#technical-chat | foxholegame | Page 33

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:23 PM

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i mean i can try modem after brother gets off

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:23 PM

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meh.

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yea i guess

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really need a vpn test hmm

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Brother doesent want me to test modem

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nvm

terse flume Apr 19, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Hey is your IP static

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Or dynamic

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:26 PM

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hah who has static ips

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gonna try tunnel bear myself

terse flume Apr 19, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Right now I'm throwing everything I know

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:27 PM

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see if it gets AV triggered

terse flume Apr 19, 2019, 11:27 PM

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😄

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Tunnelbear is not a virus

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:27 PM

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but why is his being flagged as one?

terse flume Apr 19, 2019, 11:27 PM

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If he downloaded it from a shady website

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:27 PM

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maybe he has an actual virus

terse flume Apr 19, 2019, 11:28 PM

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I can't guarantee that

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:28 PM

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mine ran without a problem

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:28 PM

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modem connection worked

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:28 PM

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what does that mean? directly connected to the modem?

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:28 PM

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ya

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:28 PM

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oh ok, cool

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so its the router

terse flume Apr 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Phew

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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ya i guess so

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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actually, when you plugged in the modem, did you have to choose what network type? home/office/public?

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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no

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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hm ok

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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it just let me connect

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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so not software firewall then

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Would be worth making sure firewall is still disabled though

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Win10 or Win7

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:30 PM

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so sir whats the router setting blocking him?

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:30 PM

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one sec will i switch to router again

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:30 PM

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i cant even i magine...

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a custom route to a black hole? lol

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Router firewall possibly

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Or just bad settings

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:32 PM

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wouldnt it screw everything up?!

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Not necessarily

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Could effect only things with lower tolerances

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I'd be curious to see the ping on modem

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If better

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:32 PM

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hmm yea

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:36 PM

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well whole fam was kinda mad so i needed to switch back

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didnt think to check

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:36 PM

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It's cool

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I shoulda mentioned it

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:36 PM

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now to see if it should let me play after back on router

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:37 PM

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But we know we're looking towards the router

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Ye

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:37 PM

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if we assume the latency is low, that means the router is shot?

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dropping packets like mad?

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Or bad setting.

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could even be PC side

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But,

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:37 PM

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i still cant imagine the setting on a SOHO router

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:37 PM

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it canceled my faction allegiance somehow

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and im back to no home regions found

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moment i went back to router

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:37 PM

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what would possibly ruin his traffic to <redacted>

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:38 PM

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Because we see multiple devices, we're seeing router issues/network wide issues

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So

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:38 PM

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i have no clue what could make my router a litteral internet black hole

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its on default settings i believe

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:39 PM

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maybe its doing something weird with high port numbers, like 50000-55000 or something

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:39 PM

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• That setting you changed to 500 and then to 5000, try setting that to 200. Just for the sake of giving it less of a chance

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Sounds off but it's one thing,

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but that's not the main next thing,

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It would be worth making sure there's no port forwarding settings,

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:39 PM

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steam allows a minimum of 250

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Yeh then 250

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Oh, also,

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:40 PM

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yes if you have access to your router, can you tell us what rules are in the port forwards or NAT or firewall?

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:40 PM

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open up command prompt and run

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ipconfig

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:40 PM

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no home regions found

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:40 PM

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Find your gateway, then run ping <gateway IP>

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:40 PM

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admin command prompt or regular?

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:40 PM

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either

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Either going to be 192.168.0.1 or 10.0.0.1 most likely

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:41 PM

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never seen a home router use 10.x.x.x

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:41 PM

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wrong, its 192.169.1.1

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:41 PM

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ahhh the ol' 1.1

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:41 PM

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169??

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Comcast modems made a move to 10. for example, as does a lot of newer routers

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:41 PM

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those little pocket router devices are usually like 192.168.8.254

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they pick some weird subnet youre probably not using

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and they choose the last ip in the subnet, so wonky

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:42 PM

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168

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mistype

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:42 PM

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Some also default to some odd settings, or if someone just fat-fingered the setting

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ah

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:42 PM

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it is 1.1 though

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:42 PM

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1.1 is common as well

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:42 PM

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oh thats exciting to see people move to 10.x.x.x, i started doing that myself about 5 years ago

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:42 PM

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More common than it used to be

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:42 PM

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so what do i do to fix 1.1?

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:43 PM

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nothing, 1.1 is fine

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ping it

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ping -t 192.168.1.1

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he wants to see if you can talk to it, and if traffic is dropped

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you should be seeing a reply for every message, hopefully under 4ms response time

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:44 PM

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this

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:44 PM

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it wont let me ping

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says syntax problem

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:44 PM

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ping 192.168.1.1 -t

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:44 PM

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oh maybe the -t is linux?

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:44 PM

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at the end

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:44 PM

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without -t it will only try 4 times i think in windows by default

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:44 PM

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its repeating

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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time=?

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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2ms

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2ms

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2ms

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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good

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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2ms

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1ms

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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hah

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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2ms

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2ms

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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okay

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Ctrl+C

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it'll stop it

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You'll get a packet loss result

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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so this is where i would pay $20 to have the dns

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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it pinged it roughly 50 times XD

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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nooba did share with us a test dns for an amazon bucket

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but i cant imagine that not working

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:46 PM

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If we're seeing globally high ping, it's likely not that

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:46 PM

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http://s3.amazonaws.com/clapfoot-test-bucket/test.json

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:46 PM

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You could ping 8.8.8.8 -t though

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:46 PM

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oh its gone

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:46 PM

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pinging against Google DNS to see how that fairs

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:46 PM

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looks like it got removed

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we have nothing to test with now lol

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only netstat!!!

