general-2

[sudden panther]

we'll push that to the main bot today, much excite

[grave adder]

😮

[sudden panther]

That expression is 0 when either of the terms is 0.

So you covered one term. Now see what happens when the other term is 0. 😉

[grave adder]

Hell breaks out

[sudden panther]

Yes. It's a bit harder than the first one, but you can do it. 😛

[grave adder]

I hate trying to solve quadratic equations without a calculator in hand :<

[sudden panther]

We taught a 14 year old to solve those. You can do it too. 🎉

[grave adder]

Hmm, I seem to be in the same age group

Which is, of course, 5

Wait what

Are the other two intercepts non-integers?

Woops, gotta go for a while

[opal sequoia]

Yes.

No problem. I look forward to the answer though. ❤

[pine ginkgo]

you can write them in decimals if you like

heheh

[sudden panther]

Except if you do, you have to write all the decimal places.

[grave adder]

Back

And sure thing Arrem, I'll be here until the end of time 😄

I need a calculator to work out the root, though...

[opal sequoia]

No calculators.

[sudden panther]

Attention all math nerds.

[opal sequoia]

Wow.

[cold vessel]

How did you do the fraktur?

[grave adder]

How do I work out the root without a calculator, though?

[opal sequoia]

@sudden panther will explain how.

[grave adder]

@sudden panther Explain right now or else.

[sudden panther]

Use that babylonian method thingo.

😛

[grave adder]

What is a babylonian method thingo?

[sudden panther]

Well you see, you just apply this simple recursive formula infinitely many times.

[grave adder]

what the wHAT

WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION

[sudden panther]

A lovely formula that lets you calculate the root of k by hand.

[grave adder]

It... doesn't look lovely at all, but okay...

So, what do I do? Just plug in k and?

[cold vessel]

Guess a value for the square root of k

Then plug that into the right hand side of the lower equation

Then do that again with the result

[sudden panther]

(for x_n)

[cold vessel]

etc

[grave adder]

And x_n+1 is?

[sudden panther]

The next term in the sequence.

I'll write up an example.

[sudden panther]

That's taking the square root of 2.

x_0 is pretty much any random number you think would be a good approximation for the square root of 2. In this case I chose 2 to show that it works even if your guess is really shitty.
Then you take your x_0 and plug it into the formula to get your x_1. Then you take that x_1 and plug it into the formula to get your x_2. And then you keep repeating that forever for more precision.

[crystal delta]

oh it's official: #general-2 turned into #maths

xD

[sudden panther]

Bbut Catto, math = love ❤

[lunar urchin]

not yet officially, it's still named #general-2

next update maybe?

i'm glad to see you got it working tho

[opal sequoia]

❤

[sudden panther]

Also Sassy, for practice, try computing x_3 😂

[grave adder]

Ahh, I get it now.

Still doesn't look lovely, though 😦

[sudden panther]

Or at least write out the first step of the expression, since the resulting fraction is quite hairy. 😏

[opal sequoia]

Shave it.

[grave adder]

x_3 = 1/2 (1.141__6__ + 2/1.141__6__ ) ?

Sorry, couldn't make the recurring decimal thingy 😦

[opal sequoia]

That's okay.

[sudden panther]

Well you could have used fractions, but yeah!

[grave adder]

oke, danks!

[opal sequoia]

How did you do the decimals???

[grave adder]

Learning more maths in a German learning server than I could have in a single class at school 😄

[sudden panther]

And just to give you an idea of how accurate it is, that x_3 of yours is accurate to 5 decimal places. x_4 takes it up to 11. 😄

[opal sequoia]

With a calculator????

What's the point then?

[sudden panther]

You can divide by hand. 😛

They're all repeating at one point or another.

[opal sequoia]

True...

But...

[sudden panther]

Except x_4 has a period of 576. Wew.

[opal sequoia]

It's better to save it to the end.

[sudden panther]

Lel. x_5's period is 655856 and it's accurate to 23 decimal places. 👌

[grave adder]

Okay

This is more scary than I imagined

How do I solve 1/2 * (65/12 + 29/(65/12) ) by hand

😦

[sudden panther]

You err. Divide. 😂

[grave adder]

What is division

What is addition

What is life

[sudden panther]

Also to be serious for a second, no you wouldn't actually do that by hand. It's just a coolio trick. You'd just use a calculator. Or leave the poor root be.

[grave adder]

Oh, I'll take the latter!

Bye, root over 29!

[sudden panther]

Er sorry Sas, but th result most certainly doesn't contain the number

[grave adder]

what the

[tacit jay]

the answer is 5, btw

[grave adder]

What IS that

[sudden panther]

Seeing how you claim to have that in your result, you did something wrong.

That is the root of 29!.

[grave adder]

5?

Hmm, my other two answers came like this:
(3 + sqrt(29) )/2 and (3 - sqrt(29) )/2 😦

[sudden panther]

Why the 😦 ? 😛

[grave adder]

Wait what

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[sudden panther]

Nah, I didn't add tikz, sorry. 😛

[tacit jay]

aww

[sudden panther]

For some reason, it wouldn't render it properly. I'll look into it when I get the time.

[viral thunder]

Rendering Latex failed. See help if you think this is a mistake.

[grave adder]

So, how about we just leave the plus/minus thingy at that? I've had enough maths for a day x.x

And I need to get started on Bengali for tomorrow's exam ;;

[pine ginkgo]

huh?

[sudden panther]

The plus/minus thingy is just a shorthand for "the same expression twice, except you use a minus for one and a plus for the other one".

[viral thunder]

Rendering Latex failed. See help if you think this is a mistake.

[crystal delta]

o.O

[sudden panther]

Oi, please stop trying to break/abuse the bot.

[tacit jay]

okok

[snow trout]

@weary cypress I hope you're the right Yep! I heard of you through the general chat and wanted to say hi!

I also hope you've had a great day.

[opal sequoia]

@grave adder Oh, good work. I went to sleep so I didn't see your answer until now. ❤

[grave adder]

❤

[lunar urchin]

@hot cloak come here if it's too crowded in #general 😉

[hot cloak]

Ok ,thanks 😃

Is anybody here?

