lessons

[cobalt forum]

very literal

[hollow narwhal]

||Wassermelone||

[cobalt forum]

||die Wassermelone, Wassermelonen||

[modern star]

||die Wassermelone, die Wassermelonen||

[hollow narwhal]

Yes!!!

[cobalt forum]

||die Honigmelone, ...melonen||

[outer vector]

||die Ananas, Ananas||

[trim ferry]

||Die Anana?||

[modern star]

||die Ananas, Ananas||

[hollow narwhal]

What's a cantaloupe?

I want to see if it has Melone

[fiery dagger]

Gibt es ein "melone"?

[cobalt forum]

||die Ananas, Ananas(se)||

[hollow narwhal]

Rock melon?

[hasty spire]

wait.. what fruit is die ananas

[hollow narwhal]

Oh it's called a rock melon in Aussie

It kind of looks like a rock I guess

[trim ferry]

Cantaloupe and honey melon are 2 different melons for me

[hollow narwhal]

Apt name

[fiery dagger]

I just learned about rock melons now

[trim ferry]

So a rock melon is a cantaloupe?

[cobalt forum]

There aren't that many differnt kinds of melons available in germany, so i'm not sure

[hollow narwhal]

Yeah. It's Aussie

Laura

[trim ferry]

That's cool

[hollow narwhal]

Or messed up

😂

[cobalt forum]

||die Ananas, Ananas(se)||

[fiery dagger]

die Ana👃

[cobalt forum]

||die Weintraube, ...trauben||

[hasty spire]

die Trauben

[trim ferry]

What is Traube vs. Weintraube?

[outer vector]

||die Tomate, Tomaten||

[cobalt forum]

||die Tomate, Tomaten||

[outer vector]

does anyone still need the fruit typed in chat

trax?

[cobalt forum]

||der Pfirsich, Pfirsiche||

[outer vector]

||die Pfirsich, Pfirsiche||

[cobalt forum]

check gender

[trim ferry]

that is hard to pronounce

[outer vector]

i think it's ich laut

[hasty spire]

I can't pronounce it well Lol

[cobalt forum]

(Pf=F in most regions in Germany)

[rich wedge]

I'll have to leave guys 😩😭

I can barely hear a thing

[cobalt forum]

||die Aprikose, Aprikosen||

[hasty spire]

what what fruit is this?

[round oar]

I don't even know what an apricot is 😅

[cobalt forum]

||🇦🇹 die Marille, Marillen||

[round oar]

yeah, sorry

spanish

[rich wedge]

I guess Turkish

[fiery dagger]

In spanish its albaricoque

[cobalt forum]

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prunus_armeniaca ?

[round oar]

yeah, I just searched it but no idea 😆

Thanks tho!

[fiery dagger]

I have a tree, they taste great

[round oar]

Everything fine here!

[cobalt forum]

easy one

[outer vector]

||die Mango, Mangos||

[fiery dagger]

I guess its the same

[trim ferry]

||Die Mango?||

[cobalt forum]

||die Mango, Mangos||

[fiery dagger]

I would have said der mango 😩

gender is cursed

[hybrid ore]

Gibt es vielen Mangos in Deutschland?

[cobalt forum]

||die Kirsche, Kirschen||

[fiery dagger]

I dont think so

[cobalt forum]

@hybrid ore eher selten

[trim ferry]

||Die Kirche?||

[fiery dagger]

MAngos need a near-tropical climate

[boreal zealot]

Rule of thumb is a lot of feminine words end in E but not always

[outer vector]

it says "stream paused" on my side so i wasn't aware we moved on

[fiery dagger]

||Die Kirsche||

[hasty spire]

what fruit is this?

[fiery dagger]

I have a mango tree too!

[outer vector]

cherry

[trim ferry]

oh boy those 1 letter different words are gonna be the end of me

[cobalt forum]

Süß-/Sauerkirsche (for eating directly/for conserving, making jam or marmelade)

[fiery dagger]

Was zum Teufel? Man isst sauer Kirsche?

[outer vector]

||die Erdbeere, Erdbeeren||

[round oar]

Your pronunciation is amazing! 😱

[hasty spire]

die erdbeeren?

[hybrid ore]

Beere?

[trim ferry]

||Die Erdbeere, Erdbeeren?||

[cobalt forum]

||die Erdbeere, Erdbeeren||

@fiery dagger selten direkt vom Baum, aber eingemachte Kirschen sind fast alles Sauerkirschen

[trim ferry]

like Earth berry?

[outer vector]

||die Himbeere, Himbeeren||

[cobalt forum]

||die Himbeere, ...beeren||

[outer vector]

ja das weiss ich nicht

[hybrid ore]

die Schwarzbeere?

😦

[cobalt forum]

||die Brombeere, Brombeeren||

[fiery dagger]

Was bedeutet Brom?

[outer vector]

bramble

[cobalt forum]

same root word as "brambles"

[outer vector]

||die Blaubeere, Blaubeeren||

[hasty spire]

die blaubeere

[hybrid ore]

Blaubeere!

[drifting surge]

Was bedeutet Brom?
@fiery dagger Brom kommt aus "Bramo" (Althochdeutsch) und bedeutet Dornstauch

[fiery dagger]

same root word as "brambles"
@cobalt forum Makes sense, thank you

[cobalt forum]

||die Heidelbeere, ...beeren||

[boreal zealot]

@fiery dagger Brom kommt aus "Bramo" (Althochdeutsch) und bedeutet Dornstauch
@drifting surge noch nie gehört, man lernt immer was neues

[drifting surge]

Etymologien sind interessant 😄

[fiery dagger]

Und was bedeutet Heidel-?

Wie in Heidelberg?

[cobalt forum]

"aus der Heide (engl. heath)"

[drifting surge]

👆

[fiery dagger]

Thank you

Its easier to remember these names like that

At least for me

Yea when its something-berry

[cobalt forum]

||die Pflaume, Pflaumen||

[outer vector]

||die Avocado, Avocados||

[trim ferry]

is it just ||die Avocado?||

[cobalt forum]

||die Avo(k/c)ado, Avo(k/c)ados||

[mild zenith]

|die avocado|

ok

[hybrid ore]

In Deutschland sind sie Teuer? Sind sie gut?

[fiery dagger]

doch

[cobalt forum]

relativ teuer, da sie noch nicht lange in Deutschland verkauft werden und bei Hipstern beliebt sind

[trim ferry]

keine Ahnung

[hasty spire]

is that a grapefruit?

