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solar verge
solar verge
Erotic is?
Or just edge?
Hmmmm edge is?
Lel
Oof
@floral hinge I'm logi, so no I'm not
We're grinding our way using war of attrition in FC
bleak beacon
@toxic lagoon when testing damages on the Armoured Car
toxic lagoon
Touche
slender vapor
Not even a paticularly good one
bleak beacon
I would spam RPG jeeps all day
fervent bane
The shells and ammunitions themselves should be somewhat easy to obtain. However transport should be the limiting factor. Ie. don't allow heavy ammunition stacking in vehicles whose main focus is NOT material transport.
bleak beacon
Mortar jeep crew is super effective
toxic lagoon
fervent bane
No please. Enough blueprint locking things. All they do is prevent those who have less time from being able to use these features.
toxic lagoon
slender vapor
But tau, how else would they change it?
burnt ocean
fervent bane
Like I said, make it an issue of transporting the ammunition.
fervent bane
Can someone write or temporarily pin the topic that is the focus of discussion? It'd also be nice to a list of things we end up discussing.
@floral hinge Disable ammo stacking, and reduce the amounts infantry can carry on themselves.
floral hinge
there is no ammo stacking for mortar
also people use jeeps to transport them anyways
you only need 8 shells to kill tier 2 fob
4 for tier 1
fervent bane
I am making a general statement really. Eg. tanks with 99 shells. HT with 100 clips etc...
bleak beacon
That's something that was suggested some time ago to have the satchel be throwable, and add an actual planted powerful explosive that could be remotely detonated @toxic lagoon
floral hinge
yeah but mortar does need to be addressed the fact that the tube does not have blueprint to me is bit wild
with how much power they have in meta
of fobwalls
bleak beacon
Like settings up explosives to detonate a bridge
fervent bane
Yes, we need to figure out a new way than to just throw everything behind blueprints. It makes production so dreary.
floral hinge
so why are blueprints an issue
slender vapor
because it imposes arbitrary limits
fervent bane
Just the implementation is convoluted to me and ^
fervent bane
If something is unlocked, its unlocked. If all you want is a time lock, let it work like how crates are made in WFs
It is an unnecessary step.
silent geyser
blueprints do force some more planning and prep, but it can suck for people that don't have a lot of time to play
burnt ocean
fervent bane
The planning can still be done if you just could queue vehicles from vehicle factories and they took that much time to build.
Will drastically reduce vehicle numbers and also make them more meaningful
floral hinge
yeah i rather have blueprints with organized group and pump them out like crazy
like i do right now
fervent bane
That's the point. It is good if you have time and a pre-existing, cooperating group.
floral hinge
4h 20m after we unlocked HTs we had 12 HTs
fervent bane
The game needs to move towards mechanics that make that level of coordination accessible to everyone.
floral hinge
isnt this game about cooperating groups?
fervent bane
It is, you're not catching the gist of my point I feel
floral hinge
so you think that Blueprints hurt randoms?
if people are not making their blueprints all the time they are doing things wrong
same with emats
fervent bane
Essentially content is behing locked behind tedium.
fervent bane
The organized ones are willing to go through the tedium. Those with less time cannot.
And even if you are one of the organized ones, it just isnt a fun way to play.
floral hinge
bleuprints aint that bad comprered to rmats
or emats
blueprints take seconds
and then are just waittime
fervent bane
It is still a systematic problem. I shouldn't argue to myself, oh okay, I'll spend 3 hours scrapping planning blueprints and then I'll get to feel good when my side makes progress. The process itself should be fun too.
floral hinge
but it takes few seconds to get enough scrap for blueprint
fervent bane
I'm not talking the scrap cost for individual blueprints, it's all about the time costs.
bleak beacon
fervent bane
Also, why do I have to use scrap for a blueprint in the first place? why not just request it from the tech center?
fervent bane
It's layers of time waste
floral hinge
it makes them more of a limited resourse
hell i would love if killing VF would destroy blueprints
silent geyser
oh that would make that so much more impactful
floral hinge
would make them interesting tragets
bleak beacon
We stole a Colonial fmg this war in Deadlands it pretty much allowed us to push the last 2 Collie citys there
fervent bane
Limiting should be achieved in other ways. If I don't want someone to go somewhere, I'd first try to put fences - not chop off all their limbs.
