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huh...Well that's a huge let down
Also I just realised I'm talking in the wrong chat....Sorry about that
It’s fine don’t think the mods will be too piss about it
TOG somehow looks like a completely different tank with its turret rotated backwards
yeah
“Bouncy Bison zoomies after the first snow fall of the year https://t.co/MNsZERa9Fc”
orange full moons are beautiful
looks literally like M6A1
and M6A1 is big slow shit without armor
at least it have 76mm gun
H12 must be renamed because the H12 is the TANKETTE
click de link
the Tanklet is the T12 no the H12
also the M6 heavy tank was the insperation for the hull and the turret is a charioteer baced and the main gun is a 68mm Antitank gun
hmmm
tankette sucks
its just a shitty version of an AC that cannot turn its turret and has open top
another dev joke
inb4 Tankette gets a 14.5mm FMG with specilised HE/flak ammo that only collies can produce
tankette decent
but it's easy to make for newbies
and it's easy to capture
so it ends up being captured by wardens a fuck ton
Still miffed that we couldnt produce AP mortars this war, even if the only way to use them was to capture a specific vehicle from the opposing faction
The tankette has better armor than the AC though?
Lmao
tankette is called Aceton?
Wot
i declare this chemistry joke terrible
never knew
Volvo time
Trying to decide on new video editing software to buy, any suggestions? I'm looking at filmora 9 right now
filmora 9 is not a bad start
Movie maker gang
is the dead harvest coming back this year?
yup
any clue when? i really liked playing it last year?
well not next war but maybe the war after
ah ok thx
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How many of you bobbed your heads while watching the video?
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@edgy siren

got a buncha leather kit 
Not just belt?
shovel and helmet arriving in a week or so 
yeh it was alright, got a few gifts and ate good food
Nice

Oh?
most stuff I've gotten has been antique from gun shows or other places
this is the first kit I'm assembling that's reproduction stuff
mostly because the actual antique stuff is over a century old now so it's in not so great condition and really expensive
Yeah
actually the oldest thing on that belt is the bayonet and scabbard for it
that's a real one
Yeah
but yeah, nice shiny brass buckle to go with the belt too
Sweeeeet
those remind me of german pouches
they are german pouches!
looks at american uniform in closet
🔫 
haha
Have an M1 helmet too
yeah I've been collecting tons of old US surplus militaria for so long, I wanted to switch it up
belgium?
ye
neat 
I still lack a few pouches and boots
pouches? like first aid, or pistol magazine pouches?
ooh, the stock pouch?
oh, just a belt attached pouch
afaik yes. Can't check atm.
bah, I can't either, my internet is getting sucked dry by a download 
in my case it's a cat on my lap
haha
iirc it's the one in the top left https://yankreenactment.nl/_Media/ammo-pouches.jpeg
ooh ooh one image loaded
ooh okay, yeah the belt mounted ones
there was one that went on the stock too, that's what I was talking about
would need like 3 more
paratroops gud 
im still surprised that nearly 80 year old equipment can survive for so long and still be in good condition
lol mine is all repro
The only original item is the helmet and that's a surplus from the 50s 
oldest two things I have are my vz. 98 and a gewehr bayonet, both are around a century old give or take a few years
at the time I found an M1 for 20 EUR and just flat out bought it not caring whether it was from the 40s or whether it was even an M1C (it isn't)
m1 what?
helmet probably
ye
tfw I dropped it a little and the liner popped out 
an american helmet from the 50's bought in europe for around 23 usd
yes
that's a pretty good deal
I've got a buncha helms, gonna expand the collection again soon once my new one arrives
could be 60s, but the chin strap has a swivel that places it after 1950
I thiiiink this is my oldest one, front leather strap is repro but shell, liner, and chinstrap are original to it afaik
hue
the headband is 100% a replacement one, came with it but it's got a stamp that says 2008 on it
but the rest of the liner looks original
NICE
I'll take a pic of mine when I can
He's gonna post a tank or something
Swedish Mauser with Swedish Mauser bayonet
haha
2 desk mosins
mosins are nice 
catto 
oh cool 
I had an ear infection since Wednesday, and it’s been bad since Thursday
Today, the pain is finally subsiding, it’s not so bad today
I have never felt such bliss in... 6 days.
Oof ear infections must suck, hope you never have any dental infections that is the infinity pain right there
dental infection does not sound fun
@coral basin can help you with dental infections
thanks bob
cool
Whoever dms me the best picture ima put it in my tinder profile
how the hell does that even work
FOD everyone!
