Project S-812 | Godot Café | Page 2

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 6:30 PM

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what if you do the profiling again but sort by gpu?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:30 PM

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unborn vale what if you do the profiling again but sort by gpu?

wdym

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:30 PM

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I used to have utter respect for Unity. Until this.

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:30 PM

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icy anchor I used to have utter respect for Unity. Until this.

same

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:31 PM

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unique hill wdym

There is sorting by CPU by default

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Here it is sorted by cpu what if you sort by gpu, maybe you can see somethig new?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:31 PM

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I wouldve chosen unity had I not been too lazy to learn C#

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:31 PM

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unborn vale Here it is sorted by cpu what if you sort by gpu, maybe you can see somethig new...

possibly

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Ill have to redo it to find out

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 6:31 PM

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any language (even brainfuck) > c#

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:31 PM

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unborn vale Here it is sorted by cpu what if you sort by gpu, maybe you can see somethig new...

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:31 PM

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unborn vale any language (even brainfuck) > c#

one of my texture artists

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knows brainfuck

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and toki pona

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all that

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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fr?

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naaahhhh

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lol

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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but they dont code

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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unique hill I wouldve chosen unity had I not been too lazy to learn C#

I used to work with like 6 programming languages, C# is one of them, and i still stick with Godot. Learning new things isn't the issue

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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except scraatch

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they use scratch

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as an art software

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deadass

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and its actually good art they produce bro

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its insane

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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scratch....

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Scratch

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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unborn vale any language (even brainfuck) > c#

I still love it tho

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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the kids learning website

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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If it works it works

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:32 PM

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I'd show you but id reveal everything about my game

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:33 PM

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After attempt to make game engine on C++ and OpenGL, i'm fulfilled with love to everything

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:33 PM

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bottom left

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that logo?

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entirely made by him

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in scratch

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I just touched it up slightly for use in godot

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:33 PM

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icy anchor After attempt to make game engine on C++ and OpenGL, i'm fulfilled with love to ...

I dare not attempt what u just said

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:33 PM

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unique hill in scratch

Sounds great

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:33 PM

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thats bold

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:33 PM

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unique hill I dare not attempt what u just said

I still have sources available on my GitHub

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:33 PM

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to make an engine

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:33 PM

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That was my introduction to game-dev

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I learnt a lot

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Linear math is the main thing i'm really thankful for

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:34 PM

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the organized profilerinfo

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is the same as the print info

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:34 PM

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unique hill is the same as the print info

Screenshot?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:35 PM

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abt the same

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the amount of instanced scenes on the left 💀

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:35 PM

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That's bottom, what's up on the top with GPU sorting

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:36 PM

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unique hill the amount of instanced scenes on the left 💀

We all pick our own poison and get disappointed in it at certain point of time

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:36 PM

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unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 6:36 PM

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icy anchor We all pick our own poison and get disappointed in it at certain point of time

debug_physics_hell...

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:36 PM

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unborn vale *debug_physics_hell...*

It is literally what it is said

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:36 PM

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icy anchor We all pick our own poison and get disappointed in it at certain point of time

lmao

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wtf are those nodes?

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ive never seen those before

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:37 PM

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unique hill wtf are those nodes?

I was like Bender from Futurama

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:37 PM

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custom classes?

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or sum

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:37 PM

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"I will make my own nodes, with blackjack and logic"

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:37 PM

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I dont use classes bc I dont know much abt em

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:37 PM

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unique hill custom classes?

Yep

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:37 PM

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max class experience I have is with java

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java and I have a love hate relationship

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:37 PM

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unique hill

Hmm wait why does it...

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:37 PM

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I dislike the boilerplate

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 6:37 PM

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classes in godot are cool

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It's like an autoload but as an instance

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:38 PM

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ohhhh

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editable in the scene tree

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rather than remote

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:38 PM

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I have really weird OOP in my project

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C with classes

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:38 PM

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unique hill

Are there any things that use the right column more than left one?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:38 PM

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id assume this

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:38 PM

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Yea, but more specific ones?

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I can't believe it is just spitting facts like "ur scene is shit it is rendering too slow"

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I hope for more info

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If it doesn't have anything, i can tell that we are in that torturing hall for a longer time

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:39 PM

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icy anchor I can't believe it is just spitting facts like "ur scene is shit it is rendering...

LMFAO trueee

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Ive never seen a debugger do that before

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Lord have mercy

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this is for one viewport

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in my game I have mirrors

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its not in this scene

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but it will be in others

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which means two cameras

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double the lag

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:40 PM

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Also, other scenes have issues like that?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:40 PM

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honestly

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this is the only actual level

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i have in the game

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others are test scenes

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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Alright i just wanted to say

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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so none are fancy except this one

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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I have a really weird thing

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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they just have

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high quality dev textures

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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m_day1_1 in my game is the first military operation the player will participate in

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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And it is so damn fucked up dude

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It is the heaviest level

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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unique hill

Lmao i love it

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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icy anchor Lmao i love it

ty

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its super high quality isnt it

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I made it B)

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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icy anchor It is the heaviest level

And i still trouble of optimizing it

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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icy anchor m_day1_1 in my game is the first military operation the player will participate ...

this level

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:42 PM

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unique hill I made it B)

Lol yea

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:42 PM

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fitting into teh storyline of my game

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is the 3rd map

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each map

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is

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MASSIVE

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bro

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I have such an eye for details in video games

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one of the maps is planned to be an interior

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I already have it blocked out in my mind

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:42 PM

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I have m_day0_* levels, which is making the m_day1_1 not even first level in game

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:42 PM

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and if its lagging with this exterior scene

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lord have mercy for the 2nd map

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:42 PM

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unique hill MASSIVE

oh

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:42 PM

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one of the biggest maps

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in the game

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is going to be this map

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and the 2nd map

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1st one cant compare

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i cant show u the first one bc it looks like shit honestly

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so I gotta redo it n stuff

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:43 PM

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unique hill i cant show u the first one bc it looks like shit honestly

I have that feeling for all levels in my game

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:43 PM

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icy anchor *oh*

Im planning to do some openworld activites at some point

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so a few levels

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would juts be

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ginormous

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& others are smaller

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and more linear

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:44 PM

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My locations are mainly small enough

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But m_day2_poor_zone is the playable one where player will take a role of citizen

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And it is kinda huge, many "zones", i even made a node that is optimizing the game depending in which zone you are at

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Like, if you enter one zone, another one gets unloaded

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And if you enter another one, it gets loaded back and other ones getting unloaded, etc

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Lowering drawcalls, lowering node count, as well as physics overwork

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I still wish to make other 2 locations like that, but, damn, getting so much issues with technical part i didn't expected to get

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:48 PM

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ah id love to do that

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but I dont wanna recode my loading system though

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:48 PM

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It is not even about loading

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:48 PM

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or maybe I could go about that in a smarter

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way

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:O

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:48 PM

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It is just about adding and removing children

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:48 PM

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I could have separate sections

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yes

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exactly

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we're so smart

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:48 PM

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I love removing children

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Not in real life tho

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I remember watching a vid about story of task manager

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At certain point you could kill children with it

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Which meant killing child processes, but you know what sounds more fun

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... and horrible too

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:51 PM

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icy anchor I love removing children

this is a sentence

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welp

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optimization hell

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just stuck here until something happens

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bc I dont know wtf to do

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im waiting til 4.2 comes out to see if maybe it fixes anything

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:57 PM

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unique hill just stuck here until something happens

I love making theories to check, so gonna be around

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Also, wanted to ask...

