art-discussion

[peak oyster]

For this

Because the panzerfausts need to hit directly

[analog pike]

also, for some unknown to me reason, Half-Tracks from our world were better at, well, transporting people

[buoyant crest]

@lavish fox Never meantioned about your knowledge (or it must've been a typo of mine) but rather was venting about the general knowlegde. That being said, I don't have a biasness to infantry, but I am a realist and tanks arent as holy as some people pretend they are.

[analog pike]

also

Devitt has obvious weak spots

just look at this shit

[peak oyster]

Foxhole hts are combat vehicles

Not transports

Like the sdkfz 250

[analog pike]

but then, sdkfzs were able to carry more asses than our HTs

[peak oyster]

Not all the variants of the 250 and 251

[analog pike]

I know

[peak oyster]

But yeah

I was thinking the AA 250 and stuff like that

[analog pike]

I mean, Foxhole tanks have sometimes good armor, but have weakpoints that would be really easily exploited in IRL

[peak oyster]

reloads ATR with malicious intent

Cheist

*christ

Foxhole ATRs could kill fucking tigers

[analog pike]

but then suddenly, airplanes

[peak oyster]

Yeah

[analog pike]

and lottsa infantry-carried anti-tanks

[peak oyster]

From what I've gathered on the in game wrecks, they had wing root mounted mga

*mgs

[analog pike]

who wins ?

[peak oyster]

The side with functioning planea

Against AAless armies

[analog pike]

Big motherinfockin' tonk or a freezing German with some odd over-sized sticky hid in ruins

[regal kindle]

@lavish fox are you sure about that?

Btw my great grandfather was a tanker too

[peak oyster]

My great uncle was a war room peep and somewhere in my dad's house there's a bunch of models they used in the war room @lavish fox

Plus he was the guy who figured out that the A10 could be used against tanks with the vulcan

So going off of ancestors I think I win

[remote lynx]

That's why anybody that takes interest in tanks chooses BTs even if they're an absolute bitch to maintain, especially after .26.Too bad the BT is too complex to make on your own and I don't have a full clan to back me on making and crewing a tank. Not to mention keeping it fed.

[peak oyster]

I was in an op that had a BT

Fuckwr ran out of fuel every 100 meters or so

We all had to carry spare fuel if we didn't need the slots

[remote lynx]

I'm the last person they'd let near a BT. I don't wear my clan tag ingame because I'd need to change my steam name.

Seperate clan tags when

[peak oyster]

When the Devs get round to it I guess

[remote lynx]

We might get planes before clan tags lol

[peak oyster]

Jesus

That's a scary though

T

[remote lynx]

Before .26 I used to be able to crew a LT by building one myself.

[peak oyster]

So you mean 1 Manning it?

[remote lynx]

I mean building it, taking the driver spot and then going around looking for a gunner and commander

[peak oyster]

Huh

[remote lynx]

Nobody's going to suddenly ask me if I want to be a tank crewman

[peak oyster]

Colonial role overwrites warden role

War winner revealed ?!!?!?one?1!?1

[buoyant crest]

^

[remote lynx]

And then after about 2-3 hours of tanking, I leave the tank I built on my own in the hands of the gunner and the commander and never hear from it again.

"Hey, what happened to my tank?"
"The replacement driver drove it onto a landmine."

Now I'm just waiting on a vehicle that's easier and cheaper than a LT that I can build solo and crew.

[peak oyster]

Relics were great for that

[remote lynx]

Something like an AC with a gun that's actually useful

[Insert AC with 20mm autocannon here]

[peak oyster]

Finding a storm tank, basically?

[remote lynx]

No

[peak oyster]

Oh

[remote lynx]

not plinky 7.92mm

20.0mm

[peak oyster]

Th

The storm tank has a 37

Or a 40mm actually

Cos it is warden

[remote lynx]

Sorta, but less

[peak oyster]

And wardens use a 40mm

I think 20mms are too

Powerful

For foxhole

Because they'd anhiliate other vehicles

And be good anti infantry weapons

[remote lynx]

What would you put on an AC that makes it more than just an FMG on wheels?

[peak oyster]

:)

A 75

[remote lynx]

I have a picture for that, but not on this laptop

[peak oyster]

I think putting the 75 on the top and middle and adding a trenching ramp would work

[remote lynx]

It's a turretless AC with the Field Artillery squeezed in

:^)

[peak oyster]

Since it would just rock backwards and tilt forwards again

Nice

[remote lynx]

Ever seen the Pakwagen?

[regal kindle]

Well

[peak oyster]

Ye

[regal kindle]

Defending lts

They are based on a especific role

[lavish fox]

@buoyant crest They are not holy, and if you're realist you'd figure out by now that there is absolutely nothing holy in this world, like at all. If anything it deserves to burn in holy fire.

@regal kindle Google for Siege of Vraks, Arch Warhammer made an epic internet series of it until recently spanning more than 6 months and over 30 or something videos and only has about 10 or so videos on the War of Armageddon.

@peak oyster I have no interest in a dick measuring contest of ancestors, I only mentioned that since my dad was a tank commander he sparked my interest in tanks. Nowhere did I say that since he was one that I'm automatically an expert in all things tanks, that's just completely your own assumption.

[regal kindle]

Infantry support and recon

Its like telling me that a stuart is shit because you cant kill a tiger with it

[peak oyster]

@lavish fox DW dude, I know I won

And you can kill a tiger with a Stuart @regal kindle

[lavish fox]

Whatever.

[buoyant crest]

ahahahahahahahahaha

[lavish fox]

I can't be bothered to argue with weird Europeans on the internet.

[regal kindle]

@lavish fox i know about arch, he is one of my fav youtubers, and i do followed his vraks series

[lavish fox]

It's like talking to a wall.

[buoyant crest]

someone is t r i g g e r e d

[remote lynx]

Its like telling me that a stuart is shit because you cant kill a tiger with itI like the Stuart, but it's become hella difficult to get your hands on one in Foxhole and keep it fed.

[regal kindle]

He did the same for the war or armaggedon

[lavish fox]

Yep, like talking to a wall.

[regal kindle]

Im not european though

[buoyant crest]

@remote lynx yeah, most people now adays are called jeff or geoff

[peak oyster]

@regal kindle I am, dw

[remote lynx]

What

[peak oyster]

He was talking to me

[buoyant crest]

@remote lynx issa joke with names

even worse than my word jokes

[remote lynx]

I'll take your word for it

[regal kindle]

@peak oyster srry m8, though he was talking to me about the 40k stuff

[peak oyster]

@regal kindle 👍

[buoyant crest]

also, I dont see being european has to do anything with this? Is it that his pride makes him unable to see clearly and waters down any discussion to "I am from the land of free, the country with a broken democracy and the largest amount of prisoners, so many I have to lend jail space from other countries"?

