Even if it will be medium tank
#art-discussion
glacial fractal
Whatever
its too big
Why you want to make oversized tank when you can make it much smaller
this is sherman
peak oyster
Because you can fit a bigger engine and more armour
Increase mobility or defensibility
glacial fractal
But they dont have bigger armor and engine
they have late light tank armor and normal light tank speed
with sherman size
40mm cannon
peak oyster
They are smaller than you seem to think they are
glacial fractal
peak rover
is this a tank talk?
glacial fractal
cupola is ~ 0.20 meters
peak oyster
Ignoring it it's probably around 2.6~2.8m
glacial fractal
its around 3 meters
peak oyster
It's a pretty big cupola
peak oyster
The M5 has much less armour though
peak oyster
Am I thinking of the M3?
glacial fractal
i have M5 stuart wiki page opened
Look how tanks are made
was made *
they was really compact
when hatchet is just like a box
glacial fractal
Whatever
glacial fractal
And ?
we dont have any info about hatchet technology year
its propably mid 2ww
glacial fractal
Lol
peak oyster
The collies are pretty much themed in a ww2 style, so they take inspiration from the whole thing
glacial fractal
we have ballistic missiles
glacial fractal
AGHH
Every discussion what i take about a desight
is closing in that simple theme "we need tech tree revamp"
well
fuk
Most of problems of acctual designs of vehicles/weapons is closing in tech tree revamp
Do you agree ?
peak oyster
Yes
glacial fractal
Congratulations, we have
autumn leaf
We have literal nukes
autumn leaf
Um, what
Its a massive ball of fire that makes all the buildings "red". They. Are. Nukes. Stop saying they arnt
blissful heath
But they aren't
just because they behave like nukes doesn't mean they're nukes
a furry in a fursuit isn't a cat because they act like one
there's no nuclear component in foxhole's missiles, therefore they are not a nuclear device
blissful heath
You don't need half of what's needed to make a nuke when you're making a missile in Foxhole
Also, I think the description says it contains 3 tons of explosive payload
For comparison, the Little Boy (a very primitive and non-powerful nuclear bomb) had 15,000 tons of explosive payload
autumn leaf
Yet it makes it where you cant build or use any buildings, and you die far from the impact. Everything shows red on the map. It sounds like radiation only to buildings
With explosives atleast you can rebuild
And three tons wouldnt just make a entire town unusable. Hell the actual V2 had two tons of explosive and sure, ill wreck a block and collapes a house but not level a town and make it unusable
What we have in game is like a small tactical nuke.
ember oasis
it sure as hell leave some strange shit behind, but it doesnt give me cancer no matter how long i stand in it
fallout would give you severe burns during the daytime and relatively soon to impact
patent jetty
they are not nukes
they are ballistic missiles
keep that in mind, they can level a small town, but you can't take down an entire city with it.
rocky tiger
should i use old style or this style
brazen grove
this one, improved.
high ledge
This cuter
cerulean anvil
Anything you feel happy doing it.
buoyant crest
^
tropic verge
yee, anyone you think looks nicer but my vote is the old one
high ledge
this style looks smug lol
vast scaffold
I feel like this nuke talk goes deeper than the science it was created in. 
high ledge
Heavy water
autumn leaf
I have a Atom, I have a Hammer! Boom! Hammer Atom Atom Pe-face melts off
high ledge
do eny of you know how mutch a capitol light infantry squad is worth. its form a table top game called warzone. they look like astartes with army drill caps on.
olive cove
It's only used in media because it makes sense depending on the movie or show, they don't just use it as some throwaway phrase, doesn't give people the excuse to say it whenever though, especially in your case (deleted the message, and will be deleting everything relating to it, as it doesn't have any place in this channel)
For those confused, this is in response to a discussion about a certain word.
remote lynx
To be honest, the whole world could decide a totally random word is now "the very big bad" overnight and mods everywhere would start policing that word within a week
Neither a good thing nor a bad thing.
But I wouldn't be surprised if people in 50 years look back and wonder what the fuss was all about
with any word, really. Language, and the peoples that speak them, change.
/spitballing at 3 am
remote lynx
autumn leaf
@remote lynx i mean there are several words thay used to be thrown around without a thought but are now taboo. Times change, people change and expand their horizons. People that fight that are scared of change and/or social progression, wanting to stick to the past.
high ledge
I wanna draw a "silence liberal" crab just for this occasion but y'all do make some points
blissful heath
this was about the n-word, wasn't it
high ledge
Most likely
high ledge
you mean Nutella?
rocky tiger
or next month
analog pike
I went back to making Kalletian Air Force, yey.
this will be the only plane that looks so... off from the rest (y know, those radial noses, etc.)
and instead went on... more unique approach to topic of aircraft.
Your thoughts about this thick contraprop ? Would be this design even made sense ?
PS It's meant as carrier-borne fighter-bomber
I know.