82DK has a good logi battalion :>
due to DKs overall size, the section is on same size level as a smaller logi clan would be :>
@midnight ore you tryin to stab a concrete butt ? xDD
YES @peak pumice
Fking hell WHY are they concrete
But wait
How'd you know they're concrete @peak pumice
Hmmmmm
Why wouldnt I know the Quality of one of my officers as DK high command? 😄 @midnight ore
Quality of his butt? @peak pumice
Uuh
Hey my brother got banned because he'd suggested that they retreat because they're getting overwhelmed and some toxic players witch-hunted him. Is there a report ticket I can put in?
@karmic ether make a supp report to see what happend
@coarse forge Just talked to him, apparently got it sorted. All goo
Imagine banning logi
uff, I never got that downvoted, I had to downvote myself too 😂
Anyone know a Colonial clan that’s more for just hanging out and playing the game than it is ranks and mil sim?
I looked through clan recruitment for the last week and the only ones the fit what I’m looking for are in wardens unfortunately
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I would if I could switch hah I’m already committed as colonials lol
Yeah was debating the correct channel to ask in
lol
@arctic vortex This needs to go in the Mod report channel
Are there any videos explaining how to take down structures, I’m returning after over a year away, and there seems to be a lot of new stuff?
@thick hornet You could use a harvester to destroy non-static structures but friendly structures would give a friendly fire warning and stop you eventually, or you can shoot them alot. Everything in this game can be torn down by shooting it enough
how to start your brain
Algun clan activo de habla hispana que reclute?
No habla espaniol amigo
So......who won the war ?
Atm it's still too early really, but I think the Wardens are beginning to get the upper hand but that was when I was last on
Last i on is the beginning of war -,-...dammit warden wait for me i coming to war
@compact prism hay un clan español llamado "Español 19", warden
Buscalo en la lista de squads
Gracias @subtle bramble
infantry preparing to take out a BT without tank support:
yeet
I also just noticed a weird visual bug with my falconets, the hats for the cannoneers stay static in one place while the rest of the model moves lol

i am going to call collies snotlings now
ok blueberry
Blueberry is such a weak slur lol
how can i report
i mean on discord
Modmail, i suppose
modmail is clap foot?
Ye
oof
i guess
wow i was going to think collies would come up with some way better insults but i guess not
tardens
come on think of something way more better my mind is full of collie insults right now
nah am too dumb to think any
you're fun
@forest bloom please do share
always good to have the interesting bunch in-game
? you mean my insults
and also why do they call colonials well colonials do they really colonize anything do they?
I mean lore wise we do, a LOT.
are you sure about that they don't really do well in wars
eh it's past its glory days
It's past the balanced days, I'm still in it to have fun with tanks
But if you want to look at lore the entire map is warden territory we've pushed into.
impossible
Well there's a presumably colonial aircraft base in the Moors, filled with toxot-88's
Wait not moors, stonecradle
my bad, the aircraft are in stonecradle
There's colonial AC's and tanks in the moors
but it shows us the colonials felt confident enough to put an airfield in Stonecradle.
we must destroy it
hmmm also i feel like foxhole should have a campaign for this
Maybe years down the line, but not now.
oof
yeah, singleplayer is like the last thing on the dev list
13 days wowie
Lmao destroyed
Cringe
10k
An idea: woudl you like to have flame throwers in game? I mean we have gas granades that already break geneva convention...
flame throwers can have shoot like an arrow I mean that you can accualy set frenches in a trenches on fire
and maybe destroy buildings faster
its my 3 argument and all your anwsers are 'why'
once there was no granade lunchers
you can say that you can just use mortals or howitzer
and they woudl fullfill the same role
@primal blaze
How is it advertising? LOL
Then I will just post the original video because it is not advertising XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6hC4qQbDzI&ab_channel=Sethical Sause on the audio, give this man some love. Hes my favorite shitposter
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Twitt...
s'it?
It's past midnight
I guess it is technically Friday
this is not how i wanted to start my day
I have a question. Do you guys want to join a tabletop RPG Delta Green session I have planned with a friend on the 16th or 17th, 4:30ish PST?
It's Call of Cthulhu with modern espionage.
Max its potato
Right now favorite game CK3. Stratgeic incet simulator
Hey guys, for those of us with more than two monitors wouldn't it be cool to be able to have the map open constantly on one?
