general-2

[pine ginkgo]

i want to see flappsy suffer

and succeed before the end of the century

[ocean robin]

My tears are Solet's drink

[lavish saddle]

As he sat in a café, he thought to himself that he would like to become an engineer

:P try something like that

[ocean robin]

owo

Als er in einem Cafe saß, er dachte zu selbst, (let's stop here and let me notice about that that, it can't be either dass or das, nor der because it doesn't refer to him so wat it is wot)

[quasi merlin]

Why can't it be "dass"?

[ocean robin]

Because there isn't a verb before it?

[quasi merlin]

There isn't?

[ocean robin]

The last word is "selbst".

[opal sequoia]

It's not about the actual word before it. It's about what the "that" is related to. It's a "that" that is about his thinking.

[ocean robin]

Ah.

Still I don't know.

[sudden panther]

Ich sagte ihm, ____ Flops 1 Meme ist.
Fill in the blank. 😛

[ocean robin]

*dass.

[sudden panther]

But the last word isn't a verb, ow can it b a dass?????!?!?!?

[ocean robin]

woooooo

[grand seal]

?!?!???!??!!

[quasi merlin]

Tipp: Das letzte Wort muss kein Verb sein.

[ocean robin]

ow can it bi a dass?!?!?!??

[sudden panther]

Yes. Althought written in a memeful style, that's an actual question. 😛

[opal sequoia]

Yes.

[ocean robin]

I figured that out.

[quasi merlin]

Answer it.

[ocean robin]

I think it's because we are refering to the action of like the exemple, saying that blah blah blah.

This explanation isn't clear at all.

Noice Flops.

Also, 22 mins by now.

[sudden panther]

Yes. That's the correct explanation. So how's that different from the sentence above?

Also can someone fetch me the original? 🤔

[ocean robin]

So if the thinks about his future and thinks is emphasized

*dass.

As he sat in a café, he thought to himself that he would like to become an engineer

[sudden panther]

Yes.

[toxic urchin]

worst decision ever

[shy bobcat]

“As he crossed toward the pharmacy at the corner he involuntarily turned his head because of a burst of light that had ricocheted from his temple, and saw, with that quick smile with which we greet a rainbow or a rose, a blindingly white parallelogram of sky being unloaded from the van—a dresser with mirrors across which, as across a cinema screen, passed a flawlessly clear reflection of boughs sliding and swaying not arboreally, but with a human vacillation, produced by the nature of those who were carrying this sky, these boughs, this gliding façade.”

Als er zur Apotheke an der Ecke überschritt, drehte er unfreiwillig den Kopf wegen eines Lichtstoßes, das von seiner Schläfe abgeprallt hat, und sah, mit diesem raschen Lächeln, mit dem man einen Regenbogen oder eine Rose begrüßt, dass ein verblindend weißes Parallelogramm Himmel aus dem Lieferwagen abgeladen wurde—eine Kommode mit Spiegeln, in denen, als wäre in einem Kinobildschirm, ein makellos klares Spiegelbild von Geäst vorbeiging, das nicht bäumlich gleitete und schwang, sondern mit menschlicher Schwankung, die von denen erzeugt war, die diesen Himmel, diese Äste, diese gleitende Fassade trugen.

that’s my attempt

[sudden panther]

So what we have now is "As he sat in a cafe, he thought to self"

Also wot Arrem could use right now is a noice shower. You better finish the sentence by the time I'm back.

[shy bobcat]

any natives willing to check my german 😉

Arrem
native

[sudden panther]

Native Memelandian.

[quasi merlin]

busy rn

[shy bobcat]

😦

[ocean robin]

Als er in einem Cafe saß, er dachte zu selbst, dass er einen Techniker zu werden möchte." Wow you stole the "Ingenieur" word from French as well. Wow. Magnificent.

[pine ginkgo]

teheheheheh

[shy bobcat]

luna

hallo

[ocean robin]

Solet giggling isn't a good sign.

Or it can as "look she got it right finally"

:>

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo pls check my translation of the long sentence 😉

[grand seal]

I honestly think you'd be more weirded out if he didn't giggle, actually.

[pine ginkgo]

i dont see anything

[shy bobcat]

yeah I had to look some words up but my grammar is ok?

[sudden panther]

He's blind!

[ocean robin]

That's true Jawzie.

[shy bobcat]

right

[ocean robin]

I will sleep in a few mins.

[shy bobcat]

zu selbst

🤔

[ocean robin]

yes

[shy bobcat]

I think you a word

[ocean robin]

"Note to self"

[grand seal]

you an entire word.

[ocean robin]

I think you a word. - Arizona 2017.

[pine ginkgo]

i give it 5/10

but for a learner i guess 7/10

[ocean robin]

Wow.

[grand seal]

High praise from him.

[shy bobcat]

what was 5/10 😅

[pine ginkgo]

your translation

maybe 4/10

[shy bobcat]

ik

but Educate Me™

[pine ginkgo]

it's too long

try arrem

[cold vessel]

Are "Techniker" and "Ingenieur" interchangeable? They're pretty different in English

[ocean robin]

Wow you can see that Solet is one strict teacher.

[pine ginkgo]

sometimes, hebruas

but not really

[ocean robin]

I must sleep now guys.

[quasi merlin]

Good night, Fläppers.

[ocean robin]

but before solet, how would you rate mine :>

[shy bobcat]

wow, leaving halfway thru a sentence typisch flops 😒

[ocean robin]

After all this suffering and tears.

[shy bobcat]

[ocean robin]

But I have only 6 hours of sleep by now D:

[pine ginkgo]

4/10 or something

[quasi merlin]

6 hours of sleep is not enough.

[pine ginkgo]

for a learner about 6/10

[ocean robin]

Woooo.

Yesterday I got 8 and I was so happy.

My phone is really weird with me wow.

[quasi merlin]

8 hours of sleep is good.

[ocean robin]

See you tommorow!

[opal sequoia]

zur Apotheke an der Ecke? Ist dieser Teil richtig?

[ocean robin]

I'll try to save dat sentence and we continue tommorow

[lavish saddle]

sleep well

[pine ginkgo]

yeah

depending on how you wanna phrase the sentence

if you do it germanish

you would rephrase the first part

[shy bobcat]

in die Apotheke?

