#lessons

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boreal zealot
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russian

ruby ocean
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oh okay, you don't sound it

ruby ocean
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Doktooooooor

boreal zealot
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thanks base ❤

ruby ocean
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law firm/practice

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Miss

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Missus is sexual, don't do that

wary atlas
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Mrs.

ruby ocean
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counter

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depends which English you speak I guess lols

rough robin
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my english today

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is

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terrible

boreal zealot
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same

ruby ocean
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is okay

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you only A2

rough robin
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I translate Frau as Lady

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🤦

boreal zealot
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but *everyday

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berg are you A2 english

rough robin
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not really

boreal zealot
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😄

ruby ocean
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Berg is C2 slang English, but A2 normal English

rough robin
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at least I don't think so

ruby ocean
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Source: me

rough robin
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so true

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Actually I think I'm great at coloquial english

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but so trash at normal english

desert compass
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coloquial english ?

rough robin
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colloquial*

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umgangssprachliches Englisch

desert compass
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What's the difference to normal ?

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Or is normal like Hochdeutsch ?

ruby ocean
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When you use lots of slang words

rough robin
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you don't type

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yo

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that's more of a colloquial english

ruby ocean
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For example, if I ask you for a piece of bread. Do you have a piece of bread?

rough robin
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col·lo·qui·al
kəˈlōkwēəl/Enviar
adjective
(of language) used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary.

ruby ocean
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shit/colloquial English: oi mate, got some bread?

boreal zealot
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Pferd where are you from

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ARBEITPLATZ IM RESTAURANT

desert compass
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I suck at all languages, so dunno thinker

boreal zealot
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who the fuck cares about Berlin

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ein Stück Berlin

rough robin
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WHATDOESHEWANT

ruby ocean
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what does that damn woman want

rough robin
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WOMAN

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TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT

ruby ocean
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I hail from the Land of Original Freedom

boreal zealot
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WOMAN WANTS TO SEE THE FOKKEN BERLIN OK

ruby ocean
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only a bit of it

boreal zealot
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BUT HE SHOWS HER ONLY A RESTAURANT

ruby ocean
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oh yeah, some boyfriend he is

boreal zealot
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it was sooo sweet <:

ruby ocean
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78 euros

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expensive cake

rough robin
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haha

boreal zealot
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oh no he left

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:<

rough robin
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tf

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xD

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ick

ruby ocean
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I heard that when I lived there

boreal zealot
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ick bims ne eckte berlinerin

ruby ocean
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it was confusing

wary atlas
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😄

ruby ocean
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write it in Russian

rough robin
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yes

ruby ocean
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we check via google

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(joke)

boreal zealot
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😦

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i was about to write

ruby ocean
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(becaues google translate might not undestand)

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well, do it anyway, maybe it can

boreal zealot
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Так, Берго большая какашка

ruby ocean
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Like Loch

rough robin
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TAK!

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HE DEFEND

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BUT HE ALSO

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AТак

sharp valley
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i'm done

boreal zealot
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XDD

ruby ocean
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"
So, Bergo is a big shit"

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what

boreal zealot
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ahahhahaah

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not shit

rough robin
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LOL

boreal zealot
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it's more like a sweet poop

rough robin
ruby ocean
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not sure that's better

boreal zealot
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dimunititv for a poop

ruby ocean
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is it like a cute way?

boreal zealot
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yeah

rough robin
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I'm a poo poo?

boreal zealot
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yea youre a poo poo

ruby ocean
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so Bergo is a little poopo

rough robin
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coon

boreal zealot
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poopchen

rough robin
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Base is leaving kappa

boreal zealot
golden ledge
rough robin
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did you like my atak joke?

boreal zealot
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yes

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it was amazing

#

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ok bye, have to sleep!

thin goblet
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bye foxxerl

rough robin
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gbye foxxo

wary atlas
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Gute Nacht!

gusty sand
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какашка?

rough robin
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page 9

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line 19

ruby ocean
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reflexive verb

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or "what is to see from here" perhaps

boreal zealot
silent plinth
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Can anybody help me with my "essay"?

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Tommorrow*

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Just dm me if you're a kind soul.

sharp mist
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wtf

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i join and the facking germans leave

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how i suppose to learn german?

desert compass
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@silent plinth
Post your attempt in #writing
preferably in google docs with replacement mode

boreal zealot
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@sharp mist could you tone down your language a little

mystic lantern
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😂

runic valley
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@sharp mist ~~ Ye pipe down over there ye maggot~~

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👁u👁

rough robin
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rood, krop

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very rood

jaunty zephyr
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Ich habe frage: in den texten von Heidi, sie sagen nicht "Deine Welt ist die Berge" sondern "Deine Welt sind die Berge". Warum?

boreal zealot
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Das Subjekt des Satzes ist "Die Berge". Umgeformt würde der Satz heißen: "Die Berge sind deine Welt"

jaunty zephyr
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Achso, vielen dank

boreal zealot
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Gern

unkempt cedar
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I thought it was because die Berge is plural so it's sind, not ist.

quartz otter
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@unkempt cedar It is

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But they thought Welt was the subject

unkempt cedar
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oh

boreal zealot
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Hey guys can i get some feed back while im editing my short paragraph ?

boreal zealot
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Sure, I'd suggest you post it in #writing

subtle igloo
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„Dies ist der beste Weg, um die Sprache zu erlernen.”

Okay, I have too many doubts in here. The first, why does the sentence end with 'erlernen' and not simply 'lernen'? And secondly, when to use um zu and zu alone?

