See not a result, but a process
#art-discussion
dire plinth
remote lynx
it's just not there
dire plinth
Not from your imagination, nobody can. We all use references.
You cannot simply make sfuff without seeing something first.
remote lynx
The only thing I can see is the end product in my head
dire plinth
Invent a colour or an animal, for example, you can't.
remote lynx
But it's not an image I can copy
dire plinth
Okay. That is for now.
karmic stream
There is hard work put into it you need to weigh if the hard work is worth it. I say for me yes and encourage you to keep trying. There are many plateaus to art skill. You will eventually start to see the image before but it literally takes man hours.
dire plinth
Well, what I said was philosophycal
remote lynx
you need to weigh if the hard work is worth it.
Only if I actually enjoy doing the work. The result doesn't matter if I can't enjoy the process
dire plinth
Try to draw objects in your room. Have you tried that?
karmic stream
sometimes it takes a different approach to what you are used to. Like not working digitally but with paint and getting messy. lose control over being precise. Or practice from photos. Do copies of art from artist you like.
dire plinth
Like, 3 times? Looking how much you improved from last time? I mean, Julian worded something much better than me. We encourage you to keep trying because simply said, why not?
Oh, I do copies from rembrandt. It is a disaster.
remote lynx
I can try drawing stuff that's in my room, but I won't enjoy it because I'll only end up looking at my own failure.
dire plinth
But if is fun in the end to see how bad I am but how it slowly gets to approach to the drawing I try to make
dire plinth
It is
remote lynx
it not
dire plinth
Why is that? In fact, yo uare always worse than somebody else, so why nof make fun of it?
remote lynx
my own failures bully me, so no it's not fun
dire plinth
Cause you leg them do it.
karmic stream
I used to have an old deviant art account with art I never want anyone to see now. At the time I could not believe art is enjoyable because everyone was better then me. I realized I was trying to enjoy it based on other people liking my art. But no one looked at my page cause I was a bad art student lol.
remote lynx
I refer back to the sushi comic
dire plinth
My spelling, god.
remote lynx
I used to have an old deviant art account with art I never want anyone to see now.
Mine's full of writing
dire plinth
Well, you can write, if it is more enjoyable than drawing
remote lynx
But I had fun writing it at the time, so I kept doing it until I got better
remote lynx
if it is more enjoyable than drawing
tfw sometimes you cry your eyes out instead
lol
dire plinth
Cause life is not all shades. It got lights too. ;)
karmic stream
XD so I took myself entirely off line, I still showed art to teachers and artist friends but I stopped trying to make people like my art to 'enjoy the reaction'. And started doing hundreds of studies. I was told to draw things I could not and always focus on what I thought I was worst at. I did and still do.
dire plinth
Julian, my painting? (:
remote lynx
:^)
dire plinth
Yeah, I mean, wherever you look, that is the best advice. Practice what you can't do and draw what you can do to take a break.
karmic stream
Its hard but I enjoy the challenge. And I too get really down at times and hate the art I am making. All artist do.
remote lynx
It's an odd mix though. To enjoy writing, but end up crying profusely at the same time. 
remote lynx
it was while writing my art contest submission 
dire plinth
Artists' paradox: to enjoy your art and to curse your life for making it.
Or the opposite XD
Here, Julian
karmic stream
you can't prechoose what will be a success or what people will like you just gotta try
remote lynx
I do wonder if anyone ever figured out the last line of my submission
karmic stream
This looks good the forms and shapes seem good. The planes of the nose need work. Highlights and shadows. Right now the nose is lost in the cheeks and overall looks flat
remote lynx
I like to think the hints were there
dire plinth
Yeah, nose was a problem and I studied it's planes a bit more, I will try it again
karmic stream
work with highlights that are out of your comfort zone. go brighter then you think you should
dire plinth
Hmm, I always use highlights and shadows from the lainting
As you see I used purple for the pauldrons
dire plinth
Yeah, I simply use that concept that all object from the composition should share a bit of all colours, that painting technique.
karmic stream
Adam and I are doing a 100 portrait study at work. taking photos and doing paintings of them
dire plinth
Objects*
dire plinth
100 portrait study?
karmic stream
but look at how dark the shadow is on the nose next to the highlight
yours doesnt need that level of it but it needs more to inform the shape
theres number 4
im up to 5 now lol well I am on the 5th
karmic stream
lol totally off topic
dire plinth
Thanks julian, I will come back once I try the shading. :D man, you made me wanna jump out if my bed and start drawing at 3am, no kidding XD
karmic stream
later
dire plinth
Oh, btw, just wanted to ask, do you have a place where I can see your artwork? Like a deviant art, or something?
remote lynx
if no one got the hint that's alright. I'll just have to try harder come next art contest
dire plinth
That is good, I assume the foxhole stuff is confidential? :o
karmic stream
yeah but I am lazy and don't update anything like deviant art anymore lol
dire plinth
So you got more artworks for vehicles than the ones you normally find of I google it, right?
karmic stream
@remote lynx Ill have to reread it tomorrow at work it went over my head the first time
dire plinth
For example, the warden tank had 4 variations
karmic stream
yeah you can find all the foxhole art we have shown online
karmic stream
yeah. or google like foxhole light tank and youll find it
remote lynx
@karmic stream It wasn't obvious, I can tell you that.
feel free to ping me if you can't find it
or maybe it is obvious, I never did any testing
karmic stream
will do! and keep drawing and making art.
dire plinth
Oh, yeah, I found it.
Damn, how can you do them so clean? :o
Don't tell me you cut.
dire plinth
Okay, that is what I assumed. Hmm, yeah, makes sense XD
You gave me something to play with, as always :)
karmic stream
good luck
@remote lynx Every artist goes through tough patches where they can't see the other side or getting better at art. I know you said your not enjoying the process or the cycle as you work but you will have major breakthroughs as you learn. Focus on improvements in your own art and don't compare yourself to 'the internet'. It bothered me for a long time too but you succeed with hard work and hours. You can take breaks and come back to it later. I actually study 3d modeling for a year and worked as a 3D modeler till I didn't like it anymore and focused on 2D art. But I could totally go back to 3D at some point. If your frustrated with 2D art go and write then come back to it when you want.
remote lynx
don't compare yourself to 'the internet'.
I never compare myself with the internet. I always compare myself with me. I compare the piece on the paper with what it's supposed to be.
dire plinth
And it never works out like you planned.
remote lynx
The only time I actually enjoy drawing nowadays is if I simply doodle with no picture in mind whatsoever
remote lynx
and thus most of the time I won't enjoy making it
dire plinth
You remember what you said about guitar?
