Project S-812

[unique hill]

I think I may be able to just modify godot's source code to make this triplanar mapping faster

3d materials are just shaders

if I can find what ever file that shader is in I can change it up

[unborn vale]

Go for it! Just remember to back up your stuff first!

[sturdy void]

speaking of backups i download the repo eery synday nethy

[unique hill]

ye 👍

[unique hill]

ill be remaking the screenshot thumbnail on this forum post with all new graphics soon

not today bc its my birthday so i wouldnt be available but soon

[wooden grail]

Thats nothing 👍 Yes, can be improved but for example Hunt: Showdown uses more like 7-8 GB of VRAM 😆

[unborn vale]

Yeah but the gtx 1650 only has 4 gigs of vram

[unique hill]

strange enough, triplanar is enabled yet the vram usage is still 600

maybe its due to some the project settings I tweaked in regards to textures

I'll have to write a triplanar shader using just one texture rather than 3 references

[fervent kite]

The art direction is amazing, well done!

[icy anchor]

@unique hill happy birthday

[unique hill]

thank you!

[iron shore]

@unique hill happy birthday

[unique hill]

ty !

[unborn vale]

I'm a bit late but happy birthday too!

[unique hill]

thank!

[unique hill]

bump to prevent from dying

[timid flume]

Happy belated birthday fam

[unique hill]

!

thank you

[brisk pelican]

Happy birthday!!

[unique hill]

! ty

bump to prevent from dying

[unique hill]

just noticed you can easily tell the exact date I created a repository for this game

[spark sparrow]

i can't

[wooden grail]

me neither

[idle olive]

It was a cold Tuesday early December of 2022, the beginning.

Followed by 3 months of tinkering in the project before remembering you completely forgot about the repo...

Then followed by getting distracted by other things for another three months...

Then finally getting that one stupid visual bug you've been stuck on since March finally fixed another month and a half later!

[unique hill]

this is mildly accurate

very accurate

[paper lagoon]

Loving the art!

[iron shore]

doesn't show for private repos i think?

[icy anchor]

Unless you enable it in profile settings

[unique hill]

it wouldnt show publicly

but it would show if I view my profile

I havent updated my github profile in years so I decided to do that today

[sturdy void]

i mean

the first commit was just over 4 months ago

[unique hill]

i ws supposed to create a repo

the same day

forgot abt it for 5 months

created on

forgot about it

then remembered

[sturdy void]

oh yeah i need ti make that repo for the jam game innit

[unique hill]

ye ya do

dont be spilling our secrets like that

now youve got them theorizing

smh my head

[sturdy void]

exactly

tactic

[iron shore]

i theorize

it's a jam game

[unique hill]

NOOOOOOOOOO

look what youve made occur, Kamino

[iron shore]

no worries

other people will not guess

i'm just really really smart like that

[sturdy void]

oh shit

[unique hill]

confidence is wild to say that

(often I have to specify jokes so this is a joke jsyk)

[iron shore]

just use a tone tag smh /j

[unique hill]

but thats against the purpose of a joke imo

[iron shore]

ok

ur fat

(often I have to specify jokes so this is a joke jsyk)

[unique hill]

no way wtf

[iron shore]

this image isn't work-related

mods ban this guy

[unique hill]

bump to prevent death

[sturdy void]

defib

[unique hill]

i wonder what this is used for

side note: im testing cyclops level builder as a means of faster level creation

[unique hill]

lighting angle plays a crucial role in how pretty a game looks

[sturdy void]

||dancing||

[iron shore]

softlocks

[unique hill]

oi i fixed that bug

I think

[unborn vale]

Climbing?

[unique hill]

dunno

[unique hill]

@icy anchor they re-added it!

[icy anchor]

I'm glad they did! I hope the day when i'll switch over Godot 4.x will be a nice one since, i think, engine itself will get the level of polishment the 3.x does have now

[unique hill]

really hope they get a chance to backport some of these things over to 3.x

or maybe make an option to switch between GDScript and GDShader 1.0 and 2.0 so that the old users will be able to check out all the new features it has

[icy anchor]

I have a strong feeling that 3.6. is going to be the last 3.x update ever, so i won't expect such huge, complicated changes to be added

[mellow zealot]

3.x to 4.x will probably always be a difficult upgrade

depending on the scale of the project of course

[icy anchor]

I tried once, and, yea, staying on 3.x yet. It will require a work on each module of the game separately, which is, luckily, can be done in my case, but that's a lot of work. My current project doesn't really need much of 4.x. stuff even though that would be great to have many of the features of this branch

[mellow zealot]

honestly the most difficult part is all the renamed methods and names

a bunch of engine singletons and properties and stuff got renamed

i feel that the upgrade is very much worth it, i cant imagine going back to 3.x

[icy anchor]

In my case i had a different kind of headache. Project converter got all these namings right, but there were still ~2% of code that wasn't just right will all these things and i had to fix it up manually. You know what kept me back? UI is just WRONG everywhere, something is wrong with certain parts of code that just don't work as expected, materials in my case are kinda glitchy and i still couldn't figure out why, and some scenes are just broken. So... Switching only when i'm done with current project, yep

[icy anchor]

Heh damn somewhat i can feel it

[mellow zealot]

especially with 4.2 and onward tilemaps

since 4.2 reimplemented tile rotations in tilemaps

the new way it works makes it so much easier to make individual tiles do specific things

[icy anchor]

It sounds like something i should've used for my location generator, but yeah

Honestly, can't wait the moment when i'll use 4.x branch for an actual project, i bet it's gonna boost it up in many ways, like better shader caching or, not to mention, more automated occlusion culling, or better lightmaps, or...

There is a lot of things that i love and that i want to get, but at the same time, i kinda have all of these things now even though in more obscure way

[unique hill]

if you have a majority of your project already done in 3.x then its best to stay on 3.x

when I was transferring the prototype of this game made on 3.x

to 4.x

everything broke

im 99% sure they renamed everything in the materials section

[icy anchor]

Oh, man, they did. They renamed "shader_parameter" to "shader_parameters" and god knows how much stuff i've got broken just because of that

[unique hill]

something as simple as the SCREEN_TEXTURE constant being converted into a hint can break so much

onready and export were changed to @onready and @export

and so many others

[unique hill]

DEPTH_TEXTURE was as well

its now uniform sampler2D SCREEN_TEXTURE : hint_screen_texture

[icy anchor]

Yep, been rewriting lots of shaders because of that, too. And... i just abandoned this whole thing after realizing that for my own project i need more powerful PC to get it running in Godot 4, not to say the amount of work to just convert it. Gotta keep working on the game itself rather than just one complex thing that doesn't benefit much

[unique hill]

wator

[unborn vale]

wa'or

[iron shore]

roblox water fr

[unique hill]

cap

[iron shore]

add the ui back please

[unique hill]

just go to player.tscn and toggle the hud canvas layer

actually wait

I have unpushed commits

let me do that for you at the smae time

[unique hill]

pushed to the repo, there u go

[wooden grail]

fr fr

[unique hill]

gameplay coming along nicely

will start work on an actual level to send screenshots here soon

[unique hill]

mainly due to extensive playtests

[iron shore]

(me)

[unique hill]

yes yo

you

with your chaotic playtesting style found 12 separate bugs in the same hour

most of which have been fixed by the way

you should pull the repo and see how it feels now

[iron shore]

I'm at school

[unique hill]

lightmaps work!

