#code-talk | foxholegame | Page 2

long raft Jan 29, 2019, 12:03 AM

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depressing? doing code changes or playing the game?

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i havent seen you in a couple wars now hayden

pure sierra Jan 29, 2019, 12:10 AM

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i havent played for months, depressing in that there seems little point investing time into upgrading for example refinery facilities as it will all get reset tomorow

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@young pilot ⚔ 🐑

languid harness Jan 29, 2019, 7:45 PM

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someone figured out his question lol

hidden path Jan 29, 2019, 7:46 PM

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sshhhshshshshshhh

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you saw nothing

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I really don't get these ETags.

long raft Jan 29, 2019, 9:21 PM

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i think you can just specify in a header what your last record is to reduce traffic of useless updates you already have

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i believe they are optional ...

neat fossil Jan 29, 2019, 9:39 PM

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It depends on your project.

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For example, if you creating maps then I honestly believe that ETags aren't necessary because you want to make sure that whatever has been created is the latest.

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While a bot that logs which towns have been destroyed, ETags can be useful because there is no purpose of going through all the maps while some haven't had their towns destroyed.

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You are correct Derp, they are optional.

hidden path Jan 29, 2019, 10:25 PM

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The War API says that they want you to use ETags

barren quarry Jan 29, 2019, 10:26 PM

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https://foxhole-interactive-map.glitch.me/wardata

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our interactive map now archives all warapi snapshots and gives them out all at once in a json array

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i called it Raw Coppersondent

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i actually don't know how long this can last without taking all of ram

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but i'll let it run for a couple of days

hidden path Jan 29, 2019, 10:49 PM

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What do you guys use for your Foxhole websites?

barren quarry Jan 29, 2019, 10:50 PM

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could you be more specific?

ocean prairie Jan 29, 2019, 10:51 PM

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markfootdisapproves

barren quarry Jan 29, 2019, 11:33 PM

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ok apparently if you save war api data as text every 5 minutes it adds up to about 12 MB per day

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for a proper server thats okay but for glitch thats a big oof

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so we'll look for another way

hidden path Jan 29, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Like what web host do you use and what not?

sharp breach Jan 30, 2019, 12:10 AM

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@barren quarry just like, mongo lmao

young pilot Jan 30, 2019, 1:43 AM

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I will never use mongoDB

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Also for some reason I didn't see Hayden's ping

eternal sequoia Jan 30, 2019, 1:55 AM

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I feel like Mongo is a spear everyone uses the wrong way

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I think it's good for a certain situation, but most the devs I know use it because it's sexy and not because it's the right tool

long raft Jan 30, 2019, 4:11 AM

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@barren quarry you can throw it through deflate or gzip and it will compress 75%

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trading cpu cycles for profit!

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Here's my take on etags, i dont really fully use them (though could fully implement it) , as i dont consider myself a heavy api user (believe it or not) and i dont think the game is at the point where there would be a lot of load on the api that it would need the performance relief their use by me could give, (but if i need to use them i will).
My rational behind this is that i only request from the api once per map and endpoint every 5 mins, so i dont feel that is a big load compared to what even a modest web server can handle.
But if however you were making something that relied on the fastest performance possible with the fastest (live) response time, eg you wanted to know asap when something in the api changed, rather than wait till in my example my 5 min loop, which might happen to fall 4 minutes after the actual api has changed, as they are likely out of sync, then you would be polling (checking) the api maybe every second, for every map, and endpoint, so you can see this is substantially more, and would warrant the use of the etag header system, both for yours and their systems sake.
So currently i just use the etag to tell if there is a change in the dynamic api and if i should check and generate events in my event log, otherwise i skip that block of code. (i dont actually use the full header reject method, to just use your existing data instead of requesting new but same data)

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Aaah that's interesting

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Im very new to etags

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So it changes only when the json file is different right?

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So if no towns are taken in an hour, the etags wont change?

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 8:16 AM

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correct, the way it works is you submit in your request headers the last etag you got, and the server compares that against what it currently is and if it has not changed it repies 'no change' (in effect) rather than the same identical json again

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screenshotted from in game map, will do for now, icon type 38 salvage mine

📎 salvage.png

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@barren quarry

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payback for the maps you sent, thanks

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Actually i wanted to ask for colored safe house icons

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My pc with photoshop went rip

lunar cobalt Jan 30, 2019, 8:20 AM

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I wish the devs would just fucking give us high quality ones of those

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 8:20 AM

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i can give you mine

lunar cobalt Jan 30, 2019, 8:20 AM

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not the fucking 25x25 pixel ones

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 8:20 AM

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48x48

lunar cobalt Jan 30, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Such a big difference

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 8:20 AM

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wardenlol

lunar cobalt Jan 30, 2019, 8:21 AM

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They're still useless for anything wiki related

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 8:22 AM

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📎 MapIconSafehouseColonial.png

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📎 MapIconSafehouseWarden.png

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this is my rough job of it

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i use gimp for everything i can, never use ps

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@barren quarry

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but since i made them i worked out how to do it dynamically programatically as im making my maps, to do the red shade on the icons when nuked, as i wasnt going to make red shade for all icon....

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📎 unknown.png

raven zodiac Jan 30, 2019, 1:35 PM

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u can actually check the size of snapshot, lol @barren quarry

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 1:52 PM

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apparently when this data is archived it literally takes 200 times less space

hidden path Jan 30, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Yeah I am just going to set up a 5 minute loop rather than setting up etags.

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 2:15 PM

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i actually implemented etag check

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so now it saves 1/3 of regions

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because apparently regions update in cycles every 15 min

raven zodiac Jan 30, 2019, 2:21 PM

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another way was just checking json hash

neat fossil Jan 30, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Lizard, devs never said you must use it, they said it is a good practice

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And like Hayden said, 5min loop will practically do the same

hidden path Jan 30, 2019, 4:02 PM

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👌

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Yeah I am just going to use a 5 minute loop

neat fossil Jan 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Tbh 5min loop is much easier and will give you less problems

hidden path Jan 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I wish default C# had ienumerator support, but whatever it is not that much more difficult.

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 7:24 PM

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@barren quarry "because apparently regions update in cycles every 15 min" what makes you think this ?

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 7:26 PM

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@pure sierra actually i could be wrong

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it could be 10 minutes

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 7:26 PM

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still why 10 ?

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 7:27 PM

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I changed the code so it saves war api data if etag is different from the previous one

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 7:29 PM

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and ?

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 7:32 PM

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19 24 GMT saved regions 9, 5, 7, 2, 6, 1, 16, 12
19 19 GMT saved regions 2, 1, 4, 7, 12, 3, 16, 14
19 14 GMT saved regions 5, 7, 1, 6, 9, 16, 4, 2, 14

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Huh

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i thought it saved one half first and then another half 5 minutes later

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but it appears to not be the case

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🤔

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 7:33 PM

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you might just be just out of sync with their loop, how often you checking ?

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 7:33 PM

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5 minutes

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 7:33 PM

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well you might be checking halfway through their update

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 7:33 PM

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idk, maybe

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 7:34 PM

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but it depends if they update them all at once

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or sequentialley over 5 mins , i have no ideea

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it really could be any behaviour

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 7:34 PM

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anyway, this etag check that was being discussed here saves me about 40-50% of space

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 7:36 PM

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thats good, i dont keep the whole json historically just the values i chart, and i need them every 5mins so i just collect them regardless of change

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 7:39 PM

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also i got a massive project coming up in the next 2 weeks

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(hopefully in 2 weeks)

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the biggest community creation foxhole has ever seen

pure sierra Jan 30, 2019, 7:41 PM

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ah so FH related, i thought u might have meant work related

long raft Jan 30, 2019, 7:45 PM

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the etags are easy

barren quarry Jan 30, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Yeah they are

long raft Jan 30, 2019, 7:46 PM

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@hidden path the IEnumerable support is in System.Linq and has been supported since 3.5

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ya know, just ... using System.Linq; and call it a day

hidden path Jan 30, 2019, 7:55 PM

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@long raft I'm referring to this, which is a something supported in Unity C#. You can not do this when programming in default C# as far as I am aware, which is what I originally meant.

void Start()
{
    StartCoroutine("Example");
}

IEnumerator Example()
{
    DoSomething();
    yield return new WaitForSeconds(wait);
    StartCoroutine("Example");
}

long raft Jan 30, 2019, 7:56 PM

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yes you definitely can

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IEnumerable<return type> Iterator() { yield return blah; }

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thats from 3.5

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thats SO old

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but yea in classic c# youd want to use an IEnumerable<T> where T is your type of iterator

hidden path Jan 30, 2019, 7:58 PM

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👌

long raft Jan 30, 2019, 8:00 PM

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its pretty insane how the compiler manages that, it unwraps all that code and saves the whole stack every time it does a yield return

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people try to implement that stuff in other languages - and they end up having to use multithreading to get even close

raven zodiac Jan 30, 2019, 9:47 PM

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so what's magical in saving stack per caller?

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that's just how they thought it should be working in c#

raven zodiac Jan 30, 2019, 10:04 PM

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and so I also dont get "and they end up having to use multithreading to get even close" part too

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 1:10 AM

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it saves stack and then returns to your code, then returns BACk

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its pretty complicated, so thats why iterators are somewhat limited in what they can do inside

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its implemented in the compiler, so if you want something like that in another language, you spawn up a thread to fill a queue and then the original thread to pull the items out of the iterator

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2352399/yield-return-in-java <- lots of uninteresting details regarding doing it in Java for example

Stack Overflow

Yield Return In Java

I've created a linked list in java using generics, and now I want to be able to iterate over all the elements in the list. In C# I would use yield return inside the linked list while going over the...

