#BRUTAL KATANA - out now on Steam

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hushed blade
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i cannot get over the border without bumping into it

lapis jasper
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im sorry, i beat it again...

hushed blade
lapis jasper
hushed blade
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"i doesn't matter, i still have 23 levels to beat.."

lapis jasper
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first 2 are more important

hushed blade
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lol

lapis jasper
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flicking like crazy

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still got the w tho

hushed blade
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so.. bunny-hoppy?

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thanks

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oh god i did it but fell

lapis jasper
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i think the first part doesnt really matter

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the main bit is the curb jump on the last climb

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i think thats what got me to first place

atomic walrus
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youre cracked

hushed blade
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12.997 the best i could get with this so far

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'll keep on trying

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new best nice

lapis jasper
hushed blade
lapis jasper
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im using whatever octane from apex is using as a stim

hushed blade
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alright enough drug- erm i mean games for today

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daily addiction report

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it's been only three days since the game released 😭

atomic walrus
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yesterday when I stopped playing I was shaking and sweating

hushed blade
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i am sweating rn

lapis jasper
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I NEED MOREE

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no fukin wayyy

hushed blade
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madlad

lapis jasper
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got it on vid too

hushed blade
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send it

lapis jasper
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kk wait just need to clip it

hushed blade
atomic walrus
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wow

lapis jasper
hushed blade
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every time i want to send a recording i need to:

  • find the recording
  • rename it to something reasonable instead of "<app name>-<full date>-<length>" or whatever
  • watch it to find out where to cut off
  • run an ffmpeg command to cut off
  • run an ffmpeg command to compress the video because otherwise discord will yell at me
  • wait 30s or more to finally send the clip
lapis jasper
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i just use microsoft clipchamp 😓

hushed blade
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doesn't it do everything in the cloud?

fallow wave
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i just use obs

lapis jasper
hushed blade
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and you didn't even double slice the last four heads

lapis jasper
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wait wrong video

hushed blade
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still useful

lapis jasper
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yeah but this one is so much better 🤤

chrome cave
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i dont even have to think about recording my games anymore

hushed blade
chrome cave
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literally just records in the background

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after you quit, you get to download the recording i think you can also edit it inside of Steam

hushed blade
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that's the same as nvidia's instant replay

hushed blade
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i'll look into it, thanks

lapis jasper
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wow the gameplay is better than i thought

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tight turn at the start

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would of been perfect if i got the double at the end

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aw man

chrome cave
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timer should slow down when you slow down ... my opinion

atomic walrus
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I dont think it should

hushed blade
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nope it adds depth to gameplay

chrome cave
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lowers the bar for those star ratings

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those star ratings are crazy low

atomic walrus
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you can just increase the star ratings

hushed blade
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the game isn't meant to be easy

atomic walrus
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which I think he intends to do anyway

lapis jasper
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i agree tho

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the bar for stars is rediculously high

chrome cave
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I think it'd be better to slow the timer than to increase the bar for the star rating

lapis jasper
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expecially on level 2

atomic walrus
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The later stages the star ratings seem fair, the earlier stages are where they are really tough

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im guessing he based them off his best times

lapis jasper
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maybe a 4 star rating would be better

chrome cave
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If you're moving slower in the game because time is moving slower, the timer should also slow down

hushed blade
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i think this means that the star ratings should be fixed, not the timer

autumn thorn
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may i suggest change logs page in main menu (i love lookin at those idk why)

atomic walrus
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also, add versions to leaderboard times? so you can see the all time best, but also the best in the current version (in case you are changing how some of the physics works)

lapis jasper
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thought is wasnt possible

fallow wave
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@fleet canopy i backroomed

lapis jasper
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i wonder if 12 is possible

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  1. there needs to be an indicator if you can kill an enemy
fallow wave
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finished the game :)

hushed blade
rain crescent
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how...

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where's the skipppp

fleet canopy
hushed blade
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oh my goodness

runic granite
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letsa go

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level 09

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Imma get a sub 16

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sub 15?

runic granite
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there!

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Can prolly get it down to 14.5-14.3 but gonna play another level now

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another one!

runic granite
gilded dome
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What sometimes confuses me is the distance of the katana, sometimes it cuts the head from quite far away and sometimes it does not.

runic granite
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Idk man

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I've also noticed that sometimes if you aim for a horizontal head, and there is a vertical head closer, or vice versa that sometimes your hit gets blocked as the wrong type on the closer one even tho you aimed on the back one

atomic walrus
fleet canopy
# gilded dome What sometimes confuses me is the distance of the katana, sometimes it cuts the ...

like bibizu said it's most likely due to how the camera FoV changes based on speed that causes the distance to feel inconsistent. I just double checked everything and saw that the raycast always has the same local y position even if the player is sliding which caused the raycast to be offset up by 0.5 units when sliding. This may be part of the problem? since where you aimed while sliding is not exactly where the damage box is at. I've fixed this now so it should feel a lot better in the new update

fleet canopy
runic granite
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Interesting

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Must've been too far away then

autumn thorn
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ok with the skips i did i think even like 18-17 time might be possible

runic granite
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NOOOOO

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my time!??!

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I will come back!

autumn thorn
runic granite
autumn thorn
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if i could i would post a trollface

runic granite
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damn, i got an 00:00:000

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@fleet canopy

hushed blade
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quote

if you select a new level exactly once a leaderboard has been downloaded then the old leaderboard entries don't get destroyed properly which is why you have 5 unitinitalized entries at the bottom
I'm working on fixing it!

