Might go Colonial in War 58 but I don't know I really love snow,
#general-discussion
karmic ether
chrome flower
Dont worry if you go Colonial youll get to fight in snow eventually xD
karmic ether
What should I chose? I mean how gamechanging this update to a sniper?
maiden fern
oh you use snipers. how cute
karmic ether
Nobody said that to me before 😊
But Yes I'm a sniper at least most of the time
If I'm smart I can eliminate emeny vehicles with a AT gun or at leaft disable Its track and throw granate on it to disarm if Its a tank,
If they calculate that well AT gun has usage on the vehicle weakpoints,
Now that open top vehicles are fragile one granate enough to kill the crew
About Balista take out its engine and Its yours Unless Its crew decide to leave the tank,
About Silverhand well Its big bit immune to mortar fire,
So destroy Its tracks and force the crew to leave the vehicle or die with it
maiden fern
i dont think you can immobilise vehicles with just modular damage
karmic ether
They don't talk about that?
maiden fern
you can slow them down by tracking but you cant straight up immobilise
also the engine only causes fuel leaks
which i guess is a way to stop a tank
karmic ether
This. Much more soft and kind than I think might change in the future,
chrome flower
🤔 If you slow it down you may be able to gas the crew out before they manage to retreate
maiden fern
if there was a way to instantly cripple a tank that didnt require to damage them with a powerful weapon, tanks would become completely useless
high rain
If I retrieve my own bmats from refinery as crates, can I give them to someone else who is NOT in my squad and have THEM store it in their depot squad storage?
karmic ether
if there was a way to instantly cripple a tank that didnt require to damage them with a powerful weapon tanks would become completely useless
@maiden fern
20:1 soldier comes alive that,
Its really hard and takes a good thinking, and agility,
Its works for me in HLL, PS and Enlisted, because enlisted use WT physics!
Tanks are not because useless if they become realistic,
maiden fern
so you're saying that using a mortar on the engine block requires effort
woven scarab
mortar ain't accurate enough for anything more than a lucky hit
in real life anyway
mortar in foxhole is too accurate
maiden fern
this is foxhole
and even if they were less accurate you could still just get 4 people and insta cripple tanks
karmic ether
Whats a mortal shell penetration?
10mm 9mm 15mm?
Mortal brigs a lot of explosive power not AP shells,
maiden fern
mortars are themselves flawed in game due to how simple the game is
lets hope the arty update will fix that
woven scarab
mortar shell with impact fuse will do little against roof armor
karmic ether
Artillery is different,
But thats might not possibile
maiden fern
tanks have a lot less armor on the roof
chrome flower
Would be cool if you could destroy a tank by landing a mortar shell into commanders hatch. Beacouse i know that happened at least one in ww2
woven scarab
I wanna throw a grenade in there
chrome flower
That might work too
The one time that happened was in the battle of Dukla pass i think. Czechoslovakian brigade in USSR managed to land a shell inside Slovakian LT vz.35. I think it was from the 120mm mortar as well
karmic ether
In WW2 T 34 was also weak against molotov cocktail,
The hungarians knows that too,
cursive solar
imagine purpose building a glass sphere or a anti-tank rifle bullet with teargas or any kind of gas inside of them just to take out a tank, but all of your efforts were wasted because none of the efforts were viable in the first place, being outcompeted by a simple petrol bomb with a glass bottle
karmic ether
That tank burn out and blows up inside out and Its suspension brake under its weight,
maiden fern
i think its more about the burning liquid entering into the engine and fucking it up
karmic ether
Yes
maiden fern
if it actually burnt out the tank you wouldnt still have a turret on that t-34 due to the shells cooking off
chrome flower
Yeah i dont think Molotovs were all that efective. The liquid burns too fast and it burns off the motor only if you get lucky due to FPE and the design of the tank
maiden fern
not to mention you had to be in throwing range
karmic ether
Not all time but here you go @maiden fern
maiden fern
something which AT grenades were better at
cursive solar
eh molotovs work sometimes, but landmines work wonders
just a shitload of explosives can do the trick
leave it on the T-34 engine grill and blow it up
chrome flower
The early Pz IVs were pretty well protected against Petrol bombs. The Engine hatches didnt had any holes in them all air intakes were from the sieds
maiden fern
@karmic ether i refuse to believe simple burning gas can melt fucking armour steel
chrome flower
eh molotovs work sometimes, but landmines work wonders
Japanese liked to wreck Shermans with Stachel charges
chrome flower
How bout Lunge mines?