[hybrid ore]

weintraubenobst

[cobalt forum]

||die Grapefruit/die Pampelmuse||

[hasty spire]

||Die traubenobst||

[mild zenith]

||die grapefruit||

[hasty spire]

awh :c

[trim ferry]

Oh similar to French pamplemousse

[cobalt forum]

guessing Pampelmuse in the "napoleonic west"

[trim ferry]

||Die Aubergine?||

[fiery dagger]

||Eierpflanze||

[hasty spire]

||Eierpflanze||
@fiery dagger thats what i was thinking

[cobalt forum]

||die Aubergine, Auberginen||

[trim ferry]

heck yeah hit me with more french words

[cobalt forum]

try to pronounce it as close to french as you can 😉

[hasty spire]

heck yeah hit me with more french words
@trim ferry Lmao

[trim ferry]

yes it's Orange in french

[outer vector]

they even adopt the nasal vowels

[fiery dagger]

They should just spell it Oranje

[outer vector]

geen nederlands

[cobalt forum]

@trim ferry also as close to french as you can manage (Orangsche otherwise)

[outer vector]

||die Papaya, Papayas||

[fiery dagger]

||die Papaya, die Papayas||

[hasty spire]

||Die papaya, die Papayas|| >:o

[fiery dagger]

Passion fruit has smooth skin

[cobalt forum]

||die Passionsfrucht, ...früchte||

[trim ferry]

Passion fruit is like a shell of slimy seeds

[cobalt forum]

||die Drachenfrucht, ...früchte||

[fiery dagger]

Ive picked yellow ones from the forest in brazil!

[hasty spire]

do they taste nice? :/

[round oar]

do they taste nice? :/
@hasty spire Oh yeeeah

[fiery dagger]

Its like its filled with frog eggs

[cobalt forum]

in Germany you'll probably find them only as an ingredient in fruit yoghurt

[hasty spire]

Its like its filled with frog eggs
@fiery dagger i-

[fiery dagger]

Frog eggs are less sweet tho

[trim ferry]

I can't say I've ever eaten frog eggs

[fiery dagger]

The last syllabe is stressed i think

MaracuYA

[mild zenith]

||die passionsfrucht is that correct? ||

[outer vector]

in german it seems to be stressed on "cu"

[fiery dagger]

German is cursed

[trim ferry]

It looks like a lychee from the picture

[cobalt forum]

die Mara(k/c)uja

[trim ferry]

I don't know if rambutan is something different

[rich wedge]

@fiery dagger 😂

[cobalt forum]

||die Lit(s)chi, Lit(s)chis||

[trim ferry]

I would guess ||Die litchi||

[hasty spire]

I dont even know what that fruit is called tbh

[rich wedge]

😂

[fiery dagger]

||die Granate/Granaten??||

[outer vector]

thats what i think

:/

[cobalt forum]

||der Granatapfel, ...äpfel||

[upper lake]

:O

krass

[hasty spire]

where did the "Apfel" come from lmao

[fiery dagger]

Pomme is apple too

[hasty spire]

really?

[fiery dagger]

Yea in frenchsie

[cobalt forum]

it looks like one

[outer vector]

"Granate" would mean "grenade" right?

[hasty spire]

i didnt know that

[outer vector]

i couldn't name any more fruits

[mild zenith]

is it because the word endings is why they the apple and peach are masculine?

[wary atlas]

faq gender patterns

[tacit mauve]

gender patterns

Unfortunately, many German words don't have immediately clear clues that reveal it, but thankfully, many common words do follow patterns that reveal their gender.
In general, you are advised to learn the article together with the word (and its plural!).
Plural forms always use die and follow plural declension rules, which are the same for all genders (yay 🎉).
Type >explain grammatical gender for an explanation on grammatical gender.

Here's a list of patterns to recognise word gender.
Note that exceptions may apply.

💙 Masculine words (der):

• profession/role names (der Verkäufer, der Lehrer)
• many elements of time (der Tag, der Monat, der Winter)
• cardinal directions (der Norden, der Süden)
• words ending in:
  -- -ig der König, der Teig
  -- -ling der Neuling, der Schwächling
  -- -ant der Praktikant, der Elefant
  -- -ismus der Faschismus, der Sozialismus

💚 Neuter words (das):

• nominalised verbs (das Leben, das Lesen)
• metals (das Gold, das Kupfer)
• babies and cubs (das Baby, das Lamm)
• diminutives in -chen/-lein (das Hündchen)
• words ending in:
  -- -ment das Experiment, das Sakrament
  -- -ma (usually of Greek origin) das Komma, das Thema

❤️ Feminine words (die):

• many words ending in -e (die Nase, die Kiste)
• words ending in:
  -- -in (feminine professions/roles): die Verkäuferin, die Lehrerin
  -- -ei die Fischerei, die Bäckerei
  -- -schaft die Mannschaft, die Gemeinschaft
  -- -heit/-keit die Freiheit, die Gerechtigkeit
  -- -ung die Bedeutung, die Achtung
  -- -ion die Aktion, die Religion
  -- -ik die Logistik, die Logik
  -- -anz words of classical origin: die Allianz, die Toleranz
  -- -ur die Natur, die Kultur
  -- -tät die Professionalität, die Kriminalität

[cobalt forum]

(Dialect only, again napoleonic west) Ähdappel/Erdapfel->Pomme de terre [Kartoffel] if you want more pomme similarities

[fiery dagger]

Tasty stuff

[hasty spire]

die kartoffel

[outer vector]

||die Kartoffel, Kartoffeln||

[hasty spire]

?

[mild zenith]

|| die kartoffel||

[trim ferry]

||Die Kartoffel||

[fiery dagger]

||die kartoffel, kartoffeln||

[trim ferry]

Are vegetables mostly die like fruits were?

[cobalt forum]

more evenly spread between all 3

[wary atlas]

die Grundbirne

[outer vector]

||die Karotte, Karotten||

[fiery dagger]

||die Karotte, Karotten||

[trim ferry]

||Die karotte||

[upper lake]

||die Karotte||

[mild zenith]

||die karrot||

[outer vector]

light mode

[cobalt forum]

https://www.atlas-alltagssprache.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/9_01k.jpg

[upper lake]

o

[trim ferry]

woah

[outer vector]

||der Zwiebel, Zwiebeln||

[hasty spire]

die lettuce.

[trim ferry]

onion is ||die Zwiebel|| I think,no idea about lettuce

[mild zenith]

||die Zwiebel||

[fiery dagger]

||der Salat/Salate, die Zwiebel/Zwiebeln||

[outer vector]

jaaa

ferch

der i think tho

for the former

[fiery dagger]

Fixed

[rich wedge]

die Zwiebel

[cobalt forum]

der (Kopf-)Salat [Dialect only: Lattich]

[fiery dagger]

I love Lattich

[upper lake]

🇱🇻

a head of lettuce?

