general-2

[shy bobcat]

so, what you’re saying, is I could be the next goethe already

just kidding

[pine ginkgo]

most notable poetic freedom is

[shy bobcat]

I’m a crap writer as is

[cold vessel]

You have to know the language reeeally well to know what rules to break though

[nocturne spruce]

You can be the current Arizona

[pine ginkgo]

cutting of declensions

and even more flexible word order

[nocturne spruce]

Makes sense, in Arabic it's changing the vowel mark for the last letter

[pine ginkgo]

Auf den grünen Hügeln ich geh,
wenn die schön Maid ich seh

etc etc

[placid heath]

Auf den grün'n Hügeln ward geseh'n, was ich niemals kann versteh'n

[pine ginkgo]

:D

[shy bobcat]

so, I could already be a german poet with my shit grammar

[placid heath]

Büsche und Fichten \
Können nicht dichten

[pine ginkgo]

nope

because your german sounds shit

:P

[shy bobcat]

anyway, anyone just got a normal sentence to translate, that I won’t feel bad about not making rhyme

[pine ginkgo]

Ik ben de Flops

[shy bobcat]

that’s dutch, doesn’t count

[placid heath]

Kannietverstaan

[viscid cape]

[shy bobcat]

[cold vessel]

But at least in everyday language, we still consider ourselves to be the same person from birth to death. And whether or not that’s a valid standard by which to consider oneself the same person, for our purposes, we’ll use this standard of everyday language.

Go

[viscid cape]

Who said that 😂

Cool

[cold vessel]

Random sentence from an article I was reading 😛

[viscid cape]

Aber zumindest in der Alltagssprache halten wir uns für dieselbe Person von der Geburt bis zum Tod. Und ob das ein gültiger Standard ist oder nicht, demzufolge man sich für dieselbe Person halten sollte, werden wir für unsere Zwecke diesen Standard der Alltagssprache benutzen.

🤔

Sounds pretty artificial though

[shy bobcat]

Aber zumindest in der Alltagsprache halten wir uns für denselben Menschen von Geburt bis zum Tod. Und entweder das ein valider Standard oder nicht ist, sich für denselben Menschen zu halten, zu unserem Zweck werden wir diesen Standard der Alltagsprache benutzen. that’s my go

[cold vessel]

Now to wait 8 hours for the natives to wake up again and correct it

[viscid cape]

Zweck is better than Ziel

and Alltagssprache than alltägliche Sprache

[shy bobcat]

☀🌙 is still online according to discord 🤔

[viscid cape]

@cold vessel Provide the answer yu dik.

[cold vessel]

How should I know 🤷

[pine ginkgo]

you have work to do

[viscid cape]

Can you be a wee wee bit more specific

[cold vessel]

I thought he meant me 🤔

[viscid cape]

Oh

Then doo your work mate

[cold vessel]

I'll get back to you in a couple of years

😅

[shy bobcat]

I’m pretty sure sol means u @viscid cape since you tried to translate

[viscid cape]

I don't know how I can corect it further, he needs to provide more specific info

[quasi merlin]

"entweder" doesn't work, Arizona.

[shy bobcat]

yeah I got a correction already

Aber zumindest in der Alltagssprache halten wir uns für denselben Menschen von der Geburt bis zum Tod. Und ob das ein gültiger Standard ist oder nicht , sich für denselben Menschen zu halten, zu unserem Zweck werden wir diesen Standard der Alltagssprache benutzen.

?

[opal sequoia]

Mir bitte einen Satz?

[viscid cape]

But at least in everyday language, we still consider ourselves to be the same person from birth to death. And whether or not that’s a valid standard by which to consider oneself the same person, for our purposes, we’ll use this standard of everyday language.
Go

[quasi merlin]

Sí, that funktioniert, Arizona.

[viscid cape]

That was the sentence we just tried

[shy bobcat]

@quasi merlin denglischpañol 😩

[quasi merlin]

ごめん

[opal sequoia]

Thanks I will attempt.

[viscid cape]

👌

[quasi merlin]

It's time to hit the hay.

Good night.

[viscid cape]

Good night Mikachu

[shy bobcat]

n8i

[opal sequoia]

Aber immerhin in Allgemeinsprache halten wir uns von der Geburt bis zum Tod als dieselbe Person. Und egal, ob dieser Standard, mit der man sich als dieselbe Person haltet, gültig ist, werden wir diesen Standard in Allgemeinsprache benutzen.

[pine ginkgo]

irgendwann wird einer von euch das richtig haben

irgendwann

[opal sequoia]

Glaube ich nicht.

[pine ginkgo]

kurzer tipp/kurze berichtigung

es heißt zwar Im Allgemeinen - in general

aber In der Allgemeinsprache

und

von der Geburt bis zum Tod kann man so sagen

aber besser wäre

von der Geburt an

[opal sequoia]

Ooh.

[pine ginkgo]

und

das verb ist

sich für etwas halten

[opal sequoia]

Passt "in der Alltagssprache" viel besser?

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

würd ich sagen, ja

[opal sequoia]

Aber immerhin in der Alltagssprache halten wir uns von der Geburt an für dieselbe Person. Und egal, ob dieser Standard, mit der man sich für dieselbe Person haltet, gültig ist, werden wir diesen Standard in der Alltagssprache benutzen.

[pine ginkgo]

oh, das bis zum Tod kannst du drinlassen, wenn du willst

wollte nur sagen, dass man eher Von der Geburt an stat Von der Geburt sagt

in diesem Falle

[opal sequoia]

Ja, verstehe. Muss aber die neue Idee ausprobieren.

Für mich klingt zum Tod besser, wenn es von "für" gefolgt wird.

