lessons

[lilac pecan]

https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wissen/technik-mit-elastischen-fluegeln-in-die-luft-1.4690732 @cobalt forum dies gut?

[boreal zealot]

musste weg, kann mich aber gerne für sowas in Zukunft einsetzen, gerade wenn es um reine Grammatik geht

das macht am meisten Spaß

[cobalt forum]

Wer in ein Flugzeug steigt, muss sich heutzutage den Vorwurf gefallen lassen, ein Klimasünder zu sein. Viel zu groß und schwer ist ein Flieger, um leicht durch die Lüfte zu schweben. Stattdessen beschleunigen riesige Triebwerke den Koloss und pusten dabei Unmengen von Schadstoffen in die Luft, damit die massiven Flügel die vielen Tonnen Gewicht zum Fliegen bringen können.

Nun hat ein europäisches Forscherteam, an dem auch das Deutsche Zentrum für Luft- und Raumfahrt (DLR) beteiligt ist, neuartige Flügel entwickelt, die das Fliegen in Zukunft umweltfreundlicher machen könnten. Sie sind leichter, deutlich länger und elastisch. Am Sonderflughafen Oberpfaffenhofen nahe München wurden sie erstmals getestet.

Wetter Wie sehr Fliegen dem Klima schadet

Heutige Flugzeuge haben steife Flügel. Sie sind bei starken Luftböen, oder wenn das Flugzeug eine Kurve fliegt, hohem Druck ausgesetzt. Dabei entstehen starke Spannungen, die sich auf den Rumpf des Flugzeugs übertragen. Lange Flügel bieten zwar weniger Luftwiderstand und machen das Fliegen dadurch effizienter, dafür steigen aber auch die Spannungen. Um zu verhindern, dass die Flügel zerreißen, müssen Ingenieure sie sehr stabil bauen, dementsprechend sind sie schwer. Aus diesem Grund können sie Flügel bisher nicht beliebig lang bauen.

Die Forscher des DLR haben nun Flügel entwickelt, die sich unter hohem Druck verdrehen können und somit Spannung abbauen. "Bei Böen und oder starken Manövern gibt es mehr Auftrieb und der Druck auf den Flügel steigt. Der aeroelastische Flügel dreht sich im Außenbereich, sodass dort kein zusätzlicher Auftrieb entsteht", erklärt Wolf-Reiner Krüger das Prinzip. Er war verantwortlich für den Entwurf des aeroelastischen Flügels. Möglich wird die Drehung durch speziell angeordnete Kohlefasern, die die Flügel elastisch machen. Allerdings gibt der Flügel nur in die Richtung nach, in die die Kohlefasern angeordnet sind, sonst bleibt er steif und ermöglicht einen sicheren Flug.

Getestet haben die Ingenieure die neuen Flügel vorerst nur an einem Modell. Es ist dreieinhalb Meter lang und hat eine Flügelspannweite von sieben Metern. Doppelt so breit wie lang: Solch ein extremes Verhältnis wird es bei konventionellen Fracht- und Passagierflugzeugen nicht geben. Ein Airbus A380, das größte Passagierflugzeug der Welt, müsste in diesem Fall eine Flügelweite von über 140 Metern haben. Das lässt allein die Infrastruktur an Flughäfen nicht zu, die Boxen dort begrenzen die Ausmaße auf 80 Meter.

Dennoch gehe die Tendenz in Richtung länger gestreckte Flügel, sagt Krüger. Die größere Spannweite führe dazu, dass Flugzeuge weniger Kerosin verbrauchen. Flugzeugbauer versuchen sich diesen Umstand bereits zunutze zu machen, die neu entwickelte Boeing 777X etwa hat Flügelenden, die sich am Flughafen hochklappen lassen. "Das ist einer der wenigen Fälle, wo Wirtschaftlichkeit und Umweltschutz zusammenfallen", sagt der Ingenieur Krüger.

[burnt scaffold]

you could also use #beginner-german btw 👀

[boreal zealot]

wer?

[lilac pecan]

@boreal zealot

[marble narwhal]

need a moment

[wide ocean]

this was really helpful and really self esteem booster 😄 i must go thanks all for the help , take care guys ❤️

[lilac pecan]

UM UN

[severe bear]

In welche zeit machen das ??

Jeden tag ??

[burnt scaffold]

you mean the reading sessions ?

[severe bear]

Ja

[burnt scaffold]

groups

[primal pond]

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[burnt scaffold]

you can type >sub name of the group to get pings about when there's a session

[cobalt forum]

Wer den Artikel über Flugzeuge lesen will (B-C), wir sind in #beginner-german

[wide ocean]

lessons

or where do we do that ? i dont know how to use discord 😦

[burnt scaffold]

as far as I can see you're already subscribed to most of the groups

[wide ocean]

oh 😄

hahah ok

[burnt scaffold]

@boreal zealot @tawdry gorge it's battle or fight here btw

[tawdry gorge]

https://www.deepl.com/translator

[bleak idol]

what did i join 👁️

i can try

[burnt scaffold]

https://www.dw.com/de/drogensucht-kein-geld-für-prävention/l-51452581

[boreal zealot]

group joinall

[primal pond]

:white_check_mark: Added you to all available groups.

[tawdry gorge]

Ein wichtiges Mittel wäre die Prävention, um zu verhindern, dass Menschen überhaupt Drogen nehmen. Aber für solche Programme fehlt den meisten Kommunen das Geld.

[bleak idol]

I would like to keep this going if you dont mind

[tawdry gorge]

https://www.dw.com/de/aktion-gegen-plastikmüll-im-meer/l-51119461

[burnt scaffold]

fangen = to catch
here to collect

it's simply done to put the emphasis on the amount of rivers @tawdry gorge @bleak idol

fordern = to demand

it emerges from the usage of tyres

sorry what's the question ?

yup sounds good

it's quite literally sobering

[bleak idol]

Anyone know what daher mean?