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im so paranoid someone is going to tell me im #general-discussion

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 1:33 AM

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I understand what its doing, but what's a point? that's not a big deal

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there is also lambda solution for this sort of problem in java

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or using Streams

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ofc threads, but I dont get it - threads are threads, they always were here

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 3:34 AM

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because something that sophisticated has to be implemented in a compiler, not in a language

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and ive never seen any ...non academic language ever do that

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its just a matter of convenience and readability, just another feature that makes the language awesome

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and all the performance benefits of using the stack instead of heap allocations or spawning threads or using a threadpool or locking mechanism

hidden path Jan 31, 2019, 3:45 AM

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My little foxhole data project is ready to be left alone and just run. Going to let it run over night and see what I get.

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 4:04 AM

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@long raft "just another feature that makes the language awesome", gotcha, praising tools is not my league, Imma out

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 4:12 AM

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you seem like a hard to impress person, pip.

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Im just familiar with asm, c++, js, java, python, ruby, php, erlang (a bit), now Im using elixir (erlang) @long raft

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 5:34 AM

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well i know a lot of languages too and im still impressed with it. its like a unique feature

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 5:35 AM

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that's just sugar

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same as for example classes in c++

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 5:35 AM

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and its at least 10 years old, so it should definitely be in any standard c#, although it might look a little different than how unity does it

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 5:37 AM

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and in global scale it doesnt make much cuz it just solves something in c# area, I know that some stuff will be not so elegant without it, but again - in other langs there will be other way of doing same things

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 5:38 AM

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there really isnt

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not every language has an analog in every other language

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Im not talking about exact alternative of some piece of code in other langs, I was talking about same behavoir or same task cuz that's not a big deal if u r programmer and u need to solve some task

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 5:51 AM

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that kind of stuff matters for a game programming language

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 5:58 AM

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this question is too broad and opinionated in terms of stackoverflow

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and I prefer to stick with more specific questions

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 5:58 AM

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oh, yea i only meant it to show how the mechanism works, and that he should just swap out IEnumerator for IEnumerable<type>

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 5:59 AM

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that's not bad if he learnt them both before going for yield magic

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 6:00 AM

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err yield magic is the way to go actually

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i mean ... if you use that language you should really use it, right?

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 6:00 AM

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it depends on ur knowledge of what exactly u can do with this and when to avoid it

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same with nearly everything

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 6:03 AM

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you in telecom industry or university?

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 6:16 AM

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nah, self employed

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University was my "Java Time"

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telecom? u googled erlang? 😄

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 6:19 AM

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like 15 years ago

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it has a reputation lol

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 6:27 AM

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yep

pure sierra Jan 31, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Welcome back pip

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 8:21 AM

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@pure sierra 🤝 🤝 🤝

pure sierra Jan 31, 2019, 8:22 AM

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Told you steam api didn't have long left...

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 8:24 AM

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is it finally down?

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@pure sierra

pure sierra Jan 31, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Yeah, with release of 0.20 they silently 'turned it off'

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 8:29 AM

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ok, so they are still using it but just turned players listing off

pure sierra Jan 31, 2019, 8:29 AM

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They have me a heads up but never mentioned it to the community

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Nah, it's gone completely afaik

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 8:29 AM

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u can still get player numbers tho?

pure sierra Jan 31, 2019, 8:29 AM

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They do their own server discovery

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 8:30 AM

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funny

pure sierra Jan 31, 2019, 8:30 AM

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I pull the total player pop from a broader steam api that does not talk to their servers

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So it even counts people on menu afk

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 8:31 AM

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hmm

terse pelican Jan 31, 2019, 2:58 PM

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I did the same thing for my site. Used steam api to pull total player pop.

languid harness Jan 31, 2019, 3:02 PM

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It is in!

📎 a81b6b4e-5fa4-4c83-8a69-1b8428bfc639.png

strange steppe Jan 31, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Focus sent a hello... Haha

languid harness Jan 31, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Soon ™ I will conquer the world

strange steppe Jan 31, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Good buy! 👌 👌

languid harness Jan 31, 2019, 3:04 PM

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yeah, it is crappy photo, but it is the Raspberry Pi W I talked about a few days ago with some lads in here

strange steppe Jan 31, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I like the raspberry, but I don't have enough money to buy :/

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This is south America!

languid harness Jan 31, 2019, 3:16 PM

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oof

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 4:24 PM

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u can buy cheap copy of rasp/android - that's how skynet supposed to grow from poor, crippled child into maniac

languid harness Jan 31, 2019, 4:39 PM

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bold of you to assume skynet isnt alreay upon us

raven zodiac Jan 31, 2019, 5:03 PM

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u know, we are brave men

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 7:21 PM

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have you started using it yet? did you already have a memory card for it?

pure sierra Jan 31, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Pi zero is only about 5us

summer bobcat Jan 31, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Speaking of Pi's

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ah fuck it nvm

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basically I have this $9 computer that is like a Raspberry Pi, but I don't know what to do with it

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😛

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Plus, the company behind it went out of business. Pretty surprising considering their Kickstarter campaign was very successful.

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 10:17 PM

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theres a lot of knockoffs

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can always turn it into a media machine for another room if its capable of that

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also curious if steam has an install for ARM architecture - could use it as a steam video streaming device

summer bobcat Jan 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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@long raft Thanks for some inspiration. I have no experience with Linux on these babies and it's just kind of daunting to me.

long raft Jan 31, 2019, 10:28 PM

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some people slap a controller on top of them and use it as a gaming station

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like SNES emulator or whatever...

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i made a guitar effects peddle with one before ... but then i realized people make much better devices for less money

raven zodiac Feb 1, 2019, 2:04 AM

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use it to make Foxhole Neural Bot

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since we cant block scrap spawn with anything

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the fun part is - it is doable if u have gpu to teach ur network

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I remember there was a Serpent_AI sreamer tried to make framework for game bot

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OCR and stuff

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the sad part - even simple game required tons of iterations to train network

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now figure out where was da joke

long raft Feb 1, 2019, 2:52 AM

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gpu on raspberry pi?

summer bobcat Feb 1, 2019, 2:56 AM

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1000 raspberry pi's later kappaflyinchicken

languid harness Feb 1, 2019, 9:16 AM

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@long raft not yet, gonna look into it today. I am still figuring out stuff

raven zodiac Feb 1, 2019, 3:05 PM

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@long raft nah, just shitting on devs about em fixed scrap yard blockage

karmic siren Feb 3, 2019, 9:15 AM

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Can someone tell me from where I can get a good quality image of the World Map without labels & icons and with the changes introduced in the last patch please?

languid harness Feb 3, 2019, 9:17 AM

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@karmic siren Perhaps the foxhole wiki, or the pinned messages on the discord

barren quarry Feb 3, 2019, 11:09 AM

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@karmic siren https://cdn.glitch.com/8b104918-ef75-43df-93fd-45bdd966f7e8%2FInteractiveMapBG.png?1548694567027

karmic siren Feb 3, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Thanks!

raven zodiac Feb 3, 2019, 5:31 PM

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do we really need over 9000 supa dupa interactive foxhole maps?

languid harness Feb 3, 2019, 5:33 PM

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@raven zodiac ofcourse not, we need many more!

raven zodiac Feb 3, 2019, 5:33 PM

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yeah, I forgot we are in FOD

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where everybody wanna grab some attention

dusk roost Feb 3, 2019, 8:40 PM

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better to have too much competition than too little

raven zodiac Feb 3, 2019, 8:42 PM

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competition for competition?

barren quarry Feb 4, 2019, 7:53 AM

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Sometimes people make tools for themselves

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sometimes they make them for glory

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i would be the second kind of person

long raft Feb 4, 2019, 7:57 AM

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lol

languid harness Feb 4, 2019, 7:57 AM

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and sometimes, they do it to test their abilities, mhuhahahahaha

lunar cobalt Feb 4, 2019, 7:57 AM

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hide

raven zodiac Feb 4, 2019, 8:24 AM

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test abilities? do we have some experienced devs around?

lunar cobalt Feb 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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@pure sierra ^

pure sierra Feb 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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wat

raven zodiac Feb 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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they thought u r exprienced dev, hi, btw

karmic siren Feb 4, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Yup just want to try something with the API for presscorp. Infact this week I finalized a Discord bot for them that sends casualty info grouped by map, region and world every 6 hours.

raven zodiac Feb 4, 2019, 10:17 AM

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pure magic

karmic siren Feb 4, 2019, 10:29 AM

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Lol okay

potent panther Feb 4, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Does anyone know what the ! Codes are in game? Can u find player count and other API stuff with it?

barren quarry Feb 4, 2019, 3:30 PM

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@potent panther sorry which codes?

karmic siren Feb 4, 2019, 4:22 PM

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What are you trying to achieve @potent panther ?

potent panther Feb 4, 2019, 7:28 PM

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I wasn't sure if there was a list of the functionality of !