But general shape
high ledge
Something I'm working on. What think?
high ledge
noice
vast scaffold
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358655322002423810/622503445319909421/SPOILER_unknown.png
MY favorite lore piece.
high ledge
lol
young spear
lol
lavish fox
Well that didn't really age well.
blissful heath
aged like milk
vast scaffold
Ofc, during last Saturday’s push.
covert salmon
Finally done
@lavish fox
I promised to tag you when the first one was done so here we are
This design was made after the events of the Great War
Meta: this aircraft was a kitbash of various depictions of the Skoda Kauba V5 and the BV 155
Personally, I’m probably gonna slowly improve this design until it looks just like what I was going for, but that’ll be for the C11 model
I’ve got more to come
high ledge
Thats a slick aircraft, foccen love it
lavish fox
@covert salmon Noice dude you should post your 2nd one here as well, or is it not finished yet?
covert salmon
Not finish yet
Finding the source material and picking out details is not going to plan
lavish fox
I see.
covert salmon
And for the other design. This design is based off of the esoteric CR.35 project done by Fiat
buoyant crest
Why so small in the corner? @covert salmon do a little of moving and cropping; or add them all together in a single picture!
covert salmon
I’m using fd scale, a scale I’ve done a lot of work with so I can throw them all into a single picture when I get all of them done and up to my standards
I’ve got a lot that I am going to make so stay tuned
buoyant crest
Oh, I make a lot of pixel scale too, but I just keep it closer together
Some of my repertoire
oh and this
Its quite a larger scale as yours
but it gets the point across
as I keep the ruler close to the action
peak oyster
What do you make the vehicles in?
covert salmon
I use paint dot net and shipbucket stuff for kitbashing
And I still use paint dot net for original stuff
Either way, I stick with the template and fd scale since it is a unified and well establish scale
Also that and I am part of the SB discord and I’d probably get a chewing out if I didn’t use the template
Also, the scale I’m using means I can make quick kitbashes with the designs so I can use them for other things
high ledge
@buoyant crest bringing out your vehicles eh
buoyant crest
@peak oyster overkill in photoshop; only reason for that is because I dont want to download a second art program on my already heavily limited storage space
The scale I use is the 1p:1cm scale, which is quite neat to get quick measurements going; it leaves more room for details but also means that large drawings get hard to look at due to the thin lines imo
the ships I do on 1:25, to keep it good visibility (although on the 160+ m size it already becomes quite big)
Issue for me using the fd scale is that you need a lot of soft lines in your drawings to prevent creating a black block; at that point I'd rather switch to something like AW-style animation
covert salmon
Yet, FD scale is what I’m used to so...
Either way, I’ve got some more plans ahead featuring a light bomber which is gonna be some ungainly mix between the Bf 162, one of the A-20 prototypes, and maybe some other weird stuff, stay tuned.
brazen grove
the fierce tomato sauce combatant
high ledge
yes of course
jade fable
pretty simple drawing of Craig Boone except he is a warden
if you played fallout new veags than you will know who it is
gloomy lodge
Understandable
mighty jolt
@peak rover , its a good idea, i'll try to find a picture of the ColliBus ^^
peak rover
XD np
lavish fox
Disclaimer: This is not my art, I just edited from the Warden Light Tank concept Art, I'm guessing it's originally by Julian.
I just think this would have been a nicer looking model, plus it kinda resembles more the French FT-17 which I kinda like and it then makes sense why it doesn't have a co-axial machine gun.
Same as above, but in reverse.
peak rover
@lavish fox a coaxial would be nice tho
lavish fox
I know but it sort of makes sense if they make it like the FT-17 since it didn't have one.
peak rover
lavish fox
It only either had a 37mm gun or a machine gun.
peak rover
I know but the ft17 were small compared to divvit
lavish fox
What is that, a 50mm gun?
peak rover
57mm anti tank
The whole rework I did for an improved light tank
Radio box mounted in back
57mm gun
Another crew member for bow mg
Coaxial for the gunner for defence
Trying to think of some other modifications that could be made
lavish fox
The devitt does look like it can take a bow machine gunner, not the Collie one tho.
peak rover
Hmm
lavish fox
I wonder what a Co-Axial MG would look like on the Warden BT.
peak rover
If it has a 100 round ammo rack we could sacrifice 60 rounds of that ammo for an extra person
lavish fox
Uhhh I don't think you'd be able to fit 60 40mm rounds in a person's place to be honest.
More like 40, 50 tops.
Maybe less even.
lavish fox
I mean it's what they did with the Firefly, they eliminated the bow MG gunner, welded up armor on the MG port and put a few more rounds in his place but it wasn't much, 17 pounder rounds are big ass.
peak rover
I would say turret basket
Well yea they are basically 76mm rounds
Also Sherman’s were a little of the smaller side
peak rover
Have you been inside a Sherman
lavish fox
But they were still pretty big.
They were high profile is what I'm trying to say.
And no.
peak rover
There is not much room the breath letalone store ammo
Most of the ammo was stored on the floor
And around the turret basket
lavish fox
I'm not even sure how much ammo can be stored in the Sherman, I know it's something like 92 rounds for the Tiger tho, 46 of APCR and HE.
Each that is.
peak rover
No more like 36 rounds
lavish fox
I'm pretty sure it was 41 rounds each.
peak rover
Actual I we are both wrong 71 if 1 is already in the gun
lavish fox
Are you talking about the Tiger or Sherman?
peak rover
71 rounds for a Sherman with a 76mm gun
lavish fox
I was talking about the Tiger, like I said I don't know what it was for the Sherman.
lavish fox
Yep, definitely. Altho later war a lot of 75mm armed Light Tanks and Armored Cars started popping up.
Like the Chaffee and AEC Mk III.
high ledge
Tiny scout Tim. I tried making a collie scout tank and so far it's only a tiny battle tank D:
peak oyster
On ammo storage in tanks in game:
tame gorge
Thanks KFC.
buoyant crest
just in racks in the side of the hull
olive cove
Ooo I wanna help with that mod, just wish I was good at using the GEM editor
So I could make maps
peak oyster
It like stopped being a thing cos I was the only one working on the entire thing aside from theory
gloomy lodge
I have always wanted to fight in Deadlands in MoWAS2
cerulean anvil
React with the dev you want here.
willow remnant
@peak oyster I'am very excited to see the result of this projet 
We maybe gonna be able to control our troops on the frontline this time
rocky tiger
the crew pew pew
stuck crown
Sketchfab is back up and running after a long time
https://sketchfab.com/clapfoot
high ledge
lavish fox
A few more mixed vehicles edited from Julian's concept art.