Although their shadows constantly flicker for some reason

[unique hill]

ill stick to voxelgi until that flickering bug is fixed

bc it is an engine bug as theres an open issue

[spark sparrow]

i'm sending a message here because there wasn't any messages here yet today

[unique hill]

ay thanks

[icy anchor]

Can you elaborate on this one? It's interesting to know, like, is it actually lightmaps are flickering or dynamic shadowmaps bugged out?

[unique hill]

Dynamic shadows were turned off, and lightmap flickered both in game and in editor

it would flicker any time the camera moved

and since project S has prodecural camera animations where it wobbles slightly

that means it flickered all the time

if you'd like I can re-bake it and send a video

[unique hill]

also fancynew pfp

[icy anchor]

Thanks ;)

[icy anchor]

No need to. Thanks for explanation, and it's interesting that rendering glitch happens... Damn, lightmaps are always so problematic in this engine .-.

[unique hill]

true

Im still going to send a video as I am back to experimenting with it

so might as well send a visualization

[icy anchor]

Well i'd love to see it then!

[unique hill]

https://imgur.com/a/XpUwcbs

player mesh hidden so its clearer to see the level of stupidity

[icy anchor]

Hmm, your shadows on lightmaps have quite a high resolution, are you sure it's not a shadowmap? I know it may be a dumb question, but i still can't understand how simple applying of texture on top of lit surfaces can cause an issue in areas that are lit with sun and not in shadowed areas

[unique hill]

its actually not that high resolution

the default is 16K

in this I have it set to 6K

[icy anchor]

That's interesting, anyway, i hope they get it fixed soon enough

[unique hill]

sob emoji

oh well

[unique hill]

bump to prevent death

wow a whole four days without bumping

saved

[icy anchor]

4.3. dev 1, yay

[humble blaze]

Thank god

4.3 is gonna be pretty great

[iron shore]

thank god

[iron shore]

i will make a patch that makes everything comic sans

[plush turtle]

GARRYS MOD

[icy anchor]

In Ultrakill

[plush turtle]

ultrakrill

[unique hill]

ay no problem man

just dont make it too similar

loving this

[wooden grail]

You're so worried about that 😂 IMO, if your game is actually good, you don't have to worry about other games looking similar because art styles are always copying each other and your game would simply be the better one of the two.

[iron shore]

oof that was brutal towards virtuavirtue

[wooden grail]

But it's the truth 🤔

[iron shore]

owww

[humble blaze]

All I see are two damn good looking games infront of me

[wooden grail]

Yep. Thats what I see too

[unique hill]

ah i dont know why I worry about it to be honest, you're completely right

[unique hill]

bump

screenshots coming soon, gameplay is about 90% finished so Im moving onto levels

buildin

[unique hill]

scrumptious

[icy anchor]

Looks lovely. How did you make this one?

[unique hill]

its all the same post processing as before! just with colours ever so slightly tinted

the vignette is a bit bluer and the lensflare now matches the sun, which in this case is yellow

[icy anchor]

Sorry, i meant the building texture, it looks interesting and has a seemingly proper normal map (aka looks as it would have had geometry on it)

[unique hill]

oh I misread and didnt see the reply tag

The building texture is a very simple texture, I used a normalmap generator online for the normal map

I just tweaked about settings in godot to make it look real

but one note is that all windows are set to Nearest filtering

[icy anchor]

By the way, interesting design choice of making vignette blue. I think that's the first time i see such a use-case and it does provide a neat result

[unique hill]

as the window textures are actually very low res textures, with flat simple colours

[unique hill]

thanks! I didn't quite like the black look of it as it darkened too much. I took inspiration from how pixel art looks in other games, where instead of using black, they use blue as shading, so I mimiced that style with the vignette

all global illumination is just a simple voxelgi with some tweaked settings (lightmaps still dont work :( )

love that discord just chops my sadface emoticon in half 💀

[icy anchor]

You made me think of where i could use blue shading of pixel art and somewhat now i remember The Escapist, the first one

[unique hill]

side note: this is just a prototype level, high chance ill end up changing bits or the entire thing

[unique hill]

hmm

these air conditioners (?) release some faint smoke as well

smoke? fog? idk its neat

[icy anchor]

That stuff always adds a lot to visuals as well as making them more dynamic

It's everywhere in first Mirror's Edge and damn that's what i would love to recreate on my own

[unique hill]

hell yeah

its also one of the only uses of displacement maps, i tend to refrain away from them but i use them for additional geometry for the air conditioners and solar panels in this case

[wooden grail]

Niiiceee idk why but it seems like you have gone back to the original graphics style that I liked so much 💪

[unique hill]

it must be the sunset's colour grading

really love it tbh

[wooden grail]

Yeah and the solar panels

I like this sorta dreamy renewable urban warm look

But I don't like the overused super strong glow everywhere

[unique hill]

yeah i could turn that down a bit tbh

[unique hill]

been experimenting with existing materials by changing its metallicness and specular a bit to make it look better

[unique hill]

changed up the concrete texture for rooftops

I think its nice

doesnt look as concretey (that isnt a word) as the previous one, probably more tile-like to be honest

[plush turtle]

🔥

[icy anchor]

As an english non-native i've invented several new words while thinking they were a part of english. Gotta be cautious of that shit

[icy anchor]

By the way like the looks of the rooftop tiles

[unique hill]

yee tiles

[unique hill]

always the words you least expect to actually exist are the ones that exist

sometimes

[icy anchor]

All my roofs gonna be tiles... actually at this point lots of my textures are line-y tiles

[icy anchor]

Been actively using english for a time and still confused of everything lol

[unique hill]

honestly, tiled textures are probably better for almost everything

[unique hill]

lol

[icy anchor]