[opal sequoia]

Yeah.

[sudden panther]

Inb4 everyone comes here and it gets too crowded.

[lunar urchin]

it's multiple channels, usually for certain topics, and for all other stuff #general and #general-2 are here

[full falcon]

Hier ist es ein bisschen ruhiger ^^

[hot cloak]

ein bisschen ruhiger, ja das stimmt :).

thanks for explaining zwitschi 😃

[lunar urchin]

oh and there's of course the voice channels

[hot cloak]

I have seen this app before but I have to explore it more

Anyway where you come from?

[lunar urchin]

I'm in Switzerland

[hot cloak]

In or from ? :-D
You can really speak with so many languages?
Im from Czech Republic anyway.

[lunar urchin]

well, I am from Germany and know all the major varieties of German. But yes, there's four official languages in Switzerland and most Swiss know at least two of them.

where from Czechia are you?

[hot cloak]

Yea that the second nick of our country

Sounds like Chechnia

😄

[lunar urchin]

hehe

It was adapted as "official" recently if i remember correctly

from where in Czechia I was trying to ask tho 😉

[hot cloak]

Truth

[hot cloak]

they're not invading, they live here

[sudden panther]

Flipperflopper. Puzzle. When?

[ocean robin]

This one is too easy :<

@fair iron

DON'T TELL ME ARREM THAT YOU DIDN'T FIND IT

[sudden panther]

Writing it out on paper.

[ocean robin]

yes.

[sudden panther]

DO YOU EVEN CARE ABOUT TREES

[ocean robin]

BUT

DID YOU FIND IT

if you did tell meh, 2nd is going to be translated

[opal sequoia]

Wait...

The sister's age is 3/4 of the mother's age?

[ocean robin]

🤔 I don't have the text anymore, but maybe.

But DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT

THERE IS A THING WHO TELLS IT

[twilit garden]

are they 5?

[ocean robin]

^^

[opal sequoia]

Aha, I see.

[ocean robin]

Since Nemo already found it.

[twilit garden]

when the sister is twice as old and five years older

it would be mean if they had several sisters

[ocean robin]

The father is 35, the mother is 30, the sister 10, and "me" 5.

[opal sequoia]

Ohhh.

[ocean robin]

So 2nd puzzle.

[sudden panther]

Your puzzle doesn't ask about the parents though. 🤔

So there's just a lot of redundant information. 😅

[opal sequoia]

Yes, next puzzle. ❤

[sudden panther]

Also why would she be her sister's age in 5 years. 🤔 Are we talking to a ghost? 😱

[twilit garden]

they are all 0

solved

[sudden panther]

Brilliant.

[twilit garden]

(it would not work because of her sister being 5 years older though)

but still - there was an attempt 👍

[opal sequoia]

You got the right answer first though, Nemo! Good work.

[ocean robin]

"Cards numorated by 1 to 6 are aligned in this order. (will do photo) Move them that all those conditions are fulfilled :
1- The sum of the numbers of the row on the top must be lower by 1 for the numbers of the row on the bottom.
2 - The sum of the numbers of 2 cards at the right's colomn must be equal at 5.
3- The card number 4 must be immediately placed at the left of the card number 5.
4- The card number 1 must be placed in the left's colomn.

[sudden panther]

tldr man

[ocean robin]

tough puzzle over there

[sudden panther]

Got it.

[ocean robin]

whoa too fast for me

[opal sequoia]

Yes, I have solved the lovely puzzle.

[pine ginkgo]

that is pretty simple

[ocean robin]

wait too fast for meh

[opal sequoia]

You're simple, Luna. 😦

[sudden panther]

It's a game for kiddos, Solet, don't be too harsh. 😛

[pine ginkgo]

haha arrem

wait for later

[ocean robin]

By the way hai Solet.

[pine ginkgo]

:)

[ocean robin]

How can you have already sloved this

I just really know where 1, 5 and 4 are

oh and poor Casca

@fair iron

[opal sequoia]

How do you know where 5, 4 and 1 are, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

well

5 is in the middle. 4 is next to it.

5 can't be on the right car sum of the right colomn = 5.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, that's true. How do you know if the 5 is on the top or bottom?

[ocean robin]

🤔

I must find that first

[opal sequoia]

Aha. So if the cards on the right add up to 5, what are they going to be?

[ocean robin]

But colomn on the top = 10 and colomn on the bottom = 11

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, true.

[ocean robin]

And my brother made my 2DS fall and it lagged. Nice.

[opal sequoia]

😮

[sudden panther]

You can pretty much ignore hint #1. It only tells you the order of the rows.

[ocean robin]

Well, I can't find the place of the puzzle again.

😦

[sudden panther]

Place?

[ocean robin]

Yep, because Professor Layton has got a big mystery we must resolve, so yeah, places. Like investigating.

[sudden panther]

So. Have ye solved it?

[ocean robin]

Dang. I have made a mistake in my translation. I have just realized that. 😦

[sudden panther]

Dammit Flipperflopper!

[ocean robin]

"Cards numorated by 1 to 6 are aligned in this order. (will do photo) Move them that all those conditions are fulfilled :
1- The sum of the numbers of the row on the top must be lower by 1 for the numbers of the row on the bottom.
2 - The sum of the numbers of 2 cards at the right's colomn must be equal at 5.
3- The card number 4 must be immediately placed at the right of the card number 5.
4- The card number 1 must be placed in the left's colomn.

[sudden panther]

Solved.

[ocean robin]

I am almost...

[sudden panther]

almost done?

[ocean robin]

Yep.

[sudden panther]

How almost done are you on the scale from 1 to 6? 😛

[ocean robin]

Tell me if I am wrong.

5 Arrem, 5.

[sudden panther]

Good, Flappy, good.

[minor heart]

@hot cloak im learning it because it seems like a super Power

[hot cloak]

Ooooohh

Well, good luck is the only thing I can say

[opal sequoia]

I'm also learning Polish (although focusing on German for a while first).