[peak oyster]

Don't worry, Europe's doing just as much fucked up shit as america

[buoyant crest]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

at least we are honest about it

I am proud of my country despite its failures, but that doesnt mean I will pretend they dont exist and get mad of every mention about it, hehehehehehe

[peak oyster]

That, I feel, is the correct way to look at it

[regal kindle]

Anyone here plays war thunder?

[remote lynx]

o/

[peak oyster]

I do occasionally

But not as much as I used to

[regal kindle]

Pass me your steam id guys

[lavish fox]

Nah, I love my Germans too much to have to argue over who saved who's ass in Greece in game with ya.

[brazen grove]

eh

[analog pike]

Foxhole: The New Order has came back !

[analog pike]

Oh shiet, here we go again

your thoughts about that meme ?

[patent jetty]

Wrong - we have big balls

-1/10

[autumn leaf]

So i was thinking of drawing a person but idk, i suck at it and landscapes

[orchid tulip]

Partisan/Resistance uniform concept

[high ledge]

now thats a man that buries his neighbour in the backyard with a proud smile on his face

[brazen grove]

Hahaha the mustache makes it even better

[autumn leaf]

So im guessing i need to start over?

[true hearth]

@analog pike I appreciate the Dick Kickem inserted in it

and overall it's pretty slappin' as a meme and art

[high ledge]

@autumn leaf it would be best if you scuttled this attempt and started a new one. it would also be very helpful if there are multiple layers (1 for the sky, 1 for the ground and 1 for the soldier). also this video helped me a lot with making fields https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vPrGjccH4

[remote lynx]

@analog pike

[pallid tangle]

7 sad hours

[high ledge]

i have... several question

[willow remnant]

My first try with manga frames

[analog pike]

smoll gun

not big enough

not enuff dakka

[lavish fox]

when her feet are covered

Mhm I mean, uhhh, is that a 20mm gun or something?

[willow remnant]

it's this

a relic from oldest maj's

if you are new you probably don't know

[fervent socket]

?praise is true nart

Art

[analog pike]

@willow remnant I know that's AFT (aka relic AC), but still, you could make turret bigger

for fitting in a proper cannon

@remote lynx Tsk tsk tsk

[willow remnant]

it's not a canon it's a machigun

look at the scale the turret is small compare to the entire vehicle

[analog pike]

@willow remnant Guy, you don't understand me. I said, that if you made turret larger, than you can fit in a cannon

[willow remnant]

oookkk

[remote lynx]

@analog pike better

[willow remnant]

someone can say to me wich shadows are the best ?

[high ledge]

i like the 1st one

[wet vigil]

what's the diffrence

[willow remnant]

this area it's the reason

if you take the 1st one I think it's not possible for the shadow to be like this when this piece of metal is connected like that to the turret

[wet vigil]

oh

then i think the 3rd one is the most realistic

[willow remnant]

yeah I think that too

I think it's done

[orchid tulip]

Warden Navy Marine sketch

[swift knoll]

I approve! @orchid tulip

[analog pike]

Frankengun made from bits of Lahti-Saloranta, Madsen, Stgw.57, MG 39 Rh and Charlton Automatic Rifle, with some few original additions.

Your thoughts guys ?

[analog pike]

Frankengun on colour.

[buoyant crest]

I remember when I made guns back in the days

jesus did that cost a lot of hours to make some people stfu

should get back into it sometime

[analog pike]

I made in a while

to make it even funnier

[orchid tulip]

Colonial Light Infantry sketch
(based off of the Spanish Legion uniform)

[patent jetty]

👍

@orchid tulip nice sketches, lad. I've seen that you posed some here and they are very good!

[regal kindle]

legionario legionario

que te entregas a luchar

y al azar dejas tu suerte

pues tu vida es un azar

legionario legionario

de bravura sin igual

si en la guerra hallas la muerte

seras siempre consulario

legionariooooo

[glad vale]

#486379601468194846

[regal kindle]

la bandera nacional
legionarios a luchar
legionarios a morir

@glad vale you did not understand the reference

[glad vale]

No, most things fly right over my head.

[regal kindle]

I put a stanza of the spanish legionaire song as a reference to the colonial light infantry sketch up there

[glad vale]

You should’ve started with the english part first, explaining what it is

[regal kindle]

I was going to put it in the end but you arrived before hand though

[glad vale]

Sorry.

[regal kindle]

No problem m8

[vague dust]

Warden 2-8-0 "Pegasus" steam locomotive

[remote lynx]

jesus did that cost a lot of hours to make some people stfudon't get me started again

[vague dust]

Warden 2-8-0 Pegasus locomotive

[runic burrow]

That is pretty nice looking. Have you made a colonial one?

[toxic tartan]

🤔 collie art is rare my dude

[runic burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/406130138334625799/606265983560056853/Colonial_2-8-0_Pack_Mule_steam_locomotive.jpg?width=854&height=641

Actually he did

[near folio]

oh shit, nice

[vague dust]

The Colonial was done first, almost a year ago.

[near folio]

looks fantastic, both of em

[vague dust]

Though I will say the Pack Mule would be taller than Pegasus.

[willow remnant]

@orchid tulip do you think you can made tank crew sketches ?

[brazen grove]

All aboard the awesome train

[sullen nova]

I tried updating the old meme with the new salvage sadly my free tools are refusing to show me where skeleton would be with a pixel location else i would've placed him better. All done with 3D Paint and some google

[analog pike]

Aiedan Willem Phadrik bho Thaigh na Straigh-Kohlhausen - Field Marshal of Caovian Army, Chief of Warden State

[autumn leaf]

How much do you want to bet that the Collie steam engine will look fine qhile the warden one is a abomination in train design?

[ebon flare]

You're on!

And I'm counting on it.

[autumn leaf]

5 bucks?

That doesnt count, thats a toy

[ebon flare]

I'll bet a crisp high-five.

Also breaking news: A photo of a new Warden War Machine has just arrived! (this is just a meme, pls don't take this seriously)

[pallid tangle]

oWO

[analog pike]

@ebon flare
Field Marshal Straigh-Kohlhausen approves

[wet vigil]

when somebody near your fuel truck

[gloomy lodge]

[high ledge]

i can imagine a hulk hogan voice yellin: goddamn greenies, taken ma gard damn OIL! yee better get of ma lawn brother or ill fill you with so many holes the battle of verdun will look like a babies ass cheek.

[olive cove]

@high ledge he ain't a warden tho

[wet vigil]

shuuu @olive cove you will blow my cover

[analog pike]

Semi-autos are always cool

with optional bolt-action

yes, this is 7.62 (like in rifles) cavalry carbine

[buoyant crest]

I get the Mud and Blood 2 feel from this

man, that was an epic game

[analog pike]

The Adobe Flash Gang boi above me

[glad vale]

Where the hell is the bayonet at, it's like 90% away from beautiful completion.

