art-discussion

[limpid axle]

weapon to surpass the metal gear

[high ledge]

@peak rover name pls for research purposes

[olive cove]

@karmic stream so Foxhole has more of a interwar aesthetic?

When it comes to vehicles and such

[final forge]

Imo yes

Most of the equipment like the tanks and FA seem more interwar

[pliant spindle]

@peak rover Somehow I feel like I just want that for my every-day life... =_=

[final forge]

It’s beautiful

[high ledge]

@olive cove what do you think about this?

[final forge]

You put a second turret on a TOG

[olive cove]

Hmm

[high ledge]

@final forge no, i took the TOG 2 turret off, and then added the AC and LT turrets

smh

[final forge]

It’s great

I’d love to see that thing going over trenches

Just to finish my thoughts: If you compare in game equipment to their closest real-world counterparts most of the technology is from the interwar period (minus the FMG, I still can’t find an irl counterpart for it)

[high ledge]

FMG?

@final forge Look at the concepts for it

[olive cove]

The irl counterpart is a antiair gun

[final forge]

Field Machine Gun

[high ledge]

these are warden tank concepts

all interwar

i still prefer A to C

[final forge]

Interesting

[olive cove]

If you've seen Saving Private Ryan the devs said they got inspiration for it from the scene where the Germans use an antiair gun to destroy some US soldiers off of a tank

Design wise though

Idk

[final forge]

I have somehow yet to see that movie

[high ledge]

this explains a lot tbh

[olive cove]

Howi

[high ledge]

If the howi is based off a 88

[olive cove]

I would've liked B or C more than what we got

[high ledge]

i want a direct fire mode

for the howi

[olive cove]

Like press F for direct fire mode and press it again for ranged

[final forge]

Interesting idea, maybe put it in #game-feedback-archive ?

[olive cove]

Since F is what they've been using for different firing modes and attachments

I'm good, someone else can do it

[high ledge]

trying to find the colonial tank concepts

These markings

we have 2 ingame

But what are the vehicles for the other two?

[final forge]

Looks like the Xiphos icon got a bit thiccer

[olive cove]

Well that's because the early version was just a normal straight sword

[final forge]

Yeah

[olive cove]

Now it's actually a xiphos sword

[high ledge]

So, We can assume another colonial vehicle will be called a Warhammer

and that is just badass

[final forge]

Petition to rename it the banhammer

[karmic stream]

hey on those tank concepts C turned into the devitt and when we named the xiphos we changed the icon to be a real xiphos shapes

[high ledge]

Some stuff is planned ahead of time, others aren't due to early access schedule.

Eventually you will see more of this proliferate through the game.

ooo

But since both the Hatchet and a Early Concept of the Xiphos logos are there, i just wonder what vehicle the other two logos will be on

[final forge]

I can’t remember who it was but someone mentioned the idea of a pushable PaK gun, looking at A and B on the howie concepts makes me think of a stationary direct fire gun

[limpid axle]

i think we have 4 AT gun suggestions from today

[final forge]

Found it, it was Xolbadur

It’s probably because we’re so sick of tanks this war

[peak rover]

I am not I love being in a tank blowing Colonials sky high

[high ledge]

smh padfoot there are not explosion physics yet

[limpid axle]

pie i hae a AT gun suggestion there too

[high ledge]

(pls gib)

[limpid axle]

someone had 13 commends

[peak rover]

bodys can still go flying

[high ledge]

but your speaking about tanks

not bodies

[peak rover]

yes if you hit it just right you can send a body flying away

[high ledge]

i acknowledged that, but i was referring to vehicles

[peak rover]

I was Referring to the Infentry

[high ledge]

even though that was not the topic, but k

im going to leave now before this escalates

[vague dust]

I want to see bits of infantry explode like a gory firework.

@peak rover Damn, your tank's a beast. And it probably has a higher profile than mine.

[peak rover]

well I try to make the the same hight

[karmic stream]

hahaha I missed that warden variant

[vague dust]

What's its top speed? @peak rover

[peak rover]

same as yours

@karmic stream here you go

[vague dust]

How much armor does it have?

[peak rover]

Idk

[tidal trench]

good gracious

[buoyant crest]

Bit late to jump on the tank train, but my throw on a heavy(/-ier) tank, the R3 Siege Ram Infantry tank; the traditional light gun assisted with a ball mounted 12.7mm in the turret, and a 117mm Howitzer in the hull. Inspiration from the 1930s~1940s idea to have slow tanks with a howitzer in the hull and a light anti tank weapon in the turret.

[limpid axle]

firfely armour

[tidal trench]

moar tanks

[limpid axle]

what is that

[peak rover]

I don’t think of the wight or the speed or the armor I just think of looks and crew roles

[vague dust]

I went off the actual specs for the Sherman on mine.

More specifically the M4A3(76)

[buoyant crest]

other, more in game angle

[peak rover]

Mine would have the wight of a firefly body + kv85 turret panzer IV gun and side skirts

[tidal trench]

that's a mighty big tank thread lmao

[high ledge]

@buoyant crest That looks something like a Char, just because of the 2nd hull gun

[vague dust]

@peak rover I see. With the KV-85 turret it might weigh more than the Sherman.

[buoyant crest]

That is because I love the Char B's

[peak rover]

yea want to talk about it in Hangout

[final forge]

@peak rover needs more curves

[peak rover]

it just a 2D side look

[final forge]

I like it though, the “death before dismount” on the barrel is a nice touch

[kindred isle]

what if a panzer II and a char b got it on?

[remote lynx]

Still want the Collie medium to take after the M4 and T-34

[kindred isle]

m4a4 for the sharper edges

[remote lynx]

A1E1 Independent for the Wardies

:D

[karmic stream]

I'm interested to know what you guys think would work for the heavy tanks?