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You said you have settings menu? Does it interact with WorldEnvironment by any chance?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:57 PM

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icy anchor You said you have settings menu? Does it interact with `WorldEnvironment` by any...

it does but only after clicking the apply button

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 6:58 PM

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Mhm

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Does it change SSR settings?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 6:59 PM

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icy anchor Does it change SSR settings?

ye but onlywhen applied

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or upon level load

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:00 PM

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But i wonder if it is still doing the crazy settings

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Also, i wanted to say that editor viewport is usually smaller than game one

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:01 PM

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icy anchor But i wonder if it is still doing the crazy settings

wdym

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Options menu shouldnt do anything like the lag in here

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:01 PM

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I wonder, how much it is going to change if you will make it a little bigger

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:02 PM

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wide

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:02 PM

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unique hill Options menu shouldnt do anything like the lag in here

Nah i mean if it is changing the parameters in that way still. I'm pretty sure it doesn't apply any settings and it's good, just wondering if it is still using old values

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:02 PM

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unique hill wide

It is killing my mind

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Godot why

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Alright also...

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You said you have post-processing, like, separate CanvasLayer, with ColorRect, etc, right?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:03 PM

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icy anchor You said you have post-processing, like, separate `CanvasLayer`, with `ColorRect...

yeah

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only abou

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two or three

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lens flare

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vignette

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and damage gradient

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:04 PM

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I have like ~10 and it doesn't do that

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Additionally GPU profiling shows that canlas layer processing doesn't use much in your case too

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:05 PM

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icy anchor Additionally GPU profiling shows that canlas layer processing doesn't use much i...

hmmm

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:05 PM

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Do you have a way to lower resolution in game?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:05 PM

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AUYHGTFEVCGAHJKIF

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Bad news

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& Good news

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good news I found the cause

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bad news

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:06 PM

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icy anchor Do you have a way to lower resolution in game?

yes

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:06 PM

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unique hill bad news

I really hope you see the issue here

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:06 PM

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unique hill bad news

What did you do

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:06 PM

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the background

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:06 PM

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The sun? No background?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:06 PM

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I hid it

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and my fps skyrocketed

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:06 PM

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Actually you just remind me of one thing...

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I remember that Godot has issue with rendering huge objects

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Damn man i feel really sorry for background

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:07 PM

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2nd screenshot with only the sky background turned on (these are things that are high up)

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:07 PM

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icy anchor Damn man i feel really sorry for background

I refuse to believe this

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I REFUSE

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to believe this

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:07 PM

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I refuse to believe this too

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:07 PM

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Out of everything in my scene

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I spent the most time

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on the background

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Im so insanely upset right now

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the cyberpunk buildings

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are what is causing thios

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Im so impossibly pissed off

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both of the fucking buildings are lagging

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oh

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my

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god

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:10 PM

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I wonder what is going to piss me off in m_day1_1, i'm still investigating some things

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But damn this thing tells me nothing good

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Sometimes i think that to fix the lag you gotta rework the entire thing to occassionally find out

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:10 PM

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im this close to deleting this level and redoing it

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:10 PM

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To just see such stuff

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:11 PM

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HUH

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ohkay

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I think I know the issue

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Im going to attempt to fix it

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:11 PM

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unique hill Im so insanely upset right now

Man i know you'd probably kill me for these words but can you turn these buildings to a 2D texture somehow?

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And place the planes far away instead

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:12 PM

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unique hill Im going to attempt to fix it

?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:12 PM

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icy anchor Man i know you'd probably kill me for these words but can you turn these buildin...

I already did

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there was 30 cyberpunk building plates

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now theres only 6

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😭

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:12 PM

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._.

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:12 PM

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icy anchor ?

Theres a MASSIVE error generating

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due to multimeshes

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I feel I know the cause

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I believe its because I removed the floor that the meshes were scatted on

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*scattered

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:13 PM

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Actually, these errors may do the lag too

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:13 PM

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Because the normal buildings

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dont generate the error

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see it stops here, and these buildings have a floor mesh still there

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:13 PM

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unique hill Because the normal buildings

Man that FPS is going to burn your GPU up

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:13 PM

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icy anchor Man that FPS is going to burn your GPU up

its a GTX 1650

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it never hits 1K fps

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let me feel the happiness 😭💀

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Lmao alright

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Mine will never do that too, but you know why

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:14 PM

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unique hill see it stops here, and these buildings have a floor mesh still there

Why floor though, i don't get it

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I never worked with multimeshes yet because i didn't have had cases to use them

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Basically, it reduces the draw call from a potential 5000

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to 5

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if I place 5000 buildings

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with the same model

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:15 PM

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I know, instancing

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:15 PM

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normally it'd be 5000 separate draw

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yeah

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but

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:15 PM

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But i never needed instancing for now

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:15 PM

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it needs to instance

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on a mesh

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but what I did is delete that mesh

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which it was instanced on

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like a complete idiot

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this was weeks ago

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:15 PM

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And you had no issues back then?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:16 PM

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unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:16 PM

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icy anchor And you had no issues back then?

none at all

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:16 PM

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unique hill

Im gon do this 128 per building model

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:16 PM

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unique hill

Now i get it

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Damn

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This is one of the reasons i hate human factor

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I try to make tools to avoid it

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And support of the tools now becomes another fucky human factor

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:17 PM

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ok maybe the larger buildings could be 64

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:17 PM

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icy anchor And support of the tools now becomes another fucky human factor

Lmfao true

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:18 PM

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What did I miss and why are you on 1000+ fps now...

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:19 PM

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unborn vale What did I miss and why are you on 1000+ fps now...

We overcloaked his GPU, now we can do british tea on it

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Jokes aside, it is just one little prefab scene, fixing the actual one yet

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The cause of the issue is the background buildings

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To be more precise - damn multimeshes

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:20 PM

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what was wrong with the multimeshes?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:20 PM

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ok now all of the buildings are massive

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:20 PM

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unborn vale what was wrong with the multimeshes?

The target node has been removed

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:20 PM

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unique hill ok now all of the buildings are massive

My building is big is very very big

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:20 PM

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this is fine actually

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:22 PM

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icy anchor We overcloaked his GPU, now we can do british tea on it

british tea

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so I did this for no reason

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:22 PM

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unique hill british tea

Truly british tea!

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:22 PM

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unique hill so I did this for no reason

44 fps? Man, i know screenshots can occasionally lower it but...

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:22 PM

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actually

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yk what

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its a good thing I did that

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its taller

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fits more the feel of the game

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and uses less instances

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:23 PM

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Pro-dev move

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:23 PM

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find bug

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fix bug

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:23 PM

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What is all the video memeory used on?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:23 PM

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realize that wasnt bug

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newly made thing

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:23 PM

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unborn vale What is all the video memeory used on?

How

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:23 PM

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use new thing

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:24 PM

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unborn vale What is all the video memeory used on?

how

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:24 PM

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waht you mean by how?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:24 PM

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how to access it

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:24 PM

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unborn vale waht you mean by how?

The scene itself isn't using that much textures in my opinion

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:24 PM

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unique hill how to access it

Performance one has it

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But you gotta to divide it by some number to get megabytes

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:25 PM

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938 mb

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:25 PM

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    value = Performance.get_monitor(Performance.RENDER_VIDEO_MEM_USED)
    value /= 1024
    value /= 1024
    value = floor(value)
    change_data_value(
        "Videomemory", 
        str(value) + " MB"
    )

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:25 PM

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whats the number

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1024?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:25 PM

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unborn vale 938 mb

The memory shown in HUD is probably RAM

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:26 PM

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unique hill 1024?

