you would combine them all and use one global coord system in full versnion
#code-talk
pure sierra
long raft
it was a high detail image - hard to work with so I had to set up a tile server, but which map you pick is important for the alignment and centering
and another big thing - this might come into play for you:
the default projection is wgs..blahblah84, the standard everyone uses for spherical earth
its fine when you place points, the projection doesnt matter much, but when you draw polygons and shapes (like a circle) they come out projected (they look elliptical)
you can turn projection off in the project properties
pure sierra
i did
long raft
ok
pure sierra
and running leaflet in pixel based simple crs
long raft
ok right
i find qgis not to be a good point editor, like i imagined i could transform the points globally, but i couldnt, i just had to move each one individually
pure sierra
i guess it doesnt matter what you make it in
long raft
qgis is really the only free game in town - i just worry it may be difficult to merge them together, i dunno
pure sierra
nah just add them as seperate layers
long raft
yea i guess all the images are the same size
ill try a map tomorrow, see how fast it really is
we will be missing the roads between maps...
pure sierra
make sure to turn on snapping
theres a few things i had to do to get it outputting correct format
long raft
snapping?
pure sierra
in qgis
long raft
ill look for it
pure sierra
ill look at pushing my demo to github
long raft
the json file is pretty helpful
i think i know how to achieve that
i can see how snap is important, yea...
pure sierra
i mean th elibrary does group vertex of closeness
pure sierra
mapping is not the hard thing though, its expanding on my current demo, currently i dont use the leaflet router plugin. so that could be looked into if its worth it, alse i dont have more than 2 waypoints, also it would be good to have snapping when dragging icons around like the demo, also search may want to be a thing ?
also there is a problem with the distance it calcs and returns, i have created an issue at the router git, as i think its hard coded for world lat lng, space, but im using pixel coords
https://foxholestats.com/router/
silk verge
you really need to put the marker directly onto the road
small beans compared to literally all the features that are yet to be implimented, but it woule be nice to have a little leeway
silk verge
also, maybe fix/round the displayed distance to a hole number or to a few places
though, that might be related to the coord system...
long raft
@pure sierra that field you have in yours, the default id which is unused, maybe it would make sense to make a new field to replace it called name, string type, that has the name of the road
long raft
doh, there is no labels on the maps to even know which road they are haha
pure sierra
yeah, i had no need to add any fields so far, something that can be done though , is a modifier could be specified to specify if its offroad slow @long raft
@silk verge the distance is not calcing correctly afaik, im looking into it, then i will make it pretty, its dijkstra
@barren quarry yes, proof of concept
@silk verge that is i think where the routing plugin for loaflet would come in, but if not some kind of snapping feature
long raft
the routing plugin looks up the names and resolves them to waypoints, and its got graphics and control mechanism
long raft
not me
pure sierra
i got the distance calculating correctly into km
barren quarry
node as in node js?
pure sierra
yes
pure sierra
so the library uses all these 'requires' somithing only noed supported, so you cant just use the lib like 'normal' and just include sthe <script> you afaik and could work out have to 'compile' it with like browserify, which i have to do for the base level of code to get it into the dom, so i can use it 'normally' , but it has to be recompiled if any 'base' settings are changed or the map json
barren quarry
so you're talking about doing stuff with libraries on front end
pure sierra
well it does it
so for starters on the guide to use it in the readme it says:
var PathFinder = require('geojson-path-finder'),
geojson = require('./network.json');
var pathFinder = new PathFinder(geojson);```now this wont run in a browser
barren quarry
right
i use webpack to do this
im gonna be honest... it took me a lot of time to figure this out and i dont even think i remember how to do it
pure sierra
that seems to be the same as i did via browserify
pure sierra
well it does that what im using now
barren quarry
i think i tried it but didnt have any luck with it
pure sierra
on another note, is your previous comments about the map height being 1.89km still correct ?
pure sierra
ok
barren quarry
i had this somewhere long above
barren quarry
width of a region is 2.184 km
surface area of a region is 3.09811 km
playable map length is 9.45 km
playable map width is 12.012 km
playable map surface area is 71.257 km```also , do you have a big image with all the maps joined together ?
long raft
if youre going to work with the big map its unwieldy in qgis, youll need tiles
or just use a blurry 256x256 version i guess
long raft
mm look at that blue ocean
barren quarry
@pure sierra simple
pure sierra
map bounds
barren quarry
maxBounds: [[-248,-20],[-8,276]],
wait no
ah nevermind
so as derp said you actually want to use tiles
no one's gonna load the full 13 mb background every time they load the website
i have a github repo pinned in this channel
long raft
qgis will not use local files for a tile server tho - so you can upload them to a server or you can use an existing server, or you can run php -S ./tiledirectory
barren quarry
it should have enough instructions
long raft
alternatively, we can map each map individually, and then using the offsets kastow made just shift them (I could write a program to modify the json contents) and join them together - but then the connecting roads need to be finished
pure sierra
the full map does load in qgis for me
long raft
i started working on weathered expanse, ive gotten like 25% done while i wait for linux servers to setup heh
pure sierra
it just flashes when zoom in and pan, but can live with that
long raft
yes, the full map will load, its just really slow
pure sierra
well like you said, we can setup a tile server
long raft
kastow already has one lol
pure sierra
use his
long raft
it might use a lot of his requests up, i dunno
pure sierra
its good if we all work on one set
long raft
its just static files, so it would be easy to set up anywhere, but like i said I just used php -S to make a local web server
pure sierra
i have webserver
long raft
kastow's tiles are the png quantized one for reduced size
barren quarry
it might use a lot of his requests up, i dunno the tiles are hosted on github
you can request them as many times as you want
long raft
your site hotlinks the tiles from github??