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:46 PM

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pinging the 8.8 thing gives 42ms

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Okay

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So

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hm

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Run fast.com again

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And get the lower ping

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the unloaded

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:47 PM

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also, i want to know what existing router rules are in place

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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brother is getting angry about these ping tests

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gatta wait till he's backing

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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what??

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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picardlol family

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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ping should not cause him problems

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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its lagging his game

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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at all

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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That means it's high ping across the network

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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IP conflict

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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At least that confirms on the right track

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Nah doubt IP conflict

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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my bet is IP conflict!

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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shit wouldn't work at all

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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it would ruin a NAT table

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youd be surprised they work tho

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just ... really slowly

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:49 PM

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home router wouldn't hand out a gateway IP. Unless he set it as static...

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:49 PM

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STP is activated somewhere lol

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:49 PM

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You could see that in the router's config

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:49 PM

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yes, exactly

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someone not using DHCP in the house

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maybe his brother with all the network problems

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:49 PM

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DHCP?

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:49 PM

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It's a pretty unlikely prospect though

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:49 PM

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what if we had him set his IP to static

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Could do that. Set it to .254 for example to test

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:50 PM

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set it to 192.168.1.250 and the subnet to 255.255.255.0 and the gateway to 192.168.1.1 and the dns to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

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on your local computer, not the router!

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:50 PM

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i have no clue on how to do that

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Russ, basically IPs are typically handed out by the router, "you get this, and you get that". But, you can "ask" for a specific IP, a static IP.

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:50 PM

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you set the DNS didnt you? its in the same place

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Did I ask, win7 or win10

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:51 PM

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win10

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:51 PM

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another working theory - what if he set the DNS for a different network connection

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and his DNS is wrong ont he router, but when he plugs into modem directly he gets a different DNS server and its correct?

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its a bad theory.

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:51 PM

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Try arp -a

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in the cmd

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See if there are any overlaps

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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it gave alot of responses

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Look for duplicates

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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changing IP address would probably be an easier way to test

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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8 dynamic

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7 static

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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reading an arp table might be above novice level

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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are u guys busy?

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Are the statics starting with say, 244

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or a high number

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Sup boss?

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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1 has 255 at the end

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2 actually

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:53 PM

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255 is fine, they all use that one

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Do you see only 1 with 192.168.1.1

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:53 PM

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its considered broadcast

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:53 PM

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ya its dynamic

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Good

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No IP conflict then

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:53 PM

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my voice chat isnt working at all. everyone ingame sounds choppy and says that i sound choppy as well.

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:53 PM

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...

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perhaps not

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changing the IP might circumvent some forwarding rule tho

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@delicate oriole voicemeeter software is your solution

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Why voicemeeter

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

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dunno

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

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wut

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

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i know.

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but im sure of it

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100% sure

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

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doubt

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Voicemeeter is just a mixer

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

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redirecting audio through compatible sound driver fixes it

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

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ive used that but it makes my game run at 20 fps

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

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did he go through the fix list 😃

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:54 PM

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incompatibility with some headsets and the last patch

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many people have been complaining about it sir

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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@delicate oriole your in game sounds are choppy as well?

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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no

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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it only affects voice

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Just voice?

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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yah

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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we have dealt with this problem a lot

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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I'd try restarting PC completely first and see if that corrects it.

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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no

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Yes

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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im telling you

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i am 100% certain on this one

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we've dealt with like 5 people with this problem in the last week

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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i used to have that problem, fixed it myself tho 😄

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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ill find the relevant reddit post

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Voicemeeter is like trying to fix a lack of protein with a banana

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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your not wrong

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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lol

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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i'd say trying to give radiation poisoning with a banana though

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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been telling icanari that exact thing for months

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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banana's contain a few micro serverts of radiation

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Voicemeeter would only serve to alter the bitrate. But that still points to a networking issue

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:56 PM

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banana kind of sucks at any nutrition except sugar and maybe vitamin c

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

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but the chances of it are REDICULOUSLY low

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

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bit rate? its also a full driver stack

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so ... theres that significant part too

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

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ummmmm is this a nutrion chat? XD

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

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It's like going from New York to Washington DC with a stopover in Germany.

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

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yes but it fixes it

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i guarantee

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

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at the current rate, we'll ask for a side related branch on discord by the end of the evening

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

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and its the only way we know how to fix it

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Just do the restart lmao

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it's not Derp

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been doing this stuff a lot longer lmao

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

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youre very wrong this time sir

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$20 bet on it

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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i have done that multiple times

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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It could fix it, but so could resetting drivers through a PC restart

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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have you tried plugging directly into a modem, apparently its black magic for foxhole

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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You're jumping towards replacing limbs before checking the troubleshooting process

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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yep

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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it doesnt COULD fix it

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it absolutely fixes it, every time

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ive done the troubleshooting

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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picardfacepalm

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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please kiss my ass on this one

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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You aggravate me

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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i put a LOT of work into that issue

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voicemeeter is the only solution

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ive asked people to file bug reports

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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It's not though.

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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hold on, let me file the reddit

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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@delicate oriole have you played the game before?

distant harness Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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almost all problems have multiple solutions, they're just less obvious

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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its definitely introduced from last patch

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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yep

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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And did audio sound fine?

delicate oriole Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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yeah

blissful sequoia Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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please, if you want to waste your time

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or you can skip to the answer

proud schooner Apr 19, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Intermittent issue. Voicemeeter would not be the answer.

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Case closed.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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but it IS

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you will see

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you will owe me $20

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Frankly Derp, it's not.

delicate oriole Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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i have used it bro

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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i promise it is

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try and see

delicate oriole Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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but it gives me 20fps

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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I'm gonna have to ask you to stop with the poor advice.

