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haha!
Change you Can want to which one (sorry spam that)
XD
can confirm
COUGH this was a goddamn headache to assemble
mostly because i'm a lazy twat, yeah
lol
I should animate that but I'm also a lazy twat
The frames are pretty much done. It's just a matter of putting them on the file.
I can do it. I just know if I should.
Here's a shitty attempt.
i clicked on the channel just as you posted it
also i made 90% of all the animations i ever made in google slides.
I used Clip Studio in this instance.
@left wind Sorry if I didn't do enough justice.
oh why thank you
Something I'm working on. What do you guys think?
@high ledge excellent work
awesome
@rocky tiger At what stage is your light tank drawing?
That guy looks like he’s gonna try and shoot a target with an smg and miss him entirely at close range. But nice artwork.
i stop that work for now when i has more skill to draw i will continue that work
like other work
ok
Nothing personal kid. I just need those Bmats of yours...
when i want to create some cool military female
a lil' barbed wire
For Lil´ soldiers to get stuck in
ayeye
scrapped idea - shame though, was gonna put those wires to good use
i know, i know
I have 4 fully made videos of the exact same quality, that I just scrapped
i hadta scrap one of my worldbuilds because it was utter cringe, seriously
See, normal.
i guess
It’s like division there is a correct way in your head you just write in pencil till you find it @left wind
Might as well join for the fun. Sorry for the poor quality but my phone is basiclly gloryfied calculator. Also this is not supposed to be Colonial or Warden it was just an idea of an uniform i had. Hope you like it
Oh i forgot to add buttons. Oh well
looks noish
Don't worry @left wind, I went through 5 scripts in my radio drama before settling on the one I'm currently working with
scrapping things is just a part of the process
they call it trial and error, correct?
yeah, although unlike mathematics hopefully you're not just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks
ideally you throw something nice like pudding or cake instead
or spaghetti
pizza works too, epecially if the cheese is sticky
then again, i dont have all the material for whatever the hell i was tryna work on
tried to make a spruce tree, somehow managed to make a big turd spike with a leaf on it
that skeleton requirement of a cool anime girl requires a bit more thicc into her cuz she feels kinda thin.
its very good @faint egret ,
I really like the shading and just how the tears work on the characters face
@cosmic bough looks like tom nelson lmao
that mustache really speaks out
It need to drink soup
I was pinged?
am so ready for dead harvest
You are already dead
What
I mean Cool
i got a logo for the wardens for holloween
i cant spell the opposite of wardens...
colonial
finally
oh dam didnt realize that thxs XD
@cosmic bough fixed
and here it is
the colonials holloween flag
sorry, but the colonial one is just ugly
the color palette doesn't match
The Warden one is great though. It makes me want to abolish private property and seize the means of production
well its for holloween
and the sword and the green fought with me so yah
i didnt care for the colonial logo since its a pain to make
@icy bronze (And shoot your own people)
Surprisingly enough I still don't see the hammer and sickle in Hong Kong, only the American flags there.
Damn those freedom loving people, they should complain to their government, I'm sure they'll listen to them.
Oh wait...
Rough sketch idk why but I'm not too happy with it
Can't seem to get a feel for it idk think the proportion s are off
Guess every drawing can't be perfect lol
Practice makes perfect
@cosmic bough unintentional*
@faint egret I think its great! Keep up the great practice
Gas Mask !!!
the art work here is awesome
nice little guy
@trail night he cute very cute
spooopy
2 spoopy
i keep update


okay this one's not scrapped - thank god for that
still debatin' myself over what i should add to the scarecrow
riiight
I just love those two officers dueling it across the wire
Let's settle this like gentlemen!
Really late, but here's my Day 3 Inktober drawing
awesome
spooky
Thats pretty sweet @olive cove
spook intensifies
Thanks guys! 
saking
@olive cove That's a really cool piece, it was so much better when I realized the dark blades of grass behind them were not in fact grass.
collies shock trooper.
I hate you people.
Here's the less weebier version before anyone kills me for the post above.
Machine: Ho? You're approaching me?
but is there a more weeb version?
There is, look above the less weebier version.
Hell no.