long raft
well thats the answer then, damn
long raft
ive never thought to use github for hosting like that, lol
barren quarry
long raft
so I guess set the QGIS XYZ layer's server to https://github.com/Kastow/Foxhole-Map-Tiles/raw/master/Tiles/{z}/{z}_{x}_{y}.png
pure sierra
how many zoom levels kastow ?
long raft
0-5
barren quarry
yeet
pure sierra
now we just need a online vector database !
long raft
as far as i know, shape files are binary and git wont merge them. would have to export to geojson to do push/pull requests
are you starting over on a global map, hayden?
pure sierra
not right away, i will still maintain the current test bed for feature development, but im looking into vector online database for collaboration on the global map
any suggestions ?
long raft
geojson file
pure sierra
but can that be saved to onilne fromqgis ?
barren quarry
im trying to make a json file on github but its not working for some reason
long raft
whats the problem?
pure sierra
works for me
barren quarry
oh nvm now it opens fine
now im gonna test if i can pull this data via an xmlhttp request
barren quarry
aaaand yes
this works
here's the plan
we finish this thing
i upload it to github, or someone else can upload it if they want
as json
and then people can just pull the data from the link
pure sierra
im looking to make a colab workspace
barren quarry
basically what derp said is correct
browsers dont allow CORS by default
but lets be honest the war api data is also third party
we just request it on server side and serve it as our data
same applies to the geojson data
the server can pull it from github on launch and then just serve it as its own
long raft
ya i think youre better off making a readme that shows how to set up qgis with the tiles, and import the geojson file, and then how to export it when finished
pure sierra
so i have a cloud db accounh working in qgis
but just looking for something a bit bitter
@barren quarry
in your maps is 00 in the center ? or a corner ?
as in the tileserver map we just got into qgis 0 0 is in the center
barren quarry
the leaflet coordinates?
pure sierra
i guess
barren quarry
in leaflet 0,0 is not even part of the map lmao
tiles in leaflet work in a very specific and retarded way
so X goes 0 to 256
and Y goes -256 to 0
pure sierra
but i thought you where running pixel cords ?
barren quarry
Yea
but when you load a tile map for some reason it always loads it in boundaries of [-256,0],[0,256]
pure sierra
ah ok
barren quarry
the center is then of course -128,128
pure sierra
u there @long raft
long raft
yea, just actually working hard today 
pure sierra
np
long raft
tiles are 256x256, so the top tile layer 0 is 256x256 and thats what leaflet uses as the size...
pure sierra
sure
just trying to work out the coords in qgis
when i was just using the single image it was essentially pixel coords
but with the tiles its some massive amount extents that im not sure where comes from or how to set
long raft
is it just a factor of 256?
pure sierra
-20037508.3427892439067364,-20037508.3427892550826073 : 20037508.3427892439067364,20037508.3427892439067364
long raft
yah I had the same thing when i did my devbranch map ... it did line up tho...
oh I guess i modified each point using the extents:
var modifiedPoint = [-128 + 128 * (coordinates[1]) / 20037508.3427892439067364, 128 + 128 * (coordinates[0]) / 20037508.3427892439067364];
i dont even remember doing it 
pure sierra
oh
@barren quarry
is that big extents that i got there , seems to be same as if you added up all the extents for each map
how the heck is that lining up ?
os you dont have the extents set in your tile server that is loading in qgis ?
barren quarry
width of a region is 2.184 km
surface area of a region is 3.09811 km
playable map length is 9.45 km
playable map width is 12.012 km
playable map surface area is 71.257 km```these?
pure sierra
from the api
barren quarry
yeah its based on the api
pure sierra
pure sierra
i made a hex grid to help work on one map at a time
im thikning your idea @barren quarry of using github for jsons migh be best as you have commit history. i did even get a postgresql/postgis server running and connecting with qgis, and i could store and save vector layers there, and i could assign permissions per user to different tables for each map , but things could still get wrocked with no revert feature ,(apart from backups, which i do have) but i think just simplify it
pure sierra
so afaik it looks like you cant idet a geojson in qgis, you have to import it convert it to shape edit and then re-export
long raft
it can import and export geojson, but yea the vector layer is usually esri shapefile, natively
long raft
i imagine you will have to download it first
pure sierra
but it offers http option
pure sierra
itsa https problem
pure sierra
ok i made a quick guide: https://github.com/hayden-t/foxhole-router
long raft
hayden i thought you said you turned projection off in the project settings?
pure sierra
i did, but then the xyz tile layer forces to come through as google crs,
it doesnt really matter though
you can likely have it off
so thats where the big coords systme comes from
its the number of meters around the world !
40,075,016
so i will have to change code to translate qgis coords to leaflet coords, as no longer using pixel cords in qgis (unless i can find some way too) plus leaflet will be in 0-256 now too if it tile mode, ideally it would be great if me could get qgis in 0-256 coord system !
long raft
yea the xyz layer is the wrong crs but its not used for anything otherwise
pure sierra
unfortunately it sets the range of cords the come out in the geojson we make
long raft
can just adjust it all after it's done, or post process the points
its much easier to deal with uniform scaling than projection
pure sierra
yea, coz also to save on json space as well as dropping all the decimal precision we can divide the main number down alot, to make coords not take up so much space as there like ~ 5 digits of significants we dont need
can i put your name down for a map @long raft
@barren quarry ?
pure sierra
yep
long raft
lol
long raft
just easier to start over i think
pure sierra
happy to stay with that map ?
long raft
yea
i may have to go see it in person tho, some things i cant tell if theyre roads or building locations
long raft
i like it quite a bit but ... i dunno when i saw that one satellite view map π π¦
pure sierra
im going to start on marban some time, as its next to yours so we can get cross map demo first
where did @barren quarry move his server to ?
pure sierra
np
tldr: will you try doing a map one day ?which one do you want ?
