#general-2

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ocean robin
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mmmh wait then

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Das Buch, das habe ich gegeben or das Buch, dass ich gegeben habe?

pine ginkgo
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what you think

ocean robin
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The second feels better thinking_cat

pine ginkgo
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(spoiler: they way you wrote it, both are wrong)

ocean robin
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dang i thought you were going to say that

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mmmh where did I go wrong, did I forgot subordinating once in the first sentence?

pine ginkgo
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look closely

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and tell me the differences beween both sentences

ocean robin
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Well at the second I did subordinating while the first I didn't

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and uuuh

pine ginkgo
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look closely

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focus

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compare word to word

ocean robin
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wait, is das on position 0?

minor heart
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You all playing that translator game?

ocean robin
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I don't think so though thinking_cat

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yus Dac

pine ginkgo
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well, for now

minor heart
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If I wasn't in school I'd play it

pine ginkgo
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just tell me ALL the differences

minor heart
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:c

pine ginkgo
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between both sentences, flappsy

ocean robin
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mmh

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First the first have das and the second dass

pine ginkgo
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... why?

ocean robin
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I don't know, I hesitated between the 2.

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mmmh

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I just forgot that "das" replaces the book righto

lavish saddle
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bwuah, you're stlll going at this?

ocean robin
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Yes owo

lavish saddle
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x-x the das one is right

ocean robin
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Solet says it's not.

lavish saddle
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but what you wrote isn't completely correct

ocean robin
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You mean the whole sentence?

lavish saddle
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the part that stems from ,das

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what kinda word order would it have?

ocean robin
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whoa, there is a case over there?

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Don't tell me das is position 0 or subordinating. kappa

lavish saddle
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One of those is correct

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which do you think?

sudden panther
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Oooh Kelseysause is being the local bully now. 😮

lavish saddle
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nepSweat It takes my everything to not just type the answer

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But it's a better learning experience

pine ginkgo
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yeah

sudden panther
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What's the sentence? Scrolling is hard man.

lavish saddle
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Das Buch, das habe ich gegeben or das Buch, dass ich gegeben habe?

pseudo trail
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The answer is 42 actually

pine ginkgo
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sometimes you just wanna scream the answer

lavish saddle
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is what we've come to so far

pine ginkgo
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flappsy is basically learning about relativsätze on the fly

ocean robin
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yes

lavish saddle
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the one up further wasn't this close, but she has been working on it

opal sequoia
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The full sentence is this: "The book I gave you for your birthday is my favourite, although the ending of the story is very sad."

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But right now we're just working on: "The book I gave you for your birthday is my favourite"

lavish saddle
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So, which is it flappy?

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position 0 sentence or subordinate

ocean robin
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owo

sudden panther
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Oh well I don't see why you're working on that. It's quite easy. You just say Das Buch, das - nah memes, I'm not giving out the answer. 😄

ocean robin
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Wait. Isn't a thing that you learnt to me like for "das [...], das + a case"?

lavish saddle
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lmao

ocean robin
lavish saddle
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arrem you troll

sudden panther
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That's what I'm here for. nr1

ocean robin
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buf what case was it goddamit

lavish saddle
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What's your question, Flappy? o.O

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we're working on word order

sudden panther
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What case was what?

ocean robin
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mmmh how to say it

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AH.

lavish saddle
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I gave you a hint that it's either Subordinate clause or a 0 position sentence

ocean robin
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I want to say that is position 0...

lavish saddle
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Das Buch, das...is what we have

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try writing a sentence with it

pseudo trail
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what is position 0?

lost dagger
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me

ocean robin
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LOL

lavish saddle
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aber das buch ist gut

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aber is position 0

ocean robin
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yes

pseudo trail
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ah

ocean robin
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mmmh

lavish saddle
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so, try writing it in a sentence

pine ginkgo
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chriskun is a good weeb

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never knew before

ocean robin
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we knew that already

lavish saddle
ocean robin
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Mmmh so wat Kelsey? I must do wat now?

lavish saddle
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try writing you sentence

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with the 0 position used

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Das Buch, das

ocean robin
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oh yeah

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"Das Buch, das ich habe gegeben"

sudden panther
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Whom?

lavish saddle
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Does this sound right to you?

ocean robin
lavish saddle
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I think the sentence order is wrong

ocean robin
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I forgot the dir. kappa But I think there's something else.

lavish saddle
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try writing it with subor ^^

ocean robin
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Nooo, don't tell me it's subordinating D:

lavish saddle
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hehe

ocean robin
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"Das Buch, das ich gegeben habe"

lavish saddle
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okay...now where is the book going to?

sudden panther
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Did you forget something this time? 😛

ocean robin
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...

lavish saddle
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Whom?

ocean robin
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yeeeah

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let me rephrase that

sudden panther
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Don't rephrase it, just add the missing word.

ocean robin
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"Das Buch, das ich dir gegeben habe"

lavish saddle
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bingo

ocean robin
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God that sounds so wrong.

fair iron
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💯.

ocean robin
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Oh.

fair iron
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And yet it's so right.

sudden panther
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🍰

ocean robin
lavish saddle
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😄

pseudo trail
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Huzzah!

ocean robin
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Second part nooooow

sudden panther
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Now, why did you give me the book?

fair iron
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Was it an analysis book? Arrem loves those.

ocean robin
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...now I realize I should have chosen weil?

sudden panther
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I sure do. 😍

lavish saddle
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no

ocean robin
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Oh good thing.

sudden panther
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Where would you put a weil? 🤔

lavish saddle
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now we work on your other part

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ist mein Lieblingsbuch/Lieblings, obwohl das Endes der Geschichte sehr traurig ist

sudden panther
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Oi. Kels.

ocean robin
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yes

sudden panther
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The birthday part.

lavish saddle
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🤔 I didn't know it was supposed to have a Birthday part

ocean robin
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I forgot translating this. O.o

lost dagger
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happy birthday 🎉

ocean robin
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genetive error in the end of the sentence

sudden panther
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The full sentence is this: "The book I gave you for your birthday is my favourite, although the ending of the story is very sad."