[high ledge]

Ooo

[loud walrus]

🤔

It should be VERY expensive first

[high ledge]

Since this is interwar ill check out a few designs

[loud walrus]

to prevent spam as we do actually with Light tanks (maybe cost a huge amount of Tech parts ?)

[high ledge]

@loud walrus hes talking about the look of it

[karmic stream]

I mean real world tanks you guys like

[loud walrus]

oh,

The son of an ARL44 and a Sturmpanzer for the warden aspect for me couldbe interesting

[high ledge]

Julian by looking at interwar heavy tanks, id say it would have to look like a land cruiser

Now a Colonial one could be a lot of things

[solar fiber]

m1 abrahms

[tidal trench]

well

[high ledge]

Im going to look at eastern european things to get an idea

[tidal trench]

does the concept art you've showed with a big ass tank count?

[high ledge]

Maybe a T-35?

[tidal trench]

:>

asking for a friend

[fleet crescent]

@karmic stream the british Matlida crossed with a US m6 and possible the French B1-BIS

[loud walrus]

call it "acquilius Mk II"

for warden one

[solar fiber]

wat about this

[loud walrus]

Cruiser Iv isn't a light tank ?

[solar fiber]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow sand]

It is

[solar fiber]

just found a pic

[vague dust]

It is a light tank actually.

[high ledge]

Were talking about a Heavy tank guys

@vague dust What do you think for colonials?

[loud walrus]

yes, ARL 44 ?

[high ledge]

Too far in the future

[loud walrus]

or somethign looking like ? this one was prettty ugly, rounded and massive

[remote lynx]

As far as heavy tanks go, something like a KV-1 or KV-2 is always a hit

[hollow sand]

^

[loud walrus]

for colonials ?

[high ledge]

I feel like there was an image but it has not yet loaded

[karmic stream]

haha the kv 2 is a beast

[remote lynx]

pfft

[high ledge]

Tbh i see this

Not because i made it

At all

[loud walrus]

@karmic stream What about add a secondary little turret above the main one ?

[hollow sand]

Give it kv 1 tower

[high ledge]

Mostly because nothing else really fits

[loud walrus]

just like KV serie got ?

Kv-3 or Kv-4

[karmic stream]

also Im taking note of these suggestions... though I do already have a tone of them in my ref folder.... checked it today and I have 8,550 jpgs

[vague dust]

Colonials should get this for a light tank.

[hollow sand]

Hatchet is fine

[high ledge]

I liked it when it was about heavy tanks

[hollow sand]

But warden light looks like heavy

True Soviet steel

[karmic stream]

@hollow sand as it should!

[high ledge]

@karmic stream Just a quick question before i dive into the google search, Single turret WW2 heavy, or Landship Interwar heavy tank

[fleet crescent]

warden heavy

TOG BIAS

WITH AMPHIBIOUS ABILITY

[karmic stream]

whatever you want to suggest

[hollow sand]

Julian why?

[high ledge]

Would it surprise you that I already made colonial TOG based tank

[fleet crescent]

@high ledge it should be a warden since its so big

[loud walrus]

Maybe add a secondary light turret under the main one ? Or on the rear of it ?

with a mounted light gun (for example using Gunboat shells) ?

[karmic stream]

nope.... to the tog comment lol

[peak rover]

@karmic stream I think that a heavy tank should relly on a big crew it should have mult fual slots slow speed thick armor but HUGE cannon

😉

[karmic stream]

XD

[high ledge]

Hold on julian

[vague dust]

How about this old beauty?

[high ledge]

I think i got a thing you may like

[karmic stream]

the kv2 could not move and turn its turret

[peak rover]

St charmon

😉 😉 😉

[karmic stream]

I love the St charmon

[remote lynx]

kek

[hollow sand]

When Soviet engineers get too much vodka

[high ledge]

Ill find a better pic

[fleet crescent]

we could do with a tank APC combo, tank at the front with a troop bed in the back

[loud walrus]

but it's more of a Tank destroyer than a Heavy tank no ? @karmic stream I mean for the St chamondd

[vague dust]

@high ledge Indiana Jones I see?

[remote lynx]

Put- put your rock in it

[remote lynx]

ew

[peak rover]

☝ 😉 👌

[high ledge]

@vague dust yes but the tank is interesting

[high ledge]

M6 heavy?

[peak rover]

Julian why dont you just make a random quick sketh of what you think the tank should be

[fleet crescent]

yeah that way we can take it an make a mess of it

[karmic stream]

@peak rover XD nice try

[peak rover]

?

[high ledge]

Heck

[stuck crown]

Don't listen to the Julian. He's a crackpot

[karmic stream]

cant show my sketches here XD

[peak rover]

well you ask us what we want but I am curis to see what you think

ok

[loud walrus]

maybe explain it also ?

[peak rover]

or what you want

[loud walrus]

basically ?

[high ledge]

how about the Turan for the colonial?

[peak rover]

I think the IS / KV 85 has big potential for Colonial Heavy

[high ledge]

@peak rover KV-85? Yeah i agree wit that

[peak rover]

I will make a model soon

[loud walrus]

should it have only 1 turret ?

[peak rover]

yea

[loud walrus]

since it's heavy and very massive ?

[high ledge]

I mean

[fleet crescent]

he should just make a full on BANEBLADE

[high ledge]

Depends on the time frame

[peak rover]

how wide is a bridge

[loud walrus]

I mean, hugest tanks (KV, O-I) all got multiples turrets

[high ledge]

WW2 or Interwar

[fleet crescent]

aaa

friggin internet

[karmic stream]

as the concept artist I can't post my sketches XD

[fleet crescent]

@karmic stream Baneblade or bust

[karmic stream]

hahaha

[high ledge]

Adam can you post Julian's sketches?

He cant post his

[peak rover]

Julian how wide is a bridge in foxhole

[high ledge]

But you can

[karmic stream]

shadowsword

[fleet crescent]

BOOM!

if you legit added a baneblade, even as a background image that would be amazing

[stuck crown]

But I can

[high ledge]

Art

[fleet crescent]

not bad acctualy

[high ledge]

True art

[karmic stream]

I worked hard on that tail?