chrome flower
Thats the one
cursive solar
no it' was technically shaped charge but it used existing fuses or something
something like a hand grenade fuse
karmic ether
@chrome flower alcohols Isn't Petrol, Its burn out slowly,
In some bars high alcohol drunk use to be served while the liquid burning, it has a beautiful blue fire
cursive solar
so you'd have to strike it with a hard object and then pull the pin
and hold it against the tank for a few seconds
maiden fern
alcohol doesnt produce nearly the same heat as petrol
chrome flower
Yeah i know. Youd still have to be really lucky to take out any tank
karmic ether
@maiden fern Where you lean that? The still don't melt under fire just heated up or bend,
cursive solar
taking out tanks is one thing
maiden fern
@karmic ether
karmic ether
Mighty soviet Is 3 but where Its turret?
maiden fern
@karmic ether
cursive solar
IS-3
is that from postwar hungary or something
maiden fern
and just so you know drinking alcohol has a pretty low percentage of ethanol in it so it burns a lot less
karmic ether
@maiden fern Yes the still bend under the HEAT but not melt down,
Molotov not make a tanks into asteaming hot podle of liquid steal, 💙
@cursive solar 1956
maiden fern
unless hungarian resistance members had a way to separate pure ethanol from their vodka
cursive solar
I figured
karmic ether
@maiden fern Pälinka stronger then Vodka
cursive solar
postwar soviet city training for tankers was probably minimal
karmic ether
And the huns have a lot of them
maiden fern
again this is just an open fire burning on the surface of a tank, if you think that's enough to even soften steel then you underestimate tank armour
yes it could heat up inside the tank to uncomfortable levels but it wouldnt make the tank into play doe
chrome flower
The best it can do is overheat the engine
chrome flower
Youd had to get REALLY lucky wit that fuel
karmic ether
80% Pälinka the normal around 40-50%
I would feel that! 💙
maiden fern
if the tanks were diesel engines maybe they'd start a runaway and THAT would be bad for the crew https://youtu.be/zh9lU3zihvU
chrome flower
Look at that back almost totally flat. That lowers the chance for the fuel to get inside
karmic ether
Sadly we don't have a vehicle in Foxhole that based on Panzer serie😔
cursive solar
good, don't want 15-ton crane operator/mechanic game every time command delays parts shipments for a upcoming offensive on a nearby front
chrome flower
To be fair Pz IV and down were pretty reliable
maiden fern
yeah
maiden fern
i dont get why people focus so much on german prototypes when all countries had stupid ideas
chrome flower
Ehm. They have a certain charm to them...
cursive solar
when german army high command notes poland as a strategic faiure
karmic ether
Ah yes, Making devbranch earlier for "streamers" that have one viewer, and then delaying it Two fucking times cz its "not ready sorry uwu" they dont even care anymore, i mean what do we expect from people who fucking ban for a lemon joke
How would a Panzer series based tank serie fit inside Foxhole and how does it looked like?
chrome flower
Good qestion
cursive solar
it would have proprietary materials to fix it's system
shrewd flume
Well for one it probably would be a blend of things and not just one thing
maiden fern
i mean warden vehicles have a bit of german to them so i wouldnt think it's out of the question to have a panzer looking one
sinful bridgeBOT
ClapfootLoveLemons#5030 was muted | low effort troll
atomic meteor
Well that was easy
cursive solar
ez clap
maiden fern
i really wouldnt be against going away from the stupid round designs
karmic ether
Okey I search for panzers 💙
atomic meteor
Do y'all think it's a little hard to differentiate between the warden vics because of that, or nah?
maiden fern
i think devs take the "distinctive aspects" too seriously
cursive solar
warden tanks have more in common with british design philosophies of prototyping and improving designs over many cycles
notably the many mks
chrome flower
So we would have...