[hot cloak]

Because it truly is a superpower

I can help with anything anytime

[ocean robin]

I SOLVED IT

[opal sequoia]

Thanks!

[minor heart]

Thanks!

[ocean robin]

FINALLY

[hot cloak]

Just saying

[minor heart]

Or

Dziękuję

[opal sequoia]

Congrats, Flappy.

[hot cloak]

Heee

Nmzc - Slang "word" for "nie ma za co" - you are welcome

[ocean robin]

@sudden panther

[minor heart]

Neat

[ocean robin]

DON'T TELL ME I AM WRONG

[minor heart]

Thanks

[hot cloak]

nmzc

[opal sequoia]

Perfect, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

YAY

[opal sequoia]

Where in Poland are you from, Konrad?

[sudden panther]

You're wrong. 😛

[hot cloak]

South Poland

[ocean robin]

WHAT

PLEASE GOD NO

[sudden panther]

Yes. That is in no way the answer to the question "How old am I?"

[hot cloak]

Cracow, a city 😛

[ocean robin]

LMAO ARREM I CAN'T ANYMORE

[opal sequoia]

Do you hear much German there, Konrad?

[sudden panther]

😂

Nah, it's correct.

[minor heart]

I know someone who lives by the German border

[hot cloak]

Tbh, not at all

[opal sequoia]

What about English?

[hot cloak]

Only school... and barely there

[minor heart]

He's gone for a month in Norway

[hot cloak]

English? Everyday

[opal sequoia]

Oh, interesting.

What about Russian?

[minor heart]

I think you'd hear russian the more east you go

[hot cloak]

Only some Ukranian, mostly Polsih with Ukranian accent

@minor heart Yup

[opal sequoia]

Cool.

[hot cloak]

@opal sequoia What about U

And u @minor heart ??

[opal sequoia]

I live in Australia.

[hot cloak]

Ooohh

U must be dying there

[minor heart]

Meanwhile I'm in America and we only speak bad English or even worse spanish

[hot cloak]

Cause of heat

[opal sequoia]

It's winter!

[minor heart]

Kentucky

[hot cloak]

Nvm

USA!

Awesome

[opal sequoia]

I hear a lot of languages when I go into the city.

But none in particular besides English.

Mostly Asian languages, I guess.

[hot cloak]

Cracow is the most popular city in Poland, filled with tourists but unfortunately almost only Enlglish

[minor heart]

Aww

I assume you picked up English fairly quickly?

Because so?

[hot cloak]

Me?

[minor heart]

Yea or is that just a silly bad guess

[sudden panther]

Dammit Base you turned #math back into #general-2 again. 😛

[hot cloak]

My English story is kinds different

kinda

So

[minor heart]

Oh

Oki

[hot cloak]

Lemme start

[ocean robin]

Don't worry Arrem

Puzzle #3 is coming

[opal sequoia]

It wasn't me, Arrem. 😢

[ocean robin]

True, poor Base.

Okay I have found a wierd puzzle.

[minor heart]

I'll take the blame but I didn't want to look through general cause I thought It was going fast

[hot cloak]

In my kindergarten (Deutsche Wort) there was an additional, paid English class. Even though my family was and kinda still is poor my parents signed me for this class. And it turned out that I can learn languages pretty fast. In primary school I fell in love with English. This love is unbreakable. THE END

[opal sequoia]

It's no problem, Dac.

Nice. English is pretty lovely.

Polish is also lovely though!

[minor heart]

English and polish are super powers

[hot cloak]

Polish is very... complex

[minor heart]

Yup

[opal sequoia]

Complex how?

[hot cloak]

Em

[minor heart]

Grammar, pronunciations, and figuring out which letter for which

[hot cloak]

There are exeptions from everything. Why do we even have rules tho

[opal sequoia]

Can you give an example?

[minor heart]

Like ó and o

[hot cloak]

No

[minor heart]

Ś and sz

[hot cloak]

That's easy

Still easy

[minor heart]

For English natives it takes time

[hot cloak]

ó and u is pronounced the same

[minor heart]

That's what I meant oopd

Thanks

[hot cloak]

rz and ż

the same

for ex:

morze and może

The first one is the sea and second one is maybe

like the word maybe

[ocean robin]

"In a country, a king lived there and his favorite hobby was to show the last objects he got.
The subjects of his kingdom are not able to buy the objects that the king have just received, and that for 1 month. Then, when the king is bored of his last object, the persons in the kingdom are finally able to buy the same object.
However, on one day, the king bought an object and had immediately ordered to all his subjects to buy it. What was this object?"
@fair iron

[minor heart]

The grammar is pretty challanging I've found

[hot cloak]

Yea, even for me

The cases

We have 7 cases

[thick charm]

@ocean robin The phone so he could call people at all?

[minor heart]

How old are you? jus wondering

[thick charm]

Wait, I'm not Casca

[opal sequoia]

Dw, it's not just for Casca.

And I agree on the phone idea.

[hot cloak]

@minor heart I'm 17, if this was adressed to me

[minor heart]

Nice same

It was

[hot cloak]

Nice

Btw

Anyone knows some German indie bands

Been trying to find something cool

No result

[vale magnet]

Mmm try Max prossa

[minor heart]

I dun know any

[vale magnet]

Die höcheste eisenbahn

[hot cloak]

Will check, thanks 😄

[sudden panther]

Wow. Only pinging Casca.

[hot cloak]

It's 10:50 PM. Should I grab a German textbook

Not sure

[ocean robin]

Casca said that he would like to be pinged for seeing the puzzles.

Don't be jealous. 😛

[thick charm]

Did we solve it

[ocean robin]

Yup. Chuck was right.

[thick charm]

ayy

I'm a certified genius

[ocean robin]

x)

Wait for the other puzzles. We're only 3/9.

[sudden panther]

Wow Chuck, did you go to genius school? 😮

[thick charm]

I did

Flappy just gave me my "Diplôme génie"

See? It's French, that means it's sophisticated.