Atleast give them Dios hair and JoJos hat
PTSD animu coming through
Nah fam we're fine
Memes apart, it looks beautiful!
I should draw again
So I had like an hour and started to draw something I had been thinking about for a while and this showed up 1 hour later
Warden medium tank “Zealot” mk. 9
@high ledge I'm confused
@fleet dagger It is a part of a comic thing I am doing.
Oh it kinda confused me a little bit looks good
so what was your inspiration for it?
The front picture looks like a French B1 BIS from ww2. Second picture looks sorta similar.
v nice
second looks like the side of a panther imo
Well the arl 44 was the hull I started with @nocturne void
oh
I used a German turret and just rounded the back
ok
And used some other foxhole design choices like the ladder on the side and the machine gun turret
ok
I wanted it to look like an upgraded devitt mk. 3 because that would be the next logical step the wardens would take. Also includes a track design suggesting that the flood would come soon after.
Here is the Devitt mk 3
@nocturne void
yeah i see what your talking about
I’m rescaling an old design I made for a colonial medium tank
I made it too wide
It would have been wider than a battle tank
ok
Thank you @high ledge
You know I have been resisting the urge to say “tank you” for so long
I drew a bass.
Thanks!
blood so colorful
one wide helmet
that ought to hurt
A part of this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1raGV-7LCW66CUxCNoL1-deppNIJ2guV2r22LH701sdk/edit?usp=sharing
fuel ass
looks noice
Thank you
@left wind It's Devitt boi. Author ? Well, that dude who posted it (aka me).
I like that shocktrooper*
already made it, though i need to remake it again since it looks mediocre
i meant to improve it but whatever
same premise ffs
Cool
says that while remaking the hatchet which was uhhh - trainwrecked shall i say
I think the huge turrets make them cute
the warden tank, with the huge hull and tiny turret looks like a bmp1 @left wind
french BMP1
.
yeah, it looks way better
Ahhhhh kill me pls. Explosions r hard.
This accurately reflects my current mood. :'^)
Cool
Yes yes, nazi is bad, but hey, i decided to get back into making countryballs while playin hoi4, give me a break
Soviet: *A lot of Army come *
@nocturne void here is the contemporary of the “Zealot” mk 9 warden medium tank; the P38 “Sickle” colonial medium tank
that's pretty good what is it's design based off of?
Give me a second
So the driver seat was based loosely on the is 2 early design
Hull was a mix of t-34 and bt-7
Turret is like a tog 2 turret but backwards and with the octagonal top of a crusader
@nocturne void
Gunner seat is completely original
oh
This one is my personal favorite because it was technically designed first. Yeah quite a laundry list of designs
My first foxhole tank so it bears my name
@nocturne void
thats good
A feature I like is that the mg turret serves two purposes. Gun platform and effective frontal turret shield
always gotta protect that turret ring
I wonder how long till people begin the knit-picking
Gonna start a timer I will let you know
ok
mountain practice which reminds me of the snowy warden homeland
@kindred lion for a minute there i thought the structure on the pic was a giant ball creature with thin legs on the mountain
aka half-cursed (zombified) Warden, who has developed... the third eye.
Cursed 82DK boi
@high ledge I am confus. Which direction am I supposed to read this? It doesn't make sense in any direction
Take a guess.
Why not both 
Bi plane most likely ww1 or early ww2 design
Yeah
@left wind Reminds me of Avia B-534
Show me please
Well, two guns precisely, y'can't see the other one for reasons being the perspective of this bi-
Still looks kinda similar and i love it
Eldritch Anachronism
ah yes
Real nice job, looks legit
the cropduster repurposed for combat
Why thank you
how da ya like my new redesigned hatchet?
I think I missed that one?
Although, you can make the turret hexagon as the top one by doing like 2~3 rows of 1 shade lighter at the left side
it is what I did with my battletank
its very smoll this way, but if you load it into your editor, you see that the leftish side plade is the same shade as the top and front, which gives it a bend/angled effect
i know
👍
Lets just say that one is off the photo
or that it got shot down by invisible AA guns
They are not invisible they are well camouflaged
That's... That's the whole thing about camouflage.