[burnt scaffold]

because of that/thus

[bleak idol]

Perfect danke

[woven barn]

@lilac pecan @tawdry gorge and others who was helping with lessons today.
Thank you so much for your patience and explanations! :>
Those lessons are really helpful and they are especially valuable to people who are extremely shy and just cannot find a common German practice in everyday voicetalk.
💙

[tawdry gorge]

❤️

thank you so much it is so incredibly sweet to hear that from somebody else. Everybody today did fantastically and the excitement and motivation to learn absolutely blew me away. I'm so so proud of everyone who participated

[livid cradle]

sub joinall

[primal pond]

❌ Bad argument: Group "joinall" not found.

[livid cradle]

group joinall

[primal pond]

:white_check_mark: Added you to all available groups.

[upper lake]

I missed the lesson. What level did it end up helping?

[wary atlas]

All of them. 😄

So many people joined that they had to split it into two different VCs.

[tawdry gorge]

it was so so cute 😭

I love this server 😭

[candid stag]

i love u

thank u for the sesh

even though i couldnt stay long enough to take part

bik lieb hoñk

ur voice is so soothign and sexy

and ur such a good sessionführer

[tidal solar]

<@&526087863339843585>

📢 JX issued a ping for Grammar

Message

Hi everyone! The A1 grammar session is going to start in a few minutes. We will discuss the past tenses and possibly a bit about prepositions. Join the Lessons VC to participate.

[tawdry gorge]

@high mantle

@tranquil escarp ❤️

[high mantle]

❤️

[stark saffron]

Does the perfect tense really have a perfective aspect or is it just a plain past tense?

[bleak idol]

I always thought it was pre-tay-ri-tum

[stark saffron]

So the German perfect tense translates both to "I verb-ed" and "I have verb-ed"

[bleak idol]

itd be impressive to make it to level C without knowing past participles

[tawdry gorge]

im not very smart

[ruby ocean]

hecke just repeats sounds she hears and hopes it makes sense

[burnt scaffold]

lmao what happened

[bleak idol]

thats what german is all about

random syllables in a german accent

[wary atlas]

http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar/perfektexpl.html

[bleak idol]

is conjuntive and that sort A level?

fair enough thanks

what did u say sorry?

[true adder]

okay

[bleak idol]

i can try through chat

[stark saffron]

"Ich habe der Konversation zugehört."

[burnt scaffold]

yeah omit the zu

[rough roost]

Is the "als" preposition an A1 level?

[lethal tangle]

Ich kann probiere

[wary atlas]

machen

[true adder]

ich habe gemacht

?

[bleak idol]

Ich habe ein Foto gemacht

[true adder]

ich habe einen kuchen gemacht?

[sacred grove]

i habe von ihm gehoert

[tawdry gorge]

gehoert

[burnt scaffold]

einen Kuchen* :p

otherwise it's fine

[wary atlas]

studieren

[true adder]

i was gunna swithc to einen but didnt. hmmm

[bleak idol]

Ich habe im Ausland studiert

idk if Ausland is right

[true adder]

second guessing haha

[tawdry gorge]

er hat im ausland studiert

[lethal tangle]

Ich habe mein Hausaufgabe studiert

[true badger]

wir haben das Auto verkauft

[true adder]

whenever we have prefix of "ge" for a verb.. do we use habe / hat/ etc.. always?

[bleak idol]

ich will in Deutschland studieren :(

[tawdry gorge]

@true adder no, for verbs like stehen it's 'ist gestanden'

[true adder]

when are these lessons run btw? i randomly happened to look just now and joined. but these are great!

[tawdry gorge]

now and again

[true adder]

btw .. the einen kuchen is bcuz its masculine right

[bleak idol]

Masculine, akkusativ

Yes

[true adder]

ya ok

[bleak idol]

i think i heard do u speak germany

[true adder]

oh so sein is intransitive and haben is transitive?

[lethal tangle]

Zum Beispiel...

[true adder]

i feel like its sein .. intransitive right?

oh

[sacred grove]

i bin gegangen

[verbal swan]

ich bin

ich bin nach die landen gegangen

[true adder]

ich bin gefahrt?

oh

maybe gefahren sorry. i dont know

[rough roost]

How do write that?

Wake up

[wary atlas]

Ich bin aufgewacht.

aufwachen

Ich bin eingeschlafen.

einschlafen

Es ist passiert.

[rough roost]

Thanks!

[wary atlas]

sein, bleiben, werden

Ich bin gewesen,

[sacred grove]

gewesen =been

[verbal swan]

talk abouyt besucht

[true adder]

when you use haben. its always gunna end up being accusative right?

[verbal swan]

well its habe right

[rough roost]

I want you to talk about "als"

[verbal swan]

and a movement

[rough roost]

I don't know how to use ir

*it

[verbal swan]

????

me confused

yer

i get you

[true adder]

this lesson is so useful! 🙂

[verbal swan]

will there be more lessons

could we maybe have some for intertmediates aswell

in future

[tawdry gorge]

@wary atlas I've got a few resources that may help you

[true adder]

sein is always nominative right

ich bin ein person?

[lethal tangle]

Thanks for this. I could study/practice declension every day.

[sacred grove]

me too i have a deck for verbenmitprapositionalerganzung

[true adder]

oh

eine person?

😛

[lethal tangle]

Es macht mich verrückt

[severe bear]

If we have 2 verbs in sentens like - ich bleibe noch ein bisschen im bett liegen - whats can i do it in perfect ??

[sacred grove]

will post it in resources

[true adder]

ich bin eine person*

got it

[sacred grove]

can you trpe

[formal tinsel]

Shouldn't we use here nomalisrung mit zu?

[sacred grove]

that sentence

looked pretty

[lethal tangle]

haha liegengeblieben klingt komisch

[sacred grove]

long

[true badger]

ich bin noch ein bisschen im Bett liegen geblieben

[severe bear]

The first in infinitiv and second in perfect . Right ??

[formal tinsel]

Like
Ich bin noch ein bisschen im Bett zu liegen geblieben

[verbal swan]

lernen

??

is that also like bleiben in that sense

[formal tinsel]

So my sentence is wrong?

[verbal swan]

ok

[true adder]

is this lesson over? please say no 🙂

[verbal swan]

hahha

that word your saying

is that just imperfect

in english

is it because that would imply it is everything that isnt perfect aswell

how do you spell the word that youa re saying

[lethal tangle]

Gut! unsre Lektion ist liegenbleiben!