It is still fun even if you don't know hos to play it.
karmic stream
compare your work to the pervious work you have done.
remote lynx
even there it would be worse tho
dire plinth
I mean, art is fun regardless. Be it drawing or writing, do what Julian said. Be better than you were with your last attempt. At anything in life, in fact.
remote lynx
You remember what you said about guitar?
It is still fun even if you don't know hos to play it.
That's because it's easy to make a melody, hard to make a song. Low floor, high ceiling.
karmic stream
sometimes it is but thats how you improve see where you went wrong for the next image you are going to make
dire plinth
Why worse?
remote lynx
Because a piece I spend 30 minutes on will always be worse than the piece I made 4 years ago that I spent 2 hours on.
dire plinth
Like if you cannot draw straight line draw 5 and try to do a more straighter one that the last one
cerulean anvil
Multiple lines gang assemble.
dire plinth
In time, we shoudl be talking about breaks of an hour 2, a day at max. Draw today, try tomorrow again. Not 2 years
karmic stream
Most lifedrawing lesson classes start with warming up by filling pages with random lines
just to practice!
dire plinth
See ya, wolf
karmic stream
later
dire plinth
Julian, were you the one who played with Terran's drawing?
karmic stream
painted over it yes
dire plinth
Or, might have been somebody else... who made the comic book style out of a drawing of terran marine
Ah, okay
karmic stream
yeah I coloured someone elses for fun
dire plinth
Yeah, so, when you got time and you see it fun, wanna try on those colonial warhammer soldiers I made? I am curious how would they look like. I promise I will colour them too and show you. :D
So that it won't be just you working or something, more like a fun comparison. It would be a good excercise for me too to see your approach on my own artwork and it helps me improve, right?
karmic stream
post them again
karmic stream
sure, can't right now but ill do it at somepoint for fun
dire plinth
Okay, I can't draw anymore too, I think I will go to sleep, but whenever you want.
Thanks a lot for the talk and see ya later.
willow rapids
Is This?
olive cove
Aw I missed all this art talk 
brazen grove
you want to be part of the counseling group too?
olive cove
I love talking art and techniques, etc
Not the best at explaining my thought processes when it comes to drawing, but I still like talking about it
buoyant crest
Talking art is fun!
I got a little visual arts group together on the uni and we draw sometimes together and challenge each other and then discuss the process we had in those 15 minute inks
dire plinth
@olive cove we can have one too :D
pulsar grail
So just to stir this place a bit up: what do you rather see in an artist? Great skill/technique or great idea/concept? (Iknow these aren't mutually exclusive but just for the sake of agrument let's say they are)
left wind
Is it even allowed to say both?
pulsar grail
Well, if we're discussing preference for one over the other; no
left wind
I'd go with great idea/concept
pulsar grail
Forgot to answer my own question :). But yeah I'm a bigger fan of people that come up with great ideas than seeing a beautiful piece of art
dire plinth
@pulsar grail an artist shouldn't be seen from outside, rather, it should be seen from inside. You consider yourself artist, not other people. Most cases, an artist is a person that works in the art field od studies in the art field. An artist, though, means a person who values and creates art. Art can be understood as an enhancement of reality. Music means to take sounds and put them together in a piece that pleases and serves the sole purpose of entertainment. It is the abstract, not the logic domain. Another example is sculpting. You are not able to paint the eyes, so you make small holes to give the illusion of depth inside the pupils. That somehow also gives the illusion the statue follows you, as lighf get's inside the small holes from different angles. Now, through art, we discover ourselves. How? Simple: we all see art diferently. That tells something about us. Everything can be called art as long as it offers excitement, passion, love, hate, in a word, emotion. Symbolism in poetry does not use the mask of heroism and love or patriotic beliefs that romantism was revolving around. Instead, it exaggerates the crude, harsh reality we all live in through symbols with philosophic meanings. Makes us hate it, not love it, though, that hate tells something about us too. What do you think?
left wind
jesus that's an essay
pulsar grail
@dire plinth Ooof, that's a long read and a lot to think about, let me get back to that in a bit
pulsar grail
In short what I mean: I rather see a stickfigure in an interesting pose than a lifelike portrait of somebody in a "meh pose"
I know I'm simplifying things here but I hope poeple get what I mean
dire plinth
That also tells me something about you
pulsar grail
I know 🙂
dire plinth
Now, yes, originality, dynamism, etc. are more appreciated than static lifeless figures no matter the approach or style you do
An art piece should have techniques to tell a story, to be entertaining.
I see modernism and post modernism in all art types as best examples
They are ugly. Horrible.
But they tell a philosophic story behind them that is much more fascinating than realism
A portrait should tell a story too. If you cannot make a story out of stickmens, then you cannpt expect to make a lively portrait
So, I agree here it is about being interesting, as I said above, to give me emotions, not to look at a photo of my neighbour walking the dog.
That can also be interesting if you know to make it. But if you jsut copy the picture on a canvas... it will be just my neighbour walking the dog
pulsar grail
Exactly my point
That you can replicate something brilliantly in terms of technique doesn't make it necessarily interesting to me. Sure, I'll admire the skill but it won't "speak" to me
high ledge
hey guys, to decide a conflict zone in a project im doing
i need some votes
Vote Blue, Green, or Brown for me if you would like to help
pulsar grail
@high ledge I'm not sure what you're asking right now. But with very limited info I'd say conflict will arise where the "L" shaped lake is close to the sea, and that's assuming there is a channel or somthing like that connecting the sea with the lake
pulsar grail
Crap, my brain needs more info! 😄
olive cove
For me idk it's kind of both in terms of skills and concept, mostly concept, but the quality of the work depending on what it is matters to me because it can sometimes take you out if the work
pulsar grail
@high ledge With no further info, I'd say brown
olive cove
For example this piece from Mike Franchina, without the care and self awareness in terms of designing and the skill he has I don't think the piece would look as great or carry the same meaning/convey the world he's building in it
But since I can see the details, etc I can see the religious and world war influences and piece together better what this world is like
pulsar grail
@olive cove That's why I made it a false dichotomy :). But seriously, with way less skill I think the image would still kinda say the saem thing. Not as loudly sure. But still
Concept: Large guy with large gun protecting a "priest" like figure
olive cove
Yeah don't get me wrong you can still say the same thing with less skill, but since he's a skilled artist it really makes it a much more interesting image
pulsar grail
I wholeheartedly agree. But there's a reason I wanted a one or the other answer
Mainly because a lot of the discussions here seem geared towards the "skill" and not so much the story/idea
olive cove
I'm also kind of an indecisive person sometimes when it comes to art as well 
I do really like the concepts people can come up with though
pulsar grail
And I do think sometimes the great ideas/concepts get forgotten because people think they lack the skill to make it beautifull
Which is exactly my point. Some ideas are worth sharing even though the artwork itself might not be up to the artists own bar
olive cove
In my art classes there are people who are not as skilled as me, but damn do they have a crazy amount more of creativity than I do (tried to not sound cocky when saying that)
pulsar grail
Nah that's not cocky at all
I for one consider my "talent" more in the idea department than in the skill department
pulsar grail
@olive cove
high ledge
Last Priest Escorted From Island During Dead Harvest - October 2018, Colorized
buoyant crest
@high ledge asking us to make countries and then not using them smh
high ledge
Yeah I'm not using them
olive cove
@pulsar grail Haha, yeah you get the same idea
buoyant crest
You are a dick you know, Insanity?