I saw Mirror's Edge levels and i'm still replaying this whole game just to see how tile-y their all textures are and that is impressing me

I always felt like i should've avoided that and this game once again opened my eyes that i can exploit the shit out of this

[unique hill]

its really impressive what the devs do with limited hardware and software

it feels as if all AAA devs have unlimited everything now

i often wonder what a AAA game would look like today if the devs werent given unlimited hardware

would be fun

[icy anchor]

Limited hardware and exploration of new fields is what made these earlier times special for sure

[icy anchor]

Looking nice. By the way, now it kinda looks like Lethal Company

[unique hill]

lil bit, Im setting most of the textures to nearest filtering rather than mipmaps or smooth. I feel it gives the game a good look to it

also I made shadows a bit bluer

[icy anchor]

I feel like they have unlimited hardware but when it comes to time, it's getting strict. "You gotta make a new nice-looking game each year so we get profit" and you see how it goes

[unique hill]

most AAA games focus too much on graphics, they end up all looking the same tbh

i believe its called the Unreal Engine look

even if some arent made in UE

[unique hill]

trying to make everything use blue for shading and a lil yellow for bright

[icy anchor]

It's a way to sell the game. Even i remember my mom criticizing my game for having massive flaws in graphics of my game and... I'm not even sure

[icy anchor]

Lol honestly i didn't hear such namings but it sounds just right

[icy anchor]

Somewhat i remember "Boards of Canada - Everything you do is a balloon" with that kind of lighting and not sure why

That's one of my favorites from them btw

[humble blaze]

I love Boards as much as I love the looks of this game (quite alot)

[humble blaze]

I think people should appreciate whether or not a game's art direction looks good and works well over just how realistic things look. Realism is reaaaal samey once you've seen so many games try and pull it off

[icy anchor]

Agreed with that! The more i learnt about graphics, the more i understood how boring realism is. Not only the problem of similarity of existing projects (made by different studios), but also because of monotone, slow development process. So i just came to conclusion that i love the graphics i do as long as they don't fuck with my mind during development process, and even if it is monotone, it needs to be fast and have enough artistical control for diversity and for the sake of fooling around

[unique hill]

merry christmas guys, its going to be christmas soon (or already is depending on where you live)

🎄 🎄 🎄 🎄

[spark sparrow]

merry christmas guys, it be christmas (or is n o )

🎄🎄🎄🎄

[unique hill]

screenshot as I fall off the edge but it looks nice

[unique hill]

christms

[iron shore]

NETHER YOU SHOWED THE UI 😭

[plush turtle]

ah yes, the singular dot

the ui

[unique hill]

Dw abt it

[iron shore]

YOU GAVE AWAY ALL THE GAMEPLAY

aaa

[unique hill]

na

I know for a fact that somehow in some way ur going to break gravity the moment u test this whenever ur back from vacation 💀💀💀😭

[iron shore]

oh been there done that

forgot to send you the video link though

[unique hill]

oml no way

when

bro

[wooden grail]

HEHEHE NOW I CAN FINALLY STEAL HIS IDEA!!

[unique hill]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[wooden grail]

👨‍💻 HEHEHEHEHEHEHE ON MY WAY TO MAKE A BETTER GAME 😎 💀

[unique hill]

nooooooooooooooooo

dont let my 1 year of effort be in vain

[wooden grail]

1 YEAR? I CAN MAKE THAT IN 2 MONTHS

[unique hill]

only a year bc this is technically my first godot project

im sure someone who has more experience with the engine and has used it longer than I have would be able to make something similar to my game in a shorter period of time

[wooden grail]

Nah in all honesty: I got other stuff to work on. Haven't done much Godot in the last months. I helped a friend making a nice and modular character controller for his endeavours. But other than that, I am working on my own little engine. Currently facing the decision of porting everything from an OpenGL backend to Vulkan or a library that supports both 😦 The only reason for this is, that you can't really profile/ debug an OpenGL compute shader. Most programs for this only support Vulkan compute 😐

[unique hill]

though its always easier to make something using a reference than without

[wooden grail]

Yep that would be me i guess 😄 I got minimum like 10.000 hours working in Godot and would consider myself pretty advanced but yeah. Dont worry 😛

My own engine's call is stronger rn XD

[unique hill]

oof

[unique hill]

I probably havent clocked 300, though I dont track it as I dont use steam for godot

[wooden grail]

I once had the AMD Radeon driver tracking the time certain programs ran, but since I had to reinstall it once, it broke the counter

[iron shore]

we all do it

and then give up

[unique hill]

ay @iron shore

please send me that video of gravity being broken

[iron shore]

yo

uh

[unique hill]

i cannot and do not comprehend how it happens

[iron shore]

i don't have it

didn't upload

[unique hill]

i prob fixed it at some point then

[iron shore]

it was after your first hotfix with the falling death

[unique hill]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

so its probably fixed

[unique hill]

uh oh

[icy anchor]

The big brother is watching

[iron shore]

stop giving away stuff nether >:[

[gray spade]

securitycraft

[unique hill]

am not

[iron shore]

cap

[unique hill]

true

[icy anchor]

The more i look at it, the more i wish to make roof locations with modular vents and stuff

[unique hill]

pew pew on rooftops!

thats actually what I have btw, modular vents I can mix and match

[icy anchor]

You made me wonder how much models you have for that

It looks like a decent collection already

[unique hill]

its 5 base models, a straight one, turn up one, u turn up one, corner and exit

then I have another 5 or so instances with them mixed and matched for me already

that I can scatter about

or I can just put them there if I need to make custom ones

[icy anchor]

Have you tried making pipes like that yet? I've seen people doing that stuff and it was looking cool too

[unique hill]

I havent as yet, to be honest I dont want to make new models and textures (even though it takes max 10-20 minutes)

i'd probably make it later tbh

[icy anchor]

I understand! Honestly i have that feeling sometimes too, and... and now i'm making a damn car, never thought i'll ever make one for the project

@unique hill also when are you planning to disclose more info on that project publicly? I know you are having a lot of plans on summer break, but i'm just wondering what you'd like to do first before disclosing anything

[unique hill]

whenever the game starts to form more clearly, ill start to slowly disclose more information

im still figuring out many of the works, I started this thread to see how people would react to the graphics, never expected it to actually take off decently

but since then i'd say gameplay is almost done

the story is in the works and the environments are being thought out

Im aiming for summer 2024 for a demo or the release of the first chapter, though I dont know how likely or possible that actually is

I am working on getting more members to the team actually

to help out on this game + our other games

one of which was @iron shore

[unique hill]

id say whenever gameplay is complete, and a story is decently done ill start to disclose more stuff

specifically gameplay, since ik everyone is wodering and theorizing about that

[icy anchor]

That sounds great and answers my question really well! Waiting for details in future

[icy anchor]

Well, i'd love to tell what am i theorizing about. I feel like this is going to be a walking game like "Through The Fragmentation" or "Sunken Heads", not necessarily similar to them in gameplay but i have a strong feeling that you will have to walk a lot in there. There might be some quests, scripted moments and enterable interiors. And unique graphics with 2 variations of day time, yep. That's all i can tell from current information but i could've missed some things (animatronic-like robots for example?)