Thank you!

still stag
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@subtle igloo

  1. both would be correct. 'erlernen' is not a thing in english, both versions translate to 'learn'.
    erlernen however implies that you do something for it, I guess

Other example:
arbeiten = work
erarbeiten = work smth. out / work for smth.

this is similar with the verb 'lernen'

um zu = in order to
zu = to

so you would have 'in order to learn the language'

I hope that helps

subtle igloo
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@still stag thank you! That really helped.

still stag
solar totem
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what is the best way to learn vocabulary?

reef hazel
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pound the book into your head

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but really, flash cards might help, writing sentences, translating articles, etc

late terrace
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And checking on new words when writing with people. Try to use them right away.

vestal vigil
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hallo/#

boreal zealot
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guys i want a course to make me native in 3 days , thanks in advance 🙂

wary atlas
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I recommend trying out reincarnation.

boreal zealot
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🙃 🙃 🙃

jagged owl
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Same base lol

glass rune
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@boreal zealot how about you ask mika to trade native languages mmlol

dapper parrot
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Sorry, I don't trade my native language. sadlol

glass rune
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ah ju äpsolutli schor sät ju wud not träid it?

dapper parrot
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Yes :D

glass rune
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okäi zänn :D

solar totem
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when do we start this reincarnation?

tranquil escarp
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@ruby ocean ow bout that ping

ruby ocean
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war beim Kacken.

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@tranquil escarp

tranquil escarp
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Nice. die_kacke_vong_der_seska

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So uh. What should I say.

ruby ocean
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can you assist me with something

fierce wren
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Pferd, I won't be able to be here. 😦

ruby ocean
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just say "LESSON. SIMPLE WORD ORDER. BE THERE OR BE SQUARE."

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why flaps

tranquil escarp
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I think I've given you permission to do it.

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Try >announce "your message here don't forget the quotes you shitmeme" "Learning German".

fierce wren
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dad doesn't want that I do computer anymore today

tranquil escarp
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"Dammit dad, do you want me to do meth instead?"

ruby ocean
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but it will be educational

primal pondBOT
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<@&229594762762649601>: Lesson: Word Order in simple sentence. 10 minutes woooo

runic pelican
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ooh

carmine briar
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yay

tranquil escarp
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(In Unterricht voice/text channels.)

ruby ocean
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can someone join

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oh forgot to say

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A level

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can I be heard

vital atlas
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is word what order??

ruby ocean
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is what word order

runic pelican
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luna would murder me if i skipped my greatest weakness

fierce wren
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heh

tranquil escarp
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Did you tell your dad to fok off?

fierce wren
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no

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I wouldn't say that

ruby ocean
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Flappy going through her rebellious years

tranquil escarp
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Agreed. It's much better to just beat him up.

fierce wren
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no

tranquil escarp
fierce wren
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...

fierce wren
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technically yes

ruby ocean
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READ

fierce wren
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yap

solar totem
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reading intensifies

fierce wren
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Mikaaaaa.

runic pelican
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I know this one

sleek wigeon
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Hello everyone!

fierce wren
sleek wigeon
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I have not been on here for ages

raw oyster
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Word order boi

fierce wren
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boooi

raw oyster
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My greatest weakness

solar totem
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oh boi

granite lynx
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Subject, verb, done.

raw oyster
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These times that it is different from the dutch word order im ded

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These rare moments

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Rare sentences

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I hate them

wise narwhal
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do you mean conjunctions?

ruby ocean
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they might be included

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who knows!!!

fierce wren
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👀

ruby ocean
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me

wise narwhal
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Seepferd

fierce wren
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inb4 the lesson will talk about prepositions as well

raw oyster
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nicht placement is ezpzlmnsqz if your dutch

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Luckily I am

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But rip flappy

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Which is native french

solar totem
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sure buddy

fierce wren
jagged owl
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch.

raw oyster
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french has the weirdest negation rules

winter rain
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Der Mann gibt Die Frau der Buch

tranquil escarp
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So I have a question. As a Scotsman, how many sheep do you have and are you a leprechaun?

solar totem
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Ein mann gibt eine frau das buch

raw oyster
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wut

covert heron
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Scottish people are lit.

slim meteor
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch

edgy sonnet
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🥖

ruby ocean
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch.
The man gives the woman the book.

runic pelican
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch

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RIP lmao

wise narwhal
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Das buch gibt der Frau ein Mann

rugged cedar
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einen Mann

dapper parrot
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^ no

quartz otter
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🤔

tranquil escarp
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^no

dapper parrot
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@rugged cedar "ein Mann" is the subject, du Nudel

rugged cedar
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just different thing happening kappa

ruby ocean
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch.
Der Frau gibt der Mann das Buch.
Das Buch gibt der Mann der Frau.
Der Mann gibt das Buch der Frau.

rugged cedar
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my version is just so much more realistic though eyeslol

sharp rapids
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beep

runic pelican
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SB- man IO- woman DO- book

boreal zealot
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Am I audible?

dapper parrot
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No

chrome coral
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Mann sub
Frau dat
Buch akku

dapper parrot
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You're lagging

jagged owl
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Indirect Object: The woman (Dat)
Direct Object: The book (Akk)
boreal zealot
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Nominative- Mann

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Dative- Der frau

sturdy kelp
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What Sly said 😛

boreal zealot
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Accusative--> Das buch

runic pelican
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nom- Mann dat- frau akk-buch

slim meteor
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nomativ der mann

sturdy kelp
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Because Frau has got the thingy before "der", not "die"

boreal zealot
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Answering the questions, Who, to whom and hwat

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what*

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Also der frau

runic pelican
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it would be den Mann then

jagged owl
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^

boreal zealot
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Der Frau

solar totem
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cause of die to der

slender nest
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Because of the same reason, the article

peak scaffold
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Cuz its die frau

wise narwhal
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es ist Weihnachten!