there, that didnt take too long:
long raft
looks good
pure sierra
much nicer & easir when you apply a thicker line style
i added that tip to readme
ive also added the json and a preview
ive changed instructions to end road at border, not over it
so better chance of noxt map ending at same place
barren quarry
@pure sierra What plugin do you use for routing?
fallen dirge
@pure sierra is that for a Foxhole GPS?
summer bobcat
@fallen dirge yeah he's trying to make it like Google Maps so it can give you the fastest route to a destination
fallen dirge
thats fucking cool
hardy marten
Very cool. Where will this be when complete and ready?
pure sierra
how longs a piece of string ?@hardy marten you can see a simple demo only on one map here: https://foxholestats.com/router/
@barren quarry so far just this plugin for route https://github.com/perliedman/geojson-path-finder
he also make the leaflet routing plugin
barren quarry
@chilly burrow may want to help
barren quarry
if you don't mind, a system like this would be very useful in our website
hardy marten
Very cool guys. Keep up the great work, the community appreciates it.
barren quarry
its probably safe to say that this channel is more supportive and friendly than most of the clans in this game lmao
marble spoke
question, is anyone working on / know of / is interested in, a tool to assist logistic requests and such
question, is anyone working on / know of / is interested in, a tool to assist logistic requests and such
pure sierra
@barren quarry has a website that may do what you want
marble spoke
is there a link for
is there a link for
is there a link for it?
is there a link for it?
is there a link for it?
pure sierra
barren quarry
that said, you need a group of people to work with if you want this tool to be useful
marble spoke
ah nice
barren quarry
that said, you need a group of people to work with if you want this tool to be useful
there is no functionality for cooperating with randoms, yet
marble spoke
yea, I was thinking of making a sort of request board
those in the war can kinda just help call out what resources are needed where
those in the war can kinda just help call out what resources are needed where
is there plans for?
??
just repeating the same thing
barren quarry
my discord is lagging
marble spoke
oh yea, I think thats happening a bit all around
pure sierra
mine too
pure sierra
i think the devs will be adding this sort of thing in the next update
pure sierra
coming along
pure sierra
thanks @barren quarry , there will be a bunch of these corrections that will need doing over time, i will pass this on to @LazP
exotic steppe
theres another spot like that near Solas Gorge
pure sierra
@barren quarry so where did you move your website ?
barren quarry
@pure sierra im still in the process of migrating
barren quarry
does anyone know the unix command for uploading directory with replacing files?
ah nevermind
i just had to stop the server first
royal glade
@pure sierra how can I help plot the roads? (If you still need it)
I can do a hex or two later tonight
long raft
hayden made instructions at https://github.com/hayden-t/foxhole-router
quick shoal
Looks like heβs all done all the maps
Except for the issue with farranc at the the older terra and lux shallows
royal glade
Welp. :\
long raft
i dont think hes finished them all tau, i think theres a lot left
i dont think it's even half done yet
im supposed to do one, probably gonna do that tomorrow
pure sierra
lazp has been doing them all (i did one) teh guy went crazy and has just about done them all himself
long raft
oh i see like half in there
long raft
daaaamn
pure sierra
so i told lazp to stop
long raft
lol why?
pure sierra
so some other people can do some
long raft
there's other parts to do right? the geocoding regions?
pure sierra
theres no rush
long raft
yea ok totally fair
pure sierra
mainly coding
which ill also take any help i can get with
so far
so there are 5 more sectors to be done
@royal glade so pick one if you want
long raft
wow thats great
pure sierra
@long raft did you still want to do a map ? i think you might have to switch
to one not done
pure sierra
np
long raft
so its kind of a relief
pure sierra
save you for coding
long raft
javascript not totally my strength either
pure sierra
what is?
pure sierra
π
long raft
i think the geocoding part gets tricky because per liedman doesnt have a library for the geocoding, it's going to just be indexing POLYGON shapes into a database and querying on that for reverse geocode. geojson is a fine raw format but it's got to be indexed to be queryable
postgres, mysql, or spatialite? at least spatialite would keep it in a portable format
can even populate it on the client side for maximum speed that way
long raft
yea, it would be nice to have at least the forward lookup, to type in "salt flats" because you dont know where that is
pure sierra
but generally you will know where you need to go
unless maybe its an order from someone
long raft
i dont know half the map anymore
long raft
i find node confusing
long raft
there are still missing maps on the github
there were 5 missing when h e posted the last image
any of you nodejs guys know how to import one of these javascript libraries all full of requirejs dependencies into a regular html page?
barren quarry
you need to use webpack
soft walrus
barren quarry
ΠΆΠΈΠ·Π°
pure sierra
@long raft browserify
barren quarry
or browserify, yes
long raft
that is also cool
pure sierra
done
long raft
how come we didnt use linestring instead of multilinestring?
pure sierra
qgis defaults to multi
couldnt change this
there is option to convert though
which must be done
long raft
you asked what my strength was - this is my thing hehe
cd Mapped; for f in `ls *.geojson`; do ogr2ogr -f "GeoJSON" -nlt LINESTRING "c-$f" "$f"; mv "c-$f" "$f"; done
@pure sierra I made a pull request after converting them to LINESTRING
pale mural
Madman
long raft
I'm going to merge them all together also, I'll make a different pull request with that also
ok there, new pull request with all LINESTRING but also a Unified.geojson file with them all merged
sharp breach
@pure sierra That's the craziest game of ticket to ride I've ever seen
pure sierra
@sharp breach ?
