lessons

[outer vector]

modal verbs are bruh

[unreal coral]

Ach so ❤️

[glossy cedar]

Ja😊

That sounds fun

[outer vector]

well now i know i made the mistake of putting the modal verb at the end in an email to my professor yesterday D:

in a subordinate clause

[glossy cedar]

So hin comes from gehen?

[tawdry gorge]

hin - towards
her - from

[boreal zealot]

"Where do you want to?"

-"tomorrow"

[glossy cedar]

Ahh 😊

[high onyx]

Can you give an example with "müssen" where the verb is dropped?

[boreal zealot]

"I want to Frankfurt"

"(go to) Frankfurt"

It makes sense. Well, maybe not semantic sense but it makes economic sense

For the berevity.

[high onyx]

So you only drop them when the meaning is obvious? As in "Ich kann heute nicht ins Kino"

Got it

[glossy cedar]

Chicken tiktik this is interesting to learn because there's a lyric in a yung hurn song that goes "sie will zu mir" and it never made sense until now

[boreal zealot]

It's like when German's say "Et habe Lecker" (it has taste) to say it tastes good

does "ich kann Deutsch" count in that?

oder "ich muss los"

[high onyx]

I guess it does depending on the context

[outer vector]

Ich muss weiter?

[boreal zealot]

repetitive

[tawdry gorge]

yes hexe :D

[glossy cedar]

Hey Ex!

So you're expected to assume what people mean with these phrases

Like Ich kann Deutsch

[boreal zealot]

^good example

[high onyx]

Quick question if possible
if we use "lassen" is it possible to have a triple infinitive at the end of a sentence?

Jesus

[boreal zealot]

The Verb needs to be in the second position

Is essentially the only rule right?

Until there are dependent clauses

oop

Sorry I am new

[tawdry gorge]

obvious motion, tun, verbs that have been mentioned before OR idiomatic phrases

[boreal zealot]

Nicht doesn't have to come at the end of a sentence if it follows kann?

[glossy cedar]

Only the first image?

[boreal zealot]

oka danke

[glossy cedar]

Gotcha (:

[boreal zealot]

wow, graphic

[glossy cedar]

🤣

[boreal zealot]

haha

[delicate vortex]

Ive seen darf ich mal before

[boreal zealot]

Er kann mich = "He can (you know what [to]) my (***)"

[delicate vortex]

Hmm i think can i have a look

/hold it

Someone did that to me lol

Ich muss mal XD

[glossy cedar]

😅

Was ist ich muss mal

[outer vector]

oh

[glossy cedar]

Ohh 😆

[outer vector]

😳

[boreal zealot]

except when u say "er darf mich"

[outer vector]

i hatte mal mussen vor fünf minuten

[boreal zealot]

lol

[glossy cedar]

Lmao im so lost

[boreal zealot]

not very polite i mean ahaha

yeah the exact opposite

durfen + konjunktiv 2 = absolute respect level 1000%

[glossy cedar]

Do you mind typing the examples

[covert escarp]

dürfte ich um Salz bitten

[outer vector]

ask for the salt?

[boreal zealot]

um = ???

[covert escarp]

das is right too

[boreal zealot]

um etwas bitten

[tawdry gorge]

Wir freuen uns, Sie hier begruessen zu duerfen!

[delicate vortex]

Bitten um is a set thing

Thats sounds really formal

[trim lava]

Wo is das Salz Jungee

[tawdry gorge]

Darf ich kurz das Geld zaehlen?\

[glossy cedar]

So darf comes from dürfen? And dürfte is past tense?

[covert escarp]

konjunktiv II

[boreal zealot]

Das darf im Kühlschrank nicht sein

[glossy cedar]

Ah

[delicate vortex]

Get the dog out of the fridge!

[tawdry gorge]

Das duerfte reichen - that will probably be enough

[boreal zealot]

Lel

oh no, nightmares

but thats more like ability

for können

[delicate vortex]

Is it the same as that toillet meme

Can i go to the toilet, yes you can

But you may not

[boreal zealot]

may works better tho

I feel like language is a lot like jazz

[glossy cedar]

Haha was

[boreal zealot]

It all depends on the mood you want

[delicate vortex]

Do ya lik jazzz

[boreal zealot]

yisss

[glossy cedar]

|| Kann ich die Salz essen?||

Oop

[delicate vortex]

Sorry again hecke ;-;

[glossy cedar]

Das*

[boreal zealot]

Can I eat the salt?

[covert escarp]

😅

[glossy cedar]

Ja Vince

[delicate vortex]

Thanks

[glossy cedar]

Es ist sehr leise

[outer vector]

Salz ist neutrum

[delicate vortex]

Mean yes

Meanie

[boreal zealot]

Nein, es ist sehr nicht laut

[tawdry gorge]

He could have lost his phone - ||Er koennte sein Handy verloren haben.||
Das Handy - phone
lost - verloren
Konjunktiv 2 koennen - ||Koennten||

[trim lava]

Hallooo?? Kannst du mal dein Mikro stumm stellen?!?! Very important to know

[outer vector]

i love that my lecture is just going over the syllabus still so i can happily ignore it

[trim lava]

lmfao

[glossy cedar]

|| Er konnte ins Handy verloren ||

Oops I messed up

[outer vector]

||Er könnte sein Handy verlassen||
||könnte (er)||

oop wrong verb

[delicate vortex]

||Er könnte sein Handy verloren haben||

[glossy cedar]

Nvm I dont know what it is

Ja

[delicate vortex]

So i think i missed this one, is können being conjugated in Präsens?

Ahh i see

[boreal zealot]

||Er könnte sein Handy verloren haben.||

[glossy cedar]

Oh I wasnt sure why you put that there

[covert escarp]

still needs posessive pronoun

[boreal zealot]

"Could" could either take place in the past or the present though, yes?

[delicate vortex]

Does this work too ||er kann sein Handy verloren haben||?

[boreal zealot]

I suppose it implies past

[glossy cedar]

|| Er könnte ins Handy verloren ||

[covert escarp]

konjunktiv II is more polite, it fits better

[glossy cedar]

I dont know why I'm putting ins

Let me try again

[boreal zealot]

it didnt happen

[delicate vortex]

I saw a think using kann könnte mag dürfe etc for probability

[covert escarp]

fits in colloquial in my opinion

[trim lava]

Es kann sein, dass er sein Handy verloren hat :^)

[glossy cedar]

|| Er könnte seinen Handy verloren ||

[delicate vortex]

Hmm i saw some grammar stuff, i found it strange too so just asking

[high mantle]

"Er kann sein Handy (ja) verloren haben, aber das ist mir so was von egal!"