[pine ginkgo]

no

that is wrong

[shy bobcat]

oh

😦

@pine ginkgo so what should it be

I know "figure it out yourself" but I'm completely unsure

[pine ginkgo]

Als er zur Apotheke an der Ecke die Straße überquerte, [...]

personally i would say it like this

"Als er die Straße überquerte, um zur Apotheke an der Ecke zu kommen."

[shy bobcat]

is that just stylistic or does the other phrasing look obviously foreign

[pine ginkgo]

which?

[shy bobcat]

Als er zur Apotheke an der Ecke die Straße überquerte, [...] you said you'd say it the other way personally

but is that one also ok

[pine ginkgo]

yep

i don't like adding too many objects to a sentence

[shy bobcat]

😄

I posted the translation to another server and got a few corrections there too lel

anyway danke

[opal sequoia]

Good work though.

[shy bobcat]

tbh I had to google a lot of words 😅

[pine ginkgo]

i noticed :)

but you shouldn't need to translate sentences like that anyway

[grand seal]

Yeah, it was a stupid sentence.

[shy bobcat]

how did you notice, where are the weird words lel

the words I had to google were

Schläfe, Lieferwagen, abladen, Kommode, makellos, Geäst und Äste, Schwankung (to be fair I didn't even know what vacillation was supposed to mean in english 😅), etc.

[grand seal]

You shouldn't even have to know some of those.

Just use 'indecision' 😒

[pine ginkgo]

yeah

because of geäst and bäumlich

[opal sequoia]

I want to know also this part "und sah ... begrüßt"

[shy bobcat]

well I actually made bäumlich up in my head lel

[pine ginkgo]

lel

like verblindend

then i guess

[opal sequoia]

Can't quote on phone.

[shy bobcat]

I made that one up too

I put a list of the words I googled sol

[pine ginkgo]

"i looked up a lot of words"

"and made up all the others"

nice

[shy bobcat]

meh, I thought I knew the word, guess I knew wrong words

whatever, "blendend" 😄

[pine ginkgo]

pretty sure we all looked up vaciliation

[shy bobcat]

lel

[pine ginkgo]

or however it is spelled

[shy bobcat]

tbh I spelled it wrong too putting it into dictcc

lel

[pine ginkgo]

me too

[grand seal]

How dare you assume such a thing

I mean, I did

but how dare you assume it

[whole rapids]

I knew that word

iamverysmart

[shy bobcat]

lol

[opal sequoia]

At the very least, does it need a comma or no comma?

[grand seal]

I had heard it before, just wasn't sure of the definition.

[pine ginkgo]

what?

[whole rapids]

I looked it up to make sure I knew that word and it turns out I didn't know that word

[shy bobcat]

I shouldn't ever have to translate stuff like that, but still, it's good practice 😄

[pine ginkgo]

which comma?

:o

[whole rapids]

where was that text from anyway?

[opal sequoia]

In the middle of the part I just mentioned.

[pine ginkgo]

oh

no

no komma

though it helps

[grand seal]

It's a quote from a classic novel.

[pine ginkgo]

i would put in - instead

[whole rapids]

which novel?

[opal sequoia]

Okay, makes sense.

[pine ginkgo]

not sure if there's a rule that allows a comma

if otherwise the sentence would be really hard to parse

🤔

[whole rapids]

That novel seems good for refreshing my very-smart-advanced English vocabulary

[grand seal]

'The Gift' by Vladimir Nabokov

[opal sequoia]

Because it looks weird to me to have the mit-clause twice like that.

So I just wondered about such a construction.

[whole rapids]

okay thanks

[pine ginkgo]

you would put a comma before the 2nd mit though

mhh

or would you

let me read it agian

ah

actually no

[hot cloak]

which sentence?

[pine ginkgo]

🤔

or maybe 🤔

i still didn't finish parsing the sentence

so i can't really tell

[opal sequoia]

Sorry for not being able to quote directly. 😶

[pine ginkgo]

i don't really wanna read further

so i don't know the context of the 2nd mit

:D

[opal sequoia]

Ja.

[shy bobcat]

so revised edition:

Als er die Straße überquerte, um zur Apotheke an der Ecke zu kommen, drehte er unwillkürlich den Kopf wegen eines Lichtstoßes, der von seiner Schläfe abgeprallt hat, und sah mit diesem raschen Lächeln, mit dem man einen Regenbogen oder eine Rose begrüßt, dass ein blendend weißes Parallelogramm Himmel vom Lieferwagen abgeladen wurde—eine Kommode mit Spiegeln, in denen, als wäre in einer Kinoleinwand, ein makellos klares Spiegelbild von Ästen vorbeiging, das nicht baumartig gleitete und schwang, sondern mit menschlicher Schwankung, die von denen erzeugt war, die diesen Himmel, diese Äste, diese gleitende Fassade trugen.

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

it would sound nicer

if you swap kopf und lichtstoß

also Lichtstoß lel

[shy bobcat]

as I said, got a few corrections from another source, so I fixed a few bad word choices that u didn't point out 😄

[pine ginkgo]

i mean

i would have to read the sentence

so i can explain the mistakes to you

[shy bobcat]

true

[whole rapids]

that sentence is so long

[pine ginkgo]

but i ain't gonna read it

[shy bobcat]

that wasn't anything against u 😄 just saying I changed a couple of words

[pine ginkgo]

also

[grand seal]

I found it looking for overlong sentences

[shy bobcat]

lel

[pine ginkgo]

wrong perfect verb

[opal sequoia]

Luna did a translation of it too, right?

[shy bobcat]

😶

[pine ginkgo]

nope

of course not

oh

[opal sequoia]

Oh.

[pine ginkgo]

well

yes i did

actually

but it's not very comparable

[hot cloak]

that sentence is hecked to bits lol

[pine ginkgo]

yesss

have fun nully

[hot cloak]

I hope thats not an extract from a book

[opal sequoia]

Aha.

[hot cloak]

since it's full of mistakes

[shy bobcat]

the original or my german?

oh

[pine ginkgo]

it's his translation, nully

[hot cloak]

oh my bad

sorry

aaaaa

[pine ginkgo]

WOW

[hot cloak]

Im so sorry

lmao

[pine ginkgo]

ADMINS INSULTING USERS

[whole rapids]

brutal

[pine ginkgo]

MORE NEWS SOON

[grand seal]

Brütal

[whole rapids]

no shame

[hot cloak]

:^(

[whole rapids]

no remorse

[shy bobcat]

how "full of mistakes" are we talking 😦

[opal sequoia]

Brilliant.