[ocean robin]

PUZZLE N°4
After having tried to fold a paper, you remarked that one of the sides of the paper is longer than the other by 1 cm. (what the hell) Because you have a perfectionist nature, you fold again the paper, and you realize that, it's the other side which is longer than the other side by 1 cm.
Now that the two folds are now visible, find what is the distance between the 2 folds in mm.

seriously this one is simple @fair iron

ok found it

chuck did you find out

[sudden panther]

wot

[ocean robin]

arrem you didn't?

Come ooon this one is easy.

[sudden panther]

I'm having trouble parsing it. 😂

[ocean robin]

LMAO

[sudden panther]

How can one side be 1cm longer and then magically become 1cm shorter? 🤔

[ocean robin]

Because you fold it again, you silly.

[sudden panther]

Is there an image accompanying this? I'm really having trouble clearly visualizing the folding process. 🙄

[twilit garden]

me too tbh

[ocean robin]

well, I am going to see if I have it again

[fair iron]

Thanks for keeping me in the loop, Flappy. ❤

[sudden panther]

Because a 'fold' can be done in lots of different ways, and given that a paper has 4 sides, I'm not even sure how one side can be larger than the other. I assume it's referring to the opposites.

[ocean robin]

There Arrem, there.

[fair iron]

We can see that they are folded in different directions.

[ocean robin]

I HAVE SOLVED IT IN 20 SECS

DANG

[fair iron]

In fact, the fold is just turned over.

So the distance between the creases is 0cm, because there is only one fold.

[ocean robin]

No.

[fair iron]

Aw. ^^

[ocean robin]

It's not that.

[fair iron]

0.5cm then.

[ocean robin]

No.

[thick charm]

1?

just 1cm

[ocean robin]

Yes.

[thick charm]

oh

Guys I did it

[ocean robin]

I will explain to you of you didn't understand.

[thick charm]

Oh I did understand

Just had trouble visualising it

[twilit garden]

you can see the two folds in the picture

[ocean robin]

You fold the paper and it's 1 cm longer.

And then you fold it again and it's again 1 cm longer.

[fair iron]

Moral of the story: You're incompetent at folding.

[ocean robin]

Oh and Chuck, to be absolutely right, you should have said 10 mm. 😛

[sudden panther]

DAMMIT

[fair iron]

0.01m.

[sudden panther]

I WAS GONNA POINT THAT OUT

[thick charm]

yeah but I'm just that much of a rebel

[ocean robin]

BRAH ARREM

[thick charm]

brahrrem

[twilit garden]

0,1 dm

[fair iron]

^^

[ocean robin]

Puzzle n°5 incoming boiii

[fair iron]

🎉

[thick charm]

0.1 Deutsche Meisterschaften

[fair iron]

This is fun, glad I'm back.

[thick charm]

Someone call Schalke 04

[fair iron]

😄

[thick charm]

Schalke No Fear

[fair iron]

The longer Flappy types, the more I look forward to the puzzle.

[thick charm]

I know, right?

This is a good one, I can already tell

[fair iron]

If she falls asleep on the keyboard, I'd probably burst with excitement.

[twilit garden]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-hacker-webs-o0vwzuFwCGAFO

[thick charm]

Flappy you do know Discord has a 2000 character limit on messages, right?

[ocean robin]

"The elections are coming, and three candidates, that hate each other (nice) are presented. With the 3 candidates, the town has for 40 persons who can vote. To be elected, a candidate must have more votes than the two others. (i did not know that)
If all of the 40 persons vote once and there is no blank vote (french expression, means that you don't vote or that you put a unrelated thing on your vote) what is the minimal number of votes that a candidates needs for being certain that he'll win the election?

[fair iron]

Get Nitro, Flappy. That way you can type more.

[ocean robin]

no money 😦

[fair iron]

How many floating voters?

[ocean robin]

All of them. 40.

[fair iron]

Nice. ^^

[thick charm]

Am I just stupid or is the answer simply 21?

[fair iron]

^

[sudden panther]

The solution is: abandon fptp and get a proper electoral system.

[fair iron]

I'm thinking the same.

[thick charm]

Arrem is right

[ocean robin]

Let's see, Chuck and Casca.

[thick charm]

oh no

[fair iron]

This is a democratic system, yes?

[thick charm]

Casca I think we might be idiots

[ocean robin]

It's not 21.

[minor heart]

Politik?

[thick charm]

We're idiots

[fair iron]

We represent , Chuck. We need to try harder.

[thick charm]

Does he have to have more votes than the other two combined?

[ocean robin]

Yes.

Wait.

[thick charm]

Because it not

the answer would be 14

I believe

[twilit garden]

14

yeah

[ocean robin]

for being elected, a candidate must have more votes than the two others.

[sudden panther]

Well it can't be 14 since the other lad could outdo him if the third lad got no votes.

[ocean robin]

So 14?

Let's see.

[thick charm]

That's what our logic was, Arrem

[twilit garden]

the others have 13

[ocean robin]

it's not 14

well let's do 40 ÷ 3

[thick charm]

Is it 13?

oh 40+3

[sudden panther]

That's the path to 14, Flappy. 😛

[ocean robin]

oh.

Silly me.

Then 28?

[thick charm]

Do the 3 guys count towards the maximum of people?

[twilit garden]

why that?

[ocean robin]

If the he must beat the 2 others?

[thick charm]

If they do and they can't vote, the answer should be 37/3

[ocean robin]

Combined.

[thick charm]

So 12.3

So 13

[ocean robin]

Let's see 13 first.

And then 28.

[sudden panther]

Let's just input all numbers from 1 to 40.

[ocean robin]

It's not 13.

[thick charm]

that's bullshit

[fair iron]

Two down, 38 (or maybe 41) to go!

[twilit garden]

a simple majority vote just says that the person with the most votes wins - with three people the minimum is 14

[sudden panther]

Wait. That's an interesting thing Chuck. Can the 3 guys vote?

[ocean robin]

It's not 28.

[fair iron]

Try 14.

[thick charm]

she did

[fair iron]

Oh.