@analog pike fix this

[analog pike]

@glad vale It looks like SKS, so yeah, I'll fix this boi

[glad vale]

Great

[peak rover]

Pistol carbines drawn by konrod coloured by Padfoot

[toxic tartan]

one moment pad

boop

[peak rover]

@toxic tartan imagine these ingame

[toxic tartan]

they were really only good for pilots tho

woops

[peak rover]

Nah

Medic
Engineers
Logistics
Vehicle crews

[toxic tartan]

they were made cause carbines were still to big to fit inside of planes

medics liked large cal weps so the revolvers engineers actually didnt care to much for large fancy weapons they had the grunts for that logi likes machineguns and vehicle crews used carbines

the reason for all of these were literally based upon the convenience of there selections

but in game most medics use revolvers

[peak rover]

Yes but in our game

[toxic tartan]

engys uses shottys

cause then people dont try running up on em

logi uses rifles cause they work

and vehicle crews generally should never leave the damn vehicle

[peak rover]

Yes but they can’t quickly equip and draw them

[toxic tartan]

if your in that situation then your either 1 fucked or 2 double fucked

[peak rover]

Kk

[toxic tartan]

the guy who sees who first generally wins

[peak rover]

Not always

[toxic tartan]

yup but most fights go to the first one to land the hit

@peak rover

but this is a thing

[peak rover]

Revolver carbine

[toxic tartan]

yup

a kinda rifle sized secondary for medics

but cant see past his window like the revolver just with more accuracy

so less missing

[peak rover]

Hmmm

My pistol carbine was supposed to use 2 9mm mags giving the user more accurately and a slightly better magazine size of 16 shots

[toxic tartan]

yea peeps tend to not use the standard pistol tho because in the time it takes for you to down the enemy rifleman hes put 2 shots in you

hence the dance when using a pistol

just not enough damage uk

how bout this

[nocturne void]

i would actually like to see that used in game

[toxic tartan]

they were a thing well kinda it was the Kampfpistole which was a flare gun with shaped charges

but same would love to see a anti tank pistol

[analog pike]

FoxholexWWII crossover #1

thoughts ?

[vague dust]

French Army meeting Warden Army? Well this is awkward.

And then Americans/British meets Colonial Army.

[toxic tartan]

🤔

[brazen grove]

Pistol carbines are great

[peak rover]

^ I like them too but people think they will be useless

[nocturne void]

@peak rover its a great idea it's just the carbine is generally better that the pistol carbine.

[vague dust]

Though they'll consume double pistol ammo because extended mags.

[cerulean anvil]

I like these! Especially the second one.

[wet vigil]

Classy as always mr @olive cove

[final forge]

1st pic is the new SOM mascot

[olive cove]

Thanks

[brazen grove]

The beard i love it

[analog pike]

somebody has blank map of Caovia ?

[peak rover]

1 min

@analog pike

this any good

[analog pike]

@peak rover Ehh... thank you, but this is not I wanted

[peak rover]

sorry

[analog pike]

But thank you again

@patent jetty, do you have that map ?

[somber vapor]

@analog pike this?

[analog pike]

Nah, I meant blank, for editing

[somber vapor]

Oh ok

[patent jetty]

Ah

Ye, sure

[pallid tangle]

big combine monster thing i did

[wet vigil]

is that?

PoTaTo MaN?

[brazen grove]

lol x)

[high ledge]

so ive been trying out types of mud. i feel like this feels the best for the tracks. what do you guys think?

[autumn leaf]

Nice

But the tracks would go all the way to the horizon

[patent jetty]

@high ledge also, don't forget about the entry hole of the projectile.

good art btw

[gloomy lodge]

[patent jetty]

don't you give me the koni

[gloomy lodge]

[peak oyster]

[patent jetty]

all people who give me the "" are gay

[rancid carbon]

[gloomy lodge]

[buoyant crest]

Me drawing a varity of eyes with an old ball point; reminder for all the slackers to keep practicing; it is useful for when you have an art block and improves your general art

[peak oyster]

@patent jetty

[wet vigil]

empress Callahan and scepter of Suns haven

[icy bronze]

that's heresy

the best kind of heresy

[autumn leaf]

I dont think the sybol should be branished like that. Its the stbol of the army, not the king

Maybe a bird instead

[wet vigil]

Too late XD

[gloomy lodge]

Yes

The IoM Aquila

[wheat prawn]

check out my motion tracked minecraft thing

[white snow]

is that minecraft earth

[bleak sandal]

woah

[high ledge]

https://twitter.com/Psyk323/status/1158482329884680199
Foxhole: Automata when?

Psyk323 (@Psyk323)

Concept art for the Blue army in my 404 robot project.

#gynoid #android #robotgirl #robot #bot #scifi #future #ガイノイド #mech #mecha #robogirl #army

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[pallid tangle]

those are some thic girls

owo

[high ledge]

Thicc girls and thicc tank is what foxhole needs. :^)

[brazen grove]

Soon.

[analog pike]

Cartoony-looking overgrown tanks... where I saw that one before...

[high ledge]

Yuck tank

But kinda nice the longer you look

[pallid tangle]

Metal slug

METAL SLUG

[brazen grove]

uh huh

[wet vigil]

Maro's brigade

[gloomy lodge]

That SMG looks noice

[nocturne void]

Im pretty sure that's supposed to be a carbine

or rifle

[wet vigil]

to be fair i don't really know ether

[nocturne void]

well what did you take inspiration from to make the gun

[wet vigil]

first i look at AK74 but it's too compiticate for me

then i look for UMP

but i'm a half ass so i can't draw for shit

XD

[nocturne void]

what that looks amazing to me

[wet vigil]

almost done btw

[nocturne void]

ok

[storm girder]

Mmmmm.... Meh. Just threw this together, could've made the warden better... But.. Eeh... Meh.

[buoyant crest]

interesting combination of styles

[patent jetty]

[regal kindle]

@wet vigil hey m8, will you someday release the coloured version of the colonial soldier with the green trenchcoat?

Its for a research

[wet vigil]

If I finish it yes

[regal kindle]

YES

[flint leaf]

big wip

[final forge]

stilt rat

[rancid carbon]

Yar har fiddle dee dee

Reminds me of a pirate ship lel

[brazen grove]

what is that thing?

[patent jetty]

It's some furry bullshit

[wet vigil]

i want to know too but it's better not to ask

[ember oasis]

I think that’s best

[cerulean anvil]

It's a yinglet.

A weird animal.

[brazen grove]

do i need to bring out the .308??

im confused

[wet vigil]

no

[cerulean anvil]

Maybe.

[wet vigil]

Not yet

you know what forget it

Grab the fifty

[rocky tiger]

Me didn't done with Request

[rocky tiger]

[Patrol Motorcycle]

[glad vale]

Man I remember gate jumping with a bike

Those were the days.

@rocky tiger I appreciate the unique art style.