C:

[outer vector]

imagine having lettuce in your salad

[trim ferry]

Salat Salat?

[cobalt forum]

It's the base you need for most (green) salads

||die Zwiebel, Zwiebeln||

[hasty spire]

||die gelb zwiebel?||

[outer vector]

was a guess

[fiery dagger]

Gelb und rot? Sie sehen weiss und lila aus

||der gurken, die gurken||

[outer vector]

||die Guerkin, Guerkin?||

[mild zenith]

||der gherkin?||

[cobalt forum]

||die Gurke, Gurken||

[outer vector]

yay close but wrong!

[trim ferry]

is a pickle a Sauergurke?

[outer vector]

||der Knoblauch, Knoblauchen||

[trim ferry]

||Der Knoblauch||

[cobalt forum]

||der Knoblauch (Pflanze)/das Knoblauch (Gewürz)||

[fiery dagger]

||der Knoblauch, Knoblauche||

[cobalt forum]

@trim ferry Gewürzgurke/ Essiggurke/Cornichon

[outer vector]

||der Pils, Pilsen||

[hasty spire]

wait, but what about a garlic clove?

[trim ferry]

||Der Pilz||

[wary atlas]

die Knoblauchzehe, -n = garlic clove

[hasty spire]

Oh Danke!

[outer vector]

plural?

[fiery dagger]

zehe? 🦶

[hasty spire]

Lmao

[fiery dagger]

In spanish its a garlic tooth

[outer vector]

||Suessekartoffel?||

[hasty spire]

||Die Susskartoffel?||

[trim ferry]

||Die Sußkartoffel?||

[cobalt forum]

||die Süßkartoffel, -n||

[wary atlas]

Süß

[cobalt forum]

||der grüne/weiße Spargel, no plural||

[outer vector]

forgot but something similar/shorter iirc

[trim ferry]

||das Kraut||

[cobalt forum]

||der Rot-/Weißkohl, no plural||

[fiery dagger]

||die Kohl,Kohle||

[cobalt forum]

@trim ferry that's just weeds (and not the smoking kind)

[wary atlas]

der Kräutertee = herbal tea

[fiery dagger]

||die Kurbis, Kurbise||

[cobalt forum]

||der Kürbis, -se||

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_kuri_squash is the one you'll find in german stores (der Hokkaidokürbis)

||das Radieschen, die Radieschen||

[fiery dagger]

Theyre common in those street stands where there is noone looking after the pumpkins and youre supposed to take them and put the money in a box

[trim ferry]

so Is Squash also Kürbis?

[fiery dagger]

Well, at least around october/november

[cobalt forum]

I think so, there isn't a whole lot of variety in german stores for squash/pumpkin

[wary atlas]

-chen

sch

Radies/chen

[trim ferry]

||Die Bohnen||

I don't think I've ever referred to one single bean before

[hasty spire]

||Die GrünBohne?||

[cobalt forum]

die grüne Bohne/ die Gartenbohne

[wary atlas]

die Fisole

[cobalt forum]

never heard that one. 🇦🇹 ?

[elfin bay]

||Bohne? das interssiert mich nicht die Bohne!||
||(this is an idiom - it means it isn't important - becuase single beans aren't really important on their own... someone who thinks single beans are important is called "Erbsenzähler" he who counts peas||

[trim ferry]

||Die Paprika?||

[cobalt forum]

||die rote/gelbe/grüne Paprika (Gemüse)/der Paprika (Gewürz)||

[boreal zealot]

Hallo alle

[hasty spire]

Der rotepaprika??

[boreal zealot]

The articles could change depending on the grammar but I’m not sure about vegetables

ich weiss nicht

[elfin bay]

another one of those regionally debated things?

[wary atlas]

https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Paprika_Pflanze_Gewuerz

[cobalt forum]

when in doubt go with Duden

[outer vector]

||die Maize?||

[cobalt forum]

||der Mais/der Maiskolben, pl: die Maiskolben||

[trim ferry]

||Der mais?||

[elfin bay]

||der Maiskolben 🌽/ die Maiskolben🌽🌽🌽||

[cobalt forum]

||der Sellerie||

[fiery dagger]

selerig

[boreal zealot]

Ich Weiss nicht

[cobalt forum]

||🇦🇹 der Zeller||

[boreal zealot]

Maybe it’s die something

[cobalt forum]

zwei Stauden Sellerie/zwei Stangen Sellerie

[wary atlas]

@boreal zealot Your mic is kinda loud so you might want to mute yourself.

[cobalt forum]

die (Speise-)Rübe

[elfin bay]

as opposed to Zuckerrübe

[cobalt forum]

or Futterrübe (to feed to animals)

||die Olive, -n||

||der Bro(kk/cc)oli, -s||

[fiery dagger]

keine ahnung

[outer vector]

Da ich keine Ahnung habe, sage ich Tschilli

[fiery dagger]

Kayenne?

[cobalt forum]

die Chili(-schote) (no difference in color)

||der Blumenkohl||

||die rote Beete||

[outer vector]

i have no idea what that even is

[cobalt forum]

||der Fenchel||

@outer vector rote Beete: really delicious when pickled, Fenchel: great as tea (also rarely eaten cooked)

[elfin bay]

fennel is a delicious plant from the carrot family that is nice to flavor teas and honey

[cobalt forum]

||die Artischocke, -n||

[outer vector]

i've had beets but that's interesting to know :)

kurzes O?

does zucchini have another name in english

[cobalt forum]

||die Frühlingszwiebel, -n|| (seems also to be called Winterzwiebel/Frühzwiebel)

[boreal zealot]

I think it’s just zucchini

[wary atlas]

Courgette

[boreal zealot]

Ohh that’s British English

[trim ferry]

and French

[outer vector]

ah yeah

[boreal zealot]

They say it in Britain

[trim ferry]

soft G

[boreal zealot]

The second way

[outer vector]

like with gurkin i thought it might help 🤷

and aubergine

[elfin bay]

Frühlingszweibeln are tasiter than Lauch

Lauch = Porree (north german name version)

[trim ferry]

I say green onion but I've also heard spring onion

[outer vector]

lauch is cogn. with leek probably

[cobalt forum]

Lauch/Porree (leek) and Frühlingszwiebel are two different things (AFAIK)

[outer vector]

i probably should've guessed it did mean leek

[wary atlas]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AxPwRrSXEAsnZTg99PoRIPoRlgyGlyPI/view?usp=sharing

[elfin bay]

I love Frühlingszwiebeln they are crunchy and oniony
but Lauch is stringy and bland and I don't like it

definitely two different things

[trim ferry]

Lauch makes good soup

[wind scroll]

I don't mean to interrupt but do you have to be invited to lessons or can you just join?