True
Idk why but I'd love to make a FH anima with my personal experiences lol
It's be pretty easy to write the story and law
Including clans that have been around since the beginning
And even clans that have died out could feature (dying in the show maybe)
And it could go through the updates
Showing new things being added ect
Idk
I just had a really bro moment with some ppl I used to organise FH ops with and it seemed like a cool idea
Just gonna share this cause I feel inspired to either write a story or make something
WIP Foxhole: 3 Nations
@rocky tiger I really appreciate seeing that
I love the SCP universe, practically unspoken here.
@left wind I wanted to make it look that those dusters glorious biplanes are strafing infantry
but your infantry is well... offsize
too large
Legend
what
Lord's Angry eyes
What happened to her clothes?
My bayonets usually tend to rip flesh, not just clothes.
Its a good piece, but I’m personally not a fan of anime-based artwork.
Well long seiges arnt the best place to get a replacement uniform
I suppose.
@high ledge maybe alittle torn but nor that much?
too late
yeah
maybe just ass... I dunno
HUD
but the question is
from which AW
1 or 2 ?
I thought I would put this in here since I forgot to, but this is a wonderful artpiece done by @novel quest for me for halloween. Also since he also didn’t really show anybody.
'Twas a fun one. Glad you like it.
Yeah but it makes me really miss Space Marine though...
Also didnt show it anywhere as I leave it up to the person as to whether or not they want show it around, just in case.
I made something today. I hope you guys like it
@stuck crown April Fool's update where both sides have their models replaced by a Shrek model wearing their respective uniforms pls
winter update
Unfinished
@half spear finish it
no u
shrekhole when
@stuck crown why
Does someone have a comprehensive gallery or something else of all the official concept work, including those from deblogs/streams?
Because fug, I am at the limits of my ability to realize out this damned comic.
Or, hell, any good views of cityscapes and such.
I don't know if anyone needs or even wants a grid system overlaid on the map, but here you go.
now I can play the world's best game of catan
white is sheep, green is wood, brown and blue nothing
lotta trading with the bank
This is gonna be the grid you play the campaign we're running on, so you're not too far off.
Also, here's it in the context of the world. Lower resolution, cause full is 30mb and roughly 20 million pixels.
A pixel for each casualty of a foxhole war, eh?
Sikarii: ego boost
@blissful heath ego boost +1
From slapping down some lines?
no from getting your slapped-down lines pinned
don't mind me i pin things that maybe useful or for some niche people
Colonials Commando (Sorry Spam, but edit this art)
is that a shotgun with a pistol grip
Some people have.... extra attention on realistic details 
Well, I see..
But that's people, just keep on what you like
You right.. thank you
shotgun :(
camo :)
When Live in jungle
They are hunter
Their knife is Steal and Easyly cut enemy
And Hunt enemy
that why make Commando
Oh please
Ehhh the moment has passed

@olive cove Hey, thanks, this helps massively and will help even more in the future. It makes it much more easy to see general city concepts that are not from the weird bird's eye view thirdperson.
Something something I wish I could camera glitch so I can actually see the cool in game setting pieces >:V
You see, how do you even do that. I wanted to take screens of every angle of jade cove, abandoned ward, and viper pit among others.
are those pics from current game version or older one?
@raven spire current but the devs made it harder to do
@high ledge the devs almost patched it out but I somehow was able to do it again. Sadly I was in tempest so no cool pics
I have more pictures of viper
Both of those are too
so its not 100% doable now, but more random? 🤔
Yes
Just give me an empty server with a camera mode enabled so I can look around reee

No lol funny haha
Incoming!
Oh yeah?
Oh you're right Dyno, this isn't #530118243378003998
@half spear we should go to screenshots chat
rather than this place.
True
I've got some counterscreenshots to beat you
Looks great mulon
really great
@high ledge I'll tell you how in PMs
Ah
Foxhole is art
What is Westgate's filter?
Workin' on a little somethin'
excuse any mishaps here and there - paint.NET's not the best tool for this shit
Day 9 but its the 22nd
Looked at the prompt list and saw that the 22nd is 'Ghost'. Decided to try and contribute the only way I can: writing.