[rocky tiger]

Thanks

[rocky tiger]

Here is inspiration

[daring ferry]

The famous German engineering

[lavish fox]

@daring ferry No, that's their tanks where they had a bigger kill to death ratio to any other nation during the war.

[solar fiber]

havent been here in a year

how's it going

[runic burrow]

A. tanker starts a WW2 discussion every other day, and we have less propaganda and more artwork. But that's about it

[remote lynx]

Not in a place or time to participate in said discussion sadly

[peak rover]

Attempting to draw snek

[viscid haven]

Hey I know you! Also, this drawing has very defined lines mate, good job

[lyric wyvern]

Gonna add more detail to the Warden a bit later.

[willow remnant]

Good I prefer the right one

[brazen grove]

cool pixel art

[orchid tulip]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3zd1f9/what_was_the_actual_kd_ratio_of_german_ww2_armor/

[green igloo]

Who needs studies, you just need to believe 😄

[lavish fox]

Oh yeah, let's believe losers on reddit that act like history teachers. No thanks. Look up how effective the Tiger was video by military history visualized. He has in detail graphs of each Battalion's kill to death ratio and it's 6 something on average which is pretty good if you ask me. I don't know about the other tanks nor do I really care, I also remember that the StuG also had a very good k/d but can't really back it up right now.

Additionally you could search for the amount of killed and dead on the German side during WW2 and the same for the American side in Vietnam, same war people say we lost while having 10 Vietnam fuckers die for everyone of our boys.

Call me a wehrboo all you want, but the Germans were highly professional soldiers, maybe not after 1943 when I read about the lack of morale and discipline , but they still kept fighting on and giving the Allies, and especially the Soviets hell. But they had their operational and organizational flaws, that just needs to be said. Also Prussian pride was something that fucked them up as well.

[brazen grove]

ok

[lavish fox]

Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0JF23VIimg

He does his search well and goes into detail.

Doesn't save anything or have any bias towards anybody.

[gloomy lodge]

Love watching his videos

[blissful heath]

and there goes another art discussion lost to military discussion

[high ledge]

oh yeah, mil histroy visualized makes amazing videos

[lavish fox]

Well kids wanna be edgy teenagers and play military historian online, I provide proof of what I speak.

[orchid tulip]

MHV is good.
TIK's discussion on tanks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYeNFj4KUrQ

[high ledge]

sTonks

[orchid tulip]

tinky-tonks!

[lavish fox]

I think most people just skip out on the crew training and skill, German tank crews, especially at the beginning of the war, were trained rigorously, while Soviet tank crews were mostly sent out and thought they'd learn on the way and be fine which was not the case and the great losses of T-34s prove this, add to the fact that they had 4 man crews, thus limiting their combat capabilities because the commander needed to aim and fire the gun instead of command the crew and sight targets.

But overall I think that if you ask every historian you know, they'd probably cite German tanks being the best during the war overall.

[orchid tulip]

poor Panzer IV, gets overshadowed by the Kittens

[lavish fox]

This would have been good: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/e9/59/56e9594b1409ba6bf44f67a878eb981a.jpg

Sloped armor, same 75mm gun, armored skirts, infrared scopes.

Problem is the Panzer IV was getting outdated by 1943.

The armored skirts were already pushing the chassis and engine weight limit.

I think this was the Panzer III/IV project but it never saw the same light of day.

And here's the German variant of an improved T-34: https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/1/8/7/142187-15655-80-720.jpg

Same Panther long barreled 75mm gun, increased same sloped armor of the T-34, diesel engine, King Tiger "Porsche" (prototype) style turret, problem is it was a bit cramped but 3 man.

Rollers are at the back like on the T-34.

Better optics.

It was made by Daimler Benz as a proposal for the Panther project but the MAN one got chosen because it used already standard German production methods, same engine as on the Tiger, sort of the same suspension system and a turret for an earlier Tiger prototype. The DB one required the engine and turret be built from scratch thus meaning they needed new production lines and that would slow production but it was simpler, cheaper and weighted less, thus being more reliable. Albert Speer was even betting on this getting chosen and he recommended it to Hitler but in the end MAN got chosen due to the circumstances of needing to go faster into production.

[high ledge]

@lavish fox you seem to be one of the more tank informed people so instead of DMing you imma ask here. why didnt the germans do something like in the picture im about to upload with theyre older tanks such as the pnz 3, pnz 4 and tiger in late war. basicaly, instead of uping the armor on the existing tanks which have boxy design with little to no angles, why didnt they decreas the armor values of the main armor and add thicc armor blocks on the outside serving as main defence. i know the pnz 3 had its 20mm plates, but they were also at a 90 degree angle. most obvious cause why this wasnt the deal to me is either the outside blocks would be too heavy for whats holding them to bare (especialy when hit by a high calibar shell) and that its too compicated for what its worth

[buoyant crest]

what is up with art discussion and tanks

[buoyant crest]

That being said, Imma involve myself; @high ledge A reason why germans used the boxy design over the sloped design was that Germany valued maintainability and reparability; the boxy design allowed for easier access to drive train components while not exposing an access-plate/hatch (which could easily spall/break if hit). Another reason is some practicality; having a flat superstructure for your drivers view port and other stuff is cheaper and easier to make. Lastly, counter-intuitive, sloped armour isnt necessary lighter for the same amount of protection (although it could be more effective under some conditions).

[sorry for small size, didnt expect the proof to be this big]

(1) A simple example of a boxy design with a sloped design superexposed on it; The height of the armour is 3000 mm and the debt is 4000mm. The boxy design has a flate plate of 100mm thick and a thinner sloped plate to get the debt. The sloped plate just goes directly to the front of the tank. It is to note that both designs have an effective armour of 100mm over the full profile (35mm at 20.5 deg is 100mm, and 60mm at 36.9deg is 100 as well).

(2) by multiplying the thickness of the plates by their length, you get a cut-through surface (which times the width of the vehicle would give a volume, from which you calculate the mass). As you can see, via using pythagoras, you get that the difference in surface is 440mm between the designs (less than 0.2%, not even 2%, 0.2). That is in favour of the boxy design btw, as I didn't calculate the surface of the small triangle between the two armour plates; doing so would make it the full 300 000mm^2 as well. Now I hear you think, what kind of sorcery is this? of to number 3 we go.

(3) Hopefully you remember your X, Y and Z's in math, because this is gonna be a ride. We take height Y and thickness X; The flat plate gives XY as surface. Now if we keep the thickness of the plate X, but move the bottom line along the x-axis? The surface stays XY (here calculated by using X+Z as full width of a square, subtracting two straight triangles of 1/2XY). You can also view this as infinitly many plates of X thick and dY high, which regardless of their position will make the same surface, which can be that sloped plate, or a circle or whatever for that matter. As third drawing, I have an example of the sloped armour "tiger"-style, which ofcourse ended up with a surface of X*Y.