[stuck crown]

the outer layer is its Bio Shield.

[loud walrus]

oooh

[high ledge]

i see

[loud walrus]

bio shield and superlaser ?

please

[stuck crown]

Theres no lasers in foxhole. be real

[high ledge]

Adam did you put in the warp drive?

[loud walrus]

not even experimental ?

[peak rover]

smoke launchers?

[loud walrus]

in a borrowed scientist research outpost deep inside callahan's pass ?

[stuck crown]

Its using both Di and Trilithum Crystals to powers it rear Megadrive

[high ledge]

@peak rover ARL-44 hull id agree on, not the turret however, its not warden enuff

[karmic stream]

the wardens invested in bio shields and had bmats left for lasers

[peak rover]

oh well I was thinking for colonail Turret

IS 1 body with ARL turret

[high ledge]

Yeah i could see it

[karmic stream]

the ARL 44 looks great

[loud walrus]

Arl 44 body would be cool for warden's one and KV hull for colonial one

[high ledge]

Wait where is that port base concept art?

[loud walrus]

both looks massive and huge

[high ledge]

There was a medium looking tank there

[loud walrus]

we search about heavy man 😃

[tidal trench]

#Lore

[tidal trench]

Hey Adam and Julian

[peak rover]

Tank customisation when

[hollow sand]

Maybe leman Russ? With hmgs as heavy bolters?

[karmic stream]

alright guys I am going home for the day its 6 here but thanks for all the ideas and the convo

[vague dust]

No problem.

[loud walrus]

no prblm

[fleet crescent]

wait

[peak rover]

np safe journy

[fleet crescent]

i have an idea doodle

[stuck crown]

@tidal trench yesssssir?

[fleet crescent]

Great artiste

[stuck crown]

Tank shaped Rockets

[tidal trench]

Just came by to say hi to both of you

[stuck crown]

<3<3<3

[tidal trench]

senpai noticed me

[solar fiber]

@stuck crown is this best hide and seek spot

[stuck crown]

Its the only one.

[solar fiber]

i win sorry acq, pay me 1k bmats

[tidal trench]

;-;

so many things to do

[high ledge]

Julian is free

Is Adam free?

[fleet crescent]

rate my tanks

because i dontr like how bad they look

[tidal trench]

Artists should do a 15 second drawing competition :p
• a picture will be given, and you'll have to draw it within 15 seconds. (whats important is it's recognizable)
• people will vote which one's better

[high ledge]

There quick sketches right?

[solar fiber]

adam is never free until he returns to his home planet

[high ledge]

@tidal trench please no

[fleet crescent]

@

[tidal trench]

it's gonna be gud

[fleet crescent]

@high ledge ye i just sketched them while convo was goin

[high ledge]

I dont even have a pencil or paper

[fleet crescent]

get a pen

[high ledge]

IM IN A FUCKIN CAR

;~;

[solar fiber]

cool

go home

[tidal trench]

always carry a small notebook

just like freerk, I think

[solar fiber]

or dont like me

[remote lynx]

Really, I think the ARL 44 is one ugly motherfucker

[solar fiber]

bcuz art is ~booring~ alright

[peak rover]

Art is cultural

[weary osprey]

do we still like foxhole memes?

[tidal trench]

#announcements

foxhole memes, we do still make em

but they dont belong in this channel

[final forge]

Yes

^^

[weary osprey]

got it. posted them in appropriate channel

[quaint pier]

there used to be a phone app where you had to draw something in a time limit and the other person had to guess what it was

[pulsar grail]

Warden dragon?

[solar fiber]

🤔

looks nice tho

[dull copper]

hah no

it's just a character

Not everything blue n grey is warden :P

[pulsar grail]

I agree. Only cool things that are blue and grey are Warden

So, I'll say it again. Warden dragon

[dull copper]

no

[timber beacon]

@dull copper yo, let's not dude

[dull copper]

okay

[ornate ibex]

whats that? Are we going to have Monster Hunter: Foxhole.....?

[hollow sand]

Foxholerim

[remote lynx]

@dull copper 👌

[stuck crown]

Dear 3D Artists!

I have uploaded the Colonial Gun Boat with all my working files (Max, FBX, Substance Painter, and Zbrush)
https://sites.google.com/clapfootgames.com/foxhole-boat-assets

You can use the assets freely as long as it's non-commercial and attribute clapfoot. I am personally uploading this to learn from.

Hope this is useful!

[tidal trench]

Dear Adam

[trim vessel]

Holy hell another dec talked other than clapfoot and hb

Also thanks adam

[loud walrus]

man, the Clapfoot dev team is very active and open to their commu. have you never saw anyother devs than them ?

[tidal trench]

No, because it's only them that Im able to talk to

apart from the Unreal and Unity dev hubs

[loud walrus]

[tidal trench]

been talking to them alot recently

https://i.gyazo.com/2725451909ef88fc41ab3b52977ce6a9.mp4

someone posted this

and it was made in Unity it seems 🙂

[trim vessel]

@loud walrus don't have acess to ch chat kek

So I've only ever seen HB, clapfoot and Adam now talk.

KFC doesn't count.

[tidal trench]

you missed anthony and julian

and clapfoot is basically the whole dev team

so im not sure what you mean

[loud walrus]

he lmeans markfoot ?

[tidal trench]

i guess so. lmao

[stuck crown]

KFC counts.