olive cove
@pulsar grail also here is the description the artist made for that piece I shared earlier if you're interested
https://www.artstation.com/sirfrancisdrake and his artstation because the world he's created with his art is awesome to read about in each of the descriptions
dire plinth
@karmic stream I tried what you advised me to do with a higher contrast between the tip of the nose and the side planes. What do you think now?
karmic stream
the forms are much clearer now. it and the face have much more depth
if you want to push yourself further here is an old masters painting that is amazing. Look at the highlights on the face and where they are group together. Studies and attempts like this will really level up your facial painting
Analyze and break down old masters paintings. Try to figure out how they did it and get in their head.
karmic stream
@dire plinth
dire plinth
Hmm, @karmic stream I will get home and start, any master to study in your opinion?
buoyant crest
Vermeer, Dutch master known from his lighting techniques
karmic stream
john singer sargent
karmic stream
anders zorn
glad vale
@dire plinth nice artwork.
buoyant crest
@glad vale everybody can draw, it is just amount you think is required to be considered an artist
and frankly, that bar can be set very very low
glad vale
@buoyant crest I can’t, I put forth my efforts of learning towards video-editing and limited photo-shopping.
Learning art would be an extremely time-consuming process that would probably not provide any monetary benefit for me.
The time wasted would outweigh the benefit
But I mean if I could learn in 24 hours and be amazing, sure.
buoyant crest
@glad vale art isnt about "monetary benefit", it is about fun (and deep messagesing)! And fun should always be the highest priority!
Because, again, being amazing is not a requirement; many people hold very strict views about arts as some aproaching photorealism or certain styles, but in reality it is barely that. Art is not a thing, it is a reason, motivation, method
olive cove
Yeah who cares if you don't get paid for art, you can always find work that uses the skills you learn by improving at drawing, painting, etc. Graphic design is also a good path and concept art as well.
But if you see it as time wasted then idk what to say man, art is a good way a putting ideas together into something tangible as well and to just relax.
left wind
art can be relaxing, but that wasn't always the case
pulsar grail
I thought the whole idea of being an artist is to be paid in "exposure", right?
@olive cove Thanks for the link, that's some awesome work
olive cove
No problem, been following him for awhile and love his stuff
autumn leaf
Working on a emblem for a regiment im making, wanna see?
somber vapor
@autumn leaf what does O.K.C stand for?
autumn leaf
Owl Knights of Callahan
somber vapor
I’m glad we have the birds on our side
somber vapor
It looks good
autumn leaf
Thats the best cannon and sword ive made yet
half spear
@autumn leaf I like it
peak oyster
@autumn leaf what tag do they use?
autumn leaf
OKC
patent jetty
Idk the pink there looks kinda weird to me
autumn leaf
Its the pink i chose
rocky tiger
Effect!
left wind
Reworked on DeVitto, the turret took me a long-ass time to figure out
This is the older version
cosmic bough
Looks better, good job
buoyant crest
Nice job, gets closer to the legendary AW style @left wind
left wind
Ye ye
left wind
In addition to that, I fixed the biplane, now it looks more rounds and less boxy
karmic stream
love it!
left wind
Glad ya like it
buoyant crest
My hands start itching now, but I have important stuff to do 😦
dire plinth
@karmic stream what is your opinion on multiple layers in general, from using them to get an effect, to use them in illustration? All your thoughts, an open discussion. @olive cove pinged you so you won't miss the discussion this time :D
I saw artists that use layers a lot and artists that use just the principle of layers: adding colours (especially in environment art) on top of eachother, for grass for eg, starting from dark colours, up to light colours, but on the same layer. Now, I saw artists that say layers are rewarding and artists that say they need a lot to master, so they are not beginner friendly to work with, also artists that declared they are too complicated and you can mess up with them and they prefer single layer. Also, all of them were good artists with lovely artworks. From japanese chibi to the most complex concept arts or illustrations.
Changed a bit here and there to be easier to read what I said.
karmic stream
Lots of layers is fine I use tones of them. Many artist say use the tools that the technology gives you. Learn everything or as much as you can about photoshop or X painter program then choose tools that are right for you.
dire plinth
I see, so it's a matter of comfort, more than professionalism.
karmic stream
To again, level up in digital art. Don't abide by some forum or argument of is it right to use layers in PS. learn it. All professionals use layers. Your 'style' will dictate how you make art but learn more so you can confidently choose what you want.
dire plinth
Yeah, I understand, makes sense, I mean, 40 layers are hard to work with, but CTRL + click helps you to select them so it is not that hard at all.
olive cove
Yeah I use a ton of layers as well
karmic stream
How you get to a final piece of art is your choice. People will see and judge the final art and not care how you got there... unless you plagiarize... but thats a different topic.
left wind
layers are fun
dire plinth
Yeah, what do you consider to be called plagiate?
What is the limit of "cheating"? I did saw a fun comment the other day
karmic stream
Clearly copying someone else art and using it to advertise yourself or make money.
dire plinth
You use grass brush tools, that is cheating. I omly do grass by pen on my own. Laughed so hard, why would you give you a pain if Photoshop gives you a hand on that?
olive cove
Yeah if it's a direct copy and you're taking credit for it and saying it's your own then that's bad
dire plinth
Yeah, I know, that was the comment
karmic stream
we can all go to an art store and buy the same paintbrushes but saying someoneelse work is your own. or clearly copying it and changing it a little.
olive cove
Like I'm working on this right now, but the general look at the character as far as the head goes isn't completely original. I'll post the version with the original head
dire plinth
So I assume even using references can go too far? Afaik, a reference is by it's definition, well, a reference. I can take your tanks and add to them so long I am not tracing them and stuff like that. I also have to give you credit. But that is something else.
olive cove
The head in this ^ is done by another artist
I photobashed this for a D&D character and then I decided I wanted to actually make my own artwork of her so I started on the first one I posted
dire plinth
Yeah, but also those colonial space marine and sisters were made out of any warhammer reference I could get. They had to be accurate after all.