I know the 3 paper would have been sufficient for the proof, but I just want to flex OK?

That being said, fully sloped armour does have its advantages over box armour ofcourse; for example, if the sides are also sloped, you can spare some weight there. It also has less welds/mounting points that can break, and bounces are more effective on a fully flat surface as the lower plate of the box armour would just ricochet into the flat upper plate. For the small sloped used on WWII tanks, it wasnt very much an advantage outside of these points, and it only started to matter in Cold War designs when the hulls became way lower and longer, enabling a fully sloped plate at like 30~20 degrees, which is around the limit shells are gonna bounce off instantly assuming your armour doesn't bend under the vibrations.

And now BASTA with these tank discussions.

TL;DR: sloped armour has it advantages nowadays, but boxy armour isnt as bad most people think (e.g. it isnt heavier for the same protection). It in fact has advantages over it at some points. I flex some with my engineering drawing. Now stop with all the tank talk.

[lavish fox]

Turtle explains it pretty well and in detail. Most simple explanation I could give was that Germany used the box on treads design, easy of manufacture and repair as mentioned, and it worked earlier in the war so they continued until the Tiger, which was in development alongside the Panther before the Eastern Front but because of the meeting with the T-34 they changed drastically.

They also kept churning out improved designs afterwards so that's why they didn't go back to the drawing board with the old designs like the Panzer III, IV and the Tiger I suppose. Generation 1 was the Panzer I and II, Generation 2 was Panzer III and IV, Generation 3 was Tiger 1 and Panther, Generation 4 was the King Tiger and supposedly the Lowë which was then abandoned to build the Maus for some stupid reason.

There were also experiments with sloped armor: https://forum.warthunder.com/uploads/monthly_2016_10/1390682_734531773228839_462795290_n.jpg.73ad666f376ae24523f83c10931cead5.jpg

But never implemented for one reason or another.

And here's what you were describing: http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/19/e6f74873d8914a528b479459f0aeaf31edfdcc_mq/tiger_d_wip2_by_giganaut-d6eavpo.jpg

I personally would have went back and gone with the VK3002 (Daimler Benz improved T-34 Panther), Panzer III/IV and sloped the armor of the Tiger 1.

That way the massive amounts of Panzer IVs would be kept somewhat updated, you'd have more production of the improved T-34 Panther and the Tiger 2 wouldn't have been needed.

But they kept making new designs after 1 year, it was basically part of the Arms race.

That's why you also had the heavier American prototypes that never saw services.

Or the British Black Prince Churchill and Centurion.

Soviet IS-3.

[peak oyster]

Another reason for the lack of sloped armour is that it cuts visibility for the driver

[lavish fox]

That's why you had the commander for.

[peak oyster]

Since the viewport will be further away from the driver, due to the slant and more forwards position, the driver and machine gunner couldn't see as well

[lavish fox]

Altho the T-34s (earlier ones with the 76mm guns) didn't have that.

[buoyant crest]

((well, seeing obstacles on the road is a nice thing I've heard))

[peak oyster]

The T-34s did have that issue, actually

[lavish fox]

Idk, King Tiger drivers fared well under the direction of their commander.

No I mean

The T-34's commander

Had no cupola

[buoyant crest]

because the driver was crampt in a forward position @peak oyster

[lavish fox]

Since he was the gunner as well.

Panther also fared well.

[peak oyster]

Same on the 572

[buoyant crest]

((in the 76mm models yeah, but he had a periscope))

[peak oyster]

*57s

[lavish fox]

Even so tho, good steel was used for the Tiger's armor and it could take a severe beating as records show.

[peak oyster]

Shame it was overhardened in most cases

[lavish fox]

Lesser steel was used in the Tiger II's case.

So that's why I think they made it thicker.

[peak oyster]

Also raw thickness of armour is always nice to have

Sloped armour works better with high gun depression

[lavish fox]

If your chassis and engine could take it.

[peak oyster]

Yeah

[buoyant crest]

you know what else is nice to have, an art channel about art and not tanks #general-discussion

[lavish fox]

Well, to be honest you did contribute severely to the discussion.

[peak oyster]

How the fuck do you have an organised conversation in off-topic

[buoyant crest]

You dont.

but some people want feedback on art and such, which is now lost in the pile

[peak oyster]

Fair

[buoyant crest]

I also mentioned several times that the convo is b a d e, and only did so for education reasons (e.g., some maths and drawing)

@lyric wyvern that siad, like the pixel art. What inspired your style?

[lyric wyvern]

The game tbh lol

[buoyant crest]

really?

lol

have you seen mine?

[lyric wyvern]

Nah

[buoyant crest]

They are based on the classic strategy game Advance Wars, and do lend quite a bunch of parts

Here is the collection of my designs thus far, someone else also did a few

also

[lyric wyvern]

Well I've been doing pixel art for awhile on that small scale. I have a group of guys that all do little pixel armies.

[buoyant crest]

sweet, nice to hear tiny pixel art is still in the swing

[lyric wyvern]

Ah lol the community is super small sadly.

[buoyant crest]

advantage is that they are made quick tho if you have the expierence

[lyric wyvern]

Very much so. However it's also a very hard art style to master. I'm still pretty trap compared to others.

[buoyant crest]

practice makes master, I've been doing it for litteral ages. Even before I could type properly, we had Gamemaker in the Old computer which I used to make all kinds of (kid) drawings; don't bash yourself for not having achieved a certain skill level, as everything is relative and no one lives a happy life thinking they are shite.

Its the idea that makes it art, not the beauty

skill is just a tool on top of that

[cobalt tinsel]

youre a piece of art

[buoyant crest]

we still havent met up so you dont know yet 😉

[cobalt tinsel]

I got free time saturday

and archery tommorow 😉

[lyric wyvern]

Oh I know im good at pixel art just not at master just yet lol

[regal kindle]

Kinda late to this dead discussion but i must do what i must

Italian tank crews> soviet tank crews @lavish fox

[peak rover]

any tank crews > soviet crew

[regal kindle]

Well gotta put it tighter

Italian tank crews> brittish tank crews

[buoyant crest]

Art discussion > whatever the fuck you guys are doing

[regal kindle]

This is our special place

[indigo zinc]

How do you do pixel art?

That’s really the only kind of art I’ve ever been interested in but I don’t know how to do it

[buoyant crest]

@indigo zinc open up paint, zoom really really far in

[indigo zinc]

I’ve never done art on a PC before

[buoyant crest]

Well, the great advantage of pixel art is that you can use your mouse

it requires no drawing equipment whatsoever

[indigo zinc]

Cool

Do you just fill in pixels?

