general-2

[fair iron]

Is it a concept you're struggling with, or a sentence you can't fully understand, or something else entirely?

[viscid cape]

Or of you have doubts about a topic, natives can send you references you should read in order to understand it

[rare shard]

I thought you post some challenging sentences sometimes and ask members to sort it out.

[pine ginkgo]

if they ask for it

[rare shard]

Hit me with the Deutsche bootcamp 😄

[fair iron]

The man took his dog with him on a business trip.

[viscid cape]

It'd be pretty cool to have a bot for that kind of thing

[fair iron]

Enjoy. ^^

[viscid cape]

If it were possible 🤔

[fair iron]

It might be.

I could try working on such a feature, see how it turns out.

[viscid cape]

If you could it'd be neat 😄

[rare shard]

Am I allowed to use the dictionary?

[fair iron]

Of course.

[twilit garden]

Of course, this is not an exam 😄

[rare shard]

OK, gut 😃

Der Mann hat den Hund auf eine Geschäftsreise mit nehmen.

[fair iron]

Let's start from the beginning.

Why denn?

[rare shard]

typo

zu is probably wrong

is "auf" better?

[fair iron]

Yes.

[rare shard]

Is there a resource for prepositions?

[fair iron]

I can't recall seeing one.

[rare shard]

Der Mann hat den Hund auf eine Geschäftsreise mit nehmen.

Is there anything I missed there?

[pine ginkgo]

the perfect

[fair iron]

^

[viscid cape]

You can always refer to this if you need grammar help: https://coerll.utexas.edu/gg/gr/index.html

[rare shard]

Danke

[fair iron]

Those last two words are the only thing that needs correcting.

[viscid cape]

Although it wouldn't help you guess that Reise goes with auf.

[cold vessel]

The original sentence did say "his" and not "the" though

[fair iron]

That too. ^

[rare shard]

OK

Der Mann hat seinen Hund auf eine Geschäftsreise mitgenommen.

Is mitgenommen correct?

[fair iron]

💯

Yep!

[rare shard]

Danke

It had some other meanings as well.

Could it really mean harassed?

[cold vessel]

Does "Der Mann hat seinen Hund auf eine Dienstfahrt mitgebracht" work? I'm not entirely clear on the difference between "take with" and "bring along", even in English 🤔

[fair iron]

It could mean under the weather.

Er sah ein wenig mitgenommen aus. -> He looked a little worse for wear / under the weather / sad.

[twilit garden]

or worn out

[fair iron]

^

[twilit garden]

it's applicable to objects too

[viscid cape]

@cold vessel To my mind, you should use mitnehmen when you're taking something with you and you intend to keep it and bring it back, whereas mitbringen implies you're taking something with you and you'll leave it at the destination

Is that correct?

[twilit garden]

the nuance is right, but usually they are more or less synonymous

But yeah, you would say "Ich bringe Bier mit", not "Ich nehme Bier mit"

[viscid cape]

Cool, thank you 😃

[cold vessel]

Thanks

[rare shard]

I'm ready for another sentence, bitte.

[fair iron]

Hopefully Nemo or Solet can help out with that, I'm off to bed. Good night.

[rare shard]

@viscid cape Do you study grammar from this website https://coerll.utexas.edu/gg/gr/index.html

@fair iron Thanks a lot.

I'm aware it is quite late, so we could do this later if you guys want that. Thank you for your help.

[twilit garden]

He gave the dog some food and then went to work

[rare shard]

OK

Er hat dem Hund etwas Essen gegeben und dann ist er zur Arbeit gegangen.

[cold vessel]

You forgot to capitalize a couple of nouns at least

[rare shard]

Danke

[twilit garden]

"to give food to something"
which case does "something" get then?

[rare shard]

Dativ?

[twilit garden]

yes

so the article in front of it should be....?

[viscid cape]

@rare shard The three best grammar websites I know are https://coerll.utexas.edu/gg/gr/index.html http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Grammatik.html http://www.canoo.net/services/OnlineGrammar/Wort/Ueberblick/index.html?lang=de

They're all very reliable and excellent

But they're reference grammars, studying them step-by-step is certainly overwhelming

[rare shard]

Dem

[twilit garden]

yes

the rest is pretty good 👌

[rare shard]

I've been taking a break from German for a while and Dativ was never my strong suit.

Thank you for your help, guys.

[twilit garden]

the last part could also be und ist dann zur Arbeit gegangen

Your grammar is pretty decent for A-level 👍

[rare shard]

Oh, so no subject is needed? Cool.
Vielen Dank 😃

[twilit garden]

just like the english sentence, the object can be in the first part

[rare shard]

Ok, you lost me there. I don't see the object in the first part.

In the English sentence

[twilit garden]

He gave the dog some food and then went to work

[rare shard]

Oh, that's the subject.

What do you call it in German?

[twilit garden]

das Subjekt :D

[rare shard]

Cool

Vielen Dank

Mehr Sätze?

[pine ginkgo]

Every night we are sitting outside in the garden while the children are soundly sleeping.

[cold vessel]

Heh, the difficulty is ramping up

[pine ginkgo]

someone said something of challenging sentences

[rare shard]

Yes

[twilit garden]

sound is a nice word

as an adjective, i mean

[rare shard]

I asked for an intensive bootcamp treatment 😄

[twilit garden]

STILLGESTANDEN

[rare shard]

Damn

Not that literally 😃

"Soundly" is gonna be a pain.

[cold vessel]

Well

Depends what you search for 😄

[civic silo]

Do we speak mostly English in the second channel, I take it?

[pine ginkgo]

whatever is needed

mostly the language that is the easiest to converse with

or what people request

[rare shard]

Is there a resource for collocations in German?

[cold vessel]

@rare shard dict.cc often has them

[rare shard]

Supi

[twilit garden]

https://www.dict.cc/?s=sound+sleep

[rare shard]

Jede Abend sitzen wir draußen im Garten während die Kinder tiefem schlafen.

[pine ginkgo]

nope

good attempt tho

[rare shard]

Last verb?