[pine ginkgo]

Für mich

[shy bobcat]

ey leute, ich habe bock drauf, mehr Sätze zu übersetzen 😄

[pine ginkgo]

fixe erstmal deinen satz :p

[shy bobcat]

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

vergiss nicht, wenn hauptsätze nicht die erste klausel sind

dann steht das verb am anfang

in den hauptsätzen

[shy bobcat]

ist “...habe ich...” wirklich Richtiges?

oder nur “richtig” lel

[pine ginkgo]

ich meinte deine vorherige übersetzung

:D

[shy bobcat]

ich habe sie leider schon vergessen 😅

[pine ginkgo]

wenn du deinen versuch mit dem von base kombinierst

habt ihr eine richtige übersetzung

:D

[shy bobcat]

Aber immerhin in der Alltagssprache halten wir uns von der Geburt an für dieselbe Person. Und egal, ob dieser Standard, mit der man sich für dieselbe Person haltet, gültig ist, werden wir diesen Standard in der Alltagssprache benutzen.

Aber zumindest in der Alltagssprache halten wir uns für denselben Menschen von der Geburt bis zum Tod. Und ob das ein gültiger Standard ist oder nicht , sich für denselben Menschen zu halten, zu unserem Zweck werden wir diesen Standard der Alltagssprache benutzen.

erster ist base, zweiter bin ich.

also

Aber zumindest in der Alltagssprache halten wir uns für denselben Menschen von der Geburt bis zum Tod. Und ob das ein gültiger Standard ist oder nicht , sich für denselben Menschen zu halten, werden wir zu unserem Zweck diesen Standard der Alltagssprache benutzen.

?

[viscid cape]

Du hast meinen vergessen

Aber zumindest in der Alltagssprache halten wir uns für dieselbe Person von der Geburt an. Und ob das ein gültiger Standard ist oder nicht, demzufolge man sich für dieselbe Person halten sollte, werden wir zu unseren Zwecken diesen Standard der Alltagssprache benutzen.

[shy bobcat]

hmm.... hört sich mMn ein bisschen “wörtliche Englischübersetzung” an.

[viscid cape]

Welchen Teil meinst du

[shy bobcat]

für unsere Zwecke
ich habe “for our purposes” ”zu unserem Zweck” übersetzt

[viscid cape]

You're right

But why in singular?

[shy bobcat]

because that is how it is

it sounds more german that way

imo

[nocturne spruce]

The first sentence from Kryp seems better to me than yours or Base's

The purposes point is odd, neither sounds wrong to me, but the English one sounds weird anyways

[viscid cape]

Yeah the English sounds a bit odd to me, but I'm no native speaker

As for the German I can't comment much

😂

[shy bobcat]

meh, “for our purposes” sounds fine imo

[nocturne spruce]

Well you're the native, so i'll take your word for it

[uncut ember]

yo

how do you say

i mean

how do you use

euch

[viscid cape]

Hello Russian dude

[uncut ember]

hey my bro

im actually an indian-american

[viscid cape]

You know 'ihr'? Euch is the accusative/dative form of it

[uncut ember]

waht is ihr again

its it

or is it he

[viscid cape]

It can also be the reflexive pronoun in accusative and dative as well

[nocturne spruce]

Plural "You"

[viscid cape]

It's you (plural informal)

[uncut ember]

ok

so like

if you were adressing your entire group of friends or like, hey, you guys

it would be ihr

[nocturne spruce]

No

If you are adressing them, they are the object

so it's "Euch"

if they are doing something

then "Ihr"

[viscid cape]

I think he means addressing as in, talking to

[nocturne spruce]

Oh

[uncut ember]

ja

[nocturne spruce]

I thought, like addressing as in "addressing"

[uncut ember]

ive been spending a lot of time around Germans and swedes

[shy bobcat]

well, it depends.... you could say “Ihr, kommt bitte mal her” and that would be adressing them, whilst they are the subject

[uncut ember]

so now ive started to use J as a y sometimes

[nocturne spruce]

Yeah, that works too Arizona

Didn't consider it

[uncut ember]

@shy bobcat that thing you just said is like, you guys, come please at this time?

im sorry the word order in this language confuses me

[shy bobcat]

nah, “y’all, come here please” is how I’d say it

the word mal is confusing

[nocturne spruce]

"Mal" here is to soften the statement

[shy bobcat]

but here it basically “softens” the imperative

yeah

[uncut ember]

I thought it ment time

so

like dreimals is three times zweimals is twice

[viscid cape]

It does, but not in this context

[uncut ember]

k

just like Doch

[nocturne spruce]

Pretty much

[shy bobcat]

modal particles 😍

[viscid cape]

I don't like them tbh

[nocturne spruce]

You and confusing things, are a match made in heaven

[viscid cape]

They add imprecision

[uncut ember]

so correct me if i am wrong, but doch is 1. to counter a negative like nicht, nie, or kein 2. also to soften an imperitive

and also as a synonym to aber but I dont know when that rule applies

[viscid cape]

Yes @uncut ember I think so

[uncut ember]

so how do you distinguesh whether to use doch or mal

when softening the imperativ

[viscid cape]

No idea

[shy bobcat]

I don’t really use doch like that, maybe you can

but it seems a bit weird

[nocturne spruce]

I don't feel like "doch" does much softening

[shy bobcat]

yeah

in fact I’d say it hardens it almost

[nocturne spruce]

yeah

[uncut ember]

the word order in German really confuses me

if you derectly translated it it would sound like stereotypical medieval english

like beware all ye who enter

[nocturne spruce]

according to the Hammer grammar book

[shy bobcat]

@uncut ember isn’t it great 😄

[nocturne spruce]

"Doch" is for adding impatience

[shy bobcat]

shows english’s germanic roots really weil

[uncut ember]

Anglish master race

[nocturne spruce]

There are a lot of other uses for doch as well

[uncut ember]

we need to cleanse English of those stupid French loans

screw that

[shy bobcat]

no

[uncut ember]

jk dont get to riled up

[shy bobcat]

the stereotypical medieval english is full of french too 😄

[uncut ember]

yeah

Its middle enlish, the period of time where English was basically French bastard creole

[shy bobcat]

the amount of irregular verbs in english alone show it’s not a creole

😄

[uncut ember]

english has changed since the 1300s

and yeah, english is full of irregular verbs

[shy bobcat]

I speak an actual creole language, there is basically no irregular words

[uncut ember]

which one Afrikaans?