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Derp, let the man try

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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well im trying to save his time

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poor advice? my god

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youre screwing with me, right?

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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You could get rid of you house faster by burning it down too.

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:00 AM

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we got time to waste talking about nutrition, im sure we got time to waste on this

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same as time to waste on arguing

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:01 AM

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im 100% certain on the fix and youre telling me im giving poor advice?

delicate oriole Apr 20, 2019, 12:01 AM

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yeh i got time

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:02 AM

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@delicate oriole Have you already tried restarting PC yet?

delicate oriole Apr 20, 2019, 12:02 AM

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yep

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:02 AM

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doh i messed with my clock to test something now i cant load the reddit post about it

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:02 AM

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wut

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:02 AM

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https errors

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wanted to see if foxhole would find servers if clock was off - it does

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:02 AM

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@delicate oriole try restarting modem/router, then the PC

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Dunno why it wouldn't find servers if clock was off

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:03 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/foxholegame/comments/bc8u17/my_voip_is_laggy_and_unusable_for_no_reason/

r/foxholegame - My VOIP is laggy and unusable for no reason

8 votes and 5 comments so far on Reddit

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we've dealt with this 5 times

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Sure. But it's not always the fix.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:03 AM

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but it is this time

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:04 AM

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We've seen hundreds of the exact same issue be networking related.

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:04 AM

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you can kill a fly with a sledgehammer, doesent mean its the best option

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:04 AM

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yea i know

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thats why it was hard to figure out

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Again, it's why there's a process.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:04 AM

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we tested every network thing possible

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come ot find out its more related to sound drivers or something

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heres how i can guarantee its NOT a network problem

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Sure, it can be. But eliminating the networking issue is a good step as well.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:04 AM

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when you use voicemeeter, it will go away entirely

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:05 AM

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voicemeter would cause lag, as he said

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:05 AM

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And then he's at 20fps because you don't understand the effects of a sound mixer picardlol

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:05 AM

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so lets try a diffrent approach

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:05 AM

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because i dont understand hte sound effects of a mixer

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because sir has all the exp his IQ so high

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:05 AM

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picardlol Okay.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:05 AM

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hey man, its icanari's idea

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and hes right, it barely uses any CPU

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:05 AM

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who the heck is acanari's?

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icanari's

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Talking about @sly mortar

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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i gave him the same grief about software audio mixers and delay and cpu use

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Can you explain why a mixer would be the way to go then?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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but its not a big deal

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uhm i dont really care about the mixing part

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its a compatible sound driver with foxhole

winter quarry Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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I am currently stuck in a jeep flying in midair

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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That's not how that works.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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this is a bug introduced in last patch, something funky about what they did

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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turn it a few time @winter quarry

winter quarry Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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I can't

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:06 AM

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maybe a sample rate issue, who knows, but voicemeeter has no issues

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:07 AM

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build a small object to reach it, then get in and turn it

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:07 AM

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What you should be suggesting, is a virtual audio cable

winter quarry Apr 20, 2019, 12:07 AM

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I am stuck inside the vehicle

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The vehicle is in the air

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:07 AM

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at least 5 other people came in here and ran through every network torture troubleshooting thing

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:07 AM

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OR, testing with different speakers/audio devices

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:07 AM

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ask someone to hit it with the top of another vehicle? or is it too high

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:07 AM

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yep, if you have em

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using a different audio device might work, if you dont, voicemeeter is your answer

winter quarry Apr 20, 2019, 12:07 AM

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It's really just at a really steep incline but I can't do anything about it

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:08 AM

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steep incline, ask a builder vehicle for help

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the big arm can slap it

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:08 AM

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if its a truck, chef, just make a new one, its a common bug

winter quarry Apr 20, 2019, 12:08 AM

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I am stuck inside the truck though

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:08 AM

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5 solved with virtual drivers compared to hundreds solved with networking troubleshooting or other solutions. Surely must be voicemeeter. picardfacepalm

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:08 AM

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if its more valuable then @coarse trail may be able to fix it for you

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@proud schooner you sure are arrogant

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:08 AM

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@winter quarry Do others see it in the air?

winter quarry Apr 20, 2019, 12:08 AM

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I don't know

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There's no one else around

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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i grant you, it looked like a network problem at first

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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As in if you ask someone, is it visually in the air for them as well

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Ah

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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thats what we tried first

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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I'd message @coarse trail Chef and see if a mod is able to come take a look

delicate oriole Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Aite going in game right now

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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but i dont deserve to be insulted because i/we found the answer and its not what youd like it to be

winter quarry Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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It's in Quadrant G-16 of Westgate

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Derp, I'm not insulting. I'm saying there's a reason for a troubleshooting process.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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youve insulted me a few times already saying im basically to dumb to know whats happening

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or i dont know how stuff works

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Yeah message the details to @coarse trail Chef, it's how to contact the mods

winter quarry Apr 20, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Ok

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:10 AM

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i cannot help that the solution was unexpected

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Derp, because there's an issue with making suggestions without understanding the underlying reason why something is going wrong. It's poor support.

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I've fired people over that.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:10 AM

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its your assumption i dont understand how it works

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but i understand how it works better than you

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Troubleshooting is a process for a reason.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:11 AM

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and you just assume i havent troubleshot any of it

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:11 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Honestly, we can have that chat another time.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:11 AM

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we dont need a chat

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Can we get back to trying to solve my issue, if they're all good to go?

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:11 AM

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But in essence, it's poor form to offer solutions willy-nilly. "Install XYZ" should never be the first step.