Plus foxhole artwork
olive cove
I don't know if I'd consider it plagiarizing, but I am using it as reference
karmic stream
studying someone's artwork to learn is ok. But if you then post it online as yours and not state its practice and give credit to the original. Then thats Bad.
olive cove
^
I probably am going to go back and change it a bit, since I'd rather not have to deal with any accusations if I posted it online
karmic stream
Lercas using that art he did for his own DnD is fine but its pretty close if he tires to sell it.
olive cove
Yeah I don't plan on doing that
dire plinth
Yeah, makes sense. I mean we are talking in my drawing abput 20 different photos with elements. In the end the result was different than anything on the internet. But I couldn't make a sister or a space marine without references, out of my head.
karmic stream
I figured you didn't but change up the hair a bit. the hair looks too close
dire plinth
So long as it doesn't look like, it's fine, I understand?
olive cove
Yeah I definitely gotta go ahead and do that
dire plinth
They do look pretty close
karmic stream
but since its personal art for him its fine
dire plinth
But it feels like it's your own and not tracing
olive cove
I need to find the actual actual original too because the second image isn't even the real original
dire plinth
Lol, that makes stuff intriguing to the bone XD
olive cove
Yeah I didn't trace it, tried my best to sort of replicate the hair, but I'll have to actually dial it back if I did decide to post it
Since it's too close lol
dire plinth
Hey, julian, do you have mech drawings? I am curious how you make them. I tried to do a lot of mechs
karmic stream
Heres a Anders Zron painting (this is the original) I chose to do a acrylic study of.
dire plinth
Here is one attempt
dire plinth
karmic stream
I would not use that to advertise my self in a portfolio
dire plinth
But to use in a portfolio ian't that bad at all. Your approach on another artist's painting, isn't that fair?
Ofc, with credit gjven
karmic stream
IF you point out its a study you can do it. But it really doesn't prove anything about you other then you can copy.
if you are applying for a job you are better focusing on art for the job you are looking for. You won't get hired to do studies
the payoff for studies will be better original artwork
if you are not looking for work but are just posting art online then a section of studies is fine with credit given.
dire plinth
Hmm, okay, I understand.
olive cove
Yeah that's understandable
dire plinth
But you can have an website in which you have that as a portfolio, right?
No, wait
You can have a website in whcih you have a place for studies and still use it as a portfolio*
olive cove
Also I found the original original image I was talking about that I just wanna share for comparing the 3 before we move on completely
dire plinth
This one, lercas, looks closer to yours
Though the eyes, they are staring towards you in your image
These are not
karmic stream
are all 3 different artist? including you XD
dire plinth
Oh, my bad, the opposite direction, not yours
olive cove
Well the second one was the original edited by me
dire plinth
Ooh
olive cove
I added the sci-fi outfit and the smirk and stuff
dire plinth
I guess we though the original is the 3rd one you shown and you used as reference the second one facepalm okay, my bad
olive cove
Yeah
karmic stream
Yes you can make a website and include a section of studies. It will communiicate to people the hard work you put into your hobby/ job/ art making effort. But it wok communicate your intentions for your own art or to a possible employee what you're art looks like.
AH got it lercas
dire plinth
So both were made by you, and you used thd 3rd one as reference. Eyes and hair are too close, imo
olive cove
I actually don't think I've ever done any real studies with other pieces of art, at least none that I can think of
dire plinth
Now, julian, that is what I needed. To have my own work but the study section is optional in a portfolio, right?
olive cove
Should probably get into the habit of trying it every now and then
dire plinth
But do you have anatomy studies and real life work or you did self-taught everything like me?
Idk to call it in english, in romanian it is static, dynamic and organic nature (:
karmic stream
Yeah the hair is to close IMO from the original. The shapes are all the same. The hair cut can be the same but make all the shapes in the hair different.
olive cove
Thanks, I'll have to fix that when I get home
dire plinth
also, you have girl DnD characters? 😏
karmic stream
I have done lots of life drawing studies. In fact I am filling up a sketchbooks with skull and head studies now
olive cove
She is my first girl character in my time playing DnD @dire plinth
Anatomy is s thing I need to work on as well
dire plinth
Yeah, I have started so late, but I am working a lot on sketchbooks on planes of the body. To see shapes and planes when lighting. I am still a novice, but working hard. :D
karmic stream
Anatomy studies is a life long thing for all artist. Its like 'going to the gym' but for art lol
dire plinth
Well lercas, my primary character in fozhold is a woman, after the man called harvester so, I can't blame you :/
karmic stream
There is no such thing as started late cause art is not a race.
dire plinth
Yeah, that is a very well made description
olive cove
I do basic shapes when making poses etc and usually my characters are fully clothed so I haven't payed much attention to the musculature of people when I draw them
karmic stream
then your next challenge is more anatomy lercas XD
dire plinth
Should we do art meetings, julian, like the friday meetings that caspar does? Would be fun, right? I guess time is the only problem here :/
olive cove
Yep seems so lol
karmic stream
Sure! but you'll have to remind me I have a lot of foxhole art work to do XD
dire plinth
Lercas, you can try internet photos as references. Julian gave me a great tip, to study a lot, to try once to reproduce an image, see where you went wrong, keep in mind for the next one. Julian, show him those 100 portraits challenge
That thing seems so fun. So sad I don't have a person to do that with :/
olive cove
Yeah whenever I draw anatomy in my art I usually search up quick references off of Google
dire plinth
Lercas, wanna do 100 portraits or body challenge, pose, anything? XD
olive cove
Like in these
karmic stream
Adam and I have a rule for our 100 portrait challenge.. there are no rules XD, no time limit, no guides or styles. Do whatever you want just do 100.
nice!
olive cove
I'm down for a 100 something challenge
dire plinth
Well, anatomy is a good thing to practice. If you have a good eye, you can always take bits and never do anatomy. Just understand principles. Is it good? No. Is it bad? Nope. It is you who decide what you wanna do.
olive cove
That is the extent of my Inktober I'm still doing them, like I just finished my 4th one which I'm just doing small details on now
karmic stream
Adam and I are we are doing portraits at work (photos from wherever) No rules no pressure.
dire plinth
Yeah
Doesn't have to be a huge pressure
It has to be relaxing
@karmic stream since we are not decided, I will let you pick what you think it'd be a good 100 challenge fod me and lercas, since you saw our art overall already. :D
We will*
Oh, lercas, how about 100 characters?
olive cove
I'm down
olive cove
I have trouble with hands and feet more so feet than hands though
karmic stream
air planes or planes and shapes?
olive cove
Perspective is also tricky
karmic stream
yeah lercas do 100 hands and feet. you'l feel way more confident after. As you go study and fined ref.
