code-discussion

[cinder mulch]

I mean like what

Commit history?

[left kite]

Version control with branching

[cinder mulch]

That’s all I can think off

[cinder mulch]

I suppose

[left kite]

Roblox's version control is just linear

[cinder mulch]

Mhm

[wraith creek]

What does that mean

[cinder mulch]

God but I hate rebasing and merging branches

🙏

[cinder mulch]

You can only go forward

[wraith creek]

Damn I have a lot to learn

[cinder mulch]

Like you bee working at multiple versions of a project at the same time

[left kite]

Think of it as alternate timelines.

Linear just means a single timeline

[cinder mulch]

YOO I was just about to say that

[wraith creek]

Could u give an example please

[cinder mulch]

Have you watched Loki @left kite

[left kite]

I have :D

[cinder mulch]

Just like what’s in Loki

[fickle python]

i need cool status effect suggestions to test this system i made

https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-fire-flames-hot-gif-7599056546983191152

[cinder mulch]

Have you used other scripting languages

[wraith creek]

Yeah

[left kite]

Lets say I want to test out an experimental change. I can make a new branch and do the change on just that branch. That way I can continue to modify and test on the main branch without having to worry about my experimental changes impacting it. Then when I decide the experimental changes are going to make sense and work, I can merge them back into the main branch.

[cinder mulch]

Yeah that’s about it

It’s also very good when you have a lot of people

One person can work on one thing without messing up somone else’s work

Then merge once each person is done

(I also hate merging)

[fickle python]

honestly i have no clue how people even organize themselves to work with several other scripters

[wraith creek]

Oh shitttttt I see

[cinder mulch]

I mean it’s using GIT

That’s how I would do it

[wraith creek]

Aii but since I’m working alone I’ll just make another place in Roblox

Thanks guys

[cinder mulch]

NP

[left kite]

You just assign systems or tasks to people. Ideally you have some lead, that organizes and tells people what needs to be done.

[cinder mulch]

Mhm

It is annoying though when other people have different coding styles

This one guy on a project just won’t use fucking modules

[fickle python]

i mean yeah but when it comes to game dev i feel like past a certain point like defining a general structure everyone has their own way of coding things
like I'm working with only one other scripter and yet the way we do it is that if i say I'm gonna be making the combat that means i will make the entire combat system without him making any changes to it

[wraith creek]

Ima start using modules tho

Cuz I ain’t tryna be a weirdo

[cinder mulch]

For small stuff using just regular scripts is fine

Just when it gets bigger it’s better to use modules

[wraith creek]

Yeah but still

[fickle python]

even with modules lmao I'm coding a game using single script architecture and the one time we tried merging a system where i coded half and he coded the other half it took longer to connect both halves together than if we were to do it by ourselves

[wraith creek]

Geneiuely

[cinder mulch]

Yeah, that’s why each person should work on one script

[fickle python]

hopefully i will never have to work with like several other scripters cuz it's actual hell

[cinder mulch]

Well your going to need too if you plan to get a job in programming

[wraith creek]

[cinder mulch]

Or it all gets taken by AI and I’m going to go to collage for nothing

[fickle python]

absolutely not chat

[wraith creek]

ai engineer ✌️

[fickle python]

scripting is like the very last option

[cinder mulch]

yeah that’s the only job Gina be open

I mean this only happens if AI gets much better

[fickle python]

oh dw i already went to college for nothing and failed Algorithms spectacularly but at least i didn't have to pay anything

[cinder mulch]

I’ve tried using it and it still can’t code anything complex

Okay I gotta go to bed

Bye

[fickle python]

yeah for anything remotely complex you spend so much effort making sure the AI doesn't lose context and the structure is robust enough to not lead to future issues that it's more or less the same amount of effort as coding it yourself

[left kite]

And even then you incur significant technical debt because you don't know how the system works unless you read through the entirety of the program.

[fickle python]

exactly

[cinder mulch]

👆🏻

[fickle python]

AI doesn't really help you if you don't know how to code it yourself

[wraith creek]

IMO I think ai should be used in coding but only to help not take over

But that’s my opinion idk

[cinder mulch]

Yeah you have to be able to guide it with the right questions

Maybe later you won’t have too🤷‍♂️ who knows

[left kite]

There is a good Anthropic study on AI usage in programming.

[cinder mulch]

I hope I can still do what I love to do🙏🙏

[wraith creek]

Let’s hope it doesn’t happen in the next 50 years

I doubt it but hope

[cinder mulch]

Yooo you play US soccer

[wraith creek]

yeahh

[cinder mulch]

What league

[wraith creek]

MLS next now

[cinder mulch]

NICE

I’m in EDO

EDO

EDP

[wraith creek]

W

[cinder mulch]

I’m trying to get to ecnl

[wraith creek]

Hope u make it

[cinder mulch]

Thx

[burnt temple]

whats the best way to get real developing experience, like working with others, like real game making experience

[wraith creek]

For me it depends what ur looking for

and where ur at in ur knowledge of coding

But if u want professional

[burnt temple]

i dont think im like beginner beginner

but ik im not like professional level

but i feel like rn the best way for me to get better is experience

[wraith creek]

Alr h should prolly try and work at a studio

[burnt temple]

i want to, but i havent been able to find any to work for that arent some like extremely small thing

[wraith creek]

I see

Do u have a portfolio

[burnt temple]

i do not

i should make that first?

[wraith creek]

yes definitely

[fickle python]

you get real developing experience by developing games

which will most likely flop or never get released till you get good at it

[wraith creek]

Yep

[burnt temple]

i do try and work on games

but then its annoying and time consuming when it comes to needing things like anims, vfx, or builds

[fickle python]

if you want to make sure you are working with a good dev ask them to show you their failed projects

[frail lance]

exactly bruvv

[fickle python]

learn these too

[burnt temple]

i do try to learn

but its hard to like

[wraith creek]

Yeah or if u have money or connections

[burnt temple]

do all this and stay motivated

[wraith creek]

Then

[fickle python]

yeah it might take a few years

[burnt temple]

ontop of other things in my life too

i wanna have a decent game by like a year from now

[fickle python]

the way game dev goes is that your very first skill is the one that will take the longest to get good at

and then it gets progressively easier

so like if you learn modelling you will have a much easier time picking up animation and the other way around is also true

[iron kraken]

ur wise

@fickle python

[fickle python]

with you having zero experience rn? i mean it's doable but like very difficult

[iron kraken]

chopped

[fickle python]

i am sleep deprived

[left kite]

All the skills have there hidden limiting factor. Programming's is problem solving

[burnt temple]

im fine with that

but like i want like a clear path

[left kite]

That's what takes the longest to build

[iron kraken]

there is no clear path

[fickle python]

honestly just start with whatever you find most fun

[burnt temple]

okay

ill try to devote

3 hrs a day

[left kite]

It really just depends on your definition of "decent".

[burnt temple]

well

[fickle python]

plus unless you have alot of money or alot of connections you will end up having to learn almost everything anyways

[burnt temple]

i want to have a game out thats good enough to shine on my college apps

[left kite]

There are plenty of games out there that have HORRIBLE code and assets, but they're fun to play

[fickle python]

true

[burnt temple]

good stat wise

[iron kraken]

low chance

unless ur good at something related to game dev

[burnt temple]

nope

i have been scripting for like a good year now prob

but feel like i havent really moved up a ton

[iron kraken]

are u practicing every day

[burnt temple]

i wouldnt say every day

im not very discplined rn

but ill lock in on that

[fickle python]

just get started on something that is a bit above your current skill level and be too stubborn to give up

your 3 hours a day will quickly turn into 16 hour long workshifts

[iron kraken]

skill issue

[fickle python]

lemme stop procrastinating already and go to sleep

it's day 5 and I'm already dying but i think i can finish the whole game in less than a month

https://tenor.com/view/siffrin-happy-smiling-in-stars-and-time-isat-gif-4428560034660814656

[left kite]

Well how much do you know? Because there is a point where Roblox scripting kind of stops being just learning the Luau syntax and Roblox API. It transitions more into organization and how to build a system that can scale well. At that point it does feel like its hard to move up, while also feeling like there is a TON you don't know

[iron kraken]

i hope i can finish my game bruh

[fickle python]

one script architecture my goat

what the fuck is oop

[burnt temple]

im confident in my knowledge on the syntax

[iron kraken]

at that point u just gotta learn more specific stuff rather than general programming things

[burnt temple]

its def the organization and system stuff

and i feel like

theres so much different things to do

[iron kraken]

use modules

[burnt temple]

i do

[iron kraken]

use oop

[left kite]

I'd argue the opposite. It becomes more learning algorithms, structures, etc. That can be applied generally across most lanugages

[fickle python]

the game I'm making has nothing but modules shit is so meta

[burnt temple]

this is what im currently like learning, ik how it works just not when to apply it and how often

[iron kraken]

u dont always have to make a class for everything yea sometimes a simple table is enough ye

[left kite]

OOP is mainly useful when you want to tie functionality to the state its acting upon

[iron kraken]

just think when u think a class is good because that offers features than just a value in a table

so if u need those features then use it but if not dont

[burnt temple]

okay

how often do you guys use oop

[left kite]

You can get away with not using any custom OOP. Obviously Roblox uses OOP for all of its API, so you're still using it even if you're not making custom classes

In Luau the only difference to having functions to act on passed state, and OOP is that OOP uses metatables to link the functions directly to the state.

