what site is it
#code-talk
fickle aurora
fickle aurora
well if it's a website, you almost have no choice but to connect via hostname, but if it is server based with no virtual hostnames then you are better off using ip directly
if you are resolving hostname that is where the issue lies, because you can resolve a hostname to both ipv4 and/or ipv6
pure sierra
back later
fickle aurora
what I mean by virtual hostname is like this - you can have one IP address and one port hosting many domain names
the way the server determines which site you connect to is based on quite literally the hostname text you resolved
traditionally, most of the internet services are 1 IP and port to one service, whereas HTTP servers are mostly 1 IP and port to multiple services (domain names)
that is also why you can have so many security issues with websites, you never, ever want to have secure customer data on a website that shares the same IP/port with another website, essentially you want that IP/port dedicated to one domain (or only -your- domains if you do decide to use virtual hostnames)
one great example of a security hole from virtual hostnames in this situation is certificate spoofing, since certificates use IP to hostname verification as one of the main verifications
pure sierra
@fickle aurora sorry but im pretty sure u cant have more than one service/server on a ip\port
long raft
its not that they cant figure out ipv6, its that nobody cares about ipv6 anymore
pure sierra
isnt it atleast for a shortage of ip
long raft
we were supposed to run out years ago
ipv6 became unnecessary as everyone relied on NAT and nat-punching
it doesnt really offer 95% of people anything they want
if it were a drop-in replacement for ipv4 it would expose you to the internet, and if you set it up properly the configurations are more complicated than ipv4
also its poorly implemented, like the specification said IPSEC encryption was mandatory but nobody does it
pure sierra
error 11004
WSANO_DATA (11004) Valid name, no data record of requested type
Berkeley description: The requested name is valid, but does not have an Internet IP address at the name server. This is not a temporary error. This means another type of request to the name server will result in an answer.
WinSock description: Same as Berkeley for host resolution. For protocol and services resolution, the name or number was not found in the respective database.
identical to WSANO_ADDRESS (11004)* No address, look for MX record
ESocketException: connect: WSocketResolveProto: Cannot convert protocol
'tcp', Error # 11004
You can change Proto with '6' insteand of 'tcp'. However it is the tcp stack that is not properly
installed or they have messes around with it. In C:\WinNT\System32\drivers\etc there is a file
'protocol' (without extention) that holds all the proto's. Eventually you can just copy it from
another machine.
pure sierra
@lunar cobalt @fickle aurora @zealous sonnet @long raft @lean forum I just fixed a second players network problems ( @proud mirage ) he used to be able to play but not for some months. He could get into home region but not travel, and had error in top right small text saying 'War Service connection failed. Error: Connection Failed could not initialize connection' .
After trying different things, I reviewed hes War.log and found several lib web socket errors, the first being 'getprotobyname() failed with error 11004' after some googling as to the origin and function of getprotobyname() it seems it is not a lws function but a native c one, and found it relates to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\protocol file, infact it seems getprotobyname uses and relies on the protocol 'index' file. And it turned out this players file was missing for what ever reason, so i gave him a copy from a win10 machine i have and just like magic it started working again, and he`s very happy to be able to try out all the new content and changes. ๐
long raft
nuts
icanari maybe you could post the file and description in tech chat
i must admit ive never seen or looked at this index file
pure sierra
pretty weird, no idea why missing
lunar cobalt
pure sierra
thats it
pure sierra
its like dns but between common alpha name and the index numbers
so you can do getprotobyname(TCP) or getprotobyname(6)
lunar cobalt
I hate it
pure sierra
or getprotobyname(MYPROTOCOL) if there is an entry for it
pure sierra
i laughed at the copyright line too, hasnt changed in a while
lunar cobalt
yeah
That's XP
And Server 2003
Vista was '07
So you wonder why windows just doesn't install it sometimes
pure sierra
not sure, i googled, and cant find any results of others with the missing file so, maybe some 3rd party thing did it
lunar cobalt
maybe something tried to add a protocol to it and corrupted it so windows just deleted it?
pure sierra
or just scandisk coz it happened to get corrupt from power reset
zealous sonnet
@pure sierra Thanks, we'll investigate.
pure sierra
so its not so much a problem your end,
nor sure if/how many others have had the problem
just something to keep in mind if it comes up again
or you could just use getprotobyname(6) to maybe avoid relying on the file
lunar cobalt
wouldn't that just grab it from the same file though
pure sierra
from what i can tell the protocol file is a link between the alpha names and numeric index
lunar cobalt
The file also has the numbers in it though
So I'm guessing if you said getprotobynum(6) it would check what 6 is on this file, and then keep going
pure sierra
6 is not anything in the file, its kinda one way
lunar cobalt
ip 0 IP # Internet protocol
icmp 1 ICMP # Internet control message protocol
ggp 3 GGP # Gateway-gateway protocol
tcp 6 TCP # Transmission control protocol```tcp 6 TCP #Transmission Control Protocol
pure sierra
A text file that provides resolution of protocol names into their respective RFC-defined protocol numbers on a TCP/IP network.
it goes from name or alias/s to number
linux even has one too https://linux.die.net/man/5/protocols
long raft
my thinking is they would have these problems everywhere not just foxhole, wouldnt they?
pure sierra
ud think so, but maybe the file is not relied on as much
lunar cobalt
I'm guessing a lot of stuff either bypasses it or brings its own definition
long raft
shouldnt it be used for every single socket that gets opened?
