oh, I've been doing some art of my own
#art-discussion
blissful heath
a low-poly Warden soldier for Tabletop Simulator
although of course it doesn't hold a candle to nearly the entire community's artwork quality
night bronze
...meanwhile I sit here and draw this xD
eager raptor
MMM yes armor car
willow remnant
Does this look like a functional track set ?
buoyant crest
I think it would slip
and I am unsure how you join and unjoin the seperate links...
cobalt tinsel
I saw a video of a renovated T-whatever
and it used pins to join tracks
and the pins would ocassionally smack against the armour every round so they would be rammed back in.
severe carbon
@night bronze That AC/Field gun looks great!
muted marsh
iirc it was the T-34-85 that used that system
uneven sorrel
@dire plinth working on another remake, I'm trying to use your tips, I hope it looks good
dire plinth
@uneven sorrel looks amazing, tense, I like it
uneven sorrel
😉 👍
wet vigil
thinking of dialog
blissful heath
something something watching jade cove burn is beautiful
pallid tangle
something something senpai notice me
buoyant crest
something something something
runic linden
something
olive cove
@dire plinth What do you think of this, I'm not the best with environments so that's why I keep putting off completing this piece
Kinda wanna try making it into a piece without lines though, but I have a hard time doing art without linework
carmine jolt
wait is that a collie paying homage to a dead warden
buoyant crest
@olive cove really nice character
would be a shame not to complete the background
The trick here is posing, I think his current position isnt very exiting
Try looking into rule-of-thirds and action diagonals
The natural eye is focussed on the 1/3 and 2/3 of an image, and is drawn to objects on the diagonals
using the frame as posted, you get this:
this lays the focus on the Battle tank turret, and thats it
perhaps, if you colour it with noticeable colours, the village in the background
what you want to do it place large objects that need focus on the pink lines, and things that need assosiation on the cyan diagonals
framing is a hard thing to learn
I used to always make the mistake of placing everything important in the middle, but as you can see, that actually has the least possible focus
Here is an (very old) example of a photo editing work of mine; a piece of driftwood on the beach:
now, it is not a particular interesting image if you look at it, but your eyes are drawn unconsciously to certain points of the image:
you have the piece of driftwood in the front in focus, the piece of driftwood in the background consciously out of the focus line. A diagonal passes right through the grill of the attena, assosiating the whole together.
You can see that this was an experiment, as I failed to place the window or Keep-out board on the lines, which is a waste
Now I could crop this slightly removing stuff on the right side, which would put the pink line on the attena-door part, but that would A. put a diagonal on the background wood and B. would make it unhandy moving the sign, so imma move the sign and window to more interestting positions
so this is my quick fix, ~4 years later
And as you can see, it looks slightly more lively, lays the focus different. It are small details, but they help shape the bigger picture.
Hopefully this was somewhat helpfull
by the way, these are just the two tricks I like to use; there are many more! The best way to get them under the knee is just trying to photograph stuff with your phone, attempting all kinds of things
If you look at the bottom of this article, you will have an refbox, go the the composition line and just take a look at some other methods. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(visual_arts)
wikipedia has some good reads on this subject fortunely, but it might all be too much at once
so just try something out and see how it turns out 😉 @olive cove
blissful heath
my warden is looking more like a pair of toilet paper rolls than a warden
but hopefully I can sculpt this into something more human
daring ferry
blender?
blissful heath
maya
left wind
Toilet Warden y'say?
carmine jolt
very sekrit caoivish super soldier do not leak
remote lynx
@buoyant crest that change on the driftwood did absolutely nothing for me 🤔
buoyant crest
I didnt say it did much@remote lynx
If you compare them directly, you wont notice much, but if you see one and than the other with some time apart, you will clearly see a change in focus
left wind
Perfection.
desert forum
Armor
dire plinth
@olive cove @buoyant crest rule of thirds is not necessary. That is much more used in photography. Artists have their own methods to add POI.
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Line thickness: closer objects have a more defined shape, so a stronger contour. Objects sitting further away from the camera are less defined, so they have a thiner contour to nonexistent.
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Details: thick outlines should live along with thin inlines. That means, the BT, if it is important, should be next to the character, bigger and more detailed.
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Character should be detailed too and from there, find a third POI. 3 is the general number. The 3rd one should be the graves. Add details there. But in this whole scenery, the BT should be big and there should be little to nothing cutting off it's details. Don't put if in the bushes, unless you draw a character sitting on it and chenge the POI on it.
- Shading: alternating shading, light on dark and dark on light creates POIs. The general rule is: dark should have little to no details. Light should be extremely detailed. We focus on lights, not on darks, since we are not owls
buoyant crest
As I mentioned, just I gave some examples of things I tend to use ;)
You indeed bring up very good points
dire plinth
@buoyant crest it is true that positioning can be done with the rule of thirds, but if you forgot to use it, you can still apply thd very principles of traditional arts.
buoyant crest
and rule of thirds is used a lot of landscape painting, but that is beside the point
dire plinth
Rule of Thirds is actually a guideline more than a rule. It is intended to help the artist with the placement of the elements and focal point within the composition. But, if you want your viewer to ignore the other parts of your painting, then go ahead break a rule and center your subject
Found this
Which is true, it is a guideline, rather than a rule. It is bad if you don't use it, but you also don't create focus on your POIs.
The viewer is left floating in the middle, confused
buoyant crest
The guideline/rule part goes for sowhat all the techniques; you need to find something suitable for everydrawing, as you cannot always use the same trick on different situations
they are tools to make things interestting, but you wouldn't use a sledgehammer to remove a nail, would you?
I personally felt the rule of thirds was applicable to this situation thanks to stretched 'objects' in the drawing
there are a lot of vertical lines going on, and the trick is to make the most important vertical stand out
willow remnant
@wet vigil I think that it would look like that:
- The person in front of her just talked about something very emotionally powerful, a secret, a situation sad enough to make her cry but she try to be here for her friend by smiling and probably by saying "Whatever happen I'm here for you" to support this person
severe carbon
I think she’s a yandere and doesn’t say anything and just stares into your eyes for way to long
remote lynx
Rule of Thirds is actually a guideline more than a rule.
I'm aware of it, but other than keeping it in mind, I almost always just improvise
¯_(ツ)_/¯
or just shoot whatever picture I think looks nice
Like this, I think this looks nice
cobalt tinsel
Something is off
uneven sorrel
Quick progress update
runic linden
Wish I could draw as good as that
round moth
i said the same thing im my head for a sec
pallid tangle
holy shit this is amazin
dire plinth
@uneven sorrel hmm, I think you need more trees, but like, less saturated, blue trees. It is empty, I can see where the forest ends in the background, but then, there is shadow. Darkness. There is a mountain there too, but there is no need for it.