[pine ginkgo]

i told you 4/10 translation

[shy bobcat]

lel yeah

[pine ginkgo]

or something around it

[hot cloak]

3 germans at oktoberfest full

[opal sequoia]

Very full for a native novelist. What that equates to in learner terms is much different.

[pine ginkgo]

but it's not really something for your level to translate that

[whole rapids]

seems like a difficult thing to translate in general

[opal sequoia]

Yes, Pferd.

[whole rapids]

is there a German translation of the book?

[grand seal]

Thus why I posted it originally as a joke

Which I will no longer do

[whole rapids]

your joke has gone too far

[grand seal]

because it turns into this

[opal sequoia]

There's a translation by Luna.

[pine ginkgo]

haha base

[whole rapids]

I mean

[pine ginkgo]

:D

[whole rapids]

the official book

[shy bobcat]

i'll just go now tbh, my german is back to shit level :^(

[pine ginkgo]

wait, base

[hot cloak]

Im sorry :^(

[pine ginkgo]

you haven't seen my version yet, right?

🤔

[grand seal]

Never speaking German on this server again

Mods so unsupportive

[pine ginkgo]

when did you even speak german the last time

[opal sequoia]

I glanced at it but didn't really read it.

[pine ginkgo]

was it when you pretended to be B

[grand seal]

I don't around you because you're mean. 😄

[whole rapids]

Luna is not mean

he is just tough love

[shy bobcat]

😄

[pine ginkgo]

i just don't believe anyone under C

[grand seal]

This name was never purple.

[pine ginkgo]

to actually be able to speak german

[shy bobcat]

wo rip

someday somewhere somehow my german will be decent 😦

[toxic urchin]

Still waiting for my native role

[opal sequoia]

Tragic.

[pine ginkgo]

i mean

you will probably do it

[whole rapids]

yeah, I am in B2 course and that means I am nearly intermediate but I don't believe it

[pine ginkgo]

i also don't believe most C people to be fluent in german

except riot

🤔

[shy bobcat]

but how I thought I was already b-something and yet my german is "full of mistakes"

[pine ginkgo]

i mean

that's kinda the definition of B

or B and lower

[whole rapids]

B is like you know the grammar

[opal sequoia]

Translate this sentence someone. "Being-towards-death is the anticipation of a potentiality-for-Being of that entity whose kind of Being is anticipation itself."

[whole rapids]

but you don't know it intuitively

[grand seal]

I feel like everything I say in German is shit. I think you're fine.

[whole rapids]

nor the fitting words

all words are the same to me

[pine ginkgo]

what the hell does being-towards-death even mean

[whole rapids]

until I use them and Germans say "what the fuck is that fucking word doing there"

[shy bobcat]

😦

[whole rapids]

it's okay Arizona

you can speak vong sprache

[shy bobcat]

say @pine ginkgo can you repost your translation down here

[pine ginkgo]

lol

hahaha

[grand seal]

His was too good

[pine ginkgo]

i don't think that will help any one of us

[grand seal]

You won't understand it

The German is too advanced

[pine ginkgo]

you can search for it sure

have fun

[shy bobcat]

@grand seal I read german far better than I speak it

[grand seal]

Als er krossierte zu die Pharmazie an dem Ecke er unfreiweilig drehte sein Kopf weil wegen ein strom von Licht das rikochierte von seinem Tempel, und sah, mit das schnellem Lächeln mit das wir grüßen einen Regenbogen oder rose, eine blendendes weißes Parallelogram von Himmel ladete ab von dem Van - ein Dressierter mit Spiegeln akreuz dem, als akreuz einem Kino Schirm, passierte eine schwachtelenlose klare Reflektion von Geäst schlitten und schwanken nicht baumhaft, aber mit ein mensch Unentschlossenheit, produziert von die Natur von diesen wer waren tragen dies Himmel, diese Geäste, diese gleitend Fakade.

Good luck.

[pine ginkgo]

that's the case for most poeple

[shy bobcat]

oh

oh that one

lel

[grand seal]

Told you

It's too advanced

[shy bobcat]

I thought sol did an actual translation

[grand seal]

It's poetry

[shy bobcat]

that I had missed

[pine ginkgo]

i mean

i would still need to read the sentence

to do a proper translation

and i don't want to think about the clauses of the 2nd part of the sentence

i had problems not accidentally write words correctly

[opal sequoia]

Sein-zum-Tode.

[pine ginkgo]

yeahj

that still doesnt make sense, base

[shy bobcat]

rip

[opal sequoia]

😔

[pine ginkgo]

it also heavily depends on what kind of being it is

being as a creature

[opal sequoia]

Dasein.

[pine ginkgo]

or being as the progressive form of be

[shy bobcat]

I honestly have no idea what base's thing is supposed to mean either

[pine ginkgo]

also

[shy bobcat]

lel

[pine ginkgo]

it heavily depends what it means to be towards death

like what does it even mean

has it been defined somewhere before?

[opal sequoia]

Yes. It's philosophical made up things.

[pine ginkgo]

even if it is made up

there has to be a definition somewhere

[opal sequoia]

Yes.

[grand seal]

Isn't everything a philosophical made up thing?

😮

[opal sequoia]

Being towards death is like how you are towards the possibility of your death.

[sudden panther]

What's new pussycats?

[opal sequoia]

An authentic being towards death is when someone realizes and faces the inevitability of their death and is freed by the associated existential anxiety.

Or something.

[grand seal]

Ari was murdered while you were gone.

Straight up brutal murder.

[opal sequoia]

Oh yeah.

[sudden panther]

Oh no philosophy.

[opal sequoia]

That was a being toward death if I ever saw one.

[shy bobcat]

I was murdered by your fellow mod @sudden panther I am Ari's ghost

[sudden panther]

Pls no philosophy. Numbers. Bits. XOR gates, chips, instructions, programming, browsers, internet, memes. Anything but philosophy. 😱

[opal sequoia]

It's not just philosophy. It's existential philosophy. 😏

Even more fun.

[sudden panther]

Who killed Ari? 🙁

[shy bobcat]

0x1, he killed me by roasting my german

[sudden panther]

Aaaaaa make it stop. 😭

Oh. Yeah he does that.