Getting complaints form viewers that my map intel hider thing keeps ruining the experience so I thought if it was on another monitor viewers still get a seamless experience.
good day brothers and sisters
It might be considered too much of an advantage for people with two monitors, if the map could be left open all the time @hardy rampart
People are very sensitive about things as balance and player advantages
Hello wardens. Have you changed your sinful ways yet? Repent to me and I shall save you.
wasn't there a website that acted as an in-game map or something?
foxhole hq
It might be considered too much of an advantage for people with two monitors, if the map could be left open all the time @hardy rampart
@drifting heath
Yeah we can’t even have more than 9:16 windowed mode otherwise you’re handicapping yourself
If it was just blank (like the foxhole logo) till you pressed the map button, and then the foxhole logo popped up on 1st monitor with the map showing up on the 2nd then that'd be fine with me.
[left monitor] | [right monitor]
[foxhole logo] | [game]
press M
[map] | [foxhole logo]
That way it doesn't give anyone using this an advantage but it protects the map from stream viewing eyes.
like it's showing this pic across the 2nd monitor, or a more artsy one that's got even less color in it so your eyes won't get drawn to it.
We could work with that, I guess. Sounds like a good compromise
I posted that into the game-feedback section if you want to go vote
That would not be trivial to implement
Les go
So like i haven't been in on around 2 years and I'm is the populations low still or did it improve
The problem is viewers get annoyed seeing the intel blocker image constantly popping up.
So if there was some way of having the gameplay still show while I am looking at the map it would be cool. If a player looks at their map they can’t move. That would remove the main advantage.
It still unfortunately prevents you from getting snuck up on while reading the map, which is technically an advantage over people with only 1 monitor
If it was a freeze-frame of your screen from the moment you pressed M, that wouldn't look as bad I suppose
might still annoy your viewers tho
If it was a freezeframe, it'd be best if it had a dark overlay that said something like 'looking at map...' to communicate this instead of it appearing to be stuttering or freezing or lagging etc.
Id be fine if the second monitor just had the map and the game had a minimap that would function with intel because the current system only disadvantages you to be in the end annoying as standing still is require to consistently hit shots anyway so you constantly open and close the map.
It just be better if the game doesnt cause you to constantly interupt your gameplay with that
unpopular opinion: streamers shouldn't need to hide intel
reason: statistically nobody gives enough of a shit to cheat
reason 2: all somebody needs to cheat is pay 10 bucks for a second account
reason 3: it triggers clan men
hans did nothing wrong
If intel is uninportant like sir always said we could remove watchtowers as they provide no value
So i dont quite think its a logical assumption to make that intel is not important
chad where did i say intel wasnt important
i said sir, are you sir?
alright ill commit the self kill
I cant imagine that can be good for your bloodpressure
intel is important
however
you can also get roughly the same information if you have paint.net open, the circle tool, and a pair of binocs and a hint of stealth. it takes a little more effort, but intel is not hard to gather from just scouting things out
But nobody has todo that with how intel works in the game
..?
I dont think people would rely on peoples paint images when they could always require you to just build a watchtower and make a screenshot
what
they said you couldn't do an operation's dossier with paint
they were wrong
If you say a different method that will argubly take like 5 times as long and be 200 times as inaccurate is just as good i have some issues with that
so you have no issues with using streamer intel?
Anyway i always thought having to open the map every 3 seconds is dumb
Why would you think i do that ankle
well clearly the thing that takes about 5 minutes longer to do is so hard
Thats very accusatory when my issue is with how intel works in this game
you're being very defensive for a light prod
Considering that people always lead in to massive drama with that statement its not light
But i guess if the issue you have is with me now and not what i think sucks in the game the discussion itself wont be worth having
honestly: pretending operational intel is super secure and has never been seen by the other side is pointless. it has been seen at some point and if it's fresh it's going to be seen soon. whether by people who use streamer intel or partisans who report back to HQ about where bunker bases are and map out watchtower radii
what is my agenda?
I just dont want to have to open my map every 3 seconds
Ankle how about a good "scroll up"
nah
Talk with disk about that issue you seem to be having
whats the issue
I don't know
I don't knowwwwwww 
Good ol meet the engineer edit. All of you have been waiting a week for this. ALSO WE HAVE A DISCORD https://discord.gg/WnJe9aE
Stuff in the works, been busy.
The problem is that ankle needs a mouse with a scroll wheel
oh thats funny
my mouse has a scroll wheel thats broken and the right mouse button doesnt work if i dont click it in a certain specific way
lol
Choose your class
logitech? @maiden fern
lmao
I know some logitech mice have rmbs that will crap out
not had experience with razer though
Is the microswitch broken or what?