[shy bobcat]

naw, sranan tongo, I learned it off an admin of another server lel

[uncut ember]

oh

yeah

English has a ton of really weird irregulars

[viscid cape]

"I learned it off an admin of another server lel"

[shy bobcat]

mi ben leri sranan tongo bika a admin-man dat ben lobi yepi mi 😄

[uncut ember]

like how the past tense of gone is Went

[viscid cape]

You're so casual about it, I kinda want to punch you 🤔

[shy bobcat]

well that’s basically how it went

[uncut ember]

Yep

[shy bobcat]

it’s so easy to pick up because it has basically no grammar

“I am come therefor, the dragon to quell” = “Ich bin dafür angekommen, den Drachen zu erschlagen” 😩

[uncut ember]

It just occured to me I speak two languages, and am learning another, and one of the languages is thousands of miles from the other two and have had little contact until a very recent period, historically speaking, yet every langauge I am speaking or learning is an Indo-European language

[shy bobcat]

yep 😄

[uncut ember]

where did you all non-natives get the inspiration to start learning the language from

?

[shy bobcat]

was going to germany, thought to learn some german

😄

[uncut ember]

For me, first I love history, so learning languages is altogether not as hard for me as some others, and because I watched some german language films and it flowed so well and I was like oh my god i want to learn to talk like that.

[nocturne spruce]

I want to study in Switzerland, and well, it comes with the teritory that I have to learn German

[uncut ember]

Schweiz liebt geld geld geld

[nocturne spruce]

I never considered myself to be someone who loves languages and I also don't tend to learn quickly, but learning German has been fun

Trust me I know 😄

[uncut ember]

Germany will provide you with foreign aid while Schweiz will just store your worthless currency.

did any of you see that Polandball that was like: all the Germans

and it was Northern Germans like Sweden and Norway

[nocturne spruce]

No, I didn't

[uncut ember]

and then Evil Mountain Germans like Austria

Germans in denial like the Swiss

and then French Germans like Luxembourg

[nocturne spruce]

Either way, my reasoning to study in switzerland has more to do with my career goal rather than the university itself

[uncut ember]

and honorary Germans like Japan

what career do you want

[nocturne spruce]

I want to work at the CERN, so I'm majoring in Physics for my bachelor and then continuing into Quantum Physics

[uncut ember]

Nuclear physiks?

[nocturne spruce]

so since my end goal is in Switzerland, it's a good idea to study there as well, since Jordanian education is garbage

Nuclear and Quantum are two different things

[uncut ember]

sorry

i will avoid science flame wars

[nocturne spruce]

Lol

It's fine, I just felt like clarifying

[uncut ember]

I dont really get what Quantum physics is just all I know is something about treating light as packets of "Quanta" or something

[nocturne spruce]

Well, that's a start

Quantum physics involves sub-atomic particles, fundemental particles and the rest of that package

[uncut ember]

lmao my level of science doesn't really go beyond knowing what a parsec is

ok

[nocturne spruce]

It's fun if you like the topic, absolutely confusing otherwise

[uncut ember]

yep

i love aeronautics

especially Space and stuff

so

if I was going to ask you

what would be the best way to learn how to construct German sentences?

Like translating something

[nocturne spruce]

Hmmm

[uncut ember]

and would it be bad if i used a lot of English until I learned the German terms and phrases?

[nocturne spruce]

How much grammar do you know?

[uncut ember]

I know

that when a incomplete clause, you putthe verb at the end

[nocturne spruce]

Using English is fine, but use a dictionary often to make sure that you're making progress

[uncut ember]

and I know that when youre using a verb in the past tense, youre supposed to do the whole ge(word)t thing

[nocturne spruce]

Are you familiar with the four cases?

[uncut ember]

ye

I also know mosto fhe article decleansions

[nocturne spruce]

Are you familiar with the tenses?

[uncut ember]

no

or at least

not much

[nocturne spruce]

I'm assuming you know Present and Perfect

[uncut ember]

Present is obvious

[nocturne spruce]

perfect is "Haben" + "Partizip II"

the "ge" thing

[uncut ember]

is it related to past tense

?

What is a partizip II sorry i m confused

[nocturne spruce]

past participle

[uncut ember]

ok

so what other ones are there

im assuming the ge-t thing is for weak verbs

or strong verbs

[nocturne spruce]

it's for most verbs

there are exceptions

verbs with an inseperable prefix for example don't take "ge"

[uncut ember]

ok

[nocturne spruce]

sometimes the verb takes "ge-en"

[uncut ember]

give an example please

of insep prefix

[nocturne spruce]

"erreichen" for example

becomes "erreicht"

while a seperable prefix verb

like "ansehen"

becomes "angesehen"

where the "ge" comes in between the prefix and the verb

Is that clear?

[uncut ember]

yep

vielen dank

[nocturne spruce]

so back to the original question then?

[uncut ember]

ok

[nocturne spruce]

German shares a lot of things with English, a typical sentence will have a subject, a verb and an object

if you can identify them well, you'll be able to translate grammatically

How well do you feel that you can identify the basic parts of the sentence?

[uncut ember]

maybe

60/40

[nocturne spruce]

Ok, so let's try it in English first, then in German

In a sentence like: I watched a film

Identify the subject, object and verb

[uncut ember]

the film is the subject

[nocturne spruce]

no

[uncut ember]

no

soryr

the film is the object

I am the subject

[nocturne spruce]

yup

[uncut ember]

and I watched

so watched is the verb

[nocturne spruce]

good

same thing applies to german

Ich sah einen Film an

is the same sentence

[uncut ember]

why the an at the end

[nocturne spruce]

seperable verbs do that

the verb comes after the noun

and the prefix goes at the end

This happens in both Present and Past, but not in Perfect

[uncut ember]

wahts the difference between past and perfekt

I get theyre both to talk about the past

[nocturne spruce]

in German, past is used in written language while perfekt is used for speaking

Perfekt is far more common from what I've seen

It doesn't have the same "tone" to it as in English, where they describe different time points

[uncut ember]

so what is the same sentence in perfekt?

[nocturne spruce]

Both Ich sah einen Film an and Ich habe einen Film angesehen mean the same thing

The second one I wrote is the perfekt one

[uncut ember]

ok

got it.

so if you were to tell your friend I saw a film, you would probably say the second thing

?