[verbal swan]

like the diffrence between sunka and sank

sunk

or i have seen

[true adder]

u must be australian lol

[verbal swan]

me

?

[true adder]

no. base

[verbal swan]

ah

[wary atlas]

Ich sehe
Ich sah

[verbal swan]

yes I thinlk

apart form war and one other right

[true adder]

wait. so its similar to formal vs informal?

oh

ohhhhhhhhh

got you okay

[verbal swan]

thanbk you

[rough roost]

Hey

[verbal swan]

ich habe Abendessen

[lethal tangle]

Du bist nicht Muttersprachler? Dien English Akzent kling ein bisschen Deutsch.☺️

[formal tinsel]

For formal we use kon2

[verbal swan]

ich werde zuruck kommen

[rough roost]

These lessons are recorded?

[true adder]

i think hes australian

[true badger]

Ich bin noch ein bisschen im Bett liegen geblieben zu is dropped

[rough roost]

Like if I want to hear them again

[wary atlas]

http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar/verbchart.html

[rough roost]

Okay

[lethal tangle]

Preterite example is first person?

[true adder]

ich bin is the same as ich war? but ich war is like praeteritum where bin is infinitiv?

but it means the same thing?

[boreal zealot]

yusss

lesson time

im joinin rn wait lemme take my thing

[wary atlas]

er/sie/es -t

[lethal tangle]

Bin is present tense first person of sein ( infinative)

[boreal zealot]

where are we readin

[true adder]

ohhhhh

[lethal tangle]

http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar/verbchart.html

[boreal zealot]

is it verb conjugation or like cases and so on

[true adder]

so in speaking.. we would never use ich hatte? but use ich habe instead?

[boreal zealot]

Are these essentially just the past tense of sein and haben

ty calypso

[wary atlas]

kommen

[formal tinsel]

Kam

[boreal zealot]

i can

lol

komme/kommst/kommt/kommen/kommt/kommen?

[formal tinsel]

Komme kommst kommt kommen

[severe bear]

Ich komme
Du kommst
Er koomt
Wir kommen
Ihr kommt
Sie kommen

[boreal zealot]

kommt instead of koomt

[severe bear]

Er kommt . Sorry

[true adder]

ich komme... du kommst.. er /sie / es kommen.. wir kommen. .ihr kommt.. sie kommen?

[boreal zealot]

kommt*

[formal tinsel]

I ch bin gekommen

[lethal tangle]

Dien gekomnen

Sein!

[boreal zealot]

ich bin gekommen

[lethal tangle]

Sein gekomnen

Schrecklich Finger!

[true adder]

uhhhh im so lost

lolololol

[severe bear]

Kam . Kamst . Kam . Kamen . Kamt . Kamen

[lethal tangle]

War, warst war waren wart waren

Ups!

[boreal zealot]

When is the Prateritum form used

so not in everyday life

[true adder]

ok i see

i think iget it

[formal tinsel]

fur geschriebene Sprache

[boreal zealot]

it's also used in formal places

[lethal tangle]

If you use it in conversation will it sound very strange?

[boreal zealot]

and is this another way of past tense of kommen but formal

[true adder]

its okay. you can continue 🙂

[lethal tangle]

( I read a lot of novels!)

[boreal zealot]

I see

[boreal zealot]

ich bin gekommen= ich kam (formal) ?

[true adder]

is there an english equivalent?

[lethal tangle]

When you tell someone a story. I went to the store isaw my friend etc... perfect?

[true adder]

oh i see

[wary atlas]

Perfekt and present perfect have similar grammatical structure. Präteritum and simple past have similar grammatical structure. However, usage is different.

[true adder]

if u accidentally speak in praeteritum.. does it sound super wrong?

[boreal zealot]

no

sein, haben z.B

[formal tinsel]

Wait how is the Präteritum is different from the simple past.

[true adder]

oh

[boreal zealot]

because you use simple past in spoken language

präteritum is more of a written tense

[formal tinsel]

They are the same as far i know

[lethal tangle]

Aaghe same( different names)

[formal tinsel]

Ok

[true adder]

but ulttimately.. the meaning is the same

[boreal zealot]

not really d : you use simple past when you have a definite past. i.e: I did my homework yesterday

The usage of these 2 tenses is different. That's all

[true adder]

youre only B level?

[boreal zealot]

Du hattest einen Hund

[true adder]

oh man.. im like A0.0000001 if youre B

lolol

[true badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zspMSIAP4pQ

[wary atlas]

https://german.stackexchange.com/questions/5055/usage-of-perfekt-and-präteritum-in-the-spoken-language

[formal tinsel]

Its like past perfect in English?

[lethal tangle]

Danke Base. ich gehe jetzt

[true adder]

tschuess

[boreal zealot]

Bis dann

[formal tinsel]

After nachdem comes past perfect and its a neben satz then u use a comma and the haputsatz mit Präteritum.

[tawdry gorge]

wouldn't it be hatte in that example @true badger ?

[sonic epoch]

Isn't that first image just normal Perfekt?

[true badger]

Honestly I think so

[boreal zealot]

You'd be hatte in this example

[wary atlas]

essen aß

[formal tinsel]

Aj es ist falsch

[true badger]

beware google images is out to get us

[formal tinsel]

Lol

[sonic epoch]

Fake german lessons made by the french to sabotage us

[true adder]

omg there are a million ppl here

[formal tinsel]

I get you

[sacred grove]

@true adder i just noticed

[boreal zealot]

I'm the only level B guy in vc

i feel weird

[true adder]

base is B it says

[boreal zealot]

jo

[sacred grove]

mehr als 20

leute

[sonic epoch]

So you'd use plusquamperfekt with something like "damals"? @wary atlas

[boreal zealot]

@sacred grove wovon redst du?

[agile drift]

So with Plusquamperfekt you should use Präteritum instead of Perfekt, shouldn't you?

[sonic epoch]

Both

[formal tinsel]

Both

[sacred grove]

leute in diese vc

[true adder]

wow german is too hard......