[glossy cedar]

[boreal zealot]

i have a question

[high mantle]

I think no actually

about that particle

[delicate vortex]

Cool thanks

[glossy cedar]

I used dativ

[boreal zealot]

what exactly is the difference between konjunktiv I and II

[glossy cedar]

V.V

[boreal zealot]

in dativ it would be seinem* in any case

[high mantle]

Or at least.. it doesn't sound as natural to me then

[outer vector]

seinen is masculine accusative

[boreal zealot]

but here it's a direct object

[glossy cedar]

|| Er könnte sein Handy verloren ||

Danke

[delicate vortex]

Neee k1 sollte weg tschüss nicht hier nicht heute XD

[glossy cedar]

Its okay haha

[boreal zealot]

and with modal verben it becomes infinitv

[glossy cedar]

I dont completely understand but I'll work on it

[delicate vortex]

Honestly its a strange grammar thing this with könnte

[boreal zealot]

Chicken your mic sounds like a crumpled paper ball

Your mic is fighting

[glossy cedar]

Its not so bad

[boreal zealot]

only sometimes

[delicate vortex]

Perfekt

[boreal zealot]

Ich würde gerne nachfragen, wieso du mich geschlagen hast

impressive patience

[glossy cedar]

Lmao hexe

[boreal zealot]

Höflichkeit 100%

[delicate vortex]

Can you say

Ich kann cello (spielen)

(Is cello das?)

[high mantle]

Yes, das

[boreal zealot]

it's implied, what else would that mean

[delicate vortex]

Whoop

[trim lava]

Ö Kannst du etwa Cello spielen?!?

[delicate vortex]

(Ja aber ziemlich schlecht :))

[trim lava]

lmao hecke X)

noo excite meee

[high mantle]

Ja, kann sie!
And I wouldn't say 'ich kann Cello'

[boreal zealot]

huh

[high mantle]

(because I can't, but 'Ich kann Klavier' would work)
jk

[trim lava]

Ich spiele Cello sounds more natural I guess

[boreal zealot]

lol

[glossy cedar]

Haha bulli

[trim lava]

ach Bulli ❤️

[high mantle]

Idk, maybe it works, but I wouldn't say "Ich kann [Instrument]"

[boreal zealot]

ich kann Cello (fahren)

[delicate vortex]

What about, malen

Nvm

Thats a verb

[high mantle]

Lyt, hecke :3

[delicate vortex]

Ich kann die Malerei

[boreal zealot]

Ich kann Cello herstellen

[high mantle]

Ich kann das Malen

[trim lava]

omg

[high mantle]

❤️

[boreal zealot]

ich Cello

[trim lava]

What can 'kann' do?!?

[boreal zealot]

not even kann

[delicate vortex]

Kann cant

[high mantle]

Ich Cello, du Cello, er/sie/es Cello, ...

[boreal zealot]

ich wumbo, du wumbst

so more like können + k2 = possibility because it technically hasnt happened

[glossy cedar]

Detusch ist schön

Oof

Deutsch*

[delicate vortex]

Like a Vermutung

[glossy cedar]

😂

[boreal zealot]

exactly like could

rather than can

mag sein

ich mag etwas

[glossy cedar]

Ich mag er

[high mantle]

I mog di

[boreal zealot]

ihn

ihn*

[glossy cedar]

Ja danke I wasnt sure what ihn was

[boreal zealot]

wegen Akkusativ

would like

[trim lava]

Ich mag Bullis Profilbild

[delicate vortex]

Ich möchte bullis profilbild

Darn beat me to it

[trim lava]

Als Haustier? Oder...

[glossy cedar]

Can werden and mögen be paired

[boreal zealot]

malen

[glossy cedar]

I keep forgetting werden is future

😅

[tawdry gorge]

moechten

[boreal zealot]

(did u already do werden hecke?)

[delicate vortex]

Leute heute

Hehe

[boreal zealot]

as a modal verb

[high mantle]

"Ich möchte Bullis Profilbild haben"
https://www.elmundo.cr/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/manaties-manati.jpg
There you go

[boreal zealot]

or is it not

huh okay, cool cool

[delicate vortex]

Ich möchte ihr Gesichte sehen haben, is that what you said?

Ahh

[glossy cedar]

Makes sense ^^

[boreal zealot]

Ohne Haben

[delicate vortex]

Ich möchte ihr Gesicht gesehen haben werden????

[high mantle]

[tawdry gorge]

Er haette ihn gekuesst moegen

[delicate vortex]

Ahh mine was very wrong lol

[high mantle]

It sounds weird to me uwu

[boreal zealot]

example of young love

[high mantle]

Yes

Well, if Hammers says it, then it will work I guess. Thanks, I will start using it hehexd

[glossy cedar]

He kissed him tomorrow is what Google translate says. I need a new translator

🤣🤣

[boreal zealot]

he would have liked to kiss him

[trim lava]

Also Bulli hätte ihn sicher gerne geküsst 😻

[high mantle]

Klar, so wie jeden

[tawdry gorge]

Ich haette gern ihn gekuesst

[high mantle]

It puts emphasis onto ihn btw

I would rather say Ich hätte ihn gern geküsst

[boreal zealot]

right!

[glossy cedar]

How do you know what is emphasized

[boreal zealot]

😍

[high mantle]

Das mag sein

[boreal zealot]

segway to mag sein

same

[glossy cedar]

Danke ^^

[high mantle]

=(

[boreal zealot]

aw :(

it's simple past for mögen

[high mantle]

That makes no sense at all

uwu

That's fine. Feel free to use me

[trim lava]

use Bulli B

[boreal zealot]

sub Bulli B

[tacit mauve]

:x: Group Bulli B not found.
Try >groups to see a list of all groups or >group joinall to join all available groups.

[boreal zealot]

HAHAHA

[glossy cedar]

🤣🤣

Omg

[high mantle]

dom Bulli B

[tawdry gorge]

YES

[glossy cedar]

Your image is tarnished already

[high mantle]

O,O

[trim lava]

Ich mag something something nicht 😠

[boreal zealot]

hhh

[glossy cedar]

Ich mag etwas etwas nicht

[boreal zealot]

so ich mag nicht aufräumen?

oder aufzuräumen actually?