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Also why does foxhole stats website run so slow?

karmic siren Feb 4, 2019, 7:34 PM

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of what?

languid harness Feb 4, 2019, 7:34 PM

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I think he means in-game commands

karmic siren Feb 4, 2019, 7:35 PM

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ahh

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Take a look at the chat commands here: https://foxhole.gamepedia.com/Chat

Foxhole Wiki

Chat

The chat window is on the bottom right side of the screen. It is used to send messages to other players. The default keybind to open the chat window is the Enter key.
The chat window displays the list of recent messages. It is hidden by default and only becomes visible when a...

languid harness Feb 4, 2019, 7:37 PM

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@potent panther if that is the case, I have to disappoint you: only moderators can access commands like that and those are limited to moderation like tp-ing and kicking and stuff. The reason foxhole stats runs slow can be answered by @pure sierra (he is the owner and maintains it)

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But if I have to give a shot: it updates only every 15 mins because not much changes over such time spawn, thus resulting in minimal strain on data (which means cheaper hosting). If it is the speed of the site itself, I bet it just gets many requests (I personally would be doing like 2~3/hour over the day)

potent panther Feb 4, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Yeah I figured it was because of the 15min update. Thanks for the heads up

languid harness Feb 4, 2019, 7:42 PM

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yw

pure sierra Feb 4, 2019, 8:39 PM

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@potent panther hi, if you mean update speed, yes it is on a 5 min update loop, that is as fast as the api updates, you can see the countdown at the top, if it is the page load time plz let me know, i dont have the best home net so hard for me to tell performance of server in US from AU

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in other news: We now have nice color coded icons !! 😃

📎 unknown.png

steep ember Feb 4, 2019, 8:41 PM

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This was jist added I assume?

long raft Feb 4, 2019, 8:50 PM

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taste the rainbow

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ya know @pure sierra SEO is better if you use SSL

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and http2 might improve performance for users, if youve got a lot of javascript assets

pure sierra Feb 4, 2019, 8:52 PM

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have not heard of http2, https does slow things down a litte though, there isa bit of js for the charts

long raft Feb 4, 2019, 8:53 PM

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http/2 maintains a single tcp connection and all files can be pipelines

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standard doesnt require it, but in practice web servers require an SSL certificate to use it

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letsencrypt is free, of course, and pretty easy to setup, but yah google will ding you in results for not using SSL

pure sierra Feb 4, 2019, 8:54 PM

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really... didnt know that, yes virtualmin my cp has one click letsencrypt , very easy

long raft Feb 4, 2019, 8:55 PM

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but http/2 allows for more than the typical 6 simultaneous connections to grab files

pure sierra Feb 4, 2019, 8:55 PM

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sounds cool, will have to look it up

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why is it not default for a modern system then ?

long raft Feb 4, 2019, 8:56 PM

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it came to apache late, nginx got it early, and browsers all had it like 10 years ago

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its easier to set up http/2 correctly than https 1.1

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in terms of getting the right ciphers, not using SSLv2 and v3 and using tls 1.2, etc...

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the new shiz thats comin is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QUIC ... probably going to be http/3

QUIC

QUIC (Quick UDP Internet Connections, pronounced 'quick') is an experimental transport layer network protocol initially designed, implemented, and deployed by Google in 2012, and announced publicly in 2012 as experimentation broadened.QUIC's main goal is to improve perceived...

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they want to do browsers over UDP

pure sierra Feb 4, 2019, 9:00 PM

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ok

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ok i set up ssl

long raft Feb 4, 2019, 9:21 PM

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that was fast

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looks like it works to me

autumn shuttle Feb 6, 2019, 2:47 AM

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Question about the warapi and Etags using Python:
In my get request do I need to include a header to check the Etag? Or I just store the Etag when I request and if I request again check against the Etag with the If_No_Match? I'm not sure how to structure

long raft Feb 6, 2019, 2:58 AM

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so the first request, you wouldnt pass any header for that request, but when you get a response includes an ETag you should save

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then the second request you pass that ETag, and if there is no update you get 304 as your returned status code

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so the response has ETag, and your requests have If-None-Match

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first request has no additional header...

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its kind of interesting, because since the data updates every 5 minutes ,if you polled it every 5 minutes you could be 9:59 delayed

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so you'll probably poll it more frequently than 5 minutes, and thats why the etags are useful not to waste hitting their api servers

raven zodiac Feb 6, 2019, 9:09 AM

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in more simple words: since there is no subscription model client pushed to check updates with some custom frequency, to compensate possible load they introduced etag mechanism so u can update info even every second without making much harm

languid harness Feb 6, 2019, 9:37 AM

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In even more simple words: Etags are dumb

raven zodiac Feb 6, 2019, 1:09 PM

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it depends on its usage

autumn shuttle Feb 6, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Haha thanks for all the input. I can see why it's useful especially if the api is ever expanded , it would be sweet to do a live heat map of infantry locations. I'd also love to get data from a past war to analyze.

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 9:57 AM

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yet more new features:

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barren quarry Feb 7, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Looks cool

languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

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@pure sierra whats that timer for? how long it has been under control?

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

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yup

languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:16 AM

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what if I control it the whhole war?

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300h?

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or does it switch to days?

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:17 AM

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icould do that

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i ws thinking of capping it at 99

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but that is a better idea

languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:17 AM

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yeah, I was wondering

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99+ hehehehe

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classic

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:17 AM

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if >24hrs /24 = days

languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:18 AM

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*that is one odd way of coding but yes

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:18 AM

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its just a gist

languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:18 AM

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hehehehhe, I figured

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otherwise I have some real respect for you producing something like this

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:19 AM

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prob some towns getting up close to the 24 mrk

languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:19 AM

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you could also do maybe a 48hour cap

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:19 AM

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yep

languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:20 AM

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would be nicer I think

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because the difference between 1 and 2 days is way larger than 2 and 3

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:20 AM

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languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:20 AM

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looks neat

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:20 AM

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well also if it says something like 67 hours, peeps be like, what is that

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easier to understand in days, i correct it now

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thanks

languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:21 AM

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hey, thank you for doing this all

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:21 AM

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i web program for 'job' so its part hobby part practise

languid harness Feb 7, 2019, 10:22 AM

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well, still, it is nice you do this

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don't underplay this stuff

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 10:24 AM

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glad you like it

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hidden path Feb 7, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Very cool

long raft Feb 7, 2019, 7:57 PM

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wish actual foxhole map was that colorful and nice

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the timers are great

spring kindle Feb 7, 2019, 8:04 PM

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no please

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if it comes that maps are colorful make it an option

long raft Feb 7, 2019, 8:27 PM

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you like to squint to figure out which mine is sulfur?

spring kindle Feb 7, 2019, 8:57 PM

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i don't squint

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i don't really have a problem figuring which one is which

hidden path Feb 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

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colorblind man, please help

pure sierra Feb 7, 2019, 11:44 PM

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then you wont have a problem switching to wardens

hidden path Feb 8, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Blue is easier to distinguish, so yeah I will continue to shoot at blueberries.

long raft Feb 8, 2019, 2:17 AM

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many people describe the wardens as distinguished

pure sierra Feb 8, 2019, 2:30 AM

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im pretty sure we have higher moral standards

long raft Feb 8, 2019, 2:31 AM

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well we do have the high ground...

nimble dawn Feb 8, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Give up Anakin I have the higher ground

raven zodiac Feb 8, 2019, 2:35 AM

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HigherGround* HigherGround(Warden da_real_man){...

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best oop design ever

lunar cobalt Feb 8, 2019, 2:35 AM

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Well, we have the Highest Ground

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LUL

raven zodiac Feb 8, 2019, 2:35 AM

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no problem

lunar cobalt Feb 8, 2019, 2:35 AM

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fucking overlook

nimble dawn Feb 8, 2019, 2:36 AM

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I feel the star war vibe for a sec there

raven zodiac Feb 8, 2019, 2:36 AM

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void growUp(Ground* other){...

native moth Feb 8, 2019, 9:35 AM

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@pure sierra Colouring is great

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Just, maybe, make it a little less saturated than FOBs, forts and such

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I don't want to have an aneurysm, trying to figure out which faction controls TH in the middle of your kaleidoscope of colours

pure sierra Feb 8, 2019, 11:44 AM

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@native moth thanks, make what less saturated?

barren quarry Feb 8, 2019, 11:46 AM

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i guess the resource and production icons

native moth Feb 8, 2019, 11:50 AM

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Yes

languid harness Feb 8, 2019, 12:26 PM

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@pure sierra how do you store all the data?

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(and is this data aviable for some research?)

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also, why these marks nani

sharp breach Feb 8, 2019, 12:28 PM

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I whoopsied msg.addReaction("✅"); where it didn't need to be

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kappaflyinchicken

sharp breach Feb 8, 2019, 12:47 PM

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oh well

raven zodiac Feb 8, 2019, 1:37 PM

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btw why?