It's short, definitely not a masterpiece, but for something written and edited in a single day, it's... I don't know actually.
An illustration I am working on.
tfw your strength lies in one of the least consumed forms of media
(psst: it's pictureless writing)
For every person who reads a book, there's 12 people who either refuse to read or give up after 4 sentences.
It's probably more than 12 to 1
(I mean, movies and tv shows adapted from books do better than the books themselves, and not because of the marketing)
Cool
@high ledge Ooh, what's this for?
Ah just a sci fi worldbuildin thinie
That's pretty sweet, I like it
You using it for a game design or anything like that?
Spent all night learning adobe after effects, creating this...
Snow
i painting the somewhere in callahan passage
Light machine gun (wheel)
i fucked up bigtime
The tails would likely be straight
I straightened it the best I can
Cant do better?
The prop size is ridicules
owo
@peak oyster might want to size down the propeller to like 2/3 that size
OwO its got a slight gull wing similar to an F4u or the JU-87 except reversed
@faint egret no they are just broken
;-;
Idk
There seems to be a precise angle apparent on both sides that is purposeful rather than clear damage
0/---
Like that
Ish
@autumn leaf
I think it looks like it was bent in several places
It has b en bent but at the connection it looks a deliberate bend
@faint egret it could just be that way as like a attach point for the model
@faint egret we are talking about devs that have never designed a plane soo
Fair point I guess
@autumn leaf thats the actual size of the props
When I saw this lying behind a safehouse, I thought it may have crashed landed, but given the plane's position is in between some housing and the town hall, there's no way it could have crashed without damaging the houses, unless the pilot had the guts to land it like that.
@peak oyster thatll do panzer, thatll do.
Tried my best at fixing the wing
It looks like an Do-335 and F4U combined
look in #foxhole-creative
Looks like some SCP-939s about to mess up an MTF.
that guy is fucked
You underestimate MTF members
sucks that this guy ain't mtf then
man to fuck
these are confusing times
awesome
thanks
warden medium tank inspiration from D2 tank
Needs more curves
Not bad
that is really sexy @rocky tiger
how is it sexy 
Increase Rotundness
@rocky tiger machines can be sexy, that is an engineering thing
oh-.. okay
Very nice
mechanophile 
perfectly fren....warden
@mild raven nice job man!
thanks

my office after I tried to make a CO sprite of myself for the 45th time
KOP Bureau of Press, copyright by EgonCactus
doesn't look too bad tbh
@sick spoke amazing piece, although we only had permanent night once 👀
Wow, thank you @warped canopy
cool beans and all
Simple but cool.
Yeah I’d like to see a Collie try to do their symbol on a pumpkin, ahah amirite, get wrecked lol
I feel like starting over with this, but meh.
@high ledge really good but i have to ask: what order are the panels supposed to be read in?
Right to left.
But uhhh yeah not very clear.
ohh k
Reason why I might just scrap it entirely.
with some clever stitching together you could probably fix it
tfw one of the first ideas I had for this was to have the traumatic intro to war being one of having her forced to execute a deserter or an enemy, not dissimilar from the current lore story. Thank goodness I didn't go with that idea since it would have been seen as copying official lore stuff.
tf
The comic is going to go through a pretty standard war story.
Naïve recruit --> New soldier baptized through fire --> Expert yet cruel professional --> Bitter and jaded vet
Because I have the creativity of a wet paper towel over a bowl of oatmeal.

Yeah same.
Because I have the creativity of a wet paper towel over a bowl of oatmeal.
https://i.imgur.com/JDQkB9Y.gif
well tbf war is pretty standard
happy recruit expecting a quick deployment and trip back home is treated to the horrors of war
it's been told a million times and still happens today
I also plan to do a little comic about one of my characters.
I prefer to tell something the other way around
My art contest submission was like that
I just need the energy and motivation.
@remote lynx jaded and cynical vet becomes happy recruit?
lol
close
jaded vet learns there's still kindness in the world
something like that
someone should write a story not about the war but the impact the vets have when they return home
You mean like Hugo?
maybe relations with his wife fall apart and he starts drinking or something
yeah pretty much
I'm planning a slight more humor.