Oh i wouldve thought you mean foxhole as in anger
If i nudge my keyboard cable slightly the keyboard disconnects
Its the case it has bad USB connector
Keyboards for me lose their paint before they break
Currently the S key is just blank
say chad what is that kid saying in that video
He wants to play unreal tournament
where you had no idea if the person was genuinely mentally unwell
or, if you did, you probably bullied them until they killed themselves
The lad faked that video
hey guys is it possible to go into sewers
Ney
Imposter
blue kinda sus
angry german kid
he was such a good actor he fooled the world and destroyed his future careers
just when I thought things were alright I find this
https://i.imgur.com/p6Wvohd.jpg
One could make a universum out of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gzBhTL4oAs
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bro you know that moment when you have to make an account for a single player game
its a real wtf moment
n o
Altho... n o
More like Carbine
I bet that gun will jam after each shot.
@woven scarab why must you cause me pain
This is a protest song?
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@sour lance https://i.imgur.com/7hh73aQ.jpg
oh god
those remind me of the fuckin skeleton train from some casper the ghost game I played when I was really young
that spooked the hell out of me
what the fuck is that @forest iris
longg 1911
early access of baldurs gate 3 pretty fun
rifle pistol
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Just subscribe and hit the notification bell smh
considering I have like 40 active subscriptions they do sometimes pass me by
I unsubscribed a bunch last year
Mostly hollow content makers like ISP, bokoen and likes
And they still pop up because somehow the algorithm prefers them
looking back at my old videos im cringing at them a bit, i unlisted more than half of the videos i had
I’m sure we all feel the same
i think one video i had might've violated clapfoot confidentialty clause since there was some closed testing thing going on
Oof
well i think it was a different thing but it was just some behind the scenes stuff
realized they probably didnt give permission for me to make video of that stuff so i quickly took it down a few months /a year back
I think I’ve got one video I did which had a bit of a copyright claim
Tbh it was meming a trailer so I’m not surprised
dont really care about copyright, all it does is take income from ads away if you were monetizing videos which i wasnt
I don’t really care about monetising
for example my famous FCL in a nutshell video has copyright claim by anchorman but they dont take it down they just take revenue away which is fair
Besides I’m too small of a channel to start it
I’m more or less afraid to meme certain movie clips unless I know someone else memed it and even then I almost copy how they do their descriptions (i.e putting a link of the original video in the description) just so I don’t end up in a troublesome situation
ofc, to monetize videos you need 1000 subs and 4000 total hours watched by others
like my shitty ass channel has like 2k views per video on average and im still far from that
Oof
I only have like a few hundred views or something
And only a little more than a few dozen subs
i heard from dukesalt that he watches this video every once in a while even though its more than 3 years ago
and i think others also lol
Ah
like it gets posted in this discord too once every few months by some boomer veteran
the view count is steadily going up year by year its so funny
@modest knot it’s still great
its nearly time...
For those who care like sethfire, the ad agencies charge per 1k listeners or viewers. In reality you won't make a decent wage unless you have 10k plus subs/viewers/listeners.
The cost used to be $2.25 per 1k for video ads. Not sure if it's up or down from a couple years ago. Page ads were only .75, and audio ads being 1.50. this was all in USD
This is why internet radio sucks cause you make half the money. Which is why most actual radio stations are owned by a giant conglomerate like clear, or iHeartRadio, so they are able to make the most out of all the stations.
yo, can anyone help me with downloading the "Cataclysim DDA" launcher in github seeing i only ever use steam
had to delete the non-launcher one for reasons
dunnow if i should download everything or something
i am confusion
szoolq is the new code for among us
Can I post this type of memes?
smh old
Hi guys, I want to share with you this PC Gamer Article. Is amazing and maybe It can help the community to give a different paradigm about the game industry. Maybe even help you to enjoy the more current foxhole situation and more optimistic about the future of this game 
I am not a game dev, But I love all game-related stuff. I think devs from the industry are under a lot of pressure. It's nice for us the gamers to understand these issues so maybe in the future we can have even better games in a sustainable and healthy way
@dim isle nope
The article is interesting and im not sure how to wrap my thoughts up all, but things like "the industry was told by critics before they went into it", or "this stuff stemms from bright eyed developers doing their own projects and trying to copy that as an industry is impossible long term" or "maybe trying to make games cheaper instead of massive all the time wouldve been more sustainable for the industry".
Alot of times the industries issues stem from it being dumb and it cant expect that management failures they get warned about to be something people are "sad to hear". Especially given how big publishers treat contract based workers. Imagine always getting fired before the release of every game so it looks like the company makes more income on the bottom line just for others being hired under the pretense that the "Company is doing so well". They dont care alot about their teams well being even before games as a service.