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^Base

ocean robin
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Goddamit I forgot birthday.

lavish saddle
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haha

opal sequoia
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Yes, Flappy forgot the birthday part in her first attempt. 😄

sudden panther
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Dammit Flops. Focus!

lavish saddle
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well, get trying 😄

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use schenken instead of geben

ocean robin
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oooh

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So as a gift?

lavish saddle
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yes

ocean robin
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oki dokie

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"Das Buch, das ich für dein Geburtstag dir geschenkt, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl des Ende die Geschichte sehr traurig ist." upside_cat

lavish saddle
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well...

ocean robin
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wait that "dein"

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mmh

lavish saddle
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what would be better than für dein?

placid heath
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WESSEN Ende? Das Ende ... Geschichte ;)

lavish saddle
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How would a German say happy birthday? 😄

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as a hint

ocean robin
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oh gott

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I looove how I learnt that at school and forgot it right away.

lost dagger
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häppy birtday?

lavish saddle
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Alles Gute...

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missing a little bit there

ocean robin
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oh wait.

placid heath
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Häppi Börsdejj tu juuu is probably the inofficial german birthday song.

ocean robin
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zum Geburtstag.

lavish saddle
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yes, try using that

ocean robin
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"Das Buch, das ich zum Geburtstag dir geschenkt, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl des Ende die Geschichte sehr traurig ist."

lavish saddle
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okay, now you're missing a verb

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and a pronoun is in a wrong spot

ocean robin
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oh great

lavish saddle
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but it's much closer

sudden panther
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Well, at least we know that she's typing it all out from scratch now. 👌

fair iron
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^^

sudden panther
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But focus, Flops. Or 🔪.

fair iron
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And you use the wrong case near the end.

ocean robin
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D:

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Ah.

lavish saddle
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yes, we're focusing on the middle right now

sudden panther
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We'll get to that™.

fair iron
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And the wrong article.

sudden panther
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GET TO THAT™, CASSIE

ocean robin
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I thought it was genetive. :<

lavish saddle
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just focus on the middle rn x)

ocean robin
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oh yeee

fair iron
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^

lost dagger
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the genetiv is in the wrong spot

lavish saddle
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we'll get to it

ocean robin
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oh god wat

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so dat middle eeer

lavish saddle
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so, which pronoun is in the wrong spot?

lost dagger
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the wrong article was genitivated

ocean robin
lavish saddle
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"Das Buch, das ich zum Geburtstag dir geschenkt, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl des Ende die Geschichte sehr traurig ist."

ocean robin
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Wait, in the "das ich [...]?"

lavish saddle
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the ... part

ocean robin
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I am 100% sure it's dir. kappa

lavish saddle
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yes

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das ich dir

ocean robin
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oh

lavish saddle
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and the missing verb?

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the sentence isn't perfect hehe

cold vessel
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😂

ocean robin
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OMG HABE

lavish saddle
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haha

fair iron
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^^

sudden panther
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OMG HABE INDEED

ocean robin
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YED

lavish saddle
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okay, write it in

fair iron
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MAY GOD HABE MERCY.

sudden panther
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Now give us the whole sentence again. AND PAY ATTENTION OR UR DED

fair iron
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^

ocean robin
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NO ARREM PLOX

fair iron
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I agree up until the dying part.

ocean robin
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Ahhh.

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Better that.

opal sequoia
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Pay attention or ur.

ocean robin
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Before, charging.

sudden panther
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After, discharging.

ocean robin
fair iron
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I guess Arrem was correct about the dying part.

sudden panther
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ew that's awful. you should feel bad

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Also why do you have airplane mode on? 🤔

lavish saddle
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I was curious about that too

cold vessel
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What the hell is that font

honest torrent
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Eww that font

placid heath
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Comic Sans Revamped

ocean robin
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LOL

sudden panther
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The confused teenage girl font™.

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We're used to that part.

ocean robin
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LMAO

honest torrent
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You might be right

lavish saddle
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(I...had that font on my S5 when I was still in highschool...FeelsBadMan )

honest torrent
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feelsbadman

fair iron
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^^

sudden panther
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See. They all grow out of it. Eventually. By the time they're 65 at most.

honest torrent
ocean robin
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ANYWAY SENTENCE.

sudden panther
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YES, SENTENCE.

honest torrent
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Sentenced to what?

ocean robin
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WHERE WERE WE.

sudden panther
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Space.

lavish saddle
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Sentenced to fixing her sentence

sudden panther
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We were at the part where you write the whole sentence again.

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Doing your best not to forget anything.

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And then read it again before sending, to make sure that you didn't forget anything.

opal sequoia
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If anyone else wants to play, I can give them a sentence, so let me know if you want one.

sudden panther
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And after you've read it, read it once more, just to be extra sure.

ocean robin
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"Das Buch, das ich dir zum Geburtstag habe geschenkt, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl des Endes die Geschichte sehr traurig ist. "

gott genetive is wrong ;_;

cold vessel
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@opal sequoia Hit us

ocean robin
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WAIT. I USED WRONG VERB.

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facepalms.

opal sequoia
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Oh, what is your knowledge of German, henbruas? I forget.

lavish saddle
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okay...uhm

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why is habe there?

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gegeben is ok

fair iron
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^

lavish saddle
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geschenkt is better

ocean robin
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and yes, facepalms x2

fair iron
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Syntax, Flappy. ^^

ocean robin
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geschenkt habe

lavish saddle
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kk

fair iron
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Yep.

lavish saddle
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is mein Lieblingsbuch is fine

sudden panther
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No. Not geschenkt habe. Geschenkt habe makes no sense. Whole sentence. Go. mmlol

ocean robin
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...

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kk Arrem lol

sudden panther
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You always mess it up when you're rewriting, so you're not allowed to take shortcuts. 😛

lavish saddle
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obwohl des Endes die Geschichte sehr traurig ist

ocean robin
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...genetiv

sudden panther
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^doesn't exist

fair iron
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^

lavish saddle
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so why des Endes?

fair iron
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^

sudden panther
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@opal sequoia can you find that explanation of yours. ❤

lavish saddle
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and die Geschichte?

fair iron
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^ ^ ^

sudden panther
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And then immediately go to bed if you haven't already.

lavish saddle
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Doesn't the end belong to the story and not the story to the end?

fair iron
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Let's go through them in order.

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The story belongs to all of us. ❤

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I digress, carry on.

opal sequoia
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I just woke up. 😢

sudden panther
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Oh, you did sleep. Good.

cold vessel
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@opal sequoia Something around this level is probably fine, or maybe something slightly easier

sudden panther
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the end of the story
the meme of the man
the i really don't know of the i have no idea
The thing with the of the is what takes the genitive.

cold vessel
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Hard to say because my grammar is better than my vocabulary

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At least I think to think it is xD

opal sequoia
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Another way to write it is: "The story's end"

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Kinda makes it obvious then if you can put it in that form.