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:12 AM

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whats your solution?

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:12 AM

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The solution is to troubleshoot all the way each and every time.

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@distant harness So, when it comes to your issue,

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:12 AM

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i posted a message i asked icanari to pin

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oh nevermind we never did the voicemeeter one

delicate oriole Apr 20, 2019, 12:12 AM

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It didn't work

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:12 AM

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i wish i could have just posted you some background context that we've been over it many times already

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:12 AM

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What headset do you use?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:13 AM

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basically the answer is your audio driver is incompatible with this version of foxhole shrug

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:13 AM

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whats his

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nvm derp asked

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:13 AM

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@distant harness So,

delicate oriole Apr 20, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Logitech G230

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:13 AM

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so people have trouble setting up voicemeeter, which is the biggest downside frankly

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every time i tell someone the answer is voicemeeter i have to help them set it up, its a big pain

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worse than any burned CPU cycles

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:14 AM

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could you not make a video on how to set it up

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and send it to those who need it

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:14 AM

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its slightly different for everyone is the problem - they have different named devices

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or they have realtek stuff with like 3 output devices named similarly and people pick the wrong one

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:14 AM

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well begin making guides for specific devices, eventually you'll have what you need for the required devices

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:15 AM

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russames, try the IP address change to 192.168.1.250

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thats the only idea i have for you

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:15 AM

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whats the command for that?

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:15 AM

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@delicate oriole Try the steps here https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/551236268004999168/551238198995451924

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:15 AM

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you can change it where you changed the DNS settings, do you know where that is?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:15 AM

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nop

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( i have short term memory loss so anything i recently did i wont know, sorry)

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:16 AM

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ok check the pinned message for the DNS guide

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you can manually enter an IP address in that same location, ip address: 192.168.1.250, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.1.1, dns 8.8.8,8

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1/255 chance of not causing problems for anyone else

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wait, 254/255 chance

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@delicate oriole did you see the reddit post i linked?

delicate oriole Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 AM

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@proud schooner after I do all that I just go in game?

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@blissful sequoia yeah

proud schooner Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 AM

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@delicate oriole Yep and give it a shot

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:19 AM

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i think im all good to change now?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 AM

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yea you can hit ok, if it fails, just switch back to "obtain automatically"

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 AM

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guessing i need to press "use the following ip adress"

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:20 AM

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yep youll have to type them in

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:21 AM

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it didnt say anything

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:21 AM

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thats fine

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:22 AM

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should i just try it now?

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no home regions found still

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:23 AM

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hmm

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as far as we know your router is just dumping traffic in one direction for foxhole

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i think we would have to have some ideas what rules are being used inside the router

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:24 AM

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how can i check the rules?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:24 AM

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i dont know if you have access to look as see if there are any static routes or port forwards

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there will be a web interface at http://192.168.1.1/

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password might be written on router, might have been changed by family, not sure what your situation is

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sometimes its just the default password still, or admin:admin

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differnet brands have different default passwords, sometimes..

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for instance, your brother or someone might have set up a rule to forward all traffic in 50000-xxxxx ports to a specific computer

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and the outgoing foxhole ports I think are in that range

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:27 AM

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im checkin one sec

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:27 AM

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so if something like that happened, most internet traffic would be fine but some games would fail

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:27 AM

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basic or advanced

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:27 AM

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i am not sure. what brand router? I can check the manua

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manual*

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brand + model

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:28 AM

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lemme check

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its a netgear

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i know that much

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:28 AM

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oh, also you can set your IP address back to automatically obtain, DNS also if you want

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does the login page say what model it is?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:29 AM

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netgear 8000?

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im guessing

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:30 AM

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specifics are important

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:30 AM

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domain is netgear 8000

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would that not be the type?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:31 AM

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not sure, only thing i see close to that is a netgear ex8000 range extender

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as soon as you login it should be written on that page somewhere - if not it will be written on the router itself

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:31 AM

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hardware version netgear 8000

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netgear nighthawk

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:32 AM

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is it this? https://www.netgear.com/support/product/r8000.aspx

NETGEAR

R8000 — Nighthawk X6 AC3200 Tri Band WiFi Gigabit Router

Find setup help, user guides, product information, firmware, and troubleshooting for your Nighthawk X6 R8000 on our official NETGEAR Support site today.

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:32 AM

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yep

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:32 AM

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gotta admit that looks cool

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:32 AM

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'twas 300$

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:33 AM

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advanced -> advanced setup -> port forwarding/port triggering

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:34 AM

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ya

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and?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:34 AM

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anything in there?

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see anything covering the 50000 port range?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:34 AM

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no

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none actually

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:35 AM

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ok advanced -> setup -> wan setup , is there anything under the default DMZ?

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hopefully its blank/empty

delicate oriole Apr 20, 2019, 12:35 AM

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@proud schooner it didn't work

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:36 AM

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dmz is not blank

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:36 AM

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what is it?

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also

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nat filtering

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should be open

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not secure probably...

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:36 AM

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nat filtering is closed

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:36 AM

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actually... i wonder what that means

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:36 AM

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should i open it?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:36 AM

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whats in the DMZ, first?

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sounds like your brother might be demilitarizing his network access lol

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:37 AM

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192 168 1 0

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:37 AM

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oh huh? ends in .0??

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ok i guess thats meaningless then

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:37 AM

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i find it more odd its 168

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not a typo this time

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:37 AM

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so i would try setting the NAT to open, myself

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dont mess with the DMZ

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:38 AM

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its open now

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:38 AM

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im trying to imagine what this open nat could mean vs closed...