pure sierra
@long raft not enough to just change word , structure is different
sharp breach
pure sierra
OK
pure sierra
What does that do
long raft
converts formats usually, but in this case LINESTRING
This is a better installed for GIS programs (including QGIS, Grass, gdal, etc...): http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/
You can also install the gdal packages available on Linux, etc, which includes ogr2ogr which is a conversion utility
it looks like the cygwin installer, i'm not sure exactly which installer that is, but it works the same
i also used ogrmerge.py from that package. Imagine having to manually do it 23 times
pure sierra
Not a big deal
How about scaling down the chords to 0-256 for leaflet
With only keeping about as much precision for half the width of a road
Please push any scripts you use too
long raft
i put the commands I used in the commit message, they were not entire scripts, just 1-liners
I'll see about scaling, I don't know that off the top of my head but it seems possible
yea I can do it
I was reluctant to put the scripts I used because people may not have the packages installed, and the scripts would just error
I can modify the readme file though
pure sierra
See of you can so densify every x length too
long raft
densify?
pure sierra
Vertex
long raft
eek nvm wrong one
pure sierra
Even of you don't scale, it would be enough to truncate the decimals and likely about 4 or 5 integers off the end
long raft
hmm might take a custom program
i dont see any programs in the gdal package that transforms coordinates, yea I think it would need to be something custom, I could write that in c# pretty easy
long raft
lol
it's a task for someone else then
here's the results, though. Looks perfect to me in qgis
it's about 1/3 the file size of the original
oh doh! That's scaled to -1, 1. I did not scale it by 256
Ok this one I scaled for -128,128 range
pure sierra
Will check it out when home again
long raft
I posted the c# project on my fork under a separate branch. https://github.com/NoUDerp/foxhole-router/blob/fitted-for-leaflet/ShrinkUnifiedGeoJSON/Program.cs it was only like 10 lines of code but I'm just not a node/python programmer, would have taken me a while. Maybe somebody would find the code useful tho
long raft
There's an error with an empty geometry in the previous unified set, it wasn't a problem until it's used by the path finder
long raft
god I really hate javascript. Hayden do you know how to implement this IRouter interface in the leaflet-router-plugin? I can't find his source code, I just get an empty this keyword killing everything. No idea htf people work in these untyped languages with no documentation
pure sierra
look at my demo ?
long raft
nah, I haven't seen it, but I didn't really run into any difficulty with the geojson-path-finder. Did you integrate it with the routing plugin? That's where I'm hung up
do you have it posted?
long raft
there's just not enough documentation to use this plugin, I'm afraid. or I just can't find it..
long raft
binding the callback seems to work. what a tricky language if you dont know all the caveats of stuff
pure sierra
sorry yeah i did use it in the demo
but there is demo on creators site
check the git pages branch
long raft
well Hayden if you know where there's an example where he implements IRouter and doesn't just use the OSM ones, I would love to see it - I can't find it and I can't get any further
long raft
got it working, but it just wont draw the lines, and then I was going to move on to the geocoding. I think the first thing is a JSON dictionary of town names, forts, maybe the resource nodes...
pure sierra
where is your demo ?
long raft
I made a demo branch on my fork: https://github.com/NoUDerp/foxhole-router/tree/demo/Demo
if I debug the javascript, it's definitely calculating all the coordinates right, I just don't know the last piece to actually draw them
pure sierra
so your using the router plugin, (as well as the path finder) what does it actually do for us ? @long raft
torpid storm
summer bobcat
me learning java: this ain't so bad
realizing that it was just the tip of the iceberg: 
long raft
ill take java over javascript any damned day
@pure sierra it was mostly about the unknown unknowns. im not sure how much work has gone into the routing plugin, but it integrates both the router and the geocoder. kind of didn't want to re-invent the wheel
but I have the router plugin and path finder mostly integrated, it just wont draw, I think it might have somethign to do with the Itinerary class, but I just don't know
maybe I need to manually draw the lines in my IRouter implementation, I just don't know because I can't find example code - and his documentation is terse
also, that repository/branch has the most correct unified geojson file, I had to translate all the coordinates to work with leaflet, because leaflet has no way to offset the tile layer
pure sierra
look at the source for his demo
you the the js other than bundle.js generally are the ones that get bundled into the bundle.js
im pretty sure this is where i found him drawing his lines : https://github.com/perliedman/geojson-path-finder/blob/e576a2739f897e714f93084d52ac9301a8e0ecca/index.js#L102
barren quarry
i created an organization for us
and invited you
message me if you want in
@long raft @pure sierra and @young pilot have been invited
the invitations are sent via email so check those
pure sierra
your from australia too @young pilot had no idea ! im in NSW
@barren quarry i joined
young pilot
lol
quick shoal
Oh snap
barren quarry
the maps dont give out enlistments and day of war anymore
they dont give out casualties either
wait what
summer bobcat
π¦
long raft
thanks hayden will take a look
barren quarry
@long raft it appears the war report data has been moved to another link
i informed hayden
i wrote a big post here but dyno removed it for "spam"
long raft
Eh spam?
keen dome
@pure sierra i think some url was changed. the docs should be updated now i'll check. not sure why we forgot to give you guys notice. we'll make sure we don't do that. sorry.
pure sierra
particularly seems im never up for wc start/changeover due to timezone
keen dome
yeah... sorry that's our bad we should have given you guys notice on that.
docs should be udpated now let me know if you need any clarification etc
pure sierra
ok, i think i got it to point of working like it was before, but im in a rush and have to go to offsite work, so who knows, fingers crossed, home agaain in about 10 hours
pure sierra
OK , manualy rollover of WC data done, hopefully that will be the last time i have to do that and it can be automated with the latest additions in the api to differentiate between wars, conquest and resistance modes π
swift ingot
@pure sierra I dont know if I'm the only one seeing this issue. I noticed that foxholestats still showing 25 civic centers needed for victory, while the actual number needed in game is shown as 20.