[ocean robin]

Already did.

[thick charm]

20?

I swear if it's 20

[ocean robin]

IT'S 20

[thick charm]

end me

[ocean robin]

AAAAAH

[twilit garden]

that's bullshit

[ocean robin]

🎉

[sudden panther]

chuck deffo went to genius school

[thick charm]

It's so dumb

[twilit garden]

in every way possible that's bullshit

[thick charm]

Yeah Nemo, we should just stop using logic

[ocean robin]

wait I'll translate how they did

[thick charm]

and go with the stupidest possible answer

[twilit garden]

20 is not bigger than 2*10

[sudden panther]

The answer is: Rig the elections.

[thick charm]

Gerrymandering is always the answer

[fair iron]

^

[sudden panther]

How do you gerrymander 40 people?

[fair iron]

I asked my politics teacher if there's a German term, but I've since forgotten it.

[thick charm]

very carefully

[fair iron]

^

[thick charm]

Wahlkreisschiebungen

[fair iron]

Oh, danke. ^^

[sudden panther]

Why of course there is. gerrymandern. Duden will add it any time now they way they're going. 😛

[thick charm]

Today on ridiculously long German words

[fair iron]

Puzzle 6, Flappy. When? ^^

[ocean robin]

The winner must have 20 votes to be sure to be elected. Because all the candidates hate each other, they will vote for themselves. (SERIOUSLY) 40 votes minus those 3 votes does 37 votes. The winner needs the half of those, in this case 19 votes. Add to that the vote of the winner, and you'll get 20 votes. Even if the other candidate would have 18 votes, it won't be enough.

Puzzle 6 is coming, Casca.

[thick charm]

I guess that kind of makes sense

[ocean robin]

No.

HOW CAN YOU VOTE FOR YOURSELF

[thick charm]

It's the same logic Casca and I initially followed

Just with the one major difference that the three candidates can actually vote

[ocean robin]

Puzzle n°6 going to be translated

[thick charm]

I'm hyped

[twilit garden]

it did not specify if it was a majority or plurality election 👀

election systems get me riled up, sorry

[sudden panther]

See this is what happens when we use shitty systems.

[twilit garden]

let's put Arrem in charge

[thick charm]

Let's not

He'd do the reverse Anschluss

and I don't want to be a part of Austria

[twilit garden]

he's in charge here and it's pretty good here, i'd say

[fair iron]

You wouldn't. Everything would just be .

[sudden panther]

Can confirm. I'd be great.

[crystal delta]

but I don't want to be part of Austria too Being a part of Bavaria is already a burden enough :<

[fair iron]

I'd put 🐱 in charge.

[sudden panther]

Bavaria is basically Austria. 😛

[crystal delta]

Austria is basically Bavaria

fite me

[thick charm]

Baysterreich

[sudden panther]

Ban Cat.

[crystal delta]

😦

[fair iron]

Never.

If 🐱 is gone, so am I.

[ocean robin]

"You have 4 horses all galloping on a different speed. To travel to the A point to the B point, each of those horses need respectively 1, 2, 4, and 6 hours. One day, you decide to move all your horses to the point A to the point B. However, you cannot move more than 2 horses at once and you must have one horse with you when you go back to point A. Knowing that you always travel at the speed of the slower horse who accompanies you, how many hours do you need (the minimum) to move all the horses?

[sudden panther]

7

[ocean robin]

Good luck.

[opal sequoia]

I would be okay with a catbot for a leader.

[fair iron]

The answer, I believe, is 12 hours.

I could be wrong.

[ocean robin]

Whoa fast Casca

[latent isle]

who is the owner here

[fair iron]

Wormic.

[latent isle]

damn

[fair iron]

Why do you ask?

[ocean robin]

It's not 12 hours.

[latent isle]

just askin

[sudden panther]

14?

[thick charm]

He's the king, but I'm the chancellor

[ocean robin]

LOL

[thick charm]

I'm not the chancellor

but that's a pretty awesome title

[ocean robin]

What if it was 11?

[sudden panther]

Is it not 14? 🤔

[ocean robin]

It's neither 11, 12, nor 14.

[thick charm]

13?

[ocean robin]

🎉

[fair iron]

Oh, 13.

[thick charm]

wow

[fair iron]

I missed a step.

[ocean robin]

CHUCK

HOW CAN YOU BE SO GENIUS

[thick charm]

I just

guessed

Went with what felt right

[sudden panther]

How do you get 13? 🤔

[thick charm]

magic

I have no idea

[fair iron]

1 and 2 go. | 2 hours.
1 goes back. | 3 hours.
4 and 6 go. | 9 hours.
2 goes back. | 11 hours.
1 and 2 go. | 13 hours.

[ocean robin]

Hours.

[fair iron]

I forgot to include 2 in the last step.

Well, hours, then. ^^

Same principle.

[thick charm]

oh that makes a lot more sense than what I came up with

because in all honesty

[ocean robin]

Next puzzle is going to be translated.

[sudden panther]

Heh. I just did a greedy thingo and always went back with 1.

[fair iron]

I have a puzzle, too.

[thick charm]

yeah

[fair iron]

Also to do with horses.

[thick charm]

2+4+6+1+1+1

That was my idea

[ocean robin]

OH YES CASCA

[thick charm]

but you don't get 13 from that

lmao

[ocean robin]

Do yours first.

[thick charm]

I'm just stupid

It's like when water is so cold that it feels hot

I'm just so dumb that my sheer stupidity makes me look like a genius

[ocean robin]

🤔

[fair iron]

An old king is dying and before he dies he wants to decide who will be the next king: his youngest son or his oldest son. He decides to hold a strange horse race for them both where the owner of the slowest horse will become the new king. He tells them that they must race to the castle and that whoever owns the slowest horse becomes the new king. The youngest son jumps on a horse and starts racing for the castle. The king then knows that his youngest son is the most intelligent and makes him the new king. Why?

[thick charm]

He ran off in the opposite direction

[ocean robin]

chuck be please don't too fast for meh

[fair iron]

Wrong, Chuck.