floral hinge
how would you limit it then
silent geyser
do you have an idea of how to do it then?
bleak beacon
Yeah
floral hinge
fmgs are great early on
tropic sail
and we were in a stalemate before it
floral hinge
they break those early sieges
fervent bane
I won't claim I have all the answers. Different mechanics have to be tried. out, but people get accustomed to the current way things work and don't imagine better ways.
tropic sail
then on warden side it was a fight between ffl 82dk and nnf on using it
bleak beacon
Heh
fervent bane
You could remove the blueprints entirely. Just allow vehicle requistion queues at VFs
I don't see any fundamental difference.
if the time cost was the production time akin to weapon factories.
silent geyser
wouldn't the VF get bogged up then?
slender vapor
He is right
fervent bane
And vehicle spam will be greatly reduced
slender vapor
Currently people only use the portbase VFs
fervent bane
No more insta 6 pack ACs
bleak beacon
APCs are pretty much useless now
fervent bane
you have 30 minute intervals between each individual AC
slender vapor
I've never seen someone build a large amount of vehicles in a town that is not the portbase
bleak beacon
Unless you do cheeky APC strats
fervent bane
then infantry have to support their teams vehicles.
And the focus will shift from I want my own vehicle to we want to support our limited armor groups
bleak beacon
Howiz are okey now
I would not buff it's damage, they would become too effective against buildings
polar trench
fervent bane
On top of everything I've said, we can get rid of the whack a mole hammering to build vehicles.
floral hinge
lol
silent geyser
okay I will say that makes both vehicles and building quite annoying
like a little bit of it is fine
fervent bane
what makes it annoying? the hammering?
silent geyser
but doing either for an extended period of time
the "let me hold down left click for minutes"
thank god we don't have to click for each hit
imagine that horror
fervent bane
EXACTLY and I've said it before. It isn't any fun to hold down while the CV builds a 300 bmat structure.
floral hinge
but yeah mortar are bit strong right now and this is why we have used 400? shells in 2 days
silent geyser
damn
slender vapor
probably more
bleak beacon
Bring back sulfur refinery 
fervent bane
Let the CVs autobuild once you set up the structure as long as the mats are available.
floral hinge
^
silent geyser
still operated by a player though I assume
fervent bane
I'd welcome much greater changes that make it more rewarding and fun. The process should be fun, not only the hope that someone makes good use of something you've slaved away in hours.
slender vapor
@toxic lagoon you guys should update the images on the store page. It still has the 1st version HT model
silent geyser
component farming is at least more fun with two people
dusky gust
rmats are a pain
fervent bane
I second everything Icanari has said. It is only timers.
If you haven't seen it yet, I highly suggest people check out Qloos' idea for auto-mines
floral hinge
the only way to enjoy logi is to make things in a dedicated group and then blow through that stuff
silent geyser
you know what annoys me about component farming
when someone outside your group shows up
and starts nabbing your nodes
like it is not their fault if they want to be useful, but it is annoying
floral hinge
fights over nodes lol
silent geyser
because the respawn is so long
floral hinge
this is my node get out 
fervent bane
Well said, where is the fun when you're sitting alone in the back of the maps. Then you have to go sniff out the passing partisans.
floral hinge
i hate building
bleak beacon
It's a pain
floral hinge
because decay
silent geyser
building sucks
floral hinge
but someone has to
silent geyser
yes
floral hinge
yeah fucking decaying boxes...
fervent bane
silent geyser
my best component farming experience was one war where I was just listening to podcasts and waiting for it to respawn at the single node
very inefficient
but really chill
fervent bane
Qloos' document. Look at the scrap mining idea specifically.