[glossy cedar]

Are you saying und gern?

Un gern?

[trim lava]

Warum nicht Hexe?!?

[tawdry gorge]

ungern

[glossy cedar]

Danke

[boreal zealot]

rect

[glossy cedar]

🤣 he said who

[high mantle]

kinda like 'ich will nicht aufräumen', yeah, works, Hexe

[boreal zealot]

weil ich bessere dinge zu tun habe, aber ich mach es trotzdem 🤷‍♀️

I think it would be: ich mag es nicht, aufzuräumen

[high mantle]

I think ich mag nicht aufzuräumen actually works, too

I think 'Ich mag (das) Aufräumen nicht'

[boreal zealot]

right? thought modal verben didnt get a zu

[high mantle]

if you have nicht at the end

[delicate vortex]

Ich mag (es) nicht, aufzuräumen

Its a seperate clause

[high mantle]

and with a modal verb it's like "Ich mag nicht aufräumen"

[glossy cedar]

Lost me again

[boreal zealot]

but with zu it doesnt sound wrong for some reason

hmm okay

Why is Aufraumen capitalized in your sentence @high mantle ?

Aufraumen is a noun?

[high mantle]

It's also a bit different about what it means imo.
Like "Ich mag nicht aufräumen" : I don't want to clean rn

[boreal zealot]

it's used as a noun

how?

[high mantle]

"Ich mag Aufräumen nicht" : Aufräumen ist Sch-
(Cleaning is generall eww)

[boreal zealot]

oh

so you can nounify verbs

[high mantle]

Yeah, what Hexe said

[boreal zealot]

yes

[glossy cedar]

Whoa

[boreal zealot]

scheise

and the artikel is always das

ok

[glossy cedar]

Thats good to know

[boreal zealot]

Stimmt

[shell tundra]

oh hi!

[glossy cedar]

|| Das ist gut zu wissen ||

[boreal zealot]

das Wissen

[glossy cedar]

😊 danke

[boreal zealot]

;)

[delicate vortex]

Ich möchte gerne mehr mögen-Verwendungen hören wenn es mehr gibt

[glossy cedar]

Ich muss gehen😔

[trim lava]

[high mantle]

Good modal verb usage, FKA

[glossy cedar]

Thank you for the lesson!!

[delicate vortex]

Tschau!

[glossy cedar]

Danke Bulli

[boreal zealot]

spater

[glossy cedar]

Tschüss!!!😊

[boreal zealot]

👋 <3

[shell tundra]

tschussi!

[boreal zealot]

I am always amazed at how similar Tschuss and Cheers sound phonetically

[tawdry gorge]

Sie mag etwa vierzig sein

[boreal zealot]

could u use "sie möchte etwa vierzig sein"

[delicate vortex]

Ive seen it before, but i find it strange still

[boreal zealot]

right

[delicate vortex]

I agree with hecke there

[west void]

@boreal zealot do you mean mochte?

[boreal zealot]

hhh

[tawdry gorge]

Die Behandlungen moegen auch eine Rolle gespielt haben

[lethal tangle]

link for lesson?

[boreal zealot]

i mean konjunktiv 2

[high mantle]

@indigo moss ping

[indigo moss]

hello guys

[west void]

@boreal zealot ach so ok

[delicate vortex]

Sie mag etwa 40 gewesen sein?

[trim lava]

Schlank und gutaussehend?!?

Actually you can totally say that

[west void]

What book is this?

[boreal zealot]

maybe is literally mag sein

not really

but well

[west void]

Can you type the title of the book

Ok cool

[tawdry gorge]

Das mag sein - That may well be
und wer mag das (schon) sein - and who can that be?
wie mag das nur gekommen sein? - How can that have happened?

[amber hemlock]

btw guys is there like a plan for the lessons or do they happen at random?

[boreal zealot]

what deramann said

[delicate vortex]

Wie mag das (bloß?) passiert sein. as a replacement

[boreal zealot]

sessions

[tacit mauve]

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[delicate vortex]

This weeks is on sunday

[amber hemlock]

oooh

okay thanks

[high mantle]

(yeah, the bloß fits, Blu)

[boreal zealot]

saving that command thx

[delicate vortex]

Passt bloß dazu?

Ahh yes

Thanks

[west void]

Yes please

[tawdry gorge]

Wer er auch sein mag....
Wer er auch ist...
Whoever he may be....

Wie dem auch sein mag - however that may be

[boreal zealot]

Wearing a monocle is also recommended when using these.

Hahahaha

[amber hemlock]

its so famous

[trim lava]

Nö

[amber hemlock]

lol

[trim lava]

😉

[delicate vortex]

Nö was soll das denn hecke

[tawdry gorge]

Moege die Macht mit dir sein!

[trim lava]

Möge der Zug pünktlich sein 😒

[high mantle]

Möge diese Konstruktion natürlich sein.

[delicate vortex]

I think i heard bollen

[trim lava]

Möget ihr euch auf die nächste Übung freuen!!111

[amber hemlock]

me too l

[high mantle]

Wir mögen die Übungen

[trim lava]

Jawohl

[delicate vortex]

Keen

[west void]

Klopf klopf klopf

[delicate vortex]

Möge blu die Zeit erinnern

[boreal zealot]

thank you for your efforts Hecke ❤️

[high mantle]

Woran möchtest du die Zeit denn erinnern?

(reflexive or it is to remind)

[trim ferry]

That sounds easier to follow yeah

[delicate vortex]

(Thanks)

[trim ferry]

♥️

[delicate vortex]

Möge blu sich die Zeit erinner, besser bulli?

[west void]

@tawdry gorge wait what’s the name of the book

[high mantle]

*an die Zeit

[delicate vortex]

Bother

[tawdry gorge]

Hammers German Grammar and Usage

[high mantle]

Ist ja Hammer!