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i also got this today haha

fleet canopy
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lol

analog monolith
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osakasob I still have yet to get 2 stars

autumn thorn
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i think new 02 tech dropped

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its hard to pull off tho

hushed blade
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we're all ears

autumn thorn
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and idk if it gives you any less time but kinda seems like it

hushed blade
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do you mean bouncing off the tree?

autumn thorn
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so u know the big jump

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in the middle of the level

hushed blade
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the pit?

autumn thorn
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yeah

hushed blade
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the first time or second?

autumn thorn
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first time

runic granite
autumn thorn
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so

runic granite
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no way that works

autumn thorn
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you jump on elevation , wall run the pillar and it makes the wall climb section shorter i think

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it kinda works

hushed blade
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it may work

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but is it worth the trouble

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big trouble

autumn thorn
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i sit worth the 0.01 seconds

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maybe

runic granite
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Do you also have to go left instead of climb at first head then to get thej setup on the wall?

lapis jasper
runic granite
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nvm

hushed blade
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i don't think this side movement is feasible

autumn thorn
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no i just jump off normally

lapis jasper
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YOU CAN DO THAT

autumn thorn
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YEAH

lapis jasper
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video

autumn thorn
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if you get enough speed i think you could skip the climb section

autumn thorn
runic granite
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it works...

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damn

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but only got a 775 tho

hushed blade
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do y'all mean something like this?

lapis jasper
runic granite
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yep...

lapis jasper
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i cant do it

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im bad

hushed blade
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i can't either

autumn thorn
runic granite
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but you have to jump on the flat part else you don't get enough height

autumn thorn
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wait im cutting the video with it

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gonna send it in a second

lapis jasper
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WHAT

hushed blade
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oh my fucking god

lapis jasper
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the fuck

autumn thorn
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im a genius

hushed blade
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you are

autumn thorn
lapis jasper
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thats like 0.5 save

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we can get to 12 bois

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or even 11.

autumn thorn
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i mess it up every time

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matt you gotta speedrun and i gotta come up with strats

hushed blade
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statyue skip is a little harder with this

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i pulled it off

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its amazing

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my hat's off zurek

fleet canopy
autumn thorn
autumn thorn
hushed blade
fleet canopy
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fr

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I can't pull it off 😢

hushed blade
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okay i pulled it off twice now but the statue skip is damn hard because you start at the left instead of middle-right

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so i fuck up

autumn thorn
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i love discovering new stuff and people freaking out about it

hushed blade
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nah i suck so bad that even with this i barely pull off my current record

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wait no i don't even reach it

autumn thorn
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the skip might just suck tho

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but in theory it shouldnt

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cuz you skip the wall climb and just do a vault

hushed blade
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well it did help me almost reach matt

autumn thorn
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and kinda keep the momentum

lapis jasper
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i can do it consitantly now, i just need to do all the other things without tripping

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bro its hard asf tho gddeadinside

atomic walrus
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more fun to be interesting

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Dude I reduced graphics so that I can get 40 FPS, double slashing changes everything oh my god its actually so much faster

hushed blade
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nah fuck it unless someone else pulls it off i ain't trying 💀

atomic walrus
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I want to try TASing this game but ive never TASed and dont know where to start

hushed blade
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i can't do the statue skip consistenly due to different character alignment

fallow wave
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i maxed out all the graphics settings and there was barely a difference from the defaults

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scam

hushed blade
fallow wave
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yay

hushed blade
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wait nvm

fallow wave
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wait no that sounds cursed

hushed blade
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i no longer have a shadow

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i swear i remember the character capsule having a circle shadow when i played on max settings

hushed blade
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im sowwy

runic granite
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so close...

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wait no

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theres a second ar

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r

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arhhgh

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i dind't see

hushed blade
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xd

runic granite
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f me lol

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HWO"?

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Jonathan can we get a camera mode to just fly around and look for cuts?

fleet canopy
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maybe, do you want to be able to enter through the level information UI? (before you have moved in a level)

runic granite
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I was thinking like trackmania where you hit a key and then enter free cam?

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while in level?

atomic walrus
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like a debug option

hushed blade
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may i propose something too

runic granite
fleet canopy
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ah okay, so would time stop or continue?

atomic walrus
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continue so you cant cheat, invalidate the run?

runic granite
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Is the player model real, or just a first person view?

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Yeah actually, it's proly better to do it through a menu to prevent edge case cheats and stuff?

fleet canopy
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I can just make time continue like normal, shouldn't really be any way to cheat since the player controller will be stuck in place while a camera moves around the level

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and the player is just a collider, no model except for hands and katana

runic granite
hushed blade
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in the level select menu, you can press <enter> like now to go straight to playing, but can also press <right> to enter a submenu where you can choose to "inspect" the level

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how about this?

fleet canopy
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yeah i definitely won't show the viewmodel lol

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that can be good

hushed blade
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i mean as long as it's not a ui nightmare

runic granite
fleet canopy
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but wouldn't you also want to be able to go directly from camera mode to playing the level

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without having to return to main menu

hushed blade
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probably

runic granite
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true....

hushed blade
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maybe a pause menu option? but that would be clunky

runic granite
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yeah actually ingame is prolly best if it has to feel like fluid?

hushed blade
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yeah

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actually yeah

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probably a hotkey inside pause menu?