Based on what mark says he is fairly strict getting people home which atleast means that crunch is minimal and theres not a fear of being a revolving door contract worker that presses on the devs in this studio. A much bigger pressure i think compared to delivering good content.
The people mentioned in that article have to worry more about being able to eat or get enough together to keep their housing then making sure some nerds playing games are happy.
I'm wondering if we wil have "ethical development" certs in the future for game development
So say that the company treated their workers fairly
Always a beautiful view 
why are all the names blurred
@valid steeple nah this is beautiful, when it's not tech yet
Oh the humanity
Pretty thouhgtful for you to blur out names but usually people have their gamer names for that
How not to waste resources 101!!
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That d
Why's it Rimworld tho?
human leather duster - masterwork
You mean, shirts from the hospital?
Delete this
human leather shirts
human leather shirts
@median shuttle I more love to kill furries and make coats out of them
Human leather sounds disturbing
btw these
owo uwu etc Isn't cute animal sounds? what?
@drowsy cipher I have recovered ancient pictures from the past of Teto and one of his very earliest pictures in life like 2-4 weeks old
He was two shades of light grey before turning into a black kitty
Guys, please go to into feedback and Commend my feedback post, this degeneracy has gone on for long enough and it's about high time we stop it.
Its muh kitty
Yeah, we have John Rambo ride on top of an AC firing an ATR singlehandily.
@fierce viper
My lamp changes its brightness on its own, and it's creppyas fuck
Especially before i knew it does that
Since it does it pretty smothly
@rose lotus awwwwwwww i didnt know it went from grey to black
When i got guri he was already all black
C A T
Guri and fod
ooh a harmonica
Yes i play it during infantry pushes
So my brother had his car stolen like a couple weeks ago. They found it yesterday abandoned in a alleyway, but that's not the craziest part.
When the police found it, it was upgraded like crazy. He lives in New Mexico n all so he told me that when he went to the station, he wasn't sure if it was the same car
They'd added brand new tires to it, a brand new engine, a grill and a muffler, fixed the AC, refurbished/replaced the dashboard and spraypainted it black. Ballpark figure was like 10k+ of upgrades
They also found an FM Transponder inside of it which was pretty wack to. I got pictures of it too it's insane
Before
And after LMAO
Dude like, brand new tires, new engine, new everything. They even replaced the suspension so he can go off roading
That's gonna be one hell of a crazy ass story xD
There's a winch on the front and stuff
the thief is chaotic good
He's not even mad anymore which is funny af
He's like "I couldn't afford to fix the AC and they did it for me"
Courtesy of the cartel or something haha
maybe it's my inner paranoid self talking but i'd get it checked out for microphones or tracking devices or something
So that's not even the nuttiest part
When the cops found it, they found inside of it an FM Transponder
So incase if the car got lost during a bad drug deal they guessed it was to try and locate it
ah
But it'd been sending in an alleyway for two days so they guessed they got their use out of it and just left it
sitting*
make sure they check it for speed bombs
He's going to check it once he gets new plates for it, I told him they might have a kilo in the car seat or something lol
So he's real paranoid right now but the police scoped through it before they gave it to him and told him about the transponder thingy
has the game gotten more optimized in the past 2 years? wasnt able to run it before and want to try it again.
@obsidian galleon you can play it on low setting
im aware multiple graphics settings exist
Well i think the game got more demanding. Optimized? Not sure about that since I only play on low and thats usually fine.
what a stupid looking game
i never got what made people play mmo's
they're games that are made to make you a tiny cog in a machine
i dont get why people genuinely want to feel what they could feel by working a minimum wage job
Most jobs don't have spaceships...
tbh EVE really is a spreadsheet simulator
as far as most MMOs go, they almost always sacrifice a lot of stuff for the sake of accessibility.