[twilit garden]

The middle part is perfect, you should take a look at the start and the end of the sentence

[pine ginkgo]

don't forget

usually you only have one subject in a sentence

or clause

[rare shard]

Lets start with the beginning, is it just the comma?

[twilit garden]

no, the case too

[rare shard]

Oh

[twilit garden]

but i think you have to know about the thing you have to use there, otherwise you couldn't know

[rare shard]

Yeah, that's true. I don't.

Jede Abend sitzen wir draußen im Garten während die Kinder tief schlafen.

[twilit garden]

It should be in accusative it is called Adverbialakkusativ or Adverbial accusative
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_adverbial_phrases#Accusative_nouns_with_adverbial_meaning

[rare shard]

Thanks

[pine ginkgo]

what kind of word is soundly

[rare shard]

an adverb

in English.

[pine ginkgo]

so why did you decline it in your german sentence?

[rare shard]

Oh

Jeden Abend sitzen wir draußen im Garten, während die Kinder tief schlafen.

[pine ginkgo]

the case again

for the first words

and a comma mistake to fix :)

[rare shard]

Jeden Abend sitzen wir draußen im Garten, während die Kinder tief schlafen.

[cold vessel]

So dict.cc says that "to sleep soundly" is "tief und fest schlafen". Is it redundant to use both or?

[pine ginkgo]

kinda/yes/no

[civic silo]

There are idioms in English that are kind of redundant if you think about them too, so I wouldn't think much of it

[twilit garden]

you can use both or either of them as you wish

fest schlafen
tief schlafen
tief und fest schlafen - repetitio for emphasis

[viscid cape]

The "redundancy" that sometimes bothers me in German is "die Art und Weise"

This really feels like it should be a single word

[twilit garden]

die Weise = the manner

[viscid cape]

Can I say just die Weise and that's fine?

[twilit garden]

give me an example

[viscid cape]

Like "The way one should do that is by developing an algorithm"

[twilit garden]

Die Methode die man anwenden sollte
Die (Art und) Weise, in der man das machen sollte

[viscid cape]

Hummmm the Methode, good

I'll use that more often 😏

Can I use 'wie' instead of 'in der'?

[twilit garden]

yes

[viscid cape]

Cool, thanks again

[rare shard]

I wish I had found this server a long time ago. How long has it been online?

[viscid cape]

We celebrated one year a couple of days ago if I'm not mistaken.

However there was no cake.

[twilit garden]

🍰

The cake is a lie

[rare shard]

Cool

[lost dagger]

I'm afraid movie tickets will sell out

I got one but the person I'm seeing it with isn't here yet

the previous showing sold out

[valid ice]

tell them to get one or get cooked then

[lost dagger]

saw a later showing

[lost dagger]

This chili is so good

It's vegan but I added cheese (and avocado) on top

[opal sequoia]

Nice.

[lost dagger]

Do you ever eat something and feel so wholesome?

I feel like my body will be happy because I'm feeding it delicious healthy food

even though I had a double cheeseburger for lunch

[placid heath]

My body is happier when I'm feeding it a double cheeseburger tho :D

Well, at least my brain is happier. :D

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, generally healthy food feels better to eat.

As long as it doesn't taste bad.

[lost dagger]

I spent so many years thinking brussel sprouts would be appalling based on what my mom says

Only to find out that they're delicious sautéed with garlic

I'm making that tomorrow

So excited

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, some people really like that.

Pretty much any vegetable sauteed in garlic will be good so try them all.

[lost dagger]

True

Only vegetable I don't like much is zucchini

And that's fine mixed with stuff

Like in chili

Drat

[pine ginkgo]

i used to hate zucchini

but nowadays it's really nice

[lost dagger]

I wanted to put zucchini and sweet potato in my chili but forgot

Hmm hopefully I learn to like it too

[pine ginkgo]

i used to call it shitty cucumber

because i super liked cucumber

and was disappointed when it turned out to be zucchini

[lost dagger]

Haha I've called it the same

[opal sequoia]

Mmm, sweet potato is a good choice.

[lost dagger]

I have one friend who loves zucchini but HATES cucumber

[opal sequoia]

I don't eat brussel sprouts or zucchini at the moment.

But I do love cucumber.

The flavour is so nice.

A salad sandwich that has cucumber is the best.

[lost dagger]

He says even the smell makes him nauseous

Mmm

[opal sequoia]

Wow. 😮

I didn't think it has much smell.

[lost dagger]

I didn't either

It started a huge argument

And then we tried to sneak a tiny piece of cucumber into his food

And he got sick 😦

[opal sequoia]

Wow.

Crazy.

[lost dagger]

Sorry that was a really boring story I feel weird right now I want to eat all this chili but I have to write essay for tomorrow and don't have time for eat the chili

[opal sequoia]

Yeah.

Write the essay.

Write it, Snek.

Then write mine.

[lost dagger]

What's yours on?

[opal sequoia]

I haven't decided yet necessarily.

I have only 1.5 weeks to write it though.

So I should start.

I also haven't really done the reading for it. But it's so much. 😦

[lost dagger]

I had I think 11 days to write this one and it's due in 12 hours and I haven't started yet =]

[opal sequoia]

But what's yours on?

[lost dagger]

I did do the reading though

Positive emotions in primates and humans

[opal sequoia]

Oh.

That sounds hard.

Mine is on Husserl or Heiddeger.

I think I will do "What is authenticity according to Heiddeger? Should we aspire to it?"

[lost dagger]

That sounds like an interesting thema

[opal sequoia]

The ideas are cool.

But the readings are too hard for me.

The ideas, easy. But I have a really short attention span for reading.

[lost dagger]

Well best of luck with it, I'm going to try to get a start on now

[opal sequoia]

Okay. Make sure to include primates and/or humans in your essay. That's my tip. Good luck.

[lost dagger]

Katze in ihrem neuen Bett

Ah good idea

[opal sequoia]

😻

She's like "Why didn't I get any chilli? 😾 "

[lost dagger]

haha

it's so good i wish she could have some

last time i had chili at a friend's house she gave some to her dog with her spoon then kept eating 🤢

[opal sequoia]

Wow.