pure sierra
it would seem not, as afaik had no other problems
and was using browser/discord and even got into the home region
test, delete own file and find out ;p
fickle aurora
hayden what I was saying is that with apache you can do virtual hosts which allows you to host multiple domain names or websites on one IP and port - this is how it's done on many large scale cheap operations, but at the same time it introduces a lot of security issues
pure sierra
ah ok, got it
fickle aurora
that is why businesses need to be weary about how their website is hosted
pure sierra
why is there security vulnerability to using vhosts and same ip
fickle aurora
because if you use SSL then someone else with another website on the same IP as virtual host can spoof easily
then again, the hosting provider themselves could be spoofing all the clients website certificates and basically steal all encrypted data
also on the topic of nat, nat only really is deployed with home routers or in businesses... most people still largely all have an assigned public IP on their modem... IPv6 is already widely deployed for mobile internet and asia/europe for internet service, but again, if you are not actually using ipv6 yourself it is best disabled to avoid problems
pure sierra
sure, but within a vps where you are the only ip user for different websites than is ther still a risk ? assuming you are only one in dev control of the websites
lunar cobalt
no need to disable ipv6 at least on my ISP, it only sends ipv6 info if asked specifically for it
fickle aurora
yeah it depends though, if your ISP supports ipv6 but does not actually route ipv6, that is really where the issue lies
lunar cobalt
All major american ISPs route ipv6
fickle aurora
if it is only half implemented that is when you have connectivity issues, if it is disabled completely, then the OS will ignore it and just use ipv4
you'd be surprised how badly implemented american ISPs have done it
lunar cobalt
No i wouldn't be surprised
fickle aurora
well in canada anyway, it is a nightmare on Bell, if you are on Bell in certain areas, it is really mucked up - I don't know who they hire at their centers, but it is plain junk - I found Rogers implemented it just fine however
lunar cobalt
You're talking about american ISPs
I expect the worst possibly version of anything from them
fickle aurora
on Rogers you have to force the apn on mobile to use IPv6 though, it defaults to ipv4
the only beef I had with them was their throttling of certain things
when I traveled I used verizon and family mobile, and of course verizon ended up being superior
pure sierra
funny when you talk of throttling of services, as when i was googling the protocol file, some where modifying it among other changes to change the way bittorrent traffic was routed to avoid service shaping/tiering by isp
fickle aurora
I never used bittorrent, it was mostly things like steam that they throttled
fickle aurora
it was fiber to the home
lunar cobalt
all the fiber offerings near me are bullshit
fickle aurora
you'll get good readings from all the major speed test sites, but then you go back to steam and all of a sudden you're back to stone age speeds
lunar cobalt
oh yeah all the major speed test sites are complete BS
fickle aurora
Rogers also admitted publicly in a case that they had throttled World of Warcraft, but not all of us go that far to get them to change their ways lol
long raft
throttled world of warcraft? i wonder why, im sure it barely used any bandwidth
lunar cobalt
downloads maybe?
proud mirage
Honestly thanks to all you guys @pure sierra @lunar cobalt @long raft for all the help guys, was a weird and convoluted issue but you guys were patient with me thanks again.
lunar cobalt
^
proud mirage
It's true hayden was especially helpful but I appericiate y'all taking a shot
pure sierra
i really didnt think it would be so easy such that we could fix it, so got lucky
kind glacier
(There's 2 hard problems in computer science: Naming things, Cache Invalidation, and off-by-one errors).
barren quarry
invented a trick for myself, idk if its commonplace
when you need to compare a variable with multiple constants, say, (x === 1 || x ===2)
you can instead write ([1,2].includes(x))
this was like a revelation to me
hollow gyro
ah ha! - Yea I've done that too, technically it's creating an Array Object to do the check but it reads soo mich nicer than a multi-OR-IF
pure sierra
php has in_array
long raft
yea new int[]{1,2}.Contains(y) something you see in c# too
managed languages arent afraid to allocate an array for a test
vague otter
Not only allocate, but also iterate all of it's 2 elements ๐ฑ
craggy pebble
J
cold dune
101000010111010101010101010001010100100100010
tough goblet
fickle aurora
welcome to unicode
lunar cobalt
@tough goblet if I could reach through discord and slap you I would
barren quarry
stale memes
long raft
its a funny idea but youd delete it and retype ; like very first thing, right?
it would take seconds to fix
you wouldnt just keep hitting build and going ๐ค
lunar cobalt
unless you're using one of those IDEs which don't tell you what the error is on the line
long raft
Doesn't sound life much of an IDE
barren quarry
God bless eslint
automatically placing all semicolons for you
automatically indenting
long raft
do you use semi colons in javascript? you know its optional?
fickle aurora
assembly does not use semicolon
pure sierra
@long raft i know, i like to add them
pure sierra
the end is nigh !
languid harness
๐ฆ
kind glacier
rip newgrounds, long live newgrounds
kind glacier
hence the long live newgrounds
fickle aurora
long live perl and cgi-bin scripting
young pilot
Updated the foxhole war map to the new version that is now heavily optimized, using the reactJS web framework (the previous war map was basically just a heap of code stacked on top of each other that made little sense)
take a look https://foxholeglobal.com/map/
it's completely feature-empty though containing only the bare minimum to work, i'll add more features over coming months
pure sierra
seems to run pretty smooth
young pilot
all the code is available on github so feel free to have a peek https://github.com/Sethfire/foxhole-war-map
long raft
loads pretty quick!
long raft
consider webp instead of png for the map, its like half the size
long raft
i have found leaflet is just awful on mobile browsers. open to tips to speed it up
barren quarry
Awful as in?
long raft
very slow and sometimes freezes the phone for seconds or minutes
you havent noticed that?
lunar cobalt
Leaflet doesn't pre-load different zoom levels well I think
So it has to re-grab a bunch of images from the server when you change zoom
long raft
leaflet usually completely chokes my phone
lunar cobalt
Huh, only issue I have with it on mobile most of the time is it loads zoom levels really slowly
young pilot
leaflet is mobile-friendly and lightweight in general. the bigger issue is with the colossal number of map icons that the browser has to load for the war map
pure sierra
i like leaflet
long raft
any of you into DSP? trying to figure out why my high pass filter doesnt work
timber onyx
have you tried turning it off and on again?
long raft
figured you of anybody might be into dsp, disk
timber onyx
well yes but actually no
i had to flunk the class where i learned about it due to covid 
ask me again next semester
i could try to give you some theoretical shit i have about it
@long raft ok i have the stuff in front of me, what exactly is your problem
long raft
so I built a working low-pass filter for audio, tested it, sweet. great.
I do spectral inversion on it, but it doesn't work as a high pass
lets everything through
long raft
after normalizing the low pass filter, i just reverse the sign, add 1 to the middle sample, and voila, right? but no worky
And since I've never implemented a working high pass filter before I'm not certain I'm doing it right
oh I'm using a windowed sinc filter with a blackman window
@timber onyx
languid harness
Idk why but doesnt sound right
Can you show the original spectrogram, the inverted and the two filtered? @long raft
Perhaps the clue can already be found visually
long raft
Oh I haven't drawn it, that's a good idea, might take me some time to do
pure sierra
would have loved to be in game when this happened... again
hollow gyro
2:14am UTC
long raft
aha, spectral inversion is changing every other value's sign, not every value. think I found my problem
it was helpful to draw them tho
pure sierra
@barren quarry stats tab still broken ?
barren quarry
i made a decision to not touch foxhole global hq anymore, its shit code that is impossible to maintain
pure sierra
a lot of work for sure
barren quarry
i dont even know which features are half made and which are complete
pure sierra
just looking to compare summary section working on
young pilot
lol i too made a decision to not touch the old foxhole war map, instead i just completely redid it from scratch. fortunately the project is not large in scale
btw what's icon 54, something to do with the dead harvest?