jagged owl
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Cause there arent two subjects

boreal zealot
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The sentence would not make sense then

slender nest
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because Frau is already the indirect

tranquil escarp
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Becose were smart our iqs r lyke 150.

solar totem
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we ask questions like was ?

peak scaffold
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It's getting verb-ed

boreal zealot
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I guess the context

slim meteor
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because books can't give men to ppl?

sturdy kelp
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Because otherwise it would not have any direct object?

rugged cedar
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then you've never seen a real book

jagged owl
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lol

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Why are you A2 if youre native

tranquil escarp
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He's dumb.

rugged cedar
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^

wise narwhal
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wer will ein Buch zum Weihnachten bekommen?

peak scaffold
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Gibt?

slender nest
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gibt?

runic pelican
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geben

rugged cedar
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zu* Weihnachten

chrome coral
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Geben

royal dagger
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Natives can be bad at german too... i got the lowest grade possible for my deutsch abitur :D

jagged owl
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Geben

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oh wait

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finite?

solar totem
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"geben intensifies"

jagged owl
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V2

solar totem
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verb is on mid ?

ruby ocean
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch.
Der Frau gibt der Mann das Buch.
Das Buch gibt der Mann der Frau.
Der Mann gibt das Buch der Frau.

jagged owl
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Verb second position

peak scaffold
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Verb is the second

chrome coral
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Vsp

slender nest
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it's always the second

runic pelican
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seems legit

slim meteor
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the posistion of gibt

rugged cedar
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i usually wrote so well in my exams that my teacher had to give me a passing grade even though i hadnt read the book we needed to read for it

jagged owl
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xD

peak scaffold
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GOLDEN

rugged cedar
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which was kinda amusing tbh

abstract merlin
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hii

solar totem
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yes... fun things

slender nest
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Gibt der Mann der Frau das Buch?

chrome coral
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Gibt der Mann der Frau das Buch

jagged owl
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Gibt der Mann der Frau das Buch?

slim meteor
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Gibt der Mann der Frau das Buch?

runic pelican
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Did the man give the book to the woman? Gibt der Mann der Frau das buch?

jagged owl
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Idk that form

runic pelican
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Geben Sie das Buch 😄

slim meteor
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idek what imperative clause is

fierce wren
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I would say something else. thinking_cat

jagged owl
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Gib der Mann der Frau das Buch.

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?

fierce wren
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Is it "did the man give" as the past?

ruby ocean
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Geben Sie der Frau das Buch!
Give the woman the book!

rugged cedar
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"Geben Sie das Buch her" would work

jagged owl
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oh gosh

runic pelican
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to the fronttttt

chrome coral
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First pos

slender nest
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There is no "before" section

ruby ocean
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SILVER RULE: In a question or command clause, the finite verb is the first element of the clause.

peak scaffold
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SILVER

fierce wren
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If so, "gab der Mann der Frau das Buch" eh 🤔

solar totem
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bronze RULE?

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sollen

jagged owl
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wollen

peak scaffold
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Können

chrome coral
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Mogen

runic pelican
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können, müssen

solar totem
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mögen*

peak scaffold
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Lol no one said the same

jagged owl
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werden?

solar totem
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dürf?

runic pelican
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sollen

sturdy kelp
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dürfen?

fierce wren
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durfen

slim meteor
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should I already know this?

chrome coral
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Möchten

solar totem
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umlaut please

ebon ginkgo
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what is modal fml

ruby ocean
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dürfen to be permitted to, “may”
können to be able to, “can”
mögen to like
müssen to have to, “must”
sollen to be supposed to, “should”
wollen to want, “will”

fierce wren
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.<

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I am sorry for that umlaut

slim meteor
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pardon?

solar totem
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Der mann sollt das buch der frau geben ?

slender nest
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Der Mann will der Frau das Buch geben

rugged cedar
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"Sollen wir das können?"

runic pelican
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Der Mann kann der Frau das Buch geben.

jagged owl
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Der mann kann der Frau das Buch geben.

sour acorn
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^kann

jagged owl
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wait its kann

sour acorn
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^muss

solar totem
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cause of BRONZE RULE

sour acorn
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ye

slender nest
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Because it's the declined verb

runic pelican
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because it's greedy

jagged owl
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I dont know my forms <~>

solar totem
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cause modal verbs are bullies

sturdy kelp
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Because the "mögen" and those stuff tells it to be in the end?

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It's like a helping verb no?

runic pelican
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you can think of it that way.

fierce wren
runic pelican
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it gives a mood

solar totem
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oh bfeck

slender nest
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Will der Mann der Frau das Buch geben?

rugged cedar
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👍

jagged owl
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Kann der Mann der Frau das Buch geben?

sturdy kelp
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Ok 😛 It's a bit defferent in norwegain xd

slim meteor
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Kann der Mann der Frau das Buch geben...

jagged owl
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nope

slim meteor
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dont ? me pls

atomic python
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niemand weiß, warum der Mann der Frau das Buch geben will

slim meteor
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i get nervous

royal dagger
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Langeweile, you need a ? at the end

rugged cedar
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you're too advanced for us

slim meteor
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oh

grizzled fjord
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Don't @ me

runic pelican
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Der Mann hat das Buch gegeben

solar totem
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Der mann hat der frau das buch gegeben

slender nest
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Der Mann hat der Frau das Buch gegeben

jagged owl
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@boreal zealot Mute please this is a lesson

atomic python
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how complex can this sentence get

jagged owl
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I dont know present perfect

solar totem
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god darn bullies

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why they cant let the org verb stay in its position

atomic python
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Der Mann hätte der Frau das Buch geben können

jagged owl
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A what is?