[west void]

Danke

[amber hemlock]

I have been learning german for more than a year now and i got the basics down but i still learned a couple of very useful things in this short amount of time

so thank you

[delicate vortex]

IMMER

Schieß los

Los

(Whats ready set go again)

[high mantle]

"Auf die Plätze..
Fertig?
Los!" ... Yeah, exactly

[tawdry gorge]

She couldn't have written the letter (it couldn't have been her who wrote the letter)

[delicate vortex]

Thank

[tawdry gorge]

+ (she wouldn't have been able to write the letter)

[delicate vortex]

Sie hätte wohl den Brief nicht geschrieben haben schreiben können (couldnt)

Sie könnte den Brief nicht geschrieben haben (wouldnt)

Wait

Hmmm

Maybe the other way around

Nah this is fine how wrong is it

Hmm the seconds one i would actually write a bit differently

Sie war nicht in der Lage, diesen Brief zu schreiben

[boreal zealot]

Sie könnte nicht den Brief geschrieben haben. Sie würde nicht den Brief geschrieben haben können??? idfk lol

i have no idea

[delicate vortex]

Same lol

[boreal zealot]

it all looks the same to me

if u wanna put the betonung on the brief, then u use it after nicht

[tardy prawn]

Sie könnte den Brief nicht geschrieben haben (wouldnt)
Sie hätte den Brief nicht schrieben können

+ (she wouldn't have been able to write the letter)
Sie wäre nicht fähig gewesen, den Brief zu schrieben
But this second one is more like she doesn’t have the capacity or capability to

🥚

[boreal zealot]

nicht schreiben

[trim lava]

Was haben Sie denn da geschrieben Ö Ö Ö

[high mantle]

Come in here if you have #lessons comments @tardy prawn 😤

[tardy prawn]

😔

Ich suche meine Kopfhörer

[tawdry gorge]

koennten gemacht haben - could have done (capable of)
haetten machen koennen - might have done (capable but would she have)

[high mantle]

It will probably be done soon anyways. It just could have been an exercise, so be careful :p

[tawdry gorge]

German Glearning Gourney

[delicate vortex]

GGG

[boreal zealot]

thank you Hecke 💖

[amber hemlock]

Thanks a lot

[delicate vortex]

Perfect acronym

[high mantle]

Byeee Hecke. Lovely lesson

[trim lava]

GrundGesetzGeil

[outer vector]

Thanks heck!

[trim lava]

Danks Hecklor ^.^

[tawdry gorge]

gern

[trim lava]

Hä?

Lol Achsoo

Tschöö Bullilein ❤️

[covert wharf]

Ah missed a lesson. Goddammit. Godverdomme.

Ok that's Dutch but close.

[boreal zealot]

when is the next german lesson

?

[burnt scaffold]

You can do >sessions in #botchannel

[boreal zealot]

ooooo

didnt know they were set before hand

[quasi lynx]

So, I'm giving oyu a lesson now:
Wenn du zu viel Bier trinkst, wirst du betrunken. Deshalb trink lieber Vodka, weil man davon nicht viel trinken kann.
So that's it and hope you learned something.

[tawdry gorge]

@boreal zealot @delicate vortex After much deliberation, yes, constructions with modal verbs cannot have zu in the same clause

[storm turret]

@tawdry gorge @delicate vortex @boreal zealot As a counterpoint to that, take the following sentence

"es mag zu empfehlen sein,"

from here https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2000:362:0013:0014:DE:PDF

i have no clue if that applies to the original sentence, but hecke's statement doesn't apply as a blanket rule to all cases

[tawdry gorge]

GODDAMIT SUN

FUCK OFF

[storm turret]

though i kind of agree with bulli that in the original mögen is being used as a vollverb

and the zu infinitive clause has just been simplified

lemme find the corresponding rechtschreibung regeln

this is the one of the optionalness of commas with zu infinitives https://www.duden.de/sprachwissen/rechtschreibregeln/komma#D124
and i'm trying to find the grammar point for it but i think the 'es' may be droppable on the grounds of how dummy pronouns are treated but that's just theory until i can find a source

also @tawdry gorge no, you know this is what i live for

'es' as a dummy pronoun acting as an object can be dropped if you so desire e.g. Für mich wäre (es) besser, wenn ich...

[covert wharf]

👀

[storm turret]

mir ist (es) kalt is an example where the es is typically dropped

[tawdry gorge]

I DO

But do you have to ruin my entire career

[storm turret]

not the only thing of yours i'd like to ruin ;)

[tardy prawn]

I don’t think that „zu“ is being used with a modal verb there at all, as it doesn’t even come before the modal verb. It‘s being used with „empfehlen“.

Das ist zu empfehlen = that’s able to be recommended.

[storm turret]

i don't think you're understanding the grammar we're talking about

typically modal verbs use the plain infinitive not the zu infinitive
e.g. ich will schlafen. not ich will zu schlafen

[tardy prawn]

I am pretty sure I understand. Modal verbs don‘t get used with zu, unless it’s an „um...zu“ construction

[storm turret]

and the topic here is (originally) about the sentence "ich mag nicht aufzuräumen"

[tardy prawn]

Yeah so the es is dropped

[storm turret]

exactly, and the mag there is being used in the sense of the full verb not the modal verb

which is why (i argue) that the sentence works

@high mantle has found some real life examples where the construction has been used @tawdry gorge @boreal zealot @delicate vortex

[boreal zealot]

omg thats literally my example

lol

[storm turret]

dropping the es would be unconventional but according to 'duden die grammtik' not ungrammatical

[boreal zealot]

but here Bulli did say there's a nuance in the meaning

with zu, and ohne zu

[tardy prawn]

Aha yes i forgot about ohne zu

Then you can „contradict“ this rule even more

Ich habe das gemacht, ohne ihn sehen zu müssen.

[boreal zealot]

ahh no no, i meant without "zu"

[tardy prawn]

Huh?

You literally wrote „ohne zu“

[boreal zealot]

yeah, i meant ohne "zu"

[tardy prawn]

Wait ok I get it

But actually that’s funny because the way I wrote it is also correct

[boreal zealot]

yah hehe, it's just not what i meant

[dapper cedar]

when gonna start the beginners lessons in Deutsch

dose anyone knows

[high mantle]

Did I? I think I was referring to Er mag nicht aufräumen. and Er mag Aufräumen nicht.
Actually, let's all head to #general-2 though if you people don't mind, since most people looking here for lessons will have no idea what is going on

[boreal zealot]

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[dapper cedar]

@tacit mauve thank you

[boreal zealot]

😅

[storm turret]

Wenn ein anderes Satzglied ins Vorfeld verlegt wird, verschwindet das Platzhalter-es einfach, wie man in Zweifelsfällen mit einer Verschiebeprobe zeigen kann.
from 'die grammtik' when referring to if 'es' can be removed.