Is there an MMO with AAA graphics? Or an MMO that doesn't rely on stats?
mmo's are always about the clans and stuff, you can't do anything yourself is what im saying
you're just a cog that does a tiny role
I tried eve and it was... eh
I really didn't like that I couldn't just free-fly my ship everywhere, it had to be on-rails the whole time
and ugh, so much to do with just numbers and stats and everything
Depends. Quite a number of MMOs have singleplayer content. EVE is more open-ended in that regard
@plain mountain I was taught that space combat is 'right click target -> orbit target -> right click target -> attack -> repeat'
yeah basically
talk about boring af
it's simple, but mind-numbing
a cog
at that point it just becomes a dps battle instead of an actual dogfight
it's just all stupid to me
no u
and i really still find it weird how mmo games usually have communities that dont spill over in other games i play
couldn't really get past the interface either, it feels like you're literally playing windows 98 or something it's got so many drop down menus and lack of context commands
like people who play mmo's ONLY play mmo's
you should see Wurm Online
i dont understand them therefore i hate them
All video games are a waste of time
@maiden fern but you play foxhole. An mmo (in name)
foxohle is barely an mmo
which is why its community is so specific
my actions have direct consequences
i dont grind to grind, i grind to get tanks and petrol
then i have my direct reward
being in a clan isnt required
Depends on who puts the bar. 1000 people is pretty massive imho
A game can be mmo with direct consequences
...almost like an mmo
except if you do it for yourself
and most logi still profit off their work
there's barely any MMO elements
Well both wurm online and Eve online are RPGs....there about stats
As long as it's your choice to waste your time I guess it's ok
Eve online is so on rails because back when it was orgionally made to be able to ensure they could have any number of players they had to keep player behevaiour predictable
How often do you sit in a tank not moving or shooting?
Everything is a waste of time if you don't make profit out of it
Alot of MMOs are also RPGs disk so that might be why you think like you do about them
progress or profit. Or profit for the sake of progression.
@shrewd flume stats are common in RPGs but don't actually let you RP, change my mind
Ive heard people consider Dota as an MMO...
lol
Its hecking weird but it even had the tag in steam store
It's massive and multiplayer, but not massive multiplayer
it is is multiplayer and has a massive player base playing the same game...
Yeah RPGs stem from the min max attitude but the people RPing already had pen and paper to statisfy them
Nowadays its pretty effing uneven if you wanna RP i guess there is Sea of thieves
the term MMO is really subjective. you could technically classify minecraft as an MMO as well
IMO the last MMORPG game I played that actually let me RP was Star Wars the Old Republic with the conversation and light/dark options
¯_(ツ)_/¯
The actual stats are just stats, they don't tell you anything about the kind of person your character is
I assume that usually means in the same game world, ie. they can meet and affect each other
The term was just shaven off from all the MMORPGs which invented the term
can minecraft support 100+ people simultaneously? sure, does it support it very well? hell no
hypixel is practically not minecraft anymore in terms of any of its normal content, it's all been scripted into something that can support those huge amounts of people
anclet some minecraft servers have over 1k people 
hypixel is like 50 serves smashed into one
I find MMORPGs are very MMO but not very RPG. I like Star Trek Online, but there is literally 0 RP in that game.
It's more about how the game is mostly played
@maiden fern I'd like to see 1000+ people handled on a normal minecraft world though. if the base game cannot handle that amount of people, it is not intrinsically an MMO
Look at factorio, it can handle thousands of players easily on one map but it is not seen as a multiplayer game
factorio is also not really balanced with thousands of players in mind either
stop it you're making me want to play minecraft anclet
do it
i didnt even try the newest update
A mission in STO is as follows:
- Read conversation with only 1 dialogue option
- Fight stuff
- More dialogue with only 1 option
- Fight more stuff
- Dialogue with 2 options that have the same result
- Fight even more stuff
- The end.
So in ankles definition its important that the very balance accounts for the number of players
I think the very core game has to be balanced around a mass amount of players, around 100+ or more, in a single shard/server
The only real RPG gameplay that STO had were the Foundry missions.
But they nuked the Foundry
Foundry = player-made missions
They even homogenized the Federation and Klingon factions
Now they're interchangable
a game that is designed from its core to be a massive multiplayer experience, thus, fits the definition. other games are often expanded upon and built on to handle such numbers, but were not originally intended to be so large and so experience problems or faults in either the programming or balancing
The game is practically a step down from the original pay to play game in 2010
round 100+ or more, in a single shard/server
tfw a game with 128 player servers is an MMO
The issue is that MMO games dont have a good future because theres a limited number of people and they have limited playtime, they eventually want to be able to achieve a goal in their game and then be done with it which even if a fraction of them doing so means that keeping a stable population wont work out over the years these games plan to exist.
Then also people rush out the content but because its planned with the entire server in mind those few people create a sitaution in which alot of people cant even appreciate the content rushed through and activated by a fraction of skilled players (Example WoW and AhnQuiraj) so its still just about a few people who care about the game alot.
chad
technically I feel it fits the bill, as long as it's made to also support those numbers @woven scarab
128 player Battlefield 2 servers 👌
I know but recently players have not been all that happy
the game has still been going for a LONG time chad
How else blizzard wouldve even considered classic?