Kinda

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:26 PM

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I love it when I try to fix something

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realize that something wasnt the cause

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and ended up making something better

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:26 PM

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icy anchor The memory shown in HUD is probably RAM

It shows both ram and video no?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:26 PM

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look at the difference in this scene

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its so much more

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idk

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It has a feel

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more to it

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:26 PM

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unborn vale It shows both ram and video no?

I can't be sure

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:26 PM

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than it had previously

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:26 PM

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Ah wait...

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I'm blind

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:26 PM

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lol

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:27 PM

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Wait why does it use >900 MB of VRAM

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Phoenix literally opened my eyes

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:27 PM

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what if you convert all the far building to flat planes?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:28 PM

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unborn vale what if you convert all the far building to flat planes?

Cant do that without it looking like shit tbh

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wait

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define far

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bc if u didnt notice that most of them are planes

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then I did a really good job

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:28 PM

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I didn't notice it yet but i've not played the game itself

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I'd probably notice something in parallaxing but at the same time it's easy to fool me around

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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I didn't notice

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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unique hill look at the difference in this scene

Lovehow this looks

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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how far away before they convert to planes?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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I made the scene darker

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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unborn vale how far away before they convert to planes?

most of them are planes

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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damn...

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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AAnything without an outline

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is a plane

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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what graphics card do you have btw?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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like this back here

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:29 PM

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unborn vale what graphics card do you have btw?

GTX 1650

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exception made for this plane here

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:31 PM

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man...

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a gtx 1650 isn't even that bad

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:32 PM

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unborn vale a gtx 1650 isn't even that bad

i5 9300K as well

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8gb of ram

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unsure of the VRam

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Ill see if I can pull up my specs rq

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:33 PM

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prolly 4 or 6 gb

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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Monitor 1 is broken properly

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monitor 2 is a wireless display

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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unique hill Monitor 1 is broken properly

valorant had me fucked up if u were wondering

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dont think I need to elaborate for yall to know where that went 💀

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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how broken?

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oh

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...

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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so much so that Im using a wireless display

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dw abt that part

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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like you punched it?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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GPU PROFILE (total 53.569ms): 
    -Prepare 3D Scene: 0.19961538681617ms
    -GI + Render Depth Pre-Pass (Parallel): 2.13207685030424ms
    -Average SDFGI Probes: 1.27888444753794ms
    -Render GI + Render Shadows (Parallel): 9.89026935283954ms
    -Process SSAO: 1.42646158658541ms
    -Process SSIL: 2.4105768937331ms
    -Render 3D Cluster Elements: 0.01034615590022ms
    -Render Fog: 0.03576923792179ms
    -Integrate Fog: 0.01346153823229ms
    -Render Opaque Pass: 0.10911538050725ms
    -Render Sky: 0.7722692489624ms
    -Screen-Space Reflections: 1.42496153024527ms
    -Copy Depth Texture: 0.08226921925178ms
    -Render 3D Transparent Pass: 2.14269227247972ms
    -Copy Final Framebuffer (SSIL): 0.39961532446054ms
    -Tonemap: 1.36726936927209ms
    -Glow: 2.09334608224722ms
    -Render CanvasItems: 2.55584599421575ms

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extreme lag on here

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53ms

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no clue why

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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unborn vale like you punched it?

no

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dw abt it

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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ok...

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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that was quite somet ime ago

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im a better person than that

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but in all honesty

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if u saw what happened that game

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youd understand why

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:36 PM

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How many lights do you have in the scene?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:36 PM

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three

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:36 PM

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since shadows is nearly 10 ms

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:36 PM

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spotlight for background

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one for normal light

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another only for the sky

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:37 PM

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unique hill ``` GPU PROFILE (total 53.569ms): -Prepare 3D Scene: 0.19961538681617ms ...

-Render GI + Render Shadows (Parallel): 9.89026935283954ms
This is the biggest one and... it doesn't add much to total time .-.

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Shadows don't seem to be the issue

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:38 PM

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icy anchor ```-Render GI + Render Shadows (Parallel): 9.89026935283954ms``` This is the big...

I think this lag spike happened

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bc my pc ran out of ram

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for a split second

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while opening razer cortex

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:38 PM

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but like 9 ms on shadows?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:38 PM

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unborn vale but like 9 ms on shadows?

Rookie numbers in comparison to total time of 53 ms

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:39 PM

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https://www.acer.com/ae-en/laptops/nitro/nitro-5/pdp/NH.Q59EM.04Q

Acer Middle East

AN515-54 - Tech Specs | Laptops | Acer Middle East

Go full throttle with the Acer Nitro 5 gaming laptop in either 15 or 17-inch models – whether using it as a laptop for casual gaming or ranking up online.

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this is the laptop ive got

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why tf is it saying middle east???

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:39 PM

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unique hill bc my pc ran out of ram

Actually, i never thought of that. How much free RAM you have while running the game

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:39 PM

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acer middle east??????

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im in NA bro this is wild

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:39 PM

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icy anchor Actually, i never thought of that. How much free RAM you have while running the ...

neither have i

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let me check

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unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:42 PM

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what about video memory?

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icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:42 PM

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unique hill

Looks about fine

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:43 PM

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unborn vale

just realized the arrow is pointing above

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lol

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:44 PM

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windows doesnt let me screenshot

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:44 PM

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it's the text below that's important

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win+shift+s

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:44 PM

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the taskmanager

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yeah

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k therewe go

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:44 PM

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gpu dying

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:44 PM

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lmao

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:44 PM

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how much of the video memory is used?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:45 PM

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unborn vale gpu dying

But we need tea

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Also regarding the GPU memory... How much much resolution of used textures?

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:46 PM

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actually even more important, are you passing anything (most likely) from the cpu to gpu, cuz you really want to limit that alot

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:46 PM

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icy anchor Also regarding the GPU memory... How much much resolution of used textures?

"much much" damn my brain is dying send help

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:46 PM

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I wonder if I can make a good looking nighttime scene

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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unborn vale actually even more important, are you passing anything (most likely) from the cp...

not through code I dont think

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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icy anchor Also regarding the GPU memory... How much much resolution of used textures?

not too high

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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unique hill not through code I dont think

How much textures

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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unique hill not too high

1024? 2048?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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max it would be for any noise texture is 1024

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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unique hill not through code I dont think

no uniforms or anything?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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oh thats that u mean

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only like 4 shaders in that scenee

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:48 PM

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Maybe Godot itself is reserving GPU memory for something

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I'd expect that for voxels and stuff

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But they are not used in here

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:48 PM

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is SDFGI voxels?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:49 PM

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Not really i think

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It's more about raymarching and etc

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VoxelGI on other hand...

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But you know it is not used

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:51 PM

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Yall prefer the sunset version or the night time version

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:52 PM

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Both!