[high ledge]

Adam counts.

im bored, so i must make art

[buoyant crest]

Ohhhh, I love how it sends you first to a copyright page, I didnt know that was a possibility

[high ledge]

@buoyant crest

l o v e m e

[buoyant crest]

njet

[high ledge]

rE

[remote lynx]

@tidal trench Have Unity kit installed, just haven't really bothered much with it. Too much time spent playing games and not enough left to spend on making them. 😅

[solar fiber]

i had unity kit or whatever it is installed just to look at it

but then i started to create a mod for ultimite epic battle simulator

[tidal trench]

@remote lynx welcome to the club_!_

[solar fiber]

but then someone already had the mod done so i said fuck it then dleated unity

[remote lynx]

Is actually attending college to be a programmer

[tidal trench]

I graduated college with Bachelors in Game Development :>

[remote lynx]

aww

[tidal trench]

still busy playing

unity's lookin' at me from the back

[remote lynx]

Always a bigger fish than me :<

[tidal trench]

[solar fiber]

@tidal trench what games do you have that have a steamworkshop

[tidal trench]

bought games?

[solar fiber]

paid or free doesnt matter

does it have a workshop

[tidal trench]

COH2

[remote lynx]

Welp, g'night

[tidal trench]

@remote lynx not exactly. even if you're not from a game developer's perspective, youre definitely in the right market

in the industry, the ocmpanies are always looking for programmers

and the demand is on an all time high

[solar fiber]

u should make a mod for it so that you can use it later if you want to get into a game company like bethesda

[tidal trench]

its so rare to fill in a game design slot.

[solar fiber]

or ~EA~ clapfoot

[tidal trench]

and rare to find a job that's like Matt

[remote lynx]

@tidal trench Figured I could at least be a game programmer. I'm just not someone who does extra curricular activities outside of playing games

[tawdry sequoia]

[tidal trench]

@remote lynx you can definitely do it if you really want to

[remote lynx]

I want to, but I want playing games more

[tidal trench]

It's not technically a bad habit

but you could definitely alot atleaast an hour

and thats more than nothing tbh

i find that practice is what's key in this line of work

Matt can atest to this

[tawdry sequoia]

"Boss, I'm not playing DOI for fun, I'm looking at their game design"

[remote lynx]

Tru. Hell, I have it on my laptop (the kit) and I got my laptop right here (On vacation). Though I suppose I'm more motivated to write atm. To be a programmer or to be a writer. 🤔

[tawdry sequoia]

both?

[tidal trench]

you can definitely do both.

i dont see why not.

[remote lynx]

Write a novel entirely in C#

[tidal trench]

Visual novels are a thing.

[tawdry sequoia]

a "point-and click adventure game"

[tidal trench]

now you just need to find an artist (cos VNs are art heavy)

[solar fiber]

just become a QA guy if you want to play games at work and not get yelled at

[remote lynx]

You need an artist for that. Hey lercas, get over here

[tidal trench]

@solar fiber but that's not how QA works lol

[solar fiber]

ik you also have to fix bugs

[tawdry sequoia]

looks at bannerlord

[solar fiber]

by finding bugs

[tidal trench]

not really

that's more of a programmer job

[solar fiber]

well the way bethesda does it is there qa guys plays it to find bugs

[remote lynx]

@solar fiber You should watch the Extra Credits episode on QA

[tidal trench]

that misconception is what drives people into the industry and actually get bombarded.. realizing "oh shit, this is actually more legit than I thought"

[solar fiber]

then what does qa do

[remote lynx]

Shit's hard

But I know I'd appreciate good QA

[tidal trench]

literally Quality Assurance. You play the game, yes. You play it over and over and over and over, and document every single thing you find thats broken, weird, or anything out of the norm.

you will be given new builds

and you will do exactly everything you found last build to see if it's fixed

[tawdry sequoia]

that sounds like something vernichter would do

[tidal trench]

and then youfind another way to break it

[remote lynx]

And you repeat the steps to break it again and again, writing it all down. Even trying different ways to break the same thing again.

[tidal trench]

^^^

what I've been doing with devbranch

[remote lynx]

Your job is to break it and document exactly how, when, and where you did it.

[tidal trench]

take these for example

now imagine 20+ versions of that

[remote lynx]

I should really watch more of Mark Abent's Bugsmashers

[tidal trench]

with iterations, and checking if the bug was fixedi n the previous tracker, and if its regressing in the new build

so and so

to keep things art related,

I would find any visual bugs in the game

[remote lynx]

Hey, programming is an art

[tidal trench]

yes, thats true

more so the textures, models not working correctly

I, too, find cleanliness in coding as an art

makes me feelgood

[tawdry sequoia]

invisible barbed wire, sulfur etc. )))

[remote lynx]

Been told to read 'Clean Code'

[tidal trench]

mhm, until then you will get a shitty spaghetti code

[remote lynx]

Got a big pile bynow

[tidal trench]

I'll have to quote matt on this

there's soooooooooooooo many things in Development that I havent read

considering that Im also a graduate of this

but what's important is youre doing one thing at a time, and really taking the time learning it

its also important that you learn as you go, and then move on...

you have to repeat the process

[remote lynx]

Although visuals are a half-decent herald to what a game can actually do

[tawdry sequoia]

basically, development is persistient,~~ but so is war.~~

[tidal trench]

cos going through one thing doesn't do justice to you

[remote lynx]

Better graphics tend to mean a better engine, which in turns usually means better interaction

Take vaulting in fps games, for example

Shit's gotten better

War Thunder's damage models on tanks wouldn't be possible on an engine from 2004

[tidal trench]

its also funny cos everyone expects that as long as you use unreal, you'll make a good game

[remote lynx]

Hell, if I could trade half of today's graphics for better features and gameplay, I would

[tawdry sequoia]

wot?

Unreal means good???

[remote lynx]

In that regard, DnD still has a leg up compared to games

[tidal trench]

hey, just my observation. haha

unreal's editor has this light "post-processing" while developing.

so things look way better as you add more visuals into your game

[remote lynx]

Destruction is another thing, although I remember a dev figuring out a way to do efficient destruction on a city block scale.