[sacred grove]

mehr als 20

[boreal zealot]

in diesem voicekanal

ne

bin nicht

[formal tinsel]

It Is the past of the simple past if that makes sense

[agile drift]

So it's rather the matter of style, isn't it?

[sacred grove]

ja in voice kanal

[boreal zealot]

in diesem or just im

[true badger]

This is correct?

[sonic epoch]

I ate cheese
vs
I had eaten cheese

[boreal zealot]

People prefer grammar lessons to reading sessions uwu

[true adder]

i didnt even realize there was a difference in english between your cheese example until now

[sacred grove]

we love both

[true adder]

in terms of past... and like almost past of the past

[boreal zealot]

there was a reading session yesterday

[sacred grove]

but

[boreal zealot]

and i have a german class tomorrow

[sacred grove]

i missed it

[boreal zealot]

3 sad 5 u

[sacred grove]

you mean 2 sad 4 u

[true adder]

1 sad 3 u

[boreal zealot]

what i used is in meme way but ok

[sacred grove]

1 to the 1 to the 1 to the 3

[boreal zealot]

Btw base

Will you explain modal particles?

[true badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-hKm5G9ack

[sonic epoch]

Why "dazu" instead of "damit" when talking about food

[boreal zealot]

dazu is like for it

yeah modal particles are a bit different

[true adder]

is it like

[cobalt forum]

Konjunktiv II -> braucht man so selten, dass man sich keine Gedanken drum machen muss ^^

[true adder]

the canadian "eh?"

[sacred grove]

is dazu a modal partikle

[boreal zealot]

no

[true adder]

or is it like

[sacred grove]

ow ok

[true adder]

the english "um"

[boreal zealot]

noo

[verbal swan]

I am confused with pluperfect ngl

[boreal zealot]

halt, eben, doch (not the meaning which is but)

[verbal swan]

how is it laied out

[boreal zealot]

i have 1 more question but it's releated to modal particles

[verbal swan]

as in an examople sentensce

yer

[true adder]

is this ocntent A level?

[wary atlas]

Ich esse Brot.
Ich habe Brot gegessen.
Ich aß Brot.
Ich hatte Brot gegessen.

[true adder]

omg

[boreal zealot]

What's the different between halt and eben? Afaik, they both mean like if something doesn't happen yet and it's easy to see the result in the future, we use halt/eben. But is there a difference between eben and halt?

[true adder]

oh ya past and present i get i think

[verbal swan]

so its using the inpoerfect followed by the oerfect

[true adder]

for perfekt

[verbal swan]

in a way

yes

i have never seen essen in imperfect

its so strange lol

[sonic epoch]

Ich esse Brot
I eat bread
Ich habe Brot gegessen. Ich aß Brot.
I ate bread
Ich hatte Brot gegessen
I had eaten bread

[wary atlas]

https://www.thefablecottage.com/german/henry-huhnchen

[verbal swan]

ich war nach deutland gegangen

[sonic epoch]

Hey, that's me 👉

[verbal swan]

is that pluperfect

with sein

besucht

so habe

ich war nach Deutschland geflogen

yes I think so

ja ich verstehe

[sonic epoch]

That would mean "I had flown to Germany"

so it depends on the context.

[verbal swan]

yes

gestern war ich nach Deutschland geflogen

[lilac pecan]

Doesn't sound right somehow

[verbal swan]

ok

will do

[boreal zealot]

Kiiya, do you have any idea for my question above?

[thick quest]

so is native speaking diffrent from the formal way? (like what we learn or read in german books ia diffrent from what a native speaker speaks?)

[iron mesa]

gestern war ich nach deutschland geflogen

[verbal swan]

yes

[iron mesa]

this means yesterday i had flown to germany

[wary atlas]

https://www.thefablecottage.com/german/aschenputtel

[verbal swan]

yes we know

but it may be wrong to a german speaker even though it follwos the grammar rules

[sonic epoch]

You'd say "Gestern bin ich nach Deutschland geflogen" @iron mesa

[iron mesa]

it wont sound right unless there is another past tense which has happened more recently

[verbal swan]

@sonic epoch that would be yesterday i flew to germany

rather than i have flown to germany

i think

so one is imperfect

and one is pluperfect

[sonic epoch]

Yeah but no one would say that

[lilac pecan]

Agree with Hühnermann

[verbal swan]

but thats what i mean

its grammatically correct

but not correct

when you would spealk

[lilac pecan]

I bet there's some complicated rule in grammar that you can only use certain tenses with certain types of verbs. Maybe. Because this can't be right :P

[iron mesa]

yeah i know, but you would say surely: ich bin ins Museum gegangen, danach ich nach deutschland geflogen war

does that sound right

[lilac pecan]

I'd probably just reccommend learning by intuition. Just practice..

[verbal swan]

diffrent languygae

[sonic epoch]

Yeah I know

[verbal swan]

@iron mesa

thats diffrent though

[iron mesa]

yeah

[verbal swan]

becauyse thats not pluperfect

[iron mesa]

that is

the second clause

[wary atlas]

http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar/verbclasseschart.html

[verbal swan]

oh right it is

yeah

[wary atlas]

http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar/praeteritumrot.html

[iron mesa]

that is how i think pluperfect is used, it is in relation to the past, but more back than another past tense sentence

[wheat kite]

Ich bin ins Museum gegangen, nachdem ich nach Deutschland geflogen war.

[wary atlas]

http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar/perfekttests.html

[iron mesa]

ah nachdem

[wary atlas]

http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar.html

[wheat kite]

:>

[verbal swan]

so for pluperfect

we introduce it with normal past

[iron mesa]

but apart from nachdem, the tenses were correct?

[verbal swan]

otherwise ist sounds weird??

[iron mesa]

pluperfect in both german and english is used in relation to another past event, it shows it happened before that event. However in germany they use it sometimes when we would use our english normal past tense

[sonic epoch]

Noch einmal bitte

[wary atlas]

Ich bin ins Museum gegangen, nachdem ich nach Deutschland geflogen war.