[wary atlas]

@wind scroll Feel free to join any time.

[cobalt forum]

http://www.atlas-alltagssprache.de/mohre/20/

[elfin bay]

where they say "Mohrrübe" they most proabbly also call the turnip Rübe "Speiserübe" to differentiate

the last thing base posted
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AxPwRrSXEAsnZTg99PoRIPoRlgyGlyPI/view

[wary atlas]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q2E0elvaWIXELORN-UEr4NjeF1V2Ec0h/view?usp=sharing

[elfin bay]

only one word in English
fruit

Frucht - the fruit of a plant, also figuratively, the fruit of hard work
Obst - food category of fruits, all types of fruit

[wary atlas]

Deutsch Perfekt.

[elfin bay]

now I really want an apple

[wind scroll]

I liked the little piece of the lesson I caught

I'll def come back next week

[rancid hawk]

same

[trim ferry]

This is less intense than the grammar lessons but still super cool

[wary atlas]

>sub grammar

[outer vector]

danke base, i gtg

[trim ferry]

Thanks for this!

[wind scroll]

Danke

[trim ferry]

On the topic of foods from yesterday, this dude makes great videos with funny memory tricks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsg6aZAhYwg

[desert ginkgo]

On the topic of foods from yesterday, this dude makes great videos with funny memory tricks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsg6aZAhYwg
@trim ferry Omg I love this hahahahaha

[indigo patio]

i remembered the der die and das without even trying

[tawdry gorge]

flex

[tacit mauve]

<@&526087863339843585>

:loudspeaker: Bulli issued a ping for Grammar

Message

Hello, lovely people. There will be a series of beginner grammar lessons presumably every Saturday, depending on demand and availability of session holders, beginning on the 15th of August at 8:00 UTC. If any questions arise, feel free to ask in #community-discussion

These lessons will be a repeat of the Beginner Lessons held by @wary atlas but simply held at a different time. The lesson content can be found here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/14MPdMqPTH9XVocvy__Hw7cMz5jSXZux-

[maiden abyss]

Great!!!

[tacit mauve]

<@&736285634309783554>

:loudspeaker: Sascha Baer issued a ping for Dialects

Message

Schweizerdeutschlektion in 30 Minuten, im Lessons Voice Channel

[boreal zealot]

Jaj

[storm turret]

hype

in b4 i can understand fuck all of it the lektion tho. to hell with it tho i'm down

[storm turret]

okie ich kanns verstehen :) fuck yeah

[cobalt forum]

(ist ja noch alles Standarddeutsch)

[storm turret]

ich weiß aber es ist standardeutsch davon ich angst hatte

[lyric goblet]

1. Kein ich-Laut

echt sich liicht

[trim lava]

:DDDD

👀 whew

[boreal zealot]

ich nehme an man spricht -ch am ende eines Wortes eher so wie "k" aus, ne?

[rapid mural]

ich glaube es klingt wie ein hart r

ert sir lirt

stimmt ?

[lyric goblet]

Chind, Chueche

Kind, Kuacha

2. Fallende Diphthonge

ia üa ua

ihr

[boreal zealot]

w = m ?

ah

[cobalt forum]

(aber häufig in deutschen Dialekten, z.B. auch im Rheinland)

[lyric goblet]

gehen wir → gehnwər → gehmer → gehen mir

[boreal zealot]

Ist -nn da ein stiller Brief?

[lyric goblet]

💌

[boreal zealot]

Buchstabe*

ja sorry

so daher können wir doch darauf kommen, dass die Ns am Ende der Wörter im schwiizerdütchen nicht ausgesprochen werden?

[lyric goblet]

tüan < tüand

[boreal zealot]

einverstanden, danke

[lyric goblet]

d’Burg

[storm turret]

und was heißt wieder hegi auf standarddeutsch?

dankschön

[trim lava]

Ist das ch in Nacht wieder wie ich in standarddeutsch oder wie vorher besprochen? :3

[boreal zealot]

Aus diesem Beispiel "Lastwaga: Lastwagen", ist es möglich zu generalisieren, dass man "-en" durch "a" im schweizerdeutschen ersetzen kann? Oder es hängt von dem Wort ab und davon, wo "en" im Wort steht?

[cobalt forum]

sommer (sollen wir)...

[lyric goblet]

söllen / söllemer

[trim lava]

👍

[lyric goblet]

kaufa

miar kaufen

[upbeat fossil]

Is this an advanced lesson?

[storm turret]

yup

[trim lava]

🎉 Danke!

[cobalt forum]

👍

[storm turret]

we're learning about swiss german

[upbeat fossil]

:O!

[boreal zealot]

Vielen Dank für die Lektion

[glass rune]

uf ich hab sie verpasst

bin zu spät aufgewacht

[safe oyster]

ich auch, was habe ich versäumt??

[elder berry]

Schweizerdeutsch

[fathom spade]

Good Lord, is that actual Swiss German?

I mean, it's not bad, but it's just so different

[tacit mauve]

<@&639079683400400906>

:loudspeaker: SweetLittleMUV issued a ping for Activities

Message

Quick reminder that the listening will start in approx. 3 hours from now! Check out >session info 21 in #botchannel if you are interested!

[boreal zealot]

im still confused to where i find the german language learning at

. _ .

[tardy prawn]

im still confused to where i find the german language learning at
Nobody here is a teacher, nor does anyone here offer full on courses. This is a place to help guide you as you either learn it at school or on your own. If you have questions, people are happy to answer. But most people either don’t have time or aren’t qualified to teach someone from scratch. @boreal zealot

[green pebble]

@boreal zealot today activity was listening
For that you need to subscribe im the #botchannel
Then when it starts two more channels will show, voice channel and regular one under new category 'off topic', both vanish after the fact

Grammar lessons are just starting for A1 in around 12 h (again, check with bot for exact time)
Like, it will be lesson 1

However, for those announcements you also need to subscribe on bot channel

I guess system with new voice channel will be the same, but I can't tell, this one will be my first one

If you can't manage it, I definitely recommend nico's weg from deutsche welle (also available as an app, but it's names learn german or something, doesn't have nico in title)
And then ask questions / google for more clarifications

[boreal zealot]

gefunden eins

[fathom spade]

I think there should be another group for activities that are done earlier

Because the activities are always done at like 2 in the morning for me.

Just a suggestion

[wary atlas]

@fathom spade Unfortunately we're pretty limited in terms of number of hosts, so we only have a limited capacity to offer sessions at different times. What's your time zone?

[fathom spade]

Brisbane, GMT +10

[wary atlas]

And what's your level?