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guess what site is this

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First View in 13.505s on first run

summer bobcat Feb 8, 2019, 1:46 PM

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lmao

pure sierra Feb 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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@native moth ok will look into that
@languid harness mysql database ify ou want it ok
@raven zodiac im guessing that is mine, as i just checked and it looks similar

raven zodiac Feb 9, 2019, 12:16 AM

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@pure sierra nope, that's not foxholestats

pure sierra Feb 9, 2019, 12:16 AM

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funny coz my page size was about 4mb too

lunar cobalt Feb 9, 2019, 12:17 AM

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That's about how long it takes foxholestats to load on my phone on mobile data

pure sierra Feb 9, 2019, 12:17 AM

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i know , same time too

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a lot of mine is 3rd part scripts

raven zodiac Feb 9, 2019, 12:50 AM

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what I posted was stats on foxholegame

summer bobcat Feb 9, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Well I'm not surprised

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They use WIX to build their website

raven zodiac Feb 9, 2019, 1:19 AM

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triggered

lunar cobalt Feb 9, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Yeah. And it makes it a fucking pain in the ass to save any of the photos they post

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Because they're all fucking .webp

long raft Feb 9, 2019, 7:17 PM

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on the bright side wix includes every javascript library ever known to man, so youll never have a missing object...

lunar cobalt Feb 9, 2019, 7:18 PM

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has a missing object

languid harness Feb 9, 2019, 7:19 PM

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The amount of imports at the start of my script are rarely justified

long raft Feb 9, 2019, 7:21 PM

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I must admit I've never been good about it, I'll import jquery just to run init function

lunar cobalt Feb 9, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Worth.

long raft Feb 9, 2019, 7:22 PM

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yea really need my stuff to work on IE6 wardenlol

languid harness Feb 9, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Sounds like something my brother would say

barren quarry Feb 9, 2019, 11:48 PM

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So this is why foxhole website takes weeks to load

raven zodiac Feb 10, 2019, 6:25 AM

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yep

raven zodiac Feb 10, 2019, 1:06 PM

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https://tools.pingdom.com/#5a33549769c00000

Pingdom Tools

Full Page Test Analysis

young pilot Feb 11, 2019, 7:37 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190211-1537052.png

barren quarry Feb 11, 2019, 8:23 AM

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@young pilot interactive map?

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converted the map from png to jpg HBjoy

lunar cobalt Feb 11, 2019, 8:27 AM

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👀

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fucking jpeg

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what are you doing with my transparency

barren quarry Feb 11, 2019, 8:28 AM

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well its background

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so no need for transparency

languid harness Feb 11, 2019, 9:10 AM

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When a single image is 30 times as big as your code

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@barren quarry who even uses png and jpg on the webs? gif is where it is at

lunar cobalt Feb 11, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Actually. Would making it into a .webm decrease the size?

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I know those are pretty damn compressed.

barren quarry Feb 11, 2019, 9:11 AM

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madmen

languid harness Feb 11, 2019, 9:12 AM

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webm is not only a video format, but also contains audio.

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That would be amazing

lunar cobalt Feb 11, 2019, 9:15 AM

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Sorry, not webm

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Webp

languid harness Feb 11, 2019, 9:24 AM

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hm, quite interestting

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would appear there is not much difference with regular jpg by the looks of it

raven zodiac Feb 11, 2019, 1:26 PM

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difference?

languid harness Feb 11, 2019, 1:26 PM

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yes difference

raven zodiac Feb 11, 2019, 1:27 PM

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what exactly do you mean by "not much difference"?

languid harness Feb 11, 2019, 1:27 PM

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as in, you can not see much difference

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they are image compilers

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what can be different outside the quality of the image

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and size

raven zodiac Feb 11, 2019, 1:41 PM

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features

long raft Feb 11, 2019, 5:59 PM

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the giant png gets cached tho...

modern nimbus Feb 11, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Yo

edgy harness Feb 12, 2019, 2:42 AM

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go to:optimizilla website

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they'll optimize your images and wont lose quality.

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or if you feel fancy, use texture packer kappaflyinchicken

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https://imagecompressor.com/

Optimizilla

Online Image Сompressor

Optimizilla is the ultimate image optimizer to compress your images in JPEG and PNG formats to the minimum possible size.

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@barren quarry try this.

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if said image hasn't shrunk after going through this, it means the image is already optimized prior.

long raft Feb 12, 2019, 2:55 AM

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the clocks/duration on every town hall gives such a new depth to the map, @pure sierra

pure sierra Feb 12, 2019, 2:58 AM

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I know , its much better than i expected, you can really see the progression of the map

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@long raft

long raft Feb 12, 2019, 2:58 AM

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you can instantly look at know where the fighting has recently been

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or when i criticize people for not being able to tell whos winning? this gives a much better clue

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its pretty great...

languid harness Feb 12, 2019, 9:50 AM

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@pure sierra not sure about this, but I dont think that tower in northwest Farannac has been neutral for 2 days straight

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I think it is more reasonable to think it was captured by wardens 2 days ago and maybe has went neutral over the night

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not sure about it, could be that it has been neutral all that time, but it is something curious

pure sierra Feb 12, 2019, 10:12 AM

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@languid harness hmmm, interesting, i was looking in the event log on the farranac coast page, and there is no obvious mention of it, i thoght it would have been iuxta fort as that appears closest, but maybe it is transient valley valley, which would make 2 of them which might be port of the confusion if there is any

languid harness Feb 12, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Perhaps

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Also, can you please at a legend to the side of the detailed maps? trying to find the techmine thingies on the island maps...

barren quarry Feb 12, 2019, 3:07 PM

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@pure sierra icontype 38 is tech mine?

pure sierra Feb 12, 2019, 7:29 PM

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yes

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@barren quarry

raven zodiac Feb 13, 2019, 4:15 AM

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//форматирует сырой текст в то что надо
@barren quarry

pure sierra Feb 13, 2019, 8:50 PM

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talking to dev phill, he's passod on the official rgb values for warden and collie, and said that it might make sense to transfer away from a system of providing variants for all icons and just let us shade them accordingly as th egame does

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-Colonial

(0.082283, 0.14996, 0.07036, 1.0)
Hex Linear: 152612FF
Hex SRGB: 516C4BFF
-Warden
(0.017642, 0.093059, 0.223228, 1.0)
Hex Linear: 041739FF
Hex SRGB: 245682FF

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also he confirmed rocket site is ok/meant to report side in api and showing showing such data is ok

long raft Feb 13, 2019, 9:04 PM

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wow they give you both colors, how kind

pure sierra Feb 13, 2019, 9:05 PM

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makes it easier for them

long raft Feb 13, 2019, 9:24 PM

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@languid harness windows (arm) on rpi 3!

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gonna try it later this week but theres a windows image for it now lol

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i wonder how well foxhole wil run wardenlol

pure sierra Feb 13, 2019, 9:26 PM

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forget it

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honestly why would you bother witth windows on a pi, its meant as an opportunity to learn and use nix

long raft Feb 13, 2019, 9:27 PM

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i dunno, same reason i use windows on a pc. cause i like to be productive hehe

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its definitely just for fun...

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i personally think its really cool such an inflexible OS as windows can be compiled on arm and has an amd64 emulator and stuff

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microsoft had very little success with windows on arm half a decade ago

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but $10 windows computer is pretty cool...

pure sierra Feb 13, 2019, 9:29 PM

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sure, but i can get them for free from any ewaste bin, but atleast its compact

long raft Feb 13, 2019, 9:29 PM

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its really low power too

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i dunno, looking for things to do with raspberry pi, running is for linux is just so ... boring

pure sierra Feb 13, 2019, 9:30 PM

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linux lovely

long raft Feb 13, 2019, 9:31 PM

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way too much GPL ...

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i slapped freebsd 11 on there the first week it came out. but whats the point of linux OR bsd without zfs. sigh

languid harness Feb 13, 2019, 10:05 PM

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I havent had mine working yet,,, since I have a Pi Zero I need a micro hdmi for visuals, and those are hard to get for me for some reason

long raft Feb 13, 2019, 11:34 PM

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ah yea i needed one too, i ordered a couple for 6 usd

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almost as expensive as the computer

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its mini hdmi btw

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i think micro is the smallest one?

gentle sage Feb 14, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Man this ahk script saved my day for not hurting my finger while grinding resources or building

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so simple but made my day

long raft Feb 14, 2019, 12:48 AM

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you might not want to mention that.

lunar cobalt Feb 14, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Yeah. You really shouldn't have mentioned that. Especially with the actual code for the script.

long raft Feb 14, 2019, 12:53 AM

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granted, how could someone think saving their hands would be against the rules

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void shadowDance(long time) { if (time % 2 == 0) moveLeft(); else moveRight(); }

gentle sage Feb 14, 2019, 1:05 AM

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well it is not botting

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people like stuck shit on rhe mouse to make same thing 😄

lunar cobalt Feb 14, 2019, 1:09 AM

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@gentle sage Autoclickers are not allowed in foxhole.

gentle sage Feb 14, 2019, 1:10 AM

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well good luck to find that out who uses them and who not

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Atleast this saves me from wrist pain

long raft Feb 14, 2019, 1:44 AM

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its still almost criminal how much they expect you to hold left mouse down

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i would recommend using windows' standard mouse driver's click lock feature to help them with left click

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i realize its no longer on topic of code but if somebody used a steam controller to play this game

lunar cobalt Feb 14, 2019, 1:45 AM

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^ That isn't against the rules as far as I know.

long raft Feb 14, 2019, 1:45 AM

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it would be very easy to configure it to hold mouse down, etc, is that somehow different than an auto clicker?

lunar cobalt Feb 14, 2019, 1:46 AM

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As far as I know - if it is physical, like a piece of tape, it is allowed. I believe the only program allowed is windows clicklock.

long raft Feb 14, 2019, 1:46 AM

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damn steam controller can be configured to type out macros and stuff