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oh maybe its not default inbound block

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ok try foxhole with it on open

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:38 AM

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my computer didnt die so im good so far

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no home regions found

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 AM

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hrmm ok you can close it again

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 AM

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(you can really tell there is a reason i asked for help XD)

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 AM

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im wondering about the DMZ setting ...

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:39 AM

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same

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:40 AM

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you could try blanking it out, and if it causes a problem set it back to 192.168.1.0

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:40 AM

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scary, blanking that out

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:40 AM

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dmz generally not supposed to be used

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:40 AM

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if my pc dies you owe me XD

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:40 AM

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its like bypassing the router

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it sends all traffic to 1 PC, or in this case to nowhere because 192.168.1.0 goes nowhere

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:41 AM

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it

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canceled?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:41 AM

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oh ok, no big deal then i guess

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i guess 192.168.1.0 is their blank value

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:42 AM

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its just opened again

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:42 AM

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oh

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:43 AM

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it didnt confirm

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:43 AM

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im seeing other people with similar routers turn their NAT to open instead of secure

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:43 AM

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had to confirm it apparently

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:43 AM

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im not sure i would do that, i know i have firewalls on each PC but i would guess it would leave some ports open

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but considering foxhole is very client-server, i wonder how much it could possibly affect this game

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i dont imagine its doing NAT punching

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advanced -> setup -> wan setup again

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:44 AM

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just wait

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:44 AM

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you can try disabling port scan

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:44 AM

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brother is dying cause im setting up router

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:44 AM

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lol ok

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:44 AM

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let him finish his league game :/

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:45 AM

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does he also connect to the router? or directly to modem?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:46 AM

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router

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:46 AM

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i am starting to wonder if the modem is in a router mode

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so its one router behind another router

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have you ever been able to connect to foxhole, russames?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:47 AM

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yes

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back in april

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it let me in for a war

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but only in the test branch

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:47 AM

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so everything was fine and then something recently changed?

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interesting.

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only in test branch

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...

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:47 AM

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no i've been having trouble connecting to main one scince dec 12, 2018

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:47 AM

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please go to steam

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go to properties for foxhole

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make sure you disable betas

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:48 AM

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i have...

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:48 AM

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suspicious

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god it sounds like its just on the wrong version

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have you set it to live branch instead of dev branch in the top when you go to login?

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oh wait it connects when on the modem directly, i forgot

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:48 AM

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i have it set to default

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Ya

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its something to do with that router

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168 still raises an eyebrow

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 AM

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yea but nobody messed with the router since april, right?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 AM

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nop

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 AM

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192.168 is normal, its a specific code

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:49 AM

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any other ideas?

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i was ganna try the last two when my brother gets off league

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:50 AM

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still lookin at manual

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i am reluctant to do manual port forwards, its very hard to know if the data is good going in

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and considering almost nobody else needs them, you shouldnt either

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i guess i dont understand how you connected before though

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:51 AM

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i dont either

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and only on the test server

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:51 AM

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my only conclusion on that is that its DNS related

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:52 AM

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well his game just ended

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a 44 minute game to end his 7 loss streak

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the dmz isint checked

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so it shouldnt be under effect

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should i check the box and try it?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:53 AM

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no

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no need to use DMZ

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it will probably screw up other peoples internet

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:54 AM

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fair enough

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:54 AM

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turn off the port scanning, maybe put the NAT back to OPEN for a while

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maybe it needs to be open longer to work

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:54 AM

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hrm

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why would it need longer to work?

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it reset the router to take effect

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so it should be under effect

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:54 AM

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i dunno, sometimes routers respond slower than i think they are

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without knowing the specific server address its so hard to debug this

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i dont see anything else in the router jumping out at me as a red flag - and i get the impression nobody has changed any settings on it

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can you tell me, does the router say it has a public IP address, can you tell me the first number from it? the WAN address

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i just want to know if its a 192 number basically

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that will tell me if its 2 routers (modem is in router mode) daisy chained

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 12:58 AM

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it is a 192 isint it?

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(im also doing a bit of experimentation myself)

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 12:59 AM

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looking for the WAN address, not the LAN

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you may not want to share the whole address here, just the first number, because its publicly accessible

sly mortar Apr 20, 2019, 1:00 AM

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yeah.. maybe don't post your public IP into a discord with 60K people...

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:00 AM

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fair enough

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192

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:01 AM

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WAN address, not DMZ

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:01 AM

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doesent say

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:01 AM

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maybe on a status page?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:02 AM

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not stated unfortunatly

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:03 AM

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hrmm damn i want to know that

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:03 AM

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that would help alot

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if i knew it i mighta been able to solve the problem, but I dont 😦

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:05 AM

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hmm well you can run from your command line "tracert 8.8.8.8"

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the first one will go to 192.168.1.1, the next one will be the IP im looking for i think

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just the first number from that second IP

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:05 AM

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2

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:06 AM

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2.x.x.x?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:06 AM

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no?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:06 AM

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oh maybe, its possible i guess

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:06 AM

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2x.xxx.xxx.x

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:06 AM

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20? ok one more test

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https://ifconfig.me/ does that match?

What Is My IP Address? - ifconfig.me

Get my IP Address

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:07 AM

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ya

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:07 AM

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ok so it sounds like a simple router setup, modem is acting like modem only

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:08 AM

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when connected directly to modem it functions

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so it can function off modem

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:08 AM

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have you tried foxhole again since the NAT changes?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:08 AM

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what do ya mean?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:08 AM

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trying to connect again, you changed the NAT and the port scan

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:09 AM

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what do you mean?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:09 AM

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try foxhole again

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since last changes

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:09 AM

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still non functional

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:09 AM

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well now would be a great time for a network expert

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this all looks very normal so far

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i think more tests might require you to plug into the modem, thats going to disrupt everyone, right?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:10 AM

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ya if i do it anymore im ganna have a mutiny

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:10 AM

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is there a quieter time when people wont get mad?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:10 AM

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3am xd

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if that

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:11 AM

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maybe @proud schooner has more ideas of things to test

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im running out of ideas for the moment of what it could be, not IP conflict, not the router's port forwarding rules, not the NAT default accept rules...