hollow gyro
99 little errors in the code, 99 little errors, track one down, patch it and now...105 errors in the code
pure sierra
@young pilot maybe the font of balor portal. i couldnt find it in one endpoint i checked , but maybe it is there, or was added...
warm lintel
timber onyx
all code sucks
fickle aurora
people invented extra languages for no reason other than to say they are special because they made a new language, but the vast majority of the web still uses perl
remember, new language == reinventing the wheel ... if the new wheel sucks compared to the old one, don't bother
long raft
but you think computer science peaked in 1970
github list javascript as the #1 language on their site, and perl as #21
fickle aurora
it peaked around 2004, nothing great ever came after that
you may as well use visual basic over C# anyway since anything you can do in C# you can perform more smoothly with less performance drain in visual basic
also most windows software that supports macros will only accept VB 6.0 programming for those macros
long raft
im looking for anything correct in what you said but i cant find it
fickle aurora
perhaps Delta V Operate software? it's quarter million dollar software so I don't think a lot of people own it, but it's used in a lot of manufacturing facilities
pure sierra
javascript sucks but jquery rulez
long raft
not a huge fan of jquery, ive found so many things people use jquery for can be done with vanilla.js so easily, without the additional 100k-1000k library
http://vanilla-js.com/ its really the best javascript framework
pure sierra
never heard of it so it must suck, jk
is it newer than 1975, then it must suck. also wa jk
long raft
well its an interpreted language, so it must have 0 value to humanity
pure sierra
assembly is everything
long raft
too high level. electrical impulses is the only way to really maximize your CPU
pure sierra
also, why the hell is your name green again ? you bad boi
long raft
because ive complained about team imbalance for ... 3 straight years
long raft
kastow is fancy electron man
pure sierra
jquery does what i need so i dont need any better
and its used by most cms i use
@long raft so you figured you would do something about it
long raft
hmm not really. ive only played 1 night. but at least i dont have feelings of guilt or wait times in queue when i do
also its good to see colonials i know
and ya know foxhole global is a colonial exclusive now...
pure sierra
i would feel so dirty if i tried green man
long raft
oh i think ... itd be good for you
people would be like "are you the hayden who made foxholestats?"
youd have some inter-faction celebrity status there
bathe in tomato juice and it will remove any 82dk scent you may still have on you
pure sierra
i never played one op with them, but did slave away building thier defences
not best clan for au
long raft
nah. but hey anzac is going colonial next war i think
pure sierra
i would maybe join anzac, but not sure i could join a non-warden-only clan
pure sierra
but u say they may play green
long raft
yah like first time ever
pure sierra
what pop issue ๐
long raft
thats how bad the imbalance is lately
moorep saw me last week and said "oh derp's here, that must mean its really bad"
barren quarry
turned 25 on the 18th
pure sierra
you are a young bun
barren quarry
how old are you?
pure sierra
late 30's
barren quarry
jesus christ you guys are hella old
pure sierra
i must say i dont think ive met anyone over 50 in foxhole
barren quarry
id bet minibar is pretty close
pure sierra
heheh, is minibar maybars baybe ?
barren quarry
minibar is the leader of 3SP
long raft
you mean we're hella smart and mature and wise
pure sierra
do they start programming in elemetry school in russia ?
barren quarry
the first time i programmed was like in middle school but very basic stuff
like fucking delphi
long raft
im having flashbacks of having to sing patriotic songs in grade school
delphi is ... basic?
barren quarry
from what i remember delphi is like glorified pascal
pure sierra
Delphi in legend previously called Pytho in ancient times was a sacred precinct that served as the seat of Pythia
pure sierra
Boreland is a village in Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland, which is located in Eskdale about 7 miles (11 kilometres) north of Lockerbie on the B723 road to Eskdalemuir. The village has a small primary school.
barren quarry
boreland
long raft
isnt the company borland?
barren quarry
yes
pure sierra
Defunct April 5, 2015
long raft
imagine paying for your compiler or IDE these days... nuts
man who was it here who was selling me on vs code a few months ago? I've really gotten into it, god damn its pretty amazing from the last time i used it
Have you guys seen code-server? It's vs code in a browser...
pure sierra
what is vs code
long raft
can even run it from your android phone...
barren quarry
i use vs code on a daily basis so could have been me
long raft
oh microsoft visual studio code is a rewrite of a development environment for many languages - open source
its fairly good, not every feature of visual studio, but its cross platform, and it has many features visual studio doesnt have
barren quarry
it competes with jetbrains
i use pycharm for python but i think the interface is a bit wack
long raft
my mind was rather blown by code-server, i know that kind of stuff is possible i just never see it executed well
very cool to have an entire IDE on your phone
barren quarry
coding on a phone is stage 4 colon cancer
long raft
meh not for me
i can just broadcast it to my TV or computer screen, and i can just pull out a bluetooth folding keyboard
pure sierra
if i traveled much i would try that maybe
long raft
i want to start doing my development inside containers, so i think im gonna head down this remote coding route
pure sierra
shipping containers ?? why...
long raft
peace and quiet
pure sierra
easy to focus
long raft
yah when you get locked in, youre really in the zone
barren quarry
watch in awe as docker eats your entire ssd
pure sierra
dont connect the net, just have a set of encyclopedia britanica
long raft
docker? please. like im gonna give root access to my containers
k8s or podman, brother.
@pure sierra yea a shipping container with a mobile phone IDE and programming books that dont go past 2004
pure sierra
wildman heaven
long raft
makes me want to go purge my book shelves of anything pre-2004
void marlin
Hey, i try to implement E-Tags for the API. but it seems I kill the server by using them... any help?
void marlin
it is just the representation. the data is properly handled, this is Guzzle a HTTPClient package
void marlin
yes, if i dont pass it, i get the right response. if i do, i 500 the foxhole server
long raft
ok so its just a small error
so an etag is unique to the API call, I think
you cant use the same etag for different kind of API requests, as far as i know
void marlin
the foxhole api docs state that i should send the key, i get from the header in the 200 response.
https://github.com/clapfoot/warapi#rate-limiting-and-caching
that is what i do. first i dont have one. so i send none.
it works, i get one.
then i start sing it, and i get 500...
long raft
its a cache mechanism
long raft
so youre doing the exact same query twice? but the second time uses the etag?
void marlin
yes
void marlin
yes
long raft
perhaps the casing is wrong
void marlin
I use what they state. it is also what Mozilla defines:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/ETag
long raft
it sure looks right to me...
void marlin
do the Devs look at this?