[shy bobcat]

I think in literary german the perfect and preterite mean what they do in english

[nocturne spruce]

For now, we'll stick only to perfekt, since it's more relevant

[shy bobcat]

but in spoken german they just use perfekt

[uncut ember]

so you would say the second thing, but write the first one.

[nocturne spruce]

pretty much

no one will say anything if you simply use the second

The difference comes up in news or literature more than it does in conversation

so now I'll give you another perfekt example and I want you to identify the basic parts of the sentence(ignore "haben"), ok?

@uncut ember you there?

[uncut ember]

oh ok

ok

yeah

sorry

[nocturne spruce]

No need to appologize 😃

Ok Ich habe einen Apfel gegesen

Ignore habe and tell me the Subject, Object and Verb

[uncut ember]

Subject: Ich

object: einen Apfe

gesen is the verb

ge makes it past perfeckt

[nocturne spruce]

it's just called perfekt, because there are other variants

[uncut ember]

ok

[nocturne spruce]

but you're correct on everything so well done

[uncut ember]

i gotta eat dinner

see ya later

[nocturne spruce]

See ya

[uncut ember]

bye

[nocturne spruce]

bye

[red pewter]

would a kind person kindly give me 4 example sentences with the same noun in nom/acc/gen/dat? http://germanforenglishspeakers.com/reference/complete-declension-tables/ Trying to understand that and its function and I have a pretty good handle on english but for some reason I'm still messing this up

[tacit jay]

Das ist mein rotes Haus. Ich mag mein rotes Haus. Die Tür meines roten Hauses ist blau. Dem Haus fehlen ein paar Ziegel.

nom/acc/gen/dat in that order

[viscid cape]

Die nette Frau sieht gut aus -> The nice lady looks good -> Nom
Ich habe die nette Frau gesehen -> I've seen the nice lady -> Akk
Der Regenschirm der netten Frau ist da -> The nice lady's umbrella is there -> Gen
Ich habe der netten Frau ihren Regenschirm gegeben -> I've given the nice lady her umbrella -> Dat

Bin zu spät

[red pewter]

thank you both very much ❤

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin I made an extremely convoluted sentence for you to translate 😬
"The nice young man that you met yesterday went to the run-down store on the corner with his new friend to buy his favorite white chocolate because they had already eaten it all, but unfortunately it was sold out, so they went home empty-handed"

[ocean robin]

👀

wow wut

[cold vessel]

Woops, was a word missing

[ocean robin]

lel you took my words from my mouth

[pine ginkgo]

Ein Mett jung Mann der du getroffen hast gestern ging zu der laufen-runter Laden auf die Ecke mit sein neu Freund zu kaufen sein favourisiert weiß Schokolade weil sie haben bereits gegessen es alles, aber unglücklich es war verkauft aus, so sie gingen heim leer-gehändet.

[ocean robin]

lmao what

[cold vessel]

🤔

[quasi merlin]

That's true meme-German.

[pine ginkgo]

i know

arrem would be so stolz auf mich

[cold vessel]

I think you guys discussed this a couple of days ago, what preposition should you use for going to the store?

[pine ginkgo]

yes

[quasi merlin]

Luna, why

[pine ginkgo]

i just wanna have a translation

which we can ban flappsy for, when she is worse than that

[ocean robin]

"Der nette junge Mann, der du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu den baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinen neuen Freund seine Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie alle schon gegessen haben, aber leiber wird es ausverkaufen, so sie gingen zu Hause erfolglos." Solet, I write maybe meme German as you did without notcing it.

[pine ginkgo]

lol

[placid heath]

Flapsy, what case is Laden here?

[pine ginkgo]

at least it wasn't worse than mine

[viscid cape]

That translation is... fläpposterous

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

but at least my translations knows it's a meme

:)

[ocean robin]

I thought it was Acc but see, Flops forgot that zu needs dative

[placid heath]

der du gestern getroffen hast needs changes as well :)

[ocean robin]

Where though?

[placid heath]

jemand__ treffen

[ocean robin]

AH.

Jemanden?

[placid heath]

👍🏻

[ocean robin]

lel I absolutely didn't think about that 👀

[pine ginkgo]

J E MA N D UNTERSTRICH UNTERSTRICH

[ocean robin]

WHAT SOLET

[fair iron]

Jemand__ __.

That, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

Ah.

I already said jemanden. :>

So, waito that I correct those 2 mistakes

[pine ginkgo]

casca answered your question

and then you become sassy

😦

[ocean robin]

Ah.

I am sorry. Let's continue, okay? :<

[pine ginkgo]

fix your things first

then we continue :)

[ocean robin]

yus

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinen neuen Freund seine Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie alle schon gegessen haben, aber leiber wird es ausverkaufen, so sie gingen zu Hause erfolglos."

AH

[placid heath]

Flappy, what case is Freund?

[fair iron]

^

[ocean robin]

wait

mit

damn, dative again ;3;

[pine ginkgo]

while it's not really a problem here

but you learned about contractions for some words, especially dative?

[fair iron]

Also: leiber.

[ocean robin]

Nope Solet.

[pine ginkgo]

alright

will talk about it afterwards then

it's not a mistake in this case

but can be in the future

so no biggy

[ocean robin]

And that's maybe a stupid typo I made because I don't know to copy words, Casca.

[pine ginkgo]

well

then fix it

if you know it's a typo

[ocean robin]

will do

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund seine Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie alle schon gegessen haben, aber leider wird es ausverkaufen, so sie gingen zu Hause erfolglos."

[pine ginkgo]

alright next

you learned about "zu infinitiv" lately a lot

[ocean robin]

is the passive voice correcto? 👀

[placid heath]

between Freund and seine there is a word missing :D

[ocean robin]

wooot.

[pine ginkgo]

but do you think

"Ich gehe zu kaufen"

is correct?

or on this case

[ocean robin]

It sounds wierd

[pine ginkgo]

ging zu kaufen

well, you already learnt about how to correct it

see if you remember

[placid heath]

In Ulm, um Ulm, um Ulm herum.

[ocean robin]

Just by deleting the zu I think

[pine ginkgo]

ging kaufen

is correct then?