You should've asked her for some too.

[lost dagger]

i've not even managed to write an outline

think i gotta sleep

i pray i can get myself up when my alarm goes off

and write this whole thing in the morning

[mild cosmos]

Random food question: if you sauteed some vegetables with diced onions and garlic, you would eat the onions and garlic too right?

Because my girlfriend doesn't eat them, and yet she doesn't like sauteed vegetables without diced onions and garlic in there too

And if you ask me, the onions and garlic are the best part

[opal sequoia]

Of course. It's delicious. 😄

[mild cosmos]

It's pretty much the source of all the flavor if you don't include peppers or something else flavorful haha

[cold vessel]

Does anyone have a sentence to translate? 🙂

[twilit garden]

start with this one:
Does anyone have a sentence to translate?

😉

[fair iron]

^^

[opal sequoia]

I have one you can translate from German.

[cold vessel]

Hat jemand einen Satz zu übersetzen?

@opal sequoia That works too

[twilit garden]

you should use translate as a noun here

[opal sequoia]

Von allen Schrecken ist stets der am teuflischsten, der vollkommen unerwartet eintritt und so grotesk ist, dass man ihn kaum glauben kann.

[twilit garden]

"Jemand hat etwas zu verb" is a bit archaic but like the english "to have to do something"

[opal sequoia]

How would you write it, Nemoses?

[twilit garden]

He was very close already "Hat jemand einen Satz zum Übersetzen?"

[opal sequoia]

Aha.

[cold vessel]

Oh, it's still "zu" with a noun? I wouldn't have thought that

[twilit garden]

or maybe "irgendjemand" because it wasn't addressed to anyone specific

[cold vessel]

I would have expected another preposition, I mean

[twilit garden]

zu is a bit like "in order to" or "for the purpose of"

in this case at least

[viscid cape]

Yeah, otherwise it'd sound like the sentence would be the thing used to translate

Oder 🤔

[cold vessel]

Then I start thinking of Hat jemand einen Satz um zu übersetzen?

I assume that doesn't work?

[viscid cape]

I don't think so

Using übersetzen intransitively like that is weird, I think

I'm not a native though

[fair iron]

Hat jemand einen Satz um zu übersetzen? would mean Does anyone have a sentence in order to translate?

[cold vessel]

Yeah I guess that doesn't make much sense

@opal sequoia This seems like an odd sentence 🤔

[opal sequoia]

Odd how?

I can give you a different one if it's hard to translate.

[cold vessel]

Nah, let me try

Of all horrors it is always the most sinister that absolutely unexpectedly enters and is so grotesque that you can hardly believe it

Uhh 🤔

[opal sequoia]

I guess so.

[cold vessel]

Huh?

[opal sequoia]

Well it might be more like "that comes completely unexpectedly".

[cold vessel]

Are you saying the rest is ok? 😮

[opal sequoia]

I don't really know. 😏

But that's how I would read it.

[cold vessel]

Hah, okay

[opal sequoia]

Do you want another?

[cold vessel]

Yeah, if you had an easier one. This one was a bit above my paygrade I feel

What was that from by the way? Not It, was it?

[sudden panther]

His brain.

Base is emo.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Im feuchten Zwielicht erklomm ich die abgetragene und uralte Steintreppe bis dahin, wo sie endete; dann zog ich mich wagemutig an den kleinen Vorsprüngen hinauf, die nach oben führten.

[ocean robin]

What.

[cold vessel]

Hi Flappy

Someone got some genitive sentences lying about? 😄

[opal sequoia]

You don't like my German? 😔

Okay, I will give you a normal sentence then.

[cold vessel]

No, I mean for Fläppers

[opal sequoia]

Oh.

I can do that.

[ocean robin]

Oh my god genitive.

[cold vessel]

Are you sure it's supposed to be "erklomm"? 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

Chuck's chucks were totally super cool chucks, which the chucks maker of the chucks making street made for Chuck's chucks collection.

[tacit jay]

Yeah, "erklomm" is correkt

if a bit unusual

[sudden panther]

Oke Flops, translate this I saw to the Flops her bike

[pine ginkgo]

go flöps

[ocean robin]

oh my god

[opal sequoia]

The artist's roommate's boyfriend had stolen the artist's paints and brushes.

[pine ginkgo]

bad base

my turn

:(

[ocean robin]

whoa

[opal sequoia]

Oh, sorry.

[ocean robin]

calm down

[opal sequoia]

Translate Luna's first.

[pine ginkgo]

tehehe

:)

[ocean robin]

solet yours is just insane

if i have this correctly oh god

[pine ginkgo]

it's actually pretty simple

nothing you haven't done before

you just gotta combine it

you have artistic freedom to translate "totally super cool"

[cold vessel]

In the humid twilight I scaled the worn out and ancient stone steps until their end; then I pulled myself daringly up the small ledges that lead upwards

[pine ginkgo]

oh, there is actually one thing that might be evil

🤔

[ocean robin]

I was all good before "maker of the chucks making street made"

[cold vessel]

🤔

That's hard to decode lol

[ocean robin]

like wat is this solet

[sudden panther]

You can pretend it says from the Chucks making street, but still don't translate it with a "from". That's just the meaning. You should use the genitive to practice your genitiving skills.

[opal sequoia]

Seems about right, henbruas, except "led" instead of "lead".

[cold vessel]

Oh, that's just my shitty English, heh

[opal sequoia]

Anyway it's from this text: http://www.hplovecraft.de/pdf/der_aussenseiter.pdf

[pine ginkgo]

if you want you can ignore the street for now

and we have a look at it at the end

[sudden panther]

Chuck's chucks were totally super cool chucks, which the chucks maker made for Chuck's chucks collection
Much better. 👌

I wasn't at school when we learned to say Chuck in German though. 😦

[opal sequoia]

Ich weiß nicht, wo ich geboren wurde, außer dass das Schloss unvorstellbar alt und unvorstellbar grauenhaft war, voll dunkler Gänge und hohen Decken, an denen man nichts als Spinnweben und Schatten zu entdecken vermochte.