[tidal trench]

whereas Unity, you have to manually add it before you can start tosee the beauty

[tawdry sequoia]

well, guess I can't see why unreal engine makes games good cause foxhole is the only UE 4 game that doesn't crash on launch on my PC

[remote lynx]

I'd settle for simple 3D if it means the gameplay has depth, and I don't mean kiddy pools like Fallout or Stellaris

[tidal trench]

that's because unreal usually demands a lot of resources

[remote lynx]

Hell, go look at Space Empires V for that. Graphics and UI are shit. Optimization is even shittier. But by god does the depth of the gameplay shine.

[tidal trench]

and with the visual fidelity that unreal offers, it comes with high requirements as well.

yeah.

there's a lot of games i've yet to tap on as well :>

<---- this guy spends a lot of time not lookin at other games cos he's busy doing a game

ask the other devs here

they know the struggle

[remote lynx]

If Stellaris is a sandbox, Space Empires V is a desert.

👌

[tidal trench]

you'll probably get to a point in life where you'll tell me "shit, that's out already?"

lmao

[remote lynx]

Best would probably be to combine the best qualities of both

SE5 is from... 2005, I think

[tawdry sequoia]

reminds me of M&B

[remote lynx]

2006*

@tawdry sequoia Another such game. Graphics and UI mediocre at best, gameplay is marvellous.

[tawdry sequoia]

game play is top kek

[remote lynx]

Depending on the mod, it really shines

Go check out TLD if you haven't already. It's top notch. 👌

From an art perspective

(TLD = The Last Days)

'night

[tawdry sequoia]

well, that adds to the massive "To dump into my HDD" list of M&B mods

[high ledge]

Whats goin on here?

[tawdry sequoia]

it was over before you knew it was started teleports behind

[remote lynx]

@tawdry sequoia I suspect I've put the most time into TLD out of all the mods I've played

Uruk Hai are

Gondor's pretty rad too

now I'm going to sign off

[tawdry sequoia]

👋

[tidal trench]

was fun 😄

[old hollow]

Commend to anyone who draws me a warden dabbing on a howi.

[flint parrot]

🥖
🎺 ⚒ 🔧

[woven flint]

^ better commend patch

[pliant spindle]

today is bring your origami to work day
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276353780616790016/469518363266252832/IMG_20180719_105801.jpg

[obtuse mountain]

looks like abunch of nanobots ready to consume us

[loud walrus]

oooh my Gosh what is that ? @pliant spindle

An unidentified alien's artifact ?

[buoyant crest]

That is some neatly wrinkled paper

[pliant spindle]

@loud walrus Hahahaha. it could be XD

[loud walrus]

Don't release it outside

It will eat the world 😐

[mystic escarp]

Make it bigger

[loud walrus]

keep it in a Farraday's Cage @pliant spindle

Or a Magnetized room

[modest oyster]

@pliant spindle I don't know why. But I want that xD

[hollow sand]

Looks like chain

[pliant spindle]

because it's pretty cool?

XD

[modest oyster]

Mail it to me and I will love it forever. xD And sneak a monitor in there too. I need a new one to play all my games again. xD

[pliant spindle]

@modest oyster You can have one yourself. It just took me 700+ pieces of paper and a fair amount of time

@modest oyster if you want me to mail it to you........ it might be a bit expensive XD

[olive cove]

How long did it take to make @pliant spindle

[modest oyster]

700+? Holy crap xD

[pliant spindle]

@olive cove I don't know the exact time, since I did it in my off hours. But I think about 2 months, between folding (the easy part) and putting it together (the hard part of it)

[olive cove]

Damn

[pliant spindle]

@modest oyster 756, to be exact. It's not my largest in terms of number of units, but by far is the one it was the hardest to put together

[modest oyster]

It's impressive. I don't think I could ever do that. I have patience and all. But even that might drive me crazy xD

[fleet crescent]

It’s a sad day again

I left the HB marine in the sun

He is now deformed but savable

Saveable*

[white snow]

oh no

[loud walrus]

700 pieces of paper ? Oh gosh REALLY GOOD JOB BY THE WAY @pliant spindle

[buoyant crest]

@fleet crescent dead! how did screw that up lol

[fleet crescent]

hes not dead

its just gone soft and sorta drooped forwards

all i need to do is steam it

(use steam to soften it and then reshape it)

[remote lynx]

@tidal trench Aaaand I'm back

[obtuse mountain]

wardenbuzzsaw.jpeg

[covert sparrow]

[wintry cedar]

@obtuse mountain remove upper half of the tank body

[obtuse mountain]

wrong

EMOJI

GOD DAMN IT

[obtuse mountain]

@wintry cedar

i might make tracks smaller

or replace them with wheels

i want it to be like a luches though

🤔

[wintry cedar]

Cut upper part i said

[obtuse mountain]

which upper part

upper part of tracks?

of hull?

cause i cut upper part of upper hull

[wintry cedar]

Hull @obtuse mountain

[obtuse mountain]

kk

[ashen oriole]

daddy comradee

[high ledge]

Wardens should have a logo with like a knight outline in background
colonials maybe some kind of industrial complex design
Thoughts ?

im a terrible artist

[wintry cedar]

@ashen oriole what, soldier

[ashen oriole]

daddyyyy

idk

[wintry cedar]

HANDS OFF SOLDIER

[ashen oriole]

turns into a pancake

[wintry cedar]

ONE HUNDRED BILLION MILLION THOUSAND PUSH UPS!

[obtuse mountain]

it got worse

[ashen oriole]

oh no why

val y u du dis

[obtuse mountain]

i fixed track

beep beep i can only fit 2 guys

[ashen oriole]

COUNT ME IN

[fleet crescent]

Good news

HES BACK

AND BETTE THAN EVER

@pulsar grail @karmic stream @tardy coral

[odd berry]

Mister sir random private

[karmic stream]

The buzzsaw is that an AA tank or Female (ww1 terms) Machine gun tank.

[wild vortex]

That's a man who's seen too much...