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Okay, henbruas. I'll see what I can do for you. But part of this task is actually learning to correctly look up words in the dictionary even if you don't know them.

lavish saddle
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I think she ran away from the genetiv

sudden panther
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Oh no. Is this the part where we ban her?

ocean robin
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I am going to eat.

lavish saddle
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Find out on the next episode

fair iron
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Sentence first, eat later.

sudden panther
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To be continued...

lavish saddle
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You're very very close to the end D:

sudden panther
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We can torture help hen in the meantime.

lavish saddle
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makes me feel evil

opal sequoia
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@cold vessel "I know we're already late, but I'm not going to the party until I find my keys and my phone."

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A straight-forward one to start with.

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And I can make it harder next time.

fair iron
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This is the end
Hold your breath and count to ten
Feel the earth move and then
Hear my heart burst again
[...]

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If hearing someone's heart burst once isn't surprising enough, this person hears her heart burst twice. How does that even work.

lavish saddle
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these are fun

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give me the harder one, base 😮

opal sequoia
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Okay. 😄

fair iron
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How about a really difficult sentence? ^^

opal sequoia
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Well it's not going to be too bad.

cold vessel
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That last part I'm not at all sure about, but: "Ich weiß, dass wir schon spät sind, aber ich gehe nicht zum Party bis ich meine Schlüssel und mein Handy finden"

opal sequoia
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"Suddenly the man-shaped arrangement of meat became animated, raising up on two arms made of game hens and country bacon, planting two hands with sausage link fingers on the floor." Kelsey.

fair iron
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*rising up.

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^^

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Wait.

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🤔

opal sequoia
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It's from a novel. That's how it's written.

fair iron
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What an interesting novel. 😄

opal sequoia
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It's one of my favourites!

fair iron
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What's its title?

pine ginkgo
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‘test‘

opal sequoia
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John Dies at the End.

pine ginkgo
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test

fair iron
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That title sounds like a spoiler in and of itself.

sudden panther
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test completed

opal sequoia
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Yeah. 😄

sudden panther
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Does a guy named John die or is there a guy called "John Dies" at the end? 🤔

opal sequoia
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One of the main characters is named John.

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Okay, henbruas, what's the verb at the end of your sentence?

pine ginkgo
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One lonely day, after eons have passed, a small little something awoke amidst nothingness. It tried to stretch its appendices, but it didn't know how far it could, since the void around the little thing covered all its senses.

cold vessel
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Woops, it should be "finde", right?

opal sequoia
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Yeah, that's correct.

pine ginkgo
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go base!

opal sequoia
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That's for me? 🙀

pine ginkgo
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maybe :o

cold vessel
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@opal sequoia Was that the only mistake?

pine ginkgo
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you have creative freedom, base

cold vessel
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From those excerpts that book seems really odd

pine ginkgo
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doesnt need to be literal

opal sequoia
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Okay, I'll try it.

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Oh, only the one I gave Kelsey is from the book though.

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The others I just made up.

cold vessel
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Oh sorry, I thought SoletLuna was quoting it too

pine ginkgo
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i quoted myself

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dont worry

ocean robin
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Oki I am bak.

fair iron
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Yay. ^^

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Now, where did we stop?

ocean robin
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The last part.

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gentive

lavish saddle
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I'll save mine for after

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still working on it 😄

fair iron
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gentive also doesn't exist.

lavish saddle
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can you grab the last form of the sentence you had flapp?

fair iron
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^

ocean robin
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yus wait

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"Obwohl des Endes die Geschichte sehr traurig ist." let's go straight. Genetive. kappa

lavish saddle
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so what you have written is of the end's the book

whole rapids
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genitive

fair iron
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^

ocean robin
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wait, yeah lol

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that should be on the other way around

sudden panther
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can you grab the last form of the sentence you had flapp?
Form, not part. Full sentence pls.

lavish saddle
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okay, put the full sentence together

fair iron
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You can do it, Flappy. ^^

obsidian ingot
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hi, möchte jemand zum Voicechat kommen?

sudden panther
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Casca, go. Flops go.

ocean robin
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"Das Buch, das ich dir zum Geburtstag habe geschenkt, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl des Ende die Geschichte sehr traurig ist."

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That was the whole sentence.

sudden panther
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Try again.

ocean robin
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Yes. Because cases at the end.

sudden panther
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No, there's something off with the first part.

fair iron
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^

ocean robin
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Oh my god.

fair iron
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You unfixed something from earlier. 😛

ocean robin
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hoyl

sudden panther
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Well if it makes you feel better, if "unfixing sentences" ever becomes a profession, you could earn a fortune. ❤ dontmurdermecasca

ocean robin
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I-I don't see it FeelsBadMan

sudden panther
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..., das ich dir zum Geburtstag habe geschenkt,...

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Look there.

ocean robin
fair iron
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Why would I murder you, Arrem.

ocean robin
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What was the English sentence for this again?

lavish saddle
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You just have a sentence ordering error

fair iron
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^

ocean robin
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OH YEAH AGAIN

fair iron
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Syntax again.

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^^

ocean robin
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AHH

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WHY

lavish saddle
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and the cases still

fair iron
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^

ocean robin
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goddamit

lavish saddle
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you can do it ^^

sudden panther
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We're ignoring the cases for until we get the first part right. 😄

ocean robin
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let me fix that fokken habe

sudden panther
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Awww look she's using 'fokken'.

fair iron
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Always replace rude words with less rude words. ^^

ocean robin
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yes fok

honest torrent
ocean robin
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"Das Buch, das ich dir zum Geburtstag geschenkt habe, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl des Ende die Geschichte sehr traurig ist."

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FINALLY.

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Now cases kappa

fair iron
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Yes, now cases.