[unique hill]

thats for sure an assessment, especially the scripted moments part

i wont say if its accurate or not just to leave u in suspense but its definitely an assessment

[iron shore]

damn nether he made an assessment

[icy anchor]

i made an ass

[iron shore]

real

[unique hill]

real

[iron shore]

fake

[unique hill]

no way

[unique hill]

oh btw one of the major functions is broken in all test levels but will work in actual levels

jsyk

[iron shore]

which one

[unique hill]

check gc

[iron shore]

my man is it a bug

why tf would you break that lol

[unique hill]

it was being a dumbass

[iron shore]

i literally only test the test levels

[unique hill]

I

realize

it should be fine for north and south

idk abt east and west

[iron shore]

(sigh)

[unique hill]

like the X axis

but idk abt the z axis

[iron shore]

okay

[unique hill]

its such a weirdass way I had to code it and im still searching for ways to improve the wacky math I had to do

[iron shore]

fix up the main levels then and add actual stuff

[unique hill]

yes

its bc

godot for some

unknown

and ungodly reason

doesnt give the world normal

[iron shore]

can you round the tangent

[unique hill]

when you use raycast get_collision_normal

[unique hill]

wdym

[iron shore]

send out two raycasts, get the angle between the points, and round it

[unique hill]

huhhh

[iron shore]

idk how raycasts work

[unique hill]

go in gc

what

no no

theres no tangent or shit

I coded it at like 3 in the morning 2 months ago

check gc ill explain how it works

[iron shore]

wtf!

how

[unique hill]

it works in test levels...?

i just tested t

oh well

[icy anchor]

My test levels are broken for god knows how long, luckily nobody gives a fuck about them as they are... old, derelict and not being a part of the game whatsoever yeah

Ah wait i started to understand what kind of test levels you have

[icy anchor]

Take your normals and get out

Sorry i'm being rude

You can also take position and collider :)

Now you can get out of here

@unique hill how does the test level look like?

[unique hill]

ah its the grey box thingy that was in a few screenshots

lemme find an updated screenshot

in editor screenshot

as im developing a level rn and dont really want to switch over to the test level

the level im developing is not going to be the first level

in the game

just so everyone knows

[icy anchor]

Looks fancy for test level!

Damn now i want to send a screenshot of my very first test level of the game

[unique hill]

thats what I do! fancy thingies

[unique hill]

I may or may not have a screenshot from the early prototype of this game

im going to try to find it

didnt find it but found this early city prototype from a year ago

looking back at this, the city has changed drastically

this has it more like stalagmites and stalagtites

[icy anchor]

Damn i just entered the level and got a ton of screenshots... Gonna leave this one here

[icy anchor]

Holy shit, you changed it quite hard .-.

[unique hill]

thats a sick hdri background right there

[icy anchor]

Gonna send other ones in other very known place lol

[unique hill]

very

it was originally meant to be a layered city yk

[icy anchor]

gm_post_ussr skybox, i spent ~5 days rendering this one as far as i remember, but luckily i learnt different way of creating the skyboxes

[unique hill]

much more dystopian and less comic-like than it is now

cause it was separated into like, middle class, poor and rich people

with vertical levels

[unique hill]

oh thats custom rendered??

I didnt even notice! It looks just like real life

[icy anchor]

Yep! I don't even remember which program i used to render it, but it was really slow. Honestly now i kinda regret i spent so much time, but in the end it was worth it. This skybox had several iterations back then, but, as very first one, i decided to add it since i kinda love it

[icy anchor]

That's great! The old one is somewhat captivating too, and i'd say it is very chaotic and very unique as well, it looks like a nice desktop image

[unique hill]

thanks! still trying to see if I can maybe make a chaotic open-world rooftops similar to those

[unique hill]

always good to iterate, even if some things dont get used, you gain experience from it

[icy anchor]

That would be really great to have these!

[icy anchor]

Yeah... Damn i remember times when skybox itself had images of buildings built into it. As result it felt like there is absurdly huge buildings in the distance... Not sure if you may use it anywhere, but it sounds more suitable in your setting

[unique hill]

perhaps

Im not going for skyboxes

more of 3D backgrounds

so that theres more of a perspective change

similar to 3D skyboxes in source games, just actually big rather than being a small thing below the map

ive been testing out a new workflow recently

using the addon i believe you had sent in #1149772367682355330 or pinged me about it, cant remember

its CyclopsLevelBuilder

the release build of cyclops isnt quite good

but the source code is miles more updated than the release

and that version is much better, and is now my main way of creating levels

all recent screenshots with buildings use cyclops

[icy anchor]

Glad to know it is a handy tool for you!

[unique hill]

extremely useful

especially that material per face tool

[icy anchor]

Since Unity and my experience with SabreCSG and ProBuilder, i decided to avoid that kind of work in editor, but, damn, i hope it is making your life much better

[unique hill]

its much easier for me to use in-editor tools than blender

[icy anchor]

I perfectly understand that and, damn, i'm glad that i kinda helped you even though it was just a ping lol

[unique hill]

lol maybe its just a lesser experience with blender that I have

only been using it for 2 years or so but havent really done any complex projects to need the more advanced features

[icy anchor]

I remember my own times when i attempted to use Blender with a lesser experience for my levels of Escaper v1.0.. Shortly: Don't, if you want to make something decent with not much pain. BUT: After getting experience? I feel like in home

Probably mainly i love Blender just because i can literally walk in my levels with no need to launch Godot!... Alright that is way too simple reason, there are many of them and all of them fall under my very own subjective opinion

[unique hill]

oh thats interesting, what do you mean by walking in the levels without godot?

also random screenshot of a camera

[icy anchor]

Literally, as if you are using player controller. Of course it is missing lots of things, but you can have certain kind of collisions with the floor (can't tell that about walls)

[unique hill]

interesting

[unique hill]

By chance do you know a good asset manager addon? all the ones ive found are either 3.x or paid

[unique hill]

Similar to unreal engine's little panel at the bottom you can drag and drop your instances with

[icy anchor]

Remember that your Blender's "player controller" has a 2 meters height (just 2 units by Blender's Z axis), for some reason i'm sure it fits to your metrics

[unique hill]

huhhhh what?

since when was this a thing?!??