🌞

[viscid cape]

Nichts als?

[opal sequoia]

Nothing but.

[viscid cape]

Wouldn't that be Nichts Anderes als?

Nevermind, I think you're right

[opal sequoia]

🕸

[pine ginkgo]

flappsy fled the battles

[viscid cape]

Everyone did

Thanks to your insane sentence

[pine ginkgo]

insane

really

there was one maybe difficult part

and we removed it already

if you get intimidated by simple structures, you should rethink your approach

[viscid cape]

Well I'd have to think some time in order to translate it 😂

Yes I get intimidated by that structure

[opal sequoia]

😦

[pine ginkgo]

do something for your b level then

[ocean robin]

Flapps didn't

[cold vessel]

I don't know where I was born, except that the castle was inconceivably old and gruesome, full of dark hallways and high ceilings, where you could find nothing but spiderwebs and shadows

[pine ginkgo]

look at henbruas

he's a and trying even more difficult sentences

and doing it from German

unless he is faking his level

[cold vessel]

German->English is easier than English->German 🤷

You mostly just need a dictionary

[ocean robin]

Chucks Chuck wären vollkommen sehr toll, was der Chuck des Hersteller für der Chuck des Chucks Sammlung.

That sounds so wrong

[pine ginkgo]

vollkommen

lol

[ocean robin]

whai, i found dis

[pine ginkgo]

i am quite disappointed flappss

[ocean robin]

but that was hard though, it was always the same word repeating itself and itself

[pine ginkgo]

yes

those are some odd mistakes though

[sudden panther]

I'm just gonna paste the original here again for reference.
Chuck's chucks were totally super cool chucks, which the chucks maker made for Chuck's chucks collection
Chucks Chuck wären vollkommen sehr toll, was der Chuck des Hersteller für der Chuck des Chucks Sammlung.

[ocean robin]

🤔

Wait I forgot the verb.

Awesome that.

[sudden panther]

Those are definitely some interesting mistakes. 🤔

[ocean robin]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Can I have a something to translate? 🤔

[ocean robin]

Genitive hurts. 😦

[sudden panther]

How much chuck could a chuckchuck chuck if a chuckchuck could chuck chuck? Go Base.

[ocean robin]

Oh my god good luck.

When will I be able to master genitive?

[pine ginkgo]

... tbh

its not really the genitive

that is disappointing me

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

its the rest

[ocean robin]

oh my god

worse than i thought

[opal sequoia]

Wie viel Chuck könnte ein Chuckchuck chucken, wenn ein Chuckchuck Chuck chucken könnte?

[pine ginkgo]

what tenses did you use flaps

[ocean robin]

well i hope I used past

[pine ginkgo]

check if you did, flaps

nice base

[ocean robin]

because my habit to swap subjonctive and past is well known

[pine ginkgo]

thats why

check it before, flappss

[ocean robin]

oh god please no

i did it again? D:

[opal sequoia]

What is the kind of situation where you would use "falls" as the conjunction? Can you do so in my sentence just now?

[ocean robin]

is silently sobbing in the distance because of an umlaut

[fair iron]

Dry those tears, you're better than this. 😃

[sudden panther]

I wouldn't really use falls here. Might just sound weird to my ear though. 🤔

[opal sequoia]

That's fair.

I'll keep an eye out for it.

[ocean robin]

But hoooow can I swap subjonctive andpast for an umlauuut.

[opal sequoia]

Because you're a learner, Flappy!

[sudden panther]

^Less feeling sorry for yourself, more fixing sentences.

[ocean robin]

Lol okay.

So *waren.

[sudden panther]

No *warens. Give us the whole thing. 😛

[ocean robin]

I am on phoooone.

[sudden panther]

Ew, phones.

[ocean robin]

Phone is eh you know messing up with me

[pine ginkgo]

flappsy

[ocean robin]

yus

okay solet

[pine ginkgo]

now stop omitting words

[ocean robin]

will try to do so

[thick charm]

lol what did I miss

[ocean robin]

you missed that I fucked up again with oast and subjonctive

[thick charm]

oast?

[ocean robin]

and dat my sentence is really wrong

[thick charm]

toast?

I like toast

[ocean robin]

phone stop

*past

[thick charm]

oh yeah

[ocean robin]

like I said wären instead of waren

[thick charm]

No one is born a master. You're much better at German than I'll ever be at French, never forget that.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[thick charm]

It's all about steady improvements. It'll click eventually, alright?

[ocean robin]

Yeah, I think so

[opal sequoia]

The more you make the mistake and try to fix it, the more you will remember it; if you just did it perfect straight away, maybe your brain won't even bother to commit it to memory.

[pine ginkgo]

i hope

[cold vessel]

Chucks Chucks waren total cool Chucks, die der Chuckshersteller hat für Chucks Chuckssammlung hergestellt
What genitive

[opal sequoia]

Like I used to make the mistake "Ich habe aufgewacht" so many times and Luna corrected me until I remembered. 😢

[pine ginkgo]

no henbruas

wrong

[cold vessel]

That's not surprising, but what parts?

[ocean robin]

wow but still look better than mine

[pine ginkgo]

adjectives are declined

subordinat clauses also do fun stuff to certain words

[ocean robin]

what the fuck adjectives wher

[fair iron]

Checques are declined, too.

[ocean robin]

I think I am becoming slowly blind.

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

maybe

flapsy, i think you need to work on your analyzing skills

[cold vessel]

Oh, right

[opal sequoia]

What words there are describing things, Flappy?

[cold vessel]

Chucks Chucks waren total coole Chucks, die der Chuckshersteller für Chucks Chuckssammlung hergestellt hat

[ocean robin]

But I know what adjectives are! D:

[pine ginkgo]

decline correctly, please

[ocean robin]

Ah coolen.