Sky should be bright blue but brighter, more saturated in the middle, right side of the image. That whole area should be circular bright above and cut down by the trees below. Make me look at it first. But no worries, the sky is not completely cut as the god rays are guiding my eyes, slowly, on the HT. Once reached the HT, I want to feel ambushed by the less saturated, sneaky folks in the bushes. Don't give them to me before I reach the sweet point of interest, which, btw, should never be in the complete center.
What I mean by that: you need to have multiples of 3 points of interest. Why is that? Because your eyes will constantly search the 3rd one, in case you have 2, but they are not an obvious contrast which is extremely and unnecessarily hard to achieve. If there are 4, people would tend to completely ignore the 4th. So, your best bet is to go with 3, grouped up in a story. Your viewer's eyes should adventure in your painting and then leave pleased, full of joy.
See what I did above? I enter the painting through thd sky, which should be in the middle right side of the painting. As I am slowly leaning on the god rays, I see the HT. The Halftrack should be in the middle left side of the screen. Now, the HT should bs bright and detailed on the bright side and low on details and unpolished in the dark side. I don't care about all of it. I don't have to sit there too much. The ambush needs to be swift. Go for a single soldier with many more details, but be careful. He should be darker (as it is closer) than the forest and also more saturated and detailed. The soldier should be, imo the one on the right. After I look at the HT, a light on the rifle will catch my interesf to look on the right. That is when I find the ambush and I realise it. I look at the soldier, starting from the tip of the rifle, going throigh all the details near around the other soldier's helmet, where I lose the details and the interest on this character and I look for the next one, the one crouched in the middle. The guy will be a bit more blended in the bush, and then the one crouching, should be amost invisible, or at least unnoticeable. Then the one on the left is the end of it. The moment I realize the catastrophe and I finish the story with a conclusion, with a real end.
Sorry for the novel and thousand of mistakes, I hope you understand what I mean.
uneven sorrel
hmmm something like this? i not sure if i did it right @dire plinth
carmine jolt
fuck i envy you dude
uneven sorrel
like this?
dire plinth
Good, you see how right is full and left is empty, now?
What if you bring the action to the left side? Make the Half track bigger, the danger more imminent
I mean, closer, not bigger.
But if you do that, bring a bit over, to the left.
The idea is. Right side is too concentrated and I don't want to look only there. I want to watch the whole painting. You have many interesting POIs, but none in the left.
The soldier doesn't count. I will still feel like looking to the right, it needs to be harmony.
Now, actually
You can leave it like this, make the godrays and brightness in the whole sky area
Add some vehicles to the right. Where you drew thd vehicle, make a convoy.
Now that would make sense to have two ATs pointed at a poor lonely HT, wouldn'g it?
dire plinth
Yes, and thd truck now should be behind the light.
So less saturated a d lightet, blending with the background.
An hour of fixing mistakes, but I have to tell you that it is a great drawing!!
uneven sorrel
😁 Thanks, and thanks to you it got a little better
dire plinth
Haha, no worriieees
I love to comment and critique as much as I love to get them. 💜
And I always think that both pro and beginners should try to critique. For pros, they help beginners. For beginners, they understand what they see.
uneven sorrel
true
remote lynx
For beginners, they understand what they see.
I actually have no critique. I know you don't need to be an artist to be an art critic, but in this case it does apply.
dire plinth
@remote lynx you HAVE to wish to learn art to critique.
remote lynx
I stopped wanting to learn how to art a long time ago
I decided I just couldn't do it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dire plinth
Well, then don't critique. 
Kidding, there is no I couldn't do it. It is only: I tried, not my cup of tea. Next.
remote lynx
I'd argue there's a difference between it not being your cup of tea and not being able to make anything worthwhile
dire plinth
Yeah, but if you have the time amd passion to go forward, you do it. If you don't have it, it mens it's not your thing.
There could also be the fact that you didn't started with the bottom of the piramid
remote lynx
piramid?
dire plinth
Perspective, shape, line and gesture
That is the begining.
Proko gave a great example of piramid
Uh, I said shape, proportions
remote lynx
And I wouldn't even place on that picture
*not a complete pyramid of drawing skill stuff
Yeah, I'd be about 2-3 tiers lower still
dire plinth
Uhh, how can you be lower than the foundation?
remote lynx
I can make a fridge drawing and that's about it
dire plinth
It does not include waht would be above the foundation, like everything, but the foundation is solid
remote lynx
So which video is that picture
dire plinth
Look up for proko
remote lynx
guy has 340 videos
dire plinth
I don't really remember which one, I wanted it a while back
remote lynx
396*
olive cove
@buoyant crest @dire plinth thanks for the advice, the thing with the BT was that I was gonna add a column of vehicles going down a road to the town in the distance, that's why the tank is kinda hidden because it's moving
But it seems like I'll have to restructure most of the piece to work better before I work on coloring
buoyant crest
I figured based on a sketch what I assumed to be a truck front side 😉
And restructure might be a big word; it consists mostly of moving things around and connecting lines again
Also, apparently still a controversial opinion: you def dont need to be able to do X to critique X; it is a matter of knowledge, and the cool part of art it is quite easy to learn (but hard to execute). I learned most of (the basics of) my art technique between the age of 15 and 18 based on things I saw in museums. Although I defintly havent mastered most of the stuff I learned, I can still execute theory on other works of art. I completly suck at picking colours, but am able to tell when a palette is 'good' or 'bad'.
Likewise, it still holds for things like football (soccer); yes, you will have to know the rules, but after watching a dozen matches, you will be able to tell if a keeper is defending a lot of shots, or someone is well in dodging others.