[obtuse mountain]

@karmic stream kind of like a tankette with a bigger gun

i did convert a picture of a flak 38 for the turret after all

[buoyant crest]

its fixed? interestting

[fleet crescent]

@wild vortex he survived a total of 39 primaris intercessors (boltgun trooper) 5 hellblasters Robute guilliman a leviathan and contemptor dreadnaught and a shitload of other stuff being dropped on him while freerk was watching it live

he is one tough son of a bitch

[deep gull]

Just an idea I had

[warm vale]

ey peeps anyone does anyone have a warden/collie helmet model? just the helmet

[olive cove]

@deep gull I feel like that'd create so many problems

[peak rover]

@warm vale what I am using in a current project so modify it if you use it

[warm vale]

nah i need more of a upfront shot

to create my ultimate shitpost

[tidal trench]

lol

@warm vale

I have this one.

it's high-resolution.

[warm vale]

👌

[loud walrus]

nice substance painter rusty layer by the way on the helmet 😃 it renders pretty cool

[buoyant crest]

Request to create a folder of helmets and other in game items for reference purposes

Because that stuff is hard to find on google and asking it here everytime takes a while

[summer field]

helmet?

i thought it's easy to find on google

[buoyant crest]

Helmets, yeah, but some other stuff is harder

[summer field]

i usually just take reference from their sketch tho

[buoyant crest]

me too, but it always takes me a while to find the right sketch on their website

hence a folder might help

certainly for the people less aware of the possible references their are missing

[summer field]

did you use their sketchfab

?

[buoyant crest]

yeah

[summer field]

it should be much more useful

[buoyant crest]

But 1: that costs a lot of resources computer wise 2: for a quick meme it may be more usefull to already have drawings, 3: they are in-game models which are a little less detailed than the sketches

or drawings

[summer field]

oh memes, that's why lol

someone might have that on their folder

[buoyant crest]

For example memes

or for people "less artistic" who may want to use parts of other stuff

[white snow]

The 3d sketchfabs do not want to work no matter what I do

I see how this is helpful

sketchfab website isnt exactly the fastest

[warm vale]

all thanks to @tidal trench for giving me the helmet pic

it turned out better than i thought it would

[tidal trench]

Lol

[tidal trench]

https://80.lv/articles/the-last-of-us-multiplayer-level-design-process/

[high ledge]

i'd love to make a sound mod

meh

[fleet crescent]

i imagine each vehicle woud be a dev going uuuh as the driving sound

[peak rover]

Powered by the voice of HB @fleet crescent

[fleet crescent]

i would have used a more rounded front and where is the mail slot!

[wintry cedar]

I think, that it turret looks wierd on that hull, cuz it always reminds me about BRD G1

[peak rover]

This is a side view it uses an m4 body and a kv 85 turret both a very rounded

[high ledge]

That turret

sooo german

[silk fulcrum]

what ?

[high ledge]

that's from vk series of prototypes

[silk fulcrum]

hwat

wat

[peak rover]

@high ledge it’s a Russian KV-85 turret

With a panzer IV gun

[high ledge]

that's 88 kwk

oh right

lol

[peak rover]

No it a panzer IV it took the gun from it

[high ledge]

those skirts ha

[peak rover]

The tank has the body of a firefly side skirts and gun of a panzer IV the turret Of a kv85 and commander hatch of a tiger II

[high ledge]

commanders hatch?

no

[peak rover]

?

[high ledge]

well maybe

[peak rover]

It all drawnover photos

[high ledge]

idk what devs going to do

i doubt there will be more tanks in the future

[peak rover]

They said they would like to add more tanks in the future

Just not now because they need to fix a lot of bugs

[vague dust]

Quality of life updates.

Emotes I can go without, but vehicle minimaps, yes please!

[high ledge]

no

we need emotes

[vague dust]

Why though?

[buoyant crest]

Roleplay, duh

Its a sandbox game

[vague dust]

We already have Discord to carry out group strategies.

For roleplaying I can understand, but in actual gameplay, it's useless.

[buoyant crest]

Well, if you dont go solely on the game itself and add discord and other tools as well, you could argue the map might not be completly nessarly

[odd berry]

That doesnt look very medical

[fallen halo]

Looks like a pokemon badge

[vague dust]

The leaf badge from Pokemon Red and Blue maybe?

[solar fiber]

[obtuse mountain]

i wanted to use white and red but that's not allowed in games 😢

[solar fiber]

👌

[obtuse mountain]

actually i'm dumb it can be red and white it just can have a red cross

WHELP

no-fractal-version

[noble cargo]

autowardens assemble

autowardens roll out

[vague dust]

Lol

[obtuse mountain]

entire group of riflemen transform into light tanks

[vague dust]

And they're against the Colonicons.

[noble cargo]

sounds about right

[zinc notch]

@obtuse mountain yes thats how we would recolor warden flags after your defeat!

Erp i was respo ding to green one

[obtuse mountain]

YOU'LL NEVER RECOLOR US COLONIAL SCUM!

[wind night]

We just did

[gritty cypress]

[marsh eagle]

@obtuse mountain looks great! Reminds me of my CH themed logos

[obtuse mountain]

CH themed?