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Damn you made this one quick

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:52 PM

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icy anchor Damn you made this one quick

haha yea

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:52 PM

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Right now it would be sunset but if the detail was more detailed prolly night

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:52 PM

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I already had a night sky

unborn vale Sep 17, 2023, 7:52 PM

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not detail lol

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brain no work momemnt

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background was more detailed*

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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Godot didnt undo properly

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now i gotta fix the lighting again fromscratch

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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unique hill Godot didnt undo properly

git?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:55 PM

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I dont push to github that often

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and I didnt set up git as yet

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even tho I shouldve

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:56 PM

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I'm trying to make new commits almost each hour or on each completed task no matter how big it is

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Saves my ass sometimes

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I even managed to revert the changes to year old version

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 7:57 PM

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icy anchor I even managed to revert the changes to year old version

In decals class... But anyway

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 7:59 PM

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damn

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still looks good

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also!
Fps bump

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its 40 now

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:02 PM

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unique hill its 40 now

Wait why

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:02 PM

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icy anchor Wait why

mostly bc of the reflection changes

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still need to get that 60 tho

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oh well

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im sure ill find something to fix it eventually

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:11 PM

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I'll return here when i'll have more ideas

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I'm glad we had more progress

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:11 PM

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yee

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:12 PM

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icy anchor I'll return here when i'll have more ideas

whats ur specs if u dont mind me asking

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:13 PM

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unique hill whats ur specs if u dont mind me asking

AMD Athlon, 2 cores, 3.00 GHz
Nvidia Geforce GT1030 (GDDR5)
4 GB RAM

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:14 PM

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icy anchor AMD Athlon, 2 cores, 3.00 GHz Nvidia Geforce GT1030 (GDDR5) 4 GB RAM

is this real

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2 cores???

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4gb of ram????????????????

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is that good specsor bad

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:14 PM

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Man, i knew one guy from USA who said me that he could find a better PC on junkyard

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:14 PM

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the shit uve done with those specs are truely a feat

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:14 PM

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But here, in Belarus...

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:15 PM

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belarus

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thats a fancy place

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around europe right?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:15 PM

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Welcome, welcome to Belarus. You have chosen, or been chosen...

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:15 PM

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💀

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city 17 activity

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:15 PM

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unique hill around europe right?

Eastern europe, neighboring the Russia and Ukraine. Has the most fucked up politics at this region. Don't even look up for 2020 protests

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:15 PM

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icy anchor Eastern europe, neighboring the Russia and Ukraine. Has the most fucked up polit...

jesus christ

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neighbouring russia and ukraine yep i'd expect the politics to be properly fucked

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:16 PM

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President rules over that place for 27 years

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:16 PM

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third party in the groupchat argument

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sorry if that joke was inappropriate

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Lmao i love it

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:17 PM

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just googled belarus and that is

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:17 PM

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unique hill is that good specsor bad

I can do things with these, and i do them. But i remember getting a bad mood when my friend said he had 300 fps in gm_post_ussr, when i had 60-80 fps for the most part

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:17 PM

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one of the fanciest architectures ive seen

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:18 PM

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icy anchor I can do things with these, and i do them. But i remember getting a bad mood whe...

is gm_post_ussr ur game

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or a garrys mod map

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:18 PM

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unique hill one of the fanciest architectures ive seen

Minsk can be pretty

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:18 PM

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unique hill or a garrys mod map

Garry's Mod map i made, yea

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:18 PM

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ah

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fancyy

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:18 PM

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It was a ~7 months project, i made all assets in there on my own

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:18 PM

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damn

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:18 PM

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I removed it from workshop because i don't want to be a part of that community anymore for sure

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Nobody used to care about my name anyway

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I love to be in shadows of things i made too

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So having someone reuploaded it is better option for me

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:19 PM

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unique hill the shit uve done with those specs are truely a feat

And, sadly, nobody that much will know about this

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:21 PM

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icy anchor And, sadly, nobody that much will know about this

aww

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how so?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:21 PM

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unique hill aww

I mean, who really cares about story of development, and about optimization too if the game runs well

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Everybody notice optimization only when they have problems

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:22 PM

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icy anchor I mean, who really cares about story of development, and about optimization too ...

great storylines are underappreciated when the gameplay is insane

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:23 PM

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My game definitely has none even after year of active development lol

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Gotta complete it still

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:23 PM

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icy anchor My game definitely has none even after year of active development lol

neither has mine

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just a general idea

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:25 PM

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unique hill neither has mine

The only difference is your project just getting started basically

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In my case i have like ~80 locations in my game, many of them are for debug purposes

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:26 PM

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icy anchor The only difference is your project just getting started basically

only abt 2-3 months of dev

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mostly me doing the work

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:26 PM

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The game can be potentially started, and completed, if fixed everything, and added some missing locations

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:26 PM

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since im the only one mostly familiar withgodot

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im getting started on getting the rest of the team

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in particular the only other programmer on the team

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to learn godot

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:27 PM

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icy anchor The game can be potentially started, and completed, if fixed everything, and add...

But... I still feel that i'm not doing a good job with literally anything. I guess it's perfect time to stop caring about it all and just doing everything to complete it fast

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:27 PM

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unique hill since im the only one mostly familiar withgodot

That is sad

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:27 PM

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the moment when u export a .glb for godot but realize you chose the wrong path now you need to wait 5 minutes for it to export justfor you to delete it and re-export it on the correct path

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:27 PM

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icy anchor That is sad

ehh not really

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I enjoy working alone mostly

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it is better to have someothers helping tho

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example

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those vents models

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were made by another member of my team

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& that solar panel texture was also made by one of my artists

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:28 PM

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unique hill the moment when u export a .glb for godot but realize you chose the wrong path n...

I can't recommend making plugins in Blender though, it's weird

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:28 PM

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im speaking like I run a business but we're just a bunch of teenagers doing random shit

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:29 PM

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icy anchor I can't recommend making plugins in Blender though, it's weird

I dare not attempt it

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its in python for one

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I dont like python much tbh

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:29 PM

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But using GDScript which is modified Python?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:29 PM

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yeah

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:29 PM

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I love that logic

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:29 PM

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gdscript is fine

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but python vanilla

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feels

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idk how to describe it

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yk what i mean

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:29 PM

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There only thing i don't like in OG one is True False None namings, otherwise it is totally fine

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:30 PM

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icy anchor There only thing i don't like in OG one is True False None namings, otherwise it...

I use javascript for things I could do in python

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like making a discord AI

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I mean ofc javascript is the better choice for that

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bc of discordjs

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but python is more geared to ai

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im a lil bit biased i think

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to anything but python

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:32 PM

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At this point i'm not even sure about purpose of these languages

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Like, i used them all, and still not sure

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:32 PM

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unique hill like making a discord AI

side note: the AI is uneccessarily sassy

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:33 PM

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icy anchor Like, i used them all, and still not sure

fr

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:33 PM

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Even remember making a Discord/Telegram bot on my phone (hosted on it too) with Python, it was kind of nice

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The only thing i understand, that i just use the language i need right now, i mean, it doesn't really matter how to shoot the leg

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Ah yea, btw, i think you wondered how script functions look like for me

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Trying to analyze spikes and etc

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:34 PM

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jesus christ

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:36 PM

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icy anchor

optimization hell

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u have 19 errors

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:37 PM

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unique hill u have 19 errors

Some of them can't be fixed, some of them i neglect, some of them were removed

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Mostly i ignored many of these

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:38 PM

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icy anchor Some of them can't be fixed, some of them i neglect, some of them were removed

I try to always keep my errors as small as possible

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I get no errors except for 1

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:38 PM

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Of course i fix them from time to time

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:38 PM

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1 which I cannot change because it always happens upon game start

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but it affects nothing about the game

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random q

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whats the best system for file organization

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:39 PM

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unique hill but it affects nothing about the game

It reminds me of rotref_posscale_decomposition one, it doesn't do anything, but if you have NPC, it will give this one. Or "sync" for navigation mesh, it does nothing at all, but exists and annoying me

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:39 PM

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unique hill whats the best system for file organization

I still can't figure out

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:40 PM

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Nav meshes are supposed to be

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much more efficient

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and faster in 4.1

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so ive never experienced that issue

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I think they completely rewrote it

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:40 PM

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icy anchor I still can't figure out

Mainly i had something like that. My entire game consists of "modules"

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Some of them are just tool-like things, some of them actual systems, some of them are just unique nodes, etc

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Each of them may have code or/and assets

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I'm not sure if it is the perfect one, but i'm still alive with it so...