(vorfeld refers to the part of the main clause before the verb)

[delicate vortex]

@tawdry gorge @high mantle i came accross a sentence exersise using mag and a verb today and it took a lot of energy to not automatically put zu in there. XD the answer key said no zu was correct

Suns das mag zu empfehlen sein is different grammar, its a passive Ersatzform with mag used to express the speakers opinion, not a zu clause

[tawdry gorge]

HOOOO

SLAM DUNKED

love you blu

👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩

your enthusiasm gets me pumped too

[delicate vortex]

❤️❤️❤️

I should ping sun too

@storm turret 💚

Thanks hecke sun bulli nate was a lovely grammar discussion

[high mantle]

Thank u, too, Bluwu :3
Btw, we continued a bit of it in #general-2 here:
https://discordapp.com/channels/221708975698083841/305746952929280001/750430181545607238

@delicate vortex

[hard apex]

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[hard apex]

7 UTC is... 2 am my time

Are there recordings of the lessons...

[hollow narwhal]

No toccata

[tawdry gorge]

No but we do repeat them sometimes

You can also request a specific lesson if youd like

[modern blade]

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[delicate vortex]

Please use the sessions command in bot channel

@hard apex this lesson aims for a comfortable European time, since the last run of lessons were run at a comfortable American time

It also needs to overlap with my time in Australia, so thats why the time for this lesson is really bad for some timezones

[wary atlas]

Yeah, we have one that's US/Australia and one that's Europe/Australia.

[hard apex]

I see. So it will not always be this way

[wary atlas]

The time is determined by the host.

[scarlet breach]

no lesson today?

[delicate vortex]

@scarlet breach tomorrow

[wary atlas]

@delicate vortex You moved it to tomorrow?

[scarlet breach]

that's the european time one

it starts at 1am?

@wary atlas had been doing them at this time

[wary atlas]

@scarlet breach The US time one is next weekend.

[scarlet breach]

ok ty sir

[wary atlas]

I took a break because I have a lot of uni assignments.

[scarlet breach]

ah. ok see you then!

[wary atlas]

@boreal zealot #botchannel

[boreal zealot]

oh sorry

my bad

[wary atlas]

@modern blade #botchannel

[tacit mauve]

<@&526087863339843585>

:loudspeaker: BlueBottletop issued a ping for Grammar

Session 31 (2020-09-06 at 07:00 UTC)

Hey lovely learners, today's grammar session on conjunctions starts in 1 hr!

[boreal zealot]

Hey, how do lessons work around here?

faq lessons

[delicate vortex]

@boreal zealot you just join the lessons voice chat when the lesson starts then good to go

you can ask questions in voice, or in this chat too if something pops up

[boreal zealot]

ok

thanks

[delicate vortex]

btw, please use #botchannel if you want to use the bot

[boreal zealot]

sorry about that

i'll take care

[upper lake]

3am...

[delicate vortex]

here are the lesson resources, we are working on lesson 4 this week: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/14MPdMqPTH9XVocvy__Hw7cMz5jSXZux-

base has also pinned them in this channel for refernce

@upper lake (remember this time was picked to be a comforable european time)

[upper lake]

Ohh I see

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:loudspeaker: BlueBottletop issued a ping for Grammar

Session 31 (2020-09-06 at 07:00 UTC)

k guys its lesson time!

[boreal zealot]

hey @delicate vortex , will you be speaking in english or german?

ok

[civic river]

hallo!

guten morgen

[green pebble]

hey! 😄

[hollow finch]

o/

[boreal zealot]

its noon here

[green pebble]

doable 😄 everything for german lesson 😄

[hollow finch]

7pm here

[green pebble]

9 am 😄

[hollow finch]

first one i've made

[civic river]

8 am

[boreal zealot]

are you a native speaker?

[green pebble]

nothing alarm clock can't handle 😄 just gimme a sec to setup computer 😄

[boreal zealot]

nice

[civic river]

we have a shrodinger

how probabilistic

[stoic scaffold]

It's 2 am here, but it's always German time, I think :)

[high mantle]

Guten Tag :3

[storm turret]

ich muss mich bald duschen aber mochte kurz hereinschauen

[delicate vortex]

|

[boreal zealot]

1. ||der; dem||

[daring flare]

|| Der mann findet den tuer nicht||

[stoic scaffold]

Ich kann nicht sagen, dass das ist mit einem Handy leicht zu machen lol

[civic river]

||Der Mann findet die Tür nicht.||

[hollow finch]

||Der Mann findet das Tür nicht.||
||Die Professorin schreibt das Breif||
||Er hat den Buch und das Stift||

[civic river]

||Er hat das Buch und den Stift||

[daring flare]

|| die professorin schreibt das Brief||

|| er hat das Buch und den Stift||

[civic river]

||Die Professorin schreibt den Brief||

[boreal zealot]

is Preffossorin a female professor?

[hollow finch]

Was heißt "Stift" in Englisch?

[boreal zealot]

*professorin

[civic river]

what does a Brief mean?

aa

[boreal zealot]

what is TÜR?

[still merlin]

1.d

how to write black?

[green pebble]

you have to write two of these on each side |

[boreal zealot]

why was pen in accusative in the last one?

[still merlin]

|eat|

|eat

[green pebble]

two

on each side

[still merlin]

|example|

|Example|

[green pebble]

||test||

[civic river]

||Hast du einen Bruder order eine Schwester?||

[green pebble]

so ||test||

[tawdry quartz]

| test |

[civic river]

||Ein Stuhl ist kaputt||

[tawdry quartz]

||test||

[daring flare]

|| last du einen Burder oder eine scwester?||

[boreal zealot]

||1. ein; eine||

[still merlin]

| test |

[daring flare]

|| einen stuhl ist kaputt||

[still merlin]

nevermind, i will write on the book and correct my self, thanks for helping

[civic river]

||Ich suche eine Tasche, einen Computer und ein Buch||

[boreal zealot]

||oh, ok so brother is in accusative? because we have a brother?||

[daring flare]

|| och suche eine tasche, einen computer und ein buch||

yeah i tried to use only the ones above

heinrich meaning?

|| Heinrich muss das Buch lesen||

[green pebble]

||Heinrich muss das Buch lesen||

[civic river]

||Heinrich muss das Buch lesen||

[tawdry quartz]

||Heinrich muss das Buch lesen.||

[stoic scaffold]

(ich soll jetzt zum Bett gehen aber vielen dank für deine Zeit so zu verbringen!)