[burnt temple]

okay ill keep that in mind

[fresh basalt]

If ur a Scripter and wanting to work on something useful pull req my library… it needs some work

https://github.com/ve1yn/EasyMath

[left kite]

I used to use a ton, which I think is generally the case when you first learn OOP. But the more you use it, the more it does start to feel bloated and unnecessary. Currently I use OOP occasionally when I find it makes sense or helps me organizationally, but its not something I reach for that often.

Functional programming is much easier in a lot of cases and removes the overhead of metatables.

[fresh basalt]

I think coding with a oop mindset should be every luau scripters goal in organization

[fresh basalt]

Functional programming is good in more simpler cases

Coding w a oop mindset is gonna help you reuse a lot of your code for a lot of different systems

[burnt temple]

okay ill keep this in mind

thanks guys

[left kite]

The thing is, the Roblox API is already mainly OOP. It's very common from what I've seen for people to take some instance and then wrap it in their own class just for the sake of adding a couple states to it. People wildly overuse OOP

[fresh basalt]

I agree

Tbh it’s whatever makes it easier for YOU and your team to understand

[left kite]

Why are you passing self for these functions? EasyMath.Tween:Hover()

[chilly canyon]

Poo

[left kite]

If I wanted to delay that tween operation for example using task.delay I'd have to do:

task.delay(DURATION, EasyMath.Tween.Hover, EasyMath.Tween, ...) --> ... being the arguments required

[left kite]

Bad example, but you get where I'm coming from lol

[fresh basalt]

I’m passing it vecause I’m gonna use self in future

[left kite]

Personally, this looks like what we were just talking about. Not a case for OOP lol

[fresh basalt]

it’s a work in progress but its lowk also a Habit

I want to also add Per-tween configuration so

[left kite]

ahh ok, I was just wondering lol

[fresh basalt]

I’m gonna use self

[fresh basalt]

You should totally pull request n make it better it’s open source

[left kite]

I'll look through. Doesn't look like something I'd necessarily use, so idk if I'd contribute because I don't really understand goal here. But maybe the pathfinder stuff, haven't looked at that yet.

[wide rapids]

Im not sure how, but when i hit an object and ragdoll, it lag anyone have idea why

[fresh basalt]

It’s like 3% done it’s gonna be a whole math library so things like advanced pathfinding, tweening, curves, and anything having to do w calculations

[iron kraken]

eeeeeee

[fresh basalt]

Horror games def, custom physics, any game w procedural movement, npcs, etc…

Js for devs who wanna save time

I’m also wanting the tweens to detect anything including like camera (for camera shakes or tweens)

[left kite]

Most of the tween stuff is just simple wrappers for TweenService, which isn't ideal especially when its making decisions like fading both text and background for GuiObjects.

[fresh basalt]

Ik ofc tween module isnt close to done but it’s only the start

I’m ofc gonna implement better functions and expand on the current ones to make it’s use flexible

[left kite]

I'm not saying it looks unfinished, I'm just saying I don't really understand why I'd give up the finer control of TweenService to use a module that I still have to enter most of the values for anyway.

[fresh basalt]

For more advanced tweens or multiple looped tweens

Something like a sin tween w a hover tween would take longer than js typing in the values u want the functions to do

Just tell the hover function from here to here and rotate this much (or infinitely) at this speed

[left kite]

I'm mainly referring to the wrapper functions, I think those should be dropped probably. Let people use the module for the more complicated stuff, while enforcing they use TweenService for the simpler things.

If you have functions like that you're going to have people using them unknowingly adding unneccessary overhead for things they can easily just do with TweenService.

Creating bad patterns.

[mild cloak]

You’ve been at ts for like 5 hours

[left kite]

For like 30 minutes :3

[mild cloak]

Not even you started yapping at the start of my shift

[left kite]

Ohh just in general

Not about this specifically

Started talking like 2 hours ago

[mild cloak]

Boi it’s been 5 hours

[left kite]

almost 2

[mild cloak]

No

Just about 5

[left kite]

[iron kraken]

https://media.tenor.com/QtGqjwBpRzwAAAAi/wumpus-dancing.gif

[left kite]

Sent my first message 5 hours ago if thats what you're talking about..

But I wouldn't say I've been active in the chat for that long lol

[mild cloak]

Yes you have bro

[left kite]

🫡 YES SIR

[fresh basalt]

ik people can usually USE tween service but the important part is that its going to be SAFER, gives more control, and simpler to use, even for a fade out function, something like fading out a frame (with like alot of children) in tweenservice is going to be way more work than just doing the :FadeOut using the module. its why people use ProfileService over Datastoreservice (if they are serious about making games). because overall its safer and gives more control

[fresh basalt]

locked in

[mild cloak]

I am

[fresh basalt]

no.

[left kite]

I guess I'll just have to see when more work has been put into it

[fresh basalt]

HE is locked in

[fresh basalt]

yes 🙏

[twilit steeple]

simpleNet.listenServer("buyItem", function(plr, itemName)
    local itemData = shopItems[itemName]
    if not itemData then return end
    
    if itemData.product then
        MPS:PromptProductPurchase(plr, itemData.product)
        return
    end
    
    if dataService.getData(plr, "Coins") < itemData.price then return end
    dataService.incrementData(plr, "Coins", -itemData.price)
    dataService.addOrIncrementData(plr, "inventory."..itemName, 1)
    AS:LogCustomEvent(plr, "Buy Item", itemName)
end)

Is this the correct way of using analytics service? itemName is a string.

[fresh basalt]

its only been like a week project rn cs i got work n school i barely got time to work on it

[left kite]

Like I said, I don't really see the vision. But if you've got this big idea I'm not going to get in your way. Innovate and make that shit happen

[fresh basalt]

LogCustomEvent does not take a raw string as the third argument.

something like

use a table

AS:LogCustomEvent(plr, "Buy Item", {
item = itemName,
})

[twilit steeple]

To fade out alot of ui elements just put them in a canvas group

[twilit steeple]

Alright thank you

is there a thank command here?

[left kite]

https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/AnalyticsService#LogCustomEvent
Takes a number as the third argument

[fresh basalt]

ik but what if you want to control different parts at different times accross the game

im making the tween module so you're able to control tweens better and so it saves u the work

[iron kraken]

#⭐creations message
what do u think about this

[left kite]

Very neat :D

[twilit steeple]

I guess thats good then

[iron kraken]

tghanks boss

[fresh basalt]

im lowk working on it rn

ill brb

in like 2h

[left kite]

I'm assuming the white means inactive, in terms of navigation? Why do some of the ones at the back turn white? Standing still for too long because of the ones in front of it?

[iron kraken]

they turn white if the target is not moving and they are not making enough progress quickly towards the target

then they just walk in a straight line to target instead and stop when they hit something in front of it

[left kite]

Are you using any neat algorithms? I was working on something similar a little while back, and I just used a module for flow fields because I couldn't be bothered to implement it myself.