runic pelican
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a dependent clause/

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When I went to the store

peak scaffold
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Cbell your thing 😂

jagged owl
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I just couldnt hear you

misty creek
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dependent c l a u s e s

sturdy kelp
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Me neither

solar totem
#

after

slender nest
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The man, the one with black hat, gives the book to the woman.

jagged owl
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After I ate

solar totem
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until

runic pelican
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If i have a hat

solar totem
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because

runic pelican
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Because she is ill

ruby ocean
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Because she wants it.

meager finch
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I like dogs , because they are fun

misty creek
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Der Mann könnte der Frau das Buch gegeben haben.

solar totem
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my d i c k

jagged owl
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I think thats an appositive @slender nest

misty creek
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app-

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what

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what even are appositives

atomic python
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I thought appositive was only with a

misty creek
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what's the german name for it?

ruby ocean
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The man gives the woman the book because she wants it.

jagged owl
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wait nvm

atomic python
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I think German has none, only relative clauses

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but I honestly am not sure

jagged owl
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What was the task again

solar totem
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Der mann gibt der frau das buch deshalb sie will es ????

slender nest
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie es will

jagged owl
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@ruby ocean

runic pelican
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie es will.

uncut vigil
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der man hat das buch gegeben weil sie es will

carmine briar
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Der mann gibts die frau der buch, weil sie es will

uncut vigil
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ach "gives"

sturdy kelp
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch weil sie will es.

jagged owl
#

Guys

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D:

sturdy kelp
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ok I knew it was wrong, but I thought so

carmine briar
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is it der or die frau?

solar totem
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jingle bell to the rescue

slim meteor
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie ... will

rugged cedar
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dont forget the comma before "weil"

solar totem
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no idea

sturdy kelp
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will came behind es

slim meteor
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it moved?

runic pelican
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PUSH IT SOMEWHERE ELSE

slim meteor
#

to last

peak scaffold
#

Went to last?

slender nest
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Went to the very last place in the sentence

royal dagger
#

TIL about the comma

jagged owl
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie es will.

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?

ruby ocean
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BRONZE RULE: In a subordinate clause, the finite verb is the last element of the clause.

atomic python
#

wait what about the infinitive with the modal. Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie es haben will

peak scaffold
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BRONZE

jagged owl
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TRying to fix it is harder when you keep reacting to it it pushes up for me D:

quartz otter
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@ruby ocean Exception: Relative clauses with prepositions

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@ruby ocean But you put the preposition before the relative pronoun

sturdy kelp
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Subordinate clause?

solar totem
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finnaly

atomic python
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Nebensätze

ruby ocean
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The man gives the woman the book because she must have it.

runic pelican
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the subordinate clause, or dependent clause, is something with a subject and a verb that is not a whole sentence

dense fable
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie es haben muss.

misty creek
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still

slender nest
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch weil sie es haben muss

atomic python
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..., weil sie es haben muss

misty creek
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what is an appositive

carmine briar
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Der Mann gibts der frau das buch, weil sie es haben muss

solar totem
#

Der mann gibt der frau das buch weil sie es haben muss

slim meteor
#

Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie es muss

misty creek
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gibts

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🤢

runic pelican
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie es haben muss

jagged owl
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie muss es haben.

sturdy kelp
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Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch, weil sie muss es haben

peak scaffold
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Pferd people put commas in weird places 😦

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jagged owl
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@ruby ocean Could you to the little thing I keep losing your message Dx

misty creek
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Ich frage mich doch ab, wieso es möglich ist für diese Leute, zu der deutsche Sprache erschnitzelieren.

jagged owl
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Oh FeelsBadMan

royal dagger
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abfragen? @misty creek

misty creek
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ja

atomic python
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commas seperate clauses, so it usually goes before conjunctions or demonstrative pronouns

solar totem
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so what is this rule ?

peak scaffold
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Danke kappa

solar totem
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wood rule

royal dagger
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erschnitzelieren?

misty creek
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''to fuck up''

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my own creative invention

jagged owl
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I dont understand why the last half is like that FeelsBadMan

misty creek
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i didnt know the word for it

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so i just did that

runic pelican
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@misty creek an insert basically that can come out. My cousin, a nice girl, is on vacation. a nice girl is the appositive

misty creek
dapper parrot
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Tala is ein Meme wie Dreng, Korea. mmlol

royal dagger
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kk

jagged owl
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weil sie es haben muss then?

royal dagger
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dreng = ari, oder?

carmine briar
misty creek
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Dreng ist eine Meme?

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lül

dapper parrot
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Ja, Korea

sturdy kelp
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the finite verb. How about the infinite verb

misty creek
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Dreng ist ein Ami, ja

ruby ocean
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Because the woman must have the book, the man gives it to her.

jagged owl
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infinitive verb?

atomic python
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wait wouldn't it be .., der deutsche Sprache zu erschnitzelieren since "zu" goes next to verb

jagged owl
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What?

misty creek
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thanks jingle bell

dense fable
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Weil die Frau das Buch haben muss, gibt der Mann es ihr.

solar totem
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Weil der frau haben das buch muss,Der man gibt es ihr?

carmine briar
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Weil die Frau das buch, der Mann gibt es ihr

sturdy kelp
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Weil die Frau muss das Buch haben, gibt der Mann sie es.

runic pelican
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Weil die Frau das Buch haben muss, gibt ihr der Mann . (OH GEEZ RIP)

solar totem
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I love traps

oak ginkgo
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sie is the acc form i believe @solar totem

peak scaffold
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RIP

carmine briar
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does the sentence need haben or not?

solar totem
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but they are gay

slender nest
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Weil die Frau das Buch haben muss, der Mann gibt ihr es.

meager finch
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Weil die Frau haben das buch muss, Der man gibt es ihr

jagged owl
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Weil die Frau das Buch haben muss, der Mann gibt es ihr.

