USB Loader GX problem

[dry solstice]

Basically, every game I try on my Wii (4.3E), on clOS 249 it doesn't load at all, and on cIOS 250 it loads, usually I get to the gameplay just fine, but after several seconds to a couple of minutes I get black screen and my Wii freezes I use Verbatim USB HDD to load games, it's formatted as FAT32. Tries reinstalling clOS and using different versions from different developers - same thing happens. USB Loader GX is the latest version

[cursive bridge]

To help troubleshoot your issue please run Syscheck and test all IOS on your Wii by following this guide:
https://wii.guide/syscheck

When it's done it will generate and display a syscheck.csv file.

Power down the Wii and insert the SD or USB into a PC. Drag and drop the syscheck.csv file from the root of your SD or USB into chat.

You can also upload the report and link the URL to chat or take photos of the entire report if you don’t have a USB or a SD reader on your PC

[jolly lagoon]

outdated cios

IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0

...how?

[dry solstice]

Those are cIOS from n-wii.ru, I tried them to try to fix the HDD, but it didn't help

[jolly lagoon]

uh, yeah, you shouldnt trust these

only trust the ones from wii.guide

[dry solstice]

Those from wii.guide produced the same effect

[jolly lagoon]

oh and get rid of the old cioses

WAIT HOLY SHIT

OH MY FUCKING GOD

[dry solstice]

What?

[jolly lagoon]

its fucking trucha bugged

maybe thats why...

[cursive bridge]

Yeah

[jolly lagoon]

I recommend you use the Windows program, ModMii. It has many Wii modding tools or "activities" built in.

Do a Syscheck by following this Guide https://wii.guide/syscheck

Download and install ModMii to your windows PC
https://modmii.github.io/

Launch Modmii Classic (not ModMii Skin)
Type I Agree and press enter
Type SU and press enter to select the Syscheck Updater Activity.
Provide it the syscheck.csv file you just made by dragging the syscheck.csv file from the root of your SD and dropping it into the ModMii window.
It might ask you if you want to remove\overwrite RiiConnect24 in IOS 31. You can say no.
It'll list many wad files that it will download, select Y = Yes, Generate Guide and Begin Downloading
Follow the generated guide closely to update your mod files.

@dry solstice

[cursive bridge]

He's that guy

[dry solstice]

I'll try, and if it didn't help I'll tell

[dry solstice]

I did that, basically I get the same results, same black screen before the cutscene in Super Mario Galaxy for example

If needed, that's the HDD I'm using, tried different cables - doesn't work

[dry solstice]

Tried ModMii, installed WADs it gave me as the solution, didn't help

[cursive bridge]

Make a new syscheck

[cursive bridge]

Is your hdd FAT32 with the partition style MBR and a 32kb cluster size.

Also can you send a screenshot of how your games look on the hdd

[dry solstice]

HDD is FAT32 with MBR, cluster size is unknown (KDE Partition Manager didn't let me choose)

[cursive bridge]

Are you on windows?

[dry solstice]

I'm on Linux

I can try a Windows VM though

[cursive bridge]

Okay, try this first

Here is what the folder structure should look like for game loading:
💾SD/USB:
┣ 📂wbfs
┃ ┣ 📂GameName [gameID]
┃ ┃ ┗ 📜gameid.wbfs
┃ ┗ 📂GameName [gameID] --This example is for split wbfs files, if you are on ntfs or your game is smaller than 4gb, ignore it
┃ ┣ 📜gameid.wbfs
┃ ┗ 📜gameid.wbf1
┗ 📂games
┣ 📂GameName [gameID]
┃ ┗ 📜game.iso --note: this is LITERALLY game.iso, not the name of the game, or the game id, just game
┗ 📂GameName [gameID] --This example is for multi disc games
┣ 📜game.iso
┗ 📜disc2.iso

Note: the WBFS folder is for WII GAMES ONLY and the Games folder is for GAMECUBE GAMES ONLY

get the game IDs here: https://www.gametdb.com/

For Wii games you can just use any of the programs found on this page as an easier alternative to manually creating the folder structure: https://wii.guide/wiibackupmanager

[dry solstice]

Redid the file structure, basically the same thing. Can it be that this particular HDD is not compatible with the Wii or it isn't getting enough power from it?