DO like 10 from ref and do 10 out of your head. Go Back and forth and be observant of when you get 'lost/challenged'. Then see how other artist solve those same problems.
After all of them the next character you draw you'll notice you naturally struggle less and think less when drawing hands and feet.
olive cove
Gotcha, now I got two things to keep me busy while I'm on break between my classes here at uni
The first being finishing my Inktober drawings
karmic stream
no pressure, no time limit
dire plinth
On hands and feets I have a small but a bit better understanding. Idk I naturally feel where a finger should be. I do mistakes, but I don't struggle a lot, so it would be awesome to shos eachother hat we did, right, @olive cove ?
rancid carbon
No pressure
Im over here just sweating thinking about anatomy.
dire plinth
Might be a design decision
buoyant crest
h
dire plinth
But I would have definitely made everything a little bit bigger. I know they are sprites, tho.
left wind
I was gonna go make the darned gunboats
dire plinth
Though, good colour palette, I love it
left wind
Thanks, thanks
buoyant crest
@left wind do it fool
dire plinth
@karmic stream what about me? :(
buoyant crest
let the best gunboat win
left wind
As for the size of those sprites, that's... How ya do it actually, AW style's supposed to be miniature
or whatever's the term
dire plinth
I am not seeking for proportion, but the person is just not fitting in the bus for example, as a driver, ofc. I don't mind the rest. The sprites are definitely well made
You can start another project with bigger sprites, why not?
This one is good as it is.
Oh, the bus is almost as big as the luv and the tank, differences are too small. It makes it look like the same thing, that'd be abetter explanation. @left wind
olive cove
olive cove
Really late with Inktober, but here's day 4, I'm gonna slowly work on the rest. I tried making the signs of frostbite on some of the characters with blisters/boils and the dead/black portions of skin on smaller limbs, etc
left wind
noish
covert salmon
🤔🤔🤔
🤔🤔🤔
Y’all prolly know where this is going
Meme planes aside, I’m looking at doing some form of a modified Northrop YC-125 for a collie transport, thoughts?
dire plinth
So here is the end result. When I wake up I will expand to the left so it won't look like I cropped in the wrong place (which I actually did)
pulsar grail
@autumn leaf What software are you using for those crests?
umbral topaz
so, here is the finished car, kind of a weird design, but expected taking into account that the studebaker stalite was a pretty weird car.
still, very happy witht the final result, i will publish it on lego ideas later today, but before that i need to find a name for it and write the description
pulsar grail
@umbral topaz Ooooo, I like it
left wind
Zurchin mobile?
autumn leaf
@pulsar grail Sketch App
left wind
Oh yeah It's all comin' together
patent jetty
@autumn leaf honestly the trans flag colours look kinda weird there
left wind
Trans
Wait-
autumn leaf
@patent jetty you look weird
pulsar grail
@autumn leaf Hhhm not familiar with it. Anyway, what I wanted to say: the crossed swords aren't centered:
patent jetty
@autumn leaf no us
autumn leaf
@pulsar grail yeah i saw that but it wouldnt let me move both of them
pulsar grail
So no clue if that's an easy fix (but it should be in any
Crap, hit enter too early
autumn leaf
@pulsar grail ill see if i can but i dont think so
pulsar grail
Well, it's on a solid color so you can just cut out both the swords with background, move it to the left and fill the remaining space
Or paint over it, whatever works
buoyant crest
@left wind full sized unit? Nice
dire plinth
@autumn leaf up there... isn't it supposed to be Armored? :D
autumn leaf
Reasons
dire plinth
In fact, wait, nvm that, more like why for the whole regiment?
Wanna make your clan or something?
autumn leaf
Working on one yeah
dire plinth
Oh, okay, I see, good luck :D
left wind
Just need to give it the water ripple and all that, but other than that - it's done
peak oyster
Can y'all DM me with vehicle combos and modifications I can fuck with making when I get home?
left wind
Hatchet x DeVitto plox
peak oyster
Current list is motorbike w/naval cannon, hatchevitt, and katyusha mod of trucks
peak oyster
@karmic stream I heard you have wanted katyushesque vehicles in foxhole
left wind
did somebody say katyusha
peak oyster
@karmic stream and the colonial variant too
karmic stream
very cool!
left wind
alright its time for me to make rocket artillery sprites
since the rocket hype's up n' running once more
karmic stream
peak rover
Nice
peak oyster
SOmeone made me make this
karmic stream
or a rocket arty that shoots gunboats? XD
left wind
or a rocketboat
karmic stream
all good answers
left wind
rocketboat jousting it is
peak oyster
for the record, the mount on the rocket truck I made is taken directly from the bigass static howitzers that you find in the fields that you cant use
quartz forge
just add a 40mm gyroget grenade assault rifle
peak oyster
also @left wind how do you want the LTs to be combined?
left wind
Hatchet body with DeVitto's turret
and the other way around
actually wait
yeah Havitto sounds better
body + turret
left wind
ye lole
void cypress
I hate it
left wind
my turn now
shrewd oriole
this looks wierd @peak oyster
gloomy lodge
That is heresy right there
left wind
how it feels to chew 5 gum
peak oyster
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/642433477329027123/642470303997493266/unknown.png?width=887&height=499 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/642433477329027123/642470357743173642/unknown.png?width=887&height=499 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/642433477329027123/642470172770304030/unknown.png?width=887&height=499 Infantry propelled anti tank rocket launcher
also requested by @karmic stream
left wind
some old AT rifle that I decided to refurbish
peak rover
@peak oyster that light tank swap was interesting
half spear
@peak oyster can you make a AT gun with the FA?
peak oyster
I could
peak rover
@peak oyster could you make a warden bike with saddle bags and no sidecar
peak oyster
@half spear
faint egret
peak oyster
@peak rover they arent the best saddlebags, but here you go
somber vapor
I like it
peak oyster
I'll do 1 more before I go and do other stuff, so whoever says something first gets it
blissful heath
do a motorcycle with stormrifle on the sidecar
blissful heath
now add it to the game
peak oyster
I wish
peak rover
I BLOODY love it @peak oyster That awsome
that is my baby
could you use the warden backpack models as the bags?