[daring flare]

modal verbs put the second verb as infinitive at the end

[boreal zealot]

||2. warum ihr mögen das Lied ||

[daring flare]

|| warum ihr mochte das lied||

[boreal zealot]

||Heinrich mussen lessen das Buch||

[daring flare]

ohh is mogen not morgen

[tawdry quartz]

||warum mögt ihr das Lied||

[boreal zealot]

||Heinrich mussen das Buch lessen ?||

😮

i didnt know we had to change form

[civic river]

||Warum mõgt ihr das Leid?||

[boreal zealot]

ok

[storm turret]

yep english has them

subordinate, coordinate, and correlative (equivalent to german two part conjunctions), and adverbial/adjectival clauses are all in english if anyone wants to read up about them to help you better understand their german equivalents

[still merlin]

thank you sun

[civic river]

is it only like that with weil?

oh

[daring flare]

https://study.com/academy/lesson/german-denn-weil.html#:~:text=Denn and weil are both,that can be used interchangeably.&text=While denn does not affect,a comma before either conjunction.

u can check this

as well

[civic river]

danke

[storm turret]

this page also has a nice list: https://deutsch.lingolia.com/en/grammar/sentence-structure/dependent-clauses/conjunctions

[civic river]

Thanks 🙂

[storm turret]

tip: if you can replace 'dass/das' with a neutral noun then use 'das', if you can't use 'dass'
e.g. Ich sehe, dass/das du schön bist. < can dass/das be replaced with a noun there? If not then use dass.

Ich sehe das Mädchen, das schön ist.
see how the 'das' there refers to 'das Mädchen' whereas the 'dass' in the first sentence refers to nothing

[civic river]

||Sie reist so viel dass ich sie selten sehe||

[daring flare]

|| sie reist so viel, deshalb sehe ich sie selten||

[green pebble]

so there are two because, weil and denn
when to use which?

[storm turret]

'denn' can never start a sentence, but otherwise they're the same

they only change in grammar

[daring flare]

weil is more independent to say and dass is not

[civic river]

||Ich sehe sie selten, weil sie so viel reist||

is this correct?

[green pebble]

||Ich sehe sie selten weil sie so viel reist.||

👍

[daring flare]

|| heute haben wir unseren deutschekurs , aber wir sind nicht im klassenzimmer||

[storm turret]

weil ich müde bin, schlafe ich.
ich schlafe, weil ich müde bin.
denn ich bin müde, schlafe ich
ich schlafe, denn ich bin müde
for all intents and purpose the meaning is however the same. (there is a minute difference but that's C2 level stuff and not worth worrying about unless you're writing a linguistics paper)

[delicate vortex]

Woah sun stealing slides much

[storm turret]

lmao bik lieb

[green pebble]

what means bik lieb?

[civic river]

||Heute haben wir unseren Deutschkurs, aber wir nicht sind im Klassenzimmer||

[green pebble]

ahso

can you tell us other conjunctions that work?

before you move on I mean

[daring flare]

||heute haven wir unseren deutschekurs, waehren wir nicht im klasszimmer sind ||

check this

i tried to do smth else

[storm turret]

don't forget to put verb in the second position in the main sentence/clause (coordinating conjunctions take position 0)

[green pebble]

thanks

wahrend is what then? adverb?

[still merlin]

Sie reist so viel [dass] ich sehe sie selten ( she travels alot, thats why i rarely saw her) . is that right?

[meager tulip]

während dem wir nicht im klassenzimmer sind maybe

[civic river]

yeah

[still merlin]

yes please

[civic river]

so the 2nd one switches the verbs in both clauses, right?

[green pebble]

nope, whole nebensatz is the first position

[civic river]

humm

[green pebble]

check, nebensatz looks exactly the same

[civic river]

yes please, if you may

[delicate vortex]

Ich kaufe ein, weil ich kein Brot mehr habe

[civic river]

@green pebble what is a nebensatz ?

[green pebble]

subordinate clause, this additional sentence that cannot stand alone and be meaningful

[delicate vortex]

Weil eich keine Brot mehr habe, kaufe ich ein.

[civic river]

if I do: weil ich kein Brot mehr habe, kaufe ich ein

is it correct?

ahh yes

[green pebble]

so you can have ich kaufe ein alone
but weil ich kein Brot mehr habe cannot stand alone

[civic river]

I see

[green pebble]

so you combine them like ich kaufe ein, [x]
or [x], kaufe ich ein

[daring flare]

idk why the mistake don t sound poetic for me

[green pebble]

and now you see that kaufe is always on the second position

[civic river]

i see

[green pebble]

yes please

examples

woohooo

[delicate vortex]

Er war krank, deshalb konnte er nicht zur Party kommen

[green pebble]

I just wanted to ask for typing, sound is a bit breaking so I do not quite understand short stuff 😄

no, it might be my side

it is more like it takes some little time to start sending the sound so first milisecond gets cut off

[daring flare]

is called letacy

[green pebble]

so when you do not make pauses it is fine, but for short yes no

I think it may be also discord noise cancelling or something
I didn't notice it with everyone

[daring flare]

yeah is the internet lag xD everyone has that

[civic river]

discord is buggy too sometimes

[daring flare]

true that

[green pebble]

oh, maybe difference with push to talk vs automatic recognition when someone talks? like it takes time for discord to start transmitting

[still merlin]

i thought aussedem means "also"

[daring flare]

there are many facts let s keep this in general or kill it

[delicate vortex]

Diese Strahlen wurden von Rötgen entdeckt, daher/deswegen/deshalb/darum heißen sie Rötgenstrahlen.

[green pebble]

kill, just wanted to say to blu that it's not her fault 🙂

[daring flare]

Diese Strahlen wurden von Rötgen entdeckt, daher/deswegen/deshalb/darum heißen sie Rötgenstrahlen.
@delicate vortex

These rays were discovered by Rötgen, hence / therefore / therefore / therefore they are called X-rays.

this is what google translated

[delicate vortex]

Ich habe heute keine Lust spazieren zu gehen, zudem ist das Wetter ganz schlecht.

[daring flare]

i still don t get daher

all right

[civic river]

what if there's a negation in the second clause?

how would the verb repositioning work?

[tardy prawn]

daher is rather rare in spoken language anyway @daring flare

most people use deshalb/deswegen

[elfin bay]

ich bin mir sicher, dass er uns nicht sehen kann

[daring flare]

ok ty

[civic river]

thank you ma'am

[green pebble]

thank you!

[daring flare]

good bye people

[civic river]

Guten Tag

[delicate vortex]

Thank you all for coming today! I hope you all have a lovely day/evening

[green pebble]

you too!