silent geyser
the hunt for shells would be even better
summer robin
need wider roads for more traffic 
dusky gust
@toxic lagoon half would like it half would hate it
summer robin
partisans
bleak beacon
^
silent geyser
^
tropic sail
^
summer robin
nothing is more stressful then the thought that some person comes and blows your shit up
bleak beacon
I feel save on my scrap base
silent geyser
yup
summer robin
most stressful part of the logi
silent geyser
you don't feel 100% safe while driving so you can't completely chill out
bleak beacon
Not only that you used to have multiple people on one scrap yard because how fast the scrap spawn was, with was fun to sit with people
silent geyser
now more than one person per scrapyard is a waste
bleak beacon
Now you just sit alone and drive alone
silent geyser
afaik
torn cliff
Attano make a list @bleak beacon
bleak beacon
List why old logi was better and more enjoyable 101
floral hinge
lol
silent geyser
I've done the thing where I picked up scrap to refine and make weapons
torn cliff
With Professor Attano
summer robin
would the idea of scheduled "supply drops" be something that'd be bad
every day of the war, ya get an injection of Bmats 
dusky gust
HT jeep whatever is avalible
floral hinge
i was just being a bit of an ass but yeah
bleak beacon
Right now I just cook sulfur
toxic lagoon
lol attano
bleak beacon
4k a day
fervent bane
It is mindless to circle the back lines. Do you realize that the entire satisfaction is only from the delivery and not the process itself?
summer robin
attano playing Idlehole
bleak beacon
Just drive around 2 nodes fill up 3 refinerys and 10 hours later 4k
tropic sail
has anyone talked about bringing back sulfur refineries yet?
fervent bane
I don't get the arguments of I can do something else while I stand in once place and scrap. Sure it is fun and relaxing because you have something else to do. I'd rather the game itself was what engaged me.
bleak beacon
Please add back sulfur refineries
At least I could build my own factory
People like to build bases
Get attached to what they made
torn cliff
the sulfur towns
thorn chasm
How hard is to blow one up?
thorn chasm
Because I feel it'd be easy to grief with the refineries
bleak beacon
Eh no clue
thorn chasm
eeeeeh
toxic lagoon
@bleak beacon Elaborate on that. Why do you want refineries back?
I assume you're talking about the war games refineries
torn cliff
Yeah
bleak beacon
Yes
thorn chasm
Mhm
tropic sail
because they are a great way to have a steady flow of emats if you orginise it proberly
dusky gust
^
thorn chasm
It's much nicer than the mess that goes on around the regular refineries
bleak beacon
It would make logi more interesting, it would be nice to build up a giant production facility driven by players
tropic sail
nicer than the "let me q up 2k emats so when i wake up and done with work/school it should be about to finish"
thorn chasm
But being able to place them anywhere you like worries me
bleak beacon
Right now it's just, hop in mine 1.4 k sulfur put in one refinery wait 10h
thorn chasm
^
bleak beacon
Come next day
thorn chasm
Still refining
bleak beacon
Refinery ment you could only cook for 30 minutes or one hour
You stayed and cooked
In your own little base
But really I just want to build a base that's actually doing something
torn cliff
Refineries mean less timers and solo work and encourages teamwork and planning to get sulfur immediately if needed
bleak beacon
And doesn't decay in 2 days
torn cliff
Yeah
I just feel that you should be able to build/make whatever you need in at least an hour to counter whatever the enemy is has brought
solar verge
I immediately regret my decisions in joining the vc
bleak beacon
Lol
solar verge
My internet is shitty af
torn cliff
like the only restriction should be manpower and work
marble arrow
what we discussing?
slender vapor
everything
floral hinge
logi
bleak beacon
Logi in general now
marble arrow
lk
floral hinge
right now'
marble arrow
k*
torn cliff
If theres 5 tanks attacking and you need 100 RPGs in one hour and if you have 15 logi people then they should be able to make it one hour
bleak beacon
Yeah last time I was actually doing logi I got lost in my own stopwatch
floral hinge
😄
floral hinge
i use my phone
torn cliff
If I was a solo logi guy
dusky gust
@toxic lagoon one of the things i was trying to bring up was that tanks used to be rare and an important resource and now they are just kinda spammed. like you said the shells are worth more than the tank
torn cliff
and there were requests for sulfur or rmats
Right now
I would have to respond by saying I can get a truck full of those for you
By tommorrow
bleak beacon
Pretty much
floral hinge
lol
bleak beacon
Or you could drive around all maps, put stuff in small number in every refinery but that's just
PAIN
torn cliff
exactly
bleak beacon
PAIN
solar verge
Eww no
floral hinge
lol attano
torn cliff
see
solar verge
I'd rather quit foxhole than do that
floral hinge
sulphuring
toxic lagoon
- A choice between driving and scrapping
- Sulfur timers are a pain point/bottleneck
- Timers are bad in general.