[icy anchor]

Sorry, i don't know any. I'm using 2.83 right now and, honestly, a lot of useful stuff regarding the game asset management is controlled by my own plugin. Ah, yea, also, about that, if you are planning to use Blender for your own game, you need to prepare yourself to make a plugin, because there is going to be moments you'd wish to automize, i bet

[icy anchor]

Been using it at 2.79, maybe it was a part of Blender for quite a long time

[icy anchor]

By the way, press "Tab" to activate gravity and collisions for your walking, that's the thing i love to use

[unique hill]

thats amazing

if I need to use blender for levels, ill be sure to check that out

[icy anchor]

Sure thing dude

I personally found it useful outside of game-level-making stuff

[icy anchor]

I love the paint

[unique hill]

ty! i find it quite nice

[unique hill]

trying a slightly different outline style

kinda like borderlands

[unique hill]

I think this looks very nice

im going to keep it like that

it does however do some wacky stuff here though

[unborn vale]

If I saw that "camera" I would shit my pants and run

[plush turtle]

this kinda looks like a scene from one of my dreams

but my dream was more blue-grayish

[unique hill]

exactly what I was going for

lol

[icy anchor]

I love red lights as you know

[unique hill]

yeee

[icy anchor]

By the way, that time of day is changing on it's own or you've been tweaking world env?

[unique hill]

been tweaking world env but at some point i will write a shader for it to be able to change on its own

[icy anchor]

Sounds amazing

[unique hill]

so that different times of day will give different challenges

[icy anchor]

I'm glad you tweak this thing in a believable way btw

[unique hill]

day being easiest

[unique hill]

ty!

ive spent a lot of time looking at references making sure ive gotten everything right enough

while still being able to put my own style onto it

[sturdy void]

bread

[unique hill]

pog

[humble blaze]

...dog

[unique hill]

pug

[humble blaze]

DOUG

[unique hill]

doug

[humble blaze]

doug...

[unique hill]

amog

[humble blaze]

us

[unique hill]

higher res shadows

technically its the same res, I just changed the split values

[humble blaze]

Oh man that looks clean

[sturdy void]

odd vent texture up close

[unique hill]

dw abt it

[unique hill]

did u get time to find the sound

or na

[unique hill]

ty

I also got the player body shadow to work

[sturdy void]

im gonna make it

ive told you this

just gonna walk around my phone while its recording a voice note then clean it up

easy

[unique hill]

I was watching netflix with my mom earlier so i prob didnt see it

[unique hill]

alr i guess

[sturdy void]

bro has a mom?

[unique hill]

what r u on abt

[sturdy void]

ur a pug

[unique hill]

you dont just spawn randomly like a mob do you?

[sturdy void]

i did

[unique hill]

this makes sense with how u act

lmao

[unique hill]

happy new years

[unborn vale]

You too!

[unique hill]

trees now do fancy LODs where it turns into a billboard when far away

up close

[iron shore]

nether i keep falling

[unique hill]

wdym

did u test the pull

*push sorry

[iron shore]

ñö7 yê7

[unique hill]

the fuck

[unique hill]

I did like 20 something commits

fixing my weirdass code

go in the groupchat

[iron shore]

okay

[tepid rapids]

oooh the colors on that tree

[iron shore]

playtesting

[unique hill]

💀😭

[unique hill]

very nice autumn leaves :D

[gray spade]

this is the most normal play test case

[unique hill]

💀

at some point, dont know what point but at some point it decided to do this

[unique hill]

christ

[iron shore]

fix your game

[unique hill]

Idk what I did bro

[unique hill]

also send me a video of you playtesting

[iron shore]

man

get in the vc

[unique hill]

lord have mercy (hes about to break gravity)

[iron shore]

load save is bugged

reproduction: swing and load your save

[unique hill]

oh yeah I know about that

forgot to put it on the todo list

i also know why that happens

I need to recode the entire saving system at some point

I coded it very stupidly

[iron shore]

also there are softlocks

and i lost my climbing ability

[unique hill]

ha I fixed it

[unique hill]

will need you to show me that

[humble blaze]

You gotta study your profiler and see what functions are hogging up CPU cycles

[unique hill]

I'm not quite sure how to do that

whenever I use the profiler, it just shows the basic functions like _process and _physics_process

it doesnt give any actual detail I can use

[humble blaze]

I’m at work right now so I cant verify if this is the exact steps but you should be able to see what functions are being called when enabling profiling in the visual profiler tab

You just have to scroll down. It’ll tell you how many times that function was called in that frame and how much time it took in milliseconds

In terms of optimization advice, use the visibilitynotifier node along with maybe a custom player radius system that enables and disables object processing based on distance. Thats how I optimized my own game from about 100 fps to 400 fps in object intense areas (mind you I run an older i5 on my machine)

[unique hill]

VisualProfiler only really gives rendering related things

[unique hill]

ooh okay

I also have an i5

[humble blaze]

Must be the other profiler tab then. Like I said I cant verify anything atm since I’m away from my computer

[unique hill]

I thought godot had a system in place already like that?

[humble blaze]

If worst comes to worst try looking for documentation about it

[humble blaze]

If it does I’m going to scream but iirc it doesnt offer any kind of optimizations like I described

[unique hill]

oh sorry I didn't see object processing

no objects really process anything besides the player and interactables

in this map there are barely any interactables

but i will definitely code an object processing thing

side note: @sturdy void is experiencing a severe issue that only happens on his machine when he runs the game

[humble blaze]

I truly wonder why your process time is so high then.. I’m wishing you luck on this. Just try tweaking things until you figure out the bottle neck

[unique hill]

oof, oh well! thanks for the info and help

[sturdy void]

fr the whole game is having a stronk for me

[humble blaze]

Might be a editor version issue, considering Godot changed its mesh formats in 4.2

[unique hill]

I got him to delete everything and reinstall, and even deleting .godot

both didnt do anything

[sturdy void]

could it be because im using the dev branch

ill try 4.2 stable

[unique hill]

bruh what

[sturdy void]

bruh i said that yesterday

[humble blaze]

Yes make sure you all are running the same version

[unique hill]

I thought you meant dev branch of 4.3 😭

[sturdy void]

no

why

[unique hill]

I dont know man

install 4.2 stable

[humble blaze]

I would not recommend using the dev or alpha releases of any Godot version in a production environment, even betas are pushing it

Stick 2 stable boys

[unique hill]

I agree with that but I still update this game to dev releases every so often

Im very eager for 4.3

as it brings faster loading times

and vertex shading

[humble blaze]

4.3 is gonna be amazing when it drops but who knows what they may change from now until then

[sturdy void]

im tempted to make a godot version manager so i dont have to manually download and store a different version every time theres an update

[humble blaze]

Praise the lord for this 100%

[humble blaze]

There is one out there, let me try and find it. Its not half bad

[iron shore]

project s is a godot crash any%

[humble blaze]

https://github.com/noidexe/godot-version-manager

[sturdy void]

oh shi tysm

[iron shore]

playtesting is fun because nether starts screaming every time i climb a wall

[unique hill]

!!!!!!!!