There are only 23 civic centers available, as far as I can tell
barren quarry
come on hayden wake up
pure sierra
im up
6:44am here
o oh
@barren quarry
@keen dome clarification plz: in the api new endpoint /war does the requiredVictoryTowns value change if a town gets nuked ? or do you take away from it value of scorched towns ? or ...
zealous sonnet
@pure sierra hey, requiredVictoryTowns shouldn't change in the WarAPI due to rocket blasts, but I'll double check the implementation and update the documentation accordingly
pure sierra
ok, also likely related i noticed, there is no etag support in this endpoint from what i can see, not that i care
talking about docs, @zealous sonnet did you see this too:; https://github.com/clapfoot/warapi/issues/64
zealous sonnet
yeah check the issue π
pure sierra
@swift ingot thanks, i had not had time to lok at now /war endpoint to get this new data, but doing it now
@zealous sonnet also there is war number reported by endpoint, but not in docs
zealous sonnet
you're right, ill add that as well
@pure sierra I'm going to update a few other things also. btw, the new endpoint (/war) will only ever update at most once per minute, in case you're wondering
pure sierra
np, i only update once per minute
pure sierra
@zealous sonnet you didnt add warNumber to the example return json in the readme
pure sierra
also no mention of it ruqired towns reduces with scorched or not,
assuming scorched reduces required total
pure sierra
@zealous sonnet there is something
I was thinking about scorched and required.
And that scorched won't necessarily reduce required unless total available is reduced to required
As currently there are more available than required
So one getting scorched means there are still in this case 20 available to be required
So required does not need to be changed.
But it would be good to know if it had been coded for required to change if needed, eg if scorched is greater than surplus victory towns
zealous sonnet
a victory town becoming scorched reduces the required victory towns regardless of whether or not you could possibly win the war without that victory town
so if you need 10 towns, and there are 25, but one gets scorched, the requirement is dynamically lowered to 9
zealous sonnet
it doesn't currently. if it does in the future, we'd probably just add another field for it
right now you can infer all of the necessary info from that field + the map data
pure sierra
Yeah is fine like that
barren quarry
i need an advice
i have a function
the function sends an xmlhttprequest
i want it to return the response
but here's the problem
the "return" only returns the result from this function
but i need to return from the container function
oh kastow why dont you just put the return on the bottom of the outside function
well the xmlhttp requests are asynchronous
so the return in the outside function would be cast before we receive the response
in short, we have onload function nested inside sendRequest function, and i want to somehow cast the return in sendRequest when we have the data from onload
because casting return inside onload doesnt do anything for sendRequest
thanks stackoverflow you piece of shit
long raft
you can set a global variable
since everything in javascript is threadsafe
and you can just check to see if its null/undefined
the ugly ass singleton model >_<
or maybe do something fancy with async/await
barren quarry
yeah i just made a global variable
pure sierra
why you dont just use jquery ?
long raft
There appears to be some snapping/precision issues as some paths which are clearly shorter are avoided, also no path to tempest works for me
pure sierra
hey
i figuced there would be issues that we will hae to investigate and correct in the maps
cool you got it working
@long raft
long raft
yea when i zoom in i can see the breaks
pure sierra
cheap out sourcing ?
long raft
im not certain if it was no snapping enabled or if it was the post-processing that broke some of them, some work great
pure sierra
connectorrs ?
long raft
the ends of the line strings
pure sierra
you think just at border edges or everywhere ? di you try adjusting the grouping distance paramater ?
long raft
yea i think its the border edges
yea ive played with the precision, it might be able to be dialed in... but some of them are pretty far off
if the precision is too sloppy the router will cut corners across fields
pure sierra
well we just have to go and snap each border crossing to each other
long raft
im afraid so, but also it can be easy to find the errors or tricky
when its obvious the chosen route is way longer you can spot them quickly, then zoom in and see theyre not touching
ill probably move on to the geocoding tho, i want place names
barren quarry
so recently i noticed that the devbranch version of my website loads a bit slow
i was thinking for a bit until i remembered that i recently set up a bot that records all conquest events and also records war reports once a minute
and then the website gives the data to the user for different kinds of stats
so anyway
this is a typical event
there are 1636 of these
languid harness
what an unit
barren quarry
and this is a typical war report
recorded once a minute
there are 3044 of these
the total size of json was 7 mb
pure sierra
fuk
languid harness
ever considered condensing it to a flag bite?
pure sierra
just one row 7mb ?
barren quarry
no, all of these 3044 rows of war reports plus 1636 events is 7 mb
all this bullshit that this one request gives out
pure sierra
7mb meh
languid harness
just shorten all the names lol
pure sierra
or use ids
languid harness
Select "Wardens" -> Replace "W"
pure sierra
languid harness
idem for Colonial and Neutral, and you can cut half an MB
in fact, store them as 2 bits
pure sierra
barren quarry
@languid harness well there is a third team called None
pure sierra
but heres the thing that i found really slowed down my db interactions,
languid harness
Yeah, as I said neutral
hence 2 bits
00=none, 01=colly, 10=warden, 11=scorched
barren quarry
so anyway
pure sierra
scorched is a flag not a team
barren quarry
i just replaced colonialcasualties, wardencasualties and totalenlistments with c,w and e
file size dropped from 7 mb to 3.83 mb
languid harness
barren quarry
the next step is replacing region names with region ids
languid harness
becarefull not to create too short of handles
barren quarry
the problem is that war report json doesnt give out region ids
pure sierra
languid harness
otherwise you wont remember what they were
barren quarry
thats what readme is for
pure sierra
it does give out ids
languid harness
or become hard to find in scripts to read
pure sierra
its in the other endpoint
languid harness
I personally use the first few letters, e.g. ColCas, WarCas; keeps things compact but very readable
although python is generally all for readability
barren quarry
lets ask casey to change the /maps/ endpoint
right now its just an array of possible endpoints
what it should be is a list of objects with 1) endpoints for war api 2) region ids 3) region names in the game
pure sierra
in an ideal world yes, but its workable the way it is so i doubt it will be a priority but ask if you want, that is what github is for
so is your site still slow
@barren quarry
barren quarry
oh im gonna have to wipe the database and start from scratch
pure sierra
is your site still slow ?