- Slow trickle of materials.
you can keep the current timing rate for sulfur
but it would be nice if we could build Sulfur refineries
bleak beacon
Factorio in Foxhole?
solar verge
Timers aren't bad, but by late game, barely anyone is making emats
torn cliff
so that we can use 10 of them at the same time in one town
dusky gust
there are two camps. those who like to drive and those who like to scrap.
floral hinge
lol
solar verge
I don't hate scrapping, but the yield need a buff
torn cliff
there are two camps. those who like to drive and those who are right
bleak beacon
I like to cook sulfur
floral hinge
place mines in sirs little dream
solar verge
Like 500 scrap yields per node
floral hinge
i only hate components
dusky gust
lol clockwise
floral hinge
90 per node makes me hate life
bleak beacon
^
solar verge
And 180 rmats per node
floral hinge
180 or 300 is almost okey
solar verge
Sulfur is also needing a buff
floral hinge
but that 90...
solar verge
In quantity
floral hinge
yeah
outer geode
Sir's dream place.
bleak beacon
Lol
floral hinge
lol
solar verge
150 yield for rmats is okay enough for me
floral hinge
mostly i do sulphur + components in places where they are super close
bleak beacon
@toxic lagoon what is actually the dev stance on the FOB spam?
floral hinge
^
solar verge
No nerfing logi by limiting FOB spam
shell compass
flashback
floral hinge
😉
bleak beacon
It's literally cancer
floral hinge
we did not have fun building them seth
bleak beacon
And you need that cancer
solar verge
But it is a necessary
toxic lagoon
@bleak beacon Even the dev team is split on that issue, but its not game-impacting right now so we're living with it. But there's enough division that I would expect a change to it
dusky gust
cough cough bring tunnels back cough cough
silent geyser
I remember not playing for a day or two and then logging in and then just see a map of green
solar verge
I ain't doing logi if the road isn't clear
solar verge
Why would I bother if my supplies have 50% chance if being stolen or my truck intercepted
bleak beacon
Callahan is the great map to build, since you have all the bottlenecks
So you actually don't need to build that much
bleak beacon
Ye
solar verge
Timers aren't inherently bad, but the current iteration is bad
No more Emats required for nades pls
dusky gust
all those points are good, nothings more annoying than pulling out 10k emats and not knowing what to do with them
soft river
@silent geyser truck docks YES
dusky gust
also what kommisar said no more emats for nades
bleak beacon
Ready the hate bucket
silent geyser
summer robin
nope, everyone on my team is against me
everyone but myself is a spy. Including myself
floral hinge
mhm
solar verge
Logi is the core of the game reeee
bleak beacon
well as long as I get ability to build up my own facilities that produces whatever I'm happy
Logipain.png
shell compass
bleak beacon
No you won't get to blow it up, go away Seth
@tawdry pine make 1k trucks that would make people cry
tawdry pine
burnt ocean
Overthrow attano when
ocean olive
So emat refineries are a go? Devs pls
haughty canopy
@vague relic sup
vague relic
Alrighty
haughty canopy
-The Foxhole version of PUBG or Hunger Games
-Players start with pistol or revolver
-2 cornucopias exist with a large cache of weapons
-Boxes laid around the arena contain weapons, fuel and mats
-Abandoned vehicles can be refueled and used
-Once someone has died, inform the staff so the artillery can be fired to inform players someone has died
@vague relic
vague relic
haughty canopy
@wild pollen I am amazingly excited for north-south orientation
solar verge
NWSO
lel
get a drink, stranger
No
This is not Kursk
This is not Pokorovhska
@wild pollen at this point this might not be Dubno
there's only logi, builder, infantry, scout, partisan and armor.
10 man sounds about right stranger
but it's time effective
🤔
logi in foxhole be like, You're Tearing Me apart, Markfoot!!!
500 yield per scrap node, 200 rmats per node, 250 emats per node.
exactly
not enough bmats and rmats
No
@vague relic NO!!!!