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just that

atomic walrus
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make a debug sub menu where you can activate a lot of things

hushed blade
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without the menus

atomic walrus
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hitboxes would be cool to see too

fleet canopy
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a hotkey is probably the best? I don't want to add too much more to the pause menu though, it's quite cluttered

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I recently added leaderboards to it as well

atomic walrus
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i see

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Can you add an indicator when you successfully double slash? Like a small x2 that appears for half a second next to your cursor

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sometimes I cant tell if i double slashed or not

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until I reach the statue

fleet canopy
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good idea!

hushed blade
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i tell by sounds

atomic walrus
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I can hear the sounds, but sometimes I miss it

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nice to have a visual too

autumn thorn
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new achievements?

atomic walrus
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ooh

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I just got number one on 20 lets go

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by over a second

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woo hoo

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I can get sub 19 on 21 too I just have to not screw up the new route

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sub 20 is possible on 20 too

fleet canopy
runic granite
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Just got a sub 18 on 20

atomic walrus
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woah

atomic walrus
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sub 18??

runic granite
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yep!

runic granite
atomic walrus
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I know of two

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lemme try finding the last one

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@fleet canopy the consistent way to clip into the curve wall is climb onto the underside

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check the under collision

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Im guessing the last skip is the last wall bounce that there is some way to do better im not sure

runic granite
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What shortcuts do you know?

atomic walrus
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The first one, you should climb up the left wall and jump up

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the second one is just run up the curve onto the other one

runic granite
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this one?

atomic walrus
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I climb

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on the side facing me

runic granite
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What do you mean by that?

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oooh

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yeah ok

atomic walrus
runic granite
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and then i do this

atomic walrus
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me too

runic granite
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and then this

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and then there is a fourth one im trying to hit

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I can send it when i do

atomic walrus
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i guess not

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actually

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im still missing the enemies thats what I mess up the most lol

runic granite
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yeah me too

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It's hard to hit the enimies while trying to do weird shortcuts as well

atomic walrus
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how do you make that jump when you cut that corner? oh my god

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are you jumping off the palm tree pillar?

runic granite
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oh no

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I slide jump pf the ledge

atomic walrus
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oh you are on the curb

runic granite
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you don't need to

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If you are on the curb you can do a more direct line

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and then this

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final shortcut

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and the I also jump the first corner in the very start and the second corner but that's not really a shortcut

runic granite
# runic granite

Here you need to be on the curb else you can't jump far enough and hit the heads at the same time

atomic walrus
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how do you get on the curb?

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I got sub 19 not doing the last two skips

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you are over a second faster oh my god

runic granite
atomic walrus
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Oh i made the jump ok

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I see

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I just wasnt turning fast enough

runic granite
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You can make the jump, somewhat, however you also need to hit both heads which is the har part

atomic walrus
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no I meant before

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I havent even gotten to that part

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also I feel like im climbing too slowly on the double curve

runic granite
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like just head on it

atomic walrus
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man im so bad at this game grr

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im tilting im gonna take a break

runic granite
atomic walrus
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you took the number 1 from 21 too 😔

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I know like a second worth of timesaves from my PB I just cant executre

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@runic granite Im guessing im not gonna be able to beat you eventually even if I end up doing it, for 21 do you wanna know my pathing? im curious to see if you can beat 18.5

atomic walrus
atomic walrus
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its also possible to twice double slash the group of 4 while doing it, again, cant do it

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im guessing you know about this one cuz I dont think sub 20 is possible without it

runic granite
atomic walrus
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and then this one is pretty obvious too

runic granite
atomic walrus
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thats all I know

atomic walrus
runic granite
atomic walrus
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im not built for games like this I know it, I am much more of a thinker than a performer

fleet canopy
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testing out a targeting/"lock-on" system to show the player when they're in range to kill an enemy. any feedback is welcome! (sound is wip and you will of course be able to disable something like this if you don't like it)

atomic walrus
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I would make it less noticeable, I think making it fade in over time would be cool

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start it transparent, and have it full when over

hushed blade
atomic walrus
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like an X over the crosshairs when in range

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just a confirm that you can hit, i see it in a lot of different games

hushed blade
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with these hints it's clear that you "reach" the enemies but it's still unclear whether you will be able to "hit" them in the "situation" (position/camera direction) you are

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and the latter is substantially more useful, i think

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the visual part is very well done however

fleet canopy
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so the same effects but only on enemies that will be killed if you attack right now? and maybe replace the effect with an x instead like bibizu suggested?

hushed blade
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so the same effects but only on enemies that will be killed if you attack right now?
Indeed!

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and maybe replace the effect with an x instead like bibizu suggested?
Instead of the star-dot? I think that would make it more visible, yeah

atomic walrus
fleet canopy
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so a X around the flare circle?

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like the crosshair when you get a kill

atomic walrus
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honestly, maybe keep the this visual for only when you can kill them right now

hushed blade
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i thought that was the plan

atomic walrus
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I was describing something else earlier

atomic walrus
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I can only think of minecraft atm but, like in minecraft, your crosshair changes when you are hovering over an enemy that you can hit

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similar to the red x effect you already have, but before you actually hit

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although I think this visual is better if you had to pick

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I would rather know when I can double slash haha

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also, did the statue always have the vertical slice?