[iron kraken]

still seems kinda scuffed idk if it will look good because there is a lot of pushing around so maybe i can reduce that and also at 200 boids it starts to lag

[iron kraken]

i use boids

[left kite]

Ahhh okk

[iron kraken]

and based it on sebastian lague code

https://github.com/SebLague/Boids/tree/master/Assets/Scripts

its not that crazy but theres just 4 properties of boids

target steering
alignment steering
cohesion steering
avoidance steering

also his is 3d mine is 2d so its more simple

[fresh basalt]

FREAK

@left kite u made me rethink how im gonna code it now ima js restart ..

[somber imp]

just made this script that makes the button explode when you click it 25 times, please be brutally honest because i am just starting and i want to make it as professional and as good as possible how bad is it

game.Players.PlayerAdded:Connect(function(player)
    local leaderstats = Instance.new("IntValue", player)
    leaderstats.Name = "leaderstats"
    local clicks = Instance.new("IntValue", leaderstats)
    clicks.Name = "Clicks"
    clicks.Value = 0
    
    local function click()
        game.Workspace.button.Size = Vector3.new(0.19, 0.922, 2)
        clicks.Value += 1
        wait(0.25)
        game.Workspace.button.Size = Vector3.new(0.456, 0.922, 2)
    end
    
    game.Workspace.button.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(click)
    
    while clicks.Value <= 25 do
        wait()
        if clicks.Value >= 25 then
            local explosion =Instance.new("Explosion", game.Workspace)
            explosion.Position = Vector3.new(0.661, 3.033, -1.616)
            wait()
            game.Workspace.button:Destroy()
            game.Workspace.Part:Destroy()
            game.Workspace.part:Destroy()
        end
    end
end)

also the button goes up and down when you click it

[fresh basalt]

okay

brutally honest

[somber imp]

yes please

[fresh basalt]

You bind the ClickDetector inside PlayerAdded

[somber imp]

like i know its terrible

[fresh basalt]

This is a huge logic flaw

[somber imp]

so how does it work

[fresh basalt]

You destroy three parts with hard‑coded names also

[somber imp]

cus im hella confused

[somber imp]

ive been hearing that word alot what is logic in scripting

[fresh basalt]

the issue is that your logic is in the wrong place and your structure is fighting you. move all button related logic out of PlayerAdded, because connecting a ClickDetector inside that event multiplies connections per player and breaks the click count. treat the button as a single global object with a single click handler, and treat leaderstats as perplayer data that shouldn’t control global destruction. replace your while loop with a .Changed or threshold check so you aren’t polling every frame. n PLEASE avoid hard‑coded Workspace references. js store the button, parts, and explosion position in variables or use relative positions so the script doesn’t break when the workspace/map changes. And finally, visual effects should be on the client for the button press animation so it feels smooth n doesn’t lag.

[left kite]

All of programming is logic lol

[somber imp]

yea but like what exactly IS it

[left kite]

It's basically the same as the ordinary meaning for logic. It's just reasoning.
If this then that

[somber imp]

gotcha

[deft coral]

in coding there are two main things that happen, data and procedures. data is stuff, and procedures are what you do with the stuff

logic refers to the procedures part, saying "this is a logic flaw" is saying the steps you're taking in manipulating your data are flawed, you're solving your problem wrong

[somber imp]

so like theres a better way to do it

like if i was adding 1 to 1 in math instead of subtracting 1 and adding 2 i can just add 1

[deft coral]

yes exactly

[somber imp]

ok gotcha

im like really new to this so i dont know any of the better ways to do stuff

i literally just now found out what tables do

[deft coral]

thats fine

[somber imp]

local button = {game.Workspace.button, game.Workspace.Part, game.Workspace.part
}

first time using that

then made it

button:Destroy()

[somber imp]

yo is this better

local button = {game.Workspace.button, game.Workspace.Part, game.Workspace.part
}

game.Players.PlayerAdded:Connect(function(player)
    local leaderstats = Instance.new("IntValue", player)
    leaderstats.Name = "leaderstats"
    local clicks = Instance.new("IntValue", leaderstats)
    clicks.Name = "Clicks"
    clicks.Value = 0
end)

game.Workspace.button.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function(player)
    
    local clicks = player.leaderstats.clicks
    
    while clicks.Value <= 25 do
        wait()
        if clicks.Value >= 25 then
            local explosion =Instance.new("Explosion", game.Workspace)
            explosion.Position = Vector3.new(0.661, 3.033, -1.616)
            wait()
            button:Destroy()
        end
    end
end)

[left kite]

I wouldn't really say its about doing it a better way, even though there is. A "logic flaw" or "logic error" is when you think your code is doing one thing when its actually doing something else.

[somber imp]

game.Players.PlayerAdded:Connect(function(player)
    local leaderstats = Instance.new("IntValue", player)
    leaderstats.Name = "leaderstats"
    local clicks = Instance.new("IntValue", leaderstats)
    clicks.Name = "Clicks"
    clicks.Value = 0
    
    local function click()
        game.Workspace.button.Size = Vector3.new(0.19, 0.922, 2)
        clicks.Value += 1
        wait(0.25)
        game.Workspace.button.Size = Vector3.new(0.456, 0.922, 2)
    end
    
    game.Workspace.button.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(click)
    
    while clicks.Value <= 25 do
        wait()
        if clicks.Value >= 25 then
            local explosion =Instance.new("Explosion", game.Workspace)
            explosion.Position = Vector3.new(0.661, 3.033, -1.616)
            wait()
            game.Workspace.button:Destroy()
            game.Workspace.Part:Destroy()
            game.Workspace.part:Destroy()
        end
    end
end)

this is the original code which i see now i shouldve made all the destroyed things into one variable, and taking all of the click stuff out of the playeradded function but it does do the same thing right

[left kite]

Nope.

[left kite]

You can't call Destroy() like that on the table there

[deft coral]

where'd he do that

[left kite]

^^

[deft coral]

oh the top one

[somber imp]

what happens if i do that

[left kite]

Error

[deft coral]

itll throw an error

[somber imp]

how do i fix it + make it still clean

[left kite]

It'll say attempt to call nil value or something

[deft coral]

tables are like containers, in fact you can kinda extrapolate tables to being everything.

its a list of stuff, you didnt put Destroy in it

so when you try to use it, itll error saying it couldnt find Destroy

[somber imp]

but i cant make it just destroy all that?

[deft coral]

you gotta do whats called a loop

[somber imp]

yea ive been using while loops a lot

but thats all i know

[deft coral]

this one is a for loop

for _, obj in (table) do
obj:Destroy()
end

itll go thru the table one thing at a table and run the code for each thing, assigning the variable obj in place for that thing at that place

[somber imp]

ive never used for and whats the blank

[deft coral]

the blank is the key the object is at in the table

you can make it a variable but since urs is an array its pointless, itll just be a number and not necessary to what ur doing

[left kite]

Lua/Luau is nice because the syntax is very english-like.
This is saying:
For each key/index (_) and value (obj) in this table (table) do YOUR CODE BLOCK

[deft coral]

its funny because the original way was doing table.foreach lol

[somber imp]

local button = {game.Workspace.button, game.Workspace.Part, game.Workspace.part
}
game.Players.PlayerAdded:Connect(function(player)
    local leaderstats = Instance.new("IntValue", player)
    leaderstats.Name = "leaderstats"
    local clicks = Instance.new("IntValue", leaderstats)
    clicks.Name = "Clicks"
    clicks.Value = 0
end)

game.Workspace.button.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function(player)
    
    local clicks = player.leaderstats.clicks
    
    while clicks.Value <= 25 do
        wait()
        if clicks.Value >= 25 then
            local explosion =Instance.new("Explosion", game.Workspace)
            explosion.Position = Vector3.new(0.661, 3.033, -1.616)
            wait()
            for _, obj in (table) do
                obj:Destroy()
            end
        end
    end
end)

ok so this is what i got right now

[deft coral]

u cant just copy and paste homie

it dont know what (table) is that was a placeholder

u gotta put ur table there

[somber imp]

oh i literally thought it was exactly that

ok so i put button there

[deft coral]

yes

otherwise it dont know what table u want it to go thru

[somber imp]

for _, obj in button do
    obj:Destroy()
end

[deft coral]

ya

[left kite]

Roblox has documentation for a lot of the Luau syntax, here is the link for for-loops:
https://create.roblox.com/docs/luau/control-structures#for-loops

[somber imp]

is that a good thing to do

like just go and look at the forum for lua and just learn stuff

[left kite]

Yeah

[deft coral]

why wouldnt it be

"is it good to read abovut the thing im trying to learn"

[somber imp]

i didnt know if it was like too complicated or something

[deft coral]

lol

[somber imp]

if they like overcomplicated things

[left kite]

The Roblox documention is pretty good

Its not all that complex, they do a good job at giving examples and explaining things that are commonly used

[deft coral]

yeah they dumb it down p well

even if sometimes theyre literally incorrect but

generally they fix it

[left kite]

You can fix it

[fresh basalt]

progress for my tween module for the math library... only 28 lines of code!!!!!