@remote lynx ^ forgot to tag
rocky tiger
remote lynx
@buoyant crest I often find that the beginner level tutorials aren't actually as beginner as they claim.
buoyant crest
That is because the average maker of a tutorial is not a teacher and sucks at tutorial making @remote lynx
Its an 'hobby' of mine to destroy tutorials. I intensely hate the "do and don't"s type
remote lynx
Here's one that I followed for a while: http://www.thedrawingwebsite.com/beginners-drawing/
Lvl 0 in particular
buoyant crest
que??????????
daring ferry
well
buoyant crest
like this should be a red flag imo
daring ferry
guess im not talented
buoyant crest
There is no such thing as talent
cobalt tinsel
afcourse there is
buoyant crest
Get that shit out of your head
buoyant crest
Exactly, and it should be called skill
daring ferry
and using a nearly 8 year old mouse is not gonna help me draw
cobalt tinsel
some people have a natural mind for strategies. but that is probably a product of how they grew up, their hobbies etc.
daring ferry
brain connections
buoyant crest
I used to use ikea pencils, its a matter of adaption @daring ferry
buoyant crest
I destroy many many utils due to stress biting, so most of my tools are bought for 100 items for les than 10 euro
remote lynx
Bruh, the process is hardly ever enjoyable.
daring ferry
photoshoping is kinda ok with a mouse affected by parkinson, but drawing with it is a real pain
remote lynx
I gave up on that tutorial years ago and haven't tried since
I did try to partake in that month where you draw a picture each day
gave up after day 2
daring ferry
are there good open source drawing softwares around?
buoyant crest
But who says you have to work digitally? @daring ferry
fluid saffron
krita is pretty good
remote lynx
The issue I suffer from the most is that drawing badly isn't fun.
daring ferry
exact
buoyant crest
Many comic artists draw on paper, and digitally colour it later, ever tried that?
remote lynx
Oh yeah, I suck at that too
runic burrow
I find it fun to draw badly
remote lynx
I don't
It's like trying to cook yourself a meal and burning all of it to a crisp and having no choice but to eat it too.
daring ferry
pretty accurate
fluid saffron
atleast it is better than not cooking anything and starving
buoyant crest
Then you should try making coal 😉 @remote lynx
fluid saffron
you are bound to get something edible in time
remote lynx
@buoyant crest I mean, my inability to draw directly led to me picking up the pen to write instead
buoyant crest
I am aware
but you whine considerably about drawing
so you want to learn to draw
remote lynx
Because I want to draw, but not draw badly
buoyant crest
and that is all that is needed
remote lynx
Those 3 images I made that got into Community Highlights? Those were fun to make, but I didn't do any drawing in any of them.
daring ferry
sometimes you can be better in another style than drawing, its about preferences
like video editing
buoyant crest
You set high standards for yourself, too high. Work step by step. I draw things a hundred times before even trying to implement them. Don't measure yourself with the work of others, but only that of your own. @remote lynx Just look out of your window, make a drawing and then make it again next week, and again and again. Need to draw the line straighter? Try stuff, ask around, try googling. You need to be curious. Getting on a train only brings you where they laid the rails. Your development is fluid, and you are aware of many spacing and design things (you have been on CH trice!), so use that knowledge to reinforce your drawing skill. Just simply start by making a sketch on paper before making anything digitally, it will contribute vice versa. And at some point, you will have enough feeling to perhaps detail the sketch. There are many ways to structure the learning, but they all come down to simply doing it. So find a method which forces you to do it as often as possible. Dont grade it, you dont have to show it to others, heck, it doesnt have to look like anything.
Just do it ™️
Perhaps, every morning make a sketch of shapes based on the front picture of the news paper. Can be small, in the corner. No one bothers with it, takes one minute, can be the start of a thing
remote lynx
Don't measure yourself with the work of others, but only that of your own.
I already do that, and I don't measure up. :/
fluid saffron
well you might be measuring the drawing you last did, you compare too soon, compare every month and you'll see improvements
buoyant crest
Make a simbol at every item on your agenda. It doesnt have to be sensible, it can simply be a failed circle and somthing that looks like a triangle.
And what @fluid saffron says, I compare my works with from at least a year ago
cobalt tinsel
turtle is right. I made my pixel tank while looking at a red alert 2 apocalypse tank and a sherman firefly. its absolutely not perfect because its not 1:1 on every drawn axis and the lightning is all over the place. it took me 3 different tries to get an acceptable pallet. and even then its not even based on a real sherman design, its just inspired by. I iterated 5 times over the sideview until the proportion became acceptable. its all about redrawing and drawing until it fits right. and sometimes it just doesnt fit right. cough my chonky first try
fluid saffron
your growth is over time, like a slope
remote lynx
Like, the last picture I made, with the 3 tanks? It was decent. Not good, just decent.
It could be so much better if someone else had done it
cobalt tinsel
I am going to make some coffee now
fluid saffron
nobody else did it so how do you know.
remote lynx
Already had mine
cobalt tinsel
because I need that when looking at pointers to pointers, that point to a pointer to a next pointer... what???
remote lynx
nobody else did it so how do you know.
Because the picture is not unique and I have seen many others before it
buoyant crest
@remote lynx no one else could do what you did, because you did it. It is the fact you did it. No one will know the struggle, effort, decisions that went prior to it.
cobalt tinsel
art idea. draw a man pointing to another man that points to another man... etc. give it the caption ''coding''
fluid saffron
maybe your interpretation is unique. it might be the same subject but art is mainly people's unique interpretations of something
remote lynx
no one else could do what you did
Hell yes they can. I'm even surprised I managed to get it to where it was with the limited tools I have.
fluid saffron
people have drawn faces a hundred thousand times for a thousand years, Rembrandt draw his faces his way, thats what makes him unique. same concept applies to you.
buoyant crest
@remote lynx I dont think you understand what I mean. Its like you dont read the rest of the sentence
ffs, there are three people trying to convince you to do a drawing
do you think we are joking with you
I am willing putting effort into this convo to convince you, and you are picking on little parts
Get the bigger picture
draw, dont look
get a paper
Now
draw
remote lynx
draw what?
remote lynx
WHAT
buoyant crest
TRIANGLE
SQUARE
they dont have to look good
now repeat
repeat repeat repeat
at some point you either draw them better, or you start drawing something else
just DO IT
remote lynx
I can't draw stuff that doesn't have meaning.
So I draw 30 squares. Great. What has that got me? 30 pointless squares.
buoyant crest
draw this
this
this
If you think drawing 30 squares is pointless, then you draw something else.
fluid saffron
here homes, https://drawabox.com/
fundamentals
make sure to do
fun drawings too
dire plinth
draw box, then an open box, then multiple boxes
then multiple open boxes
perspective and structure at the same time
fluid saffron
also if you want "free" drawing instructionals you can use libgen to get them
plenty of books
cobalt tinsel
I swear there was a comic for this
''I want to learn how to draw'' on the first screen. and on the second screen is someone being forced to sit down and draw alot
I think by the odds1oneout
daring fox
Talent does exist.