All of the content in WoW and such games is handcrafted, so obviously you're going to run out.
EVE isn't quick to run out
Im not implying here the games need to 100% die to show their issues it can just be dips in playerbases. If you have a running subcription you are bound to also play that game for an entire month
the reason they even had to make classic is that their core fanbase grew up, you realize how that's specific to MMO games right?
if it can support that amount of players at a constant rate and not struggle to provide content or fit that many players in a single map I don't see why it wouldn't be considered an MMO (at least for the time) @woven scarab
but I think most would brand it an FPS
IMO games like WOW are out of style
@plain mountain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7n7x08fwg
First official Omaha beach assault with 128 players battling it out on the beaches of Normandy!
👌
MMO's in general are fallen out of favor
people just dont want the huge time investment
WOW is living long past its prime
I just think of all the Live service games that are now being made that will get sub par player numbers
yes with its original fanbase
if any MMO came around that has the same premise, established universe design like wow with 2020 graphics it would be pretty good game
at this point mmos have to start delivering more than just a wow or guild wars experience to survive
but nobody would play it rem
there's a reason games like fortnite are the mainstream
what about all the fanboys from the previous game that wow also had
people want competitive games
but disk, fortnite bad
A static NPC that stands around all day waiting for you to take the quest feels very much last decade
if we say it enough the boogeyman might go away
People dont want one thing, people want many things and developers only providing alot of 1 thing is the issue
@woven scarab that actually looks cool as hell ngl
No single game can be all games or provide enough on its own live services are trying to hard
the only game that can be everything is minecraft
everything is minecraft in the end
i think games like WOW got so huge because back in the day there werent really any alternatives to play
Minecraft is very open-ended and that helps with its longevity
runescape, although no quite like it was a pretty big deal in the past
Wow kinda got designed to be the MMORPGS but not shit at the time
I'd like an MMORPG that focuses on the RP part
Im sure it could be done again but it would cater to people it cant get all the people
it definitely would be a smaller project
Games like Among us or fall guys are just games anyone can get into
Minecraft is very open-ended and that helps with its longevity
plus it helps that it gets updates that extend that longevity of creativity, you can get a lot for your money's worth because it provides such a huge palette, which is why I think it's lasted so long (plus modding community)
Star Wars Galaxies was also pretty damn popular
unless MMO goes back into mainstream
well nothing can reach up to the content swamp that is WOW right out of the box
because im fucking tired of the battle royale main stream
like come on 5 years of this shit end already you assholes
PUBG is trash, fuck off
but still, I think the premise of an established universe with a lively past can become quite a good MMO
It's zombies all over again
Is that even mainstream anymore? I imagine we will be gettin live servie looter shooters and Fall guy clones next
z o m b i e s
call of duty zombies sucks, don't try to change my mind
chad as long as fortnine is the most popular game then battle royales will be
fall guys is kinda the next iteration of battle royale tbh, it's still huge amounts of people competing against eachother it's just more puzzle-y
Also Takeshi's Castle
oh yeah I keep forgetting that existed
battle royale is like the epitome of maximizing competitive feeling per game time
only one winner
and you can restart easily if you fail
I guess that also makes fall guys a battle royale if thats how you define it
it.. pretty much is?
fall guys = wipeout if anyone remembers that show
being 1 winner out of 100 gives a lot of the happiness chemical, hence people like it
Among us doesnt fall in that area though
among us is clue but modernized
among us is just a fad
probably
All popular games are fads disk, thats a nonstatement
it's not expensive or complex
"who killed mr. body?" but randomized for maximum potential
i dont see among us still being mainstream in 2 months
depends how many streamers will keep it going
I dont care if somethings mainstream really but its difficult to play games people dont play
I think among us will be mainstream as long as covid exists
entirely possible
its the perfect couch co-op game for a pandemic
Couch co-op is a strange term in covid world
yeah xD
imagine screen peeking in among us
Uncouched coop
virtual couch co-op 
You guys own a couch?
among us actually does have rules for when youre playing in person
which has now become discord
I think Fall guys and Among us definetly shows that its not about having a complex product to get anywhere
doesn't discord have direct integration for among us?