Ok... What about this:
Warden captain that is harsh but has the appearance of a young boy and not many people take him seriously.
@high ledge you reminded me:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/826m94/the_sound_of_distant_guns/
go read it
i'll wait
dang that's a good story
i think there's a quote out there along the lines of "we who have seen war will never stop seeing it"
that story reminded me of it
Ooo hfy
Such great stories
Hmm... i wonder who thats supposed to be...
it's mummy cosplaying as miku

Still in the works - Light Mech Unit
https://youtu.be/PNSAMeHz3dk
to any of those watercolourists out there
Where to begin with a watercolor? This time I start loose, knowing I can paint my white accents in gouache. After a colored pencil lay-in, I lightly establis...
@left wind how does it walk?
good enough :p
@left wind
Used padfoot's pumpkin for the background
Anime REEEE
Just kidding. It looks great.
Final day. I decided to put a little bit more effort.
might be a little late but i already added in a fladhlight - and made it somewhat curvier
painted part 4 qtaro kujo
Nice one soup :)
<33
very nice
why are yall so good at art
???:Good greif
Still scratching my head over ideas for this unit. Couldn't make it more curvy, assembled it too early
dissemble!
i england
@atomic latch you are very bad moth man
in my defence, I am hungover
Disassemble? Too late, I'm already out of my research station
roby rose
Cool
Some Britwank Althistory stuff
^ rude
Florida has been split!
florida man flips the bird to the britts
@analog pike where is this? looks interesting
@high ledge on the alternatehistory.com, it's a forum, so it requires account. This screen comes from a one mapgame.
keek
smells like TFOE to me
That one insane dude, if I could currently show how my turn had look like compared to other ones... you would be really shocked
@high ledge
nice
I needed to lower the scale to actually fit that text wall in
The actual screen
like, every single threadmarked post before my turn was about that short
This group prjoect escalated
yes
now it went too far
building is so much harderthan reassembling
looks like the front of a train
or a hastely sketched out drop pod
Naruto from Dragon Slayer: Seven Dragon Balls
Are those boom emoticons representing fat man and little boy or...?
insert nuke
twice
I've almost finished rebuilding the outer armour of the wing
I was just hysterical
Oh Please I hate Japen Nazi someting
something i did for a friend
sir, I think there is something wrong with your helmet
very cool
Got a date wrong. It should be 1884 instead of 1886
@high ledge why must you forsake me

This still exists?
Yes
Somehow
that is neat
:(
🤔
@peak rover Idk where you're looking, but there's still a lot of good artists here
Dont worry ms paint can be a very good tool :)
Dude.
You can do good shit in MS Paint if you have a basic understanding of digital art and patience.
case in point: “jim’ll paint it”
MS Paint's also good for Pixel Art
well, if y'don't have cash for photoshop/aseprite or if y'don't know how to use paint.NET
Last-minute idea
A turd?
yes
a heavy-turd
or a boulder covered in mud
okay i'm now here stuck trying to make a better leg for this bastard
Never finished and I don't think I'll ever will. Lmao
i like it but i don't like it at the same time
Finally got it nailed down, I hope
hi guys, i know this is not a foxhole related thing, but i have designed a lego car for the current Lego Ideas contest (if you like lego check it out, there are some really cool cars there), in which you have to build a 50s/60s inspired car.
so the thing is that i wanted to make something based around the studebaker starlight, this weird, but awesome looking car
and i am not quite sure which front design i like more
so, which one you do you prefer?
keep in mind that it is inspired by it, but it is not an exact copy by any means
Far left looks uhhh... Standard, shall we say?
I like the one to the right the most
I legit cannot see a difference between the 3 starting from the right
The left most one is the only one I can see is different
Here is something I am working on, but it is not done yet. Look for what you see that looks done, if you wanna give me some critique, it is much appreciated. Don't talk about the nose, I do know it has to be changed :3
Did you spotted the differences?
if you wanna give me some critique, it is much appreciated.
Not sure if I can critique. I absolutely suck at drawing stuff so unless it's something an art noob like myself can see, I got no critique... I think.