long raft
I think uhh ... adam does, sometimes
im not sure ...lots of people here know the api tho
void marlin
so maybe someone in #code-talk can help me? ๐
long raft
@pure sierra has used the api using php im pretty sure
perhaps not laravel specifically
i dont use a user-agent, i wonder if that could make any difference
otherwise i see no difference, not sure if theres any way you can take a look at the raw request headers that get sent to curl or whatever is making that http call
perhaps theres some mangling between guzzle and the remote web server
lunar cobalt
Could use wireshark to grab the packets
long raft
@void marlin i notice in your example the first request gives back "317", but then you respond with 300. Also note the additional set of quotation marks - this may be important, I know I just copy it as-is, meaning with the quotations
3 commends says its the additional quotation marks that are needed
void marlin
the 300 would be a client that didnt ask the api for maybe 1hour or so. should work. 300 was an old valid etag.
i just tried with 324 ( i got it and send it directly after. got 500 as well. tried with quotation mars and without.
barren quarry
xmlhttprequest onreadystatechange 2 if etags match abort
thank you for attention
That is if you're using js
long raft
hes using php
void marlin
if i send the header with the wrong name it works, as i get the response. so the server is reading my etag header and then it is dying.
@barren quarry please dont be a dick. if you think you know the answer, and it is easy explain it nice.
@barren quarry the documentation states that i should get a 304 Not Modified response.
barren quarry
i'm a javascript programmer so i answered in javascript
i have never seen php so i cant help very much with that
the mechanics of xhr is that you get response tags first and then decide if you want to continue
and if etags match the previous response, you abort the request
long raft
he has all the mechanics right, its just some fine detail thats having issue
have you tried without a user agent, yet?
i do not believe that header is required and it might be causing the issue, i know i dont use it
and again, the quotations should be copied
can confirm its working fine for me.
"341"
i get the 304 response as expected
lets see if it works without quotes...
mine blows up if i strip the quotations out
pretty sure thats your issue, or that and a combination of the user-agent
void marlin
it is in quotes
long raft
"\"342\""
there is an extra set of quotes
literal quotes in the string
look at the etag you get back on the first request, it has extra quotes - you have to copy those
i think you are saving it somewhere as an integer but it needs to be kept as a string
void marlin
lol
i did. but the package did ignore them. i hat to use ' "300" ' as "300" would become 300... thank you.
long raft
yep
long raft
it was the quotes
long raft
yes
steep surge
@long raft @pure sierra @barren quarry @void marlin
void marlin
Oh, Minibar, such a nice guy. And 3SP... The best Crew ๐
void marlin
I thought php is dead
@barren quarry looking at the way you write DB stuff in Node... trust me there is a reason for PHP Laravel ๐คฃ
barren quarry
@void marlin that code was written 1.5 years ago
when i knew almost nothing about javascript
i myself consider that code a pile of garbage
but there is really no competition
so for some reason some people like it
void marlin
I like it as well. I will use the UI as part of my wardenHQ ๐
with a new backend.
void marlin
dont be. people live it.
but maybe, how do i init the sqlite and what does the .env need? i think that is missing.
chilly burrow
im proud of the UI ๐ฅ
fickle aurora
for all the preppers out there with mechanical clocks the time has rolled back one hour if your area uses daylight savings time
long raft
Lol
coral sundial
My digital clock doesn't roll back an hour
long raft
time to get new clocks huh
timber onyx
daylight savings is a scam, fun fact
people actually die from daylight savings
the only reason we have it is because some rich guys a long time ago wanted to have more time to stroll outside during the day
pure sierra
i wish we didnt have it
fickle aurora
it gives us something to do in the spring when the boss calls and says we're 1 hour late for work
long raft
i have oft considered moving to arizona or hawaii
fallen canopy
PNW
Get lost in the rainforests
Off grid forest hut
Elon's satellite internet comes through and you've got 100mbps at decent ping
Plenty enough to live your life in the middle of nowhere and play foxhole, only seeing people when you journey out for the monthly resupply
long raft
no i just dont like changing clocks
fickle aurora
satellite and decent ping don't fall into the same sentence
this is coming from someone who has used satellite internet since late 90s
low earth orbit is around 600ms latency, the companies will lie and tell you it's down to 300ms, and they can legally get away with lying, because, well, yeah, 300ms is for the signal going one direction
so yes you can ping the gateway at 300ms but if you want to actually ping anything other than the gateway in the sky, it will be 600ms
regular satellites out in high orbit are about 1000-1500ms latency
lunar cobalt
@fickle aurora in presentations to the FCC, which companies are under oath for, starlink has been tested at under 50ms latency to the internet.
As well, people who have been testing the service recently during the beta have been getting around that latency.
fickle aurora
hmm... yeah let's see what I get on low earth orbit satellite...
fickle aurora
I would be very surprised if starlink can actually beat that, likely the 50ms they are advertising is from cellular tower based mobile internet, not from satellite
fickle aurora
if you really think you can get 50ms on satellite.. I have a moon to sell ya
it's just not possible
lunar cobalt
Starlink doesn't run their satellites in the normal geostationary orbits
They're way closer to earth
fickle aurora
I know they use low earth orbit
lunar cobalt
340km above the surface
fickle aurora
my satellite internet service aka xplornet recently switched us from regular orbit satellites to low earth orbit
the difference in ping was huge but not 50ms I can say that
lunar cobalt
Xplornet satellites sit in a band 35785km above the surface
fickle aurora
they resell the satellite service from other companies man they literally don't own the whole satellite
it used to be provided by hughesnet long ago I am not sure now
lunar cobalt
Starlink satellites sit 105 times closer to earth than the satellites you're using
lunar cobalt
It very much is yes
coral sundial
I said fight me
fickle aurora
lol
lunar cobalt
No
So yeah, the reason Starlink has that low latency is because they're really really close to earth compared to other satellite providers.
fickle aurora
yes that is called low earth orbit satellites aka what xplornet sells service from now
lunar cobalt
No.
coral sundial
someone needs to snap mr musk out of his delusions and tell him he needs to invest in a fiberglass internet company
fickle aurora
the one you are quoting really far from earth is the old outdated system
in the past 15 years we had changed satellites 3 different times
the original one was 1500ms
lunar cobalt
From what you said, you're currently using Via Sat 2
Or maybe ViaSat 3, but they're both Geosync'd at 35K km
fickle aurora
I would have to check on my account and see what it is hooked to now
the old modems were viasat modems but every time they switch satellites they have to change out the modem
the same internet provider has 4G LTE which probably has 50ms latency, but I can already get better unlimited internet plans from other cell providers
lunar cobalt
Xplornet currently operates Satellite Internet from 2 satellites, ViaSat 2 and EchoStar XIX
lunar cobalt
Both of those satellites sit in a Geosynchronous orbit at 35,786km above Earth's equator.