barren quarry
yeah it is because the changes that im making have not really applied yet
pure sierra
is it just doing inserts ? any selects or updates ?
barren quarry
ok so there are three things
there is a glitch project that records the events and war reports which im working on
then there is a copy of this project on a dedicated server provided by Nooba to me & seth
then there is a devbranch version of foxhole global that pulls the json data from nooba's server and feeds it to users
right now im making changes on the glitch project
and making sure it works correctly
pure sierra
which is the one running slow ?
barren quarry
the devbranch version of foxhole global is running slow
on the front end
because the user has to load all this massive data that is relayed from nooba's server
so it takes like 11 seconds to load the page
pure sierra
so your big db is on noobas, and then you have a 'global' devbranch pulling data from there
barren quarry
yes
pure sierra
the big thing for me to optimise my db selects for the user, was to make sure and selects WHERE clause utilized a primary id field if the table was a big one
so what i had to do was split of my records into two tables current war and all past wars, so the current war table which is always going to be relatively small can have selects not by primary id such as by time period ok, and then past wars have their start and end primary id saved ina seperate index table that i select from to then use in the query to select the selected war rows from the big daddy all past
wars table
barren quarry
how big is your past wars table
barren quarry
thats not very much
pure sierra
i did optimse them recently down from around 160mb
and 1.6 mil rows
i dropped all my skirmish & devbranch data
and fields that where not needed anymore
barren quarry
i think that when you're storing data from past wars you dont really need the "none" -> under construction data
because nothing is really accomplished in this event
pure sierra
so my events table is not even that big, i didnt mention that
i could easily make ids for all those commonly used terms to further small my tables
all past war events is only 150,000 rows 13mb
the big thing like i said is number of rows and if you are using primary/unique ids for lookups, it can make several seconds difference in query time which really ads up when you have a lot of users
languid harness
Alright, I have been fighting with this issue for quite a while now, so I just better ask it here and see if one of y'all can fix it:
I have a Raspberry Pi Nano W, which runs on Rasbian in a lite installation. I want to connect to a Github. To do so, I followed all the steps in this tutorial: https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/getting-started-with-git/10 . However, I am unable to use git push -u origin master, which yields the error:
fatal: Could not read from remote repository
Please make sure you have the correct access rights and the repository exists.```
I find this very annoying. I have done everything I could think of to connect this fucker up, but I fail every time. The SSH-keys are never right and I have not found a way to actually log in via my RP into (one of) my account(s).help
barren quarry
have you created a repository on your github account?
barren quarry
hm, i only have experience with github desktop
pure sierra
@languid harness you might need some keys installed or packages, just keep googling or stack
languid harness
but I am tiiiiiiireeeeeeed
pure sierra
go to bed, sometimes its amazing how quick you work something out after a break
languid harness
I have been taking breaks fro this past few weeks
it is not just a random problem that ocoured
I have been fighting with this for half a month now
pure sierra
have you tried pushing to repo from another pc
languid harness
its a windows 10, but worth a shot
pure sierra
@zealous sonnet !!!! Bug in api /war is reporting WC number as 34 already but 34 has not started yet !! REEEEE π¦
@barren quarry @keen dome
zealous sonnet
you don't need to ping everyone for that
pure sierra
my poor database πΏ
zealous sonnet
is the war id the same as before or did that also change?
pure sierra
lmk
barren quarry
rip
pure sierra
its the same
zealous sonnet
ok i'm probably going to remove warNumber from the documentation until it's fixed
long raft
@languid harness, are you intent on using ssh to connect to git? you can just use the https address instead and get around the whole ssh key thing. I haven't done ssh for git in a while, do they want you to generate a private/public key and upload them the public key?
languid harness
well, they want me to do all kinds of things? The only thing I want is being able to download a .git and run that shit
I felt like the SSH was the right thing to do, as it actually grands access to an account to a certain extend contrary to just having a name and email adress
long raft
ssh is the hard way, just use the https:// link for the git repository instead, it will just prompt you for username and password, its waaaaay easier
and roughly as secure
otherwise, i would guess the piece your missing with ssh is setting git to use the private key you generate for the remote (on your side)
languid harness
well, I made the key on the Pi and then typed it over to the site on ym laptop. It gave errors that it was the wrong type of SSH, which I clearly made sure it wasnt several times
long raft
github said it was the wrong ssh type?
hmm i get the same thing
ah, so make sure you're generating an OpenSSH key, not ssh.com. It should start with ssh-rsa
young pilot
i had issues connecting to my github through my university servers a few months back. had to turn off 2FA
languid harness
@long raft it does start with ssh-rsa
idk anymore
and doing this via windows is a pain in the ass; when I download github, it doesnt give me the shell, so I cannot follow the dang tutorial reeeee
long raft
can you just use the https link? still not clear if you have to use it
long raft
that one is easy, just git clone https://github.com/NoUDerp/Tiler and it's done
long raft
yes and when you go to push it will need your github user and password
and then it will remember it...
languid harness
lit
languid harness
darn
@long raft aaaaah! you did it!
now adding a script to get all the modules lol
long raft
yea you can even encode the username and password (not that it's a good idea...) into the https url
languid harness
hehehehe
sounds likes a lot to fuck up
although I must state that I have to log in every time I do a clone
that being said, I have it almost working
like really close
it jsut doesnt want to instal certain packages
long raft
What isn't installing packages?