[buoyant crest]

Yep

I personally get the basic line art down first with black

then I paint it the base colours

[indigo zinc]

Yeah I can see the thin outline on the artillery

[buoyant crest]

Add detail lines in a contrasting colour (pure red, or pure green forexample)

then colour those in

then clear up the inside lines

[indigo zinc]

And you have a BT

[buoyant crest]

For the style I do, the last step is very important to prevent the thing from getting cluthered

additionally, partly for traditional reasons, I limit myself in colour. The Gameboy advance had a limited graphics cards and could only display so many different colours at once

[indigo zinc]

Only basic colors?

[buoyant crest]

hence factions practically have only 6 shades of the same colour to work with, and some universal grays and browns

It could do many colours tho, just not at the same time

[indigo zinc]

Ok, are there any apps that could help me?

[buoyant crest]

it could do a maximum of 56 different colours at once, which is barely any by todays standard

@indigo zinc The Asian pro's just use paint

I have luxury and use Photoshop, although I dont recommend it for pixel art

But basically any art program suffices

its just a matter of the right brushes and settings

[indigo zinc]

I’m new to this stuff

What settings would you recommend?

[buoyant crest]

well, it really just depend on the program you have; it is important that you have a pixel brush and no anti-aliasing

anti-aliasing is an "effect" that "rounds" shapes. Basically, it creates transparent layers of colour around the brush or paint area to make the colour more fluent in the diagonals. You dont want that in pixel art because it is really meant for stuff like pictures and when you are using anti-alliasing brushes

Btw, for clarification: Pencil = creates full colour pixels, is roundly or square shaped when made larger; brush = anti-alliasing at default and generally have a different shape

[indigo zinc]

Is the outline whole pixels?

[buoyant crest]

jspaint.app is very basic website which simulates the older art programs. Zoom in fully via the top menu and you are good to go (all settings are defaulted to what you need)

In true pixel art, every thing is whole pixel

[indigo zinc]

Wow now I know why people struggle with it

[buoyant crest]

It is very odd at first, you when you are using a digital pen for the first time

but you will ge tused to it

you will see, the theory is identical to the traditional arts, but how to get there is different

[indigo zinc]

It seems very time consuming

[buoyant crest]

Well, it really depends on your style, expierence and what you are doing

just like with regualr drawing; it can take 5 mins or 5 days

[indigo zinc]

How long did it take you to make the Battle Tank?

[buoyant crest]

I personally spend about an 1 on one unique tank, and 1.5 on two if they are "of the same type"

but I do test a lot and use bases from advance wars to get the right shapes sometimes

I'll show you more in a sec

First I copied a track (above of the Red Star Medium Tank), made it longer and added some detail lacking

[indigo zinc]

Ooh

Now I get what your saying

[buoyant crest]

Then I drew the crude boxy shape. Keep in mind this is isometric, so the distance is as big as the near

[indigo zinc]

What’s with that green on the left?

[buoyant crest]

Drew the mg post (this was a real haggle) and copied the track (which was on a seperate layer) which I moved to the back diagonally until it fitted in the hull on the "other side"

@indigo zinc as I said, high contrast lines

It is basically black, but I never changed it to it because as you can see in this step it is behind the mg

[indigo zinc]

That’s a cool looking tank. Reminds me of the WW1 landships

[buoyant crest]

Add the ground shadow. In this step I would generally start adding details like the darker lines on the side of the hull as well as the bolts and the highlights

[indigo zinc]

Optical illusion

[buoyant crest]

With the turret, you can tell better; This is the base

This is detail

Then I added this dude, which I got from another drawing I did (please dont ask me to do people)

Then I fitted the turret and recoloured the thing

[indigo zinc]

Neutral faction?

[buoyant crest]

*which is easy since everything is 6 tone)

hahahaha

[indigo zinc]

Wait don’t blue and green make purple?

[buoyant crest]

Its from an old game, back when the game boy was the only game boy on the market XD

@indigo zinc blue+green = torquise. blue+red = purple

[indigo zinc]

Oh

@buoyant crest what was the game boy game called

[buoyant crest]

game boy

it was the game boy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_Color

[indigo zinc]

Oh that was the colors it supported?

[buoyant crest]

yep

[indigo zinc]

Only 4?

[indigo zinc]

ThAtS tO mAnY

[buoyant crest]

For that time, it was incredible

we are talking 1998

that is, the game boy colour, the very first game boy wasnt even in colour yet

[indigo zinc]

😯

[buoyant crest]

1989 baby

[indigo zinc]

So complex

[buoyant crest]

the pixel were like over a milimeter in size, but it was astonshing small for that time. Like, the average person had never seen a LCD screen, TVs were as deep as wide due to their electron canons and the CD had to be yet inveted

ok, the last is a lie, that was 1982, but it wasnt popular all then

[indigo zinc]

I knew it

[buoyant crest]

Actually, I have met one of the guys who worked on the DVD and CD readers

amazing systems engineer, one of the best colleges I have followed

feel almost disgusted I failed the course

[indigo zinc]

Don’t be

[lavish fox]

@regal kindle What Padfoot said lol.

[peak rover]

What did I say

@lavish fox

[lavish fox]

That any tank crew is better than a Russian/Soviet one.

[peak rover]

Oh yes

[lavish fox]

Which is just simply true lol.

And I think it was more like something along the lines of 192 tanks but whatever.

[peak rover]

My work so far

[lavish fox]

That for the medics? Nice.

[peak rover]

@lavish fox no it not for medic

[regal kindle]

Noice

Wish i could draw

[indigo zinc]

@peak rover the Dovakin is a Warden

[buoyant crest]

And, @indigo zinc , did you manage to make something?

[next hemlock]

Hello fellow artists, if anyone could make me a pfp of a Teddy bear in a collie uniform that would be real cool. I'm talking similar art style to Loxen or Anclet's pfps.

[willow remnant]

I just learned that the FCM 36 had a variant with the SA38

[brazen grove]

thats a weird octagon

[high ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407264700006420/609347390612176896/pvg_m39_20mm.jpg

pansarvärnsgevär

[ember oasis]

Bless you

[brazen grove]

its ok

[indigo zinc]

@buoyant crest today I’m going to be around my laptop

Yesterday o wasn’t able to

[buoyant crest]

ah

[regal kindle]

Boys

Ill give 5 shekels to the one that does a warden or a colonial version of this

[lavish fox]

And here we go with the Italians once again...

Why can't you just be a normal person and love the Germans instead.

[buoyant crest]

why cant y'all be normal and just enjoy tanks

[rancid carbon]

there is a difference between a tank

and an all-terrain high velocity pizza delivery vehicle

[peak rover]

@buoyant crest cause tanks aren’t enjoyable

[rancid carbon]

ok now thats just too far my dude

[gloomy lodge]

There's a certain beauty when it comes to tanks

[regal kindle]

@lavish fox cause italians are great

But take a lot of injust grief because of the germans

And because great grandpa was an italian tank commander

[cerulean anvil]

1° - Androgynous soldier.
2° - Continue doing the R63 devs.

What should I do?