[wicked palm]

yo

[fresh basalt]

also added camera shake n camera rotationsss

[left kite]

Its all open source, anyone can make a pull request to fix something that is incorrect. Pretty goated

[wicked palm]

can anyone help me make like money or something like how steal a brainrot does?

[left kite]

I have no idea what that is lol

[deft coral]

u right cuz i cant even find it on their github

ive seen this before though

like ten years ago

does it have to do with the camera

[wicked palm]

could any1 help me

[deft coral]

ah

probably when their voxel stuff was new and they were gonna do some funny stuff

[wicked palm]

could anyone help me make a pick up system rq?

[deft coral]

this is cold help not code do it for you

[fresh basalt]

local EM = require(ReplicatedStorage.EasyMath.EasyMath)
local T = EM.Tween

local cam = workspace.CurrentCamera
local part = workspace.TweenPart

local s = part.Position + Vector3.new(0, 1, 0)
local e = part.Position + Vector3.new(0, 3, 0)

T:Hover(part, s, e, -1, 1)
T:Rotate(part, -1, 0.5)

task.delay(1, function()
    T:CameraShake(cam, {
        magnitude = 2,
        roughness = 30,
        rotation = 4,
        fadeIn = 0.2,
        fadeOut = 0.5,
        duration = 2
    })
end)

task.delay(2, function()
    T:Move(part, Vector3.new(5, 0, 0), 1)
    T:Scale(part, 1.5, 1)
end)

task.delay(3.5, function()
    T:FadeOutTree(part, 2)
end)

task.delay(6, function()
    T:FadeIn(part, 2)
end)

task.delay(7, function()
    T:Rotate(cam, -1, 0.2)
end)

task.delay(8, function()
    T:Move(cam, Vector3.new(0, 0, -5), 1)
end)

local ui = Players.LocalPlayer:WaitForChild("PlayerGui"):FindFirstChild("CommandUI")
if ui then
    local f = ui:FindFirstChild("CommandFrame")
    if f then
        T:Rotate(f, -1, 1)
        T:FadeInTree(f, 1)
    end
end

[wicked palm]

bro what

[deft coral]

thats brutal LMAO

[somber imp]

hey so uh in the for loop the explosion just keeps exploding forever how do i fix that

[deft coral]

not sure ngl

[fresh basalt]

this does this:

1. Hover (infinite)

2. Rotate (infinite)

3. CameraShake (timed)

4. Moves

5. Scales

6. Fades out

7. Fades In

8. CameraRotates (infinite)

9. CameraMoves

10. UI Rotates (infinite)

11. UI Fades In

[somber imp]

if clicks.Value >= 25 then
    local explosion =Instance.new("Explosion", game.Workspace)
    explosion.Position = Vector3.new(0.661, 3.033, -1.616)
    wait()
    for _, obj in button do
        obj:Destroy()
    end
    print("boom")
end

[deft coral]

horrors beyond comprehension rn

[somber imp]

thats the code btw

[fresh basalt]

??? it saves 300 lines of code n looks bad ..

yo is hidden devs serious anymore

[somber imp]

how do i make it loop only once instead of over and over again

[fresh basalt]

they dont its supposed to be a module inside of a library

[left kite]

ApplyToTree(method, ...properties)

[fresh basalt]

i like this

yes

but wait

that lowk js makes it way more complicated n harder to read

[somber imp]

chat how do i make this loop only once instead of over and over again

for _, obj in button do
    obj:Destroy()
end

[fresh basalt]

...

[somber imp]

i havnt gotten that far yet

[fresh basalt]

table.clear

[deft coral]

wdym

[somber imp]

after it hits 25 clicks it nonstop explodes

instead of once

[fresh basalt]

it doesnt

the threads come from the module itself

thats js the test script

Only procedural effects create Heartbeat loops

and they disconnect respectively

[somber imp]

oh yea whats the difference between wait() and task.wait()

[fresh basalt]

yes i guess you are right

you should pull request the git

https://github.com/ve1yn/EasyMath/

1.0.6 out as of

0.1 seconds ago

[halcyon talon]

How do i get better at scripting(p.s ive been tryna script a door first person system and its pain) 🙏

[deft coral]

seems more like ur usage of it

not the module

[somber imp]

local button = {game.Workspace.button, game.Workspace.Part, game.Workspace.part
}

script.Parent.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function(player)

local clicks = player.leaderstats.Clicks
    local explosions = 0
    clicks.Value += 1
    print("Clicked!")
    
    while clicks.Value <= 25 do
        task.wait()
        if clicks.Value == 25 then
            local explosion =Instance.new("Explosion", game.Workspace)
            explosion.Position = Vector3.new(0.661, 3.033, -1.616)
            print("boom")
                for _, obj in button do
                    obj:Destroy()
                break
            end
        end
    end
end)

so how do i make the explosion stop exploding over and over again and just make it explode one time

[somber imp]

many ways you need to find one that works for u

[fresh basalt]

wdym

[twilit sapphire]

you guys are smart pls help

[tight hatch]

how do you pass highschool without being able to do this

[deft coral]

whats the answer then

[tight hatch]

1 sec I am in ms paint

[iron kraken]

area of parallelogram is base times height

[twilit sapphire]

i can do it just cba

[iron kraken]

cuz u can just cut off the right part and put it on the left part and its a rectangle

[twilit sapphire]

its for a triangle m8

the formula you said

[iron kraken]

then use soh cah toa on the right triangle to find the angle

[twilit sapphire]

b x h divided by 2

[deft coral]

its arcsin(area/(a*b)

[twilit sapphire]

thats not what were doing here

[iron kraken]

ik

[twilit sapphire]

we need to find the thetir

[iron kraken]

it says find tehta

[twilit sapphire]

or wtv its called

the weird looking 0

[iron kraken]

but u ahve the area

[deft coral]

theta isnt a right angle so

[tight hatch]

nvm dont need ms paint

got lazy

anyway

[twilit sapphire]

just say the answer

smart cookie

[tight hatch]

perpendicular to the 6.8 side

[deft coral]

its 47.281

[iron kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447991830737326133/1447992155397292183/caption.gif

[tight hatch]

arcsin( 24.48/(6.8x4.9))

[twilit sapphire]

it says to 1 d.p

[left kite]

I'd imagine these exercises are meant to help ingrain these concepts into your head, no? Why else would you be doing them. Asking someone else for the answer defeats the purpose lol

[deft coral]

p sure its arcsin not arccos

[tight hatch]

wait yeah mb

[deft coral]

granted i just did that and it didnt work

[tight hatch]

its arcsin

[twilit sapphire]

no one does it

[tight hatch]

mb I am dumb

[twilit sapphire]

and its compulsory

[tight hatch]

anyways the reason I am in this channel

[twilit sapphire]

when i mean no one does it i mean like they dont like work it out just ai it

[tight hatch]

guys what is the best networking library

[deft coral]

"our education and culture is going to shit so i might as well also go to shit"

[tight hatch]

there are so many like ByteNet, Zap, Blink etc. it's hard to choose

[deft coral]

yk maybe the nukes are a good idea

[tight hatch]

I know there is no one size fits all but

[twilit sapphire]

you die aswell

[left kite]

And then when they get to a problem like that on a test or exam they're screwed.