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Maybe it's decent

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Can't be sure still

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:43 PM

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I am 100%

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going to move to ur system of organization

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bc compared to mine, yours is 1000 times better

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:44 PM

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unique hill bc compared to mine, yours is 1000 times better

I remember having this in my 2 Unity project and in 1 Godot team project, and, yea, it killed me all times

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:44 PM

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im pushing to the repo

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and im gon reorganize everything

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bc that shit

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is so clean

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:44 PM

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Mainly why do i love that idea with modules is that i don't even ask myself where to put assets

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:44 PM

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beuatiful

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:44 PM

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icy anchor Mainly why do i love that idea with modules is that i don't even ask myself wher...

Imagine

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when 4.2 rolls out

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with it's colorable folders

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how amazing it could be

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:45 PM

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Heh damn that'd be nice

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:45 PM

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the PR for colored folders is out already

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:45 PM

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I've seen one guy working on special addon to organize scripts in editor

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:45 PM

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icy anchor I've seen one guy working on special addon to organize scripts in editor

I'd be really happy to get one for myself in 3.5x

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:46 PM

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icy anchor I'd be really happy to get one for myself in 3.5x

Because... i mean, i can RMB and close all, but still

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Gotta close btw

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This is how perfect code looks like

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:48 PM

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icy anchor This is how perfect code looks like

perfection

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:48 PM

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icy anchor Because... i mean, i can RMB and close all, but still

I prefer middle click tbh

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I should ask

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do you mind if I actually copy ur style of organization?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:48 PM

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unique hill I prefer middle click tbh

Damn, thanks, i didn't know about that

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:49 PM

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unique hill do you mind if I actually copy ur style of organization?

Sure thing

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:49 PM

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icy anchor Damn, thanks, i didn't know about that

works in shader editor too

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:49 PM

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icy anchor Sure thing

ty

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:49 PM

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icy anchor Sure thing

is it by chance inspired by how gmod and source do their organization?

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bc I recognize a lot from it

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:49 PM

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unique hill is it by chance inspired by how gmod and source do their organization?

Yes and no, it is something i decided to go with over time

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:49 PM

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icy anchor Yes and no, it is something i decided to go with over time

neat

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I shouldve started with organization when I fist made the project

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*first

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what is with me and spelling errors today

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:50 PM

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But i gotta say that i really love that Source prefers doing more things in code, loading resources in run-time, making it extensible, flexible, and so god damn blind

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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icy anchor But i gotta say that i really love that Source prefers doing more things in code...

it does?

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only experience I have with source

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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A lot, really

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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is some SFM and 1 gmod test map

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4 years ago

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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icy anchor A lot, really

interesting

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it sounds cool

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I am afraid

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last time this popped up all my scenes were corrupted

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:53 PM

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unique hill I am afraid

I hope you can revert the change for single file

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:54 PM

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I pushed the entire thing

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to the repo

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so I can just revert everything

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if i need to

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:54 PM

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unique hill only experience I have with source

I'm inspired by Source in terms of making the level design tools too, this is why i prefer nodes over prefabs. It is both good and bad, idk

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:55 PM

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oh whats a prefab

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 8:56 PM

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unique hill oh whats a prefab

Basically what you do when you drag the scene to your currently edited one

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I'm not against using prefabs though, because it is pretty flexible way too

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And easier to make because it is supported by default

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 8:58 PM

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icy anchor Basically what you do when you drag the scene to your currently edited one

ahh

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I feel I might download that PR build for file colors right now tbh

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 9:01 PM

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unique hill ahh

The pain with making nodes for everything is... Firstly, any new node you make with that "create new node" window is made at [0, 0, 0], so to fix this i had to make a bunch of plugins lol

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 9:01 PM

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unique hill I feel I might download that PR build for file colors right now tbh

Sounds nice

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 9:02 PM

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icy anchor The pain with making nodes for everything is... Firstly, any new node you make w...

oo interesting

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I prefer my drag and drop still tho

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 9:05 PM

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And i recommend staying with it

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My methods prove to be problematic, yet i'll stay with them because i already have pretty much all needed toolset

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I shot my leg, yet happy with it somewhat

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 9:08 PM

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lmao

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I feel I might change a few things to make my game more modular as well

#

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such amazing texture art I can do

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 9:15 PM

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unique hill

Lmao i'd see someone digging in files of the project and see that for first time

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 9:16 PM

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icy anchor Lmao i'd see someone digging in files of the project and see that for first time

I never knew just how unorganized and shitty some of the code is before I started this

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 9:16 PM

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icy anchor Lmao i'd see someone digging in files of the project and see that for first time

this is in the game files

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this was used as a test puddle roughness map

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 9:17 PM

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unique hill this is in the game files

I love how that puddle is loading

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 9:17 PM

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unique hill I never knew just how unorganized and shitty some of the code is before I starte...

I still discover it from time to time lol

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And attempting to fix it when i can actually do that

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Perfection is not the limit

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 9:18 PM

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going to use classnames as well

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 9:18 PM

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Welcome to custom nodes!

vagrant harbor Sep 17, 2023, 9:21 PM

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这个画面太酷了！

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 9:29 PM

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vagrant harbor 这个画面太酷了！

Thanks!

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:41 PM

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icy anchor Welcome to custom nodes!

google is tracking us bruh I just got a recommendation on yt about lag in games

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:42 PM

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unique hill google is tracking us bruh I just got a recommendation on yt about lag in games

Man i wish Google told me how to remove collision shapes

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:42 PM

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icy anchor Man i wish Google told me how to remove collision shapes

💀 wdym?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:43 PM

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Because i've been looking for the 3 lines of code for a year

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:43 PM

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whywould u need toremove col shapes

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:43 PM

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unique hill 💀 wdym?

I remember sending you a code snippet that allows to remove a node of CollisionShape while keeping collision itself

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:43 PM

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oh yeah

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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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i see why thats an issue

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:43 PM

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unique hill whywould u need toremove col shapes

According to statistics, it is the biggest contributor to node count

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:43 PM

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ok

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I think I have an idea to fix that in 4.1

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ill do it after im finished eating

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:44 PM

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icy anchor According to statistics, it is the biggest contributor to node count

And it gets worse for complex dynamic props which have multiple convex collisions to form one for prop

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:44 PM

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unique hill ill do it after im finished eating

Sounds great

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:44 PM

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question

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is that even possible?

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or just a theory

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I mean it is

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obv

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but with 3 lines of code?

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:45 PM

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icy anchor I remember sending you a code snippet that allows to remove a node of `Collision...

can u resend that

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:46 PM

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unique hill but with 3 lines of code?