Before the nerf, u can be 1 guy to supply a whole front
haughty canopy
@hidden snow I like doing it..
solar verge
or 2
We don't exactly need a scrapper, but it makes it faster
how are we supposed to make sure supplying >3 maps with a third of the logi as we used to have and half the yield
but repair is just pure cancer
frak off
it is bad
that is a fucking idle game
frak off
You didn't sound sarcastic
lel
XDDDD
NWSO
It is bullshit
You always have to, sir
No
What?!? No
scrapping is no longer enjoyable
No.....
you don't have the bloody scrappers
fathom garden
@wild pollen join me
solar verge
or you know, more bmats per node
and just more materials per node scrapped in generals
Buildable Refinery
solar verge
but idk, I think buildable refineries like in WW is better
dense orbit
@hidden snow Lets talk about the AT/ NvS
solar verge
Making supplies by the thousands
dense orbit
and you as well Kom
solar verge
No....
Much more relaxing in making them supplies
Actually as a logi player, the main problem itself isn't resource gathering, it's not enough yield per node
I have to disagree, caspar.
dense orbit
On?
solar verge
regarding the automated supply
It's better if you buff the yield to the old numbers
so you can get a usable amount much more quickly
like 90 rmats per node is unusable
192 emats per node is barely usable
300 bmats is unusable
rip logi having to scrap fuel as many as they can
limber tendon
not if fuel harvesters put out more than enough.
it's all about adjusting the numbers.
solar verge
You need them for the starter, Xol
limber tendon
yes, of course, but you already need that anyways.
solar verge
Well, then logi would need to circle between resource nodes all the time
limber tendon
and the harvesters would need to be built/researched anyways.
isn't that what they already do?
solar verge
No. I don't do that
That seems like too much player interaction from me
especially at that numbers
It needs a buff in numbers, that's all
limber tendon
It would literally turn every resource node into an important point of interest.
solar verge
and buildable refinery
I move
it only takes 1 min per scrap node
atm we need around 5 mins to fill a truck
instead of 2 mins
it's too much limiting the effort
We don't really have a ton of people doing scrapping tbh
because most people are driving
solar verge
that's because the resource doesn't worth the time
the current iteration doesn't respect logi's feeling of accomplishment by making enough supplies
next torrent
"why would I want to scrap for the game?
I should be doing something better with my life"
solar verge
@tawdry pine not really.
There's not enough nodes to supply the front
atm, you just need 2-3 dedicated scrappers to supply 10 logi
we just need a bigger number per batch
ffs
you need them for the techpart!!!!
We need the fucking techpart @limber tendon !
they aren't
because there is only scrappers on day 1
No
NO
limber tendon
every scrapper is logi, not every logi is a scrapper.
solar verge
you just drive around 2 nodes
solar verge
we just need more yield per node ffs
tfw no one listens the logi guy who face the problem of logi
limber tendon
he's part of the logi part of the game.
solar verge
The scrapping base system is needed, but make it faster and worth a logi's time
because it feels more satisfying to get a ton of scraps not instantly, but with minimal effort
not like the current iteration where we only get half
But who can get the fuel?
solar verge
hmmmmm
was?
@limber tendon but then people are just doing that to boost the numbers
astral rock
Did he say adding AC to skirmish? 
solar verge
That's why 7-8 days is ideal
Lattice System?
No
@limber tendon Lattice System? just no
exactly
That is Lattice System
or Planetside2
limber tendon
solar verge
I think it sorta works, especially in helping to mitigate the backcapping
however, it would dependants on how the devs approach it
yeah
it is
hmmmm
it doesn't at all
agree
I changed my mind
but yeah
Yeah, I think this could work
So there is no bullshit like today
Borderwatch
sniped with mortar
I mean, this would sorta helps with George's problem with regional HQ.
Yeah, an encirclement modifier
limber tendon
solar verge
@limber tendon make the lattice to be logical
yes
follow road
an actual logistical road
@limber tendon well, planetside 1
dense orbit
@hidden snow Get in here dude
solar verge
It's better on Planetside 1
dense orbit
We talkin' good shit
solar verge
dense orbit
solar verge
limber tendon
solar verge
dense orbit
solar verge
dense orbit
@solar verge @limber tendon
limber tendon
loftmire <-> Barrons
dense orbit
I dont think so.
