#wiiflow loads up, but when game is launched reboots

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spice night
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Hey, I have used WiiFlow in the past. and it worked perfectly, never had any issues. I didnt play my Wii for a few months since there was a lot of new PC games and I didnt had much time as I used to. When I decided to power up my Wii again and launch WiiFlow, WiiFlow will refuse to boot. After reinstaling - WiiFlow, d2x and IOS WADs, WiiFlow boots up and shows all my games. After launching any game that previously worked flawlessly, none work. Shows a glimpse of the WiiFlow logo, fastly flashes the blue light and then reboots the whole console.
Im using a SD Card formatted to Fat32, all worked previously before. Dont know what happened. In the file I included the syscheck.

📎 sysCheck.csv
cursive wave
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Go into Wii mod lite, delete iOS slots 202,222,223,224,236,245,246,247,248 and then you need to follow this guide to update your cios https://wii.guide/cios.html

Wii Guide
cIOS

Wii modding guide

spice night
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Will try Ill get back with an update

cursive wave
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You might need to update other homebrew apps as well

spice night
cursive wave
spice night
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welp deleting the iOS slots + following the guide didnt help still reboots after launching

cursive wave
spice night
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Sure thing, give me a minute

cursive wave
# spice night

Don’t know if this will do anything, but try deleting iOS 16 and 36

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Also, unrelated, I recommend you install priiloader and bootmii, as those have important brick protection measures

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Priiloader also just has a bunch of helpful utilities as well

spice night
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sure thing, will try/install

cursive wave
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For priiloader it’s recommended that you turn on region free everything, block disc updates, block online updates, and wiimmfi patch

spice night
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Ill do everything tommorow since its 2am here :Ddd, but thanks for trying to help me, appreciate it!

copper quail
spice night
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How exactly do u perform a system update if I may ask? I think ik but, I just want to be sure

copper quail
spice night
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Theres a pop-up saying stuff about unauthorized modification is it ok?

copper quail
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yes

spice night
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uhm welp the Wii now states "The system files are corrupted, please refer to...."

copper quail
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whatlol

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i mean you still have priiloader right

spice night
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I ejected the sd card and boots fine

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welp lets try it again :dd

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Just gives me an error code: 32007

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Just tried launching a game for fun, and yea still boots me out after starting

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At least the wii shows that i booted the game up :Dd, i have like 5 game session of 00:01

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(please dont hate the cable management in the back ill work on it someday :dd)

copper quail
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turn off block online updates in priiloader then

spice night
spice night
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nice it is updating now

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Well It’s updated now, but still refuses to launch any games

copper quail
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also when you reinstalled wiiflow did you delete everything related to it first?

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just curious

spice night
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I got a fresh new sd card and deleted the folder in the wii data management

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installed the newest version of wiiflow that was available on that new sd card

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oh wait should i have deleted the wiiflow folder from the sd card data management???

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cause i only deleted the block on the wii data management

copper quail
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you're confusing me

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data management isn't a full blown file manager

copper quail
spice night
copper quail
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via your pc

spice night
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I didnt delete it form here but only the wii folder block thingy next to it

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thats what i meant originally

spice night
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this is how its looking rn

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Still doesnt work ://

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I unfortunately have to go out but if anyone has any tips that might help or you see anything wrong please let me know, thanks in advance!

floral bobcat
copper quail
floral bobcat
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Ah good to know, thx! Haven't played alot with dolphin yet, was mostly using it just to test my games dumps...

atomic peak
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Suffering a similar problem here. The game boots up fine, but then freezes at random. It doesn't always end in a black screen, but the game is definitely frozen. Afaik only 1 game in my HDD does this.

spice night
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Guys, does anyone have some more tips or anything im getting pretty desperate nothing helps and idk what to do next maybe reinstall all the games and get new ones? Or is there a way to completly wipe off homebrew and do the process completly all over again ?

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When you try and force cIOS 249 just flashes the WiiFlow logo and restarts, 250 shows the WiiFlow logo for a few seconds (maybe like 10) and restarts and 251 also shoes the WiiFlow logo for a few seconds and then restarts

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Can a gamecube controller and Memory card maybe cause this, that is somehow just restarts every time, because the Wii in the message board always shows up the game running so it knows that it was turned ON

atomic peak
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from my experience, the presence or absence of those doesnt change the outcome

spice night
atomic peak
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hell, not even installing priiloader fixed the issue for me. granted, i am too afraid to mess with usbloader/backup settings, so i always leave them both as default

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not even formatting my hard drive was enough!