First one is my own interpretation of a "Heavy" Armored Car equipped with either a rapid fire 20mm auto-cannon of sorts or a 37mm gun, whatever your imagination desires.
2nd is an Amphibious tank, inspired by the US LVT4(A) of course.
Last one is basically an FMG Light Tank, a sort of Relic Armored Fighting Vehicle on steroids if you will.
remote lynx
@lavish fox I really like the first one, but I think that's obvious by now.
lavish fox
Yeah the LT turret really fits it well.
Turret on the "amphibious" tank should probably be a bit more centered and forward.
gloomy lodge
Im getting LVT vibes
lavish fox
Yep, that's what I said it was pretty much inspired from.
gloomy lodge
Didn't see it the first time lol
lavish fox
Minus the fact that it's a 37mm gun instead of a 75mm short barrel howitzer of course.
remote lynx
though I want the gun on a heavier AC to be a 20mm autocannon
with AP, HE, and Shrapnel
(still believe that HE and Shrapnel should be one and the same shell)
isn't Shrapnel just HE-Frag?
depends on how much HE is in them, I suppose
lavish fox
I mean to be honest it kinda looks like a 20mm auto cannon.
It just looks like a bit smaller and weirder looking 222 to me in a car shape.
If you know what I mean.
lavish fox
Keep in mind you're gonna be limited towards ammo type tho. I mean the LT even has only 1 slot for ammo so no surprise if this "Heavy" Armored Car has only 1 as well.
And people are probably gonna be rolling with AP most of the time anyhow.
remote lynx
and because it only has one slot people either use default or AP
lavish fox
Even if shrapnel doesn't require emats.
Yeah exactly.
Carrying shrapnel with you only feels like going around with your pants down, at least to me.
remote lynx
If we do get assault guns (122mm or larger low velocity guns), they should definitely get shrapnel shells and more than 1 slot
if not, people will probably just only use default ammo
they probably shouldn't get AP
Just HE and Shrapnel
lavish fox
I mean assault guns like the StuG weren't meant as Tank Destroyers but filled that role nicely.
So them not getting AP would not really make sense to be honest.
And I believe the SU-122 and ISU-122 you're referencing also had AP rounds.
As well as the SU-152 and ISU-152.
I'm not aware of Artillery having AP rounds tho.
So stuff like the FA, Howitzers, Mortars and in the future hopefully the Self-Propelled Guns (based on the current tanks I'm guessing) should not have AP rounds.
Also the line between an assault gun and tank destroyer was pretty blurry even at the start of World War 2 and even more so in the later part so again, them having AP rounds at least to me makes complete sense.
Since they always had standard tank cannons just fitted in a fixed casemate instead of a turret to save time and resources on production.
remote lynx
@lavish fox I mean things like the StuH, KV-2, and M4A3(105). SU-122 didn't have AP.
ISU-122 has an anti-tank gun, not a howitzer
SU-152 is a bit of an outlier as it can be both
lavish fox
Yeah but the StuG was classified as an assault gun.
And I'm not really aware of the Soviet guns, I just assumed they again classified their vehicles as assault guns like the SU-76 which had the ZiS-3 which was a field gun, capable of being used as both an AT gun and a field howitzer of sorts, I think.
Of course I didn't mean proper howitzer equipped tanks like the ones you mentioned.
remote lynx
I do mean ones with howitzers
In Foxhole terms it would be a tank with the howitzer as its main gun, albeit in direct fire mode
lavish fox
What I actually imagine is the FA mounted on a tank chassis with both a direct fire mode that fires like an AT gun and an indirect one that fires in an arc, like the FA, but it's shots are spread out, like a howitzer's.
But then again that would leave little for a self-propelled gun to do then which should either be just an FA or Howitzer mounted on a tank chassis again but acting like either one as they are right now in the game, just more mobile.
rancid carbon
Perhaps have it only able to fire standard and Shrapnel shells in indirect fire mode and AP in direct fire mode
That way it cant be used like a standard tank
Although AP does do enough damage to structures to make it viable
lavish fox
However they implement it, it will be really interesting for me, especially if it has both a direct and indirect fire mode.
And I think it having a fixed gun and not turret and a small gun traverse would make it unique enough not to be a tank.
Apart from the 2 mode firing and probably no HMG.
So to sum it up in my mind it's:
-
Fixed gun, no turret, limited gun traverse so you need to rotate the entire vehicle in order to fire effectively which means you will always need fuel in the tank in order to rotate (can't turn without fuel), and of course, effective communication so the gun needs to be powerful enough to warrant this.
-
Dual purpose as mentioned, has both direct and indirect fire capability. Can be fired like a mobile AT gun or Howitzer/Field Artillery, perhaps has a bit more limited range however than those since it's a bit more mobile.
-
No MG/Anti-infantry self-defense so will require a lot of support, basically making it into a glass cannon with huge, long range damage potential but perhaps limited mobility and close range combat capabilities.
remote lynx
Except KFC ruled gun traverse to be OP
So a self-propelled artillery piece probably won't be self-propelled
No I'm not salty, where'd you get that idea from
remote lynx
sec
@lavish fox ^
So they won't buff it because that would probably make it OP, and giving it gun traverse would be a buff
Therefore...
lavish fox
I guess no gun traverse then, driver will have azimuth and will need to coordinate with the tank commander/spotter in order to rotate the vehicle in the right direction altho I can't really imagine how that's gonna work exactly.
remote lynx
What will happen is the gunner begging the driver to turn left or right.