PzI (Light tank designed against infantry)
PzII (Light AT tank with autocannon)
PzIII (A proper medium AT)
PzIV (A heavy tank for infantry support)
StuG III (A Self proppeled gun for infantry support)
maiden fern
i hate that all warden vehicles have to be super round and all colonial vehicles have to be super angular. all countries had variations and so should foxhole vehicles
gaunt geyser
And the ostwind!!
cursive solar
why ostwind
woven scarab
and my axe!
gaunt geyser
Cause it's a good tank
woven scarab
it's an SPAA
cursive solar
why not go wirbel for the hell of it
chrome flower
i hate that all warden vehicles have to be super round and all colonial vehicles have to be super angular. all countries had variations and so should foxhole vehicles
Yeah FCM36 and Hotchkiss 35
karmic ether
And I found! This will be the Panzer II base in Foxhole Its a Blueprint vehicle the prototype of the panzer II prototype
gaunt geyser
Good against infantry, planes and even light vehicles
woven scarab
that's the vk 3601, the predecessor to the Tiger
maiden fern
until it gets shot by either one of them in actual real life scenarios @gaunt geyser
chrome flower
But if we were to go by Wardens round...
gaunt geyser
Look at this dood
cursive solar
what is that
chrome flower
Char Peugeot
cursive solar
that looks awsome and terrible against infantry at the same time
chrome flower
From 1918
maiden fern
too french
gaunt geyser
Must be a hell to manufacture
woven scarab
I prefer le cône
cursive solar
Cone was a managable tank
maiden fern
the turret looks like it's made from several pieces so i dont think it's too hard @gaunt geyser
gaunt geyser
Eh yeah
chrome flower
You mean my boy FCM36?
woven scarab
le cône
gaunt geyser
But that firing angle tho
karmic ether
@gaunt geyser Casting
And you only need a shape form to cast out the body of the tank
chrome flower
FCM36 was well armoured. but the gun... Why did the French manufactured so many SA18s
gaunt geyser
Well we had surplus from ww1
chrome flower
Yeah i know
cursive solar
they used WW1 surplus for magino because the civillians that worked army spending just did that
chrome flower
I still love French interwar tanks
maiden fern
i hate all french tanks
cursive solar
oy no
maiden fern
they all have a distinctive flaw that makes them terrible
gaunt geyser
French tanks are okay
chrome flower
They have their reasons why they have those flaws
sharp surge
how do i join devbranch server?
gaunt geyser
They are still better than the Bob semple
woven scarab
AMX-13 is 👌
gaunt geyser
@sharp surge no devbranch yet
chrome flower
Thats not interwar tho
gaunt geyser
French modern tanks are pretty cool
karmic ether
FXM 36 would fit inside foxhole for the Warden but with some changes,
It will have a bigger gun and get the Warden LT tracks
drowsy cipher
woven scarab
the correct answer is no radios
using flags
cursive solar
them there's the soviet tanks with all of them sporting a autoloader
chrome flower
So french tank flaws:
Bad guns - WW1 Surplus small military budget
Two man designs - Small male population after WW2
Sure theres many more
maiden fern
no i mean they all have at least one flaw that makes the bad. its like french always focus on one part of the tank and say fuck it with the rest
atomic meteor
Guns weren't too bad for the time tbh.
cursive solar
Dimitri help, my hand is stuck in the autoloader
atomic meteor
The ergonomics were shit on the B1, but other than that it was manageable.
cursive solar
Whirr
AAAAAA
atomic meteor
The biggest flaw is just not having radios. Would've overcome so much.
maiden fern
it didnt have mobility. thats not good in modern WW2 tank combat @atomic meteor
gaunt geyser
Are the French the only ones to use wheeled tanks?
karmic ether
If we have a Warden Super heavy tanks pipeline 💙
gaunt geyser
It seems like it
atomic meteor
There was no "modern tank combat" in 1939.
