How do you decrease the rate you encounter game crashing when using USB Loader GX & WiiFlow?

[frozen smelt]

To put it bluntly:

Every time I try to launch a game on WiiFlow or USB Loader GX, it crashes or stays on a black screen almost 90% of the time or the game just doesn't load after going past the Wii Safety screen on the launch of the game.

Is there any way to fix this? Thanks.

[frozen smelt]

this is the report i get when using Syscheck before anyone asks:

https://syscheck.rc24.xyz/view.php?id=CwuXqdPa

...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 07.14.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 128644893
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United States (49)
Boot2 v4
Found 84 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 15 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v11beta1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v11beta1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[38] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v11beta1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 02/22/2023.
https://syscheck.rc24.xyz/view.php?id=CwuXqdPa```

[frozen smelt]

to also note:

• i'm using a USB flash drive (Samsung)
• it's currently formatted to be FAT32 & MBR & 32 KB allocation ize
• it's a 64GB usb flash drive
• i'm using Wii Backup Manager to import games over to it

[honest river]

Don’t use a usb stick

[honest river]

Sometimes using a USB stick will make you have it restart the Wii to play a different game again

[frozen smelt]

unfortunately i don’t really have any other choices atm

i don’t have money right now to buy a different SD card for games, same goes for an external HDD

[honest river]

You could try checking Facebook marketplace to see if there’s one available at a discount

[honest river]

If you need recommendations for a cheap HDD, here’s a few
https://amzn.to/3DX6g2Q
https://amzn.to/3pnqZcl

[frozen smelt]

don’t have any money atm, so i can’t buy any of them

i’ll keep them noted though

tyty

[frozen smelt]

is there anything else i could do?

(possibly)

[honest river]

SD card might be better for loading games

[frozen smelt]

well i'd like to avoid having to use different types of storage to fix the issue

as i can't buy a different SD card or external hdd (at the moment)

[honest river]

You can use the same SD that you use for apps

[frozen smelt]

the SD i use right now for apps is a 1GB SD

lol

[honest river]

I see

[honest river]

Double check the following:

Format your USB drive: The drive should be 2tb or smaller, formatted to MBR and have a single primary FAT32 partition with 32kb (32768) or 64kb (65536) cluster/allocation unit size. Double check the partition style is MBR: https://www.howtogeek.com/245610/how-to-check-if-a-disk-uses-gpt-or-mbr-and-how-to-convert-between-the-two/
Drive is 64gb or less: Format it to FAT32 with 32kb (32,768 bytes) cluster / allocation unit size. Drive is larger than 64gb: Format it to FAT32 with 64kb (65,536 bytes) cluster / allocation unit size. If the drive is larger than 32GB, you will need third party software like GUIFormat or Wii Backup Manager to format your drive to FAT32 Wii Backup Manager: https://wii.guide/wiibackupmanager GUIFormat: http://ridgecrop.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm

[frozen smelt]

USB is MBR already,
USB is FAT32 already,
USB is 32KB allocated size,
USB is 64GB
Currently using Wii Backup Manager
Currently using GUIFormat to format to FAT32

[honest river]

Unfortunately there’s nothing else I can do for you

[frozen smelt]

unfortunate

[honest river]

You may just have to wait till that paycheck comes in

…or a couple paychecks

[frozen smelt]

lol

[honest river]

Actually I just remembered something. You can use Wii backup manager to format the drive to WBFS and for some reason it’s friendlier on flash drives. They only thing is that windows doesn’t recognize it so the only way to transfer files back and forth is with Wii backup manager

Also you won’t be able to use GameCube games that way

[stone wedge]

but still not the greatest to use right

[honest river]

Obviously

[stone wedge]

yeah but good option, just not great if you plan on adding a lot of games

[frozen smelt]

sure that's fine

i already only transfer my games through Wii Backup Manager so i don't have a problem with that

plus i don't play any GameCube games on the Wii anyways

so i'll format it as WBFS

[honest river]

Just remember reformatting a drive erases everything

[frozen smelt]

i know lol, i don't have that much on the flash drive anyways

i've only tried out around 1 to 3 games on the flash drive due to the amount of crashing i was encountering

[stone wedge]