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or is that something you changed

hushed blade
fleet canopy
hushed blade
atomic walrus
hushed blade
atomic walrus
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no

fleet canopy
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not yet, trying to get this targeting system done first

hushed blade
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then how

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are you able

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to vslice statues

fleet canopy
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I've implemented it into the game and play the game through godot

hushed blade
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AAAAAAAAA

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god

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damn it

atomic walrus
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he is the dev lmfao

fleet canopy
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lol

hushed blade
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i thought bibizu could vslice statues

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not jonathan

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lmfao

atomic walrus
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no no I cant

fleet canopy
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aha

atomic walrus
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lol

hushed blade
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@fleet canopy also is slicing enemies w/o starting the timer fixed in the next update?

atomic walrus
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im guessing so, it seems like an easy fix

hushed blade
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well yeah just asking

fleet canopy
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yeah it's fixed

hushed blade
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actually shouldn't have

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nice thanks

runic granite
hushed blade
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yeah i agree it's useful as-is

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if two features could be combined it would be ideal

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but if i had to choose, i'd choose the "hittable" instead of "reachable"

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Brutal Katana: a cornercutting adventure

runic granite
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fr

fleet canopy
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took longer to implement than I thought but is this better?

hushed blade
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perfect

runic granite
atomic walrus
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yes, thats perfect

rain crescent
rain crescent
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The smallest yoink

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Lmfao

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WAWIT

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Tied ya

fleet canopy
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lol

hushed blade
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But some are more equal than others

hushed blade
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i love how you can tell how much skips have a person found by looking at their scores

gilded dome
runic granite
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hmmmm....

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What did I do yesterday?!?!?

hushed blade
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lmao

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you're doing one big skip at the start, another big skip around the statue and cutting corners overall?

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or is there something i've missed

runic granite
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idk man

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I do the 180 skip at the start

hushed blade
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hmm im not sure what i am doing can be called that way

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let me send a vid

runic granite
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There's also a curb skip at the 3rd level after the 180

hushed blade
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this is what i'm doing at the start, is this what you're talking about?

runic granite
# hushed blade

I slash the first head and then like do a jump up on the curb and then turn right and then land 180 degrees on the other curb

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so pretty much the same?

hushed blade
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yea

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mine may be a little easier to pull off though

runic granite
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At least it will be with the next update that makes it so that you can't hit heads without starting the timer

fleet canopy
sly coyote
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What types of games inspired you to make Brutal Katana? And what types of games do you like playing in general?

hushed blade
hushed blade
runic granite
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Figured it out

hushed blade
runic granite
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I was just "gitting gud" yesterday lol

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Close...

fleet canopy
sly coyote
sly coyote
fleet canopy
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there won't be that much story. I'm thinking of having an intro cutscene that gives some reasoning as to why you're killing these statues. The tutorial will probably be placed after this intro, with the environmental style of the story segments. Then there will be one or two cutscenes interspersed between the levels. And the last cutscenes will be before and after the boss fight/boss level.

hushed blade
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the protagonist hates greek

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end of the plot

fleet canopy
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lol

hushed blade
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this took me an hour

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this is so. damn. hard

hushed blade
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HOLY

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HOLY

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HOLY

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AND I COULD HAVE DONE EVEN BETTER BECAUSE I SLOWED DOWN ON THE LAST JUMP

lapis jasper
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still num 1 on the first level haha

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im doing a game jam so i cant compete with you 😓

chrome cave
hushed blade
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i'll try to bring more good news to you in the meantime gdevil

hushed blade
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@lapis jasper i brought you more good news

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(i have the footage if needed)

lapis jasper
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after im done gdevilgdevilgdevil

hushed blade
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i know lmao

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i will be beaten to death

lapis jasper
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😂

hushed blade
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for daring to overthrow the king

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i ain't beating you in 02 though

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it's too hard

lapis jasper
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you deffo can

hushed blade
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i can but it's hard and i, however it may seem, can not play 24/7

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(don't look at my steam stats)

lapis jasper
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🔫 play. the. game

hushed blade
rain crescent
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go aheaed, keep going for the level 1 time

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i'll sneak up on the later ones :)

fleet canopy
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lol

fleet canopy
chrome cave
fleet canopy
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ah okay, hopefully I'm able to make a shader like that 😅

chrome cave
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It's basically what bubbles do

fleet canopy
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also, I just quickly tested out the "kill counter" popup that bibizu suggested (imagine some nice sound playing when it pops up). Any opinions (basically should I keep it or not)?

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maybe the text should display "x2" instead of "DOUBLE KILL"?

hushed blade
rain crescent
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aw heck lol

runic granite
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lol

rain crescent
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i'm coing for u

runic granite
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OH No

rain crescent
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she will steal ur time >:o

analog monolith
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double kills that reduce time by the slightest margin but take an equally long time to line up making it pointless 🔥

hushed blade
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increasing mouse sensitivity may help

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i personally play on 1.6x

hushed blade
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in my current record on 07 i didn't double slice anything except the statue

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(even though i could have)

chrome cave
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then add a score so that it's not only times that you can fight on, but your score too 😈

fleet canopy
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or I can make each multi-kill give a small speed boost that stacks godmode

rain crescent
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yes

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finally my obsession with double kills is rewarded.

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why? because it's stylish. Jonathan if you give me the ability to flip with my mouse and unlock the pitch of the camera I will do that

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God do I love pointless flex

fleet canopy
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I'll add it as a setting

analog monolith
fleet canopy
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yeah, if you kill more than one enemy with an attack you get a small speed boost depending on how many were killed

analog monolith
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might be for later

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but am getting an idea for an incredibly high skill ceiling where at max speed you're just chopping heads like you're playing osu while trying to control an unweildly character

analog monolith
fleet canopy
analog monolith
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not part of a speedrun community unfortunately

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but .03s differences seem cool

fleet canopy
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an average diff of 2 speed would result in more like 0.5-1s

analog monolith
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osakasob fair fair

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imma try again soon, but i am a casual rn

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and as a casual, it's a fun game

hushed blade
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(i'm looking at you matt)

hushed blade
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When i say "flame up" i mean something like "turn into said color then fade away back to the default one"

fleet canopy
#

that could be really cool!