[ocean robin]

this will have a really long word

[pine ginkgo]

what did arrem tell you

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

about which words work like that yesterday

[ocean robin]

it's modal verbs whic don't need a zu

[pine ginkgo]

yes

is gehen one?

[ocean robin]

nope

[pine ginkgo]

what other kind of sentences do you know

that have a zu in front of an infinitive

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

arrem provided some big explanations a few days ago

[ocean robin]

Ah, things with dazu?

[pine ginkgo]

eh, before that

[ocean robin]

That way the zu isn't "alone"?

Ah, uuuuh

[pine ginkgo]

hint

it had something to do with the word damit

[ocean robin]

mmmh

[pine ginkgo]

@sudden panther 😦

[ocean robin]

Do you want to say that damit = das + mit?

[pine ginkgo]

no

what other words

can you sometimes replace damit with

that uses zu

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

remember the arrem lessons!

poor arrem will be sad

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin In English, can you expand the "to" in "to buy his favorite white chocolate" somehow?

[pine ginkgo]

when you forget all the stuff he teaches you :(

[ocean robin]

imma trying really hard, I want that he is proud of meh

[pine ginkgo]

you definitely need a new clause

[ocean robin]

I think so, Henburas?

Ah.

[pine ginkgo]

since it's neither an auxilary verb

nor a modal verb

but you have two verbs

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin Into what?

[quasi merlin]

Luna

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[ocean robin]

Ah, nevermind, I didn't understand your question first.

So wait the sentence was this:

[pine ginkgo]

ging zu kaufen

mikah

[ocean robin]

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund seine Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie alle schon gegessen haben, aber leider wird es ausverkaufen, so sie gingen zu Hause erfolglos."

There.

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin In English there are two words you can add in front of "to" here where the meaning will stay the same

[ocean robin]

AH.

I need to have he um...zu?

[placid heath]

^

[ocean robin]

In order to. I see now.

so I would say [...] Freund, um seine Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen [...]

[cold vessel]

Remember that the chocolate is white 😉

[ocean robin]

oh yeah 👀

[pine ginkgo]

ah, nice hints henbri

thank you for continuing it

[ocean robin]

wait how can I do now wot

[sudden panther]

Lunch sorry, I'll be available to bully flops in about 20 min.

[ocean robin]

😦

[pine ginkgo]

you can do the correctio now flappsy?

[ocean robin]

Yeah, just thinking about the white chocolate first

I just need to put that weiß in-between

[pine ginkgo]

you can do it

[ocean robin]

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund, um seine Lieblingsweißschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie alle schon gegessen haben, aber leider wird es ausverkaufen, so sie gingen zu Hause erfolglos." But then there's 3 S's! Is that okay?

[pine ginkgo]

since mikah notified me about it, flappsy

[ocean robin]

Ah, okay.

[pine ginkgo]

it would have been possible to just drop the zu

but that would make it somewhat colloquial

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

at least for me

consensus it not out yet 🤔

[placid heath]

sounds strange without the zu

[pine ginkgo]

okay flappsy

another thing

which you can't know

[ocean robin]

Ah.

[pine ginkgo]

"alle" only works in plural

and in this case there's only one chocolate

[ocean robin]

Oh.

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

... exception

"Alles"

[ocean robin]

AH.

We love exceptions.

[pine ginkgo]

you can say it like this

[cold vessel]

Does "weil sie sie schon aufgegessen hatten" work or is that just nonsense?

[pine ginkgo]

yeah it works

[ocean robin]

aufgegessen?

wait wot

[pine ginkgo]

aufessen

is like

= complete/finish eating

[ocean robin]

Ah.

[pine ginkgo]

Ich hab das Brot aufegegessen

I've completely eaten the bread

as in

no bread is left

eh

the bread is gone

[ocean robin]

Oh, good to know Solet.

hahaha

So what do we do with that alle?

[pine ginkgo]

oh

yeah

you can drop it

or you can say something like henbri's

[ocean robin]

Ah, fair enough then

[pine ginkgo]

"weil sie sie schon ganz aufgegessen haben"

the aufessen or the essen kinda already imply that you are done eating

[ocean robin]

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund, um seine Lieblingsweißschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen haben, aber leider wird es ausverkaufen, so sie gingen zu Hause erfolglos."

[cold vessel]

Do you need the ganz when you use aufessen?

[ocean robin]

Wait I forgot the ganz.

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

you don't

but can use it for emphasis

[ocean robin]

Oh, okay.

[quasi merlin]

Btw.

"Weißschokolade" is not a word.

[ocean robin]

but how do you want to do "favorite white chocolate" then

[hot cloak]

weiße Schokolade

[ocean robin]

Damn, and there was me who thought about that

[viscid cape]

She has a point though

How do you say favourite + a big noun phrase

[cold vessel]

That's really awkward in Norwegian 🤔

[viscid cape]

My favourite white bitter chocolate or something

[ocean robin]

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund, um seine Lieblingsweißeschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen haben, aber leider wird es ausverkaufen, so sie gingen zu Hause erfolglos."

And there?

[hot cloak]

who even wrote that

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin I think he meant they're to be sepparated

weiße_schokolade

[ocean robin]

but whaaaat

[pine ginkgo]

she is translating it, nully

[cold vessel]

@hot cloak What, the original sentence? I did

[pine ginkgo]

so she did :D

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

otherwise it's henbri's fault

[hot cloak]

[ocean robin]

so "Lieblings weiße Schokolade"?

that looked pretty into one word lel

[viscid cape]

Doesn't work either

They did indeed

[ocean robin]

but wot

[cold vessel]

I think in Norwegian this would actually need to be rephrased. Let's hope it's easier in German

[ocean robin]

flops thinks as hard as she can

[hot cloak]

weiße Lieblingsschokolade

[cold vessel]

Does that mean the same thing?

[hot cloak]

yeah

[ocean robin]

oh my god

[viscid cape]

That's really odd

[cold vessel]

"favorite white chocolate" and "white favorite chocolate" are different

[viscid cape]

I agree

Weird germans

[hot cloak]

technically yes but we're hoping that others understand it

there's no good alternative to that

[ocean robin]

so let me rephrase that

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund, um seine weiße Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen haben, aber leider wird es ausverkaufen, so sie gingen zu Hause erfolglos."