languid harness
pip
he can isntal some
but not all
prolly a me issue tho
anyhow, I am free all of tomorrow because I was a too effective worker so I will be fixing it tomorrow
because this doesnt seem like a real issue, something I can fix either via cmd or by rewriting my script as I dont remember what half of it is used for
(((or used at all)))
thanks anyway Derp, helped me a lot
long raft
ah, so some of pip libraries dont include the binary for your architecture, the arm v6 i guess it is
some of them cant be installed, and others probably need to be compiled from source - so you will likely need to apt install build-essential, maybe any other libraries you need for compiling those packages, sometimes you just have to keep trying to push it through and solving the next missing dependency
peak raven
Is there any way to get the "time until" next war from the API? I.e. the value you see in Home Region -> Travel Tent right now
or should I just hit war data endpoint every 60 secs until war id changes?
chilly burrow
we are getting data from maps that supposed to be offline. @zealous sonnet
that in theory is not an issue, but there should be an input that says they are 'offline' too. Otherwise we would have to set those regions offline manually
zealous sonnet
hey, please open a github issue and we'll fix it when possible
sharp breach
@young pilot @barren quarry @pure sierra did any of you create an issue?
If not I will in a few hours
pure sierra
im awake
languid harness
good day
pure sierra
this can bee confirmed by seeing that in game lobby it still reports day 192
languid harness
hm, my RP has issues installing Pandas it appears; it can find and download it, but then it just stops...
(((a bit hard to read, sorry, but the best photo I could take)))
Like, it had been running for at least 30 mins, every time to no avail
Gonna let it run longer this time because I have to do other stuff, but its very weird that it would give no feedback on it status unlike the other packages do
pure sierra
any one notice the required victory towns for this war change ? wasnt it 16 b4 ? now its 15 ...
or am i wrong ?
peak raven
it was 25 when the war started.. now it's changed ti 15 :S
languid harness
omg, it has been nearly 2 hours, and it has made progress lol
torpid storm
Probably gonna help you
https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/17073/how-do-i-install-pandas-on-raspberry-pi
"Pandas relies on numpy which can take an extremely long time to build, even on a very fast desktop machine."
languid harness
oh god
I thought it may have been the heat, its like 30 degrees inside and the thing is boiling hot
and it is nano as well 
pure sierra
hi im working on a video playback of the control map to view history, it would be a link ner the current map saying like "replay map history", do you think it would be better or make more sense to have the video order play in reverse from the current situation backto the start of the war ? or say from some time in the past such as the start of war or 5 days ago forward to now ?
(i will be making the playback speed a bit quicker too)
torpid storm
How I'd view it is 'okay what has happend last 5 days and how did we end up here' then I'd see each day progress and come to the current map so I could go forward from there.
If it's reverse order it's like.. 'okay this is the map now, lets see..' you'd see what has happend and at end be like 'oh yeah this is how I left the map.. wait what to do now' :D
Woul be also nice if you could decide if you want to see 1d / 7d / 30d some hacky timestamp jump or such always have the videos at same lenght and timings so you can do it, or just make bunch of viedos :D
I guess we first need foxhole wars that last that long too.. one can always hope.
Like someone could be off on weekend and unable to play so it's nice to view during that how the map evolved
dark fiber
yo
pure sierra
yo
summer bobcat
yo
languid harness
yo
barren quarry
yo
long raft
yo
fallen dirge
yo
iron scarab
yo
mighty herald
yo
royal glade
Iterations exceeded. The recursive function has been terminated.
languid harness
c-c-c-combo breaker
barren quarry
storm spindle
pure sierra
oh stonecradle today.... πΏ
cold gazelle
What happened
barren quarry
@pure sierra i met you on the bridge yesterday
pure sierra
really, ? you should have said hello, or ify ou didnt i didnt recognise you
long raft
typical warden dying on a bridge
long raft
but not on the bridge
royal glade
hayden kills warden flatbeds for fun π¦ I saw him use one on the front line.
The poor easily disabled yellow vehicles π¦
pure sierra
barren quarry
looks cool
pure sierra
moved the text up top to not be obstructed by the player track bar (active on new images from now)
summer bobcat
hey i got this thing i want y'all to check out
long raft
have geocoding figured out
long raft
mmm javascript not a pleasant experience but im through most of the tough parts
pure sierra
yeah, it lacks
deft quartz
So er, can we have trains now?
harsh summit
hey guys
I'm working on a text videogame thing and I keep running into "I should do it this way, but oh gosh what if I need to do it some other way later"
in the end nothing or barely anything gets done
I was wondering if anyone has had encounters with such things and could offer some advice
barren quarry
redoing stuff you already did is called refactoring
its absolutely normal and is part of development process
harsh summit
I see
barren quarry
before you do it the right way you have to do it in some way first
harsh summit
That's true, but these thoughts still kind of, you know
interfere with the work process
That's my issue to deal with at that point though, I appreciate the insight a lot
Sometimes you can spend so much time on thinking "is this the right way" that you don't do it any way
that's what seems to be happening now
there's this issue I'm facing right now
the game needs to load from json files
and it does, there's a piece of code that loads json files and processes them into in-language objects
but what then
do I just hardcode lists of objects to paths where their respective JSONs reside
And a third thing that I find frustrating
"if you code a little every day, you'll develop a habit and be productive"
I believe the habit thing, but I don't believe the productive thing
barren quarry
why
harsh summit
why what?