Which is a nightmare since A and D lack the fine control needed to adjust 1 degree at a time like you sort of can on the howitzer
lavish fox
Yeeep.
high ledge
Whats we talkin bout rn bois
rocky tiger
for non-weeb user
ebon pelican
where medic girl go?
ebon pelican
great work
rancid carbon
Lol thanks
trail night
Ink that !!! NOW! i want them to look even better!
atomic latch
@rocky tiger u been drawing nice stuff
rocky tiger
thx
remote lynx
that's lit
cerulean anvil
Decided to colour it.
high ledge
a manga about a logistics officer in a Russian-like fictional military
Muh logi manga
tawdry sequoia
brazen grove
logistics; how and why would you
runic linden
First time animating something like this
tame gorge
Is this Pivot?
runic linden
Yeah
tame gorge
Good for starters.
runic linden
Might improve on it at a later stage
remote lynx
I mean, there's not much better than Just In Time supplies
rocky tiger
here we go
rocky tiger
i hate that background
tame gorge
Background stinks with anime. Otherwise pleasing.
brazen grove
the tank looks like its sideways
cerulean anvil
Next project.
buoyant crest
nice, thanks, I hate it
@high ledge Hnnnnngggnnnn that cover is so near but I am nowhere near a drawing tablet
sage coral
here's an StG I conjured up and wood furniture-fied
lavish fox
@cerulean anvil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrJVZZLv2GE
burn heretic
buuuuuuuurn
silver dove
@rocky tiger That stick figure animation reminded me of the glory days of Stickpage.com. 🙂
left wind
I know, I'm late to the party
analog pike
Holy Jesus
This shit right here
is gorgeous
except for BT, but still
@left wind You made a great contribution to the community, Sir.
left wind
<0
rocky tiger
let me draw new background
cerulean anvil
Hmm. Maybe digitigrade legs will make it more animal-like?
cerulean anvil
Not a bad idea. Maybe one day I will.
Just to clarify, I don't like all the usual furry stuff. With the colored fur and most human-like features.
However, I always liked the "anthro" type. The whole idea of tribal animals with some human characteristics.
It's common in folklore and games.
nova sedge
Remember me my former Platoon insignia,a fatigue trouser minotaur with a m2 HB machine gun.
willow remnant
@analog pike It's not the BT I think it's the H5 hatchet
left wind
Yeah it's the Hatchet.
analog pike
@willow remnant It was because of the turret.
Now this will propably have interesting flight characteristics
Thoughts ?
Maybe make nose big longer for bigger engine ?
remote lynx
tribal animals with some human characteristics.
There's a specific picture with a hyena in it that springs to mind, I just can't find it anymore
I did find this 
nova sedge
@analog pike because your plane make me thinking about the bell p39 aircobra. So perhaps a longer nose,more for tripod landing gears.
half spear
Logo For my new Clan LOX
high ledge
i don't have any friends
https://twitter.com/spacejpeg
i'm starting a twitter account for sharing images of space
Twitter
digital spade
always good to have new clans welcome to the big leagues Juno I wish LOX the best of luck
half spear
@digital spade Awww thx
digital spade
your welcome
autumn leaf
@lavish fox why do you post the cringiest shit just to be edgy
snow vessel
buoyant crest
@left wind Nice! more advance wars!
Looks darker than my designs lol, curious how you'd do the BT with that large of a LT
left wind
¯_(ツ)_/¯
analog pike
@nova sedge
nova sedge
👍 ,warbird style,nice.
Ready to mount a nose Canon and/or hood twin mg,and a tripod landing gears.
lavish fox
@autumn leaf Maybe because you're just a liberal and don't like me.
But I guess the communist manifesto doesn't teach you to respect other people's opinions and beliefs.
buoyant crest
what even is this?
Also, I think of all people here you are generally the most disrespecting, but off I go
left wind
Those look nice.
nova sedge
Like them really,colonial and warden camo.ready to provide air to ground support.great job @analog pike
lavish fox
@buoyant crest The only thing I disrespect is communism, and if your feelings are hurt on the internet maybe it's time to go outside and let the sunshine hit you a little bit.
buoyant crest
also, calling everyone disagreeing with you a communist doesnt solve the problem 😉
nova sedge
@buoyant crest @lavish fox not my problèm,but yours is a little not in the right place,so finish that on private please.thx
lavish fox
Well I got tagged here and somebody else started it, I'm just finishing it.
If they want a fight they'll get a fight.