[thick charm]

no

it's right

[fair iron]

Nope. ^^

[thick charm]

damn

[ocean robin]

🤔

[valid ice]

Who's horse does he jump on?

[sudden panther]

Sneaky ass bastard stole his bro's horse.

[ocean robin]

why is this silly boi intelligent

[thick charm]

OH

Yeah

Fucking Arrem

[sudden panther]

Wait that could actually be the solution.

[thick charm]

It is

Pretty sure

[sudden panther]

Hehehehehe.

[fair iron]

Arrem got it.

[thick charm]

THat's just so stupid

[ocean robin]

Casca?

OMG

[fair iron]

His own horse is therefore the slowest.

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

See, this is why riddles suck.

[valid ice]

Wait casca im both tired and willing death. How does that make his own horse the slowest?

[sudden panther]

See my approach is to just throw around random memes and one of them will turn out to be correct. Also, those people on the bridge were totally werewolves. 😠

[ocean robin]

See, that's why I love riddles.

[thick charm]

If his brothers horse is faster

then his own horse is slower

[fair iron]

He arrived at the castle first, but on his brother's horse.

So his own horse will arrive there in second place.

[valid ice]

But his brother still owns it (?)

[ocean robin]

god how clever

[sudden panther]

Yes, but it's faster.

[fair iron]

The brother's horse was at the castle first, so the brother's horse was faster.

His own horse, therefore, was slower.

[valid ice]

ah 🤔 smert

[opal sequoia]

But what if the brother just buys a new horse?

[ocean robin]

[fair iron]

The king gives each of them a horse. Buying another horse would violate the rules.

[valid ice]

then he's a rich fuck who wastes his money on unnesescary things so shouldn't be trusted with the kingdom

[fair iron]

^

[opal sequoia]

Was that specified in the instructions?

[fair iron]

Okay, time for Flappy to present the sixth puzzle. 😃

[opal sequoia]

I didn't see it.

[fair iron]

The king was dying, who knows if he was still of sound body and mind.

Probably not.

[ocean robin]

Oh kkay.

[valid ice]

It's not, but he still owns the first horse base

[thick charm]

Was he played by Sky du Mont?

[fair iron]

Either way, the youngest son won before the oldest son had a chance to do anything.

I hope so, Chuck.

[ocean robin]

Let's go for translating~

[opal sequoia]

Callum, the owner of the horse that gets there second is the winner. If he owns BOTH horses, he wins anyway.

[thick charm]

My tail is wavy and my face is quite blotted.
I relay much emotion though flatly I'm spotted,
And I grow half my size whenever I'm dotted.
I can speak any language, yet utter no words.
I'm no seed, yet I am well known among birds.

But I do have a speech impediment:
I can say cage but not page, aged but not wage.
I can say deaf but not red, bed but not sled.

I live on a highway that's structurally sound,
Where you might see my friends accidentally bound.
It has many lanes, and also long lines.
There are lots of sharp turns, but plenty of signs.

I am played but not won, made but not spun.
The key is to measure before you've begun.

What am I?```

jump cut to Chuck feeling smart because he copied a riddle from the internet

[fair iron]

Haha. ^^

[ocean robin]

I just want to say that is a parrot

[thick charm]

you're a parrot

[ocean robin]

thanks

[thick charm]

But that's not

[ocean robin]

oh sad

[thick charm]

But that's a good one

[ocean robin]

[sudden panther]

tldr chuck

[valid ice]

^aka the answer

[fair iron]

Tl;dr: What am I?

[thick charm]

It's not the answer

[lost dagger]

are we still doing riddles?

[twilit garden]

iamamiwhami

[fair iron]

Yep.

[thick charm]

And you can't tldr a riddle

[ocean robin]

YES

[thick charm]

Silly Arrem

[whole rapids]

a song?

[sudden panther]

lateX MATH,SERVER

[ocean robin]

#riddles_and_math

[thick charm]

Close, pferd

Very close

[ocean robin]

A poem?

[whole rapids]

a sheet of music?

[ocean robin]

A letter?

[lost dagger]

oh

[thick charm]

Yeah I'll just let that count

Musical Notes

[whole rapids]

I'm da best

[ocean robin]

WHAT THE FUCK

[twilit garden]

🎵

[whole rapids]

me 1000 riddles -1

[thick charm]

einen Mann dafür, dass er fünf Löcher beobachtete?```

[valid ice]

point for team scotland then pferd? ❤

[whole rapids]

guess I'll be nationalistic this one time

[thick charm]

Man, we should have a serverwide round of Genial Daneben at some point

[fair iron]

^^

[ocean robin]

Time for translating the 6th puzzle, I see?

[thick charm]

sure

[valid ice]

Does genial mean great?

Same as french if so 🤔

[ocean robin]

Amazing is better.

[thick charm]

ingenious

[ocean robin]

🤔

[valid ice]

I guess that works

[fair iron]

Yes, Flappy!

[thick charm]

"Ingeniously stupid"

[ocean robin]

you say a golfer?

[thick charm]

Because we Germans don't have any clue how to properly name TV slows

slows

[ocean robin]

For a person playing golf?

[thick charm]

I guess it works

[lost dagger]

Yes

[thick charm]

Yup

[ocean robin]

oki dokie

[valid ice]

To stop people cheating chuck?

[thick charm]

Just say Tiger Woods

[ocean robin]

You know what the next puzzle will be about

[fair iron]

😮

[thick charm]

Tiger Wutz

[pine ginkgo]

what if the next puzzle is about flappsy

🤔

[twilit garden]

Genial Daneben now?

[thick charm]

http://puu.sh/xenLo/d5e8eac81d.png I am so happy right now

you don't even know

[fair iron]

#general-daneben.

Oh, schade.

Was.

[valid ice]

is that a mugshot?

[fair iron]

So.

Yes it is.

[valid ice]

Was Wutz arrested? Damn

[fair iron]

Aye.

[valid ice]

Wit fer?

[fair iron]

Ah dunnae ken.