[tight hatch]

certain have to be better under specific constraints

[twilit sapphire]

i mean

[somber imp]

IT FINALLY WORKS

[twilit sapphire]

you guys really sounding like my parents huh

[somber imp]

local button = {game.Workspace.button, game.Workspace.Part, game.Workspace.part
}

script.Parent.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function(player)

local clicks = player.leaderstats.Clicks
    local explosions = 0
    clicks.Value += 1
    print("Clicked!")
    
    while clicks.Value <= 25 do
        task.wait()
        
        if clicks.Value == 25 then
            
            local explosion =Instance.new("Explosion", game.Workspace)
            explosion.Position = Vector3.new(0.661, 3.033, -1.616)
            print("boom")
            for _, obj in button do
                obj:Destroy()
            end    
            break
        end
    end
end)

[deft coral]

zap is p eazy, they are all comaparable in performance

[left kite]

Its just pointing out the obvious lmao

[twilit sapphire]

ok boss

[iron kraken]

rah

[twilit sapphire]

im stuck at a stalemate here cant do nun

[deft coral]

hey dont run me

[tight hatch]

not my font, 0/10

[deft coral]

not my font, 0/10

[somber imp]

whys it look like that

[twilit sapphire]

is cos-1 arccos

ok

[fleet silo]

Cross product foreshadowing

[autumn hull]

Try Jet Brains Mono

[fleet silo]

You can just use the fact the magnitude of the cross product is the area of a parallelogram

You know the adjacent sides, you know the area, you can use the formula Area = |a| |b| sin theta

[chilly canyon]

Yessir

[radiant venture]

son so are we gonna keep gate keeping

[tight hatch]

I don't think it is possible in default chat window

except for emojis, you will have to create your own chat window

[radiant venture]

so i know it's possible

and i've seen dev forums on it i just don't understand it

[left kite]

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/premium-verified-and-robux-unicode-characters/2175425

[plush zenith]

im making custom characters/replication for my game and implemented resizable buffers 🥴

[chilly canyon]

Yessir

[chilly canyon]

Why

[radiant venture]

thanks

[chilly canyon]

Np

[plush zenith]

im gonna be dispatching the server state to multiple clients via a buffer and when players leave, i also want the buffer to shrink to avoid wasting extra bytes

with 1 or 2 players it doesn't matter that much, but with 8+ it does

[somber imp]

just went from this

local function jump1()
    game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump1.Anchored = false
    game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump1.Transparency = 0.5
end

game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump1.Touched:Connect(jump1)

local function jump2()
    game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump2.Anchored = false
    game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump2.Transparency = 0.5
end

game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump2.Touched:Connect(jump2)

local function jump3()
    game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump3.Anchored = false
    game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump3.Transparency = 0.5
end

game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump3.Touched:Connect(jump3)

local function jump4()
    game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump4.Anchored = false
    game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump4.Transparency = 0.5
end

game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump4.Touched:Connect(jump4)

to this

local jumps = {game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump1,game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump2,game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump3,game.Workspace.obby.jumps.jump4}

for _, part in pairs(jumps) do
    part.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
        part.Anchored = false
        part.Transparency = 0.5
    end)
end

whos proud of me

[chilly canyon]

Coolio 😎

[chilly canyon]

Dawg 🥀

[plush zenith]

good job on finding out about for loops

[somber imp]

dawg

thanks dawg

ts the first time ive used it

[plush zenith]

are you a new scripter

[somber imp]

yes very new

[chilly canyon]

Same

[plush zenith]

nice! keep going, you will get better

[chilly canyon]

Ty

[somber imp]

yea i hope so that first script was horrendous

[thick loom]

Type Error: (273,16) Expected this to be
'RBXScriptSignal' from 'Roblox'
but got
'RBXScriptSignal' from 'Roblox'

[chilly canyon]

yessir

[somber imp]

yea i defidently know what that means

[thick loom]

trove:Connect(CollectionService:GetInstanceAddedSignal(Constants.OneWayPlatform.Tag), function(platform)
self:_onOneWayPlatformAdded(platform)
end)

[icy dew]

Are there only 4 jumps? As in, are you changing them all?

[thick loom]

my trove accepts rbx signals normally..

[somber imp]

so basically if you touch one jump that jump falls into the lava

so it gets unanchored as your jumping to the next

and as you touch each one they get unanchored

[plush zenith]

impossible to help you if you dont provide pictures of ur code...its like asking someone to help you move some boxes but you don't actually show them the boxes

[somber imp]

the jumps btw

[plush zenith]

my bad, you did send it. was just hard to find

[icy dew]

You could do

for _, part in pairs(workspace.obby.jumps:GetChildren()) do


end```

[plush zenith]

i have not used trove in a long time...

[somber imp]

just switch that out for this part?

for _, part in pairs(jumps) do
    part.Touched:Connect(function(hit)

    end)
end

[thick loom]

local types = require(script.types)
local Trove = {}
Trove.__index = Trove

-- Type exports
export type TroveT = types.Trove

--[[ -- TYPE DEFINITIONS
--_objects: {any},
--_cleaned: boolean,
---- Function type definitions
--Add: (self: Trove, object: any) -> (),
--Connect:(signal: {Connect: (any, (...any) -> ()) -> any}, handler: (...any) -> ()): any,
....
[...]

function Trove:Connect(signal: {Connect: (any, (...any) -> ()) -> any}, handler: (...any) -> ()): any
if self._cleaned then
return nil
end

local connection = signal:Connect(function(...)
    if not self._cleaned then
        handler(...)
    end
end)

self:Add(connection)
return connection

end

[..]

Works like a charm.

Everytime i use it in a platform script for which the source code was refactored FROM ROBLOX. it compiles with type errors. it runs normally but i know that for some reasons types dont match exactly..

[icy dew]

Yeah and you can remove the jumps table. Just switch out the stuff inside “pairs()”

[plush zenith]

ima format ur code better

local types = require(script.types)
local Trove = {}
Trove.__index = Trove

-- Type exports
export type TroveT = types.Trove

--TYPE DEFINITIONS
--_objects: {any},
--_cleaned: boolean,
---- Function type definitions
--Add: (self: Trove, object: any) -> (),
--Connect:(signal: {Connect: (any, (...any) -> ()) -> any}, handler: (...any) -> ()): any,

function Trove:Connect(signal: {Connect: (any, (...any) -> ()) -> any}, handler: (...any) -> ()): any
    if self._cleaned then
        return nil
    end

    local connection = signal:Connect(function(...)
        if not self._cleaned then
            handler(...)
        end
    end)

    self:Add(connection)
    return connection
end

now that it looks better ima take a look at it

[somber imp]

when i do that the parts automatically all fall as soon as i load in

for _, part in pairs(workspace.obby.jumps:GetChildren()) do
        part.Anchored = false
        part.Transparency = 0.5
end

[plush zenith]

(if you wanna format it like that, do this)

[thick loom]

for some rason HD dont trust me even to send code

'''lua
whatt
'''

[plush zenith]

no, not quotations.

[somber imp]

use `

[plush zenith]

the backtick key

[plush zenith]

beside the 1 button

[chilly canyon]

.__tostring

[plush zenith]

you can do it!!!

[chilly canyon]

Which metamethod do you think is useful?

[plush zenith]

all of them, it depends on what ur using em for

@thick loom remove the type casting from Trove:Connect

[chilly canyon]

Yessir

[icy dew]

Keep all the stuff inside the for loop that you had

[thick loom]

if only, i in agurate (:>)

[thick loom]

Trove doesnt compile with errors

[plush zenith]

never said it did. im just trying to figure out why it's giving out weird type errors

[somber imp]

why am i getting errors for this code saying

"Humanoid is not a valid member of Accessory "Workspace.Xezls2Alt.Back""
"Humanoid is not a valid member of Accessory "Workspace.Xezls2Alt.Neck""
etc with all my accessories and hair

lava = script.Parent

lava.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
    hit.Parent:FindFirstChild("Humanoid")
    hit.Parent.Humanoid.Health = 0
end)

lava.CanCollide = false
lava.Anchored = true

but it works fine making me die

[plush zenith]

oh hey you finally did it!

[wary cairn]

do :WaitForChild

and also

[plush zenith]

because the touched event is firing for the accessories, you need to reference the character instead

[somber imp]

instead of :FindFirstChild?

[somber imp]

how do i do that

[plush zenith]

use hit:FindFirstAncestorOfClass("Model") to get the character

i think i spelt ancestor wrong...

[wary cairn]

yeah cuz it might not have loaded when the script fires, and also identify Humanoid first

[plush zenith]

how do you spell it again?