While it is possible to use a flash drive with the Wii by converting it to the WBFS format, this is generally not recommended due to compatibility issues with the proprietary filesystem and the potential for data corruption. HDDs are a better option for use with the Wii due to their larger storage capacity, faster read/write speeds, and greater compatibility with the console. Some recommended affordable HDDs for the Wii include the Toshiba Canvio Basics, the Maxone 2.5" Ultra Slim Portable External Hard Drive, and the Silicon Power A60 Shockproof Portable Hard Drive. These drives are reliable and widely available, and they are priced under $50, making them a good choice for anyone looking to expand their Wii storage on a budget.

https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HDTB420XK3AA-Canvio-Portable-External/dp/B079D359S6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1LDOSAK82OX4&keywords=Toshiba%2BCanvio%2BBasics&qid=1677196665&sprefix=toshiba%2Bcanvio%2Bbasics%2Caps%2C290&sr=8-3&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Portable-External-Shockproof/dp/B00LN0P5Q0/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2R70DNJQN6KJB&keywords=Silicon+Power+A60+Shockproof+Portable+Hard+Drive&qid=1677197000&sprefix=silicon+power+a60+shockproof+portable+hard+drive%2Caps%2C431&sr=8-5
https://www.amazon.com/Portable-External-Drive-Desktop-Chromebook/dp/B07BCP3PYL/ref=sr_1_3?crid=17NNZFJZZMNZR&keywords=Maxone+2.5"+Ultra+Slim+Portable+External+Hard+Drive&qid=1677197087&sprefix=maxone+2.5+ultra+slim+portable+external+hard+drive%2Caps%2C303&sr=8-3

i am following @honest river ‘s directions 🫡

though i couldnt shorten the link

[frozen smelt]

you can just delete everything that is the /ref and past that

like this: https://www.amazon.com/Portable-External-Drive-Desktop-Chromebook/dp/B07BCP3PYL

but also to answer your response

[frozen smelt]

don’t have any money atm, so i can’t buy any of them

[stone wedge]

oh

[stone wedge]

gl 🫡

[frozen smelt]

tyty

[stone wedge]

how did it go

[frozen smelt]

you can actually shorten it further to this lol
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BCP3PYL
very convenient

[frozen smelt]

haven't tested it yet

don't have the time rn

since it's like 11 PM lmao

[stone wedge]

i already shortened it lol

While it is possible to use a flash drive with the Wii by converting it to the WBFS format, this is generally not recommended due to compatibility issues with the proprietary filesystem and the potential for data corruption. HDDs are a better option for use with the Wii due to their larger storage capacity, faster read/write speeds, and greater compatibility with the console. Some recommended affordable HDDs for the Wii include the Toshiba Canvio Basics, the Maxone 2.5" Ultra Slim Portable External Hard Drive, and the Silicon Power A60 Shockproof Portable Hard Drive. These drives are reliable and widely available, and they are priced under $50, making them a good choice for anyone looking to expand their Wii storage on a budget.

https://amz.run/6QFq
https://amz.run/6QFm
https://amz.run/6QFo

[frozen smelt]

ah

nice nice

[stone wedge]

/tf

tf

anyway

[stone wedge]

sleep or smth idk

[frozen smelt]

i will lol

[reef meteor]

dunno if someone already mentioned this

but cios 249 and 250 are wrong

[stone wedge]

what is ur budget

alright, sorry if it might not be in your budget, but heres some that you may wanna get

nvm

alright here, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0797MR66W

alternatively, you can buy an SD card which is surprisingly just 8 dollars apparently https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0143RTB1E

[timber haven]

They aren't actually. I'd you notice there v11 and the cIOS recommendations are changing

Though I believe we would be recommending the compatibility schema which would have base 38 on slot 248 and base 58 on slot 251

You can set those recommendations here: https://github.com/wiidev/usbloadergx

[reef meteor]

ok, but why cios 248?

[timber haven]

Btw you can remove the preview by adding < > around the link. This is important when you have a bunch of links otherwise you are wasting chat space

[timber haven]

idk that's what the usbloadergx dev decided and we gotta conform somewhere

[frozen smelt]

don't know yet

i'm planning on getting other stuff that i need

such as a need SSD for my laptop lol

[frozen smelt]

i changed my cIOS to it and i plan on testing it sooner or later

[stone wedge]

i can recommend if you want lol

[frozen smelt]

nah it’s fine

i know what i want for my laptop