[unique hill]

its because youve broken gravity twice

[sturdy void]

nether's spaghetti code gets tangled whenever you dont use it in a way that nether has used it

[unique hill]

and im sure youre going for a third time

[humble blaze]

* taps on glass* hey man why are you so illogical

[unique hill]

😭

most of the bugs are due to the delay on my monitor

[iron shore]

man nether i'm gonna start fixing your code

[unique hill]

which doesnt give me precision to reproduce bugs

[sturdy void]

oh we forming a hcs suffix now?

bet

[unique hill]

please do but I gotta push first

im fixing something in pole.gd

and player.gd

[unique hill]

yeah sure why not

[iron shore]

okay

HiCcupS

[sturdy void]

whenever i see pole.gd i keep thinking ur turning it into a pole dancing game

[unique hill]

how????

[sturdy void]

BECAUSE ITS YOU

[iron shore]

real

[unique hill]

?????????????

you'd do that

not me

[iron shore]

oh i'm the wrong color

[unique hill]

closest there is to the HCS pink is crab role

[iron shore]

oops still the wrong color

there we go

[unique hill]

still waiting for those voicelines by the way

[sturdy void]

bich u aint got no voice lines

[unique hill]

the grunts for when he breaks his leg (exaggeration)

[sturdy void]

we aint even got a storyline

[unique hill]

true

but would you not yell whilst falling 30 feet

[iron shore]

um

i would yell after

[unique hill]

what

no its AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

[sturdy void]

not if im a robot

[iron shore]

no its hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

beep boop

[unique hill]

ah fair

[iron shore]

boop beep i am robot boop beep blop bang shazam

[sturdy void]

or like

a pig

or lobster

[iron shore]

do yall think pigs are sentient

[sturdy void]

or cat

[sturdy void]

octopi are

octopusses

[unique hill]

at what point does AI become sentient

[iron shore]

what about lobsters

[sturdy void]

octopodes

[sturdy void]

when it has neurons

[iron shore]

when the music starts playing in the intro scene

[unique hill]

it already does

[unique hill]

skull emoji

[iron shore]

skull and crossbones emoji

[unique hill]

sending a push now so that you can edit code while I try to fix whatever nonsense is causing this lag

[sturdy void]

literally just

[unique hill]

pushed @iron shore

[iron shore]

sorry godot is transparent

i will restart

[unique hill]

is ur linux aight

its having a seizure often

[sturdy void]

fedora user

its deserved

[iron shore]

only nerds use ides

[sturdy void]

that is an ide

[iron shore]

shut up

[unique hill]

careful what you say and show btw

[iron shore]

relax

[unique hill]

this is the godot discord server

[iron shore]

it's a debug thing

[unique hill]

ik but still

[iron shore]

you're such a paranoid dumpling

[unique hill]

dumpling

thats new

[sturdy void]

bich uve showed more than us

[iron shore]

ya

[unique hill]

going into the quote book

[sturdy void]

im gonna start sending every piece of music i make for s-812 here now

waddaya think of that mf

[unique hill]

u should

[iron shore]

darling, project s guy isn't a mountain climber

fix

[unique hill]

thats a great idea actually

[unique hill]

PLEASE

CAN HE STILL CLIMB????????????

[iron shore]

idk

i'm not testing because i don't like transparent godot

[unique hill]

simply raise the opacity

[iron shore]

good idea

[sturdy void]

thats transphobic

smh

[unique hill]

the game looks quite interesting without a world environment

[iron shore]

whats your frame rate

[unique hill]

idk

but im working on optimization so its up to 60 ish now

[unique hill]

for optimization, ive decided to remake the player model

which was originally 12K tris

It probably won't help at all but ive been needing to remake it

this is the like 7th model of this character 😭

idk why im like this

To save on time I'm keeping the anims

[iron shore]

man dont tell em theres a player model

they're sentient beings

they'll figure the game out

[unique hill]

ive said it like 5 times before??

[unique hill]

theres no proof

for all I know everyone could be AI

and this could be a simulation

[iron shore]

:0

[sturdy void]

the difference is ai is intelligent

everyone in the real world isnt

discord is where smart people reside for some reason

but then im here

[unique hill]

lol

[unique hill]

spending so much time optimizing the shit out of everything

Will make a screenshot system that sets the graphics to max settings for a fraction of a second, takes a screenshot, then reverts the graphics

[icy anchor]

My beloved stuff. Godot almost murdered my PC's RAM in attempt to save collision data

[unique hill]

guess how much frames I managed to squeeze out from default settings

[icy anchor]

30 more FPS?

[unique hill]

na

10

[icy anchor]

Oh

I remember turning off depth HDR in my game and it given me 40+ more FPS

[unique hill]

what??

whats depth HDR?

Depth Pre-pass?

[icy anchor]

But it started to look kinda Cruelty Squad-y

[icy anchor]

Not pre-pass, let me check Godot 4

[icy anchor]

I checked and i suppose they removed that option from 3D entirely, sad to know

This is how it looks at 3.x

[unique hill]

interesting

I want to be able to have high-end stylized graphics

without performance compromises

not compromises my bad used the wrong word

without negative performance impact *

it seems godot is against me heavily from doing that

[iron shore]

woah godot 3 just looks so old

[unique hill]

damn

[gray spade]

black theme probably adds to it

[unique hill]

it looks smooth ngl

[iron shore]

@unique hill i think i broke gravity again

help

[unique hill]

no shot

[iron shore]

i can't reproduce it

[unique hill]

wait ur not joking

wtf??

people are going to wonder if gravity is a puzzle or something element of the game with how many times you break it

[iron shore]

i stepped backwards at spawn, went back forwards into climb, climbed up while holding shift and i ended up in falling death while falling up and having the camera spin

[unique hill]

thats weird

[iron shore]

must've clipped into an air conditioner or something

oh also did i mention that time i clipped into a building

[unique hill]

god

ah btw this is the discord server

[iron shore]

oh crap

[unique hill]

u didnt say anything dw

[unique hill]

also how

[iron shore]

i slid into the corner of an aircon connected to it

[unique hill]

.-.