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idk

uncut vigil
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Weil die Fraue das buch haben muss , der man gibt ihr es

ruby ocean
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Weil die Frau das Buch haben muss, gibt der Mann es ihr.

misty creek
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wer, wessen, wem, wen, WEMST

solar totem
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oh nein

meager finch
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oh

jagged owl
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fick

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I was so close D:

runic pelican
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because the main clause is after the dependent clause

solar totem
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this is just fuck you man rule

runic pelican
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when that happens, the verb comes first

peak scaffold
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Because it's muss haben, main verb is muss?

slender nest
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why "gibt der Mann es ihr" not "gibt der Mann ihr es" because we said "Der Mann gibt der Frau das Buch"?

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ok

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go ahead 😛

royal dagger
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(Sly, you don't use 'fick' here. If you're not wanting to meme around, 'Scheiße' would be appropriate)

misty creek
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Bitte nicht ''fick'', sagst du doch ''Fick mich, ich bin jaa ein Schnitzel'', da es poetischer ist als der erste.

runic pelican
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because the main clause is second 😄

jagged owl
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Sorry

atomic python
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with pronouns the order is different I think

rough robin
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who's teaching? 👀

royal dagger
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np^^ i never heard 'fick' being used seriously xD

carmine briar
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pferd

wise narwhal
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when there are two pronouns than the first one is in Akkusativ

ruby ocean
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[subordinate clause], [finite verb] [subject] [accusative pronoun] [dative pronoun].

misty creek
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i just kinda focused upon aus bei mit von seit zu nach außer gegenüber

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that stuff

atomic python
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Bronze rule 2: verb always goes in the 2nd position

misty creek
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Bronze rule

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🤔

raw oyster
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Arrem hat Botanophobia

jagged owl
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i have no clue

raw oyster
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wow

peak scaffold
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Random

runic pelican
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what was the question

slim meteor
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beacuse weil?

misty creek
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weiß's nicht

slender nest
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conjuction magic

slim meteor
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I was gone for a bit

jagged owl
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subordinating conjunction?

grizzled fjord
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Conjugunction

peak scaffold
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If it blinks at me it'll be the last one

misty creek
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Conjugamation

slim meteor
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what's conjunction

misty creek
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it's a phrase

jagged owl
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because

grizzled fjord
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Weil

sturdy kelp
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Ok, I'm kinda lost now, new words I haven't learned in english yet so cya, thanks though 😄

ruby ocean
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bevor (before) dass (that) ob (whether) wenn (if, when)

misty creek
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hey question btw

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idk if there are more dutch people here but

runic pelican
jagged owl
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gosh

slender nest
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Doesn't "dass" keep the finite verb in its supposed place in the clause?

grizzled fjord
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Subordinating conjunctions always follow nouns i think

misty creek
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if yes, do you know what the biggest problems are that they come with, here?

runic pelican
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comma?

jagged owl
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What was the question again?

slim meteor
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the position of the verb?

quartz otter
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@runic pelican Do you have a link to where you found that?

dense fable
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Nee, weten we niet, @misty creek . Vertel is, jongen.

runic pelican
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no it was given to me.

jagged owl
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The position of the subordinating clause?

slim meteor
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there's a difference?

slender nest
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Tenses? grammar?

misty creek
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Hm

runic pelican
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the fact that the verb is at the end 😄

grizzled fjord
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Pronoun by itself

misty creek
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Ik vroeg er eigenlijk naar

jagged owl
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Ive never heard those in english ever

runic pelican
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oh!

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nice

misty creek
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Maar blijkbaar is er niemand die dat weet @dense fable

runic pelican
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tricky tricky

jagged owl
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Not even in school what

ruby ocean
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der, die, das, den

misty creek
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Dus dat is mij wel vreemd

dense fable
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Problemen? Waarmee, precies?

ruby ocean
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worum, wie, was, woher

misty creek
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Nouja, met de Duitse grammatica

runic pelican
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yeah that totally makes sense

slim meteor
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was bedeutet worum?

misty creek
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Uitspraak en spelling is meestal toch geen enkel probleem voor de Nederlandstaligen onder ons

ruby ocean
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For Subjects and Objects:

  1. Use the case endings, not the word order, to determine who is doing what to whom.

For Verbs:
1) GOLDEN RULE: In a main clause, the finite verb is the second element of the clause.
2) SILVER RULE: In a question or command clause, the finite verb is the first element of the clause.
3) BRONZE RULE: In a subordinate clause, the finite verb is the last element of the clause.
4) There can only be one finite verb in each of these clauses.
5) In a main or question/command clause, if the finite verb is an auxiliary verb, the modified original verb is the last element of the clause. In a subordinate clause, it is the second last element of the clause.

misty creek
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Grammatica des te meer..

slim meteor
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sigh

peak scaffold
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That was it? FeelsBadMan

slim meteor
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and thanks

jagged owl
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What are you saying @misty creek ?

misty creek
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Oh, I was speaking Dutch

meager finch
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So all clauses that start with those are subordinate clauses?

misty creek
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'tis my native language

jagged owl
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Oh

runic pelican
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can we talk about if we add adverbs

jagged owl
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i thought it was german

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:/

misty creek
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_>

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lel

dense fable
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Naamvallen, niet?

solar totem
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I couldnt understand at the end why it was der frau das buch haben muss

jagged owl
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I dont know languages and this is a german server so im gonna assume

misty creek
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was wondering about what the biggest problem was with German for Dutch speakers