[analog pike]

@regal kindle Poles are better than your Italians

Finns, Poles...

I can tell you day and night about every smaller nation way more badass than your macaroni-eaters

[regal kindle]

@analog pike lmao

Didnt knew we were on april fools already

[cerulean anvil]

A mystery.

A boy or girl? Hmm.

[buoyant crest]

transgender

lets be inclusive

[lavish fox]

@regal kindle To be honest the only people that I've read praising the Italians were the Germans serving with them in Africa.

The Allies just made fun of them.

[lyric wyvern]

Work has started on the Colly light tank

[buoyant crest]

cool to see your workprogress

spoiler of something I am working on

[regal kindle]

@lavish fox the allies just swallowed all their anti italian propaganda as the reality

Thats why they suffered a lot of hard blows

Like the conquest of parts of sudan and the brittish somaliland

And their failed attempt to capture the dodecanese

[orchid tulip]

italy was just ill-prepared for war, and suffered from poor higher command and political ambition.

[patent jetty]

italy bad

[brazen grove]

nah they just lacked sauce

[fading niche]

italy just didn't have much of anything to be the powerhouse Germany was

[rancid carbon]

Made a Three Houses character for fun. Long live the Golden Deer o7.

[trail night]

Noble houses in foxhole !?!

[silver ledge]

nice work

however i see no crest of callahan anywhere, is he... a commoner!?

[left terrace]

why he snakey?

[peak rover]

It’s our logo

[analog pike]

Yes dudes, I'm a touhou f*g

Your thoughts, guys ?

[gloomy lodge]

It's good

[cerulean anvil]

Cute.

[trail night]

Ummm.... yeah😅...

[glad vale]

Oh my Callahan, did a grenade go off on his crotch?

[rancid carbon]

Thats the back of the cape

Lel

[orchid tulip]

do I see a Chinese Dadao 😉

a Sabouteur concept sketch.

and a sniper concept sketch

and a tank crew concept sketch

[glad vale]

That sniper is definitely cooler than me

[faint egret]

this does put a smile on my face

[brazen grove]

Beard! Beard!

[viscid haven]

@peak rover thats a nice clan logo mate, I ain't ever seen something like it!

[peak rover]

@viscid haven what sorry?

[viscid haven]

Sorry, I was stroking out when I first wrote that

[peak rover]

Np

Thx btw

[orchid tulip]

Heavy Infantry (Tin Can Boy) concept sketch

[glad vale]

That’s my other opposite “Merran Tarine”

[cerulean anvil]

Captain White.

Soldiers are more concerned about his/her sex than their strict attitude.

[orchid tulip]

Colonial Warm Climate Uniform concept sketch

[flint rock]

an old animation I never got to finish

[odd berry]

Another whitehair and redeyed enters the competition

[cerulean anvil]

It was actually based on your character. At the time, I didn't know if it was a male or female so I thought how fun it would be to draw an androgynous soldier.

Here's the cat ears version. @odd berry

[odd berry]

I am going to have to kill someone now

Can'T hAve rAmpNt cLoNSsss ruNnIng aRouNd

[odd berry]

Katrina, but a bartender

Oop, actually

[wheat prawn]

I see ss13 things

What kind of a desolate server has cat ear garbage

Tell me, so I don't ever end up there

[feral summit]

Most. I got banned very quickly from paradise server one time for setting up and utilizing a gas chamber, for uh, purely scientific purposes. Probably shouldn't just admit to these kind of things, huh? 😅

[wheat prawn]

Disgusting furry garbage

[feral summit]

Yeah, that was my thought as I crammed the next body in

[odd berry]

This is why the shotgun is always loaded with slugs

@wheat prawn TG, but only older accounts who already had cat person profiles got to keep them

That effectively makes me a veteran

[analog pike]

:3

What ya think about that ?

[brazen grove]

nice bar

need more flowers

[trail night]

making background 😅 (need help).

[odd berry]

Dont do it master chief

You're better than this

[buoyant crest]

cut him up!!!

[glad vale]

Nice Pixel art, but...

I could flatten that vaguely looking Terran Marine.

[soft crow]

What do you think?

[glad vale]

@soft crow I’d say draw a bayonet attachment on another smaller piece of paper that you can move off and on the rifle because it’s seperate.

But yeah it looks pretty good.

[soft crow]

@glad vale that is a great idea, I Will do it.

[buoyant crest]

looks like you are giving yourself the thumb 😉

[trail night]

That's what i think.

[soft crow]

yup, you saw the thumb. good view :D

[high ledge]

hey um anyone taking request

[buoyant crest]

depends @high ledge

[zinc nimbus]

I've tried something

[patent jetty]

it ain't bad

i give it

8/10

no

8.5+/10

[wheat prawn]

man, you're not good at photography at all

where's the composition

what makes this piece interesting

"uhhh I guess I'll just take this really cool drawing and fill the frame with it"

no creativity whatsoever

(it's a joke, the drawing is really cool)

[patent jetty]

bruh what

@soft crow good drawing

[wheat prawn]

it's like

I'm criticizing the bad photography skill

because photographers are

i'm just going to stop talking

[glad vale]

@zinc nimbus its good but I’d recommend going a little smaller with the eyes

The proportions look strange when you look at the eye.

[zinc nimbus]

Ok thanks for the advice @glad vale

[glad vale]

👍

[lyric wyvern]

I noticed it was to small, but I think i fixed it

[brazen grove]

awesome pixels

[pallid tangle]

damnn

[final forge]

The snout(?) is rather angular but overall very nice 👌

[sullen wolf]

me wen the say the a new war

[manic sky]

The future of warfare, by me. Enjoy

[flint leaf]

@final forge some ying snoots can get pretty pointy, but I agree, it's a little off

[brazen grove]

The wheelbarrow of doom, a cheaper alternative to the motor of cycle.

[manic sky]

Made it a bit more 'grounded'

[glad vale]

@manic sky it bothers me that the guy in the back has one foot

[manic sky]

Colorized, and I tried to crop the foot a bit more

[rocky tiger]

Pink Flurry and crews
I try to sketch by hand drawing

[dawn dust]

daww

[glad vale]

@rocky tiger aw yeah you’re drawing our tank!

I forget who the other guy was.

[rocky tiger]

Me too he's name like Water

[runic burrow]

Waterway2, he helps me scrap regularly

@cedar spruce in discord.

[soft crow]

How do they look? (apart from dirty)

[brazen grove]

needs more work on face proportion

[odd berry]

The first one is kinda eh

The second one I really like for the shading detail

[soft crow]

These are the first anime drawings I make, so every advice and criticism you make helps me a lot.

[silver ledge]

the hair on top, or accessory on top looks very out place

[rocky tiger]

i don't know how to call this art style

[raw sinew]

i'd call it hella good

[glad vale]

Yeah I like that art style.

The gray color works really well with it as well

[gloomy lodge]

Weathered Expanse much

[high ledge]

Anime?