Some people have natural prepositions that allow them to be better than others at certain skills and hone them better.
For example powerlifters that have better genetics will perform better than any ectomorph body type.
Anything else has the same “formula” to it too
Mathematics too, some people are just better at logical thinking than others
Thats why autistadors love numbers as associations
Numbers make sense and are logical
Autists have less sense for feelings, as in emotional, and thats why they feel so attached fo stacking stuff etc
Those tasks require no emotion, and can be “automated” by the brain
Some people are better at certain things due to “talent”. Of course, talent can be summed up like “potential”
If potential is not used, it means nothing.
remote lynx
@buoyant crest just for you 
buoyant crest
ngl, that is how I draw snails
remote lynx
Took me way too fkn long to figure out how to post images on discord mobile
buoyant crest
Was trying to find a drawing of a snail in my dummy, but instead found this
Looks like I was pretty frustrated with drawing looking at my writing
buoyant crest
anyhow, anyone wanna see my horse sketches I just made?
Imma wrn you, I cannot draw horses even with reference, and I did without reference
It is actually a quite funny page, you can tell that as you go down the page, the design slightly improves. It only took 32 sketches to get to something I would say, that might be a horse perhaps
And Imma not say, look at the drawings, but look at the progress
remote lynx
buoyant crest
simply repeating improves the design
Not gonna lie, I think this is the closest I have been to a horse
a shit, it is way skinnier
and it doesnt have raptor rear legs
remote lynx
oh now it embeds
flint leaf
horses are hard man
they got
long snoots
bendy legs
chonker bodies
it's a whole mishmash and you have to balance it perfectly to make a believable horse
remote lynx
As far as videos go, I still think this one is funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxiSdorkogM
dire plinth
cobalt tinsel
I just noticed the front leg should not bent that way
also the reason why my horse is so decent is probably because I do horseback riding
dire plinth
Oh, the dog with a knife in it's mouth. Classic.
analog pike
cobalt tinsel
its a beit of a weirdy cat
analog pike
improved quality version
cobalt tinsel
the back should concave
remote lynx
@cobalt tinsel I can't help myself
remote lynx
I always draw without reference
The image in my head is almost always the only reference I have
cobalt tinsel
bad
reference is better
because you can spot details you otherwise wont visualize
remote lynx
I only once used a reference, it turned out decent
But most of the stuff I sometimes did draw simply did not come with a reference
buoyant crest
the back should concave
Idk why but this is so omnious omg
@analog pike Foxhole x mud and blood vietnam
Wait... Can I conclude from this you never traced? @remote lynx
cobalt tinsel
err
this one was supposed to go better
but I fucked up the legs
well the thing is horses have a bunch of muscles up their legs
remote lynx
@buoyant crest traced what?
cobalt tinsel
they are the pronounced features of a horses body I guess
buoyant crest
Hehehe, try jus drawing a bunch of legs at once! @cobalt tinsel
cobalt tinsel
and then you have some weird shapes on the head
they got pretty big cheeks
big eyes on their side
but their snoot goes in a bit. while their mouth is enourmous
buoyant crest
@remote lynx drqwing tracing. Google a picture, set brightness to 100%, place paper on it, trace drawing with pencil
buoyant crest
Gives a good (elemental) feel for curves and texture
You should try some time then 😉
remote lynx
I need something I want to draw, first
buoyant crest
Go to google, type in image, result!
remote lynx
having something to draw =/= wanting to draw something
In that regard I never draw for drawing's sake
Which is why endlessly drawing pointless shapes is something I don't do
buoyant crest
It can cru- that looks like a horse
remote lynx
thicc horse
buoyant crest
It can sometimes crunch, and sometimes you need to go smooth
Draw what feels right
And if you dont know, drill
buoyant crest
Just draw a shape and fill it in
remote lynx
None of them feel right because I don't have a picture in my head that I need to put out in the world
cobalt tinsel
and then find the shapes in what you want to draw
because the shapes are the features
remote lynx
When I do, that's when I want to draw
And that's also where I fail to live up to the picture in my head
cobalt tinsel
I mean do you think this lived up to the picture in my head? noeeepee.
I am still not sure if I see a star or a muzzle flash
remote lynx
I think I got my muzzle flash down
cobalt tinsel
that looks pretty good
lets draw a 32*32 pixel tree
you know what
lets not do that
because wat the heck
shading on a sherman is hard
on a tree?
wtf
cobalt tinsel
@buoyant crest
small boy
I realize the shadow is the wrong way around
what about it
buoyant crest
Lol
cobalt tinsel
ooh
I get it
the light comes from the lower left
so everything from the lower left should be lighted
left wind
🤔
glad mural
@analog pike
dead harvest inspriation
When zombies kill all reach a certain amount to their objective they summon the devil himself
analog pike
Nope, Foxhole: Vietnam-esque edition
Government-side Infantry (yes, that's one hell of a looong carbine)
your thoughts ?
rancid carbon
Velinam
runic linden
Welcome to the Wildwoods mf
analog pike
Caovia-backed independence insurgency (and yes, they have way less uniformity than collies)
what do you think ?
Coat of Arms
rancid carbon
you should give them rice hats hehe
blissful heath
If this is jungle warfare you should do an ambushing-style animal
one that hunts etc.
also one that wouldn't fit in well with normal Warden emblems like a tiger etc.
analog pike
An Encounter in the Open
blissful heath
is it WWII tech or Vietnam-era tech
analog pike
roughly the same tech as on the Velian Front
analog pike
exception being gyrodynes (for scouting purposes, but can be outfitted with rocket launchers) and two-rotor helis (troop/cargo transport but can also be used as an bomber)
so still WWII tech
imagine devs making "SftD" an limited-time event, sort like Dead Harvest, but with a whole new world map featuring a new Africa-inspired continent.
dire plinth
@covert salmon The last guy looks like harry potter, the guy in the middle looks like KFC and 3rd one looks like cowboy from Full Metal Jacket
1st one is a ghost
covert salmon
So Casper?
Look at that uniform tho
The darker trousers, od green jacket, black shoulder pauldron (Ik it’s the parka collar), and M1 helmets
dire plinth
Yeah, collies indeed
covert salmon
what do you think ?