astral rock
i dont know what i feel about the empty connection in middle, but i like it
astral rock
i think you made it really well kommissar
solar verge
lol
k
Indonesia
No
there's only 400k active soldiers
with 250M pop
no, there's no conscription, all voluntary service
limber tendon
solar verge
heyo @elder haven
elder haven
hi !
solar verge
we're talking about lattice lines in Foxhole
elder haven
i see
solar verge
To mitigate the bullshit that is UW atm
elder haven
😃
solar verge
So it would actually make sense
Make reload bug as a feature
Yep
It helps both infantry and partisan
makes a clear objective in mind
trypophobia
why, caspar
dense orbit
Why what?
solar verge
why you clicked that
NO
heck no
lol no
already denied
before she even applied
astral rock
solar verge
we gave her denied tag
lel
no
@dense orbit No, Lochan Overlook doesn't make sense
no logi road
btw
too sleepy
cya
solar turret
Are theses maps for trains?
Reeee
Jk
Like planetside 2 and 1
Yes that seems good
Handsome hideaway
Dead meme
Move the colonials port has to hh
Trains when?
Awwww
Spgs when
Flame throwers when 🔥
Molotov’s when 😂
Railroad arty 🤔
They said they are rotating to north south
How about no lines
limber tendon
sweet timber
i keep pressing the deaf butt0n but its not workin
solar verge
have you seen the lattice line suggestion, me, xolbadur and caspar been making on this chat?
solar verge
Ye
What do you think about it?
So basically we can't capture a town that's not connected to a line
but we can still down it
and we can still go to the next map
sweet timber
how does one conenct to a line ?
like unallow the shit nthat 10cce pull yesterday ?
solar verge
it was STR and 404th
but yes
to unallow that shit
because that just doesn't make sense
it doesn't give a sense of a push
and more like, We're salty because we're losing, so we're gonna annoy you guys in your own portbase map
it's just.... WTF
any criticism and suggestions you can give to me regarding this idea?
sweet timber
so the concept is , you need the previpous town on the road to capture the next one ?
solar verge
any of the previous town
you just need a connection
made using logistical road
so it makes sense
sweet timber
well what if they try to capture a town in the rear end of the middle map
according to that suggestion
it cant be possible
solar verge
Then you can't capture it, but you can kill the TH.
wide sable
We talking something about deeplaw?
solar verge
So no more of that waiting 16h for Deeplaw after reset
sweet timber
@wide sable scrool up
wide sable
make portbases destructible again
solar verge
@wide sable We're talking about adding lattice line like in Planetside to Foxhole to not allow backcamping
wide sable
ehh
solar verge
Because it doesn't make sense
wide sable
lattice line might work, but the partisan people will be angry for sure
solar verge
like, how did 5 guys turn into 60+ after capturing a town
wide sable
if it was a single map this wouldn't happen
solar verge
@wide sable nonono, hear me out, you can still do partisan duty, killing FOBs, raiding, killing logi, raiding supply depot and stuff, heck, even killing TH. What it doesn't allow is, backcapping
and that's it
So a map progression actually makes sense
instead of people from Westgate suddenly have a town in UW and ignoring UH
copper bobcat
Putting in my two cents here
I think you should be able to destroy and cap shit behind lines
limber tendon
is this the channel for mute people?
copper bobcat
supplying it would be a different story
That way you could still cut off logi
but you couldn't pull some ridiculous home base bs
solar verge
I disagree with backcapping because on the current iteration, regional HQ is still a free spawn
copper bobcat
Yeah, not a fan of that
wide sable
least make port map HQs have limited spawn and retain garrison for enemy when mid maps are under control at least
copper bobcat
If you're backcapping, Regional shouldn't provide freespawn unless it's connected via logi lines
solar verge
@limber tendon apparently it is
wide sable
Mute only chat. Pinnacle of FOD
limber tendon
ha, sucks to be you guys, beca
love what I did there?
xD
and Ben, I'd love to agree on that
but sadly I know why the devs don't remove free spawns at HQs (yet)
it's because your set spawn gets deleted after you switch maps
copper bobcat
ah, that makes some degree of sense
I dunno, still feels abusive to me
maybe set it to a side of the map?
facing where you came from last
limber tendon
if it wouldn't be deleted, you could spawn at a border town one map back.
solar verge
🤷
wide sable
I don't see a problem with that Idea
limber tendon
if it wasn't a problem to put that in the game...