[iron shore]

it seemed to be split into two segments

[unique hill]

thats wild

I have a strange feeling ur going to end up leaking something

u should talk in teh groupchat

[iron shore]

oi can you tell me how to make an interactable? i got a funky lil thing i wanna do

[unique hill]

ooh alright

let me push first

pushed

so basically you drag and drop a new triggerbox

in the properties panel for it, set it to Interactable

then attach the node you want to carry out the function

then simply type the function name and any arguments

[iron shore]

okay

[iron shore]

o

do i have to link it to a collision shape

[unique hill]

no

[iron shore]

i'll just check your door code

[unique hill]

drag and drop triggerbox.tscn

[iron shore]

no?

okay

[unique hill]

or maybe I should make it a node so you can add it using the add node button

[unique hill]

@iron shore controls menu!

[icy anchor]

My beloved custom black/orange theme!

[icy anchor]

Try using it first man ;)

I see you guys having fun and also that trigger boxes function name/args thing looks interesting for sure

[unique hill]

sound is often overlooked in games

im going to try my best to do sound justice

such as reverb in indoor areas

or city ambience being obstructed when far away from ledges

[unique hill]

was wondering why my fov was randomly changing, decided to shake the mouse left and right and well

fixed but kinda funny lmao

[icy anchor]

I don't get what do you mean dude

[unique hill]

mouse movement increased fov for some reason

*decreased sorry

[iron shore]

@unique hill i broke gravity again

[unique hill]

no way

[iron shore]

yeah

[unique hill]

god dammit

oh also

do you have a vr headset

infact go in the groupchat rq @iron shore

[lost tulip]

idk what this is but its lookin good!!! 😍

[unique hill]

thanks!

[unique hill]

testing how a HDRI would look

[vast citrus]

[timid flume]

Looks like mirror's edge 👀

[unique hill]

Damn

oh well

im keeping it bc it looks really nice tbh

[timid flume]

Definitely, keep up the good work

[unique hill]

:D

[icy anchor]

What's the deal with gravity

[iron shore]

there's no deal with gravity

i just fixed everything

[unique hill]

dont worry illogical fixed it

[iron shore]

you gotta work on making your stuff black boxes

[unique hill]

yeah :(

im making maps rn though

well one singular map

[unique hill]

okay so why am I in third person?

[iron shore]

oops gotta fix the load save flag updates

[iron shore]

no idea

[unique hill]

and how do I exit it??

??????????

[iron shore]

i have absolutely no idea

where's the camera

[unique hill]

nvm dw

can you remove that

[iron shore]

remove what

[unique hill]

the camera thing you did

actually ill jsut temp disable it

[iron shore]

yeah

[vast citrus]

What's da gameplay?

[unique hill]

secret

[iron shore]

so basically you're a ||derp|| who does ||derpy|| things like ||yeet|| ||derps||

[icy anchor]

Man, you entered the cursed lands where you are not supposed to know anything. That's some kind of weird 1984. Welcome, welcome to Project S-812, you have chosen, or been chosen...

[vast citrus]

chosen for next weeks xbox raffle hopefully

[unique hill]

hehehhe

[unique hill]

youve been chosen out of pure luck (if you could call the events that happen lucky)

[iron shore]

nether is an expert at information hiding in some respects but definitely not others

[unique hill]

na its call planned leaking

[icy anchor]

Hey man, i made this one HDRI as the screenshot of your very first visual concept quite inspired me. I'd love to see how it may look in your game. I know you are not into HDRIs as i understand, but still that'd be fun to see

[unique hill]

yooooooooooooooooo thats epic my man

I love it

will try it out later!

Im not sure if it quite fits for what I have planned though, i like more 3d skyboxes but this is wonderful still!

[icy anchor]

I love making these HDRIs, so relaxing, just like music

[icy anchor]

That would be great to see it!

[unique hill]

just to be clear for legal reasons you entirely consent its use in the game for this few minutes to see how it looks

[icy anchor]

I agreed with that and i'm glad that you got the 3D skyboxes to work that well which might give you a lot of possibility to apply dynamic effects, weather, day/night things with ease

[icy anchor]

Alright. CC-0 license. Yeah you can sell it to your neighbors and i won't say a thing

[unique hill]

alright

[icy anchor]

Source of content: AmbientCG and PolyHaven, both distributing CC-0 content

[unique hill]

sorry I just like to be extra careful

[icy anchor]

I know, no worries dude

[unique hill]

downloading

thats fuckin beautiful

holy shit

sending screenshot

[icy anchor]

Woah, damn, i didn't expected it to have that kind of impact

[unique hill]

this is actually the kind of city im going for

was this made with blender?

[icy anchor]

It looks like revised first visual concept

[unique hill]

ive been having a hard time nailing the style I want for the game

I just cant make levels im happy with

and I dont really wanna use blender for map making

maybe for building models but not full level creation

and cyclops level editor is good but not really getting me that far

[icy anchor]

Basically, how it works... In the end, HDRI is just an image. So you can use image editor to import multiple HDRIs and tweak them up. I took a far-away city from one of the HDRIs but i think you can also take some night-time city images too, just be cautious of sizes as HDRIs... have quite a special logic in these terms

[unique hill]

ohh okay

[icy anchor]

Sorry Discord feeling bad

[icy anchor]

I sent that message ages ago wtf

[unique hill]

possessed

[icy anchor]

Kinda same btw. Never stopping to experiment with things because of that. Even now i'm doing more and more optimizations regarding usage of LocationProp to try making entire levels out of them

[unique hill]

I set myself a soft deadline for a in-house demo (meaning only studio members can play) for thursday but I cant seem to make any level im happy with

[icy anchor]

Game levels usually take quite a time to make them right. m_day1_1 has been made like a year ago, but it has had so many changes (both design and technical terms) and i still cannot leave it alone as it is always being a subject to solve as an issue. So... That being said, i'm definitely a wrong man to ask advices from in these terms lol

Btw i didn't mean that i worked on m_day1_1 for a year, nah, this game had like a whole playable linear campaign, but, yeah, it'll need quite a revision. For now just wanna be sure that game levels won't fuck me up in technical terms as they love to do

[unique hill]

I know but I dont know where to even begin to be honest

i have a specific vision but cant execute it quite well

[icy anchor]