@analog pike I’d renovate the camo tbh. Can’t go wrong with tigerstripe tbh
analog pike
@covert salmon Yeah, that camo can be redone
covert salmon
I’ll do up a Tigerstripe for you when I get home
analog pike
near folio
Warden army stands in shoddily-built formation.
analog pike
candid citrus
Colonial humor at it's finest
half spear
Very cool
analog pike
It's pretty obvious which regions are gonna rebel against collies
ebon pelican
i once had an idea about one of the colonial merber state levaing and then messa tryin get them back in line
i this form the flower for marta?
or a fanwork whole sell?
yes Morrgain?
dire plinth
But, well, the Legion is an Union, they united under the Empire's threat. Though do not quote me because it is not written anywhere, there is just a few piece of text stating that
ebon pelican
yeah i alway had that thought
dire plinth
The threat itself is unknown, though it might be related to comercial routes or something close go the WW1
Or commercial policies that were enforced in the states of the legion. I think Mesea had the initiative to unite and get the trade routes back.
But Matt could bring some more light on it
I can't ping Matt? :o
analog pike
The whole idea of "Sympathy for the Devil" scenario is to have it's own take on Foxholeverse from different place with different themes, but still set in the same time as slugfest on the Velian Front.
It's sort of Bush War, Boer Wars and Vietnam War mix
dire plinth
Can you try to ping Matt?
Anyways, I was curious to get an answer from him, what would be his idea of a "beginning of this conflict"
Oh, @tardy coral hey, KFC, you talk with Matt, what would be a possible scenario in which Colonials and Wardens began the conflict? Trade routes? Agression? How did it happen? I know it is 'unknown' but we need context in that regard to make art. For example I started a Foxholeverse futuristic idea that will make an overhaul of the whole game's artwork in the future of Foxhole. I want to know aboug the conflict. A bit more, hints, opinions, etc. but a dev is the most suitable to help me.
tardy coral
HAH fat chance
dire plinth
facepalm really what is your opinion on this? XD
I promise not to take it as cannon.
wispy schooner
but you know everyone else will
buoyant crest
@remote lynx wait, did you do the foxhole reddit characters
dire plinth
See, purple everywhere. I wasn't playing foxhole back then.💜 💜 💜 💜
remote lynx
@buoyant crest What?
buoyant crest
Community highlights
Because I thought someone else did it
But I cant remember who
wispy schooner
@dire plinth did you draw a comic? those look awesome
dire plinth
@wispy schooner yeah, I did, but stopped due to lack of time. I plan to continue it.
runic linden
[Breaking news] Warden Military aircraft dominate the skies over Caoiva (circa 802 Colourised WIP)
runic linden
Trace-over art is so easy I get it over and done with within an hour
cobalt tinsel
Too much information on the same picture
cobalt tinsel
Yeah but it doesnt help
analog pike
but, in fact, I don't have clean version of that map I made
cobalt tinsel
Try displaying overlapping cultures with a dashes lines
Like how occupied territories show up in maps
analog pike
Maybe someone can do better job than me
cobalt tinsel
Try moving the text into its own key
or even better
draw lines in like a super stylized map
so you have a key
and from that key there are lines going to their own cultures
but the lines cant overlap
so you end up with a key lines that look like a subway map
buoyant crest
Dont have both region and culture names on the same level
I cannot see what text to focus on
cerulean anvil
What kind of dumb country puts their capital right in the coast? Are they looking to get bombarded by sea attacks from far away in the ocean?
Good drawing though!
buoyant crest
Uhhhh, Not to worry you too much Terrento, but quite many capitals are on or very near coasts
cobalt tinsel
this isnt foxhole where you lose your city by killing the townhall with a gunboat
remote lynx
Still bothers me that control of a region is determined by a single building
somber vapor
buoyant crest
@remote lynx as a reminder of the conversation yesterday https://www.instagram.com/p/CAHT7HslWP_/?igshid=n37614cojvlh
remote lynx
now all of my excuses are gone
"just don't be depressed lol"
It's a nice idea except it don't work like that
He says it himself
"if you do it first"
If
cobalt tinsel
you need to join a discord for people that try to improve themselves with mental issues.
fod aint good for you if you have depression
remote lynx
Usually I have a decent lid on it while it sits in the corner and I tell it "not today"
But my art skills is where it comes out again
cobalt tinsel
have you tried pixel art yet?
remote lynx
I mean, that's also why I started doing those posters. Because no one else was doing them. But soon enough other people were passing me by and I could no longer keep up.
Imagine the Wright brothers using their biplane experience to build a fighter jet.
cobalt tinsel
imagine building something of which there is no physical, mathmatical or theoretic concept of
remote lynx
have you tried pixel art yet?
I have in the past, but I suffer from the same problem as with regular drawing.
imagine building something of which there is no physical, mathmatical or theoretic concept of
If I could, it would have a concept 🤔
cobalt tinsel
come on lets go, a tree a day keeps the coronavirus at bay
remote lynx
Yeah, I can't do trees like that
cobalt tinsel
me neither xD
remote lynx
The things no one else is doing is the stuff I find joy in doing, like that picture with the racing tanks. Bet let's be honest, taking pictures of the 3d models and shopping them in is a poor substitute.
cobalt tinsel
try doing line art then
remote lynx
I'm not sure how that's any easier than drawing
cobalt tinsel
you get a feel for shapes
buoyant crest
But @remote lynx, every time you make a drawing, it is a new plane!
remote lynx
No?
buoyant crest
You came up with an idea! So its a plane!
remote lynx
That's the thing, I didn't
buoyant crest
You need the broader perspective 😉
remote lynx
Don't you just love making something and then finding out several other people already did and they did it far better?
It's like buying an item at shop A after searching for 3 hours and then finding it cheaper at shop B 10 minutes later.
cobalt tinsel
why would you make anything with that perspective. why would you make a game engine when unreal 5 will blow you out anyway. the answer is simple, because you made it.
remote lynx
There is very little I've made for the purpose of being able to say "I made this"
buoyant crest
But timebr, if you foubd them after you have done it, you are in no way a faker; you just reinvented the idea independently! And that is not soemthing bad, that just means the idea is a good idea
remote lynx
If someone else can realize the idea better... Or like my first year IT prof said: "Beter goed gejat dan slecht bedacht"
remote lynx
I mean, when you make the art for the express purpose of showing it regardless of who made it, why not show someone else's better art instead?
buoyant crest
Because there is no reason to think yours is bad
There are people out there showing a white canvas
remote lynx
My tank charge image is proof of concept at best lol
buoyant crest
You should not only make art for presenting it to the world, same reason goes for musix (which is an art). You also need to 'play' to learn it
Not everything is a presenting piece
cobalt tinsel
LOOK
remote lynx
There are people out there showing a white canvas
I believe I'm the only one, but I really like a white canvas because it embodies potential. Just like how the cat is both dead and alive until you open the box to check, the white canvas is both the masterpiece of the century and a fridge drawing until you put a pencil to it.