Here's the only place they can initiate one anyhow.
buoyant crest
@nova sedge True, but I get annoyed by his post
@lavish fox Also, I never mentioned you saying you called me a communist, except I think you actually did once 😂
left wind
Just gonna post this before you fools get blasted by mods
nova sedge
@lavish fox for fight better do this in game perhaps,no?
nova sedge
I :think the second one,because it more look like a n interceptor,the first more look like a bomber.but Who can tell in dogfight.
autumn leaf
@lavish fox i bet you masterbait over your iron cross collection, given them ye old polish'
Wishing daddy Himmler could spank you and make 'germany great again'
tame gorge
Please stop.
lavish fox
And I thought I was the butthurt one.
autumn leaf
You strike me as the kind of guy that would be fine with the nazis coming back.
lavish fox
I already told your comrade raiding my artwork on Steam that I can't and will not defend the Nazis and Waffen SS or like them, altho some Waffen SS personnel stood out as honorable and noble like in Operation Market Garden even while being fanatics. The only time I would choose Nazism is however if I was given a choice between it and communism, that I admit. Because I believe that literally anything else, including death, is a better alternative to communism.
autumn leaf
Thats like the most brainwashed-post ww2 shit ive ever heard, you rather choose nazism to communism?? Like im communist and ill admit that stalin was a piece of shit. Trust me 'pissing on stalins grave' is one of my life goals for what he did and how he fucked it up for us but then, isnt, now. Its changed, people changed
Hell that wasnt even communism it was a dictatorship like hitler basically disguised as marxism
But saying 'Id rather be a nazi then a communist" is disturbing, thats the kind of shit that got most of germany behind hitler was red scares.
peak rover
being a nazi or Communits
autumn leaf
And youre falling for the same shit
peak rover
it a hard choose tbh
autumn leaf
....
One endgoal is genocide and whiping out all other races, the other is everyone being free of material need and peace. How they get there is different as you can see from history that the world isnt a vacuum
Neither has really seen that goal
peak rover
I am sorry did USSR not send people to freeze to death
Nazi isnt about wiping out other races
autumn leaf
@peak rover Stalin was communist he was a thug bitch
peak rover
and Hitler was a Fashist he was a thug too
but it really depends of what views your taught
autumn leaf
Or their actions
Like its not just what your taught
Im talking about actual socialism, not totalitarianism.
I dont fucking care about the USSR
It was a failed state the day the bolehivics (forgot how to spell it) came to power
peak rover
anyway I hate both so it really dont matter
peak rover
all political parts suck in one way or antother
autumn leaf
(Jk)
Yeah i can agree on that
🇦🇶
Im now a member of the Antarctica party
Under Lord Seal the III
And her highness Penguiees the 5th
analog pike
I want to have a fighter with pulsejets/normal jets, contraprops and variable sweep wing.
autumn leaf
Thats..interesting
analog pike
Propably IRL would be too loud and too expensive.
and... would have fly with grace of a brick
autumn leaf
Too mich stuff in a small plane
runic burrow
No worries it does look cool, and the only big design flaw i can see is that tiny elevator
autumn leaf
Variable wings are bulky
analog pike
Prpbly played too much Crimson Skies
autumn leaf
Heh yep
Wish the multiplayer was still a thing
Id pay for a remake with the detail and models of warthunder
autumn leaf
Instead of warships youd get to fly airships
But yeah theres a reason variable wings werent a thing till the 60s 70s because you have to make a big plane to house the mechanical components
Actually wait
@analog pike i jave a idea
autumn leaf
NIAI RK
analog pike
So, my design would be not too outlandish in sense of ww2 era
autumn leaf
Its abit small for all the stuff on it
But this is alot cooler
Way more dieselpunk
analog pike
NIAI RK-1, from what I read, Uncle Joe himself was very interested in this design
so, it was pretty unusual and okay design, but problem was with engine
M-106
that was... shitty
autumn leaf
And im ganna guess a new high speed friend to the head whe. the purges came. But yeah a better engine can be done
analog pike
In nutshell, NIAI was okay and had potential but... well, Joey wanted one of the worst Soviet aircraft engines to be put in.
Guy wanted to make it better, but accidentaly led this project to the end.
autumn leaf
Isnt that for everything he did?
autumn leaf
But yeah, this would be cool to do
lavish fox
@autumn leaf Hitler brought Germany out of the great depression with nationalism and war economy, like America, so at least there's that. Communism on the other hand brutally chased down and murdered the Tzar's family and all relatives, confiscated all businesses and land from the people and focused all development and funding to military, that's why you also see the Russian economy at the moment is shit and the people are poor.
Your failed ideology has also killed more than 100+ million people, don't believe me? Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes
I don't usually like to cite wikipedia as a source but I'm not really interested in wasting time arguing with you. It's not the best but at least it gives some combined information.
Another example right now is Hong Kong, as you might have noticed, the people there are holding American flags, not Soviet ones, as the government that's oppressing them is again, a product of your failed ideology. It's obvious people want less communism, not more. Meanwhile people such as yourself are sitting at your homes in wealthy western countries trying to turn them into the same shitholes these people are protesting and running from.
You're also contradicting your own words first calling yourself a communist and then saying you don't care about the USSR.
Lastly, I consider myself a moderate right-leaning person as I don't agree with many things on the conservative, alt-right and so forth side but I can tell you this, I am not a Nazi, even if I get called one a lot, , but if I've had past lives I have never, am not, and will never be, a communist.
autumn leaf
Oof i hit a nerve
And i wonder how Hitler got all those new jobs for Germany OH WAIT
lavish fox
Yeah you hit a nerve, that's why you're the one trying to talk to me in caps lock.
autumn leaf
@peak rover
peak rover
I wasnt talking about you
lavish fox
I am a he not a she.
peak rover
Dumb fuck
autumn leaf
Again, through genocide and conquest
peak rover
no Trisah is male Identifys as Femal
peak rover
so anythime gender is mentioned it thinks it a personal attack
autumn leaf
Welp blocking you two transphibic shits, byyye
peak rover
good
peak rover
like I said
peak rover
gender is mentioned see it as a personal attack
autumn leaf
@analog pike anyway, i think a warden plane with those type of wings would ve sweet and would fit the lore. Wardens are mostly in the mountains and would need planes with shorter take offs
atomic latch
Alright I hope the people above have cut it out and stopped
autumn leaf
This isnt the first time
atomic latch
I don’t care whose in the right or wrong, just don’t do it here , this is the channel of discussing art so take a step back next time or just report if u find things are going out of hand
left wind
Only thing I have cut out was my liver.
atomic latch
Trisha just drop it, send a mod mail report if you feel the need to. I would like to consider this topic dropped
analog pike
It's a H...
autumn leaf
Wheres the pulse engines?
analog pike
Those two things
between wings and fuselage
small, but can give considerable boost in speed
So, are camo and shadows on this looking good ?