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but its done in software, in the official steam controller settings for it

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my god that thing can be configured like mad

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if i didnt rely on a keyboard so heavily that would be my preferred method of playing it

raven zodiac Feb 14, 2019, 5:21 AM

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guys, we all are humans, no need to play fair card when whole game is so time consuming kappaflyinchicken

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I can also say that autoclicker and even ahk bot are not much effective w/o teammate helping u, so at the end of a day it doesnt even matter

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yep, botting is bad, but that's a minor issue compare to other threats like actual bug abuse or cheating, griefing

tender night Feb 14, 2019, 6:44 AM

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can we have the RGB values pinned? very helpful for everyone making stuff for Foxhole

lunar cobalt Feb 14, 2019, 6:45 AM

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👍

gentle sage Feb 14, 2019, 9:16 AM

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is this chanel only foxhole code things or can i post some silly code things ttoo

barren quarry Feb 14, 2019, 9:49 AM

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Its a geek den for anything code related

pure sierra Feb 14, 2019, 10:12 AM

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anything

raven zodiac Feb 14, 2019, 10:13 AM

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@gentle sage silly code things?

languid harness Feb 14, 2019, 10:25 AM

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@gentle sage it all says it in the Channel description and pinned messages

sturdy stream Feb 14, 2019, 11:11 AM

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So as we recently discovered the map images for Oarbreaker, Fisherman's and Tempest islands are outdated on the github repo. I can't find them in the google drive assets either. @pure sierra You said you had a way of finding them?

pure sierra Feb 14, 2019, 11:14 AM

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https://cdn.glitch.com/6393f3fd-16a7-4641-ae3d-994f8e7cea4e%2FMapTempestIsland.jpg?1548780335216

https://cdn.glitch.com/6393f3fd-16a7-4641-ae3d-994f8e7cea4e%2FMapOarbreaker.jpg?1548780336571

https://cdn.glitch.com/6393f3fd-16a7-4641-ae3d-994f8e7cea4e%2FMapFishermansRow.jpg?1548780340232

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try that

sturdy stream Feb 14, 2019, 12:38 PM

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alright thanks so much 😄

summer bobcat Feb 14, 2019, 11:33 PM

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ew .jpg

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@sturdy stream .png files are here if you want them: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tAUXolvEcetqLczbQ7xxbpcxOF-VbUgO?usp=sharing

sturdy stream Feb 15, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Alright thanks! No worries though, I compress them slightly to jpg anyway cause you win so much memory while still preserving 99.99% of the quality. I like making my apps as small a download as possible 😃

raven zodiac Feb 15, 2019, 11:08 AM

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@sturdy stream apps?

sturdy stream Feb 15, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Yeah I'm making a kind of "companion" app for foxhole

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android & iOS it's practically finished, just need to sort out all the AppStore & PlayStore stuff and then I can release it 😃

kind glacier Feb 16, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Someone shared this today and I think you guys should be allowed to enjoy it too. https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat

barren quarry Feb 16, 2019, 12:32 AM

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i know what this is instantly without clicking

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i love this talk and recommend this to everyone

kind glacier Feb 16, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Never heard of it before today

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coloniallol

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It had just about everyone in stitches

summer bobcat Feb 16, 2019, 1:29 AM

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interesting @kind glacier

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that was pretty funny

long raft Feb 16, 2019, 3:16 AM

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yea pretty funny

raven zodiac Feb 16, 2019, 5:25 AM

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we got em

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do u guys have 0 experience with c/c++?

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btw will this same video be funny for u w/o ppl laughing "in a back"?

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cuz if it will be then u can try to read about tons of other shit in these languages and have fun

long raft Feb 16, 2019, 7:39 AM

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his comic delivery was funny also

languid harness Feb 16, 2019, 9:27 AM

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@kind glacier Wat

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Died at the Java arrays and objects

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like what the fuck is going on there

pure sierra Feb 16, 2019, 9:40 AM

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Knew this was coming but nice to see it announced:

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WarAPI

■ Statistics like Casualty count are no longer cleared when game servers restart

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http://www.foxholegame.com/blog-1/update-22-dev-branch-released

foxhole

barren quarry Feb 16, 2019, 10:54 AM

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matt_greatsuccess

raven zodiac Feb 16, 2019, 1:15 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/533505030607863808.png?v=1

merry blaze Feb 18, 2019, 12:30 PM

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matt_greatsuccess

raven zodiac Feb 18, 2019, 6:26 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/204662526464622592/547118948328669195/1550513578-1683471.gif

barren quarry Feb 18, 2019, 7:15 PM

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axyenno

bright forge Feb 19, 2019, 5:21 AM

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In regards to the chats above with auto clicker and a using tape. I've developed a hardware fix for hold the LMB on long build jobs. Place your keyboard on it. I find that its a balanced solotion, as my hand is off the mouse and the keyboard is out of place, so it takes second or two to reposition and respond. GLHF. (Collie R&D Dept.)

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 5:42 AM

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yea but click lock

edgy harness Feb 19, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Click lock is grounds for ban. As weird as that sounds.

languid harness Feb 19, 2019, 7:36 AM

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yeah, never got that. How are you supposed to check?

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flying around construction sites, looking if people react if you suddenly land beside them?

red belfry Feb 19, 2019, 9:01 AM

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Fun

summer bobcat Feb 19, 2019, 9:06 PM

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@edgy harness ~~KFC literally said that's not bannable anymore~~ I swear the "being allowed" part was said somewhere, I just gotta find it

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:11 PM

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ban for click lock? lol.

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thats a refund.

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you cant ban me for my default laptop mouse driver settings

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i mean you can but ... ill get refund haha

summer bobcat Feb 19, 2019, 9:12 PM

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They can't even tell unless you fucking mine fuel for 6 hours

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:12 PM

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sure they can see me swinging my hammer at air

barren quarry Feb 19, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Yeah thats what i wanted to write too

summer bobcat Feb 19, 2019, 9:12 PM

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@barren quarry is the tool up?

barren quarry Feb 19, 2019, 9:12 PM

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The what, the website?

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Yeah its up

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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its kind of insane they have any say about my input means, is this the NYSE?

summer bobcat Feb 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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coolio

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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and that whole steam controller thing

barren quarry Feb 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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its now posted into #community-resources

summer bobcat Feb 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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@long raft The... New York Stock Exchange?

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wat

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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yea in the 80s when they hooked up computers to the NYSE for trades

barren quarry Feb 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Shame this devstream didn't have community highlights tho, i was really looking forward to it.

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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they implemented a rule they couldnt do that, because it was too fast to compete

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so these guys rigged up typing machines to enter their trades for them

summer bobcat Feb 19, 2019, 9:14 PM

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oh lol

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:14 PM

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like physical machines...pressing keys

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and then years later they realized how dumb that rule was

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but imagine youre dealing with somebody who uses macros or something because they have a physical accessibility issue

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e.g. is the late steven hawking not allowed to play this game?

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i know thats ridiculous, but ... yea

summer bobcat Feb 19, 2019, 9:15 PM

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If we keep holding the mouse button down, I'm sure all of us are going to get a physical accessibility issue

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damn fingers man

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:15 PM

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thats when i started using click lock, because i could feel that burn all up my arm

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and clapfoot probably doesnt have deep pockets

barren quarry Feb 19, 2019, 9:15 PM

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When i was a mod i've seen people with bots that would go around and mine fuel or components for hours

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that stuff we banned because its just too much

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:16 PM

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yea like full scripting

barren quarry Feb 19, 2019, 9:16 PM

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but putting weight on your mouse for several minutes isnt an issue

long raft Feb 19, 2019, 9:16 PM

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its ... kind of absurd to have to do

raven zodiac Feb 20, 2019, 7:46 AM

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why?

raven zodiac Feb 20, 2019, 8:15 AM

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"whites start and win" I dont need any *-ware trick to use "weight"

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but if I need to farm tanks for 2-3-4-5... hours I can go full-scripting mode

pure sierra Feb 21, 2019, 6:50 AM

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I was thinking to suggest we could talk about seeing is we could agree on something new to be added to the api, to request together. Nothing too hard for devs, but maybe something that could change the out of game experience, even if it meant revealing what would other wise be sided information that is generally known by both sides any way...

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 9:14 AM

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white (destroyed) fob locations?

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maybe it was too map specific, but I find giant missing pieces of map in my head when only the town halls are shown, i don't have a sense of where actual front line movement is happening

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because the fobs are missing - and the destroyed fobs would be known to both teams

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and perhaps its easy because its already similar to town halls

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 9:58 AM

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maybe a way to detect townhalls are being contested? that way you could draw estimated front lines

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like, two opossing towns with neither detected means the front is in the middle, and if one of them is contested you can let it slightly move depending on how long the fight is going

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 11:29 AM

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u mean sort of heat-map overlay for map?

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@languid harness

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📎 2015-06-12-drawing-heatmap-with-html-canvas-1.png

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I mean u can use some heat-map algo to make something similar

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 11:46 AM

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or just use some curve algo to draw curves but there will be some edge cases

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 11:52 AM

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I was more about curves

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which might slightly move depending on the "weight" of the points used

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high-weight = contested, low-weight = uncontested for a day

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If you would save all the data, you could get some advanced review capability for each war

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:05 PM

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dunno, Im trying to figure out which algo to choose for this

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mb some chart algo can work for this

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like u have x,y,0 for warden and x,y,1 for colonial

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mb heat-map algo is better, u just need to find proper way of filling cells, nothing more

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:22 PM

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hmmm

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I assume you are using some kind of libs or?