The reason most internet satellites aren't in LEO is that they don't have a large view of the planetary surface, so you need a lot of them.
long raft
what kind of transfer caps do they have?
lunar cobalt
Starlink?
pure sierra
none yet
long raft
yea
lunar cobalt
Haven't heard anything about any
pure sierra
$99/m
lunar cobalt
There probably will be some, because satellite gets fucky without transfer caps, but that's being partially mitigated with the fact that there's just a fuckton of satellites to send data at, so they can handle more incoming and outgoing data
fickle aurora
ok I think you are right, they haven't actually moved over to low earth orbit yet
lunar cobalt
They won't
The only feasible way to run satellite internet in low earth orbit is through a constellation of microsats
fickle aurora
well we already signed up for it but we were told it won't be active until next year
lunar cobalt
So unless they go to microsats, you'll never get consistent coverage from the LEO satellites
It'll be switching back and forth from the Geostat ones to the LEO ones
fickle aurora
but at 600ms, gaming is nearly implausible, most websites that use jsnode end up failing to load due to timeout, lots of problems
lunar cobalt
Yep, that's the problem with satellite that Starlink is aiming to solve
fickle aurora
I had to change MTU packet size long ago to make the old system work on websites
most people leave it at 1.5kb per packet
long raft
remember the old days where cable internet was download only and it was dial-up for the upload?
fickle aurora
I remember that for one way satellite
then two-way satellite came out and there were 2 cables connected from modem to the dish
now it's one cable, I am guessing serial transfer
the mining company uses synchronous transfer, so upload and download are same speed on their satellite connection
the latency was absolutely terrible on that and in the evening everyone using the net to check email or whatever after work made it slow like a crawl
lunar cobalt
Starlink you just stick an ethernet cable into the ground terminal and it goes
fickle aurora
interesting because every other satellite system uses coax connected to a modem
unless they are referring to plugging the ethernet cable into the modem
there will probably be lots of angry customers over starlink when they find out how bad satellite is
lunar cobalt
Doubt it
fickle aurora
I can bet they will lock people into 10 year contracts like xplornet did long ago
now they can only do maximum 2 or 3 year contracts
lunar cobalt
As much as I hate saying "oh this is revolutionary", starlink is literally revolutionizing the entire system of satellite internet.
fickle aurora
once people are locked into paying for it, musk isn't going to care, the money will cover the cost of the business end and as for quality of service, they will just give you a telephone number to some call center offshore
like every other internet provider does
then they will spend millions hiring people to comb through the internet for negative feedback and launch massive lawsuits to stop people from reviewing their bad service
fallen canopy
Oops I forgot that this conversation was in code-talk rather than in general
lunar cobalt
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
fallen canopy
Yes the ping is decent, it's very close to earth, and closer to earth than say, the ISS. The lower the altitude, the smaller the distance between sat to sat, and receiver-to-receiver. 75ms falls far short of what hypothetical values say it could be, but when pricing in everything else, it's pretty damn good
It's also worth noting that consumer customers won't be the only ones using the network, but high value contracts are forming between financial trade hubs and stock markets to make use of those potential low pings if they can be put into practice
It's significant.
As for contracts and consumer support, eh
fickle aurora
I think if I was trading stock every day I would just move to toronto and use fiber, I wouldn't rely on a connection that stops working every time a cloud passes over
fallen canopy
Can't be worse than what already exists for rural customers
That's the thing, it's not day traders
lunar cobalt
It's AI
It's AIs that make trades based on millisecond differences between the different trading hubs
fallen canopy
It's whole institutions, who can't move, already have operations, and already have those operations automated via the net
lunar cobalt
Line 10ish years ago a company literally laid a line of fiber optic between chicago and New York at the cost of 300 million plus for a 3 millisecond faster route
long raft
such absurdity
lunar cobalt
And they're making billions out of renting the use of that line, and even more off the trading margins.
fickle aurora
I think what will enhance this the most will be 5G, because of more bandwith capability, but I am very skeptical on the actual latency
lunar cobalt
Starlink doesn't have to really worry about making a ton of money from residential consumers, because they can charge truly massive amounts of money from large corporations and traders to reduce their latency to the NYSE & CSE
fallen canopy
According to FCC stats for initial testing, apparent max sat throughput per satellite is 20Gbps, with an initial total constellation size of 12'000 and plans for 30'000 on top of that
For residential consumers, it's going to be significant even if it's not as fast as the average in a city with fibre
lunar cobalt
Most US cities don't have good fiber
fallen canopy
They won't care about it being great as long as it's better than rural cable
lunar cobalt
Yup.
timber onyx
i still find it funny how old people treat fiber optics as this new technology
the classes i took on the basics of fiber optics are themselves more than 10 years old
and yet even my professors talked about it like it's this revolutionary new technology
fallen canopy
It's the gap between introduction and widespread implementation
timber onyx
yeah, that and recent technological improvements
the fiber optic itself is old shit but what you can do with it is getting a lot of attention
my first intern job was at a tiny company that only sold a device they bought the patent to, by making a fiber optic turn in a specific way you can increase the quality of the signal by a pretty significant margin
maybe i still have the video
fallen canopy
Egh. Memories of optics classes still put me in a bad mood, and I just graduated this year
But yeah, some US towns have services that cap at 25Mbps for $145/month
Or worse for similar prices, with no alternatives
kind glacier
french?
timber onyx
yup
timber onyx
so i'll take a guess that it isn't the government that pays for fiber optic installations?
fallen canopy
Depends on the government, depends on the area. Here in the UK, there are national projects, and county projects, from what I recall it's similar in the US but with more granularity for states/counties/etc
kind glacier
so i'll take a guess that it isn't the government that pays for fiber optic installations?