Hell, I can't even unsee shading
Shading's made up of different colors, like the left pauldron has some purple in it, but I can't unsee it as shading and if I had to do something like that myself I wouldn't even know what kind of colors I'd need
Oh, man, just give it as much as you can. Critique is always good, be it from a pro or a noob.
It is a principle of using some colours right
Cold for shade, warm for light
Like, you see the shadow cast by the nose? I can only see it as a shadow being cast, not as simply a darker brown pretending to be a shadow
Blue and yellow, okay?
You wanna use other colours?
Which are the most used colours, the main colours of youf drawing?
Wanna make if purple, blue, yellow green? Etc.?
Pick two, cold and warm.
The only shadows I can actually draw is simply adding a semi-transparent grey layer on top
Use them in all freaking places. Shadow,l ight, combine with any colour. Make your drawing in 2 colours. You see purple in the pauldron? Cause the biggest part of the drawing is purple. That is why. You see on the pauldron yellow? Her hair is orange, use it there too.
It is simple. Use the colour from object b in object a and vice versa
You got 3 apples.
Red, green yellow. You must see red, green, yellow, in different ratios in all of the apples.
I can't just slap a color onto somewhere. I don't have a picture in my head that I can follow to the letter. I mean I do have a picture in my head, but it's so vague I can't use it as an example to retrace on actual (or digital) page.
Shadow is green, light is yellow. Ratios vary so that red is still red and etc. But ypu see yelow both in the red and green one. Red both in the yellow and green one and green both in the yellow and red one.
Oh
I simply cannot see how using a darker or lighter color can make a shadow
This is a chromatic thecnique
It is not seen irl
It is used in painting
Because painting is a way of enhancing the reality
googles chromatic technique
And you must add youd knowledge and logic to the real picture. That is why you never make all freaking leaves fom a tree you picture the idea.
Oh, idk if it is in english at all... chromatic... let me search
My pictures are blurs at best
the ones in my head
Like if you were to take a picture and jumble all the information and then only see one single bit at a time
Basically from Romanian if translates as coloring technique XD
A puzzle that hasn't been put together yet
looking at a step guide, and they have these two pictures
Well, the idea is, irl there is never a true dark and a true white. So even whiter colours are grayish or darker colours looks more pale
That is in graphic, traditional pencil art.
Like, I can't see in the first picture where the darker yellow and the white are suppsed to go
But using cold colours for shadow and dark colours for light is a composition technique
That is because you think it logically but not also visually
It makes sense when you simply draw a thousand of these objects
I had this debate about shadows with one of the devs at some point
shading's fuckin hard
Practice till you learn that is the point
Slowly, you understand.
It is.
Look, hold on
I've tried to practice drawing. It was like having a tiny devil on my shoulder taunting me at every turn
Someone shared a video about shading 4 shapes
dude in the video said to draw a single shadow for all of them
might be paraphrasing a bit here
hold on
a dev posted the video, trying to find it
Try then to add shadows to the shapes. Not from your mind.
Make a white cube out of paper, try to draw it
From simple, basic, to compex.
@karmic stream wanna have a discussion about shading? :D
I am in the mood for some art discussions :D if you got the time, ofc.
here's a great free series of tutorials
some are paid
but its cheap
lots of great info on drawing and rendering
found it
Adam (Mr. Clapfoot)03/06/2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nap7dwHjD9YFor all ya'll
Become a better digital or traditional artist! Each episode will give you tools for stronger paintings. - LINKS - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/marcobucci ...
dude says the whole shadow in the picture I posted is 1 shape, but to me each and every seperate color is a new shape
yes think of shadows as large blocks you are better having fewer bigger one then lots of small shapes
the next step would be to start defining the individual shapes with reflected light in the shadows
that's new shapes
I've tried this website in the past, but I never got past his Lvl. 0
http://www.thedrawingwebsite.com/beginners-drawing/
There can be detail in a defined shape. You have effectively 'blocked in' where the shadows are and defined the graphic shape of them.
a detail is a new shape
Oh, yeah, wanna give me a small critique on what I did here? Like I said the nose is what I am aware of and I actually changed today, but this photo is before I made the nose, so XD
Yes, I will wait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3WmrWUEIJo heres a good break down of the types of light involved in rendering
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1 2 and 3 are not actually 3 different shapes. More like 3 different planes.