[wind night]

Yeah

He colored them pink @obtuse mountain

[obtuse mountain]

o

[white snow]

that warden logo reminds me of something

this

[mystic escarp]

Oh hey look

Revive when

[silk fulcrum]

its ded

and will forever be so

[latent torrent]

Waiting inside your destroyed halftrack for the enemy like

[marsh eagle]

@white snow @mystic escarp @silk fulcrum SSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DON'T REMIND THEM OF OUR PLANNNNSSSSS

[mystic escarp]

sikrit documents

[silk fulcrum]

but daddy

[covert sparrow]

[feral prairie]

👏 this speech deserved to be an art

[silk fulcrum]

i have heard many story of 10cce weeb channel

it seems like the legend is real

[white snow]

its only a shipping container

where they wait before they get shipped off go syo, salt, or any other designated weeb dropoff points

[feral prairie]

Nah we got our own specialty

The Holy Copa

[regal forge]

Beautiful

[solar fiber]

@marsh eagle why am i not part of sekrit plans

[gritty cypress]

Lmao look at that total weeb

[fleet crescent]

New setup that makes streaming my art a bit easier

Also I’m sorting bits, please no one else attempt this because you will cry from finding those missing bits from when you first started the hobby

@karmic stream since you know my pain and @tardy coral because you said you liked warhammer

[tidal trench]

@pulsar grail the absolute madman, allowed me to have a hold of his art assets.

https://gfycat.com/MajorOffbeatAsiantrumpetfish

[limpid axle]

unity

[tidal trench]

For about an hour of doing the basics, and slicing the assets for tiling, Sgt. Shotty can move, camera is following him (by making the camera into a child (dont judge))

[limpid axle]

pedocam

[tidal trench]

?

[limpid axle]

its a child

following sgt shotty

somewhere

[solar fiber]

@tidal trench this mobile game?

[tidal trench]

not really.

Mobile development is a bit painful to deal with.

So I'll just keep it as a desktop game :p

[solar fiber]

nic illl definatly play it if its free

and possibly if my parents will let me, buy it

[tidal trench]

it's definitely gonna be free hahaha

It's only a personal license, and im practically using Foxhole's theme, and art.

so I might get legally sued if Im to sell this

[solar fiber]

ok thats true

[faint egret]

Idk what to add to this ??

[tidal trench]

the uniform's certainly different.

[faint egret]

Artistic licence

=p

[tidal trench]

you can add an environment around the person

like what is it that the person's happy about

[faint egret]

🤔

I might attempt a warden tank ?

[solar fiber]

@tidal trench when do you think it will be done, next year? a few months? 2 years?

[tidal trench]

Well, depends on how much time I can give on it, and how indepth Freerk and I can go about it haha

[solar fiber]

nice you guys should possibly discord maby

[tidal trench]

well, we do talk in DMs :p

its just a really small for fun project.

[solar fiber]

ah

but what if it gets bigger?

what about all the bug reports

[tidal trench]

it really just depends on our free time. 😄

[solar fiber]

ah

alright

well ill definatly play this

[faint egret]

Made a mess off a revolver lol

Any ideas on how to fix it up a little?

[solar fiber]

pry color

[faint egret]

I mean the revolver

[solar fiber]

oh make the trigger cover smaller and more round

[faint egret]

Ok

[solar fiber]

@faint egret like this

[faint egret]

That any better?

[solar fiber]

yes

[faint egret]

Need to add a background now

[summer field]

That thin clothing reminds me of tropical uniforms

[quaint pier]

forearm seems disproportioned to the upper arm

[faint egret]

Hmm

I see that now

[white snow]

our revolver is slightly longer than that iirc

barrel

[faint egret]

I might just get rid of the front arms

[flint parrot]

Yes, our revolver is gud

I prefer the longer ones to stubby

[faint egret]

Idk I suck at hands and arms

[quaint pier]

forearms are usually about a head length long

with the fingertips to shoulder being 3.5 heads long combined

[faint egret]

That's interesting to know

[quaint pier]

that's going off realistic proportions though

if you do a full body it's roughly 7.25-7.75 heads from top of the head to flats of the feet

[faint egret]

I don't normally draw so I don't know the tricks of the trade

[flint parrot]

Yeah, there's charts showing that kind of anatomy stuff. Proportions being off is usually the biggest thing that looks off in a person

Hands from the wrist to the tip of the fingers should be long enough to reach from the chin to the forehead

You can get a feel for that if you put your wrist against your chin and try to touch your forehead

[faint egret]

Idk the slightly larger head makes her look cute in my opinion

Be it a less realistic image

[quaint pier]

well you can still use a large head, but have a regular head to measure porportions

a regular head porportion can be drawn slightly like an egg

but imagine the egg is not pointed on one side

[faint egret]

Oh ok

That makes sense

[quaint pier]

i might recommend porportiong the body features and then adding the head you wish at the end

[faint egret]

In this case I drew the head first

And the body was just an after thought

[quaint pier]

all good, you can draw another body and then transfer the head over

[faint egret]

Like sketching?

[quaint pier]

if you have a glass table put a light under it for help transfering

and yeah

sketch out some proportions for practice

[faint egret]

Think it's ok for an hours work

Needs some more tho

[quaint pier]

yeah, i mean art can take awhile to do

[faint egret]

I kinda do it when I feel like it

[quaint pier]

what kind of medium do you use also? like mechanical or woodn pencil

[faint egret]

Mech

[quaint pier]

try switching to wooden

[faint egret]

And a rubber

[quaint pier]

mech gives lines more of a edge, whereas wood is typically smoother

[faint egret]

Whys that?

[wintry cedar]

FIND OUT WHERE I WILL SHOOT RIGHT NOW!

[quaint pier]

neptune, it's because of how thin and hard mech lead is usually

there's less sharp marks on paper from wooden pencil

i have used mech pencils for drafting and note taking only

[faint egret]

Idk I'll have to try it and see which I prefer

@wintry cedar lol

[quaint pier]

i own like 12 different types of wooden pencils for sketching; they have different hardness

charcoal is still my favorite as it allows for deep blacks to be shown

[quaint pier]

as for the clothing, try adjusting it to show the body more

likely folds and ripples

[faint egret]

How would I do that?

[quaint pier]

well for starters, the body here is straight and squarish

give the body some form and then decide if you wish to have tight or baggy clothes

i.e. smaller waste, wider hips, longer neck, or bigger buste

[faint egret]

🤔

[quaint pier]

those are just ways to give the body shape

for clothes getting detail such as folds or texture, look at actual clothes on people or mannequins

here, ill share a pic i did of some fabric

[faint egret]

I'd appreciate that

[quaint pier]

so that's a still life with drapery in the back

i used a chair to prop up the fabric and give it shape

likely how a body would prop up clothes

[faint egret]

I found something hilarious looking for baggy folds ect

[quaint pier]

that is a tad ridiculous, but i'll share just a regular picture of a woman in a coat and then analyze it

[faint egret]

I added a pencil skirt to her

I'm thinking of also adding a holster to a belt

[quaint pier]

guess i can't add a picture too soon

[faint egret]

???