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its [probably] not the modem

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:11 AM

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maybe i could force some rules via port fowarding

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maybe that would work

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:11 AM

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yes maybe, they are listed in a pinned message

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and now you have a static ip address, the .250 one

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but port forwarding rules rarely work

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the NAT table should handle that stuff for you automatically

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:12 AM

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well the entire list rarely doesent help

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:12 AM

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well i agree with sir, on his whole philosophy of the method of troubleshooting

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:12 AM

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this seems to be a rare case

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:12 AM

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and i do like to start with the most likely stuff

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we're getting to very unlikely, but the problem usually lives in the likely realm

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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we'll we've kinda crossed those out haven't we?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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so its like we are forgetting some likely problem, more heads will have more ideas

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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probably

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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im willing to bet tunnelbear would connect

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as a VPN

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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maybe we should leave what we know to set, and let someone else help

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well tunnelbear would cost money "freemium product" now that its been used once

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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can only use it once? wow

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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no its got a mb limit of 500

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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i assumed it was first 500mb

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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then asks for purchase

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ya, but i run at 110

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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500mb is quite a bit

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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and you've done a few tests with it

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:14 AM

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hm ok

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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so your out of that

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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well

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im rich and im frustrated

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i wish i could throw money at it haha

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:15 AM

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lol

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i wish that it was later so my family wasent up

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so i could have free access to the modem

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That would make this FAR simpler

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cause we could do a cross check

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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yea we could organize more things to try so when you get a moment with it you can

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a vpn would help us determine if the problem is the router or the modem, ...maybe

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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if it works on the modem, then there will be a diffrence between it and the router

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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the modem could possibly be blocking something going to the router

sly mortar Apr 20, 2019, 1:16 AM

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500mb per month is free with Tunnelbear

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Or it used to be that at least

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:17 AM

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this would be SO easy if i knew the ip address of a single server

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:17 AM

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it still is

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:17 AM

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god im supposed to be doing a big git merge right now

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:17 AM

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big git merge?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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code thing

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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just saying my problem is starting to become "lupus" for diagnosis

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aka what doctors are always told

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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maybe sir is onto something, maybe its dropped packets

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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ITS NEVER LUPUS

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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are you wireless?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:18 AM

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ya

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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laptop or tower?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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laptop

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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does it have a jack for a wired connection?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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ya

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thats where i plugged the modem in

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 AM

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so there is a modem plugged into router 📞 -> 📡 ::: 💻

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3 separate devices?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 AM

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ya

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no

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modem goes into router

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 AM

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router and modem are together?!

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 AM

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then wireless

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:20 AM

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err

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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i might be an idiot, im sorry

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didnt think it through XD

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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there is a separate modem device, like a cable connection comes into it, right?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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ya

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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and then a separate router with wireless connected ot the modem?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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i believe so

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:21 AM

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and when you connected ot the modem you replaced the router with your laptop basically?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:22 AM

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the modem and router are connected by a cord, but im not sure if wirelessly connected

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:22 AM

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unplugged the router and use that jack for the laptop?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:22 AM

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ya

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:22 AM

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have you tried plugging into the router?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:22 AM

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yes, with an ethernet cable

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that didnt work

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:22 AM

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so its totally unrelated to wireless

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:23 AM

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presumably

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:23 AM

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its got to be that damned router

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or the IP address the router is using

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ill explain: your router uses your modem with a IP address you guys were assigned, I think

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they told you to enter a specific one in the router in the WAN setup?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:23 AM

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i said i suspected the router from the start, just sayin

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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or does it get the address automatically?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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they put that in themselves

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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ok

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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i was never consulted

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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so its static

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when you plug your laptop in to the modem, it gets a different IP address because its automatic, unless you manually entered that one into your laptop (i doubt)

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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no it automatically did

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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so that is something that is also different - they have differnet IP addresses and probably different gateways

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:25 AM

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so i need to set the gateways to be the same

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so that the packets can enter?

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(im just guessing im not an it guy)

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:25 AM

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no i dont think so

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im just looking for differences between the working setup and the broken one

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and they have different routes and IP addresses probably

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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like i said earlier, they have to have some diffrence

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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you could set your router to get it's WAN address automatically also

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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how so?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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but if you did that you would want to take note of the current values so you can set it back

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well it can get an IP address automatically, also

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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its already set to automatic ip's

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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oh.

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:26 AM

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the WAN is the problem in my opinion

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i believe thats our problem, but i cant acess it

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:27 AM

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well the wan is working, or you wouldnt have any internet access

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so the router configuration - the WAN is set to automatic address?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:27 AM

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obviously, but there is something within it that is improperly setup

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correct?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:28 AM

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your ISP could have bad routing tables, its possible

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:28 AM

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i would love to check if its automatic

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but once again, I CANT 😦

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:28 AM

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but its only possible if the router was configured for static IP address

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im still not clear if thats true

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:28 AM

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i'd have to have access to tell which i don't

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:/

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:28 AM

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ok you know that ip address that starts with 20? was that typed into the router config?