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because you could do my idea very easily vector wise

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it is a bit of geometry, but not necessary hard to do

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:27 PM

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nah, I was not using anything, just searching for same solved problem, like heat-maps, bezier curve mb some regression lines

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for example cell solution can give u then a way to detect frontline and draw a border

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no need for geometry

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I mean we dont need to call this simple calcs a geometry LUL

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:36 PM

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but we want efficiency dont we?

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This thing is running 24/7, so if you can cut on the effort it takes to draw something, that would mean less maintainance

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:38 PM

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thing is updating once in 5 minutes

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:38 PM

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and perhaps also allows for more effective data storage, which may be beneficial when doing research

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:38 PM

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so there will be 5*maps_count calculations + dont forget u can cache calculations

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like they were doing it in Doom 2 lol

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:39 PM

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lol

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:39 PM

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what do u mean by data storage?

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:39 PM

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well, you want to see what has happened inthe past right?

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:39 PM

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cell algo needed to find "closed paths" nothing more

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it depends on u how to store em

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:39 PM

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like, there is a difference between saving a bunch of PNGs and JPGs

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:40 PM

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no, I was thinking about sending paths to browser

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and then draw it on client side

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as overlay or sometihng

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:40 PM

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It is an example

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:40 PM

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just abstract from representation then

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:41 PM

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If you want to save griddata as for a heat map, you have a lot of data, if you can save a set of "random" datapoints and calculate from there, it would be more storage effective

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:41 PM

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u have map, u have size, u have townhall coords - that's all u need

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:41 PM

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exactly

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 12:41 PM

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nope, to hold heat-map u dont need tons of data

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at least in this case

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but it depends on heat-map lib tho

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and then if u need to store "past data" then just store townhall history nothing more

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so u can calculate every frame later caching calculations to abuse RAM etc.

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or some risky solution to store "updates only", not whole dumps

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bat even in this cases u can zip data, townhalls dump or heat-map dump, doesnt matter

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u just need zip many dumps at once for better ratio

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but I prefer not to start with premature optimization, better to have working algo so u can tweak it later

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Boop, drew something because I figured we were talking past eachother.

This is my idea, you create a set of linear formulas and find the crossing of those and based on that you can draw a front line. You can expand this by giving weight to certain towns based on how long they have been under control by the faction, in which case the perpendicular line would move over the relationship lines

📎 Geo-based_frontline_copy.jpg

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@raven zodiac It would require no actual extra stuff other than what is already aviable by the likes of foxholestats

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Or, if you want to make it as accurate as possible, ask for a "contested" flag to be included in the api

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and use that for the weight

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 1:10 PM

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yep, I sketched same solution some time ago, but if u have some isolated city what should u do?

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for example Endless Shore

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ofc u can apply ur solution for some maps, no questions

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Well, if you have a single city on the island, you can simply make no connections. You would just draw a single point on that island and base its colour on that

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Endless shore is quite easy in that tho, since every island has multiple holdings

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 1:12 PM

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but then again u need to fill area or draw a path

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 1:13 PM

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You could use a simple mask layer, could do it with 2 lines of code in python's PILLOW

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just draw lines, then overlay with a coast map

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 1:14 PM

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or use machine learning, sorry for this python joke

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why do u wanna draw it on backend?

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 1:15 PM

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idk, lemme sketch something

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 1:16 PM

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k, if u wanna use back end for prototype, why not

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 1:20 PM

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@raven zodiac you would draw something like this

📎 Geo-based_frontline2.jpg

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and then put the map on top of it with (partly) transparent layers

📎 Geo-based_frontline2a.jpg

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 1:27 PM

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yep, may work

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I just dont like do it like that

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preparing stuff by hand

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 1:53 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 1:54 PM

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but again, if this works for u - noice

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:04 PM

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by hand? you could automate that

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its a voronoi polygon

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i think it wouldnt be at all accurate with only the town halls as data points though

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:07 PM

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You can automate it fully, I made something similar where certain squares would e coloured based on data in a table, and then it would automatically overlay with a different picture with terrain of a map.

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@long raft and sure, it wont be super accurate, but it would give a little more of an idea of what is going on. It would be the easiest if you could get the data on defence positions and player actifity and all, but that would result in intel leaking and stuff, so with this detail it would suffice I think

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:09 PM

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destroyed fob

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gives you that intel

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it tells you the most recent defenses that have been destroyed - indicating where the front is

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and its not leaked intel

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:10 PM

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sure, you could add that to my idea as well; would require a script to detect the nearest couple of other bases

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but besides that would work I think

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:10 PM

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it would work but it would be ... extrapolated

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:11 PM

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((example of code output btw from earlier))

📎 new_map1.png

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:11 PM

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ive noticed people using the API for maps are very conservative and dont like to extrapolate

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:11 PM

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well, why would you?

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:11 PM

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lack of data points

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:11 PM

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you have a risk of displaying your intel wrong

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exactly, lack of data points

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But is it really necessarly game-wise to know everything?

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Wonder if you should, rather if you could, if you get what I mean

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:13 PM

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yeah

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:36 PM

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and then put the map on top of it with (partly) transparent layers how do u wanna automate that?

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ive noticed people using the API for maps are very conservative and dont like to extrapolate what's a reward? that's boring statisticall and event processing stuff

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:47 PM

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@raven zodiac well, there is a command for that in the Python Pilllow libary. Idk what language you use, but there is a lot out there

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:48 PM

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I mean u have map, but u also need split it to layers

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or "generate" layers from it

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:49 PM

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just open photoshop, select the interior, set it to 50% transparancy or something, then let it slap that layer on it after every time you generate the front lines

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:51 PM

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that's why I said by hand @long raft

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:51 PM

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i would automate it

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i would not use photoshop

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:51 PM

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This is what happens in my code:
1st line: the generated immage is assigned to Print_image variable
2nd: a cover image I once made by hand is pasted on top of it
4th Image is saved

📎 unknown.png

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:51 PM

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you throw the points into a scrip for qgis, you get voronoi shapes out, spit to CSV file, adjust color values on each row based on duration, then convert with ogr2ogr into raster image

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:51 PM

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you just have to use photoshop once

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:51 PM

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automate what? selecting areas on the map?

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still need hands

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:52 PM

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📎 Test_map_3.png

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this are the originals of the map I posted earlier

📎 Test_map_3_cover.png

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draw on top map, overlay bottom

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easy as that

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I mean, when u need this good lookin transparency u need to do it by hand

📎 Geo-based_frontline2a.png

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:52 PM

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no?

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:52 PM

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anything you can do by hand the computer can do faster

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you dont have to do it by hand, no

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:53 PM

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it does it automatically

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:53 PM

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dude, go, download actual Foxhole maps and try to teaach the computer to semantically choose proper regions

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😄

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:53 PM

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yea there are plenty of heat map calculators

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no its going to be sloppy, its going to slop over mountains and stuff

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:53 PM

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@raven zodiac it doesnt need to son

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:53 PM

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thats why its extrapolation

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:54 PM

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oh man, whatever, Imma outa here

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:54 PM

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that's why what we can see on picture should be prepared by hand

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:54 PM

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but it doesnt make it more correct to create regions by hand

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thats the problem with doing it. makes the map look better, but its not more accurate

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:55 PM

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what we are discussing, I just said that its too hard to teach computer to make good-looking layers to hide stuff

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just check our conversation

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there are 2 images

long raft Feb 21, 2019, 6:55 PM

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oh i thought you said the computer cant figure out how to set the colors

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:56 PM

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naaah

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I was talking about "hiding" stuff to make a good looking picture

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like at first we have this

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📎 Geo-based_frontline2.png

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but then we apply transparency masks

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📎 Geo-based_frontline2a.png

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but u need to prepare masks first by hand

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that's what I meant

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😄

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ofc u can try to teach intellect to find water etc....but that's ridiculous

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but on Endless Shore there are towns in the middle of the land

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so u need to prepare transparency masks by hand

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 6:58 PM

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it his really small effort, and you only hve to do it when the devs change the maps, which is just ike 1~2 every update, and takes 10 mins if you are skilled enough

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 6:59 PM

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yep, but as I said - that's just not my approach and if it works for u then "noice"

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nothing more, nothing less

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 7:01 PM

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idk, I am just a jack of all trades, for me this is an obvious way, but do as you please 😉

raven zodiac Feb 21, 2019, 7:02 PM

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since I dont wanna generate pictures on the server I cant go this road

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#thatsnothowmafiaworks

languid harness Feb 21, 2019, 7:03 PM

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lol

pure sierra Feb 22, 2019, 6:07 AM

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So something ive thought maybe we could talk about requesting for the api,

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something that would help with heat maps and knowing the front

pure sierra Feb 24, 2019, 7:52 AM

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no bites ? well maybe ill mention it later

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in the mean time here's a handy plugin for gimp i use for batch conversion and resizing of the api images https://alessandrofrancesconi.it/projects/bimp/

languid harness Feb 24, 2019, 8:03 AM

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@pure sierra well, we talked about it just a bit earlier before spinning off into a discussion about automated image editing

pure sierra Feb 24, 2019, 10:07 AM

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I know, but i was referring to my most recent comment , will ellaborate when i have time again

raven zodiac Feb 24, 2019, 10:54 AM

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so what we are at again?