maiden fern
yes they were ok in defence but imagine the french attacking with b1 tanks
cursive solar
ah yes, permanent trackage
maiden fern
im saying "modern" in the way that its not just slow ass moving pieces of metal on no mans land @atomic meteor
gaunt geyser
There kinda was a modern tank combat in 1939
cursive solar
division org down to 0
gaunt geyser
In the few panzerdivisions
chrome flower
yes they were ok in defence but imagine the french attacking with b1 tanks
Battle of Stonne?
frozen elk
too many people think about tanks in WW2 like they're MBTs of today
gaunt geyser
Ye
atomic meteor
If they simply had radios, things would have gone much worse for the Germans. That's not to touch on the serious flawsnin the fresh high command though . . . .
chrome flower
What was the ratio? 13 destroyed German tanks no B1bis lost?
cursive solar
the french command structure was dated in the first place
atomic meteor
B1s were only part of their tank arm. The H35s were ok.
gaunt geyser
Our high command was bad several times in history
cursive solar
generals got bamboozled hard
karmic ether
Would FCM 1A would fit into the game to the wardens? As the Silverhand updrated version
cursive solar
Long boi
gaunt geyser
It's like a curse that sticks with the French republic
maiden fern
@atomic meteor radios werent the only flaw, like i said germans could just produce more panzers and flank the slow moving b1's
atomic meteor
"dated" doesn't even begin to cover it. It's honestly disastrous. English were pretty shit at the time too, but they got over it.
cursive solar
the british equipment was just good enough to curbstomp colonial subjects
atomic meteor
Like, you want to grab the bastards by the shoulders and shake them, screaming DONT YOU REALIZE YOURE FIGHTING A WAR???
cursive solar
the labor governments didn't allow expansion
maiden fern
if germans had more artillery and more dive bombers i bet b1's wouldnt even have been remembered
atomic meteor
French had more tanks that the Germans though 
gaunt geyser
They had less men tho
cursive solar
the french were actually pretty good on motorization after ww1
frozen elk
germans
having planes
atomic meteor
It wasn't that the Germans outnumbered their tanks, it's that they concentrated them and used local superiority and maneuverability (thanks to working radios) that won the blitz.
chrome flower
gaunt geyser
And our tanks lacked mobility and support
frozen elk
the absolute STATE of allied air superiority by 1944
maiden fern
@atomic meteor yes but we're talking about b1's here. panzers didnt have problems killing the less armoured slow ass weak cannoned smaller french tanks
atomic meteor
Support wasn't even a word in their tactics handbooks lol
cursive solar
when you overdo air superiority that friendly fire was the bigger issue than the luftwaffe
gaunt geyser
Luftwaffe got really just in the battle of France tho
atomic meteor
Considering the vast majority of the tanks the Germans used were fucking PZ1s, I don't think inferior french tanks were the problem.
gaunt geyser
Like half of their planes
karmic ether
Good Hell to these french I mean Warden engineers
COULD AMX 30 fit into foxhole Its a Idk
cursive solar
le quack
gaunt geyser
They had better doctrines and no allies that spoke another language
karmic ether
Why does every French tank looks like a Duck?!!?
frozen elk
i blame the history channel for this argument
atomic meteor
That's a safe bet @frozen elk
gaunt geyser
And no corrupt commanders
frozen elk
honestly fuck the history channel, they're the entire reason you get so much fucking "but what if"ism about the germans in WW2, and also why we have so many fucking wehraboos
atomic meteor
That's what happens when a public channel sells out
frozen elk
that and they dissed the sherman and i like the sherman but that's a personal vendetta
gaunt geyser
Damn, high command is still hated by French soldiers today
maiden fern
im pretty sure all armies hate their superiors
cursive solar
@gaunt geyser how's the adoption of hk416 going for ya
atomic meteor
To be fair, much if the wheraboo ammo is kinda the US's fault
frozen elk
oh definitely
gaunt geyser
@cursive solar I don't like it
karmic ether
For a relic van? Totaly useless but fun and Its a bigger inventory fast and has a 6 seating in it,
gaunt geyser
We had a better option
atomic meteor
They took in former German commanders and had them write about Soviet doctrine, and in the absence of Soviet voices, it gave a "superior" depiction of the German army VS the "human wave" red army.