I'd love to give you feedback, but, yeah... The only thing that i can say that many things changed for me as one of the level designers given me feedback. That guy been working on certain HL2 campaigns and had a good theoretical understanding of how to do this thing. His feedback was very handy to resolve many issues i had, but i'm trying to not really too much on it as i'm not about to make HL2 campaign

That being said, if you can talk to certain experienced level designer that has similar experience in your field, that might help you quite much

[icy anchor]

I highly recommend these both

[unique hill]

are there videos for these? I seem to focus and understand better with concise videos rather than slides

[icy anchor]

These were made by "The World of Level Design" guy and maybe he has some stuff like that, like one of the "corridor" vids

[icy anchor]

https://youtu.be/MaUt1p3PQvo?si=3UQnfrXMnitKhkQ7
This one can be handy for you

Yeah, it's UE4, but, he is still covering general concepts that may be recreated in other engines

[unique hill]

alrighty ty! will take a look

[iron shore]

where's thenetherpug evil incorporated

[icy anchor]

You can spitefully slap it on image and that'll work just fine!

[timid flume]

My man uses Gimp, very W

[unique hill]

ok so I have a "monitor"

I bought virtual desktop and am using that as a monitor 😭

[unique hill]

bump to prevent death

[unique hill]

writing da story

& by that I mean general ideas to follow as a guideline

because having a locked-in script sounds like a bad idea

also heres a funny commit for yall

[gray spade]

this is still more creative than mine commits

[icy anchor]

Isn't it how you are supposed to make them after all?

I mean... My commits is some kind of structured chaos but yeah i'm still pretty sure that it is one of the valid ways how to use it

[vast citrus]

peak commitment

[icy anchor]

Forever alone :)

[gray spade]

wow based sublime merge user

[icy anchor]

I used it because i couldn't use Github Desktop because it was Win7 but now it's Win11 and i'm still using it as i'm conservative... Yay Sublime Merge

[gray spade]

i don't think there is an "official" way to make commits (although there are some attempts to standardize them like conventional commits or emoji commits), but personally i don't have time to come up with names for each commit i make so i only keep master clean (using conventional commits + one commit=one thing)

and not even master sometimes, master branches of my private and some of the public-but-not-really repos are a mess too

[icy anchor]

emoji commits
BURN IT DOWN
Alright i'm probably too emotional over it

but personally i don't have time to come up with names for each commit
Honestly same, but i have a to-do list for all things i do and basically what i do is just copy-pasting the thing i did. Why am i doing that? That was helpful to revert changes that could somehow screw up something in the project and etc. Does it have any kind of use besides that? Nah, i don't think so. Commit IDs ftw

[gray spade]

i somehow manage to do everything i need from cli, and when i need a pretty diff i use vscode or github's PR diff

[gray spade]

totally agree with the first point

[gray spade]

as for the second, i don't even have a todo list huh

if i feel like i can forget something i open an issue on the appropriate repo (which i now realize can be interpreted as an advanced todo list)

[icy anchor]

CLI for the win!

[icy anchor]

It seems to be one! Either way, i guess that stuff is kinda personalized. In my case i just had moments of confusion when i lost track of things i wanted to do and, yeah, just having a little application to have as an external memory helped me

[unique hill]

my commits are either just 1 singular letter

me expressing my confusion

or the most detailed thing ever

[iron shore]

heres a funnier commit for yall

[unique hill]

💀

[sturdy void]

half nether's commits are just 'a'

or "stuff"

[iron shore]

don't forget "Update Player.gd"

[sturdy void]

yeah, either 'a', 'stuff' or the default github commit message

[unborn vale]

Those are the best commit names ngl

[sturdy void]

mine are always either 'egg' or a description of the actual function of the code

[unique hill]

I just spent 10 minutes trying to figure out where the hud and player body went

then I noticed the player visibility was set to false 😭

[iron shore]

L?

[unique hill]

💀

[iron shore]

yo nether get in vc

[iron shore]

i found bug :D

[unique hill]

Jesus christ

im fixing the refactoringgggggggg

give me moment!

[iron shore]

nah

get in vc

right now

!!!

[unique hill]

Yk what

I might use hdri backgrounds with buildings in them

[unique hill]

im doing away with cyclops level builder

was nice testing around with it but it doesnt really fit our needs

Ill go back to being a normal person using csgnodes for prototyping and static meshes

[timid flume]

That's honestly what I use 👀
Although it would still be neat if they made something like probuilder for Godot.

[unique hill]

true

I mainly just didnt want to model anything, but after modelling it, it's safe to say that it looks much better

I have illogical fixing any random bugs so that I can focus purely on map making for now

[timid flume]

Offtopic, from what I looked at, you seem to be fiddling with optimizing your game too.
What are your computer specs?

[unique hill]

a low-end (yet expensive) gaming laptop

I'll get you the full detailed specs in 5 minutes but heres what I can remember

8GB of ram
GTX 1650, 4GB VRAM
Intel i5 9300H CPU at i believe 2.5Ghz

a 120gb SSD and a 980GB HDD

[timid flume]

I see, fair enough!

[unique hill]

I wont lie, its MUCH better than what I had before

I had a 4GB samsung with a Pentinum CPU and no gpu

I had gotten this gaming laptop in 2021

[timid flume]

I was testing my project on a crusty old laptop with 2 gigs of VRAM. Ran at like a terrible 30 frames 🤣 .

I was definitely disappointed.

[timid flume]

Yeah I know how you feel fam 🫡

[unique hill]

though I did not expect i'd need to render large scenes and make video games

all past me did was play minecraft with shaders 💀

[unique hill]

Oof

same but with a 4GB ram laptop

ran 8 frames per second

im sure it runs much better now

[timid flume]

As long as you're running a solid 60, it's totally fine, the specs you have there is quite average.

So it should probably run fine for the average PC.

I'm trying to aim for the 1080TI 4GB VRAM guys.

[unique hill]

running a solid 70 after HEAVY optimization

and I mean heavy

[timid flume]

Most PCs don't have a CPU bottle neck. It's mostly the GPU, rendering costs a lot of frames on Godot 4's 3D.

[unique hill]

though I think AMD FSR 2.0 is contributing heavily

[timid flume]

I have a 3060 so it's always booming in frames.

It's pretty hard to test.

[unique hill]

Oof

if you'd like I can benchmark

[timid flume]

Yeah that definitely works.

[timid flume]

Yeah definitely some time soon.
I'm close to wrapping this open source project up.

[unique hill]

alrighty

[timid flume]

Cheers fam, keep up the good work as usual 🍺

[unique hill]

ay thanks! you too!

ah quick question