They are different shapes
They have all have a color that differs from 4 and each other
I just see a cilindre
Together they make the thing you see, but they are 3 different shapes
is your goal to reduce the total number of shapes? do you want more definition or more simplification?
You really dont mean planes? As in for shading and lighting?
The problem is that I can't see the different shapes as a whole until after it's already complete
But give another example
are they 3 different shapes now?
So that we can compare and understand exactly, together, what you mean. Like, use a photo, a real life photo and circle the shapes.
But that is supposed to be a cilindre. Fuck I am not at my computer to show what I mean exactly.
With planes.
But planes... faces of an object. Bormally, that cilindre would have at least 3 planes. Dark, in-between and light. Below, centre and above. Thag is why I said planes. Just like your nose has front and sides at the pyramid.
And they make up shapes
a dark shape, an in-between shape, and a light shape
I can't see them as planes until after the painting or image is complete
So you mean you see them as shapes, instead of planes?
They are shapes until they make up a larger shape
Because a shape is your head. Your neck. Your body. Your pelvis, etc.
So the three shades of green don't make up a cillinder until the entire cillinder is finished
For example, your nech is a cilindre. Your body is a sort kind of cube.
Not cube... uhh
How was if called in english...
No, if you see your body round, you lose the planes.
cube or block
Oh, so cube, okay
rectangle
Yeah
Like, those are shapes. But those shapes have different 2d planes where you put the basic shading and lighting in the first part of the process, right?
A shape can be a plane or a 3D shape like a cube. It can be a silhouette too.
A shape can be made up of planes or just one plane itself
Oh, okay, that is true, forgot that
so the 3 planes that made up the camera in your art are each shapes. But the camera is also a shape aswell. The shapes you choose to draw and render make up the style you are doing. you didn't have to make those 3 shapes and the camera still reads to a viewer.
but you chose them and they add structure and form and 3D
I think they added to the camera overall
without them it reads as a more graphic image (though its already a graphic style) with out them its more graphic.
I like it with them but I understand the image without
without them I can't tell the arm to the left disappears into a sleeve
what is your question exactly though?
Still, now, I don't really get it on ths idea of seeing the camera as a cilindre in 2 triangles plus a trapeze instead of 2 smaller rectangles and a bigger one in the middle. It might be just me?
Okay, wait
How in the blue blazes people can see seperate colors as a whole for shading before it's even finished
The arm which is forward is darker than the one behind, ag least the sleeve. It depends, but the opposite would be more logic. Is that correct?
Take away the context and you're left with a slightly darker shape
Or which color to use to make it look like shading
We don't see colours as a whole.
The arm which is forward is darker than the one behind, ag least the sleeve.
without it you wouldn't be able to tell the arms apart
And to that question, we come back here: a colder colour that is already in the image.
You ever get that advice to paint upside down?
Don't use red for a shade, use it for light. A basic thing. You can always play with colours. Here, to give you an example, I would use a warmer colour, like a yellow above a lighter green while using a colder colour like blue on a darker green.
the short answer is training! do 100 of these and build the visual memory for graphic structure.
I tried to practice in the past, but the drawings I made bullied me into stopping
'Art skill' is man hours of training.
I also think it has to do with study. How light drops on an object
and having people critique your work asking and searching.
Maybe still and dynamic nature? (Or whatever is called in english? :D)
No, in english is called life? Instead of nature, or smth?
I still have my two or three attempts at Inktober from last year around here somewhere, but by day 3 I looked at them and they were so bad I just gave up as the prompts kept getting more and more complex
self confidence comes with setting a goal and completing it. asking for critique taking it and learning to improve. Someone saying they love your work to me is less important then a honest critique. I like to think of working on a drawing as practice for the next piece I am not working on yet.
At this point I'm so drained of motivation for drawing I'm not even sure I could come up with an idea out of boredom
But still, man, practice, behind all "talented" artists it's just work. Really.
