
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I took the first paragraph from Kritik der reinen Vernunft. 😛

ocean robin
quasi merlin
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@ocean robin Shouldn't you be sleeping? Geez.

torn latch
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Woooo fläppy waevoli

sudden panther
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Hia Chuckerina. waevoli

pine ginkgo
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After noticing that they have just come to life, the biologist quickly prepared a suitable vessel to sample the new population of her secretly raised species of especially adorable cats.

torn latch
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and bye flap

ocean robin
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I shouls Mika. mmlol

quasi merlin
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Don't expect a third "good night" <_<

sudden panther
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FOkKEN fLOPpER Go To sLEEP

viscid cape
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That paragraph is majestic, I'd learn German just to read it

ocean robin
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Yes, just, don't mute me like last time

quasi merlin
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Stop typing, Fläppers.

pine ginkgo
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or do arrem's

quasi merlin
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Go to sleep.

sudden panther
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That's a lovely sentence, Solet.

shy bobcat
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I’ll do urs lel

ocean robin
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O-okay.

sudden panther
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No more mutes Flops. The next one is a ban. 😛

torn latch
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nuuuuuu

marble glade
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@ocean robin Oui ça se dit mais grammaticalement c'est mieux aha, c'est plus familier de dire "C'est bon d'être jeune" 😉

shy bobcat
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I am 99 percent sure I’m gonna end up using the word for “blood vessel” or “vessel” as in a boat already, since I’m using the power of the dictionary

quasi merlin
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Let's just ignore her if she comes back again.

pine ginkgo
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i mean

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just by context

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you should know the correct vessel

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😦

shy bobcat
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I know what they mean

pine ginkgo
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i hope

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😦

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if you end with a ship

shy bobcat
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I just know I’m gonna select a wrong word because I’m a blitering idiot

pine ginkgo
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then... it might be fun

shy bobcat
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well yeah luckily all the nautical ones ended in Schiff and Wasserfahrzeug and stuff like that

cold vessel
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I'm looking forward to being good enough to read the definitions in Duden

pine ginkgo
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as usual

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i give you creative freedom

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as long as the semantics of the sentence still hold

shy bobcat
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I’m also not entirely certain what sample is supposed to mean

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in context