It is more complex really. In my case i had to repeat these lines for each case when i initialized collisions. For static objects, for dynamic ones, etc

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:46 PM

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icy anchor It is more complex really. In my case i had to repeat these lines for each case ...

hmm

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maybe 4.0 introduced something wacky

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that I can probably use

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and then reconvert

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into 3.5 code for u

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big maybe

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:47 PM

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unique hill hmm

var static_body: StaticBody
# ...
var owner_id = static_body.create_shape_owner(static_body) # Register owner ID
var col_shape = static_body.get_child(0) # I had only one CollisionShape, so i'll get only one child
static_body.shape_owner_add_shape(owner_id, col_shape.shape) # Add shape for collision
col_shape.queue_free() # Remove CollisionShape since it is unneeded now

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Somewhat i have a feeling it doesn't even change in 4.x but you gotta try first

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:48 PM

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step by step what does this do

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:48 PM

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Basically main principle is getting physical body, registering owner ID and adding a shape to that ID

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:48 PM

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icy anchor Basically main principle is getting physical body, registering owner ID and addi...

would a shape not be a node?

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I reckon I could make it so that it works with static, rigid and kinematic

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in 1 script

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rather than separate scripts which I assume was the case for you

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or maybe I misread and misunderstood

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3 lines doesnt seem possible

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:50 PM

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unique hill step by step what does this do

Static body, you get it for example
You create a shape owner in this body, this gives you an owner ID you will use later
You find a collision shape. It can be one, it can be many, in this code snippet i've got only one
You add a shape to shape owner (providing owner ID). The shape itself is not a node, it is a resource you can use. CollisionShape's have it as shape variable
You remove the CollisionShape because it is obsolete

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:50 PM

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unique hill 3 lines doesnt seem possible

Main logic happens in these 3 lines, but it can be more depending on use case

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:51 PM

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icy anchor Because i've been looking for the 3 lines of code for a year

u have the lines tho so im a bit confused

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:51 PM

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unique hill or maybe I misread and misunderstood

Yea it's separate scripts for me, because i have special logic of initialization of all objects

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:51 PM

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unique hill u have the lines tho so im a bit confused

Basically i said line by line what it does, up there

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:52 PM

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icy anchor ```py var static_body: StaticBody # ... var owner_id = static_body.create_shape_...

This is the treasure for me

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:52 PM

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icy anchor Yea it's separate scripts for me, because i have special logic of initialization...

interesting

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is it possible to just do a loop

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of each child when the game starts

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and check its type?

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or loop all nodes in a collision group?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:53 PM

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Basically you can iterate through all nodes of a scene and launch that kind of logic

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*iterate through all nodes recursively

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:54 PM

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if collision shapes can be so easily replaced like that

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what about other nodes?

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:54 PM

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unique hill and check its type?

It sounds like that one code i sent you to analyze the node count, except, in this case you find the physics bodies, find all collision shapes they use, and apply the logic on them

icy anchor Sep 17, 2023, 10:55 PM

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unique hill what about other nodes?

Depends on case. For example i had a node that combined almost all static bodies to minimum possible amount, yet that caused physics overhead

unique hill Sep 17, 2023, 10:57 PM

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dam

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 12:36 AM

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icy anchor ```py var static_body: StaticBody # ... var owner_id = static_body.create_shape_...

lmao bro u aint gon believe this

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idk what I did but it ups the node count instead of lowering it

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I believe I fixed it

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there we go, went down from 2500 nodes to 1400

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working on improving it

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?

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 1:50 AM

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lilac igloo Sep 18, 2023, 2:18 AM

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Looking great Keep it up 🙂

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 2:22 AM

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lilac igloo Looking great Keep it up 🙂

:D

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 3:12 AM

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https://imgur.com/ymVbpqZ

Imgur

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beautiful startup animation

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its so squishy

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 7:30 AM

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unique hill ?

This is not looking right, or is it?

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 7:30 AM

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unique hill there we go, went down from 2500 nodes to 1400

Haha yay

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 12:12 PM

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icy anchor This is not looking right, or is it?

I forgot to clear the children array when this happened

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it works as intended now

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really nice

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 12:13 PM

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It scared me a little, but good to know!

wooden grail Sep 18, 2023, 2:54 PM

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@unique hill are you planning on adding AA?

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 3:19 PM

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wooden grail <@768617735591821352> are you planning on adding AA?

Anti Aliasing?

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For a very odd reason, antialiasing on my machine just stops all rendering of anything

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so its disabled for now but i'd love to implement it at a later date

wooden grail Sep 18, 2023, 3:22 PM

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unique hill Anti Aliasing?

yep

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Thats weird

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 3:22 PM

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wooden grail Thats weird

very much so

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 5:47 PM

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HAHA

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look at that

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50 fps

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gorgeous

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just need another 10 now

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I technically did it

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I just made the default settings slightly lower

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so that means

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i technically reached my goal

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of 60 fps default settings

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wild valve Sep 18, 2023, 7:55 PM

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what's your computer spec?

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:01 PM

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wild valve what's your computer spec?

GTX 1650, with an Intel i5 9300K I believe

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8GB of ram as well

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1650 has 4gb VRam

wild valve Sep 18, 2023, 8:05 PM

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and what's your target for minimum system requirement? because your spec is a standard ones and if you got 60 fps, you need at leas 5X more to implement logic etc

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:05 PM

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wild valve and what's your target for minimum system requirement? because your spec is a st...

wdym atleast 5x more to implement logic

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my target minimum system requirement would ideally be my own specs or something a tad bit lower

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I dont have that good of a pc

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its a laptop

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few years old

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gaming laptop but has mildly old hardware

wild valve Sep 18, 2023, 8:06 PM

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I mean do you implement some logic in your game or it is only 3D feature testing?

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:06 PM

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it is a game

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it has gameplay

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all the systems a game needs

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options menu, pause menu, startup animation, etc

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movement n stuff

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:07 PM

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wild valve I mean do you implement some logic in your game or it is only 3D feature testing...

Yk kinda both

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Its a game but Im also using it to perfect high end godot graphics

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whlist having a stable fps

wild valve Sep 18, 2023, 8:08 PM

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you need some room for crowd scenes if you have something like that in your game

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:08 PM

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wild valve you need some room for crowd scenes if you have something like that in your game

Ive got a decently good laptop

wild valve Sep 18, 2023, 8:09 PM

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for example if you can get 120 fps you will have 60 fps in future for things that you don't predict currently

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:10 PM

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wild valve for example if you can get 120 fps you will have 60 fps in future for things tha...

ah fair

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I will be adding a max fps option too

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:12 PM

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wild valve for example if you can get 120 fps you will have 60 fps in future for things tha...

Good example. In my m_day1_1, i have ~30 fps during the start shooting, where ~12 NPCs participate in it. When you enter "wait" section when nothing much happens, it is 50-60 fps. When "battlefield" section happens (~7 NPCs), it is 40-50 fps

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Number may seem to be low, and i agree with that, but my specs are really bad and it was challenging enough to achieve even these ones

wild valve Sep 18, 2023, 8:19 PM

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you can use this website to compare GPUs and choose minimum system requirement sooner than later, because SDFGI is a too demanding for GPU and should consider it:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1650.c3366

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:19 PM

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wild valve you can use this website to compare GPUs and choose minimum system requirement s...

I will ensure I make atleast

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120 fps

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or 80 fps

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just to have frames left over

wild valve Sep 18, 2023, 8:22 PM

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It's a good idea. I currently try to remaking DUSK E1M1 and I use Godot 3.5 and its light mapper and I got 300 fps but in crowded scene it drops to 70 fps because of shooting, particle effects and some gibs!