[opal sequoia]

Scroll up, Kareem. It's worth it.

[sudden panther]

In which channel.

[opal sequoia]

This'n.

[sudden panther]

Oh holy memes lol. 😂😂😂

[grand seal]

It's FULL of mistakes

[shy bobcat]

meanwhile another (native) guy I asked found only like 3 mistakes

[grand seal]

He wasn't being as brütal

[opal sequoia]

Should've told him it was from a novel you were reading. 😏

[shy bobcat]

lel

[sudden panther]

Can confirm. 0x1's hobby is making natives feel bad. He thought it was from a book and just wanted to bully the author.

[shy bobcat]

lel yeah

well technically it was from a book just passed through a layer of shit german

[viscid cape]

Das?

[shy bobcat]

ja

[viscid cape]

Ops

[pseudo trail]

psst

Can I have a sentence to sooth my soul?

Fine I'll give myself one

the horse died tragically in a kayaking accident

Tragisch ist das Pferd in einem Kajakunfall gestorben

well done Nikoli

aww thanks 😊

[opal sequoia]

I will give you a sentence, Nikoli. What kind of stuff are you most wanting to practice?

[shy bobcat]

moin 😄

[pseudo trail]

Adjectives are what I have trouble with

so many different ways to put letters at the end of 'em

[opal sequoia]

Hehe.

Okay, let's do something with that.

The big grey dog that lives in the old white house is chasing a fast rabbit which has black ears.

If you haven't learned how to write that kind of sentence structure, you are welcome to just translate the parts you know. I'm not sure what grammar you know so far.

[hot cloak]

basementality performing cruel and unusual punishment I see

[opal sequoia]

😏

[shy bobcat]

😏

[hot cloak]

guys i have a B1-B2 test in 5 days

😬

[shy bobcat]

ich wünsch dir Glück 😄

[opal sequoia]

Oooh.

[shy bobcat]

Ich weiß nicht warum aber ich mag dieses 😏-Gesicht so sehr lol

😏

[hot cloak]

😏 😏 😏 😏 😏 😏 😏

[opal sequoia]

Now translate that into German, Mitch.

[hot cloak]

trans what?

that giant sentence?

[pseudo trail]

Der große graue Hund, der in den alten weißen Haus, jagt ein schnelles Karnickel, das schwarze Ohren hat

[opal sequoia]

Nuh, your last message. 😏

[hot cloak]

okay

:grinsen: :grinsen: :grinsen: :grinsen: :grinsen: :grinsen:

habe ich es richtig gemacht? 😏

[shy bobcat]

lel

😏

@pseudo trail I think you a word

[opal sequoia]

You missed one...

[pseudo trail]

oh

[hot cloak]

also TeKaMoLo

but kind of irrelevant

[pseudo trail]

wat?

[opal sequoia]

Dw about it, Nikoli.

[shy bobcat]

@pseudo trail besides that most of your grammar is good, except >in den

[opal sequoia]

It's B level stuff.

[shy bobcat]

it needs a dative instead of an accusative 😄

[hot cloak]

more like C level tbh

[pseudo trail]

I see

[opal sequoia]

Can you write it again with the fixes, Nikoli?

[shy bobcat]

what’s “B level stuff”

[opal sequoia]

TeKaMoLo.

[shy bobcat]

I’ve never heard of tekamolo 🤔

[ancient spade]

Me neither lol

[pseudo trail]

Der große graue Hund, der im alten weißen Haus wohnt, jagt ein schnelles Karnickel, das schwarze Ohren hat

[opal sequoia]

You know it, even if you don't know the name.

[ancient spade]

Base and his acronyms

[opal sequoia]

It's like putting time phrases first, for example.

It's not mine. It's the name learners use for it.

[shy bobcat]

time-manner-place, then?

is that what you mean?

[hot cloak]

@shy bobcat http://prntscr.com/gnysrj

[shy bobcat]

yeah, I just learned “time manner place” lel, never heard tekamolo in my life

[pseudo trail]

yeah I learned TMP

[shy bobcat]

anyway @pseudo trail looks good 😄

[pseudo trail]

oh yay

did I get the adjectives right?

[opal sequoia]

You will see it in a lot of learning resources for B level.

[shy bobcat]

yes 😄

[pseudo trail]

WOOO

[shy bobcat]

Der große graue Hund, der im alten weißen Haus wohnt, jagt ein schnelles Kaninchen, das schwarze Ohren hat.

that’s my version, which is only different by the word we used for ”rabbit” lel

so @pseudo trail gute Arbeit 😄

[opal sequoia]

Gute Arbeit?

Sagt man das?

[placid heath]

Kann man sagen, das ist wie Gut gemacht

[opal sequoia]

So you can say either to mean the same?

[placid heath]

I'm not sure about replacing them for each other grammatically (am grammar noob) but the meaning is basically the same

[opal sequoia]

Btw good work, Nikoli. I think your adjective knowledge is pretty good!

Okay, thanks, that's good to know.

[cold vessel]

I'm bored. Anyone got a sentence to translate?

[placid heath]

Ich habe Langeweile. Hat jemand einen Satz zum Übersetzen?

have fun :)

[cold vessel]

🤔

[hot cloak]

lel

[opal sequoia]

@cold vessel Zoey had a solid line of reasoning in her brain that demonstrated with perfect clarity why she should refuse, but it was quickly obscured behind a chorus line of dancing dollar signs.

[ocean robin]

Good luck. 👀

[opal sequoia]

You want one, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

Yeah, whai not. 🤔

[opal sequoia]

While you're at the store, as long as you have enough money, you should buy a new bottle of milk and a loaf of bread, because we don't have any left.@ocean robin

[ocean robin]

Oki dokie.

[cold vessel]

Why did I get a harder one 😦

[pine ginkgo]

because you are better

[ocean robin]

must admit it as well

[hot cloak]

basementality performing execution-by-grammar

[opal sequoia]

I figured you would want a challenge, henbruas.

Since you're bored.

[ocean robin]

"Während du in dem Laden bin, solange du genug Geld hast, sollst du eine neue Flasche von Milch und einen Brot kaufen, weil wir kein mehr haben.

I need desperate help about that "any left" plox ;u;

[pine ginkgo]

nope

i don't know the original sentence

but nope

[ocean robin]

wait a sec

[cold vessel]

Remember the conjugation of "sein", flappy

[ocean robin]

While you're at the store, as long as you have enough money, you should buy a new bottle of milk and a loaf of bread, because we don't have any left.