Dunno, might be the municipality
Nah, looks like it's commercial companies that do it
timber onyx
then that explains why they would deem some places not "worthy" of getting installations
fallen canopy
Talking of which, I'm still mad that my apartment building still hasn't been connected to the city's fibre net
kind glacier
still get just shy of 10MB/s usually
fickle aurora
in canada bell fiber is what most people try to get
timber onyx
i get like 50MB/s and i live in a suburb, shit sucks
kind glacier
At least it's not 450KB/s anymore. I remember downloading BF3 for a full day
timber onyx
bell can suck a dick
fickle aurora
lol
timber onyx
price fixing assholes
kind glacier
shit man, 50MB/s is blazingly fast compared to 10MB/s
fickle aurora
robbers is not much better
timber onyx
they're all bad
timber onyx
canadians pay the most out of literally any country in that stuff
fallen canopy
fickle aurora
for a while we paid about 150/mo for satellite
timber onyx
when you look at it all the companies in canada offer pretty much the same prices too, it's legal price fixing
fickle aurora
price has gone down a lot
fallen canopy
City's fibre network is 500Mbps
My building is only connected to old copper broadband
fickle aurora
and it used to be 1mbps for that 150/mo
if there was an alternative it would have been used
timber onyx
there is an alternative, it's called the government stepping in
fickle aurora
I was going to get shaw leased line for 450/mo but they were going to bill for the cost of putting lines in which was prohibitively expensive
but for that I could provide service to a few people
timber onyx
i don't know what's with canada and its monopolies but fuck is it annoying
lunar cobalt
US throws money at the telecom providers / ISPs to install fiber, they take the money then don't install fiber
timber onyx
at least you dont have to pay the highest rates in the world
fickle aurora
I know disk but you are lucky if you are in a city
northern remote mines in canada don't have these luxuries unless you are willing to pay for it
lunar cobalt
For cable, the US pays more on average than Canada
timber onyx
who pays for cable though
fickle aurora
but when you make the wage of a miner you can buy lots of things that city folks would cry over
lunar cobalt
Cable internet*
timber onyx
bruh miners make so much money
fickle aurora
but you have to suffer the inconveniences of bad internet service
timber onyx
suffering bad internet for a few months then coming back rich? i'll take that
lunar cobalt
Just have some books and you'll be fine
long raft
got that california dystopia internet
timber onyx
that's slower than i thought california internet would be
long raft
odd numbers mean bad internet, right?
long raft
i grew up on dial up with ...350-400ms latency
timber onyx
why didnt you just buy a better internet like seriously smh
long raft
i got the 1gbps package at the office
timber onyx
christ that's fast
cant believe that tech actually exists now
could download a modern game in less than a minute
and just thinking about the fact that 5G is even usable with internet. maybe one day updates wont take fucking hours
lunar cobalt
doubt it
they'll make sure updates take a long time so they can force you to buy preferred connections
timber onyx
fuck it then i'll just go to china
long raft
in singapore 2gbps synchronous is like ... 75 sgd/mo lol
something ridiculous
when the internet cant keep up with you
10 gbps lan is now affordable option
neat fossil
Fumoffu! โค๏ธ
pure sierra
@neat fossil ๐บ 
neat fossil
@pure sierra ๐
kind glacier
Now that I have time on my hands, I should get back to trying to get the war api to work in unity
half cradle
Does mapName change or is it pretty consistent from war to war?
pure sierra
where is this ?
half cradle
To refrence the different hexes in api
barren quarry
map names dont change
one day i asked phil
why doesnt it have "hex" in the end? change pls
and he said that changing it would be really painful
pure sierra
also DeadLands ....
half cradle
Thanks!
minor swallow
goddamn bro making states in HOI4 without the nudge editor is tedious
i been making states for nearly 2 hours and only have like four
i need to find a fix on github or something
warm lintel
pure sierra
its tough i know
kind glacier
Other languages:
*write to console*
Python:
p r i n t
lunar cobalt
no
pure sierra
echo
timber onyx
you don't realize how important it is to name your functions logically until you have to use somebody else's code that has random words used
languid harness
@kind glacier what ya mean? Just use the anaconda compiler, then you don't even have to use print
coral sundial
You mean LCD_print_GPGGA_data(int message)
Not to be confused with the LCD_puts(char)
languid harness
lol
But that feels like a specific command used for a display on a microcontroller or something
@coral sundial ya lego mindstorm freak
coral sundial
oh
no
well it is for an LCD display
but GPGGA is a nmea GPS data code
and the function just blurts that out on an LCD
well afcourse after I go over it and add some context xD
languid harness
hmmmmm
summer bobcat
did someone say lego mindstorms
long raft
ah those nice visual studio colors are so great
coral sundial
Ahahaha
I just went straight to an already existinf library
Couldnt be arsed and wanted to play with the usart
pure sierra
"back in the 70's you wrote your own libraries, you cant share them coz no net..." @fickle aurora ( @long raft )
pure sierra
"real coders dont use libraries" - also @fickle aurora (tongue in cheek)
long raft
i imagine in his world real coders write 1000 lines a year
long raft
so hayden, people are complaining there is no faction neutral way of calculating storm cannons anymore
dunno if you are interested in adding a feature to foxholestats
pure sierra
oh
long raft
its not really a stats thing, but its also not a logi thing so i didnt do it
long raft
its ... pretty easy
a simple placement overlay would do the trick i think
dunno if you have any thoughts.
or maybe sethfire would add it...
pure sierra
well it would seem it would fit in easier at sethfire, but ive from time to time considered integrating his map into my site as well
pure sierra
yeah that would be fine
long raft
i must admit my code is a little messy - ive got technical debt and it makes me not want to make new changes
nothing about node.js is ... enjoyable
kind glacier
So uhh, how do you tell from the API which map item is the Abandoned Ward townhall?
barren quarry
icontype 5 6 7
sort static data by pythagoras theorem
pick [0]
actually no the other way around
you get the point
kind glacier
you get the point
no I don't actually
barren quarry
you have static data
static data is the array of labels
you pick whatever label you want
get its coordinates
then you have dynamic data
you filter icontypes 5 6 7
which are town halls of three levels
kind glacier
So I need to match static with dynamic
barren quarry
you calculate the distance to each town hall using the pythagoras theorem with coordinate differences
and sort by ascending
kind glacier
distance from where?
barren quarry
from the text label to the town hall
kind glacier
now you've lost me completely
kind glacier
that's what I'm trying to figure out
barren quarry
here is your label
here is your dynamic data
you take every town hall
(and relic bases?)
town halls have icon type 5, 6, or 7
you find delta x and delta y
for every town hall
apply pythagoras theorem to find the distance
you know what pythagoras theorem is right?
kind glacier
Yeah, but so far this is making no sense
barren quarry
and when you find the distance to every town hall, you simply pick the town hall with the least distance
thats how everyone calculates what town hall is named what
kind glacier
They couldn't have just named them :/
barren quarry
@kind glacier do you understand the process?
kind glacier
tbh no
right now though, I'm trying to get the API working in the first place. I had it somehow figured out before but I lost the files.