buoyant crest
And that tankposter is cool
buoyant crest
@remote lynx see, that is an interpetation how that idea is a plane
remote lynx
And that tankposter is cool
But it could be cooler
buoyant crest
@remote lynx No it couldnt
Because it would be a rip off
And everytime someone makes a variant of that poster, I will think of your poster
remote lynx
I meant that picture that made the second last community highlights
buoyant crest
I know what I am talking about son
remote lynx
you confused me for a sec
No it couldnt
Yes it could, as when you look closer, the grass or lack thereof sucks ass
as an example
remote lynx
the grass would complete it
buoyant crest
If you had grass, the contrast at the bottom would be different
The weight would shift
remote lynx
I already had a hard time hiding the fact that the tracks don't touch the ground
round moth
was that red alert 2 up there or am i mistaken
remote lynx
or that the lighting on the tanks is wrong
buoyant crest
And no, dont think I am overpraising or something because there are some improvements to be made, but those are always there
I like the poster, and would have wanted to make it myself
remote lynx
The one thing I did really like was the ricochet
buoyant crest
You should stop looking thru your own eyes. You are being too perfectionalist.
cobalt tinsel
@round moth you are not mistaken
its my corona project, trying to code in a super simple RTS with red alert style
cobalt tinsel
I already made a tonk
I am making a tree now but it isnt looking good
yet
I hope
remote lynx
You should stop looking thru your own eyes.
Looking at it through someone else's, I'd say the scene is great but the actual art is no more than 6/10.
buoyant crest
Fuck people, where is that damn pie comic
Alright I cant find it, so imma do it in words.
cobalt tinsel
eh I think my tree failed a bit didnt it?
buoyant crest
TITLE: HOW ARTIST ARE LIKE.
Panel 1, man puts down a simple pie besides a three layer cake. He thinks "man, my pie suck.
Panel 2, another person arives. Says "wow nice! Two pies!"
remote lynx
wait no wrong one
cobalt tinsel
it exactly be like that
the body is like 2 shapes
and the rest is detail
lets draw an owl
buoyant crest
@cobalt tinsel the branches have to go both in front and behind the leaves. Think of a bunch of little clouds connected by sticks
remote lynx
I can't tell if you're intentionally glossing over the picture's meaning
cobalt tinsel
@buoyant crest yeah I am on it
I am making more deliberate shapes for leaves now
something went wrong with the layering as well
buoyant crest
Also, you wre aware that image is a critique on the artist craze of making step by step drawings, which where often terrible to say the least? @remote lynx
remote lynx
They're all missing steps 1.01 through 1.99
buoyant crest
I am also in progress of going to bed, and like to answer stuff in order
remote lynx
I sometimes see nice paintings people made and they're like "I followed Bob Ross and I've never painted before" and I already know how it'd be like
Bob Ross: "let's draw some happy little trees"
Me: "How many? How thick? What color? Where?! Aaaaah!"
cobalt tinsel
remote lynx
ow fuck I slipped! What now, Bob?
"Happy little accidents"
Aarrrgghh
remote lynx
it's all I have
cobalt tinsel
I used to be like that timberwolf. when I made ships in minecraft, starmade or from the depths I often went like. ''well this doesnt look good at all''. I have so many ships that just have such a weird shape that I decided to never finish them.
its a form of perfectionism you just have to learn to let go
a happy little chonky ship
remote lynx
Nah, mine would just beg for the sweet release of death
cobalt tinsel
I have several ships that I just never finished
and then there is this perfect one. referenced from dreadnought hull and the bismarck superstructure
after 10 tries
remote lynx
@cobalt tinsel Speaking of unfinished things. Ever read 'The Property of Hate'?
cobalt tinsel
also I still have perfectionism in from the depths. I have focused so hard on realistic ship design that whenever I dont want to build realisistic I often find that I just cant
art is very much the process of just going at it
and sometimes things dont work out
and they will never see the light of day
locked away in depths of your creative dungeon. slowly becoming the foundation of the skills youre building
that reminds me of a story my creative arts teacher told me back in vmbo
remote lynx
Intermission
https://i.redd.it/rzhkei2uubd41.png
cobalt tinsel
he wanted to learn how to draw, so he looked for a master. found one but the master didnt want him
so he persisted in wanting to be his student, day in and day out
eventually the master allowed him. and you know what he did?
he set him in front of the same window every day
and just told him to draw what is in front of him
if something changed, he had to redo his drawing
and that is how you learn how to draw. you go at it, make mistakes. trash the paper. go to bed and do better tommorow
heck thats how rembrand learned how to draw
and even his art wasnt considered a masterpiece untill he died
look at what the difference of 1 tree of practice makes
wow
afcourse it helped that I bumped it from 32x32 to 64x64
remote lynx
Crappy drawing out of spite 2: Electric Boogaloo
remote lynx
lol no 3d
just me erasing a bit with a semi crappy eraser
cute
That was the idea, yes
remote lynx
you mean softly back and forth over the paper?
cobalt tinsel
yeah
remote lynx
Only when I don't need to nail the drawing
remote lynx
need to tag @buoyant crest for that drawing
cobalt tinsel
remote lynx
@cobalt tinsel this one's for you tho
remote lynx
But hey, at least I have a quick way to digitize these now that I have a phone with a camera
Though the circumstances that forced me to get one were... less than ideal
cobalt tinsel
haha, make a series of tanks with increasingly more motivational words
good job
excellent
wow
remote lynx
remote lynx
I did draw a duck
remote lynx
brazen grove
remote lynx
@cobalt tinsel
cobalt tinsel
lol
remote lynx
you should see the rest of 'Hetzer & Friends'
dire plinth
This... this is cursed...
runic linden
that basically sums it up
Though I was thinking along the lines of "What the heck?"
carmine jolt
love how the guy put watermarks on every panel like any sane man would steal this
polar plinth
An insane man or a woman could steal it
buoyant crest
@carmine jolt This is no comic for sane men
left wind
auge
tender locust
from my friend 天线
rancid carbon
I will never too close again
daring ferry
@remote lynx is it the sloped AMX tank?
rancid carbon
amx 40
daring ferry
the super fast and flat one?