peak rover
Yea that looks great
peak oyster
okay, nice
peak rover
thats the kinda stuff we need ingame
peak oyster
I'm not a Dev sadly
blissful heath
inb4 panzer4 joins clapfoot
peak rover
Are you able to colour them?
peak oyster
I could, but I'd have to fight blender to get em properly textured and thats lowkey tiring
peak oyster
and also I lowkey have ptsd from fighting the playermodels
rocky tiger
Big project
pallid tangle
lookin goood
Make them soldiers bend down a bit more, afaik to avoid the risk of being shot in the head, sort of like the dudes from the foxhole splash art
rocky tiger
ohh copy that
left wind
Took me little to no time to make this, damn
high ledge
Lil doodle I made at school
arctic lark
You’re incredible Jesus
left wind
royal north macedon navy
buoyant crest
@left wind extreme lighting, but works well for some reason
left wind
magic
gloomy lodge
Getting Jutland vibes right now
left wind
guess that azure alchemy gave you those vibes
left wind
very well then
gloomy lodge
Look at those lines
high ledge
When the Germans go straight into the Brits and get double fucked thinking they will break the British lines
-100iq
rocky tiger
peak rover
get someone with an RPG in the back
left wind
Aaand it's finished at last
patent jetty
@olive cove lecars your inktober submissions are creeping the holy fuck out of me
peak oyster
Isn't that kinda the point
olive cove
Thanks @patent jetty like Panzer said that was the theme I was going for lol
left wind
if its october, it hasta be spooky
peak rover
@left wind it's November
left wind
then no spooks
peak rover
also panzer The bike is so FUCKING Epic
patent jetty
oh did I forget to say that I absolutely love them too
@olive cove draw more
oh fok I forgot
spooktober is over
noooo
olive cove
@patent jetty I'm still gonna do them because I never finished
patent jetty
👌 ebic
rancid carbon
cool
blissful heath
The one thing that people misunderstand about warden vehicle design is that it's not just curvy, almost every curve in a Warden vehicle conforms to a circle
so a plane that has less graceful but more circular curves, such as the Macchi C.202, fits better
my bad, the Macchi C.200
pallid tangle
hmpf
covert salmon
Double correction: Fiat G.50
Tbh tho, I’m more following designs based around sleekness and the inverted interwar engines
Also, circles are not as good for aircraft design as you think. Sure, radials are round, but they don’t fit the warden period aesthetic imo
But, if you want circle pedantism, then I got you covered
Congrats, I am going to make this
blissful heath
Don't forget that there already is a warden plane in-game
i'm not entirely pulling this out of my ass and basing my conclusions off of what tanks and armoured cars look like
covert salmon
I know, and I’m separating myself from the design. I’m taking design influences from the French and throwing in technological shenanigans to spice up the design
The French used radials, upright inlines, and inverted inlines
blissful heath
but shouldn't you stick to the design?
It's like making something that doesn't fit with the Devitt
that and it fits with the circular curve design philosophy as I stated before
covert salmon
Here my gripe with the design, it doesn’t look like it can fill roles of attacker or trainer
Or bomber
Plus, I’m taking this from a historical perspective , the French used lots of different designs at the start of WWII
blissful heath
it could be recon, or courier
covert salmon
150ish in total
blissful heath
and remember that the wardens aren't just 'french'
covert salmon
True, that’s why I threw in German and Czech designs
blissful heath
what's stopping the plane in-game from doing it's roles?
covert salmon
Nothing, I don’t intend to get any of these added tbh. I’m spitballing fan designs I’ve spent time researching
The French used the inverted inline
blissful heath
the problem is I think you've gone for too sleek of a style
Both factions should be rugged, but in different ways
Wardens would be rugged because of circular curves
and colonials would be rugged for ease of manufacture and mass production
so more boxy and rigid, sorta like the Bf-109
covert salmon
Alright, if you look at community highlights 76, you can find my old works there and feel free to critique them
The designs I do are indeed sleek, but that is because I ground them heavily in reality
blissful heath
Rightio, but do keep in mind I don't want to be an arse
I just want to keep the style consistent
you can still have non-sleek planes be realistic
covert salmon
And I don’t think the warden empire had the engine tech to pull that off
blissful heath
just think of the grumman, or the macchi c.200
what makes you say that about their engines?
covert salmon
Tbh, never struck me that way
Like for example, the C.200 has a shit engine
And we are comparing it to the warden aircraft we see in game
blissful heath
That's fair, but it could be a more powerful engine designed to take a more rugged aircraft up into the skies
covert salmon
Hell, Italian aircraft engines were so bad, I’m pretty sure they are what made Enzo Ferrari so focused on engines over aerodynamics
blissful heath
I imagine with FMGs being seen as less and less useful on the ground many would become AA emplacements
and aircraft would do better off with more armour to take just a few more hits than other earlier craft
hence rugged designs on both factions
that and ruggedness seems to fit in more with both what we've already seen and what makes sense within the Foxhole universe
I imagine that some Warden craft would be sleek, but these would mostly be repurposed racers from before the war like the He.100
sorta like how the Devitt used to be a work of art, so would planes
but the FMG would facilitate a requirement for stronger planes
covert salmon
I can see that. Part of what I’ve done as well is that I’ve referred to my aircraft as Caovair designs rather than just as Warden Empire State built designs
To a degree, yes, but I’ve never seen them as being on par with most 20mms in terms of damage
blissful heath
I think of them more as .50cals
which were not nice if you were a german fighter trying to take on a bomber
covert salmon
I’ve casually mounted single fmgs in some of my older designers
Tbh, I see then like the kraut 15mms
Yeah, .50s were nasty af
blissful heath
.50cals are 13mm, and the FMG is 14.5
so I imagine they're rather potent
enough to give aircraft two options
one, get more armour and bulk up
or two, fly higher and avoid the worst of the damage
both of which need more powerful engines
a lack of a powerful engine would be the death of the air force of either Caoiva or Veli-Mesea
covert salmon
The other thing imma point to stylistically is that the collies have as many slab-fronted machines as the wardens
blissful heath
you mean a lack of angled armour?