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@dense fable Mwa, naamvallen zijn op zich niet zeer lastig

chrome coral
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Bitte

misty creek
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Of dat behoren ze niet te zijn

slim meteor
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t'was fun and informative

misty creek
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Het Nederlands heeft er ook vier in de persoonlijke voornaamwoorden

quartz otter
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@ruby ocean You promised GreyWind a spoiler I believe

peak scaffold
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From the next lesson^

solar totem
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you know "weil der frau das buch haben muss,..."

jagged owl
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Yea I didnt understand the haben muss really

quartz otter
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Why es was before ihr

misty creek
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De accusatief is dan wel echter alleen in de derde persoon enkelvoud dusja

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@jagged owl well, you could recognise dutch from german with some differences

slender nest
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I think he answerd, henbraus,
[subordinate clause], [finite verb] [subject] [accusative pronoun] [dative pronoun].

misty creek
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dutch has ''ik'', German ''ich''

jagged owl
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But my goal is to learn German not Dutch

misty creek
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low german has ''ik'' too, but no ij

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Yes, true, but I was talking with the other in our respective languages :p

jagged owl
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Im just gonna leave it

misty creek
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... regarding low german though, is there even anyone here that speaks it natively?

runic pelican
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please don't speak it to bell

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I'll cry

misty creek
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Bell speaks it?

jagged owl
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I just dont want to read dutch and think its german then get confused

misty creek
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lel

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i won't confuse you for now

quartz otter
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@jagged owl Just assume it's Dutch if you see a bunch of j's 😛

slim meteor
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when you learn enough german you can see the difference

misty creek
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ij*

jagged owl
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"dusja"

misty creek
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what langeweile says

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dusja = so, ja

peak scaffold
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I'm even more confused now FeelsBadMan

jagged owl
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I mean ive done German for 4 weeks so

slim meteor
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give it a few months

quartz otter
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Also Dutch has way more double vowels

runic pelican
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my eyes, wanna practice it?

dense fable
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Hoelang ben je al bezig met Duits, @misty creek ?

misty creek
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Dutch is easier for you if you're not familiar with cases, but German will be of more use

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In the world

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@quartz otter true

jagged owl
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I plan to learn Dutch too

misty creek
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we even have this stuff!

jagged owl
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But I want to learn German more

misty creek
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eeuw, ieuw, lauw

peak scaffold
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@runic pelican I'd love to, but I'm on phone I'll add you when my computer decides to work

misty creek
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etc

runic pelican
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sure

misty creek
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@dense fable sinds mn 12e? denk ik? maar na twee jaren in het middelbaar stopte ik, en later wilde ik weer aan mijn naamvallen werken

dapper parrot
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Can you keep conversations about Dutch out of this channel? Especially since there's a lesson going on.

misty creek
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sure mika

solar totem
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good lesson overall

ruby ocean
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accusative pronoun > dative pronoun > dative noun > accusative noun

solar totem
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Danke Herr Pferd

ruby ocean
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Ich weiß es, dass ich es bald werde erledigen müssen

runic pelican
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I know that i must take care of it soon...?

slender nest
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Is it dumping a dead body?

quartz otter
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Do you need "Ich weiß es" when you have the subordinate clause, Pferd?

jagged owl
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Cant you say

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Ich weiß, ...

quartz otter
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Mika?

peak scaffold
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Luna?

dapper parrot
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You don't need the "es" actually

jagged owl
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I read

solar totem
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es for the best

jagged owl
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Ich weiß, Ihr alle liebt Bücher über Dinosaurier.

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Last night

dapper parrot
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Nice example, Sly 😄

solar totem
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wat

ruby ocean
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anyone got some feedbacks?

misty creek
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''I know y'all love books about dinosaurs'' @solar totem

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that's what it says

jagged owl
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^

solar totem
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thanks

misty creek
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though Ihr 🤔

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ihr and Ihr 🤔

slender nest
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Ich weiß, Ihr alle liebt Bücher über Dinosaurier. or Ich weiß, ihr alle liebt Bücher über Dinosaurier.

misty creek
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they always fuck me up

jagged owl
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It was prior to reform or something

peak scaffold
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@ruby ocean will there be any major teaching in the following 10 minutes? I gotta call my ISP

quartz otter
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According to Conanized you can capitalize "ihr" and "du" to indicate a sort of intimity

solar totem
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ok I guess I am a bit dumb but what is an finite verb?

ruby ocean
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@peak scaffold no we done

quartz otter
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Like in a personal letter or something

peak scaffold
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@ruby ocean danke!

dapper parrot
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It's prior to the spelling reform of 1996

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And the capitalization of "du"/"ihr" is optional (when referring to the reader[s]).

runic pelican
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the verb you conjugate

solar totem
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Pferd ist bae

runic pelican
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it's tough to talk about in english which is terrible at conjugating things 😄

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3rd person singular

solar totem
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are there going to be more lessons ?

ruby ocean
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depends on how much people want it

solar totem
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1 for want 0 for none

quartz otter
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I hate talking, bell

runic pelican
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henbri 😠

peak scaffold
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Hey guys

runic pelican
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I'll share my deck with you

peak scaffold
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ISP says my area has connection trouble FeelsBadMan

runic pelican
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I have 780 words in my deck

jagged owl
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But what are they

solar totem
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pls share yingle bell

runic pelican
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JESUS

peak scaffold
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RIP HEADPHONES

jagged owl
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Rip headphone users

peak scaffold
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Es bedeutet etwas answers?