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:29 PM

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i should start to focus more on the story

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rather than having a fully fleshed out game with awesome mechanics

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and zero story

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:30 PM

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unique hill

Hey pal, i'm not sure if i need to suggest you this but...

https://renderdoc.org/

This tool helps to analyze rendered frame of your game. You may tell me that Godot already has GPU profiling, but this tool may expose you the deepest GPU operations and other stuff. You may need to take a look on some tutorials to get started, this thing is confusing. Why am i telling this? You may be interested to know what exactly uses your VRAM and so on.

RenderDoc

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:30 PM

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:OOOO

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honestly

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the multimeshes are surprisingly a major contributor to the lag

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I need to find a way to optimize those

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without sacrificing quality

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:38 PM

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unique hill without sacrificing quality

Exporting them as GLTF and placing it instead?

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Actually you said me that you tried turning them to MeshInstance3D

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Nevermind then

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:38 PM

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icy anchor Exporting them as GLTF and placing it instead?

I did that originally

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I never measured the fps when I did that tho

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will try again maybe

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:39 PM

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Make sure it is forming huge clusters or something like that

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I'd recommend splitting it in parts to make frustum optimization more effective

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But even keeping it as one singular mesh can do some changes to performance anyway

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:40 PM

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icy anchor But even keeping it as one singular mesh can do some changes to performance anyw...

I shouldve kept it as one mesh then

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I used geometry nodes in blender to scatter it about originally

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:41 PM

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unique hill I shouldve kept it as one mesh then

It is both good and bad thing, but i'm not sure, i'd really like to see numbers first

wild valve Sep 18, 2023, 8:42 PM

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Do you test this in your game:
https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/3d/occlusion_culling.html

Godot Engine documentation

Occlusion culling

In a 3D rendering engine, occlusion culling is the process of performing hidden geometry removal. On this page, you'll learn: What are the advantages and pitfalls of occlusion culling., How to set ...

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:42 PM

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wild valve Do you test this in your game: https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/...

this is active in my game

wild valve Sep 18, 2023, 8:43 PM

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ok so you will have hard time for optimization 😂

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:44 PM

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By the way, you've written almost all necessary info of Performance class, can you also add "vertices" data on it?

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It can tell how much of them are you rendering

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I know that you can see it in editor, but i'd see the numbers in-game out of interest

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:44 PM

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icy anchor By the way, you've written almost all necessary info of `Performance` class, can...

Im not quite sure what the property value for that one is

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:44 PM

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Let me check

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:45 PM

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when I was tabbing to autocomplete, I didn't find a vertices property or similar

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:46 PM

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unique hill Im not quite sure what the property value for that one is

Performance.get_monitor(Performance.RENDER_TOTAL_PRIMITIVES_IN_FRAME)

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What a weird renaming though

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I've written this according to 4.1 doc

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:46 PM

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that name

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:46 PM

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That name is weird

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:46 PM

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how is that even related to vertices

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I would 100% assume if I wasnt told otherwise

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that that property is for primitive meshes

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:46 PM

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unique hill how is that even related to vertices

I can't believe this too

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:46 PM

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like cube, sphere and other shit

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:47 PM

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icy anchor I can't believe this too

wtf?

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so its not accurate?

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:47 PM

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Alright, also, if we started, RENDER_TOTAL_DRAW_CALLS_IN_FRAME and RENDER_TOTAL_OBJECTS_IN_FRAME can be useful too

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:47 PM

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I have total nodes

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:47 PM

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unique hill so its not accurate?

It should be, but we will see values

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:48 PM

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Ill add objects in a moment

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half-busy rn

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But i'd assume objects to be much higher

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:49 PM

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unique hill I have total nodes

Yep, that's good because a lot of nodes can cause issues with CPU performance. Currently you have heavy GPU usage (for any reason), and these ones can tell how much things you actually render. As i understand, draw calls is different from objects simply because you can render one object and it will need more than 1 drawcall

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But you know what, i'm not sure, let me check what that thing is showing me

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:50 PM

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unique hill But i'd assume objects to be much higher

Yea, you see, Godot renders 39 objects, and it results in 82 drawcalls. I assume that one object is, for example, 1 MeshInstance3D, that has a mesh, that has more than 1 surface, meaning more than 1 draw-call required for it

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Ill implement a proper debug set up

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when im free

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Sure thing

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:44 PM

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icy anchor Sure thing

I coded a fancy thing

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what do you use for ur render vertices?

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in 3.5

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:46 PM

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unique hill what do you use for ur render vertices?

Performance.RENDER_VERTICES_IN_FRAME

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It is really weird they did this change

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:48 PM

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icy anchor It is really weird they did this change

and yet draw calls stay the same???

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:48 PM

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unique hill and yet draw calls stay the same???

Yep, seems so

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I'm still not sure why they didn't do triangles

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Like, it may be more useful to know how much triangles are rendered

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:49 PM

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could divide the vertex count by 3

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or is that stupid

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:49 PM

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Simply because OpenGL/Vulkan/DirectX/etc use this primitive for almost all use cases

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:49 PM

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1270221

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Divded by 3

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:49 PM

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unique hill 1270221

423407 as result

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:49 PM

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is

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423407

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:49 PM

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Yea

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:50 PM

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no decimals

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:50 PM

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Since no floating point, your logic has a point

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:50 PM

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meaning it would theoretically work

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yeah

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:50 PM

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icy anchor Simply because OpenGL/Vulkan/DirectX/etc use this primitive for almost all use c...

you reckon its changed bc of vulkan?

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:50 PM

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Gonna add it in my debug info, may be useful

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:51 PM

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unique hill you reckon its changed bc of vulkan?

Not really sure, it shouldn't affect it that much, however i've never used to work with Vulkan and i know that it is really, really low-level for the sake of asynchronous stuff

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:52 PM

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unique hill could divide the vertex count by 3

Your logic might be good simply for one reason: All geometry in Godot (and as it follows in runtime) consists of triangles when it is going to be rendered

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Exceptions are probably things like immediate meshes, which i'm not using much in my game anyway

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:53 PM

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oooh my pc just ran out of memory 3 times

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I think blender tried to render like

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50 million tris

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or sum

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:54 PM

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???

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:54 PM

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icy anchor Exceptions are probably things like immediate meshes, which i'm not using much i...

whats an immediate mesh?

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:54 PM

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What is it?

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:54 PM

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Ive never used it

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:54 PM

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icy anchor What is it?

I tried to scatter about the building meshes

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for a building plate model

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but

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I forgot to lower the density

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before I connected the collection in geometry nodes

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so it just

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dies

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:55 PM

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unique hill whats an immediate mesh?

In really old days, OpenGL used something like...

glBegin()
glColor(1.0, 0.0, 0.0)
glAddVertex(1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
glAddVertex(1.0, 0.0, 1.0)
glAddVertex(1.0, 1.0, 0.0)
glEnd()

So, basically, immediate mesh allows to do something like that. I personally use it for debug gizmos

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:55 PM

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unique hill *dies*

Reminds me of using remesh modifier on pretty decently sized geometry

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:55 PM

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that code looks wacky

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it creates a cube tho right

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:56 PM

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unique hill that code looks wacky

Yep, and slow, so it got replaced with vertex buffers and stuff

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:56 PM

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unique hill it creates a cube tho right

A single triangle colored red, but it's just an example code, i'm not sure if i named the methods right

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:56 PM

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icy anchor A single triangle colored red, but it's just an example code, i'm not sure if i ...

interesting

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:57 PM

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unique hill whats an immediate mesh?

https://docs.godotengine.org/en/4.1/classes/class_immediatemesh.html

Godot Engine documentation

ImmediateMesh

Inherits: Mesh< Resource< RefCounted< Object Mesh optimized for creating geometry manually. Description: A mesh type optimized for creating geometry manually, similar to OpenGL 1.x immediate mode. ...