gaunt geyser
The French weapons used by the Australian army
cursive solar
hey, you're in a better position than only having 2 weeks worth of ammo for wartime expenditure
JSDF moment
gaunt geyser
Oof
gaunt geyser
We still have Dassault stuff tho
frozen elk
yeah, i've talked to plenty of russians and just in general people who know plenty of stuff about the russian military doctrine back then and it's so misrepresented
operation paperclip was a mistake
cursive solar
russian soldier has clip of mosin tokarev ammo in uraah charge burying enemy with bodies for the motherland
karmic ether
Would a relic van has place in the game?
maiden fern
but muh enemies at the gate
cursive solar
MuH ENEmies at the GaeTT
frozen elk
the MAS-36 is honestly one of my favorite (if not my complete favorite) bolt action rifles
maiden fern
of course the red army only gave some soldiers ammo without weapons, isnt that how an army works
karmic ether
@cursive solar And get headshot by Simo Häyhä 💙
cursive solar
MAS-36 worked, but it's very sad that despite the RSC existing, they couldn't adopt a selfloading rifle
frozen elk
oh totally
cursive solar
they worked on it during 1914
chrome flower
the MAS-36 is honestly one of my favorite (if not my complete favorite) bolt action rifles
I love it just for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA3VsMteAxk
frozen elk
lmao nice
cursive solar
if the great war was later, the french would have been legendary
frozen elk
i actually quite like french guns, they're interesting
cursive solar
and not a consistient clusterfuck
karmic ether
About weapons What type of weapons you would love?
maiden fern
french guns are good, not just interesting
frozen elk
ye
cursive solar
I will defend the chauchat to the grave
chrome flower
I mean Austro-Hungary also worked on Semiauto rifles even before WW1
maiden fern
they are extremely underrepresented
atomic meteor
Eh. Much of the French "getting good" was necessitated by experiencing the wars firsthand. A few more years of peacetime wouldn't've made a big difference.
frozen elk
my thing about the chauchat is that it was an excellent gun, just not for the conditions of the war i'd say
cursive solar
the french do many revolutionary things, just at the wrong time
chrome flower
They work kinda like Gewehr 42
cursive solar
poudre b moment
atomic meteor
For the conditions of the French Army in 1916, it was the gun for the job.
frozen elk
another thing about the chauchat was that it was really thin, which made it somewhat awkward too iirc
atomic meteor
An LMG that can be manufactured in a bicycle factory, for goodness sake.
maiden fern
the chauchat having a bad rep is literally only because of the american versions having wrong or bad ammo and thus being extremely unreliable
cursive solar
Pierre, the fucking magazine lip
gaunt geyser
French army was ruined by bureaucracy, and the modern military thinkers like de Gaulle had no power to make a better army
cursive solar
Fix it
frozen elk
absolutely PISSED about the fact that the US didn't adopt the lewis gun or the lewis assault phase rifle
atomic meteor
It was also a straight janky gun, but that's the point so.
karmic ether
So the Warden Assault rifle will have parts from French German and Ausztro-Hungarian weapons???
Faction based weapons would be nice maybe next update
maiden fern
definitely not anytime soon
cursive solar
the lewis was objectively better but the expeditionary force used the chauchat for some reason
36,000 of them worth much in taxpayer revenue wasted
gaunt geyser
Because they were equipped by the french
cursive solar
relegated to the airforce
atomic meteor
Probably an issue of availability
I'll bet they were able to manufacture way more chauchats than Lewis guns
gaunt geyser
And the chauchat was working with the French caliber
cursive solar
then there's the belgians who get curbstomped and forgotten
frozen elk
to me, the lewis gun not being adopted along with UCP, the M14, and the forward assist on the AR15 are just examples of how fucked the US army is
cursive solar
staying neutral will work right guys?