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

what case is it

[opal sequoia]

[cold vessel]

Wait 🤔

[ocean robin]

uuuuh in this case uuuh

i was going to say that of it was cooler acc or dat

[cold vessel]

@pine ginkgo Now?

[pine ginkgo]

nice

[cold vessel]

God I hate adjectives

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

But what's the case, henbruas?

[cold vessel]

It's nominative

Because of "sein"

[ocean robin]

*cool.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, excellent.

[ocean robin]

Sein is perfect fot not declinating things. 👌

[pine ginkgo]

well

its still declined

[opal sequoia]

What do you mean, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

every case is declined

[ocean robin]

That when there is sein there is no adjective declination?

[pine ginkgo]

there is?

[ocean robin]

Or I am mistaken.

[pine ginkgo]

oh

you mean only in the case of sein + adj

[ocean robin]

yus

[pine ginkgo]

you have to be clear, flapa

[ocean robin]

Yes, I am sorry 'bout that.

[pine ginkgo]

anyway

did you see your mistakes flappsy

[ocean robin]

sadly no

And I must sleep. 7 hrs of sleep by now.

[fair iron]

You've already been asleep for seven hours?

My, your somnambulism is impressive.

[ocean robin]

No. I have 7 hours left and then I must prepare myself fot high school. 🤔

I am awaken since 5.35 AM.

[fair iron]

"Awaken"? Cute. ^^

[ocean robin]

Wow all the words I use are cute.

[fair iron]

Pretty much.

[ocean robin]

Yes in Frenchie talk you say that.

"je me suis levée depuis"

[viscid cape]

Good night @ocean robin the fox

[ocean robin]

Hehe.

[fair iron]

Je sais, Flappy, mais en anglais on dirait "I have been awake since [...]". ^^

[whole rapids]

Flappy HAS ARISEN

[ocean robin]

AH.

T'as mis un bon temps à écrire ça lul

[placid heath]

Baguette?

[fair iron]

Ouais. ^^

[ocean robin]

j'en peux plus

[placid heath]

Fromage? ._.

[ocean robin]

Memes are everywhere.

[whole rapids]

Mignon

[placid heath]

Tu es un meme toi-meme?

[ocean robin]

Baguette au fromage?

Ben euh, je pense, yep.

[placid heath]

Fromage, Fromage. Baguette, Baguette, Omelette.

[remote ermine]

Rattatoile?

(That movie with Rats)

[ocean robin]

Wow dat typo. 👌

[fair iron]

Dors bien, Flappy.

[cold vessel]

Donde esta la biblioteca?

[placid heath]

Vamos a la playa?

[pine ginkgo]

FRERE JACQUES

[ocean robin]

Wow Casca corrected himself. 💯

[pine ginkgo]

DORMEZ VOUS

[ocean robin]

LMAO WHAT

[remote ermine]

Veliz Navidad

[dire sentinel]

same

[fair iron]

I accidentally hit the Enter key. ^^

[ocean robin]

LOL

[grand seal]

And a partridge in a pear tree

[ocean robin]

Solet dang that was gold

[fair iron]

I love you right now, Jawzie. ❤

[grand seal]

[placid heath]

Every time Sol recites a song he turns caps lock on. I just have to imagine someone shouting song lyrics at his PC... :D

[ocean robin]

LOL

[pine ginkgo]

yes

of course

singing requires

using your voice

[grand seal]

I imagine Luna shouts all the lyrics.

[ocean robin]

AU CLAIR DE LA LUNE

[grand seal]

I have no trouble imagining this.

[ocean robin]

LALALALAH

[placid heath]

🌝 la lune

[pine ginkgo]

ALOUETTE

[fair iron]

I like to picture Solet shouting the lyrics to "Non, je ne regrette rien".

[ocean robin]

GENTILLA ALOUETTE

[placid heath]

🥖 avec 🌜 est bien

[ocean robin]

LMAO CASCA

[pine ginkgo]

ALOUETTE

JE TE PLUMERAIS

[grand seal]

I actually live near a lake called Alouette.

[ocean robin]

JE TE PLUMERAIS LA TÊTE

hahahha

[fair iron]

I think it's time that I suggest heading to #other-languages. ^^

[ocean robin]

ok solet and flops duo now

true

[grand seal]

ONE MORE TIME NOW

[ocean robin]

which one could we do

ummmmm

[grand seal]

Shiver my timbers, shiver my sail

[pine ginkgo]

WHAT

SHALL

WE

DO

WITH A DRUNKEN

SAILOR

[grand seal]

I'M A LUMBERJACK AND I'M OKAAYYY

[ocean robin]

I DUNNO

WHAT

[grand seal]

I SLEEP ALL NIGHT AND I WORK ALL DAY

[pine ginkgo]

WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH A DRUNKEN SAILOR

WHAT SHALL WE DO WITH A DRUNKEN SAILOR

EARLY IN THE MORNING

[placid heath]

lol jawzie

[grand seal]

THROW'M IN THE BRIG WITH THE CAPTAINS DAUGHTER

[placid heath]

that monty python song

[ocean robin]

OH MY GOD THIS EVENING IS GOLD

[grand seal]

SHAVE HIS BELLY WITH A RUSTY RAZOR

[ocean robin]

WHAT

[placid heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7n5mEmXJo

[grand seal]

THROW'M IN THE LONGBOAT TILL HE'S SOBER

[ocean robin]

Pardon me, are you Aaron Burr, sir?

[grand seal]

That's depends

who's asking?

[ocean robin]

Oh sure, sir!

I am Alexander Hamilton, I've been looking for you.

[grand seal]

I'm getting nervous

[ocean robin]

hehehe

[grand seal]

You missed

'I'm at your service, sir'

[ocean robin]

yes 😦

Now Flops go to slep.

[fair iron]

[ocean robin]

[grand seal]

I may have punched him, it's a blur, sir. He handles the financials?

You punched the bursar?

...yes.

[whole rapids]

has Flops mastered the genitive?