[tacit mauve]

<@&526087863339843585>

:loudspeaker: JX issued a ping for Grammar

Message

Hi everyone! Beginner German: Lesson 8 will begin in around 25 minutes. Today we'll be talking more about prepositions. Specifically, two-way prepositions and the correct way to learn prepositions, by using context! I'll talk about some of the basic examples of context and how prepositions work there.

Sorry I didn't post any homework recently, but I've been quite busy and I'll most likely just post a big homework sheet this week to cover everything. It's easier that way anyway, since the previous 2 sessions both covered prepositions.

[maiden abyss]

I think there should be another group for activities that are done earlier
@fathom spade I wish so too, I have to stay super late

Unfortunately, there's a lack of teachers so we gotta adjust..

[wary atlas]

@maiden abyss There's a new beginner session starting today if you want to go to that.

[maiden abyss]

I thought to check it out ja

[rapid mural]

fur welcher Niveau ist der heutigen Lektion geeignet ?

[wary atlas]

Beginners.

Prerequisite knowledge: accusative and dative case.

[scarlet breach]

nice no more trolls

the squelch feature is def useful

[wary atlas]

I'll just be 1 second, sorry.

[scarlet breach]

Ich höre dich

[mystic dune]

We can't unmute ourselves

[scarlet breach]

ja

[finite raven]

yes

[scarlet breach]

someone mute

[finite raven]

someone's echoing

[wary atlas]

@tepid rapids You have an echo.

[scarlet breach]

i feel like the squelch wasnt a bad idea

[mystic dune]

Yes

[trim ferry]

yup

[finite raven]

yes

[dark garnet]

Yes

[upbeat fossil]

yup

[tiny dragon]

ja

[maiden abyss]

Oh you started

I was waiting to be tagged xd

[scarlet breach]

yeah like

Er macht die Tür auf

Er macht die Tür zu

Those are weird

ah

[dark garnet]

What is two way prepositions

[scarlet breach]

so zumacht?

that's the verb?

[finite raven]

zumachen

[wary atlas]

zumachen

[maiden abyss]

en

[dark garnet]

Oh

[maiden abyss]

Have you uploaded the pdf of the slides?

found it, dnk

[scarlet breach]

yeah its up

[outer vector]

v'o'r

[maiden abyss]

zwischen in between?

zwis .. like swiss

and they are in between a lot of countries 😂

[dark garnet]

[boreal pier]

What's the difference between an and auf?

[maiden abyss]

sorry, i was just writing my thoughts, i have weird ways of memorising words xd

[boreal zealot]

An is at kinda, where it describes the position of something in front of something very closely

[dark garnet]

So stopping is dative, moving is accusative?

[boreal zealot]

You mean auf*

Yeah vertical surface for an, horizontal for auf

[scarlet breach]

an die Wände

[boreal zealot]

Also an dem Computer

[scarlet breach]

auf der Straße

[maiden abyss]

is an used to be on the verge in a philosophical way like uhm
im on the verge (due to anxiety) or im on the verge to make that decision

[scarlet breach]

what about like "I'm on it (figuratively)"?

[boreal pier]

I got it

Thank you

[scarlet breach]

ok

[maiden abyss]

🙆‍♂️

[dark garnet]

So location uses dative, movement uses accusative.

[boreal zealot]

Exactly

[soft badge]

Hii I just arrived.. What's the general content today?

[scarlet breach]

prepositions

[cobalt forum]

||Ich lege das Buch auf den Tisch vs. Das Buch liegt auf dem Tisch||

[soft badge]

Cool thanks

[boreal pier]

Wait

[scarlet breach]

i see

so somethings "state"

[boreal pier]

Can you type the examples please?

[outer vector]

I lay it on... vs. it lies on...

[scarlet breach]

like if it's a static state, it's dative

[boreal pier]

I'm sorry, where?

[cobalt forum]

||Ich lege das Buch auf den Tisch vs. Das Buch liegt auf dem Tisch||

[dark garnet]

Static dative, dynamic accusative

[mystic dune]

Yeah I'm still a little confused

[boreal pier]

Oooh okay that makes sense

[soft badge]

All dat/acc preps:

an (on [vertical surface])
auf (on top of [horizontal surface])
hinter (bedhind)
in (in)
neben (next to )
entlang (along)
über (above)
unter (under)
vor (in front of)
zwischen (between)

[mystic dune]

So one of them is about a change in location?

[dark garnet]

Depends on the context

[soft badge]

An enigmaaa

[mystic dune]

Oh

[maiden abyss]

essentially like. I've put the book onto the table. The book is on the table.

[mystic dune]

Thanks

[boreal pier]

What is the change of location based on?

[dark garnet]

Based on the object

[outer vector]

Ich stelle den Base in den Kühlschrank vs. Der Base ist in dem Kühlschrank

[boreal pier]

Yup

[mystic dune]

Ok

[scarlet breach]

so like if you're giving directions, "the library is over there" - that's dative?

@soft badge ur unmuted

[cobalt forum]

"Die Bücherei ist da drüben"

[soft badge]

Excuse me

[dark garnet]

So this example vs Ich bin im Kino.?

[cobalt forum]

Die Wolke schwebt über der Stadt (and will still be there in an hour) vs. Die Wolke schwebt über die Stadt (and will be gone soon)

[soft badge]

Das Buch ist hinter dem Andere vs. Ich werfe das Buch hinter den Andere ?

[cobalt forum]

*Anderen

[soft badge]

Thank you

[outer vector]

||dem/den||

[dark garnet]

|| dem || || den ||

[maiden abyss]

||Das Buch ist auf dem Tisch.

Ich lege das Buch auf den Tisch.||

[scarlet breach]

||dem(dative)||and ||den(accusative)||

[mystic dune]

||accusative and dative||

[trim ferry]

is it bad grammar to use in das instead of ins, etc.

[mystic dune]

Yes

[soft badge]

It's movin

[mystic dune]

Yes

[maiden abyss]

so generally speaking if we have a [object] ist ...(on, next) [something]

its accusative?

dative*

[soft badge]

It's dative

um is dative always right?

Okay um is accusative

[scarlet breach]

its on the chart

[wary atlas]

I walk into the house.
I walk inside the house. (as in, I walk around inside to different rooms)
I am in the house.

[soft badge]

Not sure where that is

[boreal zealot]

There's entgegen missing

[boreal pier]

Is um only used for time?

[boreal zealot]

In dativ

[outer vector]

||Ich gehe ins Haus.||
||Ich gehe im Haus.||
||Ich bin im Haus.||

[upbeat fossil]

Ich spaziere im haus

[soft badge]

Ich gehe ins Haus

[trim ferry]

||Ich gehe ins Haus||
||Ich gehe im Haus||
||Ich bin zuhause||

[dark garnet]

||Ich gehe ins Haus|| || ich bin im Haus||

[willow bolt]

Ich bin Zu Hause?