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Only the last clause left.

ocean robin
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oh fok genitive

lavish saddle
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I already told you

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what you have written there

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of the end's the book

ocean robin
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yus that is wierd

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the end's the story

honest torrent
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the des would be correct in austrian kappa

ocean robin
honest torrent
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Just pretend your sentence is austrian kappa

lavish saddle
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RemWink but not in hochdeutsch

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it's missing too much to be austrian

honest torrent
opal sequoia
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"An einem einsamen Tag, vor dem Äonen verstrichen war, erweckte inmitten Nichts ein kleines Etwas. Es versuchte, die Anhängsel zu strecken, aber es wusste nicht, wie weit es gehen könnte, da das Nichts, herum das Etwas, alle seine Sinne völlig bedeckte."

ocean robin
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holy

fair iron
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What was the original passage, Base?

ocean robin
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a long one

lavish saddle
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(tbh, I can't do the one you gave me 😄 )

opal sequoia
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"One lonely day, after eons have passed, a small little something awoke amidst nothingness. It tried to stretch its appendices, but it didn't know how far it could, since the void around the little thing covered all its senses."

placid heath
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Äonen, nicht Aönen :D

opal sequoia
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Oh that's okay, it was quite a silly one.

honest torrent
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danach is wrong

lavish saddle
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I have a translation if you wanna see it

opal sequoia
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Oh.

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You're right.

lavish saddle
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I worked on it with my bf

fair iron
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Go ahead, Kelsey. ^^

lavish saddle
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Plötzlich erwachte die menschförmige Flesichmischung zum Leben, sich aufrichtend mit Armen aus Hühnerfleisch und Speck, mit Würstchenketten-Fingern am Boden.

opal sequoia
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Can it be davor?

placid heath
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Was lese ich da? oO 🐔 🥓

lavish saddle
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Was a crazy one

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I couldn't do it myself 😂

ocean robin
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what is that

lavish saddle
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a scary monster

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that I hope to never see in my life

placid heath
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Scary or not, I'd eat it

ocean robin
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The more I read it, the more I understand it and I am more confused

placid heath
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Me too, flappy :D

honest torrent
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That must've been the weirdest sentence I have ever tried to translate

ocean robin
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Agreed owo

lavish saddle
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"Das Buch, das ich dir zum Geburtstag geschenkt habe, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl des Ende die Geschichte sehr traurig ist.'' fix it!

sudden panther
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it had a chicken head with duck feet, and a woman's face too 🎶

fair iron
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That sounds like a challenge. :]

ocean robin
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Wat does that mean. thinking_cat

honest torrent
fair iron
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Anyway, your sentence, Flappy.

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Fix it. ^^

honest torrent
#

Has anybody ever had those? Are they any good? Do you cook them or eat em raw ?

placid heath
#

Geflügelwurst

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Warum

ocean robin
#

yes but how casca

honest torrent
lavish saddle
#

which part do you think gets genitive, flappy?

ocean robin
#

.>

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The story's end

fair iron
#

[...] the end of the story [...].

#

Start by translating that.

ocean robin
#

Wait.

#

Let's stop being confused and translate that Flops.

lavish saddle
#

💯

sudden panther
#

Good idea. Should have thought of it sooner. 👌

ocean robin
#

That's what Arrem would say.

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mmmh I am afraid to get it wrong again mmlol

lavish saddle
#

The more times you get it wrong, the closer you get to getting it right

sudden panther
#

W23rqwfaskdf 3yeah wot she sez

ocean robin
#

...that's philosophical tat

#

good, Queen in my ears for hype. Now behold:

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"Des Ende von die Geschichte" kappa

pine ginkgo
#

🤔

sudden panther
#

Banned.

pine ginkgo
#

what

#

how the hell did that happen

ocean robin
#

yes

lavish saddle
#

you're giving the wrong thing the wrong case

ocean robin
#

i knoww solet dat is a disaster

sudden panther
ocean robin
#

Again?!

lavish saddle
#

you haven't changed anything

#

this one is like....of the end's from the story

cold vessel
#

dem Ende sein Geschichte 😄

lavish saddle
#

no x-x

opal sequoia
#

Flappy, maybe try to go from the start with this part. What is the nominative of each of these nouns, firstly?

ocean robin
#

Err

sudden panther
#

___ Ende, ___ Geschichte

cold vessel
#

Wait, I inverted it too 🤔

sudden panther
#

Fill in the blanks with the correct definite article for the nominative form.

ocean robin
#

👀

#

But... wait.

fair iron
ocean robin
#

AH. Nominative form.

fair iron
#

So what would it be, Flappy? ^^

ocean robin
#

Die Geschichte. Das Ende.

fair iron
#

Yes.

lavish saddle
#

genau

ocean robin
#

wooo

fair iron
#

Which becomes?

opal sequoia
#

Okay, now... which of these is the "owner" in this situation?

fair iron
#

^

ocean robin
#

The story.

fair iron
#

Yes.

opal sequoia
#

Okay, and which case does the owner get?

sudden panther
#

Hm. We could also try just ignoring the "of the story part" at first. Get the "end" right first.

ocean robin
#

So der Geschichte?

pine ginkgo
#

oh, i noticed i may have taken the wrong plural for a word in the text, base

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🤔

fair iron
#

Yes, Flappy.

pine ginkgo
#

i didn't even know it had two pluarls

fair iron
#

And end?

pine ginkgo
#

🤔

ocean robin
#

🤔

fair iron
#

What case?

#

Which article?

ocean robin
#

Nominative?

opal sequoia
#

Which one, Luna?

ocean robin
#

tell me it's wrong because it is

pine ginkgo
#

i wrote appendices

sudden panther
#

Complete your answer.

fair iron
#

^

pine ginkgo
#

but apparently, what i meant was appendages

#

and both their singular is appendix

#

:(

sudden panther
#

"What case? ✅ What article?"

ocean robin
#

Das Ende?

fair iron
#

Yep.

opal sequoia
#

Oh yeah. 😄

fair iron
#

Now finish that sentence!

opal sequoia
#

I did look at that and thought something was weird.

ocean robin
#

Aww, I just swapped those 2. :(

fair iron
#

No you didn't.

#

You had des.

pine ginkgo
#

i wanted to have the meaning of "Anhängsel"

fair iron
#

Which doesn't fit in anywhere. ^^

pine ginkgo
#

and not "Anhang"

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:D

opal sequoia
#

Makes sense.

fair iron
#

Feel free to message me the sentence, Solet, and I'll correct it, ere Base translates it.

pine ginkgo
#

but now i know that appendix can have two different plurals

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🤔

honest torrent
#

des bast scho

opal sequoia
#

What's the difference though? I don't know the nouns.