[cold vessel]

TIL it's not "burser"

[grand seal]

nüp

[ocean robin]

Goddamit now I want to do a duo with Solet it could be gold-like

[grand seal]

bursar

[fair iron]

That would be amazing, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

Pferd, oh my.

[grand seal]

I'd record that and listen to it every night.

[ocean robin]

LOL

[fair iron]

She sure is getting close, Pferd!

We're all very proud.

[whole rapids]

Good, good.

[grand seal]

To remind me that I should really study harder

[ocean robin]

[whole rapids]

Flops is being nutured well.

[ocean robin]

Nutured?

[grand seal]

neutered?

[whole rapids]

Soon ready to be harvested

[ocean robin]

wat does that mean

AAAAAAH

[whole rapids]

care for and protect (someone or something) while they are growing.
"Jarrett was nurtured by his parents in a close-knit family"

[grand seal]

Because neutered and nurtured are very different things.

[whole rapids]

I used it a bit figuratively

[grand seal]

No. We know. You just spelled it wrong.

😉

[whole rapids]

n0

I never spell words wrong except when I do

[ocean robin]

Solet come here for a sec.

[fair iron]

Etre nourrissant, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

Wow that doesn't have sense at all.

[whole rapids]

I can't neuter her, that would prevent getting more stock

[grand seal]

At least you didn't say groomed. Because that's when I'd nope the fuck out of here.

[whole rapids]

groom her nice fur

[grand seal]

make sense

[ocean robin]

In France it could be "care about/care of" I have no other translation than that

[grand seal]

not have 😃

[ocean robin]

But "être nourrissant" damn

But thanks for the thought Casca. 💯

[fair iron]

I tried. ^^ ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grand seal]

Nourish me, captain.

[fair iron]

Nurture is the way you lovingly care for and raise a baby, Flappy.

[grand seal]

[ocean robin]

Mmmh.

[fair iron]

No idea if there's a French term for it.

[ocean robin]

In French you have an idiom for that.

[grand seal]

As opposed to drop-kicking which is the opposite of nurture.

[ocean robin]

"Être une maman/papa poule".

[grand seal]

And not how you should raise a child, generally.

[fair iron]

So just to be a parent?

[placid heath]

Being a mother chicken?

[ocean robin]

Means that you're almost too protective for your child.

[fair iron]

Oh.

A mother hen. ^^

[ocean robin]

I have no idea, there's no french term for that.

Yeah lol

[whole rapids]

éduquer?

they'll be a word for it

[ocean robin]

Don't think so too

[whole rapids]

oh well, another word to add to your internal vocabulary

[ocean robin]

🤔

[whole rapids]

maybe it's more figurative in French

[pine ginkgo]

https://clyp.it/cgynti1l

[ocean robin]

Oh my gid that translation

[pine ginkgo]

for you flapssofs

[fair iron]

So the French would just say to raise, interesting.

[ocean robin]

OH MY GOD

[whole rapids]

same origin as "to elevate"?

or just looks like it

[ocean robin]

[grand seal]

I don't believe that's you, Luna.

Not enough shouting.

[ocean robin]

OMG BEAUTIFUL

[placid heath]

We need more anger and fury Sol :P

[pine ginkgo]

give me a moment

[ocean robin]

ITS BEAUTIFUL

Dat accent 👌

[pine ginkgo]

https://clyp.it/pfvvtrwp

that may be

[ocean robin]

WOOOO

[pine ginkgo]

to your extended pleasure

[grand seal]

YES

[ocean robin]

OH MY GOD

STARWORTHY

THAT IS BEAUTIFUL

[grand seal]

That's more like it

[placid heath]

That sounds more angry yup

[whole rapids]

Flappy https://i.gyazo.com/9beedea5789077b5f3af3b7324672e2a.png

guess "norture" isn't used in French any more

[ocean robin]

Wot.

Solet, I'll do mine tommorow.

See you everyone.

[placid heath]

Bye

[pine ginkgo]

i wish i could sing tho

then i could sing hamilton

🤔

[ocean robin]

OH YES

[fair iron]

Go to bed, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

WILL TRY THIS TOMMOROW AS WELL

yes casca yes.

[fair iron]

^^

[grand seal]

Singing competition?

[pine ginkgo]

you don't wanna hear me sing :(

[grand seal]

Oh, but maybe I do.

[fair iron]

I, for one, would be delighted to hear you sing, Solet.

If you'd be comfortable doing so, that is.

[whole rapids]

I would use your voice to soothe me to sleep, like a lullaby

[grand seal]

I'll sing if you do.

I'll give you some Hamilton even

[pine ginkgo]

i warned you

EHEHE

[pine ginkgo]

can't upload to clyp when the recording is over 5 mb

without an account

and then the recording dies

https://clyp.it/qfqnl1ix?token=c3ad099578f660609158e8ff5ec7cf49

here

ehehehe

you forced my hand

tehehehe

i fucked up some parts

🤔

i blame clyp

man that was probably the worst recording 🤔

whatevs

[sudden panther]

Weeeeeeeee, we just had a power outage.

[quasi merlin]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Fun.

[fair iron]

Powerless, stranded, scared. One Arrem's tale of survival.

[thick charm]

Starring:
Brad Pitt as "Arrem"
Johnny Depp as "Casca"
Matt Damon as "Chuck"
Robert De Niro as "Base"
Arnold Schwarzenegger as "Himself"

I'd watch it

[sudden panther]

Needs more Falco.

[placid heath]

Arrem's tale of a power outage: Vienna not calling
Enough Falco?

[sudden panther]

Vienna not calling. Sounds like a real horror story. 😱

[fair iron]

Johnny Depp as me? Not bad. 🤔

[quasi merlin]

@sudden panther Sims is great, isn't it?

[sudden panther]

Loooooooooooool. Yes, yes it is.