it would be there already.
but hell, I'll put it in suggestions.
solar verge
@copper bobcat why are you on deafen mode as well?
wide sable
cue old timer war-stories
solar verge
We had Trainer role back in WC1 @limber tendon
wide sable
want to talk about the stone walls around THs?
about how they are 20m early game
WHY???
why are we still here... just to suffer...
solar verge
get @fluid steppe for that
wide sable
I was thinking about a sentry post defence that shoots over the walls
c'mon devs, I need a new structure
sweet timber
make watchtower an defense like foxhole
copper bobcat
wup, accidental
wide sable
gib me
wide sable
hm
solar verge
but FMG doesn't have huge arc of fire
dark adder
.
wide sable
^
wide sable
and there are confirmed static FMG turrets
solar verge
180 then
wide sable
270
solar verge
I don't want to bring a frickin HMG
copper bobcat
super tho
wide sable
I still don't understand why HMG needs BP when mortar doesn't
solar verge
died too much during trench war event because RNG is on the colonial
wide sable
damn right
solar verge
damn right
wide sable
BP are trash
solar verge
vehicle BP i get
wide sable
I need my spammable shit
solar verge
that's why the WW Refinery works better tbh
wide sable
least they got rid of 100 sulfur per 6hr
solar verge
buildable refinery with limits on them
solar verge
@wide sable you played the Weekly Wars?
sweet timber
weakly war is gay
solar verge
Oh yeah wargames
sweet timber
collies vs 82dk
sweet timber
or "only us get to fight the collies"
copper bobcat
This is kinda convoluted
but since we have vehicle spam
wouldn't sulfur spam be aight?
HE grenades lets go
It's a shitty solution to a shitty problem, but hey
solar verge
HE is a huge bmats sink atm
wide sable
HE nades would be top kek
copper bobcat
brrrrrrt
solar verge
HE is too expensive with the emats
wide sable
(or frags)
copper bobcat
till the green ash hits
solar verge
and frags
copper bobcat
apparently we lost quite a few halftracks this morning due to rookie ineptitude
solar verge
FML
copper bobcat
no locks, drivers getting outta vehicles
wide sable
I don't understand why frags got nerfed so damn hard
solar verge
ffffffuuuuuuu
burnt ocean
👋
burnt ocean
wide sable
and quite a lot of RPGs
burnt ocean
I seen this guy with like 7 rockets and 30 rifle clips
solar verge
@wide sable mortar jeep is a thing
burnt ocean
Show us @wide sable
copper bobcat
holy shit
burnt ocean
😂 😂 😂
wide sable
dead HTs and RPG people when pushing deadlands
copper bobcat
rifle, clip and bayonet? lol
copper bobcat
wait 4 clips?
solar verge
Or frags if logi gave you some
copper bobcat
I just go with two
solar verge
Yep 4 clips is max on long infantry engagement
copper bobcat
If I dun kill at least three people with that amount of ammo and loot them, something wrong wit me
solar verge
2 is for direct frontline
wide sable
carry a SMG with 3 clips and a bandage like the PPS wielding commie warrior
copper bobcat
Oh, I carry at least 5 for SMGs
wide sable
because I can't aim for shit
copper bobcat
Press Z
solar verge
@limber tendon it's 36 degree celcius outside lol
copper bobcat
Prone SMG or Startle SMG
wide sable
bush SMG is my fav
burnt ocean
burnt ocean
@wide sable the true edge
solar verge
Bush shotgun 10/10
burnt ocean
Nuuuuuu
wide sable
RS2 intensifies
copper bobcat
bonus if you can kite like a boss
burnt ocean
🇰
solar verge
When you thwarted 1rediv and STR push with a single shotgun and no spare clip
1 ht, 4 trucks
burnt ocean
Nerf
copper bobcat
or nothing!
burnt ocean
Shit 5 minutes till bed time
burnt ocean
Yes i have skool you know
wide sable
you sleep at 9:30 you pleb?
solar verge
I'm too kool for skool.
burnt ocean
Yes pleb
copper bobcat
It's a thing called timezones
wide sable
I live in the same state as him
solar verge
It's 11.26 am for me
copper bobcat
ahhhh
burnt ocean
I am westcoast fuck timezones
copper bobcat
same region as me then
wide sable
and icanari, fyre, and many more...