atomic meteor
Shouldn't've pussied out of the Maginot extension
gaunt geyser
@cursive solar they gotta defend their forts goddamit
karmic ether
I really like the idea Foxhole modellers take more guns and make one unique gun out of 4 real life guns 💙
Same with vehicles
maiden fern
@cursive solar
sweden
yes
atomic meteor
Bruh the forward assist is barely the same caliber as that other shit, much less the adoption of the M16 at all lol
At least the forward assist did what it was supposed to
frozen elk
the army has a fucking historical record of making stupid decisions because they don't fucking understand shit
that and beauracracy
cursive solar
the US army can drown the enemy in fire support at the end of the day
plain mountain
french generals circa 1940: mmm big trees
cursive solar
when one american steel mill in detroit produce more steel than the entire axis powers
maiden fern
bruh you think thats bad imagine being issued the L85 and it literally falling apart in your hands @frozen elk
frozen elk
UCP has statistically shown to have increased casualties in all wars it was used in
shrewd flume
Who wouldnt like big trees?
atomic meteor
It's because what they want isn't possible, so they run out of time and money and their temporary solution hacked in solution becomes the defacto standard for the next 50 years.
gaunt geyser
The strength of the US army was that they couldn't follow orders properly
And carpet bombing
frozen elk
bruh you think thats bad imagine being issued the L85 and it literally falling apart in your hands @frozen elk
@maiden fern imagine wearing camouflage that may as well be a hi-vis vest
maiden fern
at least your weapon works
atomic meteor
UCP is next level shitshow. Absolutely an M16-caliber fuckup.
maiden fern
you know the things you need
frozen elk
i absolutely love the M16 purely because it just fucking works
gaunt geyser
Camouflage was seen as being weak at the time
frozen elk
ofc they had a bunch of bullshit at first but eventually it balanced out and got better
atomic meteor
*M16A1 and onward. Remember the issues the M16 vanilla had.
cursive solar
when all of the univeral weapons programs with germans fails, so you just make your own system
ah yes, the 'self-cleaning' rifle
ebon walrus
What was the last piece of armor that the army has actually gotten into production
The jltv?
atomic meteor
What kind of armor?
frozen elk
as a platform i'd say the AR15 is arguably the best, purely because of how modifiable it is compared to kalashnikovs as a platform
cursive solar
the MRAP
atomic meteor
HK416 GOAT fite me
cursive solar
it's fairly modern
ebon walrus
They have started like 15 ground vehicle programs that have all died lol
gaunt geyser
Kalashnikov is eaiser to use, so better for a conscripts army
cursive solar
kalanishcov was minmaxing production
maiden fern
i love the AR15 too. it has so many possible versions and it was WAY ahead of its time. if only stoner got the stoner gun to work.... @frozen elk
atomic meteor
Nahh, the Army's done a few lighter vehicles. Just did a contract for what looks like a stripped down buggy version of the Humvee.
frozen elk
@atomic meteor [laughs in gaelic]
ebon walrus
The marines are using the HK416 now
cloud latch
GAS is a collie faction, right?
cursive solar
no
cloud latch
Warden faction then.
ebon walrus
You mean the JLTV?
cursive solar
no
ebon walrus
The jltv is damn good
gaunt geyser
Noot
atomic meteor
Jltv iirc is the most recent completed order though.
frozen elk
absolutely pissed about 7.62x51mm's adoption as well as the m14
cursive solar
Em-2
frozen elk
the EM-2 and FAL deserved to be the actual fucking right arms of the free world
atomic meteor
B-b-b-but, muh Rifleman cult!
gaunt geyser
Ah, the FAL
maiden fern
bruh the FAL is way too big
atomic meteor
FAL absolutely is. Great gun.
ebon walrus
The amount of Bradley replacement programs is a meme tho
atomic meteor
Yeah still is.
gaunt geyser
It was good against wooden covered weapons
frozen elk
M14 was an excellent gun for the wrong war
as a design, at least
then you get into the QA issues
maiden fern
automatic m14
atomic meteor
Yeah, pinnacle of Garand's system I believe.
frozen elk
and the fact that they tried to make an OICW of it ruined it
cursive solar
remember the multitude of rifle programs designed to improve average accuracy?
"you can't get marksmanship awards with a flechette rifle" -gun jesus
frozen elk
anyone hear about the M15?
literally just a fucking automatic m14 with a bipod and pistol grip
atomic meteor
Tbh good thing they didn't go with flechettes anyway.
cursive solar
yeah
ebon walrus
Sounds like a thomson but big bollet
atomic meteor
Or multi round bs whatever
cursive solar
finnicky ammunition issue is the last thing a grunt wants
ebon walrus
The IAR is a cool gun tho
atomic meteor
Plus, can you imagine aiming right at a fucker and swearing the flechettes go all around him, but miss?