[quaint pier]

see how the waist comes out more

and then how the buste is lsightly out

likely an hourglass

it's rare to have a body look like a square going from the arm pits to the waist

give it some curve

[quaint pier]

and then also consider how thick the clothes are

[faint egret]

Something like this?

[quaint pier]

yeah, better

now give thickness to the jacket

since jackets aren't paper thin

[faint egret]

Hmm

I'm going for something like an officer jacket

[quaint pier]

like have it overhang or stick out more than the skirt, to show that it goes over

[faint egret]

Hmm

[quaint pier]

mind if i use the picture to show what i mean?

[faint egret]

I added a round bottom

And go ahead

[quaint pier]

so where the skirt and jacket meet

note that they're not one entity

it makes it look more like the skirt is clinging to the waist, and the jacket is hanging over like they do

and since the waist sticks out more, you can show some folds in the jacket where it interacts with the shape of the body

just keep in mind that clothes have thickness, so try to show that.

[wintry cedar]

Fix left eye maybe

Make as right one

[faint egret]

in what way?

[quaint pier]

jacket is way better than original flat/square shape

[faint egret]

thanks for the help 😄

[quaint pier]

i usually draw a body of rough proportions first, then slowly layer clothes over

could even apply same principle to the neck likely you did the waist

necks tend to branch out near the bottom, and go into the shoulder

with how frail the person is in the picture, it would only be a slight angle

[faint egret]

branch out?

should i make the arms a little thicker?

[quaint pier]

Yeah. The neck muscles tend to Branch out like so

[faint egret]

oh ok

[quaint pier]

Likely the hips

Arms are up to you. Thin are are realistic, but try to add some details to the arms like patches, kinks, or texture

Patches rise out of clothes usually

Kinks are found where joints are usually

And texture can be represented by hatching, scratches, stippling, or shading with a medium

I'll see if I can find some older sketches of people to show later

[faint egret]

How's that?

[ashen oriole]

looks pretty dope

better than the previous

[faint egret]

Thanks

I think that's me for the night tho so I'll probs continue tomorrow

Cheers for the help chaps

[ashen oriole]

kk

[leaden arch]

I dont want to be an azzhole but Its bad

[zinc notch]

He's drawing and improving that is what matters.

[summer field]

Drawing is an acquired skill, if you stopped drawing you'll never get good.

Tbh it looks like my drawing 4 years ago lol

[leaden arch]

Are you 12?

Yes thats true if you draw a lot you eventually get better

But there is some talents involved

[tidal trench]

I started drawing at 4 with stickmans

Over 10 years of experimentation, i can start learning to draw anime.

Without all those technicalities and guidelines

[summer field]

I'm 20 lol

[tidal trench]

5 years later, i stopped when I saw peopledoing digital art

[leaden arch]

@tidal trench can you show me one of your drawn sexy animu waifu?

[summer field]

Lasso tool is a godsend

[tidal trench]

It discouraged me, and didnt draw for 4~5 years.

Within 4 to 5 years, i couldve been good at it now.

Starting today and practicing is what counts.

@leaden archi dont know how to draw female characters

[leaden arch]

Im 23 drawing since i pooped in diapers stopped 5 years ago because of job dont have time for silly things like that

[tidal trench]

Let alone draw a whole body.

[leaden arch]

I remember drawing girls from class naked when i was going to school back in the good old days.

[summer field]

Ehh, i wouldn't call drawing silly since i draw for a reason

[leaden arch]

I ment drawing just for fun

Drawing + animation this shit is good

@tidal trench show me something you draw if you want i would be pleased to see it

[tidal trench]

Old drawings? Thats tough cos I never kept sketches hahaha

[summer field]

you heard the man, he wants to be pleased

[tidal trench]

Once I was done with them, i just throw away the drawings

I was able to keep this though. 6 years ago, Someone asked me to take the drawing instead, she knew i was gonna throw it away

I made this... 3rd year highschool at the time i think?

[modest oyster]

Nice

[leaden arch]

Nice

I love when people use shades in sketches

Its turning me on

But not bad seriously

[tidal trench]

I only did shades because I have no clue how to color. Lmao

[leaden arch]

Oof

I never used colors

Colors are for children

[tidal trench]

Lol

[leaden arch]

Maybe i have some old drawings of mine left imma check

[tidal trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/204662526464622592/447938621438296076/Screenshot_20180521-094534_1.jpg

And this was my first and last attempt in coloring

Hahaha

Used those color pencils

The shading wasnt particularly hard...it was the coloring itself since I had no idea.

[leaden arch]

Threw them all away apperantly

[tidal trench]

(And yes, I trashed this drawing too once i was done with it)

[leaden arch]

One i can say i could not colored it like that

I hated it

Nice one

[tidal trench]

It was for a finals

I had like 3 attempts

Hahaha

[atomic latch]

@tidal trench that looks niceeeeee

👍

[tidal trench]

And that's too bad @leaden arch

I cant say its a shame

But it would be great if you can show some

@atomic latch thanks. I got it trashed 3 years ago anyway

[leaden arch]

I just have tear in my eye thinking i may lost all my drawings

I will chceck interwebs

[leaden arch]

Welp after searching for hour all i could found at this moment is some boredom sketchtoy doodles from 2013

https://sketchtoy.com/58743711#_=_

https://sketchtoy.com/58727567#_=_

Drawing with computer mouse makes me want to die

Im amazed after 5 years they are still there

[peak rover]

Any ideas for a new story to write

[high ledge]

i would post my art here but it's no longer sfw