covert salmon
Yeah
blissful heath
hmmm
covert salmon
Uncurved at the front
blissful heath
Oh yeah, that's why I like bulkier radial designs
since they don't taper down into a nose
blissful heath
if I could differentiate them still I'd give the Colonials radials as well
covert salmon
Technically, inlines don’t need to either, peep some of the spas designs
blissful heath
or perhaps they do taper off into a nose but have a large intake underneath
so they're still 'front-slabbed'
that would be easier to manufacture and fit an engine into
covert salmon
Inlines can produce as much HP as a radial
blissful heath
yeah, the only problem for a radial is wind resistance
parasitic drag if you will
but that's negligable
covert salmon
Tbh, the best way to pick one is based on balance
Yes
blissful heath
unless you're doing something like the Me 323
where you need every ounce of engine power and even then you need to be towerd
*towed
covert salmon
Like balance and spacing were big factors in choosing radial vs inline
Unless you were P&W, then in that case everyone wanted to design the aircraft around the engine lol
blissful heath
I imagine collies would have an inline, and keep a rather narrow but predictable and unchanging fuselage
it rarely curves, as that would make it harder to manufacture
so making it a radial would make it use a lot more materials, and making it taper off at the nose would be hard to mass-replicate
so keeping it the same 'shape' along the fuselage (aside from the tail perhaps) would make sense
covert salmon
Tbh, I could see them using an ungainly hybrid of an Me 109X combined with a YAK-1
blissful heath
Yeah, that would work
covert salmon
Another thing about engines is hat they aren’t always available
blissful heath
oh of course
covert salmon
Think of the Me 410 and Fw 190C dilemma
Where a 190 with the performance of the 190D came out a year earlier but couldn’t enter production due to d gives veg good allocated for the Me 410
Can we continue this discussion later? I must leave as my phone is slowly dying and I want some spare charge in case of an emergency
blissful heath
Yeah, that's alright
Nice to finally talk with someone who isn't set in their ways, but I guess this isn't political lol
covert salmon
Thank you
blissful heath
I only feel strongly about this because I want to accept your designs as head canon
pallid tangle
this was veey interesting
covert salmon
Oh shit, thank you
blissful heath
so if they're truer to Warden design philosophy I'll do it quicker than if they didn't
covert salmon
Alright
blissful heath
that and it sets a precedent for others who want to design
but yeah, talk to you later
covert salmon
Ttyl
left wind
Just gonna throw this 'ere
rocky tiger
pulsar grail
@rocky tiger The characters feel a bit together. Maybe change their grey tone a bit so they stand out against eachother?
willow remnant
different types of grey
if that can help in any ways...
a unifinished project
peak oyster
@covert salmon wardens canonically use radial engines in their planes
buoyant crest
@rocky tiger try using clipping masks to give them seperate grays!
masks are amazing
buoyant crest
clipping masks! come on!
rocky tiger
what is clipping masks my english level is very low
remote lynx
ooh, that thing
kinda like a negative layer
@buoyant crest I mean, with me they're all a seperate layer
buoyant crest
@rocky tiger A clipping mask allows you to dynamically cut out a part of a picture
buoyant crest
here is an example with photoshop
https://youtu.be/SoKyP_vFsRI?t=66 @rocky tiger
to about from 1 to 2:30
rocky tiger
ohhhhh i got it
covert salmon
@peak oyster , lore in game to back that up besides the single type of plane?
Bc nobody used just radials
I legit cannot think of a single nation that used radials exclusively. US used both inlines and radials, so did Great Britain, Germany, even Italy and Japan. Yes, Japan didn’t have any homegrown inlines but they wanted to use them enough that they got a license.
Hell, Japan used three different kinds of inlines, the Ha-9, Ha-40, and Ha-47. That doesn’t include all the Hiro inlines
left wind
Done
buoyant crest
shrexy
peak rover
NOW MOUNT A TANK Cannon on it
remote lynx
@peak rover pls
quartz forge
thats cute
remote lynx
Having a self-propelled howitzer would actually make it worth using
atm people just spam build 3 new howitzers every 50 meters
Can't do a rolling barrage when the howitzers can't keep pace with the attacking force
I like the howitzer because of the two artillery guns, it's the only one that you can indiscriminately flatten a whole area with.
remote lynx
At that point why not just use rockets instead ))))
Just raze an entire area with them
left wind
Speaking of which, I forgot I was gonna go make rocket artillery variants of Foxhole trucks
It's go time.
remote lynx
T27E2 I want specifically
24 rockets
rl they could only fire sideways, and I'd want to keep that, but a Foxhole version imo would need some traverse as well as a range of elevation.
Perhaps make it even greater range like 60-125 or 60-150 in exchange for bad accuracy
Though rockets would pose a challenge as the devs can't apply hitscan to them as they do with FA and howitzer
left wind
Here are your 24 rockets you wanted @remote lynx
remote lynx
👀
not a lot of picture of the T27, so here's a model
oh right, this picture exists
left wind
Serves for a perfect Collie RA
remote lynx
It would be a true barrage weapon, saturating a far off target area with high explosives instead of trying to snipe a building with FA or a group of infantry with howitzer
Hell, I'd take a 25m range increase for godawful accuracy. I just want to make the enemy fear for their lives as rockets come down around them.
left wind
slaps table Here!
remote lynx
I mean, I expected that
left wind
idk if that would work on devitto
peak oyster
Devitto has a wide enough hull for it
Maybe on the ST though?
Whats stopping you from putting it on the APC actually @left wind
left wind
I still haven't made the APC yet
I could just put it on the truck, buuuuuuut idk about that
peak oyster
What about the stuka zu fuss rockets on the HT?
peak oyster
Also if you want/need I can give you different views of my katyusha 3d models
peak oyster
Aight
left wind
except of course the half-tracks oh good lord am I gonna spas the fuck out
high ledge
i think i tried to make a racketen panzer once for the wardens
autumn leaf
I thinks its a dumb idea. Id rather have racks mounted on a truck instead of slow big target that would soon be a rektdeten panzer after allies fighter bombers see it
A truck is easier to high and move than a tank
If its damaged it cost less to repair or replace. Germans would have that over engineered tank on jacks in a fortnight, having a repair crew of death shift to get it working again
Truck, engines damaged, tow it with another or if immobile blow it up, its a truck. Take the racks off first and install on another
high ledge
thats so, but theres also to concider, tanks can move up countryside and cross crountry far better than a truck can. here you can say a halftrack is best for the job, but a tank would still be far faster and more efficient at getting closer to enemy positions without being on the open road
blissful heath
artillery, while useful to be mobile, is not necessarily made or broken by it
the mobility is definitely outweighed by the cost
peak oyster
Also @stuck crown you said that the vehicles are 20% smaller than in game, do you mean that they're 125% the size of their counterparts irl, IE their current size is 100%, or do you mean that they're 120% bigger than irl, IE their current size is 120%
I know it makes litterally no difference in terms of scale, but I'm just curious
stuck crown
@peak oyster Vehicles are mostly 20% bigger than IRL, but most of the time we just make things fit our game without worrying
peak oyster
Nice
rancid carbon
@stuck crown sry for ping but does that apply to the sizes given in the vehicle data sheets as well or just the model sizes?
stuck crown
those sizes are scaled up already
peak oyster
@stuck crown does that include the armour thickness or caliber of guns?
rancid carbon
Interestinngggghghgggggh
blissful heath
I doubt the calibre and armour thickness are scaled up
or else you get armour less than 30mm
which is kinda iffy
left wind
i smell somethin' really iffy
rancid carbon
So the hatchet isnt actually the size of a sherman
and the BTs arent the size of a King tiger
I am pleased with this development
peak rover
I would say the BT are the size of a Tiger I
nocturne void
yeah
covert salmon
Prepare yourselves!