[brazen grove]

yeah

[white snow]

anine

[analog pike]

nunime

[cedar spruce]

@rocky tiger hay mummy its me waterway2 i was part of your tank crew i saw the drawing of tank it looks great

[true hearth]

added some flair to artwork

[rocky tiger]

@cedar spruce oh it you thanks

[glad vale]

@cedar spruce yeah it really came out nicely. Although the tank has a misleading name now.

The tank had a few more combat situations before it got stolen after one of the times of being hidden away.

[cedar spruce]

@glad vale ow ok thanks for the info

[rocky tiger]

https://youtu.be/KebBj9F7Ff4
give me some inspiration please

[silent zinc]

kakak

[turbid quartz]

My little brother often watches me playing Foxhole. The day before yesterday I taught him how to draw in Paint. Today I found this on my desktop...

[ember oasis]

omg that's a masterpiece

[candid citrus]

That's cute

[near folio]

This needs to make CH

[ebon pelican]

yes it does

hey @turbid quartz is that in-game name?

[blissful heath]

@turbid quartz post this in #foxhole-creative so it can be put in Community Highlights

it's too precious to go unnoticed

[brazen grove]

Dang thats great

[high ledge]

made myself a qick lil something

[turbid quartz]

@ebon pelican No. My in-game name is Stuhr or Штур

[ebon pelican]

oh cool

[turbid quartz]

A couple of minutes ago posted a picture at your request in #foxhole-creative

[ebon pelican]

this in tribute janzera

[high ledge]

@ebon pelican can you make a folder for all of this? it will make people easier to see it

[ebon pelican]

i this post helps

in making sure that we do not forgoet janeza

and his works

he was an amzing artist for us

i hope that he has move to greener fields where is talent can grow

i we miss janezea and his works

hope you remaber him fondly as i do

....
also fuck you clyde am doing an mermoiy seveice

get out of the way

........
.....
@high ledge doubt can that i put it in folder
and uoload the whole thing

[high ledge]

@ebon pelican whatever you say

[peak rover]

thats alot of anime

[stray mulch]

Bye jazz....... i (and we ) will never foget ya.

[buoyant crest]

what happened?

[odd berry]

They just up and left, no specifics on why alas

[high ledge]

Alas a loss that will be forever felt. Godspeed.

[cerulean anvil]

Wait.... WHAT?! Janeza left?

When? Why? Man....

[high ledge]

Like about 4 or 5 hours ago.

No definite reason why. I suppose just moving on.

[tame gorge]

If he left seriously I can only hope he won't end up like many of artist on Internet. Drawing porn :( I am serious.

[rocky tiger]

So bad

[lavish fox]

~Hey whatever pays the bills.

[high ledge]

Haha, yeah, drawing porn....

[soft crow]

How it looks? (WIP)

[high ledge]

something something need to grind those fundamentals

But yeah keep at it regardless!

[cerulean anvil]

Progress report.

[peak rover]

Oh my god 😂

That fucking awesome

[gloomy lodge]

[glad vale]

You know that hurts my eyes a little @cerulean anvil but when you get to coloring, you should try to go for HB’s old hair color 👇

https://www.twitch.tv/foxholegame/clip/ViscousModernPandaPoooound

[cerulean anvil]

Sure. Why not?

[soft crow]

I have fixed some things, but still have some problems.

However, how does it look?

(WIP, obviously)

[cerulean anvil]

Well, it depends on what look you're trying to do. Are you pursuing anime style in general? Perhaps your own style?

There are a lot of things I could say. However, it can sound rude and I might be misinterpreting your overall stylistic choice.

[high ledge]

I mean it depends on what sort of help you want.

Something something the fires and hell of /ic/ has made me jaded

[brazen grove]

proportions are unbalanced.

[high ledge]

Yeah, proportions need work.
I will tell you, other than practicing and grinding your fundamentals, that references for poses and such will help tremendously.

One big thing is the head is way too big compared to everything else.

But in general, you need to start from the beginning with this. Do some general body form practice, some anatomy fundamental stuff.

Like, seriously, as much as it is a meme, Loomis is a great place to start for beginners.

Also a billion resources online. Everything from nice community things like Drawbox, to resources like posemaniacs, to just homegrown and community based things like DeviantArt stuff (A Sketch a Day) and others.
Something something a shill for drawing.

[brazen grove]

oke

[high ledge]

This is totally not a desperate attempt to have more people git gud at art so we can have a bunch of weeb art for Foxhole.

:^)

[brazen grove]

well someone oughta continue the legacy

[sullen wolf]

becoes ther is wifu´s in here so have one more!

[lavish fox]

@blissful heath I saw that hehe.

[blissful heath]

I realised that Cypuss might not speak English natively, so I felt bad saying it

It's not bad btw

[sullen wolf]

it ok X3 i sick to so it dun´t help X3 but glad you like it

[odd berry]

That's a really big... sword

I'm not complaining!

[glad vale]

@high ledge this might help you https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214498844409331713/540267768335958017/ad91efe12540a790b209e672083fddaf.png

Every crease in clothing is caused by pulling in another point.

[high ledge]

That's a big thanks from me dog

[rocky tiger]

When you still have feeling with DOOM and play Foxhole

[tame gorge]

Nice

[runic burrow]

Have you been in Rip and Tear lately?

[stable vale]

Castle crasher

[lyric spoke]

absolute UNIT

[stable vale]

Finished

[thorny mirage]

nice

[analog pike]

@blissful heath You know what it is.

[digital spade]

some ones sold on the 3rd faction idea

[ember oasis]

When Logi from both sides quit and unite as one faction because they’re tired of oppression

But then just like almost every tiger communist nation they eventually drift apart and suddenly become oppressed Logi and “heroic” infantry once again

[stable vale]

Not if we dedicate ourselves to the God emperor

[thorny mirage]

that's why we Colonials are here

to bring the Wardens into Imperial Compliance

[stable vale]

Troo

[thorny mirage]

never thought about that eh

[stable vale]

Would be interesting for a holiday agreement

[gloomy lodge]

https://i.imgur.com/UCfbtXe.png Colonial Ork

Heretic

[digital spade]

I luv da DAKKA DAKKA!

[high ledge]

Reminder that Anime is inevitable.

[young spear]

Oh, have we gone too far with the anime

[odd berry]

Japan (I think) is going for genetic engineering on mixing human and animal DNA, so

[autumn leaf]

I want it

[brazen grove]

Datz green an' mean.

they better have a ethics committee

[remote lynx]

Ships come alive
All young girls

what

Given how long some ships were in service, you'd expect at least one cranky old woman who still remembers WW1

[blissful heath]

it's wank fodder, don't act like it's anything more than that

[high ledge]

I mean foxhole as it's own shipgirls. ;^))))

[white snow]

same thing

[lavish fox]

Why does it always have to be traps...