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Basically, it is really useful for frequently changing geometry

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 10:57 PM

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imagine 300 tri models instaced this amount of times

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no wonder my pc almost died wtf

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 10:58 PM

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unique hill imagine 300 tri models instaced this amount of times

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I wanted to send nuclear explosion

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But forgot about that limit

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:00 PM

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unique hill imagine 300 tri models instaced this amount of times

Imagine using this 2kk triangle model this amount of times

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:00 PM

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icy anchor Imagine using this 2kk triangle model this amount of times

please tell me this isnt a model from ur game

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:01 PM

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unique hill please tell me this isnt a model from ur game

This is high-poly version of it. Low-poly one is 50k triangles

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:02 PM

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unique hill please tell me this isnt a model from ur game

This is the one i use in game

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You may tell me it is still a lot, but, knowing that hands are placed extremely close to camera, it is better to give them a little bit more

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:04 PM

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icy anchor You may tell me it is still a lot, but, knowing that hands are placed extremely ...

this is good

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how much tris?

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im gon guess

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:04 PM

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unique hill how much tris?

50k for both hands

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:04 PM

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20k-30k

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god

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damn

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:04 PM

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25k for only one

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:04 PM

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i shouldnt be speaking

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my character models are 50k as well

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(including clothing)

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:04 PM

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My character models are 10k

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:04 PM

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(without clothing theyre like 20k)

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:05 PM

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icy anchor My character models are 10k

goddam

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super optimized

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:05 PM

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But they are not really detailed too

Godot_v3.5.2-stable_win64_2023-05-08_03-41-03-710.jpg

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:05 PM

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most of it is texturework

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:05 PM

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1 material as well

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:05 PM

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most of mine are modelwork

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:05 PM

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This one maybe 20k, but you know why

Godot_v3.5.2-stable_win64_2023-05-09_00-52-18-371.jpg

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:06 PM

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icy anchor This one maybe 20k, but you know why

that is fancy

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ill see if I can show u one of my previous character models

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one that isnt in my game

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:06 PM

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But this one is also boss-like unit too so rare ones can have more cost to render

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:06 PM

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unique hill ill see if I can show u one of my previous character models

Sure thing, i'd see them

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:06 PM

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unique hill my character models are 50k as well

How much of them are you going to render at once?

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I usually try to stay somewhere at 10-12 NPCs at once

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:07 PM

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ill show it in dms bc its a unique design

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:07 PM

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Alright

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:07 PM

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icy anchor I usually try to stay somewhere at 10-12 NPCs at once

barely any npcs most of the levels

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about 3-5 maybe

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:07 PM

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unique hill barely any npcs most of the levels

It's great then

icy anchor Sep 18, 2023, 11:07 PM

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unique hill about 3-5 maybe

Uniqueness is great, especially with good level of detail

unique hill Sep 18, 2023, 11:34 PM

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Draw calls down to 500!

thin turret Sep 19, 2023, 1:21 AM

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Game very pretty wow

wooden grail Sep 19, 2023, 5:55 AM

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unique hill it creates a cube tho right

Wait in his code, the glAddVertex() function was called 3 times (= 3 vertices), how can it be a cube 😄

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500 is still a lot but its getting better

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Try to bake the multiple materials in Blender (multiple surfaces) into one single diffuse texture

unique hill Sep 19, 2023, 12:17 PM

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wooden grail Wait in his code, the `glAddVertex()` function was called 3 times (= 3 vertices)...

💀

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I dunno how I ended up at a cube

unique hill Sep 19, 2023, 12:18 PM

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wooden grail Try to bake the multiple materials in Blender (multiple surfaces) into one singl...

i dont have anything intensive that would need that

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plus all the materials are made in godot

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blender just has flat colors

icy anchor Sep 19, 2023, 12:31 PM

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unique hill blender just has flat colors

But if you'd have to bake multiple materials to one, you won't be able to do it in Godot, so Blender one love

icy anchor Sep 19, 2023, 12:31 PM

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unique hill i dont have anything intensive that would need that

I love new debug HUD, what's up with vertex count though?

unique hill Sep 19, 2023, 12:32 PM

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icy anchor I love new debug HUD, what's up with vertex count though?

oop dam

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I forgot that

icy anchor Sep 19, 2023, 12:33 PM

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unique hill Draw calls down to 500!

Congratulations with lowering the drawcalls

unique hill Sep 19, 2023, 12:33 PM

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I merged the buildings in blender and it worked better

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got me confused about what multimeshes would be used for now

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abt 900mb of vram used

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706 of that are textures

icy anchor Sep 19, 2023, 12:34 PM

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unique hill got me confused about what multimeshes would be used for now

It can be handy for grass, but even in this case i'm not really sure

unique hill Sep 19, 2023, 12:34 PM

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icy anchor It can be handy for grass, but even in this case i'm not really sure

no but for grass you can just use a particle system

icy anchor Sep 19, 2023, 12:34 PM

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unique hill 706 of that are textures

Shader cache can preserve some memory, but you gotta check project settings. In Godot 3.5.2, i have 512 MB used for it

icy anchor Sep 19, 2023, 12:35 PM

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unique hill no but for grass you can just use a particle system

Yea, it sounds as nicer way too

unique hill Sep 19, 2023, 12:35 PM

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odd

unique hill Sep 19, 2023, 4:33 PM

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thin turret Game very pretty wow

ty ty

icy anchor Sep 20, 2023, 11:01 PM

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@unique hill hey pal, today i've discovered a really weird fact about Godot, not sure if it is still true for 4.x, but i recommend checking it out. So, i've noticed that my textures are quite blurry (especially when you look at them at certain angle). All this time i thought i just screwed up it on my own, but turns out that it is a problem related to anisotropic filtering. You may say that you have it enabled in project settings, and, yea, i had it too. BUT: You gotta enable it in texture import settings too, so, i highly recommend to check if you have it enabled too. If you don't, i also recommend setting it as default option for textures to be enabled for all future ones

unique hill Sep 20, 2023, 11:28 PM

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icy anchor <@768617735591821352> hey pal, today i've discovered a really weird fact about G...

i'll check, it makes sense though since anistropic filtering is designed specifically for wacky angles

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I think its fine

icy anchor Sep 21, 2023, 8:57 AM

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unique hill I think its fine

Damn, i'm so damn glad they removed "anisotropic" setting

icy anchor Sep 21, 2023, 6:04 PM

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@unique hill i'm really sad that i can't help you much regarding the loading screen thing. In 3.5.2., ResourceLoader doesn't have much of that modern stuff (at least for now). Knowing that i can't fix it all, i just decided to turn it to feature. Loading screen having freezes, making it look glitchy? So, why not to turn entire thing to glitchy stuff

This may be a bit over exaggerated example, but this is what i mean (recorded during freezes)

unique hill Sep 21, 2023, 6:24 PM

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icy anchor <@768617735591821352> i'm really sad that i can't help you much regarding the lo...

interesting

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I think I know a way to not lag it

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Instead what I would do

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is create a new thread

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and run the resource loader func on that one

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and when its done I just free the thread

icy anchor Sep 21, 2023, 6:28 PM

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Sounds like a nice way, like, something they should've done with that third argument

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