IAR cool gun
gaunt geyser
Why using flechettes when you can be more precise with a 22lr?
cursive solar
it devolves into a Q&A of "where'd my tax money go" at some point
ebon walrus
Its like the BAR but more modern so it has an i
maiden fern
22lr as a military caliber
gaunt geyser
Bruh
frozen elk
IAR is arguably just the marines adopting the idea of the RPK
it's the same goddamn idea
frozen elk
the BAR was terrible from the start
gaunt geyser
22rl is cheap and does not make a lot of noise.
maiden fern
the BAR was never good and people need to knows this more
ebon walrus
I have a soft spot for the BAR
atomic meteor
5.56, in-line recoil for good follow-ups, plus modern optics has tuned out to be the best solution anywhere.
gaunt geyser
Only good points of the 22lr
ebon walrus
Its a damn cool gun
cursive solar
the BAR did what john moses browning intended to do
ebon walrus
Not great at anything
cursive solar
which was experimental more than anything
atomic meteor
BAR was the best gun ever in WW1, bar none (pun not intended)
ebon walrus
But its sexy
atomic meteor
By WW2 it was kinda a meme
plain mountain
can we appreciate the M1915 winchester for a moment? clip-fed lever action rifle considered for US army service, competing with the krag-jorgensen rifle, and later bought in large quantities by the russian empire prior to the revolution during ww1 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZDrIs0a-ms
frozen elk
in comparison to the lewis gun as well as the idea of the lewis assault phase rifle which even in prototypes was just better in every way, including ergonomics
maiden fern
its too heavy for an lmg, not enough rounds for an mmg and too large to be a battle rifle. it's fucking stupid @ebon walrus
ebon walrus
Yeah yeah yeah
plain mountain
one of my favorite lever actions
cursive solar
@plain mountain nyet, mosin is fine.
ebon walrus
But its so damn good looking
frozen elk
1895 rifles are great, i love them
atomic meteor
Yes, yes we can appreciate a Winchester lever action in 7.62x54r. yes we can . . .@plain mountain
gaunt geyser
You're all talking about good designs, but the best design is a twin 12gauge, time has shown it 😉
cursive solar
kek
plain mountain
it looks SO COOL though like holy shit I want one just for cool factor alone
ebon walrus
And I mean the doctrine behind it is the idea the marines have with the IAR to an extent
If everyone has a bar you dont need an lmg
atomic meteor
God, a Russian Winchester is just so cool. It's gotta be the big daddy of all.lever actions, right? With a round like that.
plain mountain
a fucking clip-fed high caliber lever action feels like a steampunk thing but here we are
ebon walrus
De-densifying fire support
atomic meteor
BAR way too fucking huge for that, and doesn't share mags. IAR is lightweight and shares mags. Too different for it to work.
gaunt geyser
chambers 25mm into rifle
ebon walrus
yes
frozen elk
@ebon walrus the IAR's more akin to the RPK the soviets used, literally just a rifle that was heavier and was more suited to support, and could use magazines from their squadmates if needed
plain mountain
it's one of the larger lever actions ever made iirc @atomic meteor but I could be wrong
ebon walrus
Yes
frozen elk
can we appreciate this rifle first though
cursive solar
Czech gun best gun
maiden fern
i want to hunt rabbits with an elephant gun
real swift
perfect lmao
frozen elk
vz. 58 is honestly my favorite soviet rifle
atomic meteor
Oh hey wanna see something cool guys?
cursive solar
ZB.26 best LMG
frozen elk
@plain mountain welcome to the cult of czech excellence
gaunt geyser
Where is my bird hunting flak gun?