From what I understand, I take the Abandoned Ward label, slap it onto a Hex picture of deadlands using the x and y coordinates and then throw on all the townhall icons and do the math to figure out which is closest to the label
but I gotta get the API data first to even attempt the rest
barren quarry
@kind glacier that depends on what you're trying to do, find what is abandoned ward or what is town hall
kind glacier
I'm trying find which is the abandoned ward townhall
barren quarry
right
kind glacier
right now I just want an icon to turn green or blue depending on who holds the townhall
trying to place all of the hexes into a big map and drawing all the icons onto them comes after
long raft
save yourself a square root, sort by distance squared, the results are the same
the coordinates dont match up - so you have to search the list for the closest one
wouldnt it be easy if the dynamic api matched the static api, or if they used some sort of unique ID
barren quarry
hah actually derp is right
kind glacier
I can't for the life of me figure out how I managed to do it before
Going to try more in the morning
I gotta find me an example cuz this is not working
pure sierra
hang on
They couldn't have just named them :/
@kind glacier
@kind glacier
@barren quarry @long raft i just screenshot it so u cant just copy pasta and have to read it ๐
long raft
again, you dont need the sqrt, the results are the same. save the computation time
pure sierra
ok, but its not a time sensitive application
long raft
x < y => x^2 < y^2
you wouldnt just put +0 on all your if statements, right?
sorry, graphics programmer here, cant tolerate extra sqrts
barren quarry
looks like you have a bit of OCD
pure sierra
dude, its not a casio calculator
long raft
i grew up when they were expensive.
but if you took it out, it would work exactly the same
pure sierra
its a fair point, but maybe in the future you will want the actual distance
long raft
then you would calculate it once, at the end, instead of every iteration of the loop
you cant expect the compiler (lol php) to optimize a sqrt out. it might be smart enough to optimize a division out but not sqrt
pure sierra
like i said, i dont need the speed so its fine, but its a novel suggestion
long raft
its free real estate, hayden
pure sierra
in a free world
long raft
im being lenient. i can barely even tolerate an O(n^2) algorithm
pure sierra
so whats this +0 thing ?
long raft
a notation for an algorithm's complexity, big O notation
generally algorithms fall into a growth scheme thats known, like O(n) (linear time), or O(1) (constant time), O(n^2) (like an exponential time based on data size), O(n log n) or O(log n) are common optimized algorithms, and the worst case O(n!)
so if you were searching a list of size n, this algorithm would take O(n) time where O is the function that determines how long it takes
if you had m lookups, it would be O(n * m) which is generalized to O(n*n) -> O(n^2)
long raft
hahaha
its still an extra conditional statement, but at least it will be faster for me
alan seems more like a computer science 200 guy, algorithm complexity is more computer science 300
long raft
if you were to make a dictionary with cities - and you generated a key that was the latitude and longitude, but maybe you rounded it to 1 digit
that would be a primitive geohashing algorith, and you could find the nearest point in O(1) time
its not accurate tho, but it can be used to speed up that O(n) algorithm
theres like 50 towns tho so who cares
but i shit you not, C/c++ famously has slow memory allocations and they are often touted as being as slow as a square root
barren quarry
aaactually
there are like 10 major text labels per region
since we... well, dont include town halls from other regions when calculating which belongs to the label
the most i can find is 12 items
you cant have trouble with a 1x12 comparison
maybe in like 1919
pure sierra
or if it was actually in the game code when calculation optimisation matters
fervent spear
im being lenient. i can barely even tolerate an O(n^2) algorithm
Here, i just ran a
O( 45^(N)*9^(Nยฒ) )
Algorithm
long raft
wtf
fervent spear
With 6 it only took 1 minute. It is random so it could have been luck, tough
long raft
but then like 7 is gonna take 400x longer
solar sierra
Help me change faction in Foxhole a friend plays for the Wardens and I for the Colony help me play with him
kind glacier
Welp, managed to get the static info again
now I just need to get it into a format that I can actually read
no idea how I'm supposed to do that
it literally just comes back as
{"regionId":3,"scorchedVictoryTowns":0,"mapItems":[],"mapTextItems":[{"text":"Abandoned Ward","x":0.4065897,"y":0.4973474,"mapMarkerType":"Major"},{"text":"Biting Tarn","x":0.82187194,"y":0.70537686,"mapMarkerType":"Minor"} ...
stone void
Parse the whole thing as a string and split it by commas?
barren quarry
no need to split
the whole thing is a json response
just use JSON.parse() if you are a javascript peasant like me
kind glacier
not a javascript peasant
And from what I can tell it comes in as an array of objects
and that's after doing the .parse
Even just taking the first entry returns
{"text":"Abandoned Ward","x":0.4065897,"y":0.4973474,"mapMarkerType":"Major"}
as an object
stone void
Then youโve got an array of objects that all follow the same format? Though it appears to be a dictionary
kind glacier
Well I've got no clue on how to get a list or array out of it
stone void
A for each loop that cycles [โtextโ,โxโ,โyโ,โMapMarkerTypeโ] whichโll return abandoned ward, .406,.49, Major?
stone void
If you can get it into dictionary format, you can just call the index โtextโ and it should return the text
stone void
Is it a list or dictionary? The curly brackets I thought signified dictionary
stone void
Check your languageโs definition of dictionaries
kind glacier
It's all too much of a mystery to me
stone void
It may be the answer, the idea is that the key on the right of the colon is what you call, and the return is whateverโs on the right. Dictionaries then also cannot be changed, cannot be called by the right side, arenโt actually lists, and the key must always be a string. I am assuming itโs Java though, @kind glacier?
stone void
Then it should be similar.
vague otter
if I knew how to make a dictionary
@kind glacier
var dict = new Dictionary<T1, T2>();?
It seems like we're talking about json serialization
kind glacier
That's how you make a new dictionary, but how do you make a dictionary out of the api info?
vague otter
So
The API info is a JSON string (Javascript Standard Object Notation or something like that)
There is a couple ways to deserialize JSON objects
You can use Newtonsoft.Json (available as a nuget package)
Or use the built-in System.Text.Json package form .NET
kind glacier
last time I tried nuget I fucked my entire project
vague otter
๐
kind glacier
now to figure out how that even works
vague otter
If you'd want to do a call I could walk you through it lol
Though their documentation is pretty detailed
kind glacier
probably faster if I can read it somewhere
vague otter
The ppl who make it are called newtonsoft json, and the product is called json.net i think
But I use those two names interchangeably xd
And if you're using System.Text.Json from Microsoft it's the link I sent earlier
kind glacier
Product product = new Product();
wth is "Product"
vague otter
It's an example class
So replace that with whatever class you want to deserialize into
So if you have a JSON like this
"prop1": "hello",
"prop2": "bye"
}```
you want your class to look like this
public class NameOfTheClass
{
public String Prop1 { get; set; }
public String Prop2 { get; set; }
}```
and that will be the class you use instead of the example
kind glacier
like this then
stone void
You call the function to get text?
kind glacier
Now I'm confused
vague otter
@kind glacier https://dotnetfiddle.net/dZyGz7
coral sundial
vague otter
Smh
Not even using high level APIs to do the resource management for you
kind glacier
It's gonna take me a while to decipher that example
vague otter
Take your time :)
pure sierra
C for this ? like Why.... Did you see the code iposted for you @kind glacier
kind glacier
@pure sierra I did, and it looks like the code for trying to figure out which townhall belongs where
From what I can tell it's supposed to be working
but isn't
pure sierra
its for assigning the static labels to dynamic items
kind glacier
I'm not even near that step yet
pure sierra
well u were talking about it with kastow b4
kind glacier
true, but I had to take a step back to even get the requested json into a format I can work with
pure sierra
php easy: $regions = json_decode($regions, true);
pure sierra
so again, why c?
long raft
ah thats a good example
have you started using nullable reference types yet, @vague otter?
vague otter
Yes
Gave it a try
It's nice having nullable safety, though the implementation is too high-level to actually be a big thing
But gives you more compile-time goodies
long raft
.net 5 is properly using nullable reference types throughout the api now
the number of warnings in my code dropped by like half
kind glacier
so again, why c?