We got some He 119 grade technofuckery coming up
Also turbochargers, we gon have 4 turbochargers on this thing lmfao
brazen grove
those mlrs are nice
covert salmon
Not my work but I feel like everyone has to see this
peak oyster
Hey, taking requests to modify foxhole vehicles with stuff in 3D when I get home, first come first serve, DM me what you want me to do to what vehicle
peak oyster
So SR, for clarification?
rancid carbon
Possibly
peak oyster
Aight, when I get home I'll do that
rancid carbon
Ayy
analog pike
peak oyster
one thing I'd like to point out is that the APC is wierdly pretty from a low angle
rancid carbon
Kinda reminds me of the modern marine amtraks
gloomy lodge
I'm getting St Chamond vibes
rancid carbon
Nice
mellow cedar
That’d be so sick to put hmg attached at the top
peak oyster
Its an SR strapped onto it, actually
but I can strap a HMG onto it instead
HMG slapped on
@rancid carbon It is made
gloomy lodge
Beautiful
peak oyster
The Hatch on it is actually taken from the LT, just scaled up slightly
peak oyster
You want me to strap the gunshield of the FMG onto the front of this fuck
@rancid carbon Added a proper gunshield
Any other non-standard vehicles y'all want me to make? 50 mins left to ask for shit
verbal hare
that looks SICK
arctic lark
can you make an open top truck
like a warden truck but without the canvas on top and just benches on either side @peak oyster
peak oyster
aight
arctic lark
noice
gloomy lodge
APC LVT with a LT turret?
left wind
APC howi?
peak oyster
People transport truck
cosmic bough
Make Self proppeled Anti tank weapon buts its on APC Chassis (Like Marder I on Lorraine)
peak oyster
APC with LT turret
cosmic bough
A bit cursed yet beautiful
peak oyster
Artillery has arrived
left wind
okay now that's cursed
cosmic bough
Not what i ment this is more like Sturmpanzer I wihount the additional armor
And it is cursed (and i like it)
peak oyster
I mean without spending half an hour fucking with this thing, thats the best I can do
cosmic bough
Yeah i got it. I still like what your doing its fun to watch 😄
Hope your keeping a collection
peak oyster
Sadly not of everything, but I have begun saving these
left wind
Finally fuckin' doing it
peak oyster
BEHOLD, the boxed off AT APC
cosmic bough
Its perfect!!!
peak oyster
thats all for now folks
left wind
cool beans
left wind
Finally
high ledge
dont mind if i do
high ledge
how do you even make shapes in blender
peak oyster
Majiks
left wind
dedication
peak oyster
I mean I've only got 59 hours in blender
high ledge
got 3 and i dont get it at all
peak oyster
Just explore what everything does, and take it slowly to begin with
buoyant crest
just youtube a tutorial
peak oyster
Also an option
delicate gulch
AT apc is cursed
digital spade
i like the APC tank makes me feel like a evil genius
blissful heath
george washington famously crossed the delaware all right but he did it with cannon boats
and now we apply the same principle in our apc spg's
delicate gulch
yes
high ledge
Yes
left wind
Someone ordered the 40mm autocannon rocket of doom
peak oyster
Anyway when I get home soon does anyone want any specific modifications to any of the foxhole vehicles?
buoyant crest
@high ledge is that a "a horse, a horse! My kingdom for a horse!" reference
@peak oyster and tank, but plane
peak oyster
So ACs with an ATR, HMG and 20mm, jeep with HMG, mobile howitzer, uparmoured CV, ATHT, Frigate with Howitzer, heavy Barge thing, Tank but plane, trailer for trucks, RPG LUV
runic lodge
Hmm
rigid moth
14.5mm MG mounted on Flatbed
peak oyster
So ACs with an ATR, HMG and 20mm, jeep with HMG, mobile howitzer, uparmoured CV, ATHT, Frigate with Howitzer, heavy Barge thing, Tank but plane, trailer for trucks, RPG LUV, 40mm motorbike, FMG mounted on Flatbed
Already made direct fire fa
So ACs with an ATR, HMG and 20mm, jeep with HMG, mobile howitzer, uparmoured CV, ATHT, Frigate with Howitzer, heavy Barge thing, Tank but plane, trailer for trucks, RPG LUV, 40mm motorbike, FMG mounted on Flatbed, hatch on AC, unarmed AC
rigid moth
Harvester tank? You can grind at Buildings in the front
peak oyster
So ACs with an ATR, HMG and 20mm, jeep with HMG, mobile howitzer, uparmoured CV, ATHT, Frigate with Howitzer, heavy Barge thing, Tank but plane, trailer for trucks, RPG LUV, 40mm motorbike, FMG mounted on Flatbed, hatch on AC, unarmed AC, harvester tank, Turreted HT thing
peak oyster
I'm not going to make full new vehicles right now
Which is also why the Tankette isn't on the list
peak oyster
I'm going to make them, with the in game models, in blender
Also the order of that list is the order I'm going to do them in, so if I run out of time the later ones might not get done
dire plinth
Harvester tank :o?
runic lodge
They'll be like a suggestion for developers to be added or only for mods/other stuff
peak oyster
They've been used in that capacity a little, but they're more for fun/practice
runic lodge
Then make an half truck that will be more like this
rigid moth
@dire plinth YES GIB IT NOW
runic lodge
With a HMG ofc
rigid moth
@runic lodge wasn't this how HTs used to look like before they added faction specific models?
peak oyster
Kind of
runic lodge
Didn't see em
peak oyster
When I get home I can show the old ht
runic lodge
What about
dire plinth
Let me check, I think I can find it
runic lodge
You take a flatbed, add some armour plates on it, modify the back and put an automatic cannon there, or an actuall cannon