I fuck up on sein now?!

Oh yeah jesus.

that's the worst mistake I have ever seen in my entire life, must fix it

[pine ginkgo]

also check your tenses, flaps

[ocean robin]

wew tenses

It's present simple everywhere though

[cold vessel]

"should"

I'm assuming

[ocean robin]

Nope, it's "sollst" like I did.

[dire sentinel]

[pine ginkgo]

really

[ocean robin]

Also let's just fix that horrible mistake.

[sudden panther]

Ooooh hen and Flop game happening simultaneously?

[ocean robin]

Would it be solltest?

Why?

"Während du in dem Laden bist, solange du genug Geld hast, sollst du eine neue Flasche von Milch und einen Brot kaufen, weil wir kein mehr haben.

Far better oh my god. Next.

[sudden panther]

Instructions not clear. Got stuck in a while loop and bought bread and milk until I completely ran out of money.

[pine ginkgo]

tbh, i would restructure the sentence in german

but that's not for your level

[ocean robin]

Wot Arrem, did I just write that?

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin What I've started doing when I translate a word from English to German is to translate it back again using either dict.cc again or preferably leo

[ocean robin]

but that's not for your level
B2 stuff?

[hot cloak]

he's making a joke @ocean robin ...

[steep wigeon]

can I have a easy sentence to translate

preferably guess what

[cold vessel]

It helps avoid mixing up words that are the same in English but different in german

[pine ginkgo]

mhh, not sure about the level, flaps

[hot cloak]

@ocean robin if you really want, look up "Time Manner Place - TML" (also known as TeKaMoLo)

[ocean robin]

Yeah Mitch I didn't kniw righto. :v

[hot cloak]

but its really not important

it just makes things... sound better

[sudden panther]

I mean, you did, but Base did too. 😛

[hot cloak]

but its still grammatically correct

[ocean robin]

lol, I am already addicted to a music

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin For example, try doing that with "solange" (unless I'm wrong and you can use that here)

[pine ginkgo]

you can

spoiler

well

[hot cloak]

... RAT WAS?

[cold vessel]

Oh, that's interesting

[ocean robin]

I saw that word twice and double-checked

[pine ginkgo]

depending on how do the sentence

[ocean robin]

don't say it's wrong please

[shy bobcat]

what is flops’ sentence? I lowkey missed it

😅

[pine ginkgo]

well, it can be a biiiit unclear, but it's fine

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

if you want it to be super correct, you can add a word

but it doesn't matter for now

[cold vessel]

@pine ginkgo I figured it would mean that you should keep buying until you run out of money xD

[ocean robin]

Wooo.

[cold vessel]

Wait, isn't that what arrem said?

[opal sequoia]

@steep wigeon What level of German are you at?

[pine ginkgo]

it can, but context is important

[steep wigeon]

the worse kind.

[cold vessel]

@pine ginkgo Would "sofern" be better?

[ocean robin]

Wow I said dat.

[pine ginkgo]

yeah

[steep wigeon]

@opal sequoia

[pine ginkgo]

or just wenn

[ocean robin]

Wha? What is dat word.

Hoyl

[pine ginkgo]

it's alright, flapps

is not really wrong, but it can be better

continue doing the rest

[ocean robin]

just, be perfect

Okay so where are the rest of the errors. You said tenses.

And there is that "sollst" which bothers me a bit.

[shy bobcat]

why so?

[ocean robin]

I don't know, hesitating between sollst and solltest now...

[shy bobcat]

what was the original english 🤔

[ocean robin]

While you're at the store, as long as you have enough money, you should buy a new bottle of milk and a loaf of bread, because we don't have any left.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, @steep wigeon Like absolute beginner? Try to translate this then: The young boy is playing with his dog

[steep wigeon]

Der jung spielt mit seinem hund.

shrug

[sudden panther]

1 👦 spielt mitm 🐶 vong ihm.

[hot cloak]

is that der Junge? or is der Jung okay?

[sudden panther]

No, it's der Junge.

[steep wigeon]

I dunno

aw.

[hot cloak]

rip

[sudden panther]

Make sure to capitalize your nouns. 😉

[hot cloak]

is playing

[steep wigeon]

so uh

[hot cloak]

Der junge spielt gerade mit seinem hund

[steep wigeon]

lmao

give me another one

I got this

[opal sequoia]

It's fine without gerade.

[steep wigeon]

it was a joke

[hot cloak]

^--- (i'm joking)

but only slightly

[opal sequoia]

Have to make sure since I don't know if someone could get the wrong impression.

[hot cloak]

yh I guess, but technically that is more correct, no?

[steep wigeon]

gerade

[opal sequoia]

Depends on the context, I suppose.

[hot cloak]

if you really wanted to emphasize the boy is currently at this point in time playing with his dog

[steep wigeon]

yeah I guess.

@opal sequoia

gib another pls

[ocean robin]

wow

[opal sequoia]

I'm writing a letter to my friend who lives in Germany. @steep wigeon

[steep wigeon]

oh shit

[ocean robin]

Don't worry, you'll do fine. 😃

[opal sequoia]

Now what? 😏

[steep wigeon]

what is the word for letter

[hot cloak]

der Brief <--- (hint: article here is a trick question, ish)

[opal sequoia]

dict.cc

[ocean robin]

Brief?

[steep wigeon]

Ich schreibe ein Brief zu mein Freund wer in Deutschland lebt.

[ocean robin]

Mmmh, can I help correcting here?

[hot cloak]

@steep wigeon read my edit

[steep wigeon]

you can

if you want

I'm just trying to unrust my german

[ocean robin]

Well, first, hear what Mitch said and think about it.

[steep wigeon]

not a clue.

[hot cloak]

"ich schreibe --- what am I writing?"

what do you do, when you ask "what" of something

[steep wigeon]

I feel stupid

Not a clue

[hot cloak]

accusative case

[steep wigeon]

I dunno

[hot cloak]

sticking to just this part of the sentence

ich schreibe ein Brief

what is wrong here?

[steep wigeon]

einem

?

[hot cloak]

dem is dative

[steep wigeon]

oh

uhhhhhh

no idea

dative accusative

reee

[hot cloak]

der die das die den die das die dem der dem den des der des der

[steep wigeon]

oh dear.