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and i doubt formatting my console as whole will help either

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i might start just randomly poking around settings, enabling/disabling each one, change each possible value one at a time

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in other words, i would resort to bruteforcing

spice night
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Its a shame cause it all worked flawlessly like few months ago

atomic peak
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me too

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but one day my hdd corrupted for some reason. i was able to restore it after formatting it through guiformat, but now one of my games dont work anymore

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the others work flawlessly afaik

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there's a usb loader called cfg loader/configurable usb loader

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i dont wanna poke my nose around shit i dont know

spice night
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I mean none of my stuff corrupted but WiiFlow just refused to boot so i reinstalled it and now it just refuses to boot the games

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I even got my second sd card for the whole new procces

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and yet it still wont budge

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  • i bought a gc controller in hope that it will be an easy enough fix to play zelda windwaker and here we are
copper quail
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i dont want to associate it with the modded system menu ios but like theres nothing else

atomic peak
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Weird thing is, that for my case, GC games run flawlessly

spice night
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I might try them later then since thats all I really want to play now

atomic peak
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as far as i have tested, yes. and most wii games too. for me, the issue only applies to the wii version of Pikmin 1

spice night
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ohhh welp ill try the gc games at least, since none of my Wii games work

atomic peak
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and it isnt even a black screen on boot. the game boots normally, but after a few minutes, the game will randomly freeze, music still playing and everything

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it doesnt even necessarily result in a black screen. in some rare occasions, it looks up mid-gameplay

spice night
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Maybe you installed a flawed version of Pikmin or it might not be compatible, is it like in a specific section?

atomic peak
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idk. thing is, i have deleted my pikmin 1 save file from my system memory multiple times, and no dice. it happens as early as the first half of the tutorial

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for now, i'm just downloading a vc inject of it onto my wii u

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i dont know what else to do

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i havent tried loading the game from sd card, but i dont wanna risk it

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vc injects on wii u are a good quick-fix. no clue about a DEFINITIVE fix for the problem, tho

spice night
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U might try it

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U never know what might work :Ddd

atomic peak
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i'm telling you that vc injects work flawlessly, but i dont know how to permanently fix the problem

atomic peak
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to check the integrity of my wbfs file, do i have to use a hex editor or some such?

atomic peak
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still couldnt make it work on my hdd tho

spice night
atomic peak
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not even updating d2x cios solved the issue

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nothing is working...

floral linden
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Wii flow randomly broke for me too overnight was working just fine yesterday

atomic peak
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i've tried everything. i cannot begin to understand the underlying cause of the issue, and the fact that this issue never used to happen despite always using the same hard drive just rubs salt in the wound

spice night
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It really does suck

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Welp guess i have to actually buy the games now again gonna be a pain in the ass :ddd

atomic peak
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the cheapest copy of pikmin 1 could find in my country is like, 80 dollars

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and its the PAL version

spice night
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ughhh

floral linden
spice night
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Thats absurd

spice night
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I used to play only wii games and WiiFlow was good enough

floral linden
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I recommend you to download the openshopchannel to your apps folder on your sd card. It is useful for many reasons. It has nintendont software. This was the only way I could bypass needing wii flow to boot my gc games today before I know what happened to my install.

spice night
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Ill definitely give it a try, since its more cheaper to get a new Wii then pay for the games lmao

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thank u!

copper quail
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wiiflow is reliant on nintendont for gc games

spice night
atomic peak
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does anyone have any idea how to make pikmin 1 wii work again?

floral linden
# atomic peak to check the integrity of my wbfs file, do i have to use a hex editor or some su...

It is hard to get all the info from skimming your messages because I do not understand what a vc injection does or is. I just want to say that I can not understand why you are trying to save your copy of the wbfs file by examination of its data in a hex editor before you would just download it again from a different source. I’m not trying to be rude at all, just wondering whether you have considered this?

atomic peak
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vc injection is grabbing the rom of the game and using software to insert it into the wii u menu as if it were a virtual console title

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well, i tried downloading a rom of pikmin from 2 different rom sites that i knew were trustworthy from experience. neither worked.

floral linden
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Okay thanks, in that case my bad. I truly just did not understand then. I still think that if this involves downloading a copy of an iso and converting it to a wbfs file or just downloading it then I might try to get it from the internet archive link at the roms subreddit

atomic peak
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well, i downloaded an rvz of the game, used dolphin to convert it to iso, then used wii backup manager to convert the iso to wbfs

floral linden
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That’s what I would do too, I am genuinely sorry you are having so much trouble trying to play Pikmin. I would just want to play some Pikmin too.

atomic peak
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funnily enough, pikmin 2 works flawlessly

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also, i dont know if this is related at all, but please take a look at this. when you compare the information of pikmin 1 against the other 9 roms present in the file, you'll see a discrepancy

📎 disc.info
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there is an extra line of text not present in the other roms, and the partition code is all wrong

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this is why i was considering editing the rom's data with a hex editor

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i dont see why it would affect anything, but maybe this could be the cause of the error?