#

As in, the German versions.

pine ginkgo
#

Anhang is something like what you put in your email as a fail

sudden panther
#

Now translate Doppey's sentence, Flops. mmlol

ocean robin
#

wot.

honest torrent
#

ayy

pine ginkgo
#

Anhängsel is more like... something that... is there, possibly involuntarily

honest torrent
#

Bayern ist ein Anhängsel von Deutschland

opal sequoia
#

Aha.

pine ginkgo
#

Like if you have wanna go meet some friends, but your mother tells you to take your little sister with you

honest torrent
#

lmao

pine ginkgo
#

you could call your sister an Anhängsel

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:)

fair iron
#

Finish the sentence, Flappy. Show us the complete translation. ^^

ocean robin
#

"Das Buch, das ich dir zum Geburtstag geschenkt habe, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl der Geschichtes das Ende sehr traurig ist." kappa

pine ginkgo
#

lol

sudden panther
#

Dammit Flops.

ocean robin
#

goddamit

#

wher

placid heath
#

arrem 💬 banned ?

sudden panther
#

even though of the story the end is sad?

lavish saddle
#

x-x flappyyy

ocean robin
#

b-but

fair iron
#

Flappy, no. :(

lavish saddle
#

they were in the right order

fair iron
#

^

lavish saddle
#

just wrong cases

ocean robin
#

facepalms

fair iron
#

Change their order.

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^^

lavish saddle
#

and no ending for feminine gentitive in the noun

ocean robin
fair iron
#

Try again. 😃

#

What Kelsey said. ^

#

Don't change the spelling of either noun.

pine ginkgo
#

anyway

#

i wanted Anhängsel to more have the meaning of Gliedmaßen - extremeties

#

if you get me, base

#

but i failed you :(

ocean robin
#

"Das Buch, das ich dir zum Geburtstag geschenkt habe, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl das Endes der Geschichte sehr traurig ist" plox tell me it is right

opal sequoia
#

Yeah, I got the idea when I translated it, but I just didn't know what the words were anyway. thinking_cat

fair iron
#

💯

#

🎉

lavish saddle
#

why endes?

sudden panther
#

Casca

#

no

#

bad

ocean robin
#

no.

fair iron
#

Oh.

opal sequoia
#

Since they are listed quite similarly in the dictionary.

fair iron
#

Nooooooo.

ocean robin
#

whai.

fair iron
#

😭

ocean robin
#

Whaiiiii.

fair iron
#

So close!

sudden panther
#

Why are you adding random suffixes now? 🤔

fair iron
#

Don't change the spelling of either noun, remember?

ocean robin
sudden panther
#

das Ende is in nominative. Nothing gets any suffixes in nominative. Or accusative. Or dative singular if you're not ancient.

fair iron
#

You already know the answer, now just type it out. 😃

ocean robin
#

fok last time

pine ginkgo
#

anyway base

placid heath
#

'Anhängsel' klingt sehr nach Verniedlichung von 'Anhang' (Appendix im nicht-medizinischen Sinn)

pine ginkgo
#

this would be my translation

lavish saddle
#

Somethings get suffixes in accusative

#

in the male case

pine ginkgo
#

es ist abstrakt, korea

#

:D

ocean robin
#

"Das Buch, das ich dir zum Geburtstag geschenkt habe, ist mein Lieblingsbuch, obwohl das Ende der Geschichte sehr traurig ist."

#

GOD.

sudden panther
#

Correct! You took only 2 hours and 36 minutes. 🎉

lavish saddle
#

lol

ocean robin
#

LMAO

fair iron
#

Yay, Flappy! Well done. ❤

honest torrent
#

Nice

placid heath
#

Mir fällt kein beispiel ein in dem anhängsel nicht durch anhang ersetzt werden kann 🤔

ocean robin
#

I was going to say "oh well why not another one" but if it takes 2hrs again

opal sequoia
#

Thanks, it was a good sentence actually, Luna.

ocean robin
#

"Tooks"

opal sequoia
#

And good work Flappy!

fair iron
#

You're always welcome to try another sentence.

ocean robin
#

Flaps 2017

#

Yeah, let's do that.

sudden panther
#

Quick. Pop quiz on genitive. Translate the door of the car.

pine ginkgo
#

"Eines einsamen Tages, nachdem Äonen vergangen sind, wachte ein klitzekleines Etwas in Mitten des Nichts auf. Es versuchte seine Anhängsel/Extremitäten auszustrecken, aber wusste nicht wie weit, denn die Leere um das kleine Ding deckte alle seine Sinne ab."

ocean robin
#

👀

sudden panther
#

You have one attempt. Make it count.

fair iron
#

^

placid heath
#

Hm. Stimmt. Da würde ich aber auch nicht Anhängsel sagen :D

#

Gliedmaßen, oder so

pine ginkgo
#

pff

#

abstrakt denken!

ocean robin
#

HOLY.

placid heath
#

Nee, ich denk in Implementierungen, abstrakt bekommt nix hin

pine ginkgo
#

:)

sudden panther
#

4 ISNT ABSTRACT ENOUGH

ocean robin
#

Die Tür des Auto? upside_cat

pine ginkgo
#

wat

sudden panther
#

Is that your final answer?

ocean robin
#

No. kappa

opal sequoia
#

Hmm, thanks, Luna. And do you see any particular issues with my translation? Like anything from yours that would be specifically better to use?

sudden panther
#

Good. Because it's wrong. 😛

lavish saddle
#

I think you're missing a small piece

ocean robin
lavish saddle
#

pretty close tho ^^

#

you can figure it out

obsidian ingot
#

hallo, möchte jemand zum Voicechat kommen?

lavish saddle
#

der has no ending on the noun in Genitive

sudden panther
#

Masculine and neuter nouns get an additional -(e)s in genitive. That's why it's der Geschichte (without any suffixes), but des Auto___.

ocean robin
pine ginkgo
#

well

opal sequoia
#

Klitzeklein is a pretty nice word I've never heard before.

ocean robin
#

Don't tell me des Autos...

pine ginkgo
#

why did you translate after as " vor dem"

sudden panther
#

I won't tell you anything. You're supposed to tell me the answer. 😛

pine ginkgo
#

it's not something you must know

#

but yeah

#

since little and small kinda mean the same in german

#

and you don't want to say "kleines kleines" :P

sudden panther
#

So? Does 'des Autos' sound good enough for you?

ocean robin
#

"Die Tür des Autos" then.

fair iron
#

Final answer?