[valid ice]

no good enough pal
Tiger Woods arrested, charged with DUI in Florida after police see him driving erratically -May 30, 2017

[lost dagger]

a canny read that

i don't speak scotland

[fair iron]

Tyger, tyger, burning bright,
Burning rubber in the nite [...]

[valid ice]

ye cannae read mate? yive gaun tae school like?

works way better spoken

[fair iron]

Yep.

[twilit garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cK_KXVZ8sI

[ocean robin]

Puzzle n°6
A professional golfer has an incredible talent. He is always capable to do putts (?) which have the exact same distance. However, strangely, his shots can permit him to cover the following distances: 3, 5, 7 and 11 (🎉 prime numbers)
Our golfer is on the green, at 20 meters of the hole. How many shots does he have to do to put the ball in the hole? (minimum)
Be careful, if the ball is launched on a longer distance than the one leading to the hole, it will continue its course without falling in the hole.

[twilit garden]

i think the scottish dialect is not as hard to understand with non-natives

oh sorry

[fair iron]

It looks stoatin when written, tay, thocht.

Yay, puzzle!

*has. ^^

[ocean robin]

wait where

[fair iron]

First sentence.

[ocean robin]

oh yes

[whole rapids]

can only permit

[ocean robin]

Thank you, translating on a phone isn't an east task.

[fair iron]

Is the answer 4?

[ocean robin]

*easy

[fair iron]

That's the answer I currently have.

[ocean robin]

Awnser 4?

[fair iron]

11, 11, -5, 3.

Yep. I'm saying 4.

[ocean robin]

Nope.

[whole rapids]

7, 7, 3, 3?

[pine ginkgo]

hehe

heheheheh

[fair iron]

There are multiple ways of reaching 4, so I assume that 3 is the answer.

[valid ice]

heh, watching that's actually made my day nemoses c;

[ocean robin]

The tip is: Remember, he is a professional golfer, he can do incredible things.

[pine ginkgo]

try 2 🤔

[ocean robin]

🤔

[fair iron]

Oh, 2 could be possible.

[ocean robin]

🎉

[fair iron]

It never said the ball has to touch the green all the time.

So you were right, Solet.

[ocean robin]

solet first

[whole rapids]

well technically he could get it in 1

[pine ginkgo]

it never said it should be a straight line to the end either

:)

[ocean robin]

tell me your reasoning

[fair iron]

How, Pferd?

[ocean robin]

AH

[fair iron]

Oh, that's even better, Solet. 😄

[whole rapids]

can just lob it in the air

[fair iron]

I was thinking he'd chip it somehow.

[pine ginkgo]

you don't have to put in the same direction :)

[fair iron]

I like your answer more, though. ^^

[pine ginkgo]

pferd, it's about the distance

[valid ice]

is it a distance of 11m, or a displacement of 11m?

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

oh

displacement

[whole rapids]

oh, distance on the ground?

[pine ginkgo]

i think they want

yeah

[fair iron]

Ye whit, Callum.

[thick charm]

Beau Travail

[whole rapids]

thought you could just lob it 11m in the air

[ocean robin]

yes

[thick charm]

Bö Treffel

[ocean robin]

🤔

[whole rapids]

then it falls back down however you want

[fair iron]

La Vache Qui Rit™.

[ocean robin]

It would mean good job

[thick charm]

Oh

[ocean robin]

LA VACHE QUI RIT CASCA OMG

[thick charm]

I thought

[valid ice]

ah wit? fuck you on mate its like gcse level physics

[pine ginkgo]

KÄSE

[ocean robin]

YIU MADE MY DAY

[whole rapids]

that riddle requires maths

[fair iron]

Aw, glad to hear it. ^^

[pine ginkgo]

i used to eat it all the time

[whole rapids]

making me think in maths is hard!!!!!!!

[pine ginkgo]

it's not maths

[ocean robin]

it wasn't math at all

[pine ginkgo]

those are "trick" questions

[ocean robin]

Soley is just a genius

[whole rapids]

what

[ocean robin]

[whole rapids]

it is maths

[fair iron]

Ah ken, but thes isnae GCSE physics, Callum.

[pine ginkgo]

no, maths just have a secondary role in this puzzle

it's about

the puzzle making you think a certain way

and you forget to think about the real solution

[twilit garden]

now: determine the angle with which the shot needs to be made

[whole rapids]

well yeah, I know it's about thinking outside the triangle, but I mean more the exact solution

[pine ginkgo]

the way the puzzle is worded is to deceive you

[ocean robin]

[fair iron]

I have another horse-related puzzle, although it's not as simple as the last one.

[pine ginkgo]

the exact solution does not really matter

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, so difficult, Nemo.

[whole rapids]

I want to know it tho

[pine ginkgo]

once you get the "trick"

[whole rapids]

pls figure it out the angle now

[ocean robin]

Do yours Casca, then we do the next I have.

[twilit garden]

cos(10/11)?

[opal sequoia]

Yeah.

[whole rapids]

hmm, is it really just that

[ocean robin]

Oh so it's math AND riddles at once.

[valid ice]

0.614rad then 😃

[pine ginkgo]

the games have a lot more of those trick questions

:)

[ocean robin]

tricky trickey

[fair iron]

You are the proud owner of 25 horses. You can race up to 5 horses simultaneously.
Your goal is to find the fastest, second fastest, and third fastest horse.
What are the minimum amount of races needed to figure this out?

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

uhm

valiant answer, flappy

[whole rapids]

1

[twilit garden]

shoot all but three - no race required

[ocean robin]

don't tell me it's true casca

[fair iron]

25 is not the answer, I'm afraid.

[valid ice]

5 races?

[fair iron]

Nope.

[valid ice]

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

oh

i see the permutation here

[ocean robin]

OH

5?

[valid ice]

oh is it three?

[thick charm]

lmao Flappy

[fair iron]

No.

[thick charm]

Learn 2 read

[pine ginkgo]

i nearly didn't read that you want 3 horses

🤔

[ocean robin]

I know right Chuck

[valid ice]

7?