@autumn leaf It can be easily said that this aircraft, after few modifications, could easily be carrier-borne one.
autumn leaf
The camo looks good, but what about range? A plane that small with counter rotating props and pulse engines will just gurgle fuel. Thats the problem with having both props and early jets is that you might have five minutes of flighttime but the engines might not give enough to justify it
Also
Theres a small problem if this is privit winged
analog pike
hmm... well I can always exchange contraprop for normal propellors
autumn leaf
Maybe
analog pike
that will decrease fuel consumption of this bastard
autumn leaf
But if the wings componits are going through the pulse engine they are ganna get really hot, warp and break
Maybe make it fixed winged, with one pulse engine strapped to the bottom
Then the body can be wider and carry more fuel
analog pike
or, second option, pulsejets will be 'locked' from turning on when this fighter will be pivit winged
autumn leaf
But then why have the swepted wings if you arnt going faster
And they would just be drag
This is the bitch of aircraft design
analog pike
or, maybe went another route
put pulsejet in the bottom, but let those things be something else
y know, maybe something linked to ability of this craft to have variable wing geometry
analog pike
What ?
autumn leaf
Pulsejets are extremely loud and rattle the bolts off of aircraft
analog pike
Tell that to ze germans
autumn leaf
They tried to make a pulse engine fighter but it almost tore itself apart in a 10 min flight and the pilot was deaf for a few hours later
Yeah you can
Have the intack under the plane lead to the back of the plane where the engine is
I could build a concept plane
analog pike
sure
autumn leaf
Alright ill get on it
analog pike
So, this is how it looks after making it a mixed-propulsion fighter
this one trick solved many problems
tame gorge
I guess it's not going to have a long range.
analog pike
Yep
It's like someone who made earlier fighters tried to make the same trick and add some new gimmicks to make it cooler
Like, general shape wants to be like this
but, thanks to those gimmies, it has nothing really to offer
tame gorge
Just high speed.
tame gorge
Another gadget to break.
analog pike
Even this fighter makes more sense than WW2 F-14-esque plane.
analog pike
And is it good ?
autumn leaf
The swepted wings do give a good boost but mechanically itd be a nightmare for ground crew and for the pilot if it failed. This is in the 40s right?
analog pike
somewhere around this period.
autumn leaf
Yep, would nsever see action
Imagin is a round hit a hydrolic line just as you were turning then suddenly one wing slids bqck
So yeah just prop and jet engine would do fine
Its the 1940s its not like youre trying to go the speed of sound
analog pike
So, sounds good on paper but... has some problems in real combat
autumn leaf
Yep
I like the other design
Good shape, room for fuel
This is one i just posted
left wind
Still WIP - Colonial LUV
autumn leaf
Nice!
analog pike
Good one
left wind
Eight hours later.
rocky tiger
starting new work
wintry cedar
@analog pike i can see some FW190 references
runic burrow
Question that i got looking at the split tail.
Did the soviets get trouble burning the tails of yak-23, mig-9s and similar jets with exhausts below the tail?
And are you moving up in time? Certainly looks like it
analog pike
@runic burrow Emm... idk
The second question is yes
rocky tiger
Maj. comment me to snipe some builder so that why i draw this
glad vale
You kill people for commends?
I could use a person like that, on a group with a red plus.
🤔
rocky tiger
🚑
glad vale
analog yoke
High class shit right there.
analog pike
Good night fellas
olive cove
Just saying this one more time, because some people still don't understand that this channel is meant art and discussing said art, not arguments about completely unrelated things. And please make sure to READ the pinned messages of the channel.
candid citrus
tame gorge
Last one.
left wind
Yeah last one's better imo
olive cove
I like the second to last
runic burrow
I prefer the last one overall, maybe make the coat even darker, the helmet though, i prefer the one from second or third
white snow
give the coat less blue
buoyant crest
I say the second; otherwise the palette is too dark for details
brazen grove
You can improve it
covert salmon
Final piece is complete
I decided to name this aircraft the Artilleryman bc I was listening to Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds during the creation of this drawing
And the final wahoo
I just realized how big the fighters are lol. That isn't a mistake in scaling, but rather a design oversight lol
Tbh, the bomber is a kitbashed DB-7B and Bf 162
faint egret
those fighters at that size would handle like buses
tbh i think there evan bigger than a P47 which is a very large plane and even that is only a good fighter if you have the energy advantage
covert salmon
Eh, bottom one is meant to take on the same role as the TA 152 as a high altitude interceptor
Middle one just ended up that way due to being based off of a large ass biplane
Like legit, tho, the bottom one is a mix of a Skoda Kauba V5 and a Blohm Und Voss BV 155
As well, size doesn’t matter that much for maneuverability. Turning rate is purely determined by speed and bank angle. Being able to get to such configurations however are a bit more complex, those have to do with lift, engine power, and g-limit. Sustainability ofc depends on energy retention.
high ledge
Why not biplanes or simpler designs?