ocean robin
#

God that is stressing me as fok.

fair iron
#

Are you confident with your choice?

ocean robin
#

Let's say yes.

lavish saddle
#

sudden panther
#

Good. Now find the mistake.

pine ginkgo
#

flapps, you gotta learn to be confident

fair iron
#

^

placid heath
#

die Autotür? :D

pine ginkgo
#

also "herum" is not a preposition

ocean robin
#

I am going to go off for a bit.

sudden panther
#

I specifically requested "the door of the car". 😛

placid heath
#

des Autos Tür?

sudden panther
#

dem Auto seine Tür mmlol

ocean robin
#

wat

honest torrent
#

die Autotüre.

pine ginkgo
#

des Autos Türe

opal sequoia
#

Well, I wrote it as nach first, then I messed up and wrote it like danach, then I was like "How do I say it like before something instead?" so I just wrote it like "vor dem" because I don't know many time words.

fair iron
#

Arrem is a meme, Flappy.

#

Don't worry.

ocean robin
#

Ahhh.

lavish saddle
#

you got it right ^^

pine ginkgo
#

nachdem is the conjunction for after :)

sudden panther
#

You're a meme. 😦

ocean robin
#

Anyway, see you in 20 mins. waevoli Gotta do a thing.

opal sequoia
#

And I also thought about writing it like "An einem einsamen nach Äonen Tag".

#

Can that be done?

fair iron
#

Till then, Flappy. waevoli

pine ginkgo
#

nope

opal sequoia
#

Oh, I see.

pine ginkgo
#

well

#

it could if you reorder it a bit

cold vessel
#

@opal sequoia Do you have another sentence?

pine ginkgo
#

and add a bit more einfo

#

like

#

"An einem einsamen Tag nach (etlichen) Äonen"

#

would work

opal sequoia
#

Oh sure! "Did you get the empty boxes from your father's store yet? We'll need them tomorrow." henbruas.

#

Thank you.

pine ginkgo
#

we killed flapssy \o/

sudden panther
#

wooooooooooooooooo who's next

opal sequoia
#

Seems henbruas.

cold vessel
#

@opal sequoia What kind of store?

opal sequoia
#

A shop.

#

Any kind of shop is fine.

cold vessel
#

Hast du noch die leeren Kisten aus dem Laden deines Vaters geholt? Morgen werden wir sie brauchen.

ocean robin
#

By the way Solet, about my self-esteem.

#

Mine is really low. :(

cold vessel
#

I don't know if that's how genitives work with possessive pronouns 😬

ocean robin
#

ok everyone is ded

fair iron
#

Why is your self-esteem so low, Flappy?

ocean robin
#

I have no idea.

viscid cape
#

@ocean robin You're the most beloved creature in this discord 🤔

ocean robin
#

When I think about something, I am half-sure that is wrong.

viscid cape
#

@fair iron Is your guardian

fair iron
#

^^

ocean robin
#

And I can't say at 100% "ok I am right"

fair iron
#

It's okay to doubt. However, it's better to be confident and fail than it is to be uncertain and succeed. 😃

fossil glen
#

That's also me, sometimes the things I'm most sure of turns out to be wrong 😢

ocean robin
#

I agree a lot on that. ^^

pine ginkgo
#

if you had a reason to be sure

#

it's alright

#

then you know you can change the reason

#

and you won't do that mistake again

ocean robin
#

yep

pine ginkgo
#

but if you don't know why are right

#

or why you are wrong

#

it's worse

ocean robin
#

And mostly that's my case when I am wrong.

pine ginkgo
#

it's fine to do things intuitively,

#

but that only works out correctly, if you have a basic understanding to make those calls

lavish saddle
#

That's normal for everyone flappy (:

ocean robin
#

Well, I am mostly a person who acts on her gut feeling

#

If my instincts think so, I do like that

pine ginkgo
#

that works if you just want to speak the language

#

but not if you want to understand the language

ocean robin
#

Yeah.

#

I have seen that.

#

And now I must sleep. I have opened my eyes since 16 hours now.

cold vessel
#

@opal sequoia I posted my translation

lavish saddle
pine ginkgo
#

base is ded

ocean robin
#

Thanks for the help you all.

cold vessel
#

Anyone else feel like checking it then?

pine ginkgo
#

well

#

would it suprise you

#

if i told you

#

it's not correct

#

wait

#

you edited it!

#

sneaky

cold vessel
#

I did 😄

pine ginkgo
#

well

#

in this context

#

noch isn't applicable

cold vessel
#

Yeah, I wondered about that. What should I use? "bisher"?

pine ginkgo
#

what you mean is schon

cold vessel
#

Oh, really?

#

I see

#

Kinda hard to tell the difference between all of dict.cc's suggestions for "yet"

opal sequoia
#

Yeah, schon and noch and similar things are things best learned by examples.

#

Sorry btw I'm getting ready to leave soon.

cold vessel
#

No problem

hot cloak
#

random finding that keeps happening to me

opal sequoia
#

So if you were to say... Have you done it yet? You say schon. But if it's more like: Do you still need to do it? then it's noch.

hot cloak
#

at night, after speaking german all day, writing in german, being in class in german

#

I sometimes here, or writing back home, find certain english words just... bizarre...

#

i could not for whatever reason figure out how to spell "receipt"

#

i was writing "rezipt?, reciept?" etc

opal sequoia
#

Oh yeah, I've been getting a bit uncomfortable with the ie/ei pronunciation in English lately.

hot cloak
#

and again today I was trying to write "Article"

#

and I was writing "articel? artecel?"

cold vessel
#

English ortography makes 0 sense

hot cloak
#

i feel like this bizarre-feeling is actually good... its showing somewhat of an internalization of german

minor heart
#

Hmm

#

I should do some translation games

cold vessel
#

It's fun

lost dagger
#

I do the same thing with article too Mitch

cold vessel
#

But it makes me realize how much I need to work on vocab

lost dagger
#

I always second guess myself

viscid cape
#

Why don't the nerds here develop a bot that will propose sentences to be translated and give points to the first who writes them correctly?

lost dagger
#

I used to read a ton when I was younger and never had problems spelling anything

sudden panther
#

That's normal for everyone flappy (:
Psh normal. I know everything. All of it.