[wary cairn]

and use if hit.Parent == Humanoid then

[thick loom]

ive used in a movement system + UI framework.. My PlatformServiceModule is acting up

    -- Use Trove for cleanup management
    local trove = self._trove
    if not trove then return end

    -- MOVING PLATFORMS: Connect CollectionService signals
    trove:Connect(CollectionService:GetInstanceAddedSignal(Constants.MovingPlatform.Tag), function(platform)
        self:_onMovingPlatformAdded(platform)
    end)---Compiles with Type Error

    trove:Connect(CollectionService:GetInstanceRemovedSignal(Constants.MovingPlatform.Tag), function(platform)
        self:_onMovingPlatformRemoved(platform)
    end)---Compiles with Type Error

    -- Initialize existing moving platforms
    for _, platform in CollectionService:GetTagged(Constants.MovingPlatform.Tag) do
        self:_onMovingPlatformAdded(platform)
    end

    -- ONE-WAY PLATFORMS: Connect CollectionService signal
    trove:Connect(CollectionService:GetInstanceAddedSignal(Constants.OneWayPlatform.Tag), function(platform)
        self:_onOneWayPlatformAdded(platform)
    end) ---Compiles with Type Error

And the type error is
Type Error: (259,16) Expected this to be
'RBXScriptSignal' from 'Roblox'
but got
'RBXScriptSignal' from 'Roblox'

????? liike what will happen if i use a custom signal...

[wary cairn]

script.Parent = Gay

    ```

[plush zenith]

im guessing 259 and 16 are line numbers, not sure though

[wary cairn]

why error

😔

[plush zenith]

can you put lines 259 and 16 here?

[somber imp]

like this?

lava = script.Parent

lava.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
    hit:FindFirstAncestorOfClass("Model")
    hit.Parent.Humanoid.Health = 0
end)

lava.CanCollide = false
lava.Anchored = true

[wary cairn]

pro

bro

yall lowk have some horrendous scripts

[plush zenith]

yes, except you need to put it in a variable. kinda like how you put lava = script.Parent

[wary cairn]

what is the goal of the script?

[plush zenith]

they are very new lol...

[wary cairn]

let me try

[wary cairn]

i'm not critisizing

i also suck at it

[plush zenith]

ah, okay

my bad 🥴

[somber imp]

this one is to make the lava kill me which in this case is a part named lava but the errors keep telling me humanoid isnt a valid member of all of my accessories

[wary cairn]

check this out

[wary cairn]

ohh got u

[plush zenith]

hell yeah

i wanna show off too hold on

[wary cairn]

oh nah

[somber imp]

what variable

[thick loom]

CollectionService:GetInstanceAddedSignal(Constants.MovingPlatform.Tag)
CollectionService:GetInstanceRemovedSignal(Constants.MovingPlatform.Tag)::RBXScriptSignal
CollectionService:GetInstanceAddedSignal(Constants.OneWayPlatform.Tag)

these lines :/

Type annotations dont eliminate the error either..

[wary cairn]

paradox

here

[somber imp]

waddup

[wary cairn]

local lava = script.Parent

lava.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
if hit.Parent:FindFirstChild("Humanoid") then
hit.Parent.Humanoid.Health = 0
end

lava.CanCollide = false
lava.Anchored = true

end)

0 errors

[somber imp]

thank you broo it doesnt

what was the problem?

[wary cairn]

does it work?

[somber imp]

yes very well

[wary cairn]

oh nice

[somber imp]

.

[wary cairn]

u didnt use local lava = script.Parent

[somber imp]

holy how did i do that

[wary cairn]

you just wrote lava = script.Parent

😭

[somber imp]

yo i gotta be top 10 slowest scripter oat

[wary cairn]

and also don't use :FirstFindChild

humanoid

use an if statement

[plush zenith]

audio spectrum analyzer in roblox studio 🥴

[somber imp]

lava = script.Parent

lava.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
    hit.Parent:FindFirstChild("Humanoid")
    hit.Parent.Humanoid.Health = 0
end)

lava.CanCollide = false
lava.Anchored = true

this is the original code

[wary cairn]

DANG

this lowk fire

[somber imp]

hows that even possible gang

[wary cairn]

fr

😭

[plush zenith]

EditableImages

[wary cairn]

how does on do tjhat

WAIT

editableimages?

[plush zenith]

yeah

[wary cairn]

what deos that do

[plush zenith]

you can write raw binary data to it

[wary cairn]

can u like use it to animate ui?

[wary cairn]

oh nah

[plush zenith]

and depending on what you write, colors and shapes will show up in specific regions

[wary cairn]

not binary vro 💔

[thick loom]

bro speaking the 101010100101

[wary cairn]

i hate it

[plush zenith]

lolz

[wary cairn]

guys

[plush zenith]

its in decimal so its not too bad

[wary cairn]

check out this cool ui

[wary cairn]

isn't tbat worse

[plush zenith]

you can even stream a youtube video to an editableimage with http

[wary cairn]

😭

[plush zenith]

call it whatever you want

[wary cairn]

look some cool tweens

[wary cairn]

thats wild

[plush zenith]

you called lava lava, so call character character

[somber imp]

but like where do i put it and what do i make the variable equal to

[plush zenith]

inside the touched event

[somber imp]

ive seen those before im literally so baffled i dont understand it

[wary cairn]

tweens are like the easiest thing vro

[somber imp]

what the heck is a tween

[wary cairn]

u gotta watch brawldev 💔

[plush zenith]

lava = script.Parent

lava.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
    local character = hit:FindFirstAnsectorOfClass("Model")
    character.Humanoid.Health = 0
end)

lava.CanCollide = false
lava.Anchored = true

@somber imp

[somber imp]

i only know thedevking fr

[wary cairn]

u didn't even use local

💔

[plush zenith]

blame him 🥴

[somber imp]

oops

[plush zenith]

its okay guys

[somber imp]

so how does local actually effect it tho

[plush zenith]

i remember back in 2021 i was trying to migrate data for a bunch of players

[somber imp]

like what does it REALLY do

[plush zenith]

but i was a terrible scripter and ended up wiping everyone's data HAHAHAH

[wary cairn]

dang 😭

[wary cairn]

so uh

it's used to create variables

variables are basically used to name things

instead of saying script.Parent the whole time u can just say lava

[plush zenith]

the local keyword causes the variable to appear in the scope of the block that it's defined in

[wary cairn]

or whatever u named it

[somber imp]

like u have to put local before functions too like

local function test()

[wary cairn]

[plush zenith]

nope

you dont have to

[somber imp]

thats what ive been hearing

[wary cairn]

i don't think his gonna understand

[wary cairn]

I do

idk about otehrs

[plush zenith]

you won't get runtime errors if you dont put local, but all ur variables will be accessible anywhere in the script, which might cause you to accidentally change them when you dont want to

they will be in the global scope rather than the local scope

[wary cairn]

lowk

hate scripting

[plush zenith]

you will get better at it

want some motivation?

in 2023 i landed a 53k robux commission

since then i haven't done commissions much. i should get back into them though

[wary cairn]

dangg

[wary cairn]

im just tryna sell ts ui 💔

[plush zenith]

ooh nice

where are you gonna post it at

[wary cairn]

i posted it on x

[plush zenith]

[wary cairn]

but I don't get much engagement w my posts

[plush zenith]

keep on posting

the grind is worth it

[wary cairn]

bro look at this

what even is that 😭

[plush zenith]

UDP protocol instead of TCP

[wary cairn]

what that

[thick loom]

sends a request and doesnt wait for a response

[plush zenith]

networking protocols

[wary cairn]

oh

[somber imp]

why wont it work this time chat

local switch = script.Parent
local clock = game.Lighting.TimeOfDay

switch.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function()
    
        if clock == "00:00:00" then
            clock = "14:00:00" else
            clock = "00:00:00"
        end
    
    print("changed")
    
end)

[wary cairn]

is it useful tho

[plush zenith]

when you play overwatch, that's UDP, when you watch a youtube video, that's TCP

[somber imp]

the buttons supposed to change it from day to night btw

and if its night back to day

[plush zenith]