kindred jasper
#

Had the absolute honor of being an early playtester for this game

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Everything is so well made and polished

hushed blade
#

okay so i "managed" to do a completion with the wallrun skip and statue skip that is worthy of being a demo

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i suck too badly on this level to decide whether the skip is worth it

fleet canopy
#

that wall jump trick to skip the wall climbing portion must be worth it since the wall climbing takes like 2s

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really clean run btw

hushed blade
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not at all

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look at matt's runs

fleet canopy
#

much better than mine at least lol

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yeah he's cracked as well

hushed blade
#

matt is cracked
i am cocked
we are not the same

hushed blade
#

god damn it matt

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i have no idea how you have done that

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i did it almost exactly like you did in #1198303097592754206 message and even added wallrun skip on top but i still suck balls

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this is a nice number

rain crescent
rain crescent
#

man this level is just S P E E D level, solidly one of my favorites no i definitely didn't choke that on the turn right before the big slide

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:15 - if you give me that multikill speed boost.... (insert meme of vince mcmahon falling backwards in chair)

hushed blade
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....then everyone's times will go up

rain crescent
#

oh duh

hushed blade
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yuh uh

rain crescent
#

i just love going 2 the SPEED ZONE

hushed blade
#

xd

rain crescent
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like yes it would make everything faster

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i just thought damn what a moment for it right there youd be going so FAST

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i love fast

hushed blade
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i love smashing my skull too

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wait

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nvm

lapis jasper
#

aim for completely skipping the curb

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as that saves you the most time

runic granite
rain crescent
runic granite
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Trying to hide it?

rain crescent
#

what are you going to do about it eh

runic granite
#

Win

rain crescent
fallow wave
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@fleet canopy you should get in touch with the creator of beton brutal :)

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and apologize for stealing their game

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:(

hushed blade
#

guys

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i'm about to drop a crazy 06 skip

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i wasn't able to pull it off completely yet in real time, but i have verified on 0.25x that it is possible

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i simply missed the first head, and it is possible to kill the head downstairs after doing the last walljump

#

there is also an alternative route: walljump off the front side of the first left-hand-side column, then walljump off the big column that you will be facing after doing the first wallrun, then wallrun off the last column like on the video above. however i wasn't yet able to hit the head using this method even in 0.25x, and it also requires three (compared to one) fast rotations, which isn't easy

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as well as the easiest, but also least beneficial, skip: do the first walljump like on the video above and then just land on the curb of the next platform to do a fancy corner-cut

hushed blade
# hushed blade

from my loose estimations, this saves around a second of time compared to cornercutting by jumping onto the first curb and then climbing as normal

hushed blade
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i almost pulled it off IRT, i just was too slow to grab up

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so while hard, it definitely seems to be viable

hushed blade
hushed blade
fleet canopy
#

damn that's a crazy skip!!

hushed blade
# hushed blade

by the way if you missed the head downstairs you can still hit it through the floor! opaque walls ftw

hushed blade
hushed blade
#

fucking kill me if this completion is worse than matt's

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literally the only difference is that i used wallrun skip

hushed blade
#

another one 🚀

lapis jasper
lapis jasper
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👍

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really well done

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and try to do a sharper turn at the start

hushed blade
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At the "end end", i.e. the last platform with the end point?

lapis jasper
#

yes

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im pretty sure input lag is a thing

hushed blade
#

Why would walking even be faster 😭

hushed blade
lapis jasper
#

cannot confirm but i think going down makes you slower for like a some frames

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plus your fast enough anyways, you wont gain additional speed

hushed blade
#

alrighty

lapis jasper
#

also try and took there you want to go as much as possible

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keep turning to kill to a minimum

hushed blade
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did you mean "look where"?

lapis jasper
#

example

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when you kill the statue you stay on it for like 0.3 seconds before you turn

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you need to turn while killing it

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dont check and then turn just kill - turn

hushed blade
#

if i don't wait i can't hit it though

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i may need to do the skip later

#

.

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...

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i reproduced my score

hushed blade
#

fuck it i can't

atomic walrus
lapis jasper
#

cheat engine probs

#

what happends when you play the game offline, get a highscore and come online again

fleet canopy
#

your best times are also saved offline, so when you go online again and you got a new best time when offline then that time will be uploaded once you complete the level while being online. I will probably remove this functionality in the future to make cheating harder, so instead of uploading the saved time I directly upload the time you got when completing a level.

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this will unfortunately make it so that if you play offline and get some really good legitimate times then they won't ever be uploaded

lapis jasper
#

a demo mode like doom

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would be cool

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i mean in the future tho

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like recording all the inputs

hushed blade
fleet canopy
#

also, is this too "silly" for the game for an changelog/update prompt? it will only popup the first time you launch the game after an update or if you press the changelog button.

lapis jasper
fleet canopy
#

alright, nice!

lapis jasper
#

make sure to add a trumpet sound effect

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😂

fleet canopy
#

lol, we'll see

lapis jasper
#

i wish we had more weather types

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or even just a sunset

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rain would be cool

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(optional)

fleet canopy
#

like an option in the pause menu that you can change

lapis jasper
#

yes

fleet canopy
#

yeah, this would be implemented way later but could be really cool

lapis jasper
#

dynamic weather system

fleet canopy
#

no please lol

lapis jasper
#

true/false

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😂

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an enemy that shoots something is needed