[viscid cape]

can't you say meine bevorzugte weiße schokolade?

[ocean robin]

wat

[placid heath]

wird es ausverkaufen. Why futur?

[fair iron]

^

[ocean robin]

"futur". Nice one there.

ACTUALLY I TRIED TO DO PASSIVE.

[placid heath]

bevorzugte, Kryptik

But that's not what I'd say

Lieblings-x is more common

[viscid cape]

I see

[ocean robin]

b-but I was really proud of my "passive" here ;3;

[viscid cape]

It's very strange though, there's a lot of scope ambiguity

[ocean robin]

like "finally yus"

and then nope

[hot cloak]

there is but it all comes down to context in the end

[viscid cape]

Humm true

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

[quasi merlin]

Okay, next?

[pine ginkgo]

is ausverkaufen ever used when not in partizip form?

🤔

does the infinitiv ausverkaufen even exist

🤔

[cold vessel]

Can't you say like "I sold out all my wares"?

[placid heath]

Die sind schon fleißig am ausverkaufen

Sounds holzig but kinda works

[sudden panther]

Back.

[placid heath]

wb Arrem

[quasi merlin]

Arremu is here!

[pine ginkgo]

not about it working

[placid heath]

Arremu = Arreµ

[sudden panther]

I'm very very stolz auf Solet's meme German ❤ and very very sad about Flopper's shameful forgetfulness 😢

[pine ginkgo]

but would that actually be used somewhere

🤔

[sudden panther]

Hi Mika!

[quasi merlin]

Whoa! Arrem's 192th Waevoli!

D-do we continue now?

[pine ginkgo]

is flappsy still here? :x

[ocean robin]

YES

[sudden panther]

Yes. @ocean robin STOP SLACKING OFF

[pine ginkgo]

okay, do the passive!

[ocean robin]

BUT I WAS IN #introductions TRYING TO CORRECT SOMEONE

yes passive

but then passive, I fokken up that one and just want to check if it's really werden + past participle, righto.

[quasi merlin]

You want Zustandspassiv.

[ocean robin]

I want what? I just don't know that term Mika. What's that?

[quasi merlin]

You don't want to have a "werden".

[ocean robin]

Ah.

But why?

[quasi merlin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_voice#Stative_and_dynamic_passive

4th paragraph

[ocean robin]

Ahhhh.

I think I understand.

So I just need to put "ist" instead of "wird"?

[cold vessel]

What tense is the original in?

[quasi merlin]

That's step one, Fläppers.

[ocean robin]

Because there's step 2? ;3;

[quasi merlin]

"ausverkaufen" is still the infinitve ...

[ocean robin]

Ausverkauft?

Or did I just create a new word?

[quasi merlin]

ausverkauft exists

[ocean robin]

Then it's righto, so "ist [...] ausverkauft." Okay.

[quasi merlin]

Last clause then

What does "zu Hause" mean?

[ocean robin]

Well, "zu Hase gehen" doesn't mean "to go home"?

[cold vessel]

"zu Hause" is a set phrase, flappy

[quasi merlin]

Hase 🐰

[ocean robin]

lel

that's what I call a typo again

[quasi merlin]

"zu Hause" means "at home"

As in

[ocean robin]

damn, me who thought it was that you were going home

[quasi merlin]

"Ich bin zu Hause."

[cold vessel]

Why did you add the "e" if you didn't know the expression? 🤔

[ocean robin]

I knew it, but had the wrong meaning

[quasi merlin]

You need another preposition there.

[ocean robin]

Bei?

[quasi merlin]

No

[ocean robin]

[quasi merlin]

A preposition that indicates movement

[ocean robin]

Wow, how can't I remember that one?

[sudden panther]

Hint: It's definitely one of those

[ocean robin]

that helps a lot

LOL

[stark drift]

Hi floppy

[ocean robin]

OH MY GOD

[stark drift]

hehehe

[ocean robin]

HOW COME THAT YOU WANT TO LEARN GERMAN NOW

[stark drift]

I have been learning German for a long time but I took a long pause

😃

[ocean robin]

Then come here, that's the #flappy_translation_game

[cold vessel]

Can we please finish this sentence first 😦

[ocean robin]

yes yes

OH

It's nach.

[sudden panther]

Really?

[ocean robin]

YES IT IS

[sudden panther]

No, it's über.

[ocean robin]

DON'T PLAY WITH SELF-ESTEEM AGAIN

[celest robin]

Ich gehe über Hause

[ocean robin]

meming Arrem is meming

[sudden panther]

Is Laurenz memeing as well? 🤔

[quasi merlin]

Ich bin durch Hause.

[cold vessel]

Ich gehe unter (dein) Haus

[ocean robin]

You are all memeing.

unter Haus lel wot

[quasi merlin]

Give us the sentence, Flüppsalaflopperdoodle.

[sudden panther]

Brave words for an A Level speaker. 😛

[ocean robin]

Also Mika you won the prize of the longuest nickname ever made.

[fair iron]

Flappygolucky.

[sudden panther]

Cool, what does he get?

[fair iron]

Flopperstilskin.

[ocean robin]

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund, um seine weiße Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen haben, aber leider ist es ausverkauft, so sie gingen nach Hause erfolglos."

wooot

[quasi merlin]

Did you translate "so" with "so"?

[ocean robin]

yes

[fair iron]

Oh boy.

[quasi merlin]

Can you use another word containing a "so"?

[ocean robin]

For the english "so"?

[hot cloak]

also was meinst du denn damit, Mika :^)

[ocean robin]

#howtoconfuseppl

[fair iron]

👀

[ocean robin]

damit, eyyy 0x1 spoiling 👀

[quasi merlin]

Also bitte, 0x1, keine versteckten Hinweise

[hot cloak]

Also das tut mir echt leid

[quasi merlin]

Also mir nicht

[hot cloak]

❤

[quasi merlin]

Ist also alles in Ordnung. 😛

[ocean robin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hot cloak]

Also ich denke schon

[fair iron]

Na also.