TCP = slow, UDP = fast

[wary cairn]

bro 💔

send me the

uh

items

on explorer

[somber imp]

like screenshot it

[plush zenith]

ur editing the variable instead of the propery itself

[plush zenith]

you have to set game.Lighting.TimeOfDay directly

[somber imp]

oh so u cant make a variable for that

[plush zenith]

if ur goal is to change the property, then no you can't

changing the variable will not change the property

[somber imp]

so why cant u do it with that specifically

[plush zenith]

you have to do game.Lighting.TimeOfDay =

[plush zenith]

the variable reads the value of the property, and clones the value and stores it inside itself

changing the clone doesn't change the original

[somber imp]

so this cant be changed either

local light = game.Workspace.lightswitch.body.pole.PointLight

.enabled

from true to false

[plush zenith]

yup, that's right. because ur storing the value inside a variable, which is nothing but a clone created from reading the property

[thick loom]

--!strict
--!optimize 2 
local switch = script.Parent ::ImageButton -- Whatever you use
local clock = game.Lighting.TimeOfDay

switch.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function()
        if clock == "00:00:00" then
             game.Lighting.TimeOfDay = "14:00:00" else
             game.Lighting.TimeOfDay = "00:00:00"
        end 
    print("changed")  
end)

[plush zenith]

exactly, he gets it

[wary cairn]

local switch = script.Parent
local clickDetector = script.Parent:WaitForChild("ClickDetector")

if clickDetector then
clickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function()
if game.Lighting.ClockTime == 0 then
game.Lighting.ClockTime = 14
else
game.Lighting.ClockTime = 0
end
end)
end

here bro

[plush zenith]

you need to change the property directly

Voxel gets it too

[thick loom]

you can use to reference, but it changes the var

[somber imp]

this is what i ended up getting

local switch = script.Parent

switch.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function()
    
    if game.Lighting.TimeOfDay == "00:00:00" then
        game.Lighting.TimeOfDay = "14:00:00" else
        game.Lighting.TimeOfDay = "00:00:00"
        end
    
    print("changed")
    
end)

[plush zenith]

correct

[wary cairn]

@somber imp this works super well

[somber imp]

lets goo

[plush zenith]

this will change the lighting property

[somber imp]

lemme look

[plush zenith]

but if you ever want to keep a reference to the property's value, you can use a variable for that

[wary cairn]

yep

also

add a debounce 💔

[plush zenith]

you can read the value in the reference. you can also change the value in the reference and then set the property's value to the value of the reference.

this is how variables in lua work

[somber imp]

so whats the point of this part

local clickDetector = script.Parent:WaitForChild("ClickDetector")

if clickDetector then
    clickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function()

[plush zenith]

btw im curious why are you optimizing

[thick loom]

--!strict
--!optimize 2
local switch = script.Parent ::ImageButton -- Whatever you use
local clock = game.Lighting.TimeOfDay

switch.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function()
local clock == game.Workspace.lightswitch.body.pole.PointLight -- He can do that
if clock == "Brightness Thing" then
game.Lighting.TimeOfDay = "Brightness Thing 2" else
game.Lighting.TimeOfDay = "Brightness Thing"
end
print("changed")
end)

[wary cairn]

just to make sure the clickDetector has loaded in

[plush zenith]

not that its a bad thing, im just curious

[somber imp]

rather than just switch.ClickDetector.Mouseclick:Connect(function()

[thick loom]

used to it now ig. it doesnt change that much in general but its a bonus if you get it down over time

[somber imp]

so like if the player loads in super fast with the script as normal it just wouldnt work

[plush zenith]

gotcha. if you want you can also use --!native to tell the compiler to compile directly to machine code rather than going through the Lua VM

[wary cairn]

yep

[wary cairn]

it just makes it so that it can never fail

[thick loom]

not ready yet bruuhhh im sending variables of clocks still

[thick loom]

C++ needs its own chapter

[plush zenith]

its nothing more than a comment 🥴

like --!optimize 2

[somber imp]

does that apply for everything like if i load in before my clickdetector loads in for my door open/close button it just wont work at all

[thick loom]

Ill go from Roblox games -> Blockchain development either way

[wary cairn]

yep

[somber imp]

didnt even know that could happen

[wary cairn]

lol same

[plush zenith]

oh shit that's cool

[somber imp]

i thought it just kept loading either way

[plush zenith]

blockchain dev?

[wary cairn]

until it started happening to testers

[somber imp]

im 15 is ts possible or is ai gonna cook me

[wary cairn]

claude

saving my ass

[thick loom]

ive started coding while in active duty as a paratrooper, cause odds are were all cooked

[wary cairn]

every time

[somber imp]

idek what i wanna do yet so hopefully im good

[thick loom]

u got more time than me man stay focused stay hustlin

[somber imp]

are you still a paratrooper?

[plush zenith]

that's sick as hell bruh

you gliding in the air?

[thick loom]

Yessir, 10 more days to graduate my mandatory enlisting

joined a year ago

[plush zenith]

man yall are making me feel bad ngl 😭 im a dishwasher

[thick loom]

im gon be a waiter for summer bro, U know where da money @ >:P

[plush zenith]

i've been looking to quit that part time job for a while in favor of something more programming orientated

my dad and aunt is trying to hook me up with a a cryber crime opporunity at the government for the summer so hopefully that goes well

[thick loom]

wish you the best of luck from the bottom of my heart man, cause we actually racing multi billion dollar companies for a slice of cake atp

[plush zenith]

meanwhile im trying to release this roblox game and promote the hell out of it

[plush zenith]

bro LITERALLY 💔

the money is good and all but i just wanna be able to have the freedom to do what i want like i used to when i was a kid 🥴

[thick loom]

valid af guys, we all seen what Escape Tsunamis and Brainrots for at Q4

[plush zenith]

yup....

[somber imp]

so based off this is there any way to make this better

local switch = script.Parent

switch.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function()
    if game.Workspace.lightswitch.light.pole.PointLight.Enabled == true then
        game.Workspace.lightswitch.light.pole.PointLight.Enabled = false else
        game.Workspace.lightswitch.light.pole.PointLight.Enabled = true
    end
end)

[plush zenith]

Steal a Brainrot because the most popular game IN GAMING HISTORY

[thick loom]

im trying to set up something i enjoy spending much of time at, wish you wont see it but military camps aint the most jolliest of enviroments

[thick loom]

breh 300M$

thats an average GDP of a country or smt

small country but still..

[plush zenith]

i can imagine that

[plush zenith]

you can put PointLight.Enabled in a variable and then change the variable. then when you wanna change the property itself, set the property to the variable. that's one way to make it neat

[jovial violet]

ewwww ai 🤮

[plush zenith]

literally just .Enabled = variable

[jovial violet]

learn to code

[wary cairn]

i know how to code

im just lazy

[jovial violet]

fair

[plush zenith]

pffft

[somber imp]

yea i wouldnt have even thought to do that

thanks tho it looks so much better and works

oh wait now it doesnt

[wary cairn]

can someone tell me the error

[somber imp]

i prolly did something hold on

[plush zenith]

me love buffers

[wary cairn]

@plush zenith help

[somber imp]

yea it was me

again

[wary cairn]

🥺

[plush zenith]

lol

take a screenshot of the error that appears in the output, and send it here

[neat siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1462250431538401493/1469815372944380006/tenor3.gif

[plush zenith]

btw i can't join vc cause i got vc muted a long time ago for some bullshit and they never unmuted me 🥴

that's why im only talking in here

[balmy sorrel]

I'm surprised I never got VC muted

permenantly

I was doin a lot of stupid shit a few years ago

[neat siren]

I feel like you'd scream out the n word and call everyone a g oy

[balmy sorrel]

nah

I would spam leave and join

[neat siren]

[real karma]

good

[somber imp]

any way i can make this cleaner?

local button = {game.Workspace.explodingbutton, game.Workspace.wedge, game.Workspace.body
}

game.Workspace.button.ClickDetector.MouseClick:Connect(function(player)

    local clicks = player.leaderstats.Clicks
    
    clicks.Value += 1
    
    print("Clicked!")

    while clicks.Value <= 25 do
        task.wait()

        if clicks.Value == 25 then

            local explosion =Instance.new("Explosion", game.Workspace)
            explosion.Position = Vector3.new(8.981, 3.033, -26.255)
            print("boom")
            
            for _, obj in button do
                obj:Destroy()
            end
            
            break
        end
    end
end)

[real karma]

why do you have an unused variable

[somber imp]

where

[real karma]

explosions

[somber imp]

oh yea forgot to delete that

[real karma]

don't use loops inside of an event

[somber imp]

i was trying to make it stop exploding over and over again and just do it once with some weird way that i quickly realized was dumb and the break was actually just in the wrong spot

[real karma]

I don't suggest it

[somber imp]

whats wrong with it

[real karma]

you can do it but if it's a really big script, you can get off path and have more while loops inside of events and when you expect one to work, it doesn't

[somber imp]

because it has to keep checking if the player is at 25 clicks or not

and also has to destroy the entire table in the for loop

[real karma]

put the loop outside so you can manage other conditions in it and not only for one event

put the loop outside

and you don't need a loop

just the conditional statement inside of the event is enough

[somber imp]

so how should i write it

like 4 variables on the outside and just destroy all 4 on the inside

instead of a table and a for loop?