What about this?

[maiden abyss]

||Ich gehe ins Haus.
Ich gehe in dem Haus.
Ich bin ins Haus.||

[willow bolt]

Ich gehe Nach hause

[soft badge]

How to line break?

[boreal zealot]

Wo = dativ
Wohin = Akkusativ

[scarlet breach]

||Ich laufe zu dem Haus||
||Ich laufe in den Haus||
||Ich bin in den Haus||

[mystic dune]

@soft badge shift enter

[soft badge]

Thank you

[dark garnet]

What’s the difference between first two examples 😳

[outer vector]

if "zu Hause" is used it would mean "I'm home" as opposed to "I'm in the (specific) house", i believe

[upbeat fossil]

Ich gehe im haus

[scarlet breach]

zuhaus means Home right?

like nach Haus

[trim ferry]

ah cool

[maiden abyss]

What's the solution?

[scarlet breach]

oh

[willow bolt]

if "zu Hause" is used it would mean "I'm home" as opposed to "I'm in the (specific) house", i believe
@outer vector
Oh yeah!

[wary atlas]

Ich bin im Haus. I am in the house.

[upbeat fossil]

ich bin ein haus

[scarlet breach]

im = in dem

[dark garnet]

Yes

[willow bolt]

It's okay

For me!

[maiden abyss]

yep

[wary atlas]

Ich gehe ins Haus. I walk into the house.

[mystic dune]

Where's your dative case?

[scarlet breach]

ins is also a contraction?

[soft badge]

laufen is more of a run right

[maiden abyss]

ins - in das

[scarlet breach]

rennen is run

[boreal zealot]

Ins = in das

[dark garnet]

lol

[upbeat fossil]

thanks @boreal zealot !

[soft badge]

Great thanks

[maiden abyss]

is laufen like im moving

[wary atlas]

in dem

[mystic dune]

Oh

Ok

[soft badge]

bewegen is to move

[scarlet breach]

moving is tragen i think

to "carry" a thing

[outer vector]

bewegen is to move, transitively

[scarlet breach]

what about durch?

[wary atlas]

Ich gehe im Haus. I walk inside the house. (as in, to different rooms, not in and out of the house)

[delicate vortex]

durch is accusative

[wary heart]

im haus

[maiden abyss]

yaa got it

[soft badge]

bewegen is to move, transitively
@outer vector so to move to?

[outer vector]

to move (something)

[scarlet breach]

couldn't you use durch here?

[upbeat fossil]

i thought gehe just meant "to go "

[dark garnet]

Omg this is kinda tricky

[upbeat fossil]

this is cool!

ah ok i c

[soft badge]

Ist "Ich bewege" falsch?

[outer vector]

Ich bewege etw. oder Ich bewege mich

[upbeat fossil]

i think that would be too literal

[delicate vortex]

ich bewege mich (but lets big ignore that)

[soft badge]

I brought it up

[maiden abyss]

sorry what did i skip

is bewage unrelated?

[soft badge]

well synonyms yk?

[scarlet breach]

wth

this guy is trolling?

[dark garnet]

Chaotic moments

[maiden abyss]

got a free listening lesson and u complain xd

[wary atlas]

@tiny dragon I muted you for now because you had your mic on.

[soft badge]

Ah he messed up

[maiden abyss]

oh okay, thanks. i was super confused because i got up for a second to get water and then BOOM

[mystic dune]

I have a question

[soft badge]

So don't bring up synonyms of words mentioned to clarify the difference?

[mystic dune]

How would using über with the accusative case work?

[soft badge]

Sorry i'm new so not sure what not to ask

[scarlet breach]

yeah im also confused on that

[rapid mural]

wirst du nach den unterricht die slides veroffentlichen ?

[scarlet breach]

the venn diagram wasnt obvious to me either

[outer vector]

Ich werfe den Ball über das Haus

[dark garnet]

über is sth above u not on u I guess

[cobalt forum]

Der Ballon schwebt über dem Haus (and is not moving)

[mystic dune]

Oh

Yee

Yes

[scarlet breach]

whoa über is slang?

oh just the contraction

like gonna

[maiden abyss]

so auf + akk das

aufs

[dark garnet]

[scarlet breach]

and yall

[maiden abyss]

in everyday speech = auf?

so the correct version is aufs, in slang auf das?

[wary atlas]

Formal: auf das Haus
Colloquial: aufs Haus

[dark garnet]

The blank ones means u have to write or speak it in a complete way?

[maiden abyss]

sorry got confused because they got red suffixes

[outer vector]

durchs seems difficult to say

[maiden abyss]

ja

🙏

thanks

[dark garnet]

[wanton sandal]

Yes

[upbeat fossil]

Ja!

[wanton sandal]

Ja

[scarlet breach]

where (to)

[maiden abyss]

what does what mean

[upbeat fossil]

where to?

[trim ferry]

Where to

[dark garnet]

To where

[maiden abyss]

where to?

wasn't it on a slide a minute ago

[outer vector]

where to

[scarlet breach]

opposite of woher

[maiden abyss]

so HIN - going away
HER - coming to you?

[scarlet breach]

and there is worüber and wofür

[dark garnet]

[scarlet breach]

i shame myself

nach Haus

[maiden abyss]

what does it depend on

[ebon parrot]

in + akk?

[maiden abyss]

no i meant like

[cobalt forum]

(Ich fliege in den Oman/Iran)

[maiden abyss]

what does it depend on if the country has it

[ebon parrot]

oh k

[maiden abyss]

is it just a thing you learn

i mean why did peeps decide that USA is suddenly a country with an article

is there a system behind it or just

[hollow narwhal]

Okay I fliege in die Oma

[maiden abyss]

something we learn as it is

[scarlet breach]

are countries the only nouns that can optionally not have articles?

never heard of this

[maiden abyss]

does usa have an article if we say Amerika?

ah ill just remember it like that 💯

[mystic dune]

Wait, what about

Ich wohne in Deutschland

[cobalt forum]

( die USA because it's die Staaten (pl.))

[hollow narwhal]

Hin is short I or long I?

[dark garnet]

Amerika means the continent

😳

[maiden abyss]

no one says america and means canada bro

[dark garnet]

Canada is Kanada

[trim ferry]

🇨🇦

[wary atlas]

@dark garnet You're unmuted.

[mystic dune]

I can

[dark garnet]

👌

[maiden abyss]

the slide didnt change for me

is the problem on my side or

[outer vector]

yes :/

[scarlet breach]

i see it

[cobalt forum]

"other places" slide currently

[scarlet breach]

ur fine

[boreal pier]

It's weird

[maiden abyss]

die Grenze - the border/ state border?