[iron mesa]

ah

sorry

[verbal swan]

i have gone to the museum after i flew to gemrany

[sacred grove]

i went to the museum after i went to germany

[iron mesa]

i went into the museum after i had flown to germany

[wheat kite]

yes, everything else about it is correct

[iron mesa]

i have question

kind of off topic

what is the difference between nachdem, danach all off those words?

[true adder]

whats happening

[sonic epoch]

Interesting.

[wheat kite]

PQP always needs a reference point in the past and it indicates that it happened before that point.
Perfekt indicates that an action is completed (or will be completed at a fixed point in time)

[iron mesa]

oh

[sonic epoch]

nachdem is the opposite order of danach, right?

[iron mesa]

after this

or after that

[verbal swan]

can you repeat

[wheat kite]

Oh, my interwebs is slow, I only now saw that Louis already explained it kchkch

[verbal swan]

L

[iron mesa]

So would you use nachdem when you are talking about a previous time

yeah it does

yeah thats it

[sonic epoch]

nachdem would be used in place of "after"

[verbal swan]

and then follwed

by pluperfect

[iron mesa]

kiran mute yourselfg

[verbal swan]

it is after

[iron mesa]

can i have an example of danach?

so danach when it is to a general idea

of something

nachdem is something exact

okay

i understand

so like dafur dazu

[verbal swan]

yeah i need an example of nachdem

[iron mesa]

i see

[verbal swan]

if anyone has one

[iron mesa]

Ich bin ins Museum gegangen, nachdem ich nach Deutschland geflogen war.

i got it

[high mantle]

the 'literal' translation of 'I have flown to Germany' isn't 'Ich war nach Deutschland geflogen', but rather 'Ich bin nach Deutschland geflogen'

[wary atlas]

>cefr B

[iron mesa]

yeah

[high mantle]

Louis' sentence is fine

[iron mesa]

but whewn you use it in relation to another past time, it is ich war geflogen

[verbal swan]

but what if we want to say i went to the museum after i had flown to germany

[sonic epoch]

Ich habe mein Deutsch verbessert, nachdem ich Baseds erklärung gehört hatte.

[iron mesa]

Ich bin ins Museum gegangen, nachdem ich nach Deutschland geflogen war.

it is this kiran

[verbal swan]

yes

so it couldnt be ich bin nach deutschland gegangen

right

[iron mesa]

yeah if you are only talk that alone

when you wanna use that in relation to an event that has happened sooner

it becomes pluperfect

[high mantle]

In formal duden grammar it can't be that, right

[true badger]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-grammar-gif-10470328

[iron mesa]

ah i gotta go eat dinner but i wanna hear prepositions

brb

[true badger]

prepositions=pain

[true adder]

huh

[tawdry gorge]

great definition learner tartarus

[sonic epoch]

position, movement, time mostly

[true adder]

ugh..... maybe ill just stick to only ever knowing english

i dont even know these words for english.. lmao

[sonic epoch]

to, for, on, under etc.

[boreal zealot]

yes

[iron mesa]

om back

[wary atlas]

Ich lerne Deutsch mit meinem Freund / mit meiner Freundin.

[iron mesa]

sorry, what are we learning rn?

ok

dw i got it

ok

in different contexts?

[sacred grove]

prepö

[iron mesa]

oh

no clue

[iron mesa]

oh

in den means into

use dative when you are already in?

[iron mesa]

die brucke geht uber den fluss

ich gehe uber dem fluss?

[heady dawn]

Die Brücke geht über den FLuss

[iron mesa]

ah

[heady dawn]

Ich gehe über DEN Fluss

[iron mesa]

aber ich gehe uber DEM Fluss

oh

den?

[tawny harness]

If it is über dem fluss it is flying above if you say die brücke geht über den fluss then it a normal bridge

[iron mesa]

ich gehe uber den Fluss?

[heady dawn]

yes

[iron mesa]

yeah i dont know how to type the umlauts 😦

[wary atlas]

ü ue

[iron mesa]

ue

[wary atlas]

ueber

[iron mesa]

okay

gotta go thank you

[true badger]

Can add a second keyboard on your computer

zen you can type like zis löl

ßuper nö?

[sacred grove]

cha cha real smooth

[sonic epoch]

Add the international English keyboard if you're on windows @iron mesa

or on your phone you can have the EN / DE keyboard.

long press for umlauts.

[true badger]

quite wörth it ja

[sonic epoch]

das lohnt sich

[boreal zealot]

does it matter if you say "im" or "In dem"

[sonic epoch]

Isn't "Haus" an ausnahme anyway? @wary atlas

you can shorten dem or das with in

Im, ins

[iron mesa]

im oder in meinem, ins oder in mein

[boreal zealot]

okay Danke

Ja

[wary atlas]

https://resources.german.lsa.umich.edu/grammatik/prepositions/

[boreal zealot]

Danke sehr

Are cities "nach" then

Ich bin nach Berlin gereist

[sonic epoch]

Ich möchte dir nur einen guten Abend wünschen.

[sacred grove]

am i good to go if i memorize the 156 prepositional verbs?

[boreal zealot]

For showing possession you would do "Das Buch der Frau" 1st noun is normal while 2nd is genitive?

[tawdry gorge]

mhm

[sacred grove]

so true...the abstract stuff are hard to remember

[sonic epoch]

I just want to know how do you use "Freundin" without alluding to the person as your girlfriend.

[boreal zealot]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[sonic epoch]

👍

[idle violet]

Don't use "meine Freundin" say "eine Freundin"

[boreal zealot]

how to spell that

[true badger]

kumpel

[wary atlas]

Eine Freundin von mir

[boreal zealot]

does kumpel change between male and female

[sacred grove]

i felt it would be crucial to memorize them to be able to use the da-words properly

the prepositional verbs

got it

[sonic epoch]

Danke Based. Wir lieben dich.

[wary atlas]

sub Grammar

[tidal solar]

:x: You're already in this group.

[sacred grove]

thanks for spending your time with us base

[wary atlas]

groups

[tidal solar]

These groups are currently accessible

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Type >sub to join a group or >group joinall to join all available groups .