Foxholes aesthetic is more interwar in nature than mid 1940s
I don't think energy fighters capable of 500 mph are exactly fitting in foxhole..
buoyant crest
I think gameplay wise turn fighters are the most valuable
that said, this is a parody
rancid carbon
Gladiator like planes are hella cool to me
buoyant crest
he is designing a line of planes from then to current day
rancid carbon
would be a good warden plane
tame gorge
Best plane in War Thunder. Excellent for dogfighting on high BR.
rancid carbon
lmao
tame gorge
P-26
nocturne void
but for real those things are deadly in game against pretty much every thing
well mostly other planes
rancid carbon
Except other planes*
nocturne void
yep
nocturne void
yeah
tame gorge
I don't know of this is the place for technical talk. But anyway.
How can I fit FMG in tankette? Any idea is good. Already thought of rotating it 90 degrees.
nova sedge
Dépend of the tankette model. Carven loyd,italien style or polish tankette?and to make a concept draw(digital or not) or a 3d model.
On carven loyd frame, i :think you can take inspiration from belgium early war T13.
@tame gorge
hasty patrol
help me improve my tank designs
analog pike
Sneaky repost. What can you comment on about this jet, lads ?
placid cipher
Try to put the wings straight, the forward wings are a matter of speed. To a low speed aircraft like that it would just reduce lift
Also, dont worry about that variation on the area of the fusellage, tou can do it straigth, that is also a matter of supersonic speeds, which definetly doesent matter there
I think with those changes it would fit more in foxhole
also I would change the jet engine for a conventional one
with propeller
digital geyser
@analog pike Love your fighters/heavy fighters, just wanted to say that.
Have you made any bombers?
peak oyster
@analog pike tail booms/fuselage spilt leading to tail booms are a bit thickened and don't need to have that bend in them, would make the inner mechanisms more complicated for the rudder and tail aeliron. The tail aeliron should probs be split and on the outside of the tail booms too, so it doesn't get in the way of the engine thrust at all
high ledge
@analog pike is that some kind of mounted gatling gun 🤔
high ledge
mmm noice
analog pike
but, really, it's just a jet interceptor
so...
why not mount a heckin' cannon in it ?
high ledge
peak oyster
Why not that 6 barrel AT rocket launcher thing the Germans mounted in plane noses?
analog pike
@peak oyster Well, not exactly
peak oyster
Wait
analog pike
It's mix of Messerschmitt aircraft that were never put into production, thanks to suicide of certain moustachitler
peak oyster
It doesnt have any air intakes?
Oh
Is it the coal fuelled fighters?
I love those two
analog pike
@peak oyster Intakes are those holes in the side of fuselages
peak oyster
Like fuel jets with coal
covert salmon
To respond to Maul's question, the middle one is a biplane, the bottom fighter is not supposed to be something seen in foxhole, rather, it is a post-Great War design
And the bomber is would be something that could be seen as late Great War or just after the Great War considering it is supposed to be an equivalent to the Douglas DB-7
rocky tiger
i mix 2 artsyle together
left wind
Working on buildings.
buoyant crest
cute!
left wind
Why thank you
left wind
Finished product.
half spear
@rocky tiger BD on that art yo
rocky tiger
what's mean BD
glad vale
Blueray disc?
left wind
Big Deal
rocky tiger
so far so good
tame gorge
Yup. Don't you think those legs are a itty bitty too long?
tame gorge
Tried to compare them to arms? @high ledge
high ledge
look nice doe
high ledge
i mean it really depends on what style they’re going for
if realistic, then yeah, legs are too long
but if you’re going for a more cartoonish style, then it looks fine
jade fable
More details on a previous drawing i had its Boone from Fallout New Vegas except he is in foxhole
umbral topaz
hi guys, since my AC apeared in the devstream i wanted to show you what i am working on now.
buoyant crest
is it a reimbodyment of god?
buoyant crest
I said god, not warden scum
glad vale
Yeah I know
buoyant crest
god would have forgiven my spelling error
buoyant crest
wine is jucky
umbral topaz
lets see if you find out what vehicle is
buoyant crest
But then again, I dont think you should play drinking games with anything above 8promillage
glad vale
Harvester
left wind
Want to know what else's yucky?
My attempt to make a Collie half-track* from scratch
glad vale
umbral topaz
wow that was fast
glad vale
@umbral topaz here’s how I guessed it
I was gonna ask you to make a harvester next and was picturing it in my mind.
And then boom, it appeared halfway finished before my eyes and I immediately knew.
buoyant crest
I would have said either harvester or the flatbed realmaybe, but the arm in the back would have turned me to harvester definitely
buoyant crest
which means you are doing a good job if people can already recognise it @umbral topaz
umbral topaz
thanks, i am really glad you like it
i know some people asked for tanks, or the colonial AC, but i choose the harvester, first because is a non faction vehicle, and second, i am usually do logi so i wanted to build something i more used to use in game
autumn leaf
@umbral topaz where can i do this lego thing
left wind
lego digital designer?
autumn leaf
Is it free
left wind
also that
blissful heath
run by Bricklinks, who sell bricks
left wind
Alright, listen. I'm not the first one to make grass tiles. I'm way too late to that party.
umbral topaz
@autumn leaf also stud.io allows you to make arender of you models so the look real
here are the links for both programs
autumn leaf
@umbral topaz can you pm them
cerulean anvil
WIP here.