Because I'm not trying to make a website
vague otter
What are you using to make your API calls?
kind glacier
how do you mean?
vague otter
Well
You have to get the foxhole war data from somewhere, right?
What are you using to send requests to Clapfoot's API?
kind glacier
UnityWebRequest
vague otter
I see
You're using Unity
kind glacier
What would you have me do, use UE4?
I like Unity. It's simple enough for what I want to do
vague otter
Well
I didn't know what you were doing
Still don't
So I was just curious xD
kind glacier
that's okay
some just like to shit on unity and I don't really understand why
Even looking at the tutorials I was using, my webrequest checks out but still returns null
vague otter
I've never used it so cant help you there >.<
kind glacier
this should return the json but it doesn't
vague otter
Whats the url it calls?
kind glacier
vague otter
weird
Only thing I can imagine is paralellism fuckery
But I don't know unity enough to give any insight
kind glacier
even the link directly doesn't work
pure sierra
so why unity ? what u makin
kind glacier
Foxhole HQ except 3d and clientside (until I can figure out how multiplayer works, anyway).
trying to
Had a whole talk and brainstorm about it in this channel a good 2 months ago
mostly wishful thinking
pure sierra
was i talking to you about the radio generals games
kind glacier
let's scroll up
pure sierra
it was back a few months
kind glacier
Yeah, it was in September
But now that I've actually finished my internship I have the time
pure sierra
i did buy the first one a played a fair bit of it
kind glacier
my first plan was to just have a gameobject turn green or blue depending on who holds the Abandoned Ward townhall
but now I can't even get the info from the API anymore
kind glacier
Can't really tell the two apart, but it seems like the result of the SendRequest
long raft
you're using this example?
IEnumerator GetText(string url, Action<string> result)
{
UnityWebRequest www = UnityWebRequest.Get(url);
yield return www.SendWebRequest();
if (www.isNetworkError || www.isHttpError)
{
Debug.Log(www.error);
if (result != null)
result(www.error);
}
else
{
Debug.Log(www.downloadHandler.data); // this log is returning the requested data.
if (result != null)
result(www.downloadHandler.text);
}
}
couldnt understand why its being yield returned instead of returned
like, its 1 url input, so there can only be one response output, right? why would it return an iterator of them
vague otter
yield just means its an iterator no?
long raft
yea
i mean it means youre inside an iterator method
you can still use return in those if you return another iterator
err IEnumerable, not iterator
ok so my guess is that maybe you dont need to set the downloadHandler
kind glacier
Seems similar to me
string staticURL = BaseURL + "/worldconquest/maps/" + Mapname + "/static";
UnityWebRequest RequestStatic = UnityWebRequest.Get(staticURL);
RequestStatic.downloadHandler = new DownloadHandlerBuffer();
yield return RequestStatic.SendWebRequest();
if (RequestStatic.isNetworkError || RequestStatic.isHttpError)
{
Debug.Log(RequestStatic.error);
yield break;
}
JSONNode StaticInfo = JSON.Parse(RequestStatic.downloadHandler.text);
Debug.Log("2 " + StaticInfo);```the debug only returns the 2
vague otter
do you get anything in RequestStatic.downloadHandler.text?
kind glacier
do you get anything in RequestStatic.downloadHandler.text?
I used to
then I broke it
vague otter
This yield stuff is too big brain for me
long raft
string staticURL = BaseURL + "/worldconquest/maps/" + Mapname + "/static";
UnityWebRequest RequestStatic = UnityWebRequest.Get(staticURL);
RequestStatic.SendWebRequest().Wait();
if (RequestStatic.isNetworkError || RequestStatic.isHttpError)
{
Debug.Log(RequestStatic.error);
yield break;
}
JSONNode StaticInfo = JSON.Parse(RequestStatic.downloadHandler.text);
Debug.Log("2 " + StaticInfo);
SendWebRequest returns an async operation - so you have to wait for it before you check downloadHandler.text
oh and I haven't seen any other example of someone setting the downloadHandler, I assume it's set already
long raft
ah it has to be async?
kind glacier
yes
it worked like this before
removing the downloadhandlerbuffer doesn't do anything either
long raft
oof there are nice ways to do this in c# 7.1 but not 6
.ContinueWith( ) is a really easy way of doing it
vague otter
I mean
Do you get any error logs? Seems obvious but Im asking anyway
long raft
anyway it's ienumerable because it's returning tasks... it was hard to tell without the function header
kind glacier
lemme try dynamic
long raft
well you could try doing wait to see if thats causing your problem
kind glacier
null too
long raft
yah its kind of what i would expect
if the task hasnt run then its going to be empty
c# async and unity all at once huh? ooof thats a lot to figure out at once
long raft
I think this is how I'd write the async, but I'm not sure if it'd work because I don't have unity
protected static async Task<JSONNode> Query(string URL)
{
return new Task( async () => {
UnityWebRequest RequestStatic = UnityWebRequest.Get(URL);
await RequestStatic.SendWebRequest();
if (RequestStatic.isNetworkError || RequestStatic.isHttpError)
{
lock(Debug)
Debug.Log(RequestStatic.error);
return null;
}
lock(Debug)
Debug.Log("Response: " + RequestStatic.downloadHandler.text);
return JSON.Parse(RequestStatic.downloadHandler.text);
});
}
and on the outside:
var api_result = await Query(...);
is unity like async all over the place? I haven't used unity since before async was popular
kind glacier
long raft
oh uhh
i guess i need async before (), i changed the code. also made Debug thread safe
my async knowledge is purely academic
kind glacier
even when I copy a working example 1:1 it doesn't seem to want to work
long raft
yah those are the hardest things to debug
long raft
heh back to 0