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i think anyways

fleet canopy
#

I implemented an enemy like that much earlier in the project but it didn't fit with the fast paced movement

lapis jasper
#

whys that

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okay tbf i see that

atomic walrus
fleet canopy
# lapis jasper whys that

it maybe wasn't the best implementation of one but I had it so you could deflect the projectiles but since everything moves so quickly it becomes hard and annoying to deflect them and even dodging them

lapis jasper
#

i just had the funniest idea

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what if you can use your sword as a vault pole, where you can slash the ground and you can gain height 💀

fleet canopy
#

I had that before as well lol

lapis jasper
#

so like, jump -> slash the ground -> convert forward momentum to vertical

lapis jasper
fleet canopy
#

yeah but I couldn't figure out how to design good levels for it so it got scrapped as well

lapis jasper
#

thats fine, we getting jump pads tho?

fleet canopy
#

yep

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hopefully ziplines as well

lapis jasper
hushed blade
#

lol

chrome cave
#

As in, new, removed, changed

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oh and (!) for bug fixes?

hushed blade
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i'm not sure that will be intuitive. maybe these icons and labels right to them (in the same color)?

chrome cave
#

maybe (!) for critical bug fixes
and (✓) for normal bug fixes?

chrome cave
#

but with the icons

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So basically

hushed blade
#

i think categories present in the makeachangelog standard will suffice

chrome cave
#

WHAT'S NEW?
➕ New mechanics blabla bla
➖ Bad things removed
⚫ Changed some stupid thing

hushed blade
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(except breaking changes probably because it's barely related)

chrome cave
#

BUG FIXES
❗ Critical fix for crashing when you do some stupid thing
✔️ Fixed bug when you go to the backrooms or something

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makes the biggest issues the most noticeable

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so people are aware they're resolved

hushed blade
#

i personally still am not sold on the icons, but i agree it should definitely be organized as a list with headers like "bug fixes", "new features", etc.

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round number

rain crescent
#

what about time checkpoints btw

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if youve every played surf or defrag or bhop for example

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it doesent do anything but just show you a current split

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also, speed boost multikills could be done on maybe special new heads you introduce down the line so you can control when and where it happens better maybe

hushed blade
#

that may hinder creativity a little

rain crescent
#

why do you think that is?

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it hasn't been the experience in the other games i've seen with it

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(i don't doubt you i am just curious, it's also something i am consdering for slamfire)

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it's not measured from top time. it's measured from your pb typically

hushed blade
#

from what i understand, the "control" you propose will require the developer to think of possible double-slices when designing the level, in advance of any possibile tricks the players may find, which may limit the players in some cases if the developer unknowingly put a head of the wrong type in the wrong place

atomic walrus
#

the statues will be the splits

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Ill be honest, I feel like speed boost to double slicing wasn't even specifically needed, since double slicing already has a reward to it in that its faster

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it might be more interesting to have it be only in some cases or have speed boosts granted in some other way

rain crescent
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eh, it's just an idea. i don't need to have it or anything, i just like thinkin' about stuff

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i definitely mixed up the two ideas you were saying was a bit hundering and that makes a lot more sense

hushed blade
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perhaps i overdramatized the message

rain crescent
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i see where you are coming from but i do not see things as such an all or nothing thing. you'd be very surprised how often players will find something completely different even with things you consdier to be that way

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that said it's not my game! it's not that big of a deal lol

hushed blade
rain crescent
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yeah but there is a point to be said in there that i did not fully think of either so i do not believe you are totally wrong.

hushed blade
#

but there's some idea in that still

atomic walrus
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I dont think worrying about it too much is needed

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players will find ways to explore and exploit every detail you add no matter what, unless you try really hard otherwise

rain crescent
#

yeah that's exactly the thing

atomic walrus
#

Most of celeste's mechanics are level built, not character built, and yet the speedrunning and pathing in that game is still highly developed

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I would rather have a simple character and complex levels than the other way around

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that last bit is just my opinion, tho

rain crescent
#

it's a balance and very abstract concept though - a hard character with a high floor vs a character with a low floor high ceiling kinda thing

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hard thing to solve in any game for sure

lapis jasper
#

so in my opinion it give it that clear advantage to double slice

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as its gives visual feedback (speed lines)

fallow wave
hushed blade
#

poor beginners lmfao

#

what would they think looking at the leaderboards

hushed blade
#

@fleet canopy Is there any special way you're going to handle these "in range/hittable" indicators for enemies behind walls? Will the indicators appear as normal for such enemies?

fleet canopy
#

Enemies behind walls will not get any indicators displayed on them even if you can kill them through the wall (although I may change this in the future, but this is how it's implemented currently)

fleet canopy
fleet canopy
# chrome cave make it (+) (-) (o) icons instead

yeah maybe, I'm planning on having headers (Added, Removed, Fixed, etc) with a point list below each header describing the changes. I'll try adding some icons next to each list point and see if it looks good!

hushed blade
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Like with the downstairs head in the 06 wallrun skip

sly coyote
#

This game looks really good! I would definitely buy it when it releases
Also Steam says that Brutal Katana is similar to Titanfall 2 which already sold me on that one gdpleased

hushed blade
hushed blade
chrome cave
fleet canopy
#

never gddeadinside

hushed blade
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or something like that

fallow wave
hushed blade
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the model doesn't matter as much tbh

fallow wave
hushed blade
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well the primary use case (for me at least) would be analyzing routes and replicating them and improving on them

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although sure, a good route would look really cool, and even cooler with a proper model/animations

rain crescent
hushed blade
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i'll beat 'em!!!!

rain crescent
#

that's what i've come to expect half the time and in fact i'd rather get the hull than a display visual lol

chrome cave
hushed blade
#

did it

chrome cave
runic granite
hushed blade
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i am playing almost all the time i am at PC

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ever since the beta started

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it's just too good

#

i swear officer no drugs

fleet canopy
hushed blade
#

I SWEAR

fleet canopy
#

lol

gilded dome
#

Lol 50 hours?