lost inlet
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anderes

peak scaffold
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Anderes**

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Autocorrect lul

solar totem
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what is the difference between etwa and etwas

dapper parrot
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etwas means something

runic pelican
wise narwhal
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etwa is like 'about' about an hour or something

runic pelican
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Totally thought you guys were leaving that at "Dank"

dapper parrot
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Dank!

peak scaffold
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Vielen dank lul

unkempt cedar
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Deck sounds too much like something else

ruby ocean
peak scaffold
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Korea don't troll us

runic pelican
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thank you pferd ❤

unkempt cedar
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it is der Abend

lost inlet
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yingle 🔔 (✿´ ‿`) bell ❤ 🔔

runic pelican
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what did I do?!?

peak scaffold
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Bell you've got no sound

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It's gut now

slender nest
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So Guten Abend is short for Haben Sie einen guten Abend?

peak scaffold
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DISCORD IS DOOMED

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I think that's better @jagged owl

slender nest
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Ich wünche Sie/dich einen guten Abend ?

fierce wren
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wünschen

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^^

quartz otter
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@ruby ocean Oh by the way, the exception I was talking about was a sentence like Der Mann, von dem er erzählt hat, [...]

peak scaffold
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Floops were you even here lul

solar totem
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There are 3 decks in anki

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is that normal?

fierce wren
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so wünsche in this case

lost inlet
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Ihnen/dir

unkempt cedar
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MOSKAU MOSKAU

fierce wren
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well I kinda wasn't

solar totem
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dschingis khan ftw

slender nest
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You almost flopsed my info

dapper parrot
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DAS IST DIE PERFEKTE WELLE, DAS IST DER PERFEKTE TAG

lost inlet
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my pulli smells musky

tranquil escarp
rough robin
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neunundneunzig Luftballons?

peak scaffold
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I CANT BRAIN

royal dagger
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DIE PERFEKTE WELLE

ruby ocean
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I guess it's an "exception" but not totally @quartz otter

dapper parrot
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YAAA, KOREA

ruby ocean
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see what you mean tho

true badger
runic pelican
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i have never heard this song

lost inlet
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which?

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the clown song? if so me neither

tranquil escarp
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wo simd die lustigem kerle vong funnigkeit her

runic pelican
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Ich habe nie dieses Lied gehört?

unkempt cedar
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Welches Lied?

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Oh nevermind

runic pelican
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das erstes?

dapper parrot
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erste

runic pelican
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dang.

royal dagger
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Hört euch alle Perfekte Welle an!

dapper parrot
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^

tranquil escarp
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Bell is turning into Flops. Stop ending all sentences with question marks. 😛

lost inlet
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perfekte welle = 🔪 👂

ruby ocean
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I like Flops' habit?

jagged owl
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Me too?

slender nest
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There shall only one Flops.

quartz otter
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mmlol 🦊 thinking_cat

royal dagger
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perfekte Welle = 👂🏻 🐛

rough robin
#

@ruby ocean how long was the lesson?

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Ohrwurm

lost inlet
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ear maggot

royal dagger
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Ohrwurm.

ruby ocean
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about 30 minutes, I didn't want to make it too long

slender nest
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like 30mins, Bergi

rough robin
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I see

ruby ocean
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clearly people wanted more

rough robin
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so now the channel is a meme

ruby ocean
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so can do it longer next time

ruby ocean
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once learning is over, memeing begins

unkempt cedar
#

Here is what I use for my deck

rough robin
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makes sense Pferd

rough robin
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:v

royal dagger
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DSCHING DSCHING DSCHINGIS KHAN

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HE LEUTE HO LEUTE HE LEUTE IMMER WEITER

unkempt cedar
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No, we aren't singing the national anthem

rough robin
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HON HON HON LEUTE?

lost inlet
unkempt cedar
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(it's a joke(

rough robin
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Weiß you didn't close any of those paranthesis kappa

dapper parrot
#

))

rough robin
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SYNTAX ERROR

unkempt cedar
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Still getting use to the German keyboard

dapper parrot
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Bremen?

quartz otter
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Germany? Hate it kappa

dapper parrot
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Yea, same kappa

tranquil escarp
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Me too.

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Go to Austria.

royal dagger
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Go to Südbaden.

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Best Baden.

dapper parrot
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Arrem, banned

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Yes, I miss Germany very much

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But then I look out of the window and oh well

tranquil escarp
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Wat is Baden. Is it the plural of Bad????

unkempt cedar
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Are people talking? I dont hear anything.

dapper parrot
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What is Bell saying :(

runic pelican
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D:

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I'm sorry D:

peak scaffold
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There are four people here?

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Someone said something like that

lost inlet
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brezl ❤

runic pelican
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viel i think

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is what they said

peak scaffold
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Oooh that makes more sense

unkempt cedar
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I cant hear anyone talking? Are there people talking?

dapper parrot
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Yes, Weißschatten

unkempt cedar
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whoops

peak scaffold
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They're singing songs

unkempt cedar
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There it goes

dapper parrot
#

CLIFFHANGER

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Bell: "Meine Lieblingsfarbe ist ..."