[hot cloak]

it is der Brief

in the accusative case

👋 Arrem

[sudden panther]

Classic Flops. Can I help correcting? Sure Flops. And then she doesn't.

[cold vessel]

Zoey had a solid line of reasoning in her brain that demonstrated with perfect clarity why she should refuse, but it was quickly obscured behind a chorus line of dancing dollar signs.

Zoey hatte eine zuverlässige Argumentation in ihrem Gehirn, die hat mit perfekter Klarheit bewiesen, warum sie verweigern solltest, aber sie wurde schnell hinter einer Revue von tanzender Dollar-Zeichen verdeckt.

This sentence was waaaaay too hard for me :/

[hot cloak]

oh god who gave you that

that's also execution by grammar

[sudden panther]

Base.

[pine ginkgo]

henbruas

subordinating clauses

[cold vessel]

Sorry

[pine ginkgo]

your conjugations

[cold vessel]

Zoey hatte eine zuverlässige Argumentation in ihrem Gehirn, die mit perfekter Klarheit bewiesen hat, warum sie verweigern solltest, aber sie wurde schnell hinter einer Revue von tanzender Dollar-Zeichen verd

[pine ginkgo]

conjugations

[cold vessel]

Yes, looking at that now

[sudden panther]

You dropped a bit at the end. 😛

[cold vessel]

ups

[steep wigeon]

I wish I had a german teacher

[ocean robin]

@steep wigeon Mitch gave to you the definite articles, but here you have a indefinte article which is "ein".

And you must put the declension since tou know now that it's masculine accusative.

Arrem I wasn't here.

[cold vessel]

@pine ginkgo Can you give me a hint? I can't figure out what conjugations are wrong

[pine ginkgo]

hahahaha

warum

go

look at it

translate it back

and back again

[cold vessel]

But that's not a conjugation?

[ocean robin]

What's wrong about that warum though?

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin I don't think they use it like that

[ocean robin]

Another word would fit better?

[cold vessel]

But I don't remember what you're supposed to use

[sudden panther]

Well just check them and make sure that you're using the correct person for each verb.

[thick charm]

also starts with a w

[cold vessel]

Oh, the "solltest" is definitely wrong

[opal sequoia]

What's wrong with tricky sentences? 😄

It's okay if you don't get them right. As long as you can identify some things you still need to learn.

[ocean robin]

Mmmh. I am searching too.

[steep wigeon]

FAL SHHH

[ocean robin]

Wew I have an idea.

raises hand shyly

[opal sequoia]

Sorry for not participating much in corrections. I have an essay due later so I have to finish it. 😔

But I can work together with you guys tomorrow to do some practice if anyone would like that, to make up for giving you difficult sentences.

[ocean robin]

No problem about that.

[cold vessel]

If you have an idea just spit it out

[pine ginkgo]

oh henbruas

one more thing

you can say sie wurde hinter etwas verdeckt

[ocean robin]

I was thinking about weshalb maybe it's wrong idk

[pine ginkgo]

but you would rather say sie wurde von etwas verdeckt

actually

one further thinking

i don't think you can say the former at all 🤔

[opal sequoia]

This might actually be more useful for you right now than random sentences, @steep wigeon http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar/nomakkexpl.html

And some more similar things: http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar.html

[cold vessel]

Ok, so we're currently at
Zoey hatte eine zuverlässige Argumentation in ihrem Gehirn, die mit perfekter Klarheit bewiesen hat, warum sie verweigern sollte, aber sie wurde schnell von einer Revue von tanzender Dollar-Zeichen verdeckt.

And I can't figure out the "warum" 😐

[pine ginkgo]

check your declensions

nothing warum you twerp

[cold vessel]

I thought when you said "warum" earlier you meant it was the wrong word 😐

[pine ginkgo]

i didn't want to tell you what verb you fucked up

now fix your declensions

[ocean robin]

And was my suggestion righto?

[pine ginkgo]

i don't know what you said

[ocean robin]

I was thinking about weshalb maybe it's wrong idk

[pine ginkgo]

yeah it works

[ocean robin]

But why not warum?

[pine ginkgo]

why?

[ocean robin]

Why what?

[cold vessel]

Ok, so at least I think it should be "tanzenden"

Unless those kinds of adjectives decline differently, in which case fuck me

[pine ginkgo]

good dude

[pallid kelp]

hi peepl. Listen to this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk2sVQjHCMM
which is cool af, but what I ask of ye is, could you name what genre(s) it is? I'd like to find more like it 🤔

[viscid cape]

I like the song 👌

No idea about the genre though

[vale badge]

I'd just say that it's an electronic soundtrack/ambient electronic track. I'm not sure there's a genre, but it reminds me of Faster Than Light's soundtrack.

[vernal halo]

Hey everyone

[hot cloak]

hallo.

[vernal halo]

How do you say "at what hour do you want me to come " in german?

[hot cloak]

at a certain hour, or just at what time?

[vernal halo]

at certain hour

[hot cloak]

a bit tricky, there's a ton of different ways to say it

i'm not sure what the best/native way would be

[vernal halo]

Can you tell me one of the ways?

[twilit garden]

"Um wie viel Uhr soll ich kommen/da sein?"

[vernal halo]

Thank you very much

[hot cloak]

ah thanks Nemo, I wasn't sure whether to say "am/zu/um/???" for the preposition

using google translate it was giving me examples using all of them

[still hazel]

DON'T USE-- nevermind...

[hot cloak]

what? @still hazel

[still hazel]

Don't use Google translate lol

[hot cloak]

yeah you shouldn't, but I use it to check my thinking

[still hazel]

Me too

[hot cloak]

its just that when it gives contradicting answers to things

then you know it can't be right

[still hazel]

I figured you were using it as a dictionary

[hot cloak]

ah no, its only for full-sentences

to get the gist of where things should go

https://dict.cc 💯 💯 🔥 for dictionary useage

[opal sequoia]

You can get a lot of sentences from dict.cc too.

[pallid kelp]

try reverso context instead of translate. It's not always accurate but you can be sure it'll be better than gT

[lavish saddle]

@opal sequoia

its here!

[opal sequoia]

🙀

Show us the first thing you cook in it.