I still didn't decide if I should give him full clothes or just simple ones.
somber vapor
What is that
cerulean anvil
A rabbitman?
rocky tiger
That foot like lion foot
hasty patrol
made tiger looking thing
high ledge
Toger
cedar pelican
I wish they add tanks like the tiger
high ledge
Flood mk2?
umbral agate
Terrento is a furry?
patent jetty
Apparently yes
high ledge
Flood mk2 uses ideas from the tiger 1 for its turret
remote lynx
Toger
Tigor
left wind
tonger
peak oyster
Toger
patent jetty
Tingor
tame gorge
Tigger.
rocky tiger
Yay those legs
glad vale
I wish I invested more time in drawing than video editing. 😅
left wind
The only thing I both love and hate about the Colonials.
The effing AC, good lord
gloomy lodge
Metal bawkses
left wind
More like metal speed coffin
glad vale
That boy is thicc.
left wind
Wanna know what else's thiccer? H5
left wind
Literally bigger than the battle tank
glad vale
Let me show you
left wind
Shortening the back as in?
left wind
Was gonna shorten it anyways
wait I just realized the back's on the same level
ffs why did I divide it into two
glad vale
Adding in more details like this may help make it more visually appealing.
left wind
That's what I plan to do
glad vale
👌
left wind
Add more detail to vehicles and whatnot
glad vale
Just trying to give helpful criticism.
left wind
though it'll be a little tough
aight
trying to put detail on a small-sized vehicle is probably gonna be the last thing i'd do before driving off into the landmines with the car
glad vale
Well, its all trial and error.
You’re merely teaching yourself how to get better at learning.
With the small added bonus of getting better at drawing.
left wind
I've been doing this for months now. Only got back recently to sprite editing.
Well, not really months, more like a full-year.
left wind
True.
glad vale
Well, goodluck on your sprites. 👋
snow vessel
@rocky tiger Its awesome!
rocky tiger
thanks
rocky tiger
look nice
left wind
Final product
tame gorge
Hurts my eyes just like original one. Great job! Seriously.
glad vale
I was tired of everybody mistaking me for Terran Marine, so here is an identification chart for those who just don't get the idea of things.
gloomy lodge
Ultramarine
blissful heath
if it makes you feel better I've never heard of Terran Marine
blissful heath
Nope
He looks like a noot
and noots are cancer so I assume he is cancer by association
high ledge
@left wind dang that's really good
makes me want a foxhole spinoff in metal slug style
wind jackal
Wanted to show my art but realized I only really have one thing that even kinda matches the era/style of Foxhole... so here's my submission for Sketchfabs Spitfire texture contest https://skfb.ly/6NELJ
odd berry
covert salmon
Another addition to the Caovair roster is being worked on
This is gonna a relatively whacky piece of techoscrewery, but not the maddest I have planned
buoyant crest
aw lawd he coming! @left wind
patent jetty
Blyat-34
high ledge
Som ships I drew at skool
snow vessel
Cool
left wind
good lookin' lantern
left wind
Final product
glad vale
Man that is vibing metal slug
left wind
It is, but at the same time it isn't
glad vale
@left wind you should make a variation of this
But change the colors and the helmets to the Wardens and Colonials
I’m sure plenty would appreciate a look as such.
But you’re the artist here.
left wind
Will do. Just hafta find a decent sprite sheet.
glad vale
👍
left wind
Also, just gonna post this to show what I was gonna do underneath the bar - ohwell
rancid carbon
Foxhole: Three Nations- A tactical rpg that follows the fate of Velian, Caoivish, and Nevish students at the officer academy of Stema Mach, a fortress built from the monastery of Stema’s Landing.
Go blue eagles lmao
peak oyster
Do the Aether users cast gun
peak oyster
Do higher level Aether casters just get progressively bigger and bigger versions of the gun spell
It's the same gun though
Just bigger
worldly flax
@peak rover @lavish fox upon scrolling up far I come to conclusion that it is not the internet and e-books that killed libraries, it's the people getting more dumb by not reading books at all.
buoyant crest
you realize they both got muted, right?
patent jetty
Lmfao
worldly flax
Yeah I do, I'm not expecting them to say anything in return though?
patent jetty
buoyant crest
are you trying to start a non-art related discussion? 🔨
icy bronze
some boats and planes I drew
left wind
i take it you were bored during your math class
icy bronze
history of architecture, but close enough
left wind
understandable
left wind
Been working on this bugger for like five hours now, and it's still incomplete, good effing lord
icy bronze
small scale pixel art is hard
left wind
Yeah, especially if you want to make AW sprites
good lord it's some tough nuts
though it gets less tough when y'listen to something - especially €beat
left wind
Finished product.
Oh, and in addition to that, I made custom binoc units. That took me less time than making the goddamn bikes.
rocky tiger
am not gonna finish this
patent jetty
cool art
elder tulip
left wind
i guess that could work
obtuse musk
That's good. And does fit the warden aesthetic
tame gorge
Looks little like Catalina.
analog pike
Pumped up
tame gorge
Does it have bomb bay or just mounts on wings?
analog pike
Well, it can have bomb bay and mounts
tame gorge
This seems nice.
Catalina is top tier.
Why put 12 7mms on fighter?
Twelve 7mms!
They drinks fermented tea or something?
I main US tree. Feels painfull.
Lemme see.
analog pike
Yesss
tame gorge
Those things that plane swims on. Little too close to main hull. I think.
Just look at it.
analog pike
Even moar
analog pike
This whole plane is meant as a big honkin' gunship/bomber
so...
yeah
pack as many guns as possible
analog pike
That one below, but with slower rate of fire and ability to actually rotate that thing
nocturne void
so like an ac-130 but with alot more guns