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Ah

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Violett

lost inlet
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liler is schonen farbi

quartz otter
#

Why is that word pronounced with a v 🤔

dapper parrot
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Because Latin or something

peak scaffold
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No

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It's hard to immerse languages after 12

unkempt cedar
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I heard the number depends on the person

peak scaffold
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You have to study after 12

slim meteor
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time or age?

peak scaffold
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Before that you can just hear and learn

unkempt cedar
#

age

peak scaffold
#

Age

runic pelican
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yeah this is actual science. Shouldn't stop us, though

unkempt cedar
#

I'm 14? Is it like a defined line, would it be nearly impossible for me to do immersion thearpy

peak scaffold
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Well it's not impossible

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But harder

unkempt cedar
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Harder

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okay thanks

peak scaffold
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Think about it like ummm

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Skill that fades with age

unkempt cedar
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no no I get it

runic pelican
#

your pronunciation is the hard thing

ruby ocean
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the older you get, the more your own language becomes a hindrance I think

runic pelican
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you won't sound native

ruby ocean
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because you learn things via the words rather than the sense of what something means

edgy sonnet
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🥖

unkempt cedar
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If you learn a second language young and keep adding every few years will that stop the process of you having a harder time learning?

runic pelican
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you suffer from the perceptual magnet effect, too

lost inlet
#

are people obsessed with farmers Wheataboos?

peak scaffold
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cat

primal pondBOT
unkempt cedar
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As learning German from 14 years old will I never really sound native?

ruby ocean
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you can become native at any age

jagged owl
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I wish they started teaching languages in america in the second grade

ruby ocean
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native sounding

runic pelican
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pronunciation is the problem.

jagged owl
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I bims Native mmlol

unkempt cedar
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Im trying to get at, will it be too late for me to correct it?

fierce wren
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wow, sly is ruined

dapper parrot
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Native or almost native sounding is possible but takes lot of, lol Sly 😄 , practice

fierce wren
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wow dis u do this

peak scaffold
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@unkempt cedar it's not really thaaaat big of a deal tbh

quartz otter
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I blame Ari, flappy

unkempt cedar
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I just had this picture someday I will sound like a native German and I'm having a hard time dealing with the fact that it's too late

quartz otter
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He's poisoning all the new guys mmlol

slim meteor
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there's no need to sound native...?

leaden verge
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there are people sounding native who started after 20 and there are natives that don't sound like natives

unkempt cedar
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Makes sense

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Its the same in English

lost inlet
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there are natives that don't sound like natives That's probably me in English

unkempt cedar
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me too

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thats how I know its true

runic pelican
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same fam

unkempt cedar
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I get asked a lot what my native language is

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its English

meager finch
#

really?

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that's rough

peak scaffold
#

2 months of course o.o

lost inlet
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I stumble over my words constantly 😦

unkempt cedar
#

Few months, Duolingo and Anki in free time

jagged owl
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4 weeks online

unkempt cedar
#

Yeah

runic pelican
chrome coral
#

2 years instead school, been in germany for 4 months now

runic pelican
#

lucky T_T

chrome coral
#

In*

peak scaffold
#

Waaaaas

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Hahahahah

lost inlet
#

wer's nicht lernen deutsch ist scheisse?

slim meteor
#

was he removed?

true badger
slim meteor
#

I was enjoying that

runic pelican
#

yesss please post all your favorite songs in german

ruby ocean
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what did he even say?

peak scaffold
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I heard scheiße

peak scaffold
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With my A1

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Brain

dapper parrot
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"Bla bla, ihr wollt Deutsch lernen, bla bla, ihr seid scheiße, bla bla"

ruby ocean
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what a mean man sadlol

unkempt cedar
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Wir sind scheiße, wahr

true badger
peak scaffold
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Dead internet connection FeelsBadMan

unkempt cedar
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See you in a fortnight is see you in two weeks

peak scaffold
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Hahahaha good one

ruby ocean
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or in a fort tonight

lost inlet
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i weigh 8.2 fortnights

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or stone

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or something

unkempt cedar
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mcFuc?

ruby ocean
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throw those stones away

lost inlet
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i just realized a stone is 14lbs and a fortnight is 14 days

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lbs = days?

ruby ocean
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coincidence?

unkempt cedar
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I think so

peak scaffold
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Oh my internet is back lol

unkempt cedar
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A stone doesn't weigh 14 pounds? Stone weighs what it wants

ruby ocean
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depends which stone

runic pelican
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....british stone...

lost inlet
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yingle bell yingle bell yingle all the way!!!

runic pelican
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O_O

lost inlet
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i love your new name

runic pelican
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it's the holidays!

fierce wren
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JINGLE BELL JINGLE BELL, ok I stop owo

unkempt cedar
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kling Glöckchen!

jagged owl
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FLOOPS

lost inlet
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owO merkt currywurst

fierce wren
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SLY

runic pelican
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fleps, come to voice

ruby ocean
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Sollte ich den nächsten Unterricht nur auf Deutsch machen?

unkempt cedar
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die Zeitung

runic pelican
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@ruby ocean only if you don't value bell's sanity

edgy sonnet
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francee

lost inlet
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wie weiss i wie ald i eigetlig bim?

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viliecht hat mi die mutter angelogen u gesagt i bim aelter als i im wirchligkeit bims?

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wan i bin geboren sie sagt i waers 1 jahr alt aber da war i immanoch nur 0 jahren alt gell?

ruby ocean
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du wurdest angelogen

edgy sonnet
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anyone going to Strasbourg?

ruby ocean
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nup

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me go zocken, hope you all had fun

rough robin
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I wasn't here for the class thingo

lost inlet
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viel spass beim zocken

rough robin
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sadly

ruby ocean
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no knowledge for you then

rough robin
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rip

lost inlet
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milk doesn't really need to be refrigerated anyway

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it just ripens

slim meteor
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eh?

lost inlet
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@chrome coral Have you ever had Rivella?

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milk soda

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i've never had it but i'm going to switzerladn in 3 weeks so ill get to try it

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it's like the swiss national drink I think

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and I thought since you were in bavaria it'd be close

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i can't wait

chrome coral
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Taffelappen

unkempt cedar
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Welche Stadt wohnst du?

slim meteor
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unterricht has turned into the voice-chat?

unkempt cedar
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Schüssel is bowl

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Schlüssel is key