cold vessel
#

@opal sequoia That makes sense, thanks

lost dagger
#

then I stopped reading and now I can't spell at all

pine ginkgo
#

ahahha

#

who needs spelling

#

heheh.. eh

#

:(

hot cloak
#

@viscid cape i've written bot suggestions and posted them but they don't get implemented :p

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

@viscid cape example:

@client.command(pass_context=True)
async def trans(ctx, args, message):
    arr = '{}'.format(args).split('->')
    t = Translator(from_lang=arr[0],to_lang=arr[1])
    await client.say('```' + t.translate(message) + '```')
sudden panther
viscid cape
#

😂

#

@hot cloak That's worse than German for me :v

hot cloak
#

@sudden panther i've posted in bot channel and the generals haha

pine ginkgo
#

nice place

sudden panther
#

^Nobody every reads the bot channel since it's really just #botspam and #general flows pretty quickly. 😛

hot cloak
#

@viscid cape it translates using google trans for example:

!trans de->en "this text will be translated"

pine ginkgo
#

that sounds awful

#

and terrible

hot cloak
#

@pine ginkgo yeah its terrible, but it quickly gets the gist of large chunks of text

#

i have it in a bot for a different discord

pine ginkgo
#

it's terrible

#

so no

viscid cape
#

^ Don't expect positive thoughts

#

😂

hot cloak
#
@client.command(pass_context=True)
async def members(ctx):
    i = 0
    for server in client.servers:
        for member in server.members:
            i += 1
    await client.say("There are **" + str(i) + "** members in the server!")
#

for seeing how many members are in the server ^

pine ginkgo
#

and you wonder why your suggestions don't get implemented

#

lol

hot cloak
#

😄

whole rapids
#

Where would the bot take the sentences from that would give a suitable difficulty to each level?

lost dagger
#

how about a command that shows how many discord users are not a member of this server?

whole rapids
#

You'd have to have a list of them somewhere

hot cloak
#

@whole rapids what?

cold vessel
#

@hot cloak Please, use string formatting

whole rapids
#

btw, did Base and/or Kelsey translate their sentences?

fair iron
#

To see how many members this server has:

#

server

viral thunderBOT
#
Information about German Learning and Discussion
Name

German Learning and Discussion

ID

221708975698083841

Created

1 year and 3 days ago

Members

2975 (371 online, 158 idle, 2398 offline)

Owner

Wormic#1302

Roles

Moderator, Native German, Level A, Level B, Level C, Learning German, Tatsumaki, BOTS, Get Jinxed, 0x1Bot, DiscordServers.com, No Nick, Session Holder, Muted, Trusted, Gaming, Study Buddy, Nerd

fair iron
#

Tada. ^^

hot cloak
#

server

viral thunderBOT
#
Information about German Learning and Discussion
Name

German Learning and Discussion

ID

221708975698083841

Created

1 year and 3 days ago

Members

2975 (369 online, 159 idle, 2399 offline)

Owner

Wormic#1302

Roles

Moderator, Native German, Level A, Level B, Level C, Learning German, Tatsumaki, BOTS, Get Jinxed, 0x1Bot, DiscordServers.com, No Nick, Session Holder, Muted, Trusted, Gaming, Study Buddy, Nerd

hot cloak
#

interesting

lost dagger
#

Nearly 3000 members!

whole rapids
#

You suggested a function for the bot where it gives people sentences to translate

hot cloak
#

can't believe its only been 1 year

whole rapids
#

it'd have to have a good source

hot cloak
#

is there a way to check how old a user is?

lost dagger
#

Can you take those from a site like taotoba or whatever it's called?

hot cloak
#

joined Mitch

lost dagger
#

like Clozemaster does

hot cloak
#

:c

#
# JOINED
@client.command()
async def joined(member : discord.Member):
    await client.say('{0.name} joined in {0.joined_at}'.format(member))
fair iron
#

>info [user].

hot cloak
#

info Mitch

viral thunderBOT
#
Information about Mitch
Name

Mitch

Nick

None

Tag

8142

ID

256495053948715010

Joined

248 days and 13 hours ago

Created

272 days and 1 hour ago

Roles

Level B

pseudo trail
#

info Kuhvogel

viral thunderBOT
#
Information about Kuhvogel
Name

Kuhvogel

Nick

Kuhvogel

Tag

9266

ID

221354327602757632

Joined

7 days and 20 hours ago

Created

1 year and 4 days ago

Roles

Level A

fair iron
hot cloak
#

haha wow I'm almost as old as the server

whole rapids
#

You could, yeah, but taotoba sentences are always short

pseudo trail
#

Oh yeah sorry

lost dagger
#

Hmm

#

Wonder if there are any "better" sentence banks for this then

fair iron
#

Hehe, you're younger than the server. ^^

hot cloak
#

did I miss shitpost suggestions for my bot

#

nope, just me again

#

I wanted >trans en->de "text"

#

help dict

viral thunderBOT
#
>[lookup|lk|translate|trans|dict] <word> <lang_in> <lang_out>

Allows you to look up words you don't know.
Example lookup: >lookup laufen de en

Commands:
  info List all supported languages.

Type >help command for more info on a command.
You can also type >help category for more info on a category.
hot cloak
#

i mean thats kind of the same thing

#

yes.

opal sequoia
#

Ummm.

#

Excuse me.

hot cloak
#

whats up base

opal sequoia
#

One of the channels got loose and was threatening to cause havoc.

hot cloak
#

oh wew

fair iron
#

Also, Mitch:

for member in server.members:
            i += 1```
is another way of saying:
```python
len(server.members)```
^^
opal sequoia
#

@whole rapids Oh, we translated, yeah. 😄

sudden panther
#

And for server in client.servers: is saying for every server that the bot is in, not just the current one.

whole rapids
#

oh, okay, didn't notice

opal sequoia
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"An einem einsamen Tag, nachdem Äonen verstrichen war, erweckte inmitten Nichts ein klein Etwas. Es versuchte, die Anhängsel zu strecken, aber es wusste nicht, wie weit es gehen könnte, da das Nichts, herum das Etwas, alle seine Sinne völlig bedeckte."

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And Luna's for comparison:

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"Eines einsamen Tages, nachdem Äonen vergangen sind, wachte ein klitzekleines Etwas in Mitten des Nichts auf. Es versuchte seine Anhängsel/Extremitäten auszustrecken, aber wusste nicht wie weit, denn die Leere um das kleine Ding deckte alle seine Sinne ab."

whole rapids
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thanks 👌

viscid cape
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Where the hell did that extract come from lol

whole rapids
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aus Lunas Kopf

viscid cape
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I should've known 😂

placid heath
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A Untermieter is someone who rents part of a property (most of the time single rooms) from a Mieter (who himself rents from a Vermieter)

lost dagger
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I think an Untermieter would be a sublessee in English maybe?

grand seal
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I'd call that a renter, honestly.

lost dagger
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but isn't that a Mieter?

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an Untermieter is somebody who rents from a renter, if I understand correctly

hot cloak
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Correct

grand seal
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I'd call both a renter. The person renting the building and the person renting from the renter. O.o

lost dagger
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I suppose that's true.

hot cloak
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So like you rent a room from someone who's renting a house kinda thing ? 🤔

lost dagger
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Yeah

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how do i know if it's a date? i feel like "this is definitely not a date" was just a test

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how do i pass

opal sequoia
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Go in for the kiss.

lost dagger
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good ideas as always

hot cloak
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Ask them for a kiss but bring a bag of Hershey kisses just in case they react poorly to the question

lost dagger
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someone did that to a spanish exchange student i know and she was really confused because she hadn't heard of the candy before

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well they were like "would you like a kiss?"

hot cloak
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Good idea, poor execution lol

pallid kelp
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I feel that's an actual strategy candy producers use for naming stuff

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There's one type of chocolate in Italy which is called bacio. It's also an icecream flavour. upside_cat

hot cloak
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Interesting 🤔 do they taste good ?

pallid kelp
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Oh yeah. It's a mix of dark chocolate and hazelnut

hot cloak
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Oooo yum

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I wanna try it some time 😍

pallid kelp
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I think they also exist outside of Italy

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Try googling baci perugina and see if you've ever seen anything similar. They often remarket products internationally by changing their names

hot cloak
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I've never seen that specific brand, but we have similar ones here

pallid kelp
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The unfortunate thing is that the ingredients often vary country by country, and that's also true for how much it what type of sugar is used

hot cloak
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True

pallid kelp
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That's why a nutella milkshake find here in Germany is worse than one made in Italy, as I found out. :<
Nutella here is more sugary

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And I heard it's even more sugary in the usa

opal sequoia
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Nutella milkshake.....

hot cloak
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Oh wowzers

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And ours is hecka sweet

mild cosmos
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I'm glad nobody got hurt. This is easily the worst story I've read in German thus far

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a couple weeks ago like 20 tons of nutella and other chocolate products were heisted in Germany

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keep your eye out for black market treats

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I don't really like nutella though because of the bloody hazelnut flavor. I just can't enjoy it. Chocolate almond spread though, that's pretty much the epitome of human culture. leave me on an island with nothing but jars of that stuff, water, and a spoon, and I will happily die of dehydration after giving myself awful chocolate based diarrhea

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seriously though, what a shame about the palm oil. why does it have to be so smooth and delicious while at the same time consisting of at least 22% orangutan blood?

pallid kelp
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ah yeah, @sturdy shadow mentioned that to us lol. The Nutella heist

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and by us I mean me and mr berzi. I'm starting to behave like gollum

pine ginkgo
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who is mr berzi anyway

pallid kelp
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he lives inside me

pine ginkgo
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you wished

twilit garden
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i'm going to take that literally

sturdy shadow
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You mr berzi and gedyHD

hot cloak
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opened a german bank account today, in german

hot cloak
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why is there a shirtless, black metal Bruce Willis on their front page

pseudo trail
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That's hot

hot cloak
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look at that heart he's making. He's a hardcore dude, but he wants you to know he has a softer, gentile side.

pseudo trail
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gentile

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a softer, less jewish side

twilit garden
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🤔

olive valley
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smh

hot cloak
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here we go

minor heart
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I should read me more idioms or something since they help

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Reading in general helps

toxic urchin
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Reading in general2 helps too

whole rapids
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General reading also helps

hot cloak
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a less jewish side? @pseudo trail

pseudo trail
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yes

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a more gentile side

twilit garden
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what do you want to say with that?

pseudo trail
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he said "look at that heart he's making. He's a hardcore dude, but he wants you to know he has a softer, gentile side."

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I was making a pun?

pine ginkgo
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were you?

pseudo trail
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Yes, in fact I was 😃

twilit garden
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the only thing that i was getting from it was antisemitism

pseudo trail
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Well I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, I'll keep that in mind next time

twilit garden
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i still don't understand how that was supposed to be a pun

pseudo trail
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well

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I'm assuming they misspelt "gentle" and I ran with that

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But yeah I totally see how that could be taken the wrong way

twilit garden
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ahhh, i had to google the word "gentile" for that

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sorry for the confusion, but the word "Gentile" was not known to me ^^

pseudo trail
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It's fine lol

hot cloak
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i didn't know gentile ==/== gentle (i misspelled it)

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

twilit garden
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yeah, me neither

whole rapids
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I have a question, but it's about English, and it's bothering me slightly:

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Does it make sense to use "ilk" without having explicitly referred to something else beforehand but instead implying it? For example:

"His ilk are a disgusting lot."

Instead of:

"People of his ilk are a disgusting lot."

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the English server is a bit dead right now and ich brauche sofort Antworten!!

fair iron
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Go with the latter.

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I've only ever seen ilk prefaced by of.

pseudo trail
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ilk?

whole rapids
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oops, sorry, had to go away for a bit

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I meant more in the sense, does the first sentence sound like it would work? Or does it seem odd in some way?

fair iron
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Sounds uncommon, to say the least.

whole rapids
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@pseudo trail ilk means:

a type of person or thing similar to one already referred to.

fair iron
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It should work, nevertheless.

whole rapids
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it's a rare word

pseudo trail
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I've never heard that ever

whole rapids
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is English your native language?

pseudo trail
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yep

whole rapids
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hmm, maybe just the literature I read then

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okay, thanks, Casca, needed a second opinion

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will just do the first if I am being poetic

sudden panther
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@ocean robin test

ocean robin
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I only have mentions. The rest nada.

fair iron
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@torn latch I'm not sure if you were here when this happened, but in case you hadn't heard, the server recently celebreated its birthday. ^^

torn latch
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ohhh cool

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happy bday server x3

viral thunderBOT
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Thanks, you meme.

torn latch
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your welcome you meme

proven cedar
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early morning on all

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early morning for me anyway