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that's what I have in digimon world and I've been playing it for at least a month.

hushed blade
#

saul goodman save me

hushed blade
#

Is it just me or sometimes double killing enemies will do a "laser rifle shoot sound" instead of the usual killing sounds

fleet canopy
#

that happens when you kill two enemies in basically the same frame, the 2 killing sounds merge and create a weird laser like sound

hushed blade
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oh thank god i thought i was going crazy

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drugs no good

hushed blade
#

the game is laughing at me

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and now i am laughing at it

hushed blade
#

What is everyone's thoughts on an attempt counter? Would it be worth adding?

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This is half question to the players and half to Jonathan

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Just to clear up possible confusion

hushed blade
#

understandable, have a great day

fallow wave
#

discourages trying the level for long

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makes a big accomplishment like 3 stars feel less good

hushed blade
#

I would phrase that as "encourages to take breaks" but well, opinion is opinion

fleet canopy
#

I'm indifferent to it, could be something cool to have in a separate statistics menu or something

hushed blade
hushed blade
fallow wave
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:)

hushed blade
#

reminded me of that lego "nuh uh- yuh uh- nuh UH" meme and specifically

What i said is TRUE! (From a certain point of view :))

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xd

runic granite
hushed blade
#

that'd be even better than just showing previous best time

fleet canopy
#

that sounds good!

rain crescent
#

Yeah that's what i meant by the splits

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that's what they show in-game too

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good idea

hushed blade
#

I'm ready

fleet canopy
#

Is anyone able to test out a new update? I just released one to the testing branch and want to make sure that nothing breaks when moving from the old build to new build before pushing it to the default branch (it all works on my PC but want to make sure that something weird doesn't happen).

If you're interested then right click the game in your steam library and navigate to Properties>Betas>Private Betas and then type in the code canbebugged123. You will then be able to choose the testing branch in the Beta Participation dropdown.

IMPORTANT: before testing make sure to backup your save file in case it becomes overwritten (which it shouldn't). Press Win + R and type %AppData% then navigate to Godot/app_userdata/BrutalKatana/save/[YOUR STEAMID]/ and copy-paste the save.cfg to some other location on your PC.

hushed blade
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(copy settings.cfg too)

runic granite
#

I don't think I have much data to back up...

hushed blade
#

(or vice versa, my environment is probably fucked up by now)

runic granite
#

ah thank you

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Why is there two?

hushed blade
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

runic granite
#

Also when the game releases you might want to add some encryption to this so that you can't just change the best time on the levels, but you probably already have that planned @fleet canopy

fleet canopy
#

I forgot to update the steam autocloud directory which is why there is a capitalized directory as well

hushed blade
#

I was conditioned with overexcitement

#

Wait so setting sensitivity to 2.2x did NOTHING??

#

My world view is broken

fleet canopy
#

for some people it did not work, but for others it did

hushed blade
#

I'm not too sure but i think it would look better if it was aligned like this

#

Excuse me my photoshop skills

runic granite
#

Can you move the head on 13 so that it is in range of the first slash?

fleet canopy
#

do you mean to move the first head closer to starting position?

runic granite
#

yep

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If you start with a slash instead of moving, it's just a couple cm's out of your range

fleet canopy
#

alright I'll fix it!

runic granite
#

@hushed blade do you have a shortcut on 13?

hushed blade
#

found a bug

runic granite
#

:(

hushed blade
#

It's impossible to double-slice the statue

#

Typing this while still uploading the video

#

Surreal experience

hushed blade
#

Ah that

#

In short, curbjump like your life depends on it

runic granite
#

ah ok

hushed blade
#

It's possible to avoid curved walls altogether if you correctly time your jumps from curbs

#

Although i was only able to skip curved walls up until the platform after the long slide

#

But it's possible

fleet canopy
#

I'll fix it!

hushed blade
runic granite
hushed blade
#

too late i started uploading 😭

runic granite
# fleet canopy I'll fix it!

What about making the curb's hitbox curved on the inside so that you don't slide along it if you miss the jump slightly?

runic granite
hushed blade
fleet canopy
runic granite
#

It's an improvement i guess...

hushed blade
hushed blade
hushed blade
#

i think it's possible to go under 16

runic granite
#

That way you don't slide along it when you just hit a little too low

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sorta like coyote time but for ledges

fleet canopy
#

ah okay, that can be quite nice to have

fleet canopy
hushed blade
#

it's good

#

to be absolutely clear, i don't like it 100% because of the little asymmetry/inconsistency, but i barely have an idea on how to fix it, and even that fix i imagine would hardly be possible to do cleanly

#

and also i imagine most players wouldn't be bothered with this as much as i am

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that is not to say that you have done a poor job

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and i still like it much more than the original

fleet canopy
#

it will have to do for now, I will make sure to improve it in the future

hushed blade
#

i wonder what sound would slicing two heads in the same frame as their markers appear would make lmao

fleet canopy
#

a really messed up sound lol

#

I uploaded a small patch that fixes the double slicing bug, updated pause menu leaderboard and moved the first enemy in level 13

hushed blade
#

Does steam have delay? (No update in the launcher yet)

fleet canopy
#

you probably have to restart the steam client

hushed blade
#

No nevermind i exited the game second time and the update button showed up

fleet canopy
#

nice

hushed blade
fleet canopy
#

have you found any new bugs in the build or is everything working as expected?

hushed blade
#

oh well

runic granite
#

although the speedrunner above me might have something

hushed blade
hushed blade
fleet canopy
#

well If no bugs have been found then I'll push the test build onto the main branch!

hushed blade
#

nah the game MUST be HYSTERICALLY laughing at me

#

this is third time in two days

#

i was just going "wtf why doesn't it turn when i press q" and then i remembered i only have to press space now lol

fleet canopy
#

lol, its a bit weird in the beginning when you're used to pressing Q and Space. But after a while it is much nice to only have to press space imo

runic granite
hushed blade
#

*nah phoenix MUST be HYSTERICALLY laughing at me

runic granite
#

And for some reason I keep first place instead of splitting it?