[real karma]

No, I was talking about the while loop

[somber imp]

oh so the for loops fine

[real karma]

remove the while loop

you don't require it

there might be a logical error in your script

[somber imp]

so like i dont think i understand, what should i replace it with

what is it

[real karma]

It will delete the buttons for client-side only

not for entire server

[real karma]

just remove the red lines and you're good to go

[somber imp]

hows it work

[dense abyss]

dm me

[real karma]

@somber imp are u new to scripting

[rich crane]

Does anybody know how to make a match system?

[somber imp]

yea

im just getting into this

[real karma]

what are you using for learning

[somber imp]

im trying to figure out how to make my code cleaner and work better

i was watching youtube stuff but right now im asking around as im trying to make things

[real karma]

do you want some tips

[somber imp]

sure

[real karma]

when you finish writing a code,

1. try to use less variables i.e not a lot of Boolean or data variables which aren't addresses of instances.
2. try shortening your statements as much as possible
3. have error handling statements i.e if something goes wrong, it will print in the output
4. make your logic easy i.e not a lot of nested statements, unnecessary Boolean conditions.
5. know the basics i.e having loops outside of events, not defining a function in middle of script but at the very top, good naming of variables of functions, keeping a systematic way of creating variables, functions and running loops i.e have first four lines for services such as useinputservice, replicatedstorage and the next 4 lines can be locations for instances.
6. don't be afraid to add comments but don't overuse it.
7. before you start mathematical operations, have a dry run done
8. scan for all the three types of errors by dry running i.e logical, syntax and runtime error

[somber imp]

gonna keep this thank you so much

[real karma]

no problem

[somber imp]

quick question how do you dry run i.e logical error

[real karma]

hmm

understand your objective

an example of logical error would be

let's say you want to create a part instance for all the players so you have to use the script

but you use the localscript and place it in starterplayer

that's a logical error

[somber imp]

yea because thats just client right

[real karma]

another one would be dividing any number by 0

[real karma]

yes

[somber imp]

isnt dividing by 0 just 1

[earnest stag]

shortening statements depend on the script type tho, if its some script thats gonna be used once in lifetime, then u can keep ur statements short, but if its a production script then its better to keep every variable, statement and comment as full as possible so u wont get to read brainfuck code

[true ginkgo]

ye i do

[somber imp]

or is it 0

[real karma]

or let's say you were supposed to return an array at the end of function but by mistake, you return an int number

[earnest stag]

dividing by 0 is always 0

[somber imp]

so just tiny mistakes

[earnest stag]

rookie mistakes

[real karma]

that's true but I wouldn't suggest anyone to use a lot of nested statements because if you were to debug a mistake, it will take you sometime to actually understand the steps and conditions you've returned i.e dry running

[earnest stag]

isn't that the reason why u make warn() or print() statements in each function or var change so u can see where it fails?

[real karma]

mistakes that don't cause the compiler to stop running the script but are from the user side

[real karma]

yeah I've said this point

[real karma]

3 ^

[earnest stag]

u also don't make error handling everywhere, sometimes u can do it without error handling

[real karma]

yes

[earnest stag]

if ur script is reliable on error handling then ur script is an error

[real karma]

youre right

[somber imp]

is this like a polite argument

[real karma]

it's not an argument

[somber imp]

debate

[real karma]

he's just saying things which I've stated above

[earnest stag]

no

[real karma]

not a debate either

[earnest stag]

its just an ensurement thing

[real karma]

yes

[earnest stag]

like a comment

[somber imp]

gotcha

im gonna go to sleep now goodbye

[lost pebble]

it's undefined

(search up the graph of 1/x and you'll see why)

[heady crypt]

💀

u can divide 0 by things and its just 0

but u cant divide things by 0

[cobalt salmon]

uhm so

[quaint sage]

Uhm... Ignoring code help for now, I'm not sure how to make a customization menu like wcue, lt:r, and felandia has, does anyone know how to do this and can help me out?....

[autumn hull]

1. wont agree with that, its more performant to localize table field if you access field value 2 times (read), instead of table.value everywhere do local value = table.value, and use local, local lookup is alot faster then table one

[autumn hull]

2. is situational, if you talk about fast leave logic like if value == nil then return; end; but if its 2 or more statement then its not reccomended cause it makes readability awful

[rancid dawn]

how long until creator rewards starts coming in?

[orchid arch]

yall suck

[real karma]

what I meant was for Boolean values such as

local IsOpened = false
local Opened = false

Both the variables may have the same functionality for acting as the conditions for statements which is unnecessary. I did not mean for any sort of variable function such as table.value and whatsoever.

[real karma]

yes, youre right

but that doesn't mean you have 100 nested statements for a function which spawns an instance part in the workspace

[autumn hull]

i mean anything over 3 nested statements is bad

[real karma]

yes

[autumn hull]

there is some edge cases like hotpath with optimisation but thats rare

where you can use more then that

[real karma]

youre right

[orchid arch]

tldr yall suck

[autumn hull]

??

wrong chanell bro

[orchid arch]

no

right channel

[autumn hull]

bro didnt get the joke

[autumn hull]

what do you think about task.spawn()

and task.delay

[orchid arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166780946293469324/1446765916472999986/attachment.gif

[autumn hull]

should i call doctor for you?

[orchid arch]

whats a doctor

[autumn hull]

you cant use discrod if youre younger then 13 you know?

[orchid arch]

im 86

[autumn hull]

86 days < 13 years, leave kid

[orchid arch]

86 decades*

[real karma]

task.spawn() runs instantly whereas task.delay allows you to delay the code by adding in an int argument

[orchid arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166780946293469324/1446765916472999986/attachment.gif

[autumn hull]

i am about performence and how newbies use it

[real karma]

hm

depends on what u want to do

[orchid arch]

luau and performance in the same sentence

[autumn hull]

people before --!native existed

[orchid arch]

all my homies hate native

[autumn hull]

lets say coin despawns after 5 seconds after spawning

[orchid arch]

mfw krnls decompiler closed yo game if u used native

[autumn hull]

do you even understand what it is dude?

[orchid arch]

whos dude

[autumn hull]

ok NOODLE sir

[orchid arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1360716109740773548/1467316927679561768/togif.gif

anyway

yall still suck

[autumn hull]

Do you even know what is this? (may have some syntax issue)

  type function union(type1: type, type2: type): type
    return types.unionof(type1, type2);
  end;

[orchid arch]

thats a code block

[autumn hull]

you can go ragebait on your tik tok, that doesnt work on me

[orchid arch]

im not baiting

you asked what that is and i gave you an answer

[autumn hull]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-a-genius-butt-head-beavis-and-butt-head-you're-so-smart-you're-a-good-thinker-gif-5376753907262202245

[orchid arch]

yeah i know i am

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156734890537140256/1445187778907471953/poetry.gif

[autumn hull]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

imagine all code looks like that if you remove spaces, and center it

[orchid arch]

no thats only mine

[autumn hull]

@real karma

[orchid arch]

like2dev what does the code in that file do

[autumn hull]

do not work

[orchid arch]

it does work

it works very well

[autumn hull]

with not closed parethesis i dont think so

[orchid arch]

lua says it runs

[autumn hull]

we talk about Luau

[orchid arch]

it works on luau too

that sample is from a unit test that passed platform testing