[still merlin]

thank you so much, wish you have a nice day and keep spirit

[delicate vortex]

Sorry if my voice broke up during the lesson

[daring flare]

you 2

is ok dw

[tacit mauve]

:x: The argument time (Modalverben ) is malformed.

[tawdry gorge]

session create Grammar 23h52m Modalverben 2: electric boogaloo. This time we'll be going over Sollen, Wollen and Müssen. Reccomended level B/C. Looking forward to seeing you there :3

[tacit mauve]

Okay @tawdry gorge. Your session has been scheduled for in 23 hours and 52 minutes.

[tacit mauve]

<@&526087863339843585>

:loudspeaker: hecke issued a ping for Grammar

Modalverben 2: electric boogaloo. Monday 11pm CET. This time we'll be going over Sollen, Wollen and Müssen. Reccomended level B/C. Looking forward to seeing you there :3

[fossil panther]

oh shit

[tawdry gorge]

fuck yeck

[golden coral]

Wird es um die Mitternacht in EU?

[cobalt forum]

23:00 German time

[hollow narwhal]

Welcome back moai

[sacred grove]

yuck feck

[tacit mauve]

<@&526087863339843585>

:loudspeaker: hecke issued a ping for Grammar

lesson on Modalverben starting nowwwww :D

[fossil panther]

oh no i can't do it now

horko im sorry

[delicate vortex]

Eee

Lesson

[fossil panther]

im gonan cry

[trim lava]

Damn I came for the landscape pics

:^)))

😻

[rain flint]

RUDE

you're meant to learn things here?

🤡

[delicate vortex]

Schildkröten sind vielzu süß um nervig zu sein 🐢

[trim lava]

ö

[delicate vortex]

I cant hear anything

[trim lava]

hecke died :^(((((

[delicate vortex]

Is that just my internet

[tawdry gorge]

:(

[trim lava]

jeeetz

[tawdry gorge]

haben/sein

geschlafen

ich kann Deutsch

[sharp hemlock]

Wie schwarz ist das?

[tawdry gorge]

what do you mean sirlich

[sharp hemlock]

Schwer?

Hard? ._.

How hard is this lesson 😆

[tawdry gorge]

koennen

[sharp hemlock]

Danke schon 🙏

Das ist ein buscien schwer fur mich

@carmine glen du kanst heir sehen:

[trim lava]

I can only come up with one example where you could use that sorta sentence structure lol

so don't worry too much :3

Imagine the gubernment be like" Hey ihr könnt jetzt nicht demonstrieren!"
then you could say something like: "Neineinein, wir müssen hier demonstrieren dürfen" Aka. It's our right, but very weirdly said lol

[delicate vortex]

The gubernment 🙂

[trim lava]

yes da gubernment ❤️

[rain flint]

gub'mint*

[night magnet]

achso
danke
jetzt ich verstehe

[delicate vortex]

Hecke was there another müssen replacement

Theres a formal one but i forgot it

Haben zu mayyyybe

Nee es war wirklich komisch

Und nur in formalen Umständen

Zu benutzen

Moment ich mach es kurz mal ausfindig

[tawdry gorge]

haben + zu + infinitiv

du hast das sofort zu tun - du musst das sofort tun

[trim lava]

whew idk Blu lol

[heady whale]

ouuu new thing i learned

[trim lava]

do you mean something like nötig?

😓

[delicate vortex]

Alle Verkehrsteilnehmer haben die Verkehrsregeln zu beachten.

[wary atlas]

Du hast sich diese Deutschstunde anzuhören.

[delicate vortex]

Ein Beispiel in der Amtsprache ^

[trim lava]

is it really sich? lol

[wary atlas]

Not sure.

[trim lava]

I'd get it with a dir lol

[wary atlas]

Oh.

Ja, dir.

[trim lava]

Du hast diesen Teller leerzuessen REEEEEE

• A mother somewhere in Germany

[tiny dragon]

this speaks to me ^^^

[shell tundra]

lol

[lime kettle]

Is that a polite way to say "dont do smthng?"

[delicate vortex]

Nich brauchen can only be used in the case of nicht müssen as a modal

Das muss ein fehler sein is an opinion

(And has no nicht lol)

[trim lava]

of course blame the fkken cat 😾

[tawdry gorge]

müssen -> müssten -> dürften -> können/könnten/mögen

[delicate vortex]

Es mag die Katze sein, die die Vase zerbrochen hat

Aber es war eigentlich der Einbrecher

Der Fernseher ist auch weg, es müsste die Katze gewesen sein 🤔

[trim lava]

Definitiv ❤️

[delicate vortex]

Wie heißt logical deduction auf Deutsch?

Nicht wichtig lol

[trim lava]

du meinst wohl

logische Schlussfolgerung(en)!!!

[tiny dragon]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ableitung_(Logik)

[trim lava]

Jaaa

:3

[toxic schooner]

Yes

[trim lava]

2nd one is very important in school settings everyone :^)

no that just happens a lot with students ;))

[delicate vortex]

Hmmmm ich habe meine Hausaufgabe vergessen. Sie hätten sie schon schreiben müssen?

[tiny dragon]

lol

[delicate vortex]

Yes

Exemple me

[tiny dragon]

Ja 🙂

[trim lava]

Tja Blu hätte ihre Hausaufgaben schon machen sollen (denn jetzt gibt's Ärger vom Lehrer 🙀 )

[tawdry gorge]

Ich hätte mich vielleicht anders ausdrücken müssen

[tiny dragon]

||Perhaps I should have said that differently||

[trim lava]

|| Try it yourself first y'all ||

[delicate vortex]

||i should? Have expressed myself differently ||

[dark garnet]

|| I should’ve done sth?||

[tiny dragon]

Ja

[empty ice]

Hallo

[delicate vortex]

Was

Ahhh schhön

[trim lava]

We all can hear your beautiful voice you nerd :^)

|| something ||

[empty ice]

😊

[tawdry gorge]

@boreal zealot sorry I muted you since your mic was picking up a lot, tell me if yu fixed it

[delicate vortex]

Müssen vs sollen in this sentence?

[tiny dragon]

Wie heißt -> | auf deutsch?

[lime kettle]

|| I probably had to type smth else(but i didnt) ||

[delicate vortex]

Worin besteht der Unterschied?