[cold vessel]

Anyone got a sentence to translate? 😃

[valid ice]

Try and use the word Autofensterhäkelmütze

Which is A hat to cover toilet paper sitting in a car

[pine ginkgo]

uh

no?

it isn't

[unkempt flower]

Wat

[cold vessel]

Autofensterhäkelmütze beudutet nicht einen Hut zu Bedecken Toilettenpapier das in einem Auto sitz, sondern einen Hut für das Fenster des Autos 🤔

[shy bobcat]

@valid ice what you wrote says "car window crochet hat" 🤔 has nothing to do with your "translation"

[cold vessel]

(corrections, please)

[fair iron]

*bedeutet | *zum Bedecken | *Toilettenpapiers

[cold vessel]

Thanks 😄

[valid ice]

Nah, we learned about it in German class today Solet

Some song by a german guy who also sings in french

[cold vessel]

@fair iron Can you explain why "Toilettenpapier" should be genitive?

[fair iron]

Alternatively, insert a von.

[...] zum Bedecken von Toilettenpapier.

*sitzt.

[cold vessel]

Why did I use the imperative 🤔

So it's kinda like "for the purpose of the covering of the toilet paper"?

[fair iron]

Yep.

[cold vessel]

I find it slightly confusing that zum Bedecken Toilettenpapiers works then. Why isn't it zum Bedecken des Toilettenpapiers?

Is it because it's not definite?

Ie. it's more like "for the purpose of the covering of toilet paper"?

[fair iron]

Oh, wait, I messed up.

Either zur Bedeckung Toilettenpapiers, or zum Bedecken von Toilettenpapier.

[cold vessel]

Why is it that the former requires the noun and the latter the gerund?

[fair iron]

Not sure, actually.

[cold vessel]

Hmm, okay. Thanks again!

[glass hare]

Lol this book costs $0.67 on kindle

[proven cedar]

which book

[glass hare]

I forgot

already

there's no german books in this library :<

only inglis translations

[brazen gale]

hey guys, I am not related to this video in anyway, I just came across it on youtube and it really surprised me. link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C839V0en0dI&feature=youtu.be

this guy is 24 years old and speaks 8 different languages. EIGHT! Seriously, he is quite successful

[minor heart]

meh

Weird languages

I wish I could be fluent in 5

[cold vessel]

I'd be happy with 3

Or 2 really, not exactly fluent in English

[shy bobcat]

I heard an english W in german 😷

in that video

his weil sounded like while in english

[placid heath]

Werry gud! Ze plan is fortshreiting. Wärri well!

[shy bobcat]

^

[placid heath]

Sänk ju för träwelling wiff ze Deutsche Bahn

[shy bobcat]

yeah

[lost dagger]

is andy warhol heino?

[lunar urchin]

Andy Warheino

[lost dagger]

the chili's all mushy now

[lunar urchin]

mmmhm, mushy chili

now you need something crispy with it and it will be perfect

[lost dagger]

you're right

[lavish saddle]

@nocturne spruce @opal sequoia

[opal sequoia]

[lavish saddle]

Cheesecake!!

[opal sequoia]

Did you taste it?

[lavish saddle]

about to,

candles are lit and a relative called quq

it's great :D

[opal sequoia]

Aw. ☕ 🍰

[unkempt flower]

I see cheesecake!

[valid ice]

That looks delicious Kelsey 😵

[lavish saddle]

😄 Thanks, it is pretty good. It's not as solid as a normal cheesecake, it's more fluffy

[mild cosmos]

I approve of cake

sigh. Leftover amalgamations usually seem to end up being weird. Today I'm eating noodles with tuna salad, corn, and tomato sauce.

Needs salt

[lavish saddle]

That seems like a flavor overload haha

[mild cosmos]

I try my best not to be picky and it sorta seems like nobody else is willing to eat leftovers. :/

mixing them together may not have been the best idea though

[lavish saddle]

🤔 Dunno, but it doesn't sound too good mixed together

My family often did leftover days and pulled all of the old stuff out

Not gonna cook today, fridge is full of leftovers x)

[mild cosmos]

Sei nicht wie ich und alles zusammen essen

Ich habe Starcraft remastered preordered

bis jetzt habe ich noch nicht gespielt

[sudden panther]

I'm worried about the fact that there's ketchup next to that cake. 😛

[lavish saddle]

it stays on the table so I don't have to find it at dinner time 😄

or you can just imagine that red stuff on the top is ketchup 😛 whatever suits you

Yum, ketchup and cream cake

[mild cosmos]

Oh Gott wie schrecklich

[lavish saddle]

But dun forget, it's ''Premium ketchup'' 😂

[mild cosmos]

Und das kommt von einem, der gefällt Käse und Marmelade Sandwiches

[lavish saddle]

Who knows, maybe someone likes ketchup and cream cakes 🤔

and meh, I can imagine cheese and jam

we eat breaded, baked cheese with riebisel maramlade

😋

[sudden panther]

Ahahaha nice. 😂

[mild cosmos]

Mit Marmalade? Wahrscheinlich lecker. :D

[lavish saddle]

Very popular here 😄

[twilit garden]

Don't make me hungry again, Kelsey 👀

[lavish saddle]

Huehue 😄

[mild cosmos]

das scheint geil zu sein. 😄

[lavish saddle]

That stuff makes me hungry just looking at his tho :c

Sry, Nemo q-q

[twilit garden]

Nah, don't worry - i need to get into town to buy some stuff anyway, but i don't want to 😑

[lavish saddle]

I don't have anything for dinner tonight at home

I don't wanna go out either

q_q

[sudden panther]

But Nemooo, food is goooood.

[mild cosmos]

Heute habe ich ausgefunden, dass unsere Kaffeemachine kann zwei Kaffees zusammen machen

Natürlich trinke ich die beide

[twilit garden]

I just need to buy milk - and it's hard to convince yourself to get up for that

[lavish saddle]

lol

Oh, just for milk :c darn

[sudden panther]

Solution: buy a cow and never run out of milk again.

[twilit garden]

I'll just milk your memes

meme milk ®

[mild cosmos]

buy enough bales of hay to feed a cow instead!

certainly not as expensive as milk

[twilit garden]

RETURN THE COW! SUE THE VENDOR!