[boreal pier]

Because intuitively "in" is like inside

[cobalt forum]

• an den Strand @wary atlas

[boreal pier]

in 3D

But in german it sounds like it could be inside in 2D

I don't now if that makes sense

[dark garnet]

What is hochzeit

[upbeat fossil]

wedding

[scarlet breach]

high-time

[cobalt forum]

*auf die Post @wary atlas

[trim ferry]

do we really use the english word for Party?

[cobalt forum]

(Post is regional, also: zur Post)

[scarlet breach]

well english is Germanic

so i think we use the german word

[outer vector]

Nope

(Ultimately) derives from Latin

[cobalt forum]

no, it's a relatively new loanword from English

[maiden abyss]

party = partys

so loan it is

[cobalt forum]

alternative: die (Geburtstags-)Feier

[maiden abyss]

is it archaic

[scarlet breach]

yeah that would be bad

[outer vector]

Base is teaching us how not to cause accidents

[boreal pier]

How about when you say "zur arbeit"

[dark garnet]

So ich gehe zu der Schule means I skip school 🤔

😂ok

[cobalt forum]

(Schule: again regional)

[mystic dune]

Why is University a special case?

[boreal pier]

How about when you say "Ich gehe zur arbeit"? Is there a more specific preposition for that?

[upbeat fossil]

zur = zu der?

zum = zu dem?

hooray!

[maiden abyss]

do you mean like Arbeit

[scarlet breach]

i go to work

[frank quartz]

https://resources.german.lsa.umich.edu/grammatik/prepositions/#wohin

[maiden abyss]

deepl says zur

[scarlet breach]

honestly the DuoLingo "tips" thing on prepositions is pretty nice

[upbeat fossil]

Is there ever a situation where cases and genders clash and you have to prioritize one or the other?

nope hahaha

ok exccllent

ty

[dark garnet]

Countries like Philippines?

[scarlet breach]

Australia

[upbeat fossil]

also if you are speaking "in english" you use "auf English"

?

[dark garnet]

👌

[maiden abyss]

does peninsula work as an island

[cobalt forum]

"auf den Philippinen" (aber: "in Indonesien")

[scarlet breach]

🤔

[boreal pier]

How about continents?

[scarlet breach]

Australia is a continent

[mystic dune]

Britain?

[maiden abyss]

what about like a group of lil islands

[mystic dune]

Britain is an island?

[dark garnet]

Oh Philippines is plural like USA

[frank quartz]

Australia is a continent
@scarlet breach its not

[mystic dune]

It is so

[scarlet breach]

lmao wut

[frank quartz]

Ozeanien ist ein Kontinent

[maiden abyss]

australia no

australia and oceania ✅

[cobalt forum]

number and definition of continent varies

[dark garnet]

An can be used places like bus stop

[scarlet breach]

do you have a good resource with a ton of these prepositions?

[maiden abyss]

would you say auf Kosovo or in Kosovo because in my language

we use auf for Kosovo

[scarlet breach]

i've been trying to find a single resource, but it's usually very scattered

[cobalt forum]

der Kosovo -> in dem Kosovo

[maiden abyss]

ah it has an article? okay

[boreal pier]

Bei is easy to understand, an is just weird

[maiden abyss]

so im?

[upbeat fossil]

beim = bei dem?

on im a rollllllll

im on* damn...

[scarlet breach]

ok

[boreal pier]

So in that example "an" and "bei" have the exact same meaning?

[upbeat fossil]

So that means " i saw you by the supermarket"

[boreal pier]

Okay$

[maiden abyss]

im super confused, how does an/ bei connect to

akkusativ and dativ, changing l. and location?

[outer vector]

only bei can be used with people right

[frank quartz]

dative prepositions

[maiden abyss]

uhh okay i think i kinda grasp it

i thought we'll do like a list of prepositions in their D/ A form

and then we suddenly stared doing all this

yeah

yeah, thanks thats why i got confused. i was just getting confused how does it connect

[cobalt forum]

(I would use "der Aldi" -> "beim Aldi" [with article], but as always regional)

[ebon parrot]

does it only work with person names?

[boreal pier]

Ich arbeite bei Aldi

[maiden abyss]

Ich arbeite bei Microsoft, does it also work?

[mystic dune]

Von or vom?

[upbeat fossil]

von = von dem

vom**

[maiden abyss]

aus v von will be super important in a 100 years so thanks !

[outer vector]

Ich bin von der Erde?

[boreal zealot]

Auslander

[boreal pier]

How would you say "I come from another world"?

[trim ferry]

Do all the plantets use articles

[maiden abyss]

ik about future. ich komme aus der Zukunft.
dark 💯

[boreal pier]

Like "of"

[cobalt forum]

Ich komme von einer anderen Welt/von einem anderen Planeten/aus einer Parralelwelt

[ebon parrot]

would "ich bin vom Erde" also work?

Ich bin von der Erde?

[scarlet breach]

i see a lot of German lastnames with von

[ebon parrot]

kk

[scarlet breach]

like Auto von Bismark

[outer vector]

Otto

[scarlet breach]

he's a car

[outer vector]

Bismarck

[tardy prawn]

My last name used to have von in it but it was changed generations ago

[mystic dune]

What case comes after von?

[frank quartz]

Do you have any examples on Wohin and woher

[wary atlas]

zu Hause = at home
nach Hause = to home

[cobalt forum]

(OT: "von" in names can be a noble title or a location the family is from)

[scarlet breach]

Ich gehe nach Hause

that was in my book

[maiden abyss]

why's it suddenly Hause

not Haus

ah cool

[upbeat fossil]

by set phrases you mean like, a common way to express something?

ahh ok

Ja, genauso.

[mystic dune]

Ok

[ebon parrot]

would „ich schlafe um 23 Uhr" be correct?

👍

[wary atlas]

Einschlafen.

[scarlet breach]

passen means fit

[trim ferry]

keine Ahnung

[ebon parrot]

oh

[maiden abyss]

i was sending questions to a wrong server

people were confused . .

[boreal pier]

Verpasster was pretty tough to guess

[maiden abyss]

i mean 8:21 = AM
✂✂Today at 3:56 AM
what
JakeyToday at 3:56 AM
I get up?
✂✂Today at 3:56 AM
ok

[boreal pier]

Since

[upbeat fossil]

I have been learning German for 3 years.

[ebon parrot]

I've been learning German for 3 years?

[maiden abyss]

i've been learning ge for 3 hours?