I feel down too working on art but I know to trust the skills I have learnt and if I don't like the end result thats ok, its a stepping stone.
My horrendous drawing experience led me to writing instead, and the only reason I kept that up for years on end is because I couldn't see how bad I was.
You push forward, right?
And now, @remote lynx you think my drawing above is that good? I can't wait for Julian to tell me what I did wrong and where to improve.
But with drawing it's immediately apparent how bad I am, so I stop
It doesn't matter the level of youd skill
Hell, your piece is like x1000 of what I can
You always have to learn and push forward.
if not more
push forward to what, all I'm making is kindling for the fireplace at best
I got here in 1 month of practice with a teacher who is the best in my city and top 10 in my country, top 50 in university adt teachers in Europe. 10 years of drawing before this spent on other stuff than the basics. I have problems with perspective and all that. Does it sound like I am good anymore?
yes
Think about it, 10 years of drawing without a teacher, almost blindfolded, basically.
still better than me
I jusf started to learn for real.
I woudl have dropped 293472819 times looking at the industry right now.
This I did with only a mouse, but even that doesn't make this excusable
But no, I push forward. I keep trying and learning. I am drawing every day.
I know I drew freehand on purpose to make it shittier, but still
notice the absolute lack of any kind of shading
Wolf, have you tried learning to draw? Or just wanted to do it? You said it's shitty right?
Of course is shitty in the first attempt.
Even if you think his art is 1000 times yours thats ok. In art school I would have break downs too comparing myself to others till I realized it doesn't matter so long as you are trying to do better then your last piece. Sometimes reading or listening to artist talks or podcast can give you inspiration to try something else. If you have trouble with structure or lighting then listen to talks about those things.
I have tried, even followed classes in the past
All I learned by the end of it was how to draw a 3D cube and how to draw those wooden puppets
Art is not about trying to be better or as good as someone else's art its about self improvement and self reflection. No matter your level there are people who are better then you. and me.
I have artist I think are better then me and that I will never be as good as. Whatmatters is that I try to make my next piece better then my last and ignore comparing it to other artist.
I stopped art because whatever appeared on paper was never what I wanted
That is always try but you start getting closer and closer to whats in your head
That's the problem
Drawing isn't fun until you actually manage to draw what you want how you want it.
Yeah, Anthony Jones was a guy who said: best art habbit is not to give a fuck about other's work and improve yours. Cause it is YOUR art and YOUR style as much as you wanna copy somebody else you can't. You are yourself and do it for yourself. My drawing is better because I have practiced. I was not born with that drawing in my hand. You can too. 100% no buts.
It's not fun until then, and that can take years
I can't invest years if I can't have fun until after
I enjoy the challenge and learning. I fill up sketchbooks with drawings that I will never show off as practice because I have fun doing it.
I don't
Doesn't it hurt your fingers a lot until you sing it. Just like julian said, enjoy challenge.
I don't have fun because what comes out isn't what I'm trying to make
In art, and in life too.
Ofc, you just started. And yes, drawingclasses 5 years ago won'g mean anything if you haven't grabbed a pencil in those years. You have to try. Over and over again. Think about the satisfaction it gives you once you finally get it done the way ypu want.
with a guitar you can still have a good time, even if you don't have a smidge of musical sense, simply by stringing together the different notes until you have something that you think might be a melody, even if everyone else hates it
Think about the satisfaction it gives you once you finally get it done the way ypu want.
A payoff in the future is never a motivation for me
I got problems with hands. I hate them. That is one such example of challenge and stuff... you don't wanna see my sketchbooks on hands.
I have to enjoy the process
But that means that maybe art is nof for you? Or maybe it is but you jusf have to make a little change in mentality?
It depends.
And it also doesn't matter. You do what you wanf after all, XD
With writing, I enjoyed writing every sentence even if it was bad. And when I stopped enjoying writing sentences for that story, I'd stop. No matter how satisfied or proud I might feel if I kept going and finished it, I stopped.
How do you see making a cube?
You draw a square and then add three diagonal lines and connect those
only after the last step is it a cube
That is why, imo. Because you see lines and shades and lights and other stuff
See an image
I can't