its great
smol tonk
it was made to be airdrop-able iirc
remote lynx
I was glad when I was able to sell mine for the 12t
then the french got added to war thunder and I stopped trying to get the AMX-13 in world of tanks
rancid carbon
ngl I've been enjoying WT ground forces
daring ferry
i hated playing french low tiers
rancid carbon
man I love the char 1 bis
daring ferry
the firts tank destroyer get one shotted almost all the time
rancid carbon
got a lucky roll and ended up with a tailsman on it
italian teir 1s tho
godmode 47mms
daring ferry
i never played them
rancid carbon
and I LOVE the little tankette
daring ferry
do they rely on firepower mostly?
rancid carbon
lol
but its pointless to grind italian tanks unless you really like armored cars
memeing with FIATs is fun tho
carmine jolt
my favorite downtime is going to backline regions and shouting at builders digging trenches
queen cloud
add arm
my favorite downtime is going to backline regions and shouting at builders digging trenches
@carmine jolt but many men dig trench at front,In most cases enemy jump in the trench and shot friendly FOB
tender locust
From my friend 天线
He like this game, hope this game Better and better
From Chinese who has played 3 years foxhole ,he can't use discord, so i help him post his pictures
night bronze
I am a simple man, I see train, I like
queen cloud
from my friend 天线 《Train's story》
He like this game, hope this game Better and better
From Chinese who has played 3 years foxhole ,he can't use discord, so i help him post his pictures
,too
cerulean anvil
I see train, I commend.
atomic latch
Good effort
desert forum
AT (Armored Train)
tender locust
From my friend 天线
Story: some wardens want to destroy the Train track ,trian AC first come here,colonial Military police alse come here with bicycles and killed them.one of colonial are Injured And made a simple dressing,one of colonial talk to AC sir, Wounded Personnel Need a ride by ac
queen cloud
trenches connect the future
runic linden
almost done, just need to work on the background
gentle sky
is it bad that for a second I thought it was a warden and colonial dabbing
severe carbon
Do you ever doodle and know you should stop, because the concept makes no sense, but keep doodling because ‘what else are you going to do?’
half spear
it be like that sometimes
cosmic bough
Arent doodles about not making sense?
stark shard
Does anyone have a favourite vehicle they think I should model?
blissful heath
I'd love to see a Warden plane in the style of the F4U Corsair or the Macchi C.202
stark shard
right away the corsair looks cooler imo haha
but then again I like the colour blue more than the colour green
I'll look into modeling and texturing this 🙂
stable leaf
What about a subchasier and or submarine
i was thinking in the future the next big boat would be that
stark shard
@blissful heath should I be correct in my assumption that you want to see a warden plane with the livery of one of those two others?
blissful heath
It's less of the paint scheme and more of the actual plane design
the shape, length etc. IMO would be similar to the F4U or C.202
carmine jolt
as long as its roundish im not complaining
blissful heath
There are in-game wrecks that you can look at for inspiration
and they look similar to the SB2C or Corsair or that style of plane
carmine jolt
there's one at the home region hangar i think
stark shard
I'm not too familiar with planes admittedly, so the more reference you can provide me, the better I can tackle this
https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/013/976/040/large/bogdan-turbin-ward.jpg?1541928927 something similar to this, but in the style of...
this?
is that right?
blissful heath
There isn't any concrete outlook on Warden plane design
but from looking at existing Warden vehicles
the Warden planes should be rather rugged
the C.202 is a mix of sleek and rugged
it should have a radial engine (like pictured) and should have sharp curves over sleek curves
and these curves should be parts of a circle
I say the F4U because it's got a radial engine and is 'circular'
Look at Italian planes of WWII and you can't go wrong
stark shard
so a plane with a round fuselage- prop engine, and wings that end in rounded tips?
blissful heath
Yeah
stark shard
for the f4u corsair, do you want the wings to have the "bend" in them too
blissful heath
The prop shouldn't come 'to a point' - it should be a radial, where the engine is visible
Give me a sec
this is the in-game plane that the Wardens use
Something of this sorta 'style'
stark shard
https://puu.sh/FLnAw/eb0a230baf.png so like this but with a rounded bit covering the connection
blissful heath
The real-life planes I've mentioned are similar in style
Yeah, that's good
The one on the right is the in-game one
stark shard
trip to the canadian royal airplane museum before it closed was worth it I guess
blissful heath
and the one on the left is a recreation from wrecks before the fixed version was added
Make something similar to the plane I linked but make some changes
primarily the tail which is just purely 'wrong' as to how planes fly
stark shard
https://puu.sh/FLnCJ/134d40abf2.jpg there were some odd planes back in the day
so- Single wing, round fuselage, rounded propcap, rounded wings, better tailend *possibly more similar to the 4fu rather than what is currently present
and always deployed landing gear
is that everything @blissful heath ?
blissful heath
Landing gear retracts, the in-game models are just landed always
so there's no 'in-flight' model
stark shard
ah, I don't particularly want to rig this to change modes, so is there a preference?
blissful heath
Do it with gear deployed, but with evidence that they do retract
so NOT like the Stuka which has fixed gear
stark shard
gonna need a photo of what you mean by "evidence they do retract"
I'm looking to make this moderately low poly mind you
stark shard
ah0 I can probably just put a black spot on the model texture for that to insinuate there being a hole
blissful heath
Yeah, something like that
stark shard
right, 3 or 4 prop blades?
https://puu.sh/FLodN/63ddea4096.png @blissful heath is this apropriate for fuselage?
blissful heath
Make the distance between the cockpit and nose a bit shorter
but aside from that it's pretty good
runic linden
I should prb make a fair disclaimer about this but the aircraft I used aren’t my design, they’re based off the Dutch Fokker DXII Sarja and the IK-3. I just fiddled around with the paint scheme to give it a Warden/ Colonial feel and played around with these aircraft
elder tulip
that looks like a carbon copy of the f4u right now
what are u going to do about the wings?
stark shard
extruuuuude
elder tulip
gull wings?
stark shard
like the actual f4u?