[wary atlas]

sub advancedreading

[tidal solar]

❌ Bad argument: Group "advancedreading" not found.

[flint wolf]

Thank youuuuu

[tawdry gorge]

best base best teacher mod learnt so much I got level C

[true badger]

sub advancedreading

[tidal solar]

❌ Bad argument: Group "advancedreading" not found.

[true badger]

😭

[wary atlas]

❤️

The group issues will be fixed later so just join again later if you have an issue for now.

sub advancedreading

[tidal solar]

:x: You're already in this group.

[wary atlas]

Okay, it works now if anyone wants to join. However, please use the #botchannel 😄

[boreal zealot]

when are you going to hold the next session?

[wary atlas]

Not sure yet.

[boreal zealot]

what about on Tuesday or Wednesday?

or the best one is Friday?

[wary atlas]

Sure, I can host some of those days if it's what people want.

I'll think about it and post an announcement about it if I do one.

[sonic epoch]

How advanced is advanced reading

[wary atlas]

B2+

[sonic epoch]

nice.

[vestal quarry]

sub

[tidal solar]

❌ Bad argument: group is a required argument that is missing.

[vestal quarry]

groups joinall

[tidal solar]

These groups are currently accessible

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• Activities - Lessons! Subscribe for pings!
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• Coding - For all the coding nerds.
• Food - A group for food talks.
• Gaming - All gaming-related topics.
• Ouija - A Ouija-style game just for fun.
• Science - STEM-related topics.
• Translation - Offers weekly sentences to translate.
• Writing - Join to get weekly and monthly prompts!

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[sharp wolf]

Damn

sub Nudes

[tidal solar]

⛔ An error happened. This has been logged and reported.

[sharp wolf]

Damnit

xD

here comes sarcasm

[rare bolt]

group joinall

[tidal solar]

:white_check_mark: Added you to all available groups.

[sharp wolf]

group joinall

[tidal solar]

:white_check_mark: Added you to all available groups.

[sharp wolf]

WHAT ABOUT THE NUDES ONE!! xD

[tidal solar]

:x: You are not a moderator for this group.

[tawdry gorge]

oh lol

uhhh

@tranquil escarp helpu

forgot the bot changed

[tranquil escarp]

No, go away.

haha gotem ofc ill help you fren

group promote Reading hecke

[tidal solar]

:white_check_mark: Member hecke (222382805072478208) was added as moderator for Reading.

[tawdry gorge]

haha bamboozled again

[tidal solar]

<@&526087868079144961>

📢 hecke issued a ping for Reading

Message

Hello delicious memers. Once again I'll be doing a reading session at 20:00 CET this Saturday. This reading session is open to all levels. In the case that the majority are between a2-b1, we'll be starting to read Harry Potter und der Stein der Weisen, and for b2+, you'll have the option between continuing the Witcher books our lovely admin Base started or Die Physiker. (Note: The times and material are all fully flexible, and I'd be happy to take suggestions from every user!) I look forward to seeing all you lovely, motivated learners there <3

[surreal fable]

hecke

[tawdry gorge]

ratte

[surreal fable]

LMAO

[boreal zealot]

i have an exam on this friday :(

[surreal fable]

omg this sounds fun

[tawdry gorge]

it's on saturday after though? 👀 @boreal zealot

[boreal zealot]

ah lol

didnt notice kek

[hollow narwhal]

If I run a session I'm going to have a mod ping for me

Why would you want to ping it yourself

[tawdry gorge]

are you planning to trax :D

[tranquil escarp]

Or you can just ask for the role like honko.

[hollow narwhal]

No. That's like being my own Butler

I will teach natives how to speak bad German

[tawdry gorge]

don't bother, they already know how to

[flint wolf]

OOOOOF

[weak rover]

Hohoho this time I'll surely join! 🤩

[runic badge]

[tawdry gorge]

😍

[flint wolf]

I wanna speak like a native

Bad like a true native

🙃

[toxic grove]

[devout lantern]

group joinall

[tidal solar]

:white_check_mark: Added you to all available groups.

[analog epoch]

Is the reading lessons a follow along kind of deal, or does it involve explanations of things? 🙂

[ruby ocean]

It depnds on who is hosting it, but usually you read a German text (outloud) with other people and try to translate it into English. You can ask questions and get help doing so if you need to.

[wary atlas]

Yeah, like everyone takes turns reading a few lines and then translates. (Or you can just listen in without participating if you want)

[ebon parrot]

group joinall

[tidal solar]

:white_check_mark: Added you to all available groups.

[formal tinsel]

group joinall

[tidal solar]

:white_check_mark: Added you to all available groups.

[storm bough]

group joinall

[tidal solar]

:white_check_mark: Added you to all available groups.

[tidal solar]

<@&526087868079144961>

📢 hecke issued a ping for Reading

Message

hello saucy learners, our all-levels reading session will begin in 50 short minutes!

[boreal zealot]

UwU

[tranquil escarp]

who ping

[candid stag]

Uwu

What's an all level reading session

[boreal zealot]

Aaaa why at the only time I can‘t do ;-;

[solar tangle]

a reading session for all levels

[hollow narwhal]

You should read sebi

[uneven garden]

group joinall

[tidal solar]

:white_check_mark: Added you to all available groups.

[tawdry gorge]

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

[tawdry gorge]

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

[burnt scaffold]

.

[tawdry gorge]

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

http://www1.udel.edu/LLL/language/deutsch/handouts/summer_2016/HP!.pdf

[burnt scaffold]

ayy

[tawdry gorge]

omg

[burnt scaffold]

the api is still not responsive I think lmao

[tawdry gorge]

[tidal solar]

⛔ An error happened. This has been logged and reported.

[burnt scaffold]

yeah thanks freddie lmao

[tawdry gorge]

http://www1.udel.edu/LLL/language/deutsch/handouts/summer_2016/HP!.pdf

[woven barn]

wir sind hier

[storm turret]

what's happening with discord

what's happening with discord

[tawdry gorge]

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

[burnt scaffold]

it won't work for the time being ^^

it won't work for the time being ^^

it won't work for the time being ^^

[tidal solar]

⛔ An error happened. This has been logged and reported.