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but it cant be, because the rom works perfectly on dolphin, and on console as long as it is loaded through sd card instead of hard drive

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at this point i'm just throwing a bunch of shit at a wall to see which sticks lmfao

floral linden
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I did take a look and I see what you mean

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@atomic peak Are you aware that you have Pikmin 1 on a different partition than the rest of your games?

atomic peak
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what?

floral linden
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The partition code line on the disc.info file you shared with me for Pikmin 1 is different than the rest of your games

atomic peak
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my hard drive only has a single partition, and pikmin 1, and every other game, is in that same partition. not even once did i ever create any extra partitions on my hard drive. so no, i was not aware of that

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another thing that concens me is the presence of the "md5 hash" line that is not present in any other rom

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but how do i fix the partition issue?

floral linden
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Hi again, I think that you should try to verify the integrity of the file with dolphin but this time you will use the integrity verification tools for their intended purpose. Check the file that is on your hdd and keep it seperate from any other copies of Pikmin on your pc.

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anything shows up I would first try to reconvert the file and begin from the rvz stage all over again. and if it were me I would download it from a different source than the one you used for this install. or just download it again if the source was good.

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even if nothing shows up, unfortunately that is all I've got for not being able to run Pikmin 1 for the wii on wiiflow. usbloadergx might work

atomic peak
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which version of dolphin are you using?

floral linden
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here are the links I explored when I first thought that an error in the rvz to iso to wbfs conversion proccess may have occurred

Explanation Guide for new Dolphin Verify Integrity Feature

I am currently on the latest Dev build as of typing this. I saw the new Dolphin feature for verifying if your dumps are actually done right/not edited etc., and so I wanted to throw my iso's and other

Compressing iso file leads to error in verify integrity

Hi, I recently tried to convert one iso file to wbfs format and checked with dolphin verification tool if the file is ok. Unfortunately, I received 2 errors. So, I decided to check if the file which w

atomic peak
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this is what i got

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floral linden
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bad dump means source a new rvz to convert

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in this case, that its not working

atomic peak
floral linden
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no problem, you should find a different host to download the file from. the internet archive is a good start on the roms subreddit. I dont know if i can link to it or not on this discord 🏴‍☠️

atomic peak
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yar har fiddle dee dee, y'know what i'm sayin'

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now idk if rvz or gcz is recommended

floral linden
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Download the rvz or download a known good wbfs file direct from a website that can’t be named here but you can find pretty easily by just googling keywords I just gave you. The moderators set restrictions that won’t allow me to write the name of the website here

atomic peak
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i figure the rvz has a greater chance of failure?

floral linden
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There are just more possible points of failure

atomic peak
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will try both

floral linden
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Downloading it in that way (unnamed site) is always slower than from rvz, though I’ve never encountered an error before by doing it this way (talking of converting from rvz)

atomic peak
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are you talking about a website or a man-made lovecraftian horror?

floral linden
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I just play Mario kart wii

atomic peak
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Funny thing is, the rvz itself and the resulting iso after conversion are both good dumps

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It's the conversion from iso to wbfs that makes this ROM in particular result in a bad dump. Since every other ROM I have doesn't crash on me, I think it's safe to assume that wbfs conversion results in good dumps for those

atomic peak
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I seriously don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm just using Wii backup manager like everyone else. To be more specific, I add the iso, select it, then click "transfer" and then "wbfs" and choose the wbfs folder in my hard drive. This has worked for literally every other game.

floral linden
atomic peak
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Well, I know that:
1 - using the virtual console version of Pikmin 1 on Wii u works
2 - loading the problematic ROM from SD card (don't ask me how that works, I don't know either) works

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What I don't get is that one would assume that the ROM never worked from the start, but the exact same ROM used to work in my hard drive in the past.

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Another thing: I saw in the USB loader game compatibility chart that the Pikmin 1 (USA Wii version) ROM is 3.4GB, but when I use Wii backup manager, the resulting wbfs file is only 2.07GB

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I don't how to explain this 1.33gb discrepancy

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Look for the ntsc-u version of Pikmin 1 here

Screenshot_20230116_113426_Firefox.jpg
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It's reported to be 3.4gb and works without issues or caveats

floral linden
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As far as I know it is normal for the file size to change (sometimes drastically), when converting it to wbfs from an iso using wbfs manager.

I am sorry to say that I don’t think I can offer any more information. It seems like your issue might be wii u specific, and I wouldn’t want you to waste your willpower trying solutions that won’t work out any longer. That is because I don’t know the first thing about the wii u and injecting. For that reason I recommend you to post about the issue you are having here:

and the steps you took to try to troubleshoot so far. I hope that someone with a much better understanding and maybe some prior experience with something similar will help you. I am not sure beyond that as we have explored everything that is to my knowledge already that I would be able to offer you. I really hope you find someone on that forum help, that’s where the professionals are who I hope will be able to help

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atomic peak
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Btw, what does the "Conf." column in the picture I posted earlier mean?

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Also, the issue isn't restricted to Wii u, as I think it's a problem with USB loaders in general, so it applies to both Wii and vWii

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Oh, and take a look at this:

Screenshot_20230116_114556_Firefox.jpg
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I know this is the pal version of Pikmin 2, but the file size of my ntsc-u ROM of the game matches the 1.9Xgb file size, so I believe these file sizes are for wbfs files

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I think I may have lost a few weeks worth of sleep over this issue...

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If I could, I'd probably have pulled a few all-nighters

floral linden
atomic peak