[lavish saddle]

Lol :D

sure man haha

[opal sequoia]

😮

[lavish saddle]

@opal sequoia just ended up making an instant noodle that I wouldn't have been able to make otherwise 🙃

ahaha

[hot cloak]

wouldn't have been able to make

i've been making instant noodles with just boiling water from an electric kettle

before I had a microwave

[lavish saddle]

the noodles are already cooked tho

[hot cloak]

wot

[lavish saddle]

they were already soft

no need for boiling

[opal sequoia]

Yeah some noodles are made for microwave specifically.

[lavish saddle]

I guess I coulda fried it

but dishesss

[dire sentinel]

i got some instant noodle shite for lunch too

but it's like

diet food

so it's like, enough noodles to feed a small hamster

instead of a person

[opal sequoia]

🍜

[lavish saddle]

It's meh

it's too spicy for me

but yeah, those diet thingies are always mega small portions 😦

[dire sentinel]

My mom took me out for Thai food when I got back from the airport i got this spicy curry that was super dope

had bamboo in it

[lavish saddle]

Yeah, spicy food can be good...but this had no flavor

just spicy D:

Imma just make me some burritos for the day and forget about it haha

[shy bobcat]

ich hab Bock drauf Sätze zu übersetzen 😄

[opal sequoia]

Mmm, burritos.

You should try Kelseys last message to start.

[shy bobcat]

the one about burritos?

[opal sequoia]

Ja.

🌯

[shy bobcat]

Ich mach' mal manche Burritos für den Tag, und vergesse das alles.

[opal sequoia]

Interessant.

[quasi merlin]

"manche" doesn't work here.

[shy bobcat]

😦

[opal sequoia]

Ein paar Burritos?

[quasi merlin]

^

[shy bobcat]

ok ja

das klingt ja besser 😅

[quasi merlin]

And maybe "einfach" instead of "mal" 🤔

[sudden panther]

Mika bully.

[shy bobcat]

wut

mika helpful 😄

[opal sequoia]

Nun musst du etwas anderes übersetzen. Was für ein Satz willst du?

[lavish saddle]

(was für einen)

[shy bobcat]

weiß nicht.

Nichts so Kompliziertes wie der eine da oben 😛

[opal sequoia]

Ja, einene Satz. Genau.

[sudden panther]

1en richtig harden Satz

[shy bobcat]

ich soll fehlerhafte Copypastas übersetzen, damit meine Fehler mit den Anderen zusammenpassen

[quasi merlin]

Ich bin kein Bully, Arrem.

[lavish saddle]

There is a famous saying, “An apple a day keeps the doctor away,” so I have chosen the red, tasty and juicy apple as my favourite fruit.

try that x)

Found some sentences online

[shy bobcat]

but

[opal sequoia]

"The cost of one bottle of whatever scotch these people were drinking would have paid for her appointment."

[shy bobcat]

an apple a day keeps the doctor away isn't a german phrase in all likelyhood

[sudden panther]

Translate it literally.

[lavish saddle]

Ein Apfel am Tag hält den Doktor fern.

was on dict

Looks like it exists enough 😄

[shy bobcat]

but it doesn't rhyme 😦

[sudden panther]

Look at Kels spoiling things. 😛

[opal sequoia]

Ein Apfel eines Tages hütet den Artz weg.

[shy bobcat]

Es gibt eine bekannte Phrase, "Ein Apfel am Tag hält den Doktor fern," also habe ich den roten, leckeren, saftigen Apfel als Lieblingsobst ausgewählt.

@lavish saddle boom

now we wait for the natives to roast my grammar 😅

[lavish saddle]

😂

[sudden panther]

0/10 demoted to A0.

[shy bobcat]

lel

[sudden panther]

Hope dats not from a book cos its fokken garbage m8.

[shy bobcat]

0x1 biste das?

[sudden panther]

Jo.

[shy bobcat]

isch sein dough nicht a0 isch haben das flussigkeit einem deutscher

ok @sudden panther since you're probably close enough to native can you actually judge my german

like non-memously

[sudden panther]

It's k. I'd maybe go with Sprichwort to match the orignal more closely.

[shy bobcat]

kk

next sentence 😄

"The cost of one bottle of whatever scotch these people were drinking would have paid for her appointment."

right

"Der Preis einer Flasche welches immer Scotch, den diese Menschen tranken, hätte ihren Termin bezahlt".

I'm pretty shaky on the "einer Flasche welches immer Scotch" tbh

[hot cloak]

warum immer?

"always scotch"?

🤔

warum nicht.. irgendwas oder... idk

[shy bobcat]

@hot cloak "Was (auch) immer" is whatever

"ever" is a word for "always"

so it's literally the same

[hot cloak]

🤔

[language self-reflection intensifies]

[shy bobcat]

anyway

"Der Preis einer Flasche welches immer Scotch, den diese Menschen tranken, hätte ihren Termin bezahlt"

Please roast my grammar 😄

Grammar roasting leads to improvement 😄

[opal sequoia]

Tranken is past simple of trinken?

[shy bobcat]

ja

drink drank drunk - trinken trank(en) getrunken

[opal sequoia]

Cool.

[hot cloak]

"Der Preis von ihrer Scotch, was sie trinken konnte, konnte für ihre Termin bezahlt haben"

do me pls

[shy bobcat]

well that is not even the same sentence

[hot cloak]

is it?

[shy bobcat]

"The price of her scotch, what they could drink, could have paid for her apartment"

[whole rapids]

NATIVE REQUIRED

[shy bobcat]

that is what you said

[hot cloak]

oops, Termin

myb

i wasn't correcting you, I was just attempting it too

[shy bobcat]

how hard is it to get your grammar roasted on this server 😒

[hot cloak]

no ban plz

[whole rapids]

"was" should probs be replaced with "den" since you want a relative pronoun

[opal sequoia]

Lesson #1 of the translation game: reading comprehension.

(For all who have played)

[shy bobcat]

@sudden panther roast grammarrrrr

pls

😩

[whole rapids]

"welches immer Scotch" needs s at end for genitive

[sudden panther]

ur shit and should be ashamed if i were u id fokken off meself

[shy bobcat]

I'm not even sure it should actually be a genitive

but I have no idea what case it ought to be

"eine Tasse Kaffee" is not "eine Tasse *Kaffees"

[whole rapids]

what

[sudden panther]

I'm not sure if that construction even works tbh. See wot @quasi merlinmeme says.