#

We should just both get second place lol /j

hushed blade
#

steam leaderboards don't have the concept of splitting i think

#

i'll beat you anyway in a minute !!!

runic granite
#

Well, it can be fixed since they can parse it before displaying it

hushed blade
#

oh actually yeah

runic granite
#

But to be fair, most of my 1st place records were just randomly aqquired while trying to get 3 star on all the levels

hushed blade
#

you must have different standards for three stars

#

i literally had to do every corner skip imaginable for that score lol

runic granite
#

I just did them

#

Idk what to tell you

hushed blade
#

don't tell me anything

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

that was.. quick

runic granite
# hushed blade lol

I just want to inform you that lvl 11 was not one of the levels I just randomly got 1st place on

hushed blade
#

did you mean 09?

#

i'm currently trying 14

runic granite
#

No, just responded to the wrong message

#

oops

hushed blade
#

the start skip is harder with the fix but still viable

hushed blade
#

i can't remember more quotes

runic granite
#

You know after playing with the highlighting of heads, I actually find it quite distracting

hushed blade
#

i found "hittable" markers very useful though

hushed blade
runic granite
#

Yeah, just found out

runic granite
autumn thorn
#

i love reading changelogs

fleet canopy
#

nice, hope mine isn't too messy lol

autumn thorn
#

its clean so its nice to read through

#

also i launched the game to check why does slicing feel so good in your game to try to implement sword attacks in my game but all i can see on slicing effects is just fov change , animation and audio

#

like god damn seems like you dont need a lot of stuff to make a satisfying attacks

fleet canopy
#

yeah you don't need much to create satisfying fps melee combat

autumn thorn
#

also , are the songs that are in the game not copyrighted or how does that work

kindred jasper
#

Just launched the new update of brutal katana

#

loving the new indicator feature

fleet canopy
rain crescent
#

this might be just me but i feel the combination of changes this update made the game dramatically easier for slicing to the point that i'm killing things without even thinking or intending to

#

i guess i would phrase it as i feel like i literally don't even have to aim even a little bit anymore. i don't know if that's exactly what you want or not and i know this is likely a very not popular take but it's noticeable to me

#

i'll have to try more later w/o it to see if it's the othe rstuff too (doc appointment) but just my earlier glances this morning

fleet canopy
#

I may have forgotten to change back the damage hurtbox size to the old one while testing the targeting system 😅

#

that's why it's much easier, the hurtbox is quite a lot larger than it was before

rain crescent
#

okay

#

😌

#

it felt so fluid that i thought it was an intentional choice

fleet canopy
#

but the targeting system also makes it easier to time your attacks properly

hushed blade
#

wait so in the testing branch the hit "range" is bigger than normal?

#

is it fixed in "stable"?

fleet canopy
#

soon! will upload the new build in a few minutes

#

but the difference it made was smaller than I thought so I doubt you'll notice it

hushed blade
#

hm

#

i can hit pretty far and pretty wide

#

let me record

#

no idea if it's normal

fleet canopy
#

the range is the same but the size of the hitbox is quite a bit larger (due to testing). so right now you have 0.5 units more range than you're supposed to and 0.5 units more "width reach".

chrome cave
fleet canopy
#

I tried that but it looked kinda goofy and the music player overlaps with the leaderboard when changing songs

chrome cave
#

Ah

#

Hm, maybe just leave it as it was then

#

Actually to be fair

#

Hm

#

I think the issue is that there's so much dead space and it kind of feels awkward

#

or actually

hushed blade
#

Or perhaps that it just doesn't fit 🤔

chrome cave
#

I wonder if it's the gradient

#

Reverse the gradient

hushed blade
#

However i don't know where else to put it

chrome cave
#

I actually think that might be the issue

fleet canopy
#

it doesn't really fit since the titles have different font sizes and the buttons don't match the gradient entries

chrome cave
#

?

#

Oh you were replying to them 🥴

hushed blade
#

Will not look awkward

#

At least

fleet canopy
#

yep, that's a good idea!

chrome cave
#

oh, also I'd do something like a subheading for the global leaderboard if you've been thinking of adding a score value trolley

fleet canopy
#

do you mean something like a filter?

#

where you can choose what value to rank by

fleet canopy
#

so, now a new build is out that reverts the damage hitbox size to normal

hushed blade
#

Should the stable or testing branch be used by now?

fleet canopy
#

the default and testing branches are the same right now, so use the default branch

hushed blade
fleet canopy
#

yeah the feature is still WIP so occlusion hasn't been added yet

hushed blade
fleet canopy
#

seems like it lol

#

I haven't even thought about doing that

hushed blade
#

lol

hushed blade
fallow wave
# hushed blade bug

i posted that earlier but was ignored from the flood of speedrun time screenshots gddeadinside

hushed blade
#

my bad

#

i should stop playing now!

#

i honestly probably should

fleet canopy
#

lol, try to take a break from the game over the weekend

#

it might make you better at speedrunning

hushed blade