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do you remember seeing that typed in?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:29 AM

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short term memory loss m8, mind giving me a refresher?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:29 AM

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in the WAN setup, where you changed the NAT security - the router's internet address is set to either automatic or it has a specific address entered - the one that is like 20.x.x.x

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:30 AM

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oh that one

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:30 AM

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it has 20.x.x.x typed in?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:30 AM

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nop

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:30 AM

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its automatic?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:30 AM

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its not even 20

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its diffrent now

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:30 AM

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oh ok lol well its definitely not static then

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:30 AM

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3-9 are having errors though

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and timing out

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:31 AM

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huh?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:31 AM

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when tracing the route using the command you gave me

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it gave me 1-2

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:31 AM

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oh

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:31 AM

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and 10-15

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:31 AM

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yes routes can change

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:31 AM

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3-9 are completly timed out

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:31 AM

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i should say the path data takes can change, the routes usually dont change a lot

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its normal for them to time out, they just dont acknowledge pings at all

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:32 AM

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it was not 20 before though

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:32 AM

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but we still can find out their ip address, thats the value

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:32 AM

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its still the same as before

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:32 AM

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if you want to test packet drops then ping 8.8.8.8 -t is better

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:33 AM

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8.8.8.8 -t nonfunctional

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not recognized as a runnable command

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:33 AM

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<windows key> + r, type "ping 8.8.8.8 -t"

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:34 AM

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um

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thats weird

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it repeated, then crashed

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:35 AM

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crashed?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:35 AM

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crashed.

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(guess we found the problem)

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it still lets me see the pings for a little bit though

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:35 AM

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not sure what crashed means for you here

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:36 AM

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alright im good it stopped crashing

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im not entirely sure either but its good now

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48ms

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:36 AM

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that sounds ok

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:36 AM

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but its increasing per ping?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:36 AM

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a little slow...

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if you really have 100mbps internet, then ... thats slow

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:37 AM

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it has a 44ms to 48ms

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repeating cycle

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110 mbps

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:37 AM

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i get 12

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i cannot imagine why your latency is so high

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:37 AM

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(once again, we found our problem, now we just need to solve it)

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:38 AM

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i wish we found our problem lol

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when you find the problem the solution is easy

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:38 AM

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i mean, thats obv a side effect of the problem

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:38 AM

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is it?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:38 AM

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well every test we've done so far

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has hinted at it

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270 ms loaded

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48ms here

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in ever test we've done we've come across an unnatural latency

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:39 AM

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but not to the router...

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yea so when you get a chance, test the latency when you are plugged directly into the modem

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:40 AM

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see thats why i said earlier to wait till i can do that

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:40 AM

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if its much lower, the router is more likely the fault

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:40 AM

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i think i've found our problem

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:40 AM

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also check if the IP address is the same one as the router when you do it

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:40 AM

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aight

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i should be able to at around 1-3 am

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:40 AM

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and if you could please test plugging into the router (not the modem) and turn off your wireless

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:40 AM

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and unfortunatly i wont recall this event

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:41 AM

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just test the latency with that, and check foxhole again

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:41 AM

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brother is using our ethernet cable at the moment

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i cant

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:41 AM

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ok

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when you can

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would love to know the results of those tests

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:41 AM

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we did a test with ethernet earlier i think

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wasent it 231 ms

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which is lower

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:41 AM

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does your brother have foxhole? is he able to connect on his computer?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:41 AM

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but still insanely high

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no, but i could download it possibly after he's done

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:42 AM

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i bet he has the same trouble, didnt know how inconvenient it would be to try

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:42 AM

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well im trying me best here, but also trying not to inconveniance every person in my family

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:43 AM

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yea but its interesting, if his latency is also bad, maybe you are improving his gaming too

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:43 AM

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he stays around 80 ping on league

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always has

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but awhile back he was at 60

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maybe we can solve this problem while not inconveniancing him afterall 😃

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:44 AM

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hmm maybe those are just normal pings for where you live

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:44 AM

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well i got him from 80 ping

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to 70

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so im doing something right

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:44 AM

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i get about 30 on league

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its probably closeby tho

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maybe sir will check back with some ideas, this seems like his area of expertise

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:45 AM

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networking?

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says he's listening to spotify

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:46 AM

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well he already gave you some things to test anyway, so ... maybe we have to wait for those

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:46 AM

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we just gatta wait for modem

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(cases like these i hear make it people giddy, as it actually challenges them, depends on the person though)

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nice break from the usual audio bugs derp?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:48 AM

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not sure if related, people are recommending this firmware: http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/R8000/R8000-V1.0.3.54_1.1.37.zip from this post about 15 months ago: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Nighthawk-WiFi-Routers/250mS-ping-latency-hardwired-to-R8000-Nighthawk-X6-AC3200-Tri/td-p/1498476 - seems kind of similar

250mS ping latency hardwired to R8000 - Nighthawk™ X6—AC3200 T...

My R8000 is connected to Spectrum Cable in Reno NV. I have 9mS latency and 120Mbps down when connected directly to the modem. But as soon as i connect the R8000, latency is 225-250mS making the connection, both for Ethernet devices connected to one of the four ports via a...

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after you do those tests we will have a better idea if its related

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:49 AM

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i already updated firmware though didnt i?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:49 AM

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this is downgrading ,not upgrading

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theyre suggesting they had trouble after a firmware update

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:49 AM

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huh

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:49 AM

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you can read it

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theyve had 3 new firmwares since that post

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:50 AM

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any that fix the problem?