[clever tide]

||perhaps I should have expressed myself differently||

[shell tundra]

|| perhaps I must have expressed something else..? ||

[trim lava]

nearly 😄

[tiny dragon]

the pipe character

[trim lava]

Idk I always call it pipe cuz I'm a nerd :<

[shell tundra]

ach so xD

[delicate vortex]

Gerade Linie zeichending XD

[rich grotto]

||I should have said something different||

[tiny dragon]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkrechter_Strich

[trim lava]

Innovativ!

[delicate vortex]

Ahh i see

Its meaning is a bit softer

[dark garnet]

F** behave

[tawdry gorge]

She ought to have told me (müssen)#

[clever tide]

||sie sollte mir erzählen haben oder sie müsste mir erzählen haben||

[tiny dragon]

|| Sie hätte mir das sagen sollen ||

[elfin lake]

||sie muesste heute mich gespricht||

[trim lava]

||DES HÄTT SE MIA ETZA FEI SAGN SOLLN!!||

[delicate vortex]

||sie müsste es mir mitgeteilt haben (i think she said it to me)||

[trim lava]

sorry

[lime kettle]

|| Sie hätte es mir erzählen ||

[tardy prawn]

Hey at least it’s a good hint @trim lava

[dark garnet]

||Sie sollte mich erzählen ||

[trim lava]

if you can decipher it lmao

rude!

[tardy prawn]

Not so hard tho tbh

[delicate vortex]

|| sie hätte es mir sagen müssen (she must have said it to me, who else would it be)||

[rich grotto]

||Sie hätte mir erzählt müssen. ||

[trim lava]

Blu so formal I'm impressed :^)

[delicate vortex]

War es mitteilen?

[tardy prawn]

Blus sounds the best

Imo

[delicate vortex]

Sie hätte es erzählen sollen, da sie vor Gericht gestanden war!

[tiny dragon]

👍

[delicate vortex]

Is that an okay use of sollen

[regal kernel]

It's fine

[trim lava]

Ist sie jetzt im Knast Blu? Lol

[tardy prawn]

Yes @delicate vortex

[delicate vortex]

Genau felines

[tawdry gorge]

That must be a fake

[delicate vortex]

Bitte

[shell tundra]

ja bitte

[night magnet]

ja

[tiny dragon]

||Das muss eine Fälschung sein||

[delicate vortex]

Eine Nachahmung?

[clever tide]

||das muss eine Fälschung sein||

[dark garnet]

|| Das ist sicher eine Fälschung ||

[trim lava]

Talking about a Fälschung?

[tawdry gorge]

eine Fälschung/Imitation

[delicate vortex]

Danke ❤️

[lime kettle]

|| Es muss eine Fälschung sein ||

[elfin lake]

||Das muesste sein eine fälschung||

[regal kernel]

Das muesste Fake sein

[trim lava]

Take the first one hecke sounds better lol

[delicate vortex]

|| das muss/müsste eine Fälschung sein ||

[shell tundra]

||Das muss eine Fälschung sein||

[dark garnet]

Wie bitte?😳

[tiny dragon]

ich glaube das Fälschung am meisten benutzt wird

[tawdry gorge]

müssen -> müssten -> dürften -> können/könnten/mögen

[elfin lake]

ich verstehe danke

[delicate vortex]

Yes Nouns should be capitalised

[dark garnet]

|| Das muss eine Fälschung sein||

[trim lava]

Hecke sounding scary

👀

[delicate vortex]

Es wird vorwürfe geben!

[finite raven]

Ich bin spät gekommen

[trim lava]

😰

[finite raven]

Hab ich viel vermisst

[shell tundra]

xD

[finite raven]

McH*, like Scottish 😂

[delicate vortex]

Die Verbrechen werden nach Australien geschickt XD

[regal kernel]

Sie wusste selbst nicht, was sie tun sollte

[trim lava]

I love how her sarcastic voice sounds Austrian 😏

[delicate vortex]

Ouch

Oh Austrian

Lol i read australian

[rich grotto]

So how it is said would play in as well?

[tiny dragon]

there are no kangaroos in Austria 😛

[night magnet]

Hab ich viel vermisst
@finite raven
verpasst ist hier richtig glaube ich

[finite raven]

Danke!

Is the second one outside of the speaker’s control?

The shouldnt happen again one

Or is it like “this shall not happen again”

👍

[delicate vortex]

Wie stark ist der Vergleich zwischen „es sollte nicht wieder vorkommen“ und „es soll nicht wieder vorkommen“?

[finite raven]

Is “sollte” konjuktiv ii

Or is it both

[delicate vortex]

Its k2 ja

[finite raven]

Konjuktiv ii and praeteritum

[delicate vortex]

Und Präteritum jaaaa

[regal kernel]

Why does it make me feel like it should be machen rather anschauen.

[delicate vortex]

Da war es als k2 gemeint

[trim lava]

Okok Blu let's see:

If you had a problem with your PC and the tech guy says „es sollte nicht wieder vorkommen“, there's still a chance it might happen again (it's just not expected)

If it then happens again and you complain to his boss and he tells him "es soll nicht wieder vorkommen“, it better not happen again :3

[delicate vortex]

Accch so ja der Unterschied liegt an der Wahrscheinlichkeit

[tawdry gorge]

würden

[delicate vortex]

Laut Quelle habe es bisher 4 Tote bei den Unruhen gegeben?

Schön

Is sollen just a direct report

No opinion attached

(Im comparing to wollen)

[regal kernel]

Warum sollte ich denn Maske tragen

JK

[trim lava]

*eine Maske :^)))

[delicate vortex]

The difference is sarcasm

The dIfereEnce is sAAAchaSm

[trim lava]

\o/

[tawdry gorge]

Das soll dir eine Warnung sein

[delicate vortex]

|| let that be a warning to you! ||

[tiny dragon]

||This should be a warning to you||

[tawdry gorge]

||

[elfin lake]

||that should be a warning to you||

[lime kettle]

|| This shall/should be a warning to you||

[rich grotto]

||There should have been a warning||

[dark garnet]

||that should be a warning for u||

Dino 😂

ok hmm

[rich grotto]

||That's a warning||

[delicate vortex]

|| Umformulierung?: sei das dir eine Warnung!||

[tiny dragon]

||Take that as a warning||

[elfin lake]

||consider this a warning||

[delicate vortex]

Danke danke danke Hecke vielmals

[trim lava]

||Lass dies dir eine Lektion sein Blu!!||

sorry

[delicate vortex]

Äähhh was hab ich getan Katzl

[trim lava]

Nix lmao

[delicate vortex]

;-;