not that I know
I saw some people in hangouts here the other day playing it and it popped up unique UI for it
discord does have a general game overlay
i hate everything
lol
Disk why do you look for things to hate
at least it's not allcaps
its mrbeast too, that guy who planted the trees
Ah yes 2020 the year of "Atleast its not X"
yeah I think caps would push it over the edge into annoying for me
@shrewd flume at least it's not butter
Atleast its not lootboxes or microtransactions or X
I can't believe it's not the apocalypse
why do youtubers have to take a fun game and turn it competitive
Atleast im not dying
I can't believe it's not butter
@maiden fern maybe that youtube channel named I hate everything is something for you? 😛
sad its not an apocalypse, would liven up the place for once
lol
@short berry i hate i hate everything
Giant Meteor 2020
he just complains and hates mars bars
I am filled with doubt as to whether or not this product may or may not contain dairy that has been churned into its subproduct known as butter
@maiden fern does he have a video about hating him?
several
ew margarine
would buy it just for the amazing description
literal vegetable grease
Why do people hate marge so much
Its very american to hate margerine
good
Wisconsin had anti magerine laws in 1881 making it contraband
hey kid, I got some margarine
why though
So that butter was better, because people who made butter didnt want competition the arch enemy of capitalism
but muh free market
Secretly not having a free market is very american
wild shit went on in the 1800s in america, I wouldn't be surprised the banning was a heavy-handed measure to stop people from mixing it into regular butter or something
didnt like a civil war happen too
yeah that happened too
weird shit
it's like 2nd most important war for early US history
1st is war of independence, everyone knows that one
civil was is secondly well know cause it got rid of slavery
except i dont care because im not american 
https://www.irishcentral.com/culture/food-drink/kerrygold-butter-wisconsin-legal
Just read that tagline
1812 ehhhh we got asses kicked but also kicked british asses again
Margerine legalized in 2018
spanish war? what war?
war with mexico
oh yeah the alamo
remember that time the white house got burnt down
yeah that was the war of 1812
they dont teach that in school
I mean I learned about it
Hey if anything nobody can claim america has little history just because of its short existence
some americans schools have you recite a pledge of allegiance everyday
Theres enough weird shit to fill entire textbooks
there's a bunch if you dig deeply enough but the 3 most mentioned and taught are 1776, 1812, and the civil war
says the country that has only existed for less time than america
if you ask me, america is like a peek back into the 19th century but with a modern jacket.
Lol haha disk
germany 5: this time we won't screw up we promise
also wasn't the HRE more frankish?
Must be insufferable to talk with people from a socialist goverment given how america ....hates that
it had a bunch of german states but it leaned more towards the west of europe
if you think your government is socialist then boy do i have news for you chad
SAD
SAD!
absolutely the saddest
Dont be sad
where are all my political anti trump meme sites
let's make it illegal they said
I saved a bunch
""""prohibition""""
now I can only find 404's and my porn collection :/
let's make people sober they said
Oh yeah berlin was thinking about banning alcohol
in germany?
Hahah yeah
@short berry i absolutely hate you
my god
You can imagine how that went with the people
uh we might get a alcohol sale ban after 6 or something in the netherlands
why is beyond me
where are all my political anti trump meme sites
I'd post some but I'd get muted
The measure was to stop people going to bars and night clubs
but ive got my moonshine tub ready
because covid
@woven scarab https://vine.co/v/ieKI9rebnEB
tfw vine doesnt embedd on discord
so basically "we wanted to implement a 'curfew' but ended up picking the one thing that has time and time again in human history been shown to be a bad thing"
"limiting the consumption of alcohol"
They didnt do it after people got mad
well we don't want to make large amounts of germans angry again
good thing, we avoided a catastrophy
Wouldve been sober germans too
the worst kind of germans
imagine the fortifications
hanz i built a bunker in the bunker that's in our bunker
All fortifications would be nightclubs, nightclubs with bars and bars with nightclubs
fortified lapdances
🤔
does germany just have a ton of night clubs
you did mention all your friends work in night clubs so im taking a guess lol
I dont know but its apparently enough of a reason for an alcohol curfew
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Das Booooot!...
die of cringe
Its very cring
did you watch it
In progress
it's actually pretty funny
eh its just german stuff and accent, every nation gets the piss taken out of them
also that jawline tho
yes but thats what i think of when i hear german night club
milk boot
milk boot
chad after a night in town
Smh pledge of allegiance is a total bop
can you believe it was made 9 years ago
youtube was like 4 years old
pewdiepie was still pretty average
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWxISwEBU0U
I guess this works this year too
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it's funny though how many times the word "das" is used
It's like the word to overuse when you want to sound german
Das das boot
Lmao hoers
hôres
@real swift that's funny
no thats next war