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image processing, warapi ideas?

languid harness Feb 24, 2019, 4:56 PM

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@pure sierra uhm;,,,,,

📎 unknown.png

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Townhall so fresh, its babyblue

pure sierra Feb 24, 2019, 9:12 PM

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means its under cunstruction

languid harness Feb 24, 2019, 9:32 PM

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oh realy?

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interestting

pure sierra Feb 24, 2019, 9:36 PM

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something thats actually not shown in game any more

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so i have 2 ideas

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actually that one wont work

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i thought we could make the town hall logs public for stats, but that is sensitive

lunar cobalt Feb 24, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Yeah, that's pretty sensitive.

languid harness Feb 24, 2019, 9:45 PM

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dont want to hurt no TH feelings, do we?

pure sierra Feb 24, 2019, 10:16 PM

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ok so my other main original idea which is more a longer term one is

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To make all or some of the map intel that "OVERLAPS" public

languid harness Feb 24, 2019, 10:22 PM

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hdym?

pure sierra Feb 24, 2019, 10:23 PM

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In summary, The stuff that both teams see on their map, make public

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 6:59 AM

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What I want is full available log about everything possible but with 1 day delay

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kappaflyinchicken

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 6:59 AM

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not enough delay

lunar cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 6:59 AM

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You'd need at least a week delay probably.

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That would likely be something only available at the end of the war.

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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so what do you thing my idea ? In summary, The stuff that both teams see on their map, make public

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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I dont care, just gimme gimme info

lunar cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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Mhm. Would be a lot of work, as I don't think the system is in place for that.

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Would be cool though.

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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need 1 week - ok, make 1 week

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even current system is enough, just make it more verbose

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 7:01 AM

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all they have to do is compare warden intel against collie intel and the matches get reported

lunar cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Maybe. We don't know how they check intel though.

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 7:01 AM

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spam all updates to some simple server to store it as json, zip it, git gud

lunar cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Wouldn't surprise me if each sides' intel gets marked differently for every foxhole.

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 7:02 AM

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no it wont

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well it might

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but it shouldnt

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as each teams towers are seeing the same structure

lunar cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 7:02 AM

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this is foxhole...

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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the only problem i can see maybe with this idea is that peeps can keep copies of the intel after it is not shown in game, ie tower destroyed, but i think this bee too hard for any one to worry about keeping and displaying and it will also be ot of date

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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📎 1qhqez.png

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we all wanna piece of data

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International Open Data Day in Foxhole, When?????

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📎 unknown.png

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:36 AM

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I'd hate if all map info became aviable

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the whole concept of intel will go to waste

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You also need to have a reason for people to log on 😉

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 7:39 AM

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we dont need it for intel - just for timelapse

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for inf we already have enough info to find trends in casualties

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per region

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:45 AM

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Well, I think if it is added, it should be published by the devs after the war has ended

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because I bet yer ass someone is otherwise gonna get that data and use it to their advantage

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 7:46 AM

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depends on delay, if today I can get full data for same time from yesterday - its ok

young pilot Feb 25, 2019, 7:47 AM

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80 servers running on war map bot

📎 unknown.png

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:47 AM

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says 79

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 7:47 AM

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@languid harness for example, 1 day delay - why is it so bad?

young pilot Feb 25, 2019, 7:48 AM

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rounded

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XD

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:48 AM

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@raven zodiac well, how long do you think it takes to build a base, how often do they get made, and what can you conclude of the position of bases

lunar cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 7:48 AM

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@young pilot It still dies like once a day.

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 7:49 AM

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@languid harness conclude what? base's pos with 1 day delay is nothing

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:50 AM

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You know where the enemies stockpiles and such will be, where they have a vehicle depot and which are the "back towns"

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and so many more reasons imma not even bother writhing them down

lunar cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 7:50 AM

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It would need to be end of war only.

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:51 AM

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because I wont want to be here tomorrow

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@lunar cobalt agreed

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if you want that data for research, do it after the war

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not during that war

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 7:58 AM

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NOOOoooo......

dusk sentinel Feb 25, 2019, 8:17 AM

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@young pilot I still fucking love that bot, thank you and your guys for making that.

young pilot Feb 25, 2019, 8:18 AM

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it was broke yesterday and today

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lol

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 8:19 AM

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huh, someone made a mobile app

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https://www.reddit.com/r/foxholegame/comments/au8gy5/war_report_ios_android_app_for_foxhole/

r/foxholegame - War Report - iOS & android app for Foxhole

136 votes and 33 comments so far on Reddit

lunar cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Mhm. That's cool.

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 8:30 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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noice, ppl are going away from actual gameplay

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Social media addiction strikes hard

sturdy stream Feb 25, 2019, 8:52 AM

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@languid harness Yeah that's my mobile app 😄 If you have any ideas/suggestions/bugs/whatever feel free to message me

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And yeah, just doing my part to spread addictive gaming media culture 👌haha

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 8:55 AM

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I was not joking btw

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 9:05 AM

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hhehehehehe

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 9:05 AM

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hey @sturdy stream , nice work

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 9:11 AM

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ok, I will give this game another six month to see what will happen

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 9:17 AM

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oh, your so negative sometimes

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 9:18 AM

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the moodswings of this man, unmatched

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 9:46 AM

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just added mobile detect

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now a mobile will default to the slim version, though full is still a choosable option

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 10:31 AM

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hey, @native moth i dialed back the saturation on the colored icons, what do you think ?

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Im not negative, and there is no mood for this sort of things

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game and community moves in some weird direction so there is no point of tracking changes more often than once per 6 months

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I also dont get the point of shifting focus from playing game to some social stuff, so 6 months

raven zodiac Feb 25, 2019, 5:05 PM

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tracers and blood are fake, we have big ping (servers are located in canada), but ppl are in love with some app for smartphones? nah, that's some bs, I need to give it a time to grow kappaflyinchicken

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 5:16 PM

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idk, I regular check up on the game even tho I dont play regulary

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the fact I am in this discord is a tribute to this, and I regularly use foxholestats. I would get this app if I had the space on my phone for sure, would reduce the hassle

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Also: I made in the spawn of this day a Discord bot for playing checkers, it has basically everything except removing enemy pieces, but then it would be pretty much done I think

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📎 unknown.png

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((spend most of the time actually implementing a system that prevents you from placing pieces on top of each other))

barren quarry Feb 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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I feel like the amount of coded community content compared to people that actually play the game is enormous

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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hehehehehe, for sure is

barren quarry Feb 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Maps, tools, apps, wiki, timelapses

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Its almost as if community is participating in development

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 7:16 PM

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also throw in all the art 😃

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:18 PM

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^

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 7:33 PM

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have you heard of murphies law ? it goes something like, Step 1 - Go on mini publicity blitz for the website, Step 2 - Make some changes, breaking it not knowing, Step 3 - Go to bed....

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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good thing I actually dropped it already

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but I dont think that is how murphies law went to

barren quarry Feb 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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thats how i fucked up the interactive map recently

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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he had several

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Everything that can go wrong will go wrong

barren quarry Feb 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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i added the code to record the warapi every 5 min, was supposed to upgrade it in the 2 weeks but was lazy

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so yesterday it ran out of space (190 mb)

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and just stopped working

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 7:35 PM

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oh

barren quarry Feb 25, 2019, 7:35 PM

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it wasnt responding to my commands either because the disk was full so i had to manually delete the database file

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:36 PM

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what

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lol

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 7:37 PM

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yeah thats nasty when u run out of disk space that bad

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do you think disk space will be a problem with you storing that data ?

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@barren quarry

barren quarry Feb 25, 2019, 7:47 PM

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i turned it off

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apparently the colonial discord has a bot that posts events

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so i can just parse that

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:48 PM

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lol

barren quarry Feb 25, 2019, 7:48 PM

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so i just record the casualties now

languid harness Feb 25, 2019, 7:48 PM

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wouldnt rely too much on that

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perhaps make a discord of your own for storage

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 8:24 PM

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"apparently the colonial discord has a bot that posts events" is this mine or someone elses ?

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@barren quarry

barren quarry Feb 25, 2019, 8:27 PM

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@pure sierra this one

📎 unknown.png

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is this yours?