[fair iron]

I should add:
You cannot time the horses. You only know the order in which they finish.

[valid ice]

I've heard the riddle before and if it isn't 3, 5, or 7 i can't remember the answer 😦

[ocean robin]

what the fuck is this riddle

[pine ginkgo]

try thinking about

[fair iron]

Callum is correct. The answer is 7.

[pine ginkgo]

how you would proceed

[twilit garden]

ah ok Casca, without that it were 5

[ocean robin]

🤔 🤔

[valid ice]

No clue why it'd be 7, just a guess ❤

[pine ginkgo]

flappsy

[whole rapids]

yeah, wouldn't make it sense without being able to time them

[pine ginkgo]

how would you try to rank them

[ocean robin]

give me reasoning please

[valid ice]

oh shit im an actual fucking mongo

wrote it down

then read it wrong

k

[ocean robin]

I dunno Solet

[valid ice]

still not sure why 7 though, with timing i can get 7

[ocean robin]

Callum: "hey 7 is gud number let's say tat"

[valid ice]

actually, could you not do it in 6?

5 races, pick the 5 fastet

[whole rapids]

with timing you can get 5?

[twilit garden]

i was about to ask the same

[valid ice]

one more race, then pick the top three

[ocean robin]

I said 25.

[valid ice]

No you can't actually nemoses 😦

[twilit garden]

ah no, that does not work

[pine ginkgo]

uh

[whole rapids]

I guess to be exact but you could just time them on each race on the same track and compare the times

[pine ginkgo]

it's not guarenteed

[ocean robin]

You can see the level of sillyness.

[pine ginkgo]

that in the first place of 5 races

[valid ice]

you could have 5 really fast horses, faster than all the rest, all in one race together

[pine ginkgo]

are all the fastet horses

yep

[valid ice]

^

[twilit garden]

one race could be on a different level

yeah

our brains are synchronised now

i don't know what the two races would be for though

[whole rapids]

a winner's and loser's bracket of sorts maybe?

[ocean robin]

So do I translate next one now?

[pine ginkgo]

nah

[fair iron]

Build 5 groups, A to E, and have them race. You now know the 5 fastest horses. In each group, place the slowest horse on the left, and the fastest on the right.
Now race those 5 horses, and determine the fastest horse overall. Now order the groups from top to bottom according to the outcome, with the winner of this sixth race and its group at the top.
Finally, race the following horses:

- Group A, Place 2.
- Group A, Place 3.
- Group B, Place 1.
- Group B, Place 2.
- Group C, Place 1.```

[pine ginkgo]

that would lead to more

[ocean robin]

🤔 🤔

god how can we come to this

[whole rapids]

I still don't understand l0l

[pine ginkgo]

i am a fraid

[fair iron]

I'm a frayed knot.

[ocean robin]

do you want next one or explanations?

[fair iron]

Next one. 😃

[whole rapids]

yes next

[fair iron]

Unless there are still questions?

[whole rapids]

tell me the riddle of your heart

[ocean robin]

Oki dokie. This one will require a photo.

[fair iron]

That was deep, Pferd. 😄

[valid ice]

sure if you get us drink pferd ❤

[fair iron]

^ I'm in.

Whit is yer poison, Callum?

[valid ice]

vodka and whisky, of course 😃 toi?

cider as well, if it's on offer from someone

but easier to carry a bottle, than a crate of cider

[whole rapids]

yeh git wat yeh git

[fair iron]

Ah cannae help but agree.

[whole rapids]

In other words, a fine bottle of wine.

[fair iron]

Guid choices, Callum.

[valid ice]

aye wit i give you £20 and yer back with a six poond cherry?

away tae fuck pal ❤

[whole rapids]

btw Callum random aside

[ocean robin]

"It is sometimes so difficult to see the persons we love leaving... How many farwells have occured on a station?
The picture below (it's not below in fact, lol) represents a womwn and a man who are doing farwells. However, a small irrealistic detail is hiding in this touching scene. What is this detail?"

[whole rapids]

you use "outwith", right?

[valid ice]

eh, not really

depends

[whole rapids]

but I mean

[ocean robin]

That puzzle is deep.

[whole rapids]

you use it

[valid ice]

if im in school and speaking to a teacher, maybe?

[whole rapids]

I learnt recently that's a Scottish thing

[fair iron]

I think I've got it, Flappy.

[valid ice]

wot?

[whole rapids]

i no rite

[ocean robin]

whooooa Casca

[fair iron]

Should I say what it is or let the others guess first?

[pine ginkgo]

oh

[whole rapids]

not read it yet one mo

[pine ginkgo]

i remember this one

[valid ice]

casca do you ever use outwith?

[pine ginkgo]

it took me longer than i want to admit back then

[ocean robin]

Give more time for the others I think.

[fair iron]

Not as much as I'd like, Callum.

[whole rapids]

is it the spooky ghost?

[valid ice]

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/outwith?s=t it is aswell

[fair iron]

No, Pferd.

[ocean robin]

Is it the doggo?

[whole rapids]

trains don't leave at night!!!

[pine ginkgo]

it's the flappsy

[ocean robin]

where am I

[fair iron]

That train has no wings. How will it fly?

[ocean robin]

[valid ice]

do they not? im sure there's night trains between dunedin and glaschu

[fair iron]

Nice guess, but no, Pferd.

Trains don't really have a bedtime.

[whole rapids]

wait

[ocean robin]

What is that thing over there?

[whole rapids]

is that guy lifting that kid?

while another arm is holding the window?

does he have 3 arms?

[fair iron]

That's not it, Pferd.

[whole rapids]

but it looks like it, right?

[ocean robin]

what is this?!

[fair iron]

Fire hydrant? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[valid ice]

it's a massive rucksack on a midget?

[ocean robin]

🤔

[fair iron]

Kidding. What Callum said. ^^

Looks like a child, though. So temporary midget?

[ocean robin]

mmmmh so not that suspicious

[fair iron]

Nope.

[ocean robin]

Is it the train itself?

[valid ice]

No if he doesn't eat his greens 😠