Geht doch.

[stark drift]

Guten tag everyone, Ich bin Qadmus und Ich spreche a bit of DEUTSCH JAjaja. bitte

[hot cloak]

Hallo

[ocean robin]

Wow plox.

[quasi merlin]

Hallo.

[ocean robin]

ANYWAY SENTENCE.

[quasi merlin]

Also Fläppers, der Satz

Go.

[ocean robin]

yus but which "so" then

.w.

[sudden panther]

English so != German so

[stark drift]

test

[fair iron]

Test?

[ocean robin]

Test.

[hot cloak]

1 2 3

[ocean robin]

Also Casca put yourself online. 😛

[hot cloak]

✅ Test erfolgreich

[ocean robin]

🎉

[cold vessel]

Whenever I'm in voice chat all I hear from you natives is"also" 👀

[ocean robin]

also then

[cold vessel]

What makes you think that?

[ocean robin]

[stark drift]

What does the "trusted" tag means ? 🤔

[ocean robin]

my instinct

Trusted are mods.

Mods are admins.

[fair iron]

^^

[ocean robin]

And they are all awesome. Just don't make them mad or the power of the banhammer shall punish you. 👀

[sudden panther]

And you make them mad by slacking off.

[fair iron]

I don't get mad, but the others might. ^^

[quasi merlin]

Fläppers is pulling a flappy again.

[ocean robin]

okay so sentences

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund, um seine weiße Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen haben, aber leider ist es ausverkauft, also sie gingen nach Hause erfolglos."

[fair iron]

Getting closer!

[ocean robin]

I just want to say that there were about 10 mistakes into dat sentence lel

[fair iron]

[...], also sie gingen nach Hause erfolglos. needs fixing.

[quasi merlin]

3 mistakes left

[ocean robin]

Also is position 1?

[fair iron]

What happens after a comma, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

Verb righto away?

[fair iron]

Yep.

Well, the also can stay.

But verb and pronoun swap.

[ocean robin]

Ah.

[sudden panther]

What happens after a comma, Flappy?
We put a space. What do I win?

[ocean robin]

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund, um seine weiße Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen haben, aber leider ist es ausverkauft, also gingen sie nach Hause erfolglos."

LOL

[quasi merlin]

2 mistakes left

[fair iron]

^

[ocean robin]

wooooo

where are they though

[proven eagle]

german very long words ❗

[sudden panther]

You should be able to find both on your own. 😛

[ocean robin]

[quasi merlin]

Last and second-to-last clause

[sudden panther]

Mika explained one yesterday or whenever.

[ocean robin]

[quasi merlin]

Adverbs, Fläppers.

Time ... etc.

[ocean robin]

AH.

So I need to change places.

So the mistakes are in: "[...]aber leider ist es ausverkauft, also gingen sie nach Hause erfolglos."

[quasi merlin]

Yep

[ocean robin]

Aber is position 0?

[quasi merlin]

Yep.

Word order is not a problem in the second to last clause.

[ocean robin]

Ah.

It could be in the last one.

[quasi merlin]

Do it.

Do the thing you want to do.

It's probably right.

I think

[fair iron]

^

[ocean robin]

I have only one thought and it's swapping "nach Hause" and "erfolglos". What could it be otherwise.

[quasi merlin]

Are you speaking to yourself again?

[ocean robin]

Yes and no.

[quasi merlin]

Do it.

Sentence, please.

[ocean robin]

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund, um seine weiße Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen haben, aber leider ist es ausverkauft, also gingen sie erfolglos nach Hause."

[quasi merlin]

Swapping "nach Hause" and "erfolglos" is correct, can you explain why?

[ocean robin]

mmmmh

Nope, unfortunatly. Or maybe I will remember.

[cold vessel]

You don't remember the crazy mnemonic? 😮

[ocean robin]

Mnemonic?

[quasi merlin]

TeKa...

TeKaMo...

TeKaMoLo

[ocean robin]

OH YEAH.

[cold vessel]

Maybe mnemonic is the wrong word

[sudden panther]

Tee Käfer Mond Loch? 🤔

[quasi merlin]

Yes.

Jeder kennt das Teekäfermondloch.

Damals

Als der Teekäfer

Ein Loch in den Mond gefressen hat

@ocean robin second to last clause, what does the "es" refer to?

[ocean robin]

The chocolate?

[quasi merlin]

Right.

But "es" is wrong.

[ocean robin]

don't tell me it's "sie"

[cold vessel]

You're supposed to tell us

[ocean robin]

Seeing that it's "die Schokolade" and that's it's Accusative, it's sie

[quasi merlin]

Your final answer?

[hot cloak]

Bitte einloggen, Herr Jauch

[ocean robin]

I am still with my sie.

[quasi merlin]

Okay.

Full sentence.

[ocean robin]

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ging zu dem baufälligen Laden an der Ecke mit seinem neuen Freund, um seine weiße Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen haben, aber leider ist sie ausverkauft, also gingen sie erfolglos nach Hause."

[cold vessel]

FINALLY

[ocean robin]

FINALLY

AHHHH

[cold vessel]

2 hours, actually not that bad 🤔

[ocean robin]

I just want to see how many errors to see if I have improved

[cold vessel]

Here's my try:

The nice young that you met yesterday went to the run-down store on the corner with his new friend to buy his favorite white chocolate because they had already eaten it all, but unfortunately it was sold out, so they went home empty-handed

Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, hat mit seinem neuen Freund zum verfallenen Laden an der Ecke gegangen, um seine weiße Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen hatten, aber leider war sie ausverkauft, also haben sie mit leeren Händen nach Hause gegangen.

[ocean robin]

"leeren Händen"

Wasn't that in Solet's sentence as well?

[cold vessel]

dict.cc says it means empty-handed and it looked similar-ish to how you'd say it in Norwegian 🤷

[quasi merlin]

"Der nette junge Mann, den du gestern getroffen hast, ist mit seinem neuen Freund zum heruntergekommenen Laden an der Ecke gegangen, um seine weiße Lieblingsschokolade zu kaufen, weil sie sie schon aufgegessen hatten, aber leider war sie ausverkauft, also sind sie mit leeren Händen nach Hause gegangen."