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 8:27 PM

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i think so

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looks like my format

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i have all that in a db if you ever want it

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i push that data, my event log, to anyones discord that wants it

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@barren quarry

barren quarry Feb 25, 2019, 8:42 PM

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okay

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i will contact you when i need it

pure sierra Feb 25, 2019, 8:57 PM

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np, its not big all events since i started recording are only 8mb

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~87,000 events

summer bobcat Feb 25, 2019, 10:16 PM

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@sturdy stream damn, nice work on that app bro

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Especially considering that an Apple Dev license costs $100+...

sturdy stream Feb 25, 2019, 11:09 PM

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The price of a hobby I guess haha 😄 Hopefully I get to make more apps in the future to get the most out of it.

lunar cobalt Feb 26, 2019, 12:31 AM

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@barren quarry Yes, that is hayden's.

young pilot Feb 26, 2019, 6:10 AM

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im in a lecture right now, they are not fucking around lmfao

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umbral mulch Feb 26, 2019, 6:39 AM

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oh god

languid harness Feb 26, 2019, 7:40 AM

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@young pilot what else? Is it required to offer a child to the bloodgods?

pure sierra Feb 26, 2019, 7:50 AM

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maybe he's trying to make it hard

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like whats wrong with using a continue inside a foreach ?

pure sierra Feb 26, 2019, 8:15 AM

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i guess they they are trying to make it easy to mark without a spaghetti of logic flow

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and no shortcuts or ways out of weird logic situations by coder

summer bobcat Feb 26, 2019, 10:43 AM

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@young pilot G L O B A L V A R I A B L E S

barren quarry Feb 26, 2019, 10:46 AM

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i must confess, i use global variables a lot

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like, if you need to do multiple operations with a set of data at different times, where do you store it inbetween the operations?

summer bobcat Feb 26, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Use a static object uwu

languid harness Feb 26, 2019, 11:49 AM

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I use so many global variables for my stuff

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but like honestly, why wouldnt you

sturdy stream Feb 26, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Only globals you should ever use are constants. Actually mutating global data is a rabbit hole that will kill any code base 😛

languid harness Feb 26, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Welp, never had issues with it

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but to be fair, I havent run my codes for a longer periods, so perhaps storage gonna give me headache

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also update on my Pi: I have finally a mini-hdmi cable, this week is a really busy one, but next week I have a "free" week, so hopefully I can get everything running in a weeks span

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and then eBic discord bot adventures

long raft Feb 26, 2019, 6:38 PM

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globals are as bad as singletons!

pure sierra Feb 26, 2019, 7:55 PM

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i dont normally use goto, but the few times i have they have been very useful

long raft Feb 26, 2019, 8:46 PM

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agreed! modern languages need a break command that can say how many loops to break out of, like:

for(x...) for (y...) break 2;

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goto ends up useful there

languid jackal Feb 27, 2019, 3:06 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_sfui2w740 @edgy harness

YouTube

tim page

Car AI ProtoType

seeing as i didnt get to show it off in experimental i thought id record the demo and show you via the video, however a recent lecture in high level has give...

▶ Play video

edgy harness Feb 27, 2019, 3:07 AM

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.

languid jackal Feb 27, 2019, 3:07 AM

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at the end the one of the cars misses the trigger box that tells it what lane its in

edgy harness Feb 27, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Nice debugger :p

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I see.

languid jackal Feb 27, 2019, 3:08 AM

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yeap welp a shame i might be doing away with it all XD

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some of the instructions were mixed up though which is why it slow down when it shouldnt on straight parts

umbral mulch Feb 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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nice music

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lmao

languid jackal Feb 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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well i figured id go with something more chill

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not sure some people would apreciate alestorm

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or dragonforce

latent osprey Feb 27, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Is there a way to get infos about a Soldier / User and his War History?

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Would be awesome if there is a way cause with this and Steam API we could check if someone can be trusted as warden or Colonial

pure sierra Feb 27, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Sorry @latent osprey any players information is not available anymore, bt maybe in the future

latent osprey Feb 27, 2019, 10:11 AM

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Damn

languid harness Mar 4, 2019, 9:47 AM

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((foxhole stats is down for me))

pure sierra Mar 4, 2019, 10:01 PM

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yeah, it did, i rebootied it though, thanks

summer bobcat Mar 4, 2019, 10:31 PM

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rebootied

edgy harness Mar 5, 2019, 12:37 AM

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rebootied

tender night Mar 5, 2019, 5:04 AM

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rebootied

sharp breach Mar 5, 2019, 5:21 AM

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rebootied

lunar cobalt Mar 5, 2019, 5:21 AM

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rebootied

umbral mulch Mar 5, 2019, 5:36 AM

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:defaultdance:

pure sierra Mar 5, 2019, 6:24 AM

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languid harness Mar 5, 2019, 1:26 PM

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dab dab dab dab

summer bobcat Mar 5, 2019, 9:47 PM

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when did this become #cringe-corner ?

barren quarry Mar 5, 2019, 9:48 PM

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when you quoted a typo HBjoy

languid harness Mar 6, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Maybe rebootied this channel?

summer bobcat Mar 6, 2019, 12:44 AM

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/11/620_million_hacked_accounts_dark_web/

620 million accounts stolen from 16 hacked websites now for sale o...

Dubsmash, Armor Games, 500px, Whitepages, ShareThis, and more said to be up for grabs for $$$s in BTC

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goddamnit they got the salt

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well, time to spend an hour changing a couple of passwords 😄

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Also, Spectre 2.0?

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edgy harness Mar 7, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Not relevant to this channel. @neat fossil

neat fossil Mar 8, 2019, 4:31 AM

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??? I've post something here ??? @edgy harness

edgy harness Mar 8, 2019, 5:12 AM

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02Nod something about Warden clans. lol

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@neat fossil

neat fossil Mar 8, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Ohh lol sorry.. I thought I was on the off topic channel

pure sierra Mar 10, 2019, 9:36 PM

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ooh la la ! i spotted some new values in the api !!!

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@barren quarry

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@sturdy stream

barren quarry Mar 10, 2019, 9:37 PM

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29 is a fort

pure sierra Mar 10, 2019, 9:38 PM

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im talking about the two first keys

barren quarry Mar 10, 2019, 9:38 PM

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okay

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what are they telling us

lunar cobalt Mar 10, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Better key to location maybe?

pure sierra Mar 10, 2019, 9:39 PM

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i guess unique identifiers

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maybe they will use them to match up witth the text items too among other things, though currently those keys are empty in static

barren quarry Mar 10, 2019, 9:40 PM

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my current functions for matching objects in foxhole global are fucking horrible

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they have to use region id, x and y

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so i guess this will help

pure sierra Mar 10, 2019, 9:42 PM

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im guessing also one may be unique overall and the other just for that war ?

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not all objects have it yet though

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barren quarry Mar 10, 2019, 9:45 PM

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@rocky spade can you provide us some insight into these new things?

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the objectindex and objectserialnumber

pure sierra Mar 10, 2019, 9:48 PM

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maybe @noble sage can

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so this new feature is why my event log has been reporting spurious events for team none

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some objects index/serials are changing

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triggering my event code

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this is a bug

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but i can code to accomodate it as usual

barren quarry Mar 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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thonkspinning

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hm.

noble sage Mar 10, 2019, 10:04 PM

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@zealous sonnet might know

pure sierra Mar 10, 2019, 10:04 PM

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thanks

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im also thinking maybe its something to do with the new resistance phase

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for items that go between wars

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@barren quarry

barren quarry Mar 10, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Could be

pure sierra Mar 11, 2019, 6:35 AM

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anyone noticed this ? https://github.com/clapfoot/warapi/issues/49

GitHub

Provided RGB colors for team shade seem waaaaay toooo dark.... · ...

lunar cobalt Mar 11, 2019, 6:41 AM

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That's the color as far as I know

pure sierra Mar 11, 2019, 7:48 AM

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its practically black though

lunar cobalt Mar 11, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Not on my screen.

pure sierra Mar 11, 2019, 7:53 AM

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screen shot your color picker with the hex value in it

lunar cobalt Mar 11, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Is that what you want?

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pure sierra Mar 11, 2019, 7:54 AM

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yes

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now tell me how that is the same color as this:

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#394c35

lunar cobalt Mar 11, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Hmm

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Let me see something...

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Colonial_emblem

pure sierra Mar 11, 2019, 7:55 AM

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or

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lunar cobalt Mar 11, 2019, 7:56 AM

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That's from the emblem

pure sierra Mar 11, 2019, 7:57 AM

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that is not relevant, its meant to be the colors for the icon team variants

lunar cobalt Mar 11, 2019, 7:57 AM

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It is relevant. Because that is the color it should be.

pure sierra Mar 11, 2019, 7:57 AM

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as they are not always providing team variants now

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regardles even that is different

lunar cobalt Mar 11, 2019, 7:57 AM

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tender night Mar 11, 2019, 8:48 AM

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@pure sierra pinned messages

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wait i'm confised

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*confused

pure sierra Mar 11, 2019, 8:13 PM

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https://github.com/clapfoot/warapi/issues/51

GitHub

Rocket sites not changing ownership · Issue #51 · clapfoot/warapi

So it seems as if eg wardens start build site, and the collies come along and complete it and or use it, it is still attributed as being owned by wardens, and thus any events i attribute to it, suc...

pure sierra Mar 11, 2019, 8:41 PM

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so phil says objectIndex and objectSerialNumber were never meant to get into the API and thus just ignore them as they will be removed @barren quarry

barren quarry Mar 11, 2019, 9:30 PM

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julianlol

cold siren Mar 12, 2019, 3:24 PM

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This is suppose to be code talk yes? Okay. I will send a coded transmission through here sometime in the near future.

languid harness Mar 12, 2019, 4:00 PM

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@cold siren it says on the top, read the pinned messages first 😉

cold siren Mar 12, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Oh, my apologies.

placid ingot Mar 12, 2019, 9:02 PM

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CoDeS n StuFf

little briar Mar 13, 2019, 1:21 AM

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But if most of the code is blueprints?

pure sierra Mar 13, 2019, 1:21 AM

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...

little briar Mar 13, 2019, 1:21 AM

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@long raft point is you don't know what you're talking about. When you have more experience in UE4 come back to me

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otherwise you're talking out your ass

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I'd rather not waste my time explaining the ins and outs of the engine

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You can google that yourself