⛔ An error happened. This has been logged and reported.

[boreal zealot]

I got disconnected from the voice chat :/

[storm turret]

https://status.discordapp.com/

it's probably the latency and API issues discord is having

it's probably the latency and API issues discord is having

it's probably the latency and API issues discord is having

[hollow zenith]

hello

[storm turret]

https://status.discordapp.com/

posting messages even takes a few tries :/

posting messages even takes a few tries :/

[hollow narwhal]

Haven't been able to post for an hour

[storm turret]

posting messages even takes a few tries :/

[tawdry gorge]

oh my god

[tawdry gorge]

group ping Reading reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

[tidal solar]

⛔ An error happened. This has been logged and reported.

[astral slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBK5cExVpHE

[tidal solar]

<@&526087868079144961>

📢 hecke issued a ping for Reading

Message

reading session is starting now! :peppycheer:

[woven barn]

XD

[storm turret]

so viele Russen heute Abebd

[woven barn]

Ich versichere Ihnen, das hat nichts mit dem Hack der Discord Server zu tun

[boreal zealot]

Discord is being stupid

[tawdry gorge]

yeah :(

[boreal zealot]

Hmm, should I join reading vc

[tawdry gorge]

go ahead, we'd be happy to have you

[boreal zealot]

But I'm bad in the deutsch zu sprechen

[tawdry gorge]

thats why we're here to learn haha

[boreal zealot]

Lol

What's the thing we're reading

[gilded trellis]

hi there

[tawdry gorge]

http://www1.udel.edu/LLL/language/deutsch/handouts/summer_2016/HP!.pdf

[storm turret]

had a brainfart moment. not perfect but futur 2?
musste gewesen sein

[boreal zealot]

Oh

[tawdry gorge]

yep!

[boreal zealot]

Ich habe es schon gelesen

Auf Deutsch

Lol

[tawdry gorge]

futur 2 with modal

[boreal zealot]

Ich habe es auf meinem Kindle

Welche Seite lesen wir grad?

[storm turret]

we covered futur 2 a couple weeks back. i should be paying attention to that rip

s. 3

[boreal zealot]

Okay

Welche Abschnitt

[storm turret]

Mr Dursley blinzelte und starrte die Katze an

[boreal zealot]

I see it

Thank you, hecke senpai

What are people speaking russian

What

[gilded trellis]

haha they're trying to find the difference between starren

[boreal zealot]

And?

[gilded trellis]

and anstarren or something like that

[boreal zealot]

Oh

To stare and to stare at

[gilded trellis]

exactly

but i think you can say

ich starre dich an

[boreal zealot]

Yeah

[gilded trellis]

but not ich starre dich

[boreal zealot]

I stare at you

Yeah "I stare you"

[gilded trellis]

hm but when can you use "starren"?

[boreal zealot]

Just

"Was machst du!?" "Ich starr' grad"

What are you doing!? I'm staring

Or like

Starr' nicht!

Don't stare!

[storm turret]

if it's the same as english, looking at someone intensely without blinking

[gilded trellis]

ohhh okay

thank you!

[boreal zealot]

Doosly

I forgot how difficult this book is

;-;

[gilded trellis]

is it?

[boreal zealot]

Yes

O b s e r v e

[gilded trellis]

hm, i'll read it in the weihnachtsferien then haha

[boreal zealot]

I never acc finished it

I might too

[gilded trellis]

the thing is I have this problem where if I speak with my friends / with the teacher / raise my hand to answer a question, I go from B2 > A1

litrelly 😦

[boreal zealot]

Lmao same

[gilded trellis]

I don't know how to improve my german

[boreal zealot]

No one does lmao

[gilded trellis]

haha

[boreal zealot]

We're all winging it

[storm turret]

Die Übung macht den Meister

[tawdry gorge]

weder...noch

[burnt scaffold]

kidnap a native speaker

[tawdry gorge]

neither the sign nor a map

[boreal zealot]

kidnaps Syro

[gilded trellis]

its like I'm prepared to say what I have to say but it comes out so

weird

[boreal zealot]

S p r i c h d e u t s c h m i t m i r

[gilded trellis]

weird

[boreal zealot]

weird

[gilded trellis]

ah ups sorry

Also

Woher kommst du?

[boreal zealot]

Ich?

[gilded trellis]

jap

[boreal zealot]

England

[storm turret]

entweder - oder: either - or
weder - noch: netiher - nor

[gilded trellis]

Lebst du in Deutschland?

oder lernst du deutsch als hobby?

[boreal zealot]

Nee

Aber ich will da umziehen

oh wait me

@tawdry gorge

?

[burnt scaffold]

yeah

[boreal zealot]

I wasn't paying attention

Where are we

[tawdry gorge]

between the lines in red :3

[boreal zealot]

Oh shoot that's a long time

But opkay

[tawdry gorge]

ahah

[boreal zealot]

Reading time

o p k a y

[burnt scaffold]

eintreffen = to arrive

he couldn't fail to note

it's only used in certain phrases ^^ it cannot stand on it's own

[boreal zealot]

I'm gonna deafen/mute for now, ping me when it's my turn, pretty please :D

Sorry, lol

[burnt scaffold]

to dress up

[gilded trellis]

darf ich auch mitmachen? 🙂

[burnt scaffold]

sure, you were afk when it was your turn 👀

nanu is just an expression of suprise

[boreal zealot]

Omae wa mou shindeiru
Nanuuuu

[burnt scaffold]

lmfao

[burnt scaffold]

your accent is really good 👀

[boreal zealot]

How was my accent, uwu

[burnt scaffold]

it's actually collecting here

it's not the people gathering, it's them collecting stuff for something

[boreal zealot]

Nvm I'll wait till next time to ask about accent

[burnt scaffold]

yeah sorry I wanna hear it one more time before saying anything lmao

[boreal zealot]

Ah fair :p

Whose turn is it rn?

[tawdry gorge]

0's

[boreal zealot]

oki

Oh hello @ruby ocean

[tawdry gorge]

pferd <3

[boreal zealot]

(also exciting woRD pls)

[lyric goblet]

oh yall are reading harry potter?