[whole rapids]

need expert advice

[shy bobcat]

I'll put it here again (😒) so mika doesn't have to scroll up
"Der Preis einer Flasche welches immer Scotch, den diese Menschen tranken, hätte ihren Termin bezahlt"

this is getting spammy tbh

[ocean robin]

TRANSLATING GAME

WOOO

[opal sequoia]

It's okay. It's just #general-2

That's why we do it here. 😄

[shy bobcat]

ooh boy here's flops to take 3 hours to translate a sentence

[quasi merlin]

What @sudden panther ?

[whole rapids]

@ocean robin Translate: I can translate very fast.

[quasi merlin]

I can't read everything right now

Quote it, please

[shy bobcat]

I wrote the sentence a couple down

"Der Preis einer Flasche welches immer Scotch, den diese Menschen tranken, hätte ihren Termin bezahlt"
roast my grammar

[sudden panther]

Der Preis einer Flasche welches immer Scotch, den diese Menschen tranken, hätte ihren Termin bezahlt

Das da.

[shy bobcat]

kja

ja*

[ocean robin]

Waito.

[quasi merlin]

Doesn't work

[shy bobcat]

as I thought

but I couldn't figure out how one would replace it 😅

[sudden panther]

Ayy Solet is here. Give Flopperooni a sentence.

[shy bobcat]

hey luna 😄

[opal sequoia]

I wanna see Catmod come in here sometime and roast people to heck on their German.

[pine ginkgo]

The price of a bottle, which always scotch, that those humans drank, would have paid their appointment.

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Oh yeah, Menschen. I didn't even see that.

[shy bobcat]

well Leute is a quick enough easy replacement

and the "ihren" their means "her" 😄

the only real question is how I'd say "a bottle of whatever scotch"

[pine ginkgo]

Irgendein/etc

[shy bobcat]

what case is "Scotch" in in this anyway

[whole rapids]

Der Scotch

[pine ginkgo]

Scotch

[whole rapids]

oh case l0l

[shy bobcat]

that could be 3 of 4 cases 😛

[pine ginkgo]

L0l

Think hard

[shy bobcat]

der Scotch, den Scotch, dem Scotch, des Scotches

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

What is the verb

The verb will tell you

[shy bobcat]

the sentence is "the price of a bottle of whatever scotch that the people were drinking could have paid for her appointment"

[ocean robin]

Sorry, was playing lul.

[shy bobcat]

that is the clause

[pine ginkgo]

You are doomed the

You gotta learn german for that

[opal sequoia]

😄

[pine ginkgo]

Well

What cases do "of" words normally take 🤔

[shy bobcat]

why do u think I'm on this server if not to learn german

usually they're genitives, but "eine Tasse Kaffee" doesn't look like a genitive to me

[pine ginkgo]

Do you only know one translation for of?

No wonder

Maybe you should learn german first

[shy bobcat]

[pine ginkgo]

[hot cloak]

Maybe you should learn german first

wow thanks @pine ginkgo

[shy bobcat]

can'cha see I'm trying 😅

[pine ginkgo]

Ikr mitch

[whole rapids]

no mercy

[pine ginkgo]

The dog of my mother

[whole rapids]

new sentence pls

[pine ginkgo]

Translate that

[shy bobcat]

And, imo, the of in "a cup of coffee" looks like it ought to be a genitive

[opal sequoia]

Der Preis einer Flasche von irgendeinem Scotch?

[pine ginkgo]

Guter base

[shy bobcat]

"der Hund meiner Mutter" or "der Hund von meiner Mutter"

[hot cloak]

uh

[pine ginkgo]

Now, was that so hard teeeis

[shy bobcat]

no

[pine ginkgo]

Good teeeis

[hot cloak]

der Hund, der meine Mutter ist?

[lost dagger]

:hmm

[shy bobcat]

The dog that is my mother

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

I dont think the dog is your mother

[whole rapids]

are you a dog?

[shy bobcat]

ok so "der Preis einer Flasche von irgendeinem Scotch, den die Leute tranken, könnte ihren Termin bezahlen"

[pine ginkgo]

Is it would have or could have

[shy bobcat]

oh yeah it was would have sorry

I was misremembering

[pine ginkgo]

You kinda change it everytime you write the sentence

[shy bobcat]

😛

[hot cloak]

Der Hund das ist der ihrer der meine Mutter

[quasi merlin]

Der Preis einer Flasche von was auch immer für einen Scotch die Leute tranken [...]

[ocean robin]

wot

when context isn't there

[pine ginkgo]

Mikah, geh bluten

[lost dagger]

Beh, gluten

[whole rapids]

I gave you a sentence to translate Flappers

time is ticking

[ocean robin]

woooooo

[pine ginkgo]

Pferd

[ocean robin]

sorry D: didn't see dat

[whole rapids]

hello

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo the original original was "The cost of one bottle of whatever scotch these people were drinking would have paid for her appointment."

[ocean robin]

and actually I am going to eat

[pine ginkgo]

You should try to give flappsy sentences that she has fleed from, to see if she notices

[hot cloak]

Der Hund, der meiner Mutter ist

^^^^^ 🔥 💯 🔥

[thick charm]

Welcome to Hesse

[ocean robin]

gentive again and again

[thick charm]

You just got the Hessian Staatsbürgerschaft

[lost dagger]

Fled*

[thick charm]

ist instead of gehört actually is a thing around here

[whole rapids]

good idea

[pine ginkgo]

Lol

[lost dagger]

du bist mir

[pine ginkgo]

Shit. Snekkle

[thick charm]

"Der Ball ist mir"

👌

[hot cloak]

@thick charm it sounds extremely weird...

[pine ginkgo]

Hessen

[thick charm]

I take offense to that

[pine ginkgo]

Dont think about them

[shy bobcat]

anyway

"The cost of one bottle of whatever scotch these people were drinking would have paid for her appointment."

"der Preis einer Flasche von irgendeinem Scotch, den diese Leute tranken, hätte ihren Termin bezahlt"

[whole rapids]

I shall compile a list of sentences that give Flaps angst and gave them to her periodically

[opal sequoia]

You want one, Pferd?

[ocean robin]

Anyway, where's the sentence?

[pine ginkgo]

Nice pferd

[sudden panther]

Go eat and then you'll get your sentence.

[thick charm]

Flops!