[ocean robin]

heruntergekommen what

[cold vessel]

Aaaaaaarghhh, I always forget that some verbs use sein for the past 🤦

[quasi merlin]

@ocean robin https://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/heruntergekommen.html

[ocean robin]

I know right

Oh okay.

[cold vessel]

Is "verfallen" like literally falling apart?

[ocean robin]

Okay so I have 45 mins left. Let's try to translate another sentence.

[sudden panther]

The one you flopped out of yesterday.
"The rich lady, whose fat husband I saw yesterday, bought me the pretty flowers that I told you about."

[cold vessel]

Better hurry

[ocean robin]

"whose" 👀

[sudden panther]

It's a relative pronoun just like any other.

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/der#Relativpronomen.2C_m.2C_f

Have a look at the table.

[cold vessel]

Oh come on, why's the dative plural different from the definite article 😠

[sudden panther]

Genitive beats that.

[cold vessel]

But for the genitive all of them are different, which is easier to remember

[ocean robin]

Die reiche Dame, deren gestern dicke Mann ich sah, hat mich die schöne Blumen gekauft, die ich dich berichtete. Not sure about the "mich" if it's whether dative or accusative. And THAT GENITIVE AGAIN. HALP.

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin If you aren't sure whether it's mich or mir, ask the usual questions

[sudden panther]

Okay, that's nice.

Since the main point of the sentence is learning adjective declensions, why don't you go and check how the weak declension works again. 😛

[ocean robin]

Mann looks Accusative.

[sudden panther]

hat mich die schöne Blumen gekauft
Sorry, that part. We'll deal with the Mann later.

[cold vessel]

Can I PM you, arrem?

[ocean robin]

Ah, okay.

[sudden panther]

Sure.

[cold vessel]

Spoiler tags would be pretty useful 🤔

[sudden panther]

She'd just open them anyway.

[ocean robin]

[sudden panther]

What we need is encryption.

[quasi merlin]

@sudden panther 49 20 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 46 6c e4 70 70 65 72 73 20 64 6f 65 73 6e 27 74 20 6b 6e 6f 77 20 68 65 78 2e

[sudden panther]

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[ocean robin]

affdfdh die schönen Blumen.

[grand seal]

[quasi merlin]

Less drawerooni, more translaterooni.

[sudden panther]

^

[grand seal]

To think that fox could be a fully translated sentence

[sudden panther]

Correcto. Schönen. So, I'm not a native speaker and would really like you to explain what "whose yesterday fat husband i saw" means. 😛

[ocean robin]

Huh wat.

[grand seal]

He means it's wrong :D

[quasi merlin]

deren gestern dicke Mann ich sah
whose yesterday fat husband i saw

[ocean robin]

Word order?

[grand seal]

[viscid cape]

Ello

[sudden panther]

Word order indeed.

[grand seal]

We're torturehelping Flappy as usual

How's Krypt?

[ocean robin]

"deren dicke Mann ich gestern sah"?

[grand seal]

That's the order I would've used. But I'm just as likely to be wrong.

But I haven't really looked into the genitive conjunctions much yet.

[ocean robin]

I need to go. Will get back in a hour or so.

[sudden panther]

Dammit Floppo.

[viscid cape]

@grand seal I'm fine as well, thanks for asking

@ocean robin You're such a ditcher, Christ

[ocean robin]

But I really must go. :<

[grand seal]

Nah

You need to stay

Server is so dull without the Flüps

[sudden panther]

Imagine how dull it'll be when we ban her for slacking off.

[viscid cape]

We should make a fake account of another french girl and give attention solely to her, ignoring thereby all of flappy's flapprocious slacking off.

That'd teach her a lesson 🤔

[sudden panther]

Brilliant.

We'll call her Sreppälf.

[viscid cape]

Yass she'll never suspect 😏

It'll be her Doppelgänger

🤔

[fair iron]

The avatar should be the same, just mirrored.

[viscid cape]

Exactly, a fox leaning her head to the right

[viscid cape]

A bold sign of

@_@

So superior to the original

@ocean robin We don't need you anymore bye.

[ocean robin]

;_;

When I finally return it's "k now we don't need ya"

[sudden panther]

We don't. Unless you fix your sentence. 😛

[nocturne spruce]

Flappy, why aren't you fixing the sentence?????????

[sudden panther]

Because she's a meme.

[mild cosmos]

Ich habe die B1 Prüfung bestanden!

[fair iron]

😮

Glückwunsch!

[twilit garden]

🎉

[fair iron]

Now go get yourself that purple name. ^^

[twilit garden]

Glückwunsch ^^

[ocean robin]

I am sorry, I just got rekt by my mother once again. Now I can continue.

So we were at the word order.

[nocturne spruce]

Glückwunsch @mild cosmos

[ocean robin]

Die reiche Dame, deren gestern dicke Mann ich sah, hat mich die schönen Blumen gekauft, die ich dich berichtete. There.

lol what

[nocturne spruce]

Ok, what do you think is wrong with the sentence

[sudden panther]

"whose yesterday fat husband I saw"

[ocean robin]

word order of the second close halp halp

[nocturne spruce]

I was gonna ping Arrem to come

but he's always watching

[ocean robin]

👀

[sudden panther]

👀

I'd consider changing it, Flops. 😛

[ocean robin]

So I had a suggestion earlier.

"deren dicke Mann ich gestern sah"

[nocturne spruce]

The way you wrote the second sentence, makes it seem like "gestern" is part of his description

[ocean robin]

[cold vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6N3o4TDYsI

[nocturne spruce]

Talking about it in the OG translation

This one is better

[ocean robin]

yay

But it's not perfect, is it?

[nocturne spruce]

It isn't

[sudden panther]

Yes, that's a better placement of the gestern.

Full sentence.

[ocean robin]

Die reiche Dame, deren dicke Mann ich gestern sah, hat mich die schönen Blumen gekauft, die ich dich berichtete.

[sudden panther]

Correct!

[ocean robin]

Whooopsie umlaut.

[sudden panther]

Dammit Flops, it's not fun when you're not celebrating. 😦