[boreal zealot]

Indeed

[tawdry gorge]

mhm

[burnt scaffold]

yup

[lyric goblet]

well I’m procrastinating

so… gimme a sec

[ruby ocean]

warum höre ich kein Deutsch?

[boreal zealot]

Oof

[tawdry gorge]

its difficult for him to translate in english

so he's doing it in russian

then I

[ruby ocean]

@boreal zealot die Hommage

[tawdry gorge]

m doing it in english

[ruby ocean]

okay, ich vergebe ihm

[boreal zealot]

Ah

Ich gebe ihnen eine Hommage.

[burnt scaffold]

to point at

[boreal zealot]

hinweisen?

[ruby ocean]

not in that sense

[boreal zealot]

(I'm guessing, since I learned hinweisen yesterday)

[ruby ocean]

oh nvm, auf etw. hinweisen can be used physically too

[boreal zealot]

I mean, I thought hinweisen I actually only meant "to point out"

[ruby ocean]

I know it to mean to indicate sth.

[boreal zealot]

Lemme dict.cc it

"to allude" or "to indicate" smth

yea

[storm turret]

i think hinweisen is more for abstract things rather than a physical action?

[boreal zealot]

Yeah

Like

[burnt scaffold]

it can be used both ways, like Pferd says

[boreal zealot]

Das Schild wies die Zugzeite hin

Idk

[burnt scaffold]

here it's quite literally the action of raising your arm and point at the sky though

[boreal zealot]

@burnt scaffold Is that correct?

The sentence

[burnt scaffold]

not quite
you can say wies auf die Zugzeiten hin

[boreal zealot]

Ah

[gilded trellis]

@burnt scaffold is there a specific date where you run these sorts of events?

[ruby ocean]

lots of verb with this sense of "pointing at sth." use auf

[boreal zealot]

Ah okay

Also, whose turn is it rn

[burnt scaffold]

type >groups in #botchannel , you can subscribe to certain groups to get notifications about sessions

[lyric goblet]

cactus is translating and then it’s, well, whoever is after them

[boreal zealot]

Ah Kullare next

Then pferd if pferd goes

And then me again woo

[ruby ocean]

I am too pro

so no

[burnt scaffold]

Pferd are you gonna read too ?

aw

[boreal zealot]

Pferd is too good at german

[ruby ocean]

my pronunciation could do with work

[lyric goblet]

Unbehagen

[tawdry gorge]

pferd reading

[lyric goblet]

Anbehagen

[burnt scaffold]

@boreal zealot

[boreal zealot]

Oh ist es mir?

(Great grammar)

[burnt scaffold]

yeah

[boreal zealot]

Where are we

[tawdry gorge]

@rain spire @true badger hi! sorry for all the russian, it should be over now

[burnt scaffold]

where the direct speech starts

[boreal zealot]

Which page

Lol

Oh

Found it

How much should I read

Bis wann

?

Me waiting for someone to explain where I should read

[true badger]

lol no worries, doesnt bother me

[boreal zealot]

I'll read like

The direct speech and the paragraph after

[burnt scaffold]

can you say Flüsterern again

there's no ch in there :c

yeah that's good

[boreal zealot]

@burnt scaffold Wie war mein (schlechter) Akzent

[burnt scaffold]

I think it was alright

you did well ^^ rip english

[astral slate]

^^

[boreal zealot]

Danke~

War es wie ein Deutscher?

Also I feel like I shouldn't be level B, everyone else who's B seems so much better ;-;

[burnt scaffold]

well you can still hear the british influence so no :D

[boreal zealot]

Case in point: sunset

Also I feel like I shouldn't be level B, everyone else who's B seems so much better ;-;

Case in point: sunset

[storm turret]

there's a huge gap between beginning of B1 and end of B2

and some sentences are easier than others

[boreal zealot]

I'm bad tbh

[burnt scaffold]

to loose one's temper

stolpern = to stumble

ins Stoplern geraten = to start stumbling

[boreal zealot]

Stolpern - a stumble

Ich muss verließen

[tawdry gorge]

tschau robin

[boreal zealot]

Tschüß!

[tawdry gorge]

danke dass du gekommen bist ^^

[half cosmos]

Jetzt werde ich gehen. Danke für diesen Unterricht und tschüss!!

[upper lake]

wie geht's diese lessons

[tawdry gorge]

good

it's a mishmash of russian, german and english lmao

[lyric goblet]

http://www1.udel.edu/LLL/language/deutsch/handouts/summer_2016/HP!.pdf

[boreal zealot]

http://www1.udel.edu/LLL/language/deutsch/handouts/summer_2016/HP!.pdf

[tawdry gorge]

@upper lake btw would you like to do scribblio in a few hours then

[severe bear]

Kopieren sie bitte den text hier

[boreal zealot]

open the link above

the udel.edu one

[severe bear]

Thank u . Any page please ??

[boreal zealot]

page 5

[burnt scaffold]

second last paragraph

[severe bear]

Thank u 💪❤

[true adder]

is this B level?

[lyric goblet]

it’s harry potter, it’s pretty beginner friendly

[true adder]

oh boy.. :S

if this is A

im A.000001

wait . did u say pfui means you?

oh . ew

oh

[upper lake]

yeah I will play scribblio with yall

[uneven garden]

I am not here to read, i am just listening and following along as i eat

[upper lake]

syro, was ist chickpeas in Deutsch

[burnt scaffold]

Kichererbsen

[tawdry gorge]

yaay

[upper lake]

danke

ich mag Kichererbsen

[true adder]

i dont tihnk i will read. i will follow along. this is a bit too advanced for me i think

sorry

[boreal zealot]

ich bedanke mich für den Unterricht .. Aber es ist ziemlich zu spät bei mir deswegen gehe ich nun ins Bett .. ein schönen Abend noch .. Bis nächstes Mal

[storm turret]

gute Nacht!

[true adder]

owl shower?

oh like a ton of owls

[storm turret]

yup

[boreal zealot]

Schönen Abend. Ich muss jetzt auch gehen. Vielen Dank für den Unterricht.

[true adder]

Nadia is really good for A level 🙂 good job