summer bobcat
refactoring is completely normal π
barren quarry
why dont you believe the productive thing
summer bobcat
Happened a LOT when I did my text based story game on Java in high school
harsh summit
maybe I'm just lazy, but it's very difficult for me to believe hyperproductivity
I think to all the times where several days of productivity end up absolutely murdering anything that can be done for the next few days, for me
And then at day 4 or 5 I start being very critical of myself for not "keeping up the good work", and then that spirals out of control
just feels like an impossible thing to attain
constant productivity by habit
honestly, maybe it's a personal thing
maybe I just work in short bursts
summer bobcat
why do I feel this is going to be my life when college starts
barren quarry
hyperproductivity is not a thing
harsh summit
alright
though, I still want to figure out
how to organize loading data from config files and properly organizing it for inter-program access
barren quarry
put the json files into a folder
harsh summit
got that done, yeah
barren quarry
make it so it checks and parses all files in the folder
harsh summit
it does that
barren quarry
then what else do you want
harsh summit
but where does it put the objects created during parsing
how do other parts of program access it
do I make a big
array
associative array of them
barren quarry
what programming language
harsh summit
python
barren quarry
ok this is not my area of expertise
harsh summit
understandable, I appreciate it the help a lot anyway though
barren quarry
@long raft could help i think
harsh summit
even just by, you know
rubber duck programming
if I explain my woes here, I might accidentally get a big understanding of them
barren quarry
im going to explain the stuff i did with my project foxhole global, idk if you heard about it
harsh summit
I wouldn't mind
barren quarry
there is a plugin in javascript called React Redux
basically its a fancy way of managing global variables
harsh summit
alright, makes sense so far
barren quarry
you have a store which is a root object
and the properties of the store are other different objects, like user data, or map data, or events
then you subscribe the website elements to keep track of when these properties changes and update when they do
harsh summit
does anything in store or its children get new objects created or removed dynamically, at runtime
like, if store has an object for map data
and that map data object keeps track of things like, I dunno
cities, forts, salvage fields, mines
does it only track changes of these four things - cities forts salvage fields and mines
or is there functionality for new things to be added while the program is running
because this is an issue I'm having
do I hardcode things to be tracked
or do I allow for them to be changed without changing code, and if so, how
honestly though, after this discussion I'm starting to think that I should just make it work how it is now, and build on top of that, and redo it later if I need to
barren quarry
this is how i implemented this:
a user initially loads a map with towns, forts and stuff
the server sends requests to foxhole api to check if the data has been changed, every 3 seconds
suppose the data has changed, like a town has been captured
the server sees the new data and downloads it, saves it to the database and then emits an event to all online users with new map data
a store event happens which puts in the new map data
by default, the React components update when there is a new state (internal variables) or props (variables passed down to component from its parent)
but we dont want to always update the icons whenever there are changes in data because there are ~580 capturable locations and also mines and resource nodes, so we write a function that checks whether the data we pass for this icon is actually new (realistically when an event happens, only 1 icon out of 580 is changed, right?)
nobody wants to write the code for comparing all properties of an object especially when are several hundred of them, so we just turn both objects into a string and compare them as strings, if there are differences then we update
harsh summit
I may be wrong, but wouldn't it also make sense to bundle the thing that changed with the "recheck everything"
Honestly it probably would, but an implementation detail stopped it or something
barren quarry
but actually what i wanted to talk about more is productivity in general because this thing took me 3 months
if you try to commit all of your time into making this thing you will quickly burn out
you can afford it if your project is small enough that you can finish it in under 2 weeks
harsh summit
this is why I wanted to bring up this "code a little every day"
it just feels like such a "crush your soul at home diy project!"
but yeah
thanks a lot for this conversation
the insights of the fact that others do struggle with things that I struggle with are calming
long raft
- keep everything as simple as you can until you need it
- create a punch list of outstanding tasks
- drugs. illicit or caffeine
harsh summit
derp
barren quarry
yes, task lists are absolutely important
long raft
nah python probably my weakest language
barren quarry
well fuck
harsh summit
understandable
long raft
i basically just read it
long raft
if i were applying for a job that needed a python programmer - sure, i know it. but between you guys and I, im like a 1-2/10
harsh summit
can I try to ask anyway
long raft
i hate interpreted languages as much as i hate anti patterns
harsh summit
understandable
here's the thing though
so I have config files, json
that define various in-game objects
the objects are pieces of furniture, items, rooms, and finally "buildings" which are just multiple rooms
I don't know of, well
how I'd like to access these things in code
and to make sure everything is extensible is neat
do I want dot notation with stuff like
data.buildings
do I create objects at runtime for each entry in the list so I can do stuff like
data.furniture.table
but what if I have multiple tables, they'll conflict then
honestly should probably settle on SOMETHING that WORKS at least in theory
and then write a bit of code to be able to understand such a request
and fetch the appropriate thing
long raft
{buildings:[ {type: "table", x:..., y:...}, {}, {}... ]}
dont be afraid to use arrays in your json i guess...
long raft
well you cant avoid hardcoding everything, or else youre just building some insanely complicated json parser
harsh summit
if I have buildings one moment some other day program doesn't know what 'buildings' are
barren quarry
this may sound very retarded but i suggest using folder trees and putting each object in its own json file
long raft
at some point the rubber meets the road
harsh summit
that's very far from retarded
and it's quite far from what I'm doing
my problem is
having the rest of the program fetch objects
if it internally knows of folder structure
and I change it
long raft
i spent my teenage years making game engines for games id never finish
harsh summit
and I end up having to change it in hundreds of places after that
I'm very
very
fucked
long raft
dont get too tied down in the scope of an engine, having interactive program is more important than the data design
harsh summit
absolutely
though, you know
easier said that done
maybe I'm just perfectionist to the point of my own harm
long raft
if it were me id just hard code whatever i have in my, and then put on the punch list remove hard coding
its like ... spending days farming the mats for a tank only to run over a friendly mine instantly
harsh summit
yeah, that's true
it's a good point
to make something THAT WORKS
instead of something that looks great but doesn't work
long raft
youre more likely to stay motivated that way, in my opinion
if you can constantly show people demos and stuff...
harsh summit
I'm currently dealing with a complex system that won't work until at least 4 sub-systems are functional
and it's absolutely
killing me
long raft
you can fill in a lot of place holders for stuff