[dry solstice]

Basically didn't help

[dry solstice]

So basically I've reformatted the drive with 32K sector size, will test it now

Didn't help

[cursive bridge]

Is the HDD in port 0 (closest to the edge)

[dry solstice]

It is

[cursive bridge]

Then it's most likely a compatibility issue

IF YOU WANT

If you're operating on a tight budget with an intention to purchase an external HDD or an SD Card for use with your Wii, then within this specific context, the following options may be considered. FAT32 file formatting is essential to use these devices with your Wii.

If you are looking for reasonably-priced HDD options that operate optimally with the Wii console, we would recommend exploring the links below:

https://a.co/d/eMQovS2
https://a.co/d/94hD7Ad

While another recommended solution utilizes an SD card with greater storage allocation capacity which can store both games and open source applications as well - check it out here: https://a.co/d/gdDayD9

Additionally, there exists another possibility where users could take advantage of using an internal HDD supported by SATA-to-USB technology - providing more varied connectivity options between devices; it is suggested to investigate the details further at this source link: https://a.co/d/4myJBmZ

[low sparrow]

Did you delete the old cios slots already?

[dry solstice]

which ones?

[low sparrow]

202,222,223,224,236

[dry solstice]

I didn't touch them

[low sparrow]

Yeah they gotta go

Get Wii mod lite https://wii.guide/wiimodlite Extract it and put it in your apps folder on the SD, launch it on the Wii, select iOS, delete slots 202,222,223,224,236

[dry solstice]

Deleted them

Wow, it seems like it helped

[dry solstice]

Ultimately didn't help, still the same issue

[low sparrow]

Make sure your Drive is plugged into Port 0 like in this image https://i.imgur.com/zNrAp5o.png

[dry solstice]

It is

[dry solstice]

Basically the issue - games start up, but after some time (like when I select a game mode or run to the first cut scene) it just shows black screen, Wii doesn't react to anything or only allows to open HOME menu, the HDD is spinning

[low sparrow]

Double check the partition style is MBR: https://www.howtogeek.com/245610/how-to-check-if-a-disk-uses-gpt-or-mbr-and-how-to-convert-between-the-two/

[dry solstice]

it is

[dry solstice]

Basically the issue - games start up, but after some time (like when I select a game mode or run to the first cut scene) it just shows black screen, Wii doesn't react to anything or only allows to open HOME menu, the HDD is spinning. If it wasn't formatted correctly, the loader wouldn't even see it

[low sparrow]

What version of usbloader GX are you on

[dry solstice]

3.0 1281

[low sparrow]

guh

What’s your game iOS set to

And does it happen for all games

[dry solstice]

If I set it to 249, the games don't load at all, but they behave like I described on 250, and it happens to every game I tested

[low sparrow]

Can you send another syscheck

[low sparrow]

Have you used modmii before?

[dry solstice]

Yes

[low sparrow]

It should have given you more iOS than that

[dry solstice]

It gave me 20 IOS and some stubs

[low sparrow]

Yeah install all of them

[dry solstice]

That's what I did (only the 20 ones, not stubs)

[low sparrow]

Install the stubs

[dry solstice]

Didn't help

[dry solstice]

new syscheck

[low sparrow]

It looks the same

[dry solstice]

But I installed the stubs it gave me

[dry solstice]

Basically rn the only thing modmii gives me are the same stubs (3, 4, 10, 16, 51) and nothing else

[low sparrow]

Alright then

[dry solstice]

I believe this is the drive incompatibility

[low sparrow]

It could be, but if the drive reads I doubt it

[dry solstice]

The drive works fine on my PC, but it had some issues when I used it as SMB drive on my router (it would disconnect randomly)

[low sparrow]

Does it have multiple partitions?

[dry solstice]

No

[low sparrow]

Weird

[dry solstice]

I guess my drive's USB port might be the issue, but I don't have another drive to test

[low sparrow]

If the drive reads, unlikely

[dry solstice]

It reads, but it can randomly disconnect and reconnect back

[low sparrow]

Then actually it could be a power issue

Does your drive have any kind of sleep mode

[dry solstice]

Well, I don't know

[low sparrow]

It also might not get enough power from the Wii, which is usually rare

The Wii can power most drives

[dry solstice]

I've found a relatively cheap (2000 rub.) 320 GB drive, it is said that it's compatible with PS4 and XOne, I think it might work for Wii too

[dry solstice]

Basically, I just tried to run the game from an SD card, and guess what, it's working perfectly. This is 100% a drive compatibility error

[low sparrow]

That’s quite a shame.

[low sparrow]

I’m guessing it might be a power related issue.

[dry solstice]

Yeah, it may be

[dry solstice]

Basically, it turns out that this drive is just incompatible with the Wii