I thought @blissful heath was wanting something more like the straight wings
uh... should I go straight or gull?
blissful heath
Go slightly gull - like the image of the in-game plane I posted
steady knot
@stark shard what software you use to desing this plan?
elder tulip
software looks like maya
stark shard
I'm modeling in Maya ;D
elder tulip
there u go
elder tulip
just taper them and give them a slight dihedral
stark shard
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Vought_AU-1_Corsair_Standard_Aircraft_Characterisics_1953.PNG/1920px-Vought_AU-1_Corsair_Standard_Aircraft_Characterisics_1953.PNG thank goodness for wikipedia
runic linden
That actually reminds me of another aircraft
stark shard
is that a good or bad thing at this point haha
stark shard
blissful heath
Looking good :)
I'm learning Maya myself - any tips for someone who knows not much more than basic planar mapping and cut, extrude, target weld, etc. - those sorts of things?
stark shard
ah lol
Planar mapping is the worst
I personally select my object, apply a general camera based UV, then select and cut edges for seams
then unfold
and then the Mesh Smooth is great for gettng a round shape without poles like the default sphere
and then finally the smooth mesh mode and crease tool is a REALLY useful way to move quickly when modeling. Make the rough shape in normal mode, hit 3 to switch, select edges and do the shift+right click and find Crease tool. THen middle mouse drag to crease your selected edges.
after this, you just go to Modify, Convert, smooth mesh preview to polygons, and then get rid of the extra edges
this process usually makes an even number of edgeloops, so it's easy enough to delete them and retain the original polycount
peak oyster
@stark shard that looks great, just seems to lack guns. I missed the convo on the actual role of this, is it a recon plane or a fighter or something? either way, its very impressive
stark shard
I asked if anyone wanted me to model a vehicle and this was the 1st thing suggested
stark shard
🙂 I've sent an application in to Clapfoot for their open 3d artist role
peak oyster
are you planning on rigging the model or is it just a display piece?
stark shard
I mean I'm not the best a rigging- but I could give it a shot I guess
peak oyster
Riggings a bitch
stark shard
at the very least I'll have the prop spin 🙂
peak oyster
Nice, good luck
stark shard
Thanks! It's been rough since I graduated College 2 months ago
stark shard
I found the job posting on the Canada Job bank after it spat me out there when I applied for the student benefit
peak oyster
well good luck, hopefully you'll get it, from what I've seen your work looks great ^^
peak oyster
You sure? that model looks pretty fuckin solid too
stark shard
Here's a tiling texture I made out of Normal Stamps that I made in Zbrush
And here's a kitchen knife I did for my texturing final
peak oyster
Thats very fancey, using bumpmaps on a flat plane? or are the cobbles modeled
also very nice on the knife, too, I like the wood finish
peak oyster
ooooh
stark shard
based on tesselation settings
peak oyster
so you can apply it to a surface and it auto "textures" the entire thing?
stark shard
er... no it still needs UV's for it to work properly
but it tiles across the entire thing
here it is on a building
peak oyster
I like how it forms layers of similarly sized blocks to create straightish lines, thats very "clean" to look at while still looking like it would realistically
stark shard
yea, the beauty of making tiling textures is the ability to do stuff like this
without seams
and then my Enviro Final was this beauty 😄
peak oyster
That'd be a really cool boss fight, tbh. Wierdly reminds me of that one vampire ship in Dreadfleet
stark shard
it's probably the raised plateau
peak oyster
Probably, yeah
stark shard
funnily enough, my favourite render of this is actually a close up of the hand- Marmoset behaved very well lol
peak oyster
oooh, do you have that on hand?
stark shard
hnnnnng that depth of field
🙂 you just get that lovely bokeh in the background haha
peak oyster
Oooh, very fancey
lighting makes such a difference, too, honestly. I have done like 1 actual render and its part of an ad in the latest presscorps bulletin, honestly I really need to do more modelling/texturing
stark shard
Marmoset Toolbag is, the best real time render imo
aptly dubbed the "Portfolio Prince"
peak oyster
I personally just use blender, honestly
stark shard
I need to learn blender :S they only taught Maya at my school
peak oyster
blender is complex but not difficult, if you understand what I mean?
I find it pretty easy to use, personally
stark shard
I know it should be easy once I get into it
and I've seen a lot of really cool stuff that it does
https://puu.sh/FLrxI/e0137fe4c9.mp4 but I still love Marmoset haha it's not just a great tool for rendering, but also a powerful baking tool
peak oyster
is that based off of a canon pokeball or is it just one you made to look preeeeeety?
peak oyster
ooh, very nice
stark shard
https://puu.sh/FLrA4/c1682f2150.mp4 another cool thing about Marmoset is it's cool plugins
so you can render out breakdown shots
peak oyster
is that just using the bumpmaps as the textures? b/c it certainly looks like it
stark shard
yep
https://puu.sh/FLrB8/ed8f2d2c45.mp4 Marmoset even has built in presets for setting up things like turntables
peak oyster
oooh, nice, its a tad hard to tell there cos it looks a little more like the light source is spinning, but thats pretty cool anyway
stark shard
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Bmrdw4 but by far the coolest thing is it's built in exporter for standalone/web based model viewing
the top element in the page is a marmoset viewer
https://puu.sh/FLrEU/1685d13e7c.mp4 best thiiing ever haha
peak oyster
So like
an inbuilt sketchfab thing but better? thats pretty amazing
stark shard
yep 😄
peak oyster
A while back, me, @high ledge, @bleak elk and @blissful heath worked together to get this thing into being
stark shard
if you still have the model file, I can try my hand at lighting it for you
One of my classmates made this skullkid model, I made a lighting scheme for him 😄
peak oyster
I do, but if we ever revisit it, we'd prefer to do the lighting/whatever on our own, but thank you very much for offering
skullkid 4 sm4sh confirmed????
stark shard
lol
I'm actually surprised they never did put him in
his moveset would so be full of prankster like moves
peak oyster
he's an assist trophy in Ultimate, I think he was an assist in 4 too, but I don't really remember
like cape and confusion?
stark shard
maybe
peak oyster
or pocket, or some kinda counter
stark shard
what about a bomb that swaps positions lol
peak oyster
anyway onto a different topic before I get sidetracked designing a moveset
peak oyster
same but like
I do not have the time to design a game and also do other things
stark shard
mechanics are my favourite thing really
peak oyster
mechanics is very vague, which is great honestly, lets you fuck around
any kinda genre you prefer to theorise mechanics for?
stark shard
I kinda like to do everything haha
peak oyster
thats fair, lol
stark shard
I devised a combat system for an ARPG that uses actual rhythmic notation to make phrases (combos)
that had different weapons with different time signatures thought of
peak oyster
so like, a freestyle rhythm game but you fight people with it?
stark shard
pretty much
peak oyster
freestyle ddr duel obvs the only thing that could be
stark shard
the idea is that the weapons would be based off instruments, and play a generated melody based on player input
peak oyster
like uhh big band from skullgirls kinda?
carmine jolt
reminds me of patapon lol