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if so then no need to downgrade

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:51 AM

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dunno - more tests needed to determine if this is the same problem

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all the newest ones seem like security patches

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lol one of the patch notes for an older version says "Fixes the issue where NAT blocks traffic for certain types of packets" haha i guess its likely theres a router firmware involved in this

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maybe not tho

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Ok I will wait for those tests

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i need to get back to this code merge

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:54 AM

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performance optimization database?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:54 AM

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heh nah

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:54 AM

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1.218,0.0.11 is the version

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it that out of date?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:55 AM

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cant even tell

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"11/7/18 - Firmware update 1.0.4.28 for R8000 now available"

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1.0.4.28 is the newest

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:56 AM

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its not firmware

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its a performance optimization database

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if i had new firmware

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but the old database

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would that not cause problems?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:57 AM

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no idea, dont even know what a performance optimization database is

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have you unplugged the modem for logner than a few minutes lately?

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:58 AM

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no

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 1:58 AM

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when you go to do your tests, unplug them both for 5 minutes

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dont push reset buttons or anything, just unpower them is all

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 1:59 AM

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alright

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 2:08 AM

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@distant harness i have another idea to try, disable the QoS above the database option you were looking at

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god knows maybe there is an entry for the foxhole IP burying traffic from that database

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quality of service stuff can be a nightmare or work badly!

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DynamicQoS - you do not need it, ive always felt QoS was a gimmick

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but if disabling it fixes your problem, try updating the database or just leave it off

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that qos feature is my #1 suspect, in fact! net neutrality forever!

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god i wish i had seen that sooner

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and another thought - ipv6? maybe its an ipv6 thing. all kinds of weird tunneling features on the router that the modem direct connection wouldnt have, explains weird dns resolutions and stuff

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I would disable all ipv6 honestly...

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(you can disable ipv6 on your laptop instead of the router)

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:16 AM

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@blissful sequoia will try these, was waiting till 3am like i said

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:16 AM

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k

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:16 AM

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funny enough, family is still up and on internet, which is annoying

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But you cant win em all

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what even is dynamic QoS?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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you know net neutrality? its that but in your home

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a way to assign priorities to different types of network traffic, and it updates from a list at some central server

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:18 AM

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Ah, its probably what my brother uses to prioritize his league over any download

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:18 AM

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people think it is but its hard to get right

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:19 AM

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(even if it doesent solve the problem, it solves a seperate more personal problem of mine)

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:19 AM

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your internet is so fast im surprised anyone feels it doesnt deliver

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:19 AM

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he says he lags at 80 ping

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and that its not fast enough, makes it hard to dodge skill shots

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Which i find to be how do you say

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utter bull crap

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?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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i kind of agree with him honestly

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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i wouldnt know, cause once again his is prioritized over mine

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meaning i ussually play at 100-120

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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its crazy you have to prioritize or share 100 mbps

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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and im completly used to the small delay at this point

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\0/

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your not wrong

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but he complains alot

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:21 AM

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well when you test the latency of the modem you will know if you can improve it

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:21 AM

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i cant use modem right now

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mother is watching tv

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:22 AM

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He got his problem resolved

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:22 AM

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nop

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we're STILL workin on it

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:22 AM

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Huh

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:22 AM

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in medical terms this would be lupus

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:22 AM

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But you said it was working

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:23 AM

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only on modem

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still doesent work on router

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we've singled it down alot

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:23 AM

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So play on router

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:23 AM

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I cant

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it doesent work on router

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i still get the no home regions found

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:23 AM

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Oops I mean modem

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:23 AM

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i cant

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:23 AM

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ocupado

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:24 AM

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mother is watchin tv

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i still cant use the modem to do tests

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Buy another ethernet cable

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:24 AM

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i cant go to a store at 3 am?

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(atleast not were I live :D)

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:25 AM

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You can use the forest tho

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They deliver in a day

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😄

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:26 AM

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why wait a day when i can wait till 9 and head to a store

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save shippin fee's?

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plus i doubt im getting an ethernet cable

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esspecially tommorow, i think i have yard work to do

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anyway, we've singled the problem down to the router

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:27 AM

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Did you do a factory reset on router

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:27 AM

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No, its been in use all day

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and its probably ganna be in use till the time i die at the current rate

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:27 AM

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It's 3 am

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Do the reset

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:27 AM

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EXACTLY

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:27 AM

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youll have to wake up earlier than people maybe

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:27 AM

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no my mom is watching tv

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at 3 am

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:28 AM

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From modem

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Not router

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:28 AM

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shes watching the tv from a streaming service

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and she doesent know it wouldn't freeze it

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and i cant explain that to her

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so i have to wait

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:29 AM

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it might freeze it

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:29 AM

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maybe, probably not considering its downloaded already

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but she doesent want me to, and i cant argue

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:29 AM

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After she is done watching do the reset

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:29 AM

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i said i would at 9pm to be fair

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:29 AM

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yea i learned young its best not to nag about those kinds of things

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:29 AM

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im still waiting XD

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:29 AM

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people dont like their technology messed with

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:30 AM

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you two ever sleep btw?

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:30 AM

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like a bear

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:30 AM

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But TV is from cable

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:30 AM

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yes...

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like i said

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i cant explain that

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:30 AM

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I guess my country is behind

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:30 AM

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she wont accept an argument, because she is my elder

blissful sequoia Apr 20, 2019, 7:30 AM

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its honestly not worth arguing, youll find a chance

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:31 AM

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oh im aware of that, thats why im not arguing

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thats why im typing here instead of fixing my current problem :/

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not to be rude

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what time is it there pink?

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:32 AM

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1 pm

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:32 AM

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oh

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Haha

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:33 AM

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your WAY ahead of my time then

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22 hours technically

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timezone wise

terse flume Apr 20, 2019, 7:33 AM

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😄

distant harness Apr 20, 2019, 7:33 AM

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mistype

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Hey to be fair i've been up like 20 hours now