[mild cosmos]

Die Kuh ist bald ein Haustier geworden

leider, Kuhe scheißen ganz viel

[twilit garden]

meinst du sie sei beinahe ein Haustier geworden?

[mild cosmos]

is that sentence a decent translation for "The cow will quickly become a pet"? because that's what I was trying to say

[lavish saddle]

🤔 so you did mean soon?

[twilit garden]

"ist...geworden" is a past tense, not the future 😉

[mild cosmos]

"bald"was my attempt at indicating that something would happen in the near future. I'm sure it's not right, but I haven't really figured out the future tense in German yet

[lavish saddle]

well, bald would be right then I think

[twilit garden]

Die Kuh wird bald ein Haustier werden.

Futur I: conjugated form of werden + infinitive form of a verb at the end

[mild cosmos]

@twilit garden danke schön. das ist sehr nützlich zu wissen!

und es ist doch einfacher als ich habe erwartet

[hot cloak]

*und es ist doch einfacher, als ich erwartet habe

[pallid kelp]

fml I just had to have a guy speak English to understand that he was here to read the electricity metre <.<

fljdhs dfskdhjfjksdf ablesen!

bitte?

djksfjksdhf sdfhdskjfh ablesen!

[pine ginkgo]

gg

[pallid kelp]

fucking dialects I swear to god

[whole rapids]

I had someone like that as well

asked him to speak slower and it was fine

well, first he spoke a word every a second, not that slow m8

[viscid cape]

"Entschuldigen Sie, ich möchte die Elektrizitätsanzeiginstrumentapparatus überprüfen

WAS HABEN SIE NICHT VERSTANDEN

[mild cosmos]

well, I'm screwed

[ocean robin]

"Krypti will Flapssy ein paar von Sätze zu übersetzen, obwohl er keine Hilfe nicht liefert."

look i translated, idk about that, i want to put a n on "Sätze" omg

[toxic urchin]

Hi screwed

[ocean robin]

how are you

Gotta go.

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin This is the wrong chanel

Oh

[ocean robin]

[ancient spade]

That's actually something I'd like to know

[ocean robin]

I went here because it's quieter

[viscid cape]

You should post on #general

Oh ok

😂

It's almost correct

We'll fix it when you come back

[ancient spade]

Like, how do you say "X wants Y to do something"

[pine ginkgo]

almost correct?

wow

[viscid cape]

Shhhh

[sudden panther]

Keine Hilfe nicht liefert 🤔

[viscid cape]

"He don't give no help, brutha"

And she meant leistet

I'm sure

[sudden panther]

It's what you say that counts, not what you mean. 😛

[pine ginkgo]

you didn't do any nuthing , arrem

[unkempt flower]

???

[ocean robin]

wot.

Almost correvt you say

[viscid cape]

Yus

Well one thing

[ocean robin]

the end of the sentence.

[viscid cape]

In German, if the infinitive clause has a different "subject" than a main clause

Then you can't use the infinitive construction

[ocean robin]

Awww.

[viscid cape]

You can't do like English and say I want X to do something

Because you're switching subjects

You need to say I want that X does something

[ocean robin]

OH

Ich will, dass [...]?

[viscid cape]

Yes

[ocean robin]

Oooooh.

[viscid cape]

Try it again with this structure

[ocean robin]

Sure thing wait.

[thick charm]

would you mind copying the original sentence for me, Krypti?

Can't find it

I'm blind

[ocean robin]

"Krypto will, das Flappy ein paar von Sätze zu übersetzen, obwohl er keine Hilfe nicht liefert" �omg help me for the end of the sentencr

[viscid cape]

Of course not dear

[ocean robin]

it's not here

[viscid cape]

like Krypti wants Flapssy to translate some sentences, although he doesn't provide any assistance.

[ocean robin]

like Krypti wants Flapssy to translate some sentences, although he doesn't provide any assistance.

LOL

dat timing

[thick charm]

Right so first things first

Flappy, there's a difference between dass & das. Do you know about those two?

[pine ginkgo]

she ought to, after last time

🤔

[thick charm]

Just making sure

[hot cloak]

Natives unite, let's help Flappsy

[ocean robin]

Das = before a noun dass = beofre a verb

I don't know how to explain that literraly but

[hot cloak]

Das is an article whereas "dass" is a conjunction for subordinate clauses

[thick charm]

yup

You can't use an article in that case, since there is no "das" to refer to in the "Krypto will," part.

[hot cloak]

I suggest you read up on consecutive clauses

[ocean robin]

wow I totally misunderstood

👌

[thick charm]

It's a little weird since both das & dass can translate to "that" in English given the right context.

[ocean robin]

Yep.

[thick charm]

But only use an article to start a relative clause if there's anything to refer to in the main clause. For example "Das Buch, das ich lese."

So, now that that's mostly out of the way, I suggest you look at the case "Flappy" should be in in the subordinate clause.

[ocean robin]

Oki dokie.

[thick charm]

Which one do you think it should be?

[pine ginkgo]

EVERYONE

[ocean robin]

wat solet

[pine ginkgo]

just translate, flappsy

[ocean robin]

o-okay

[pine ginkgo]

don't get distracted too much

[ocean robin]

just what was that

[viscid cape]

Luna you've clearly disturbed the learning process

[ocean robin]

Wooo lol I forget to put another s on das

[thick charm]

Oh wait you just forgot?

I don't believe you

[ocean robin]

Yeah, I intended to write dass

[thick charm]

Okay I believe you

[pine ginkgo]

i don't

but i believe chuck

[thick charm]

[viscid cape]

And believing is transitive

So

@ocean robin Continue

[ocean robin]

okay then lemme correct dat

[pine ginkgo]

and all other mistakes, please

[ocean robin]

oh god how

[thick charm]

There are some more, one of which has to do with what Flappy is doing in the subordinate clause.

[ocean robin]

wanted to add dative on "some sentences"

[thick charm]

Which is what I was getting at earlier.

[ocean robin]

then said nah

[pine ginkgo]

flappsy

whenever you do something

have a reason for doing it

don't do it intuitively, because you haven't learned enough