wide sable
maaaaaaaybe
burnt ocean
Fyre to????
wide sable
mmhmm
burnt ocean
Tell me shit auto
wide sable
@limber tendon true
burnt ocean
@wide sable soon mark will be westcoast
copper bobcat
Slower reload, and make it heavier I think
solar verge
@wide sable for some reason icanari's name reminds me of a japanese steak chain restaurant
wide sable
kek
burnt ocean
solar verge
@copper bobcat well, we reload only 3 shells in animation
copper bobcat
still
burnt ocean
I use an ar-15 i dont need a shotgun
copper bobcat
its way too fast
wide sable
ye
copper bobcat
its like he's got all the shells in his hands
and it magically pops outta his sleeve
burnt ocean
Yes
limber tendon
wide sable
inb4 devs make buff the shotgun again, making it the auto-5
haughty canopy
y tag
burnt ocean
@haughty canopy bcuz you a washingtonian to
haughty canopy
okay?
solar verge
Kay
wide sable
m'kay
burnt ocean
No u
solar verge
@wide sable it will be spammed for a WC
wide sable
1 shot disable truck from a bush
solar verge
And then forgotten
wide sable
like the sticky
copper bobcat
Shoulda ammended it to AI Rifle
Anti-Infantry
one shot kill or riot
none of that downed BS
solar verge
@copper bobcat AM rifle
copper bobcat
oh god
solar verge
Anti-Materiel Rifle
wide sable
the foxhole AWP
wide sable
just imagine shooting the thing between walls in UH against unsuspecting ACs
copper bobcat
something of that power = barrett
burnt ocean
M1 abrams when
solar verge
@limber tendon because they realized non-emats weapon are needed for players to do anything at all
burnt ocean
Better yet a10 warthog when
copper bobcat
CAS when
burnt ocean
I need a brrrrrt
burnt ocean
BRRRRRRRT
solar verge
720 bmats and 160 emats
solar verge
For 80 HE
limber tendon
just to suffer
wide sable
that gives me bald spots if I was the one to farm the Emats
copper bobcat
HE nade launcher when
burnt ocean
Nades new he
solar verge
Emat takes too long to refine and then logi makes the emats to make other assets
burnt ocean
New faction
solar verge
Like mortars
Or FA or Howi
And tank shells
Well, DK is more on the FA side of things
wide sable
I'm pretty dissapointed when HMG is used less than the backcapping, garrison resetting machine called the mortar
wide sable
the kits
wide sable
was it 6 per tank? I think that was for the kits that took 6 tech per kit that provided 3 tanks
wide sable
oh god, that gives me storm rifle teching QM flashbacks
solar verge
@wide sable oh god
wide sable
jesusno
solar verge
Don't fucking remind me of SR QM
solar verge
@limber tendon yep
burnt ocean
Rifle qm
solar verge
There was at best 10-15 tanks
copper bobcat
gg
wide sable
I just hope the 1shotting meme machine doesn't need BPs to make
solar verge
Like HT, APC and Tanks
limber tendon
sweet timber
mama pls no
solar verge
Ahhh
wide sable
I do agree with the tech costs
solar verge
But the need for TP would be a balancing for the game tbh
Exactly
So people need a player choice between making vehicles or advancing tech
wide sable
even time isn't keeping people from spam
wide sable
only tech parts would do, since this playerbase is uncontrollable when it comes to grinding
wide sable
I'm not sure how to ballance otherwise when people play your game for 10 hours just making tank shells
or 5 hours in the same town building pillboxes, like me
solar verge
@wide sable You obviously never seen my FA shell depot
solar verge
4 crates full of FA shells
wide sable
jesus
solar verge
So 4x18x20
"Quantity over Quality is a Quality in and of itself. "
Logi Quality tho
We communicate tho. In our own channels
Kinda hard to keep up with comms when the squad chat and discord chat is full of chatter
Especially when orders from HC is being ridiculous
Like orders like, "We need Everything!"
And logi just complains at HC for the next 15 mins
Although everything means 100ss, 8 crates of rifle, 400 rifle ammo,
For a starter
@limber tendon you can do the coding in 2-3 hrs and boom
It's not that hard
limber tendon