[trim ferry]

I've been learning German for 3 years

[maiden abyss]

years*

so while english has a whole tense for this, german has a single preposition?

german efficiency

[boreal pier]

How about "I came to germany 3 years ago"

[trim ferry]

so there is no "I've been..." phrase in Germsn?

[boreal zealot]

Sorry that's off topic but the way you pronounce "ich" is the only way ?

[frank quartz]

german efficiency
@maiden abyss Entschuldigung . sorry xD

[wary atlas]

3 years ago = vor 3 Jahren

[maiden abyss]

is this in the territory of the past tense

[boreal zealot]

Oh okay thanks, cuz i say "isssh"

[frank quartz]

3 years ago = vor 3 Jahren
@wary atlas Hast du ein Beispiel

[boreal zealot]

Thank you

[cobalt forum]

https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/ich has recordings of native speakers

[upbeat fossil]

its like when you try to make a car window foggy

[wary atlas]

Ich bin vor 3 Jahren nach Deutschland gekommen.

[maiden abyss]

I am in Germany for 3 years?

Or it's been 3 years since i've come/ came to germany?

ah

[cobalt forum]

||I came to Germany 3 years ago||

[maiden abyss]

i noticed there's always ge- for past verbs

is that a pattern 👀

[boreal pier]

So it's either "Ich bin in Deutschland seit 3 Jahren" or "Ich bin vor 3 Jahren nach Deutschland gekommen"

[cobalt forum]

*Wochen @wary atlas (on the slide)

[boreal pier]

Yup

[maiden abyss]

sure

wait

So we use

Für only if it continues into the future, or

[ebon parrot]

could I use "für" in a context like: I'll be out from home "für" 3 hours?

[cobalt forum]

can also use "für" for past

[upbeat fossil]

So kinda like "i have been learning this for...." and "my training on this subject was xxx long"

[trim ferry]

yes

[boreal zealot]

what's the difference with .. "in deutshland seit 3 wochen.." ?

[maiden abyss]

imaging doing a raid at 4am

[boreal pier]

Okay so "seit" is more about when it started and "für" is about how long it "is lasting"

[cobalt forum]

"Ich bin für 3 Stunden nicht zuhause"@ebon parrot

[mystic dune]

Why would we get a DM?

[ebon parrot]

thanks!

[trim ferry]

I'm too new to discord in general, what is happening?

[mystic dune]

Oh

[upbeat fossil]

are fur and seit interchangeable?

[mystic dune]

Ok

[boreal zealot]

So is it correct to say ich bin in deutshland seit 3 wochen ? ^^

no

Oh okay, so für is like a stand by

i got it thanks

[frank quartz]

is it wrong if you spell it zu Hause?

zuhause

regional?

👍

[maiden abyss]

To describe the whole length of time, if it continues
into the future,
only if it continues into the future?

oh okay thanks

ill try to get it.

can you maybe write the other versions of meiner Meinung nach

oh 🆗

[wary atlas]

seiner Meinung nach

[ebon parrot]

will they be placed exactly after the noun or at the end of the sentence?

[maiden abyss]

thats it?

[trim lava]

Base can I unmute Furor?

[cobalt forum]

shortened to m.M.n.

[trim lava]

👌

[maiden abyss]

so

mMn = imo?

what about imho?

[frank quartz]

Can you go over wohin and woher quick again 😦

When to use em

Woher kommst du?

Wohin gehst du?

Danke ich verstehe

[boreal pier]

"wohin = where to" and "woher = where from"?

Hinhören

Me neither

Lol.

[maiden abyss]

can you give examples of hin/er verbs

[boreal zealot]

Wo bist du or wohin bist du ?

[wary atlas]

Hinausgehen.

[frank quartz]

To go out

[upbeat fossil]

Go out

[ebon parrot]

to go out to somewhere?

[upbeat fossil]

Zum beispiel, Willst du mit mir Ausgehen?

[wary atlas]

heraus

hinaus

[boreal zealot]

Yes

[maiden abyss]

sure

in german, is this concept actually called Hin - Her ?

[frank quartz]

heraus - you see someone go out (standing outside)
hinaus - you see someone go out (standing inside)?

is it right?

[boreal zealot]

Sorry what's the difference between her and hier ?

[wary atlas]

hier = here

hierher

Du kommst her.

Du kommst hierher.

[trim lava]

Komm sofort hierher junger Mann 😠

[wary atlas]

You cannot say: du kommst hier.

[boreal zealot]

Oh 👍

[maiden abyss]

Come here straight away young man?

Du ommst her.
Du kommst hierher.
Du kommst hier.

All the same?

[boreal zealot]

And if ich warten

it's hier

[outer vector]

how abot da/daher

[frank quartz]

I guess u cant say "Kannst du hier kommen"

[boreal pier]

How about if you add something like "zu"

[frank quartz]

Or do you have to say "Kannst du herkommen"

[outer vector]

geh dahin?

[wary atlas]

Kannst du hierher kommen?

[trim lava]

Kannst du bitte mal herkommen? :3

also works

[cobalt forum]

Komma rübba (don't use)

[ebon parrot]

hierher -> hither. But German uses it more often, right?

[upbeat fossil]

can you explain hier again please?

[wary atlas]

hier = here

[outer vector]

hither is pretty dated, yeah, as is whence

[upbeat fossil]

sorry the other one

[wary atlas]

her

[upbeat fossil]

yes

[ebon parrot]

hither is pretty dated, yeah, as is whence
yea

[wary atlas]

hin = away from you
her = towards you

[upbeat fossil]

so "where did you go" is wohin!

ahh ok ty

[boreal pier]

Ohh yes

[frank quartz]

Nominalisierung

[upbeat fossil]

i have only attended two lessons so far, but i would like seperable verbs perhaps but anything begginer friendly is good for me haha

[dark garnet]

Future tense?

[trim ferry]

Imperative form

[round oar]

have you covered verben mit dativ und akkusativ?

Thank you!

[wary atlas]

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[boreal zealot]

Thank you very much !

[frank quartz]

Nominalisierung
@frank quartz Das Backen eines Kuchens kann viel Freude bereiten. Why the verb get capital

[boreal pier]

What does that sentence even mean?

[frank quartz]

" Das Publikum mag ihr Tanzen." what about this. Here tanzen which is a verb get a capital letter

[wary atlas]

Das Lesen hilft einem beim Deutschlernen.

Reading helps you with German-learning.

Ich mag Tanzen.

[boreal pier]

I like to dance.

[boreal zealot]

Can we say ich mag dich ?

[wary atlas]

Ich tanze gern.

[cobalt forum]

(Ich mag es zu tanzen)

[boreal pier]

Ohh

Okay

[upbeat fossil]

can you differentiate the appriopriate ways to use mag & gerne ?

[frank quartz]

Base was liest du gern?