atomic meteor
cursive solar
NO
atomic meteor
^ check it
real swift
lmao i love this vid
plain mountain
LOL I know that vid
atomic meteor
YES
ebon walrus
The BAR only really worked because the US ran M1s
atomic meteor
YEEEES
cursive solar
NO dremel
ebon walrus
The garand is such a damn good gun
cursive solar
AHH
real swift
garand is bae man
plain mountain
garands are sweet shooters
chrome flower
can we appreciate this rifle first though
YES
frozen elk
@atomic meteor as an owner of an M1 carbine that video made my blood run cold
real swift
ngl if you get copped out of a garand ping its actually fucking painful
atomic meteor
As it should. As it should . . .
ebon walrus
And the BAR did provide a higher rate of fire
maiden fern
@atomic meteor actually that skorpion carbine modification looks pretty fucking dope
ebon walrus
But 30 round mag
real swift
bro the stinger was pog
atomic meteor
Do you think god John Moses Browning stays in heaven because he fears what we have created?
cursive solar
every time I see a sporterized and bubba'd arisaka I feel pain
ebon walrus
Stinger was the best lmg ever made
frozen elk
stinger best gun
real swift
made by a marine with random shit he found
cursive solar
not the stoner 63?
frozen elk
stoner 63 is another favorite of mine
real swift
maiden fern
son of browning inspecting his shit gun
atomic meteor
Stoner is best gun for 80's special forces uncles with Miami vice music in the background
cursive solar
marine corp:
"just give us the belt fed version, don't need anything else"
real swift
atomic meteor
Speaking of
real swift
love it
atomic meteor
Johnson rifles are pretty neat
maiden fern
@atomic meteor bro there's a documentary on youtube about the stoner gun in vietnam war
atomic meteor
Grade A alt history material
ebon walrus
Yeah the germans did the whole MG thing alot better than the americans
frozen elk
oh dude the johnson rifle was the inspiration i had for this one gun i designed for a mod for RWR
ebon walrus
Although slapping M2s on everything also kinda worked
cursive solar
they minmaxed MG more than they needed
atomic meteor
Well, they did kinda invet the concept of a universal MG
real swift
oh yeah thats true
gaunt geyser
What about gyrojets for alternative history?
plain mountain
looks like most lever actions are in .45-70 or some variant of a pistol cartridge so it may be that the 1895 winchester is one of the largest caliber lever actions ever made @atomic meteor
atomic meteor
Ehh. Kinda poopoo
cursive solar
gyrojet is wack
real swift
m2 is such a iconic thing man
frozen elk
imagine a BAR with a drum mag and vaguely federov inspired as well
atomic meteor
Niiiice @plain mountain
frozen elk
20 round mag you have to feed with stripper clips
gaunt geyser
Imagine having an ammunition that costs $100 per unit
ebon walrus
The thing that gets me with the BAR is that its a solid gun (i mean it was designed by browning)
plain mountain
gotta be happy with my gewehr for now though until I get monies to indulge in my gun collector habit
gaunt geyser
And not even precise
atomic meteor
Imagine being literally the pinnacle of technology in your niche after 100+ years in service in the largest conflicts known to man, through the age of vacvum tubes, transistors and microchips.
ebon walrus
Ive heard its pretty damn reliable
karmic ether
I am so happy we don't use Bullpub MGs in the Finnish deffence forces, I'm left handed and the cartridge casings will hit my face, 😔 NOT funny!
plain mountain
I find it cool that Mauser is still in business building bolt action rifles after all these years
gaunt geyser
Famas solves the problem
atomic meteor
Christ, is anyone here not a disciple of gun Jesus?
ebon walrus
I mean I wouldnt mind a redesigned m2 that wasnt a literal steel box
gaunt geyser
Or forward ejection bullpups
cursive solar
but muh maxim
ebon walrus
But yeah the M2 is quite a special weapon
gaunt geyser
@atomic meteor me
plain mountain
I discovered gun jesus a few months ago and I've never looked back
safe aspen
atomic meteor
M2 of course could use a modernization . . . but it just works too damn well for anyone to care.
karmic ether
Bullpup guns are bad, AK gun structures are the best like RK 62 or RK 90 💙
ebon walrus
Gun jesus is the way to go
plain mountain
ah yes, the modern iron throne
cursive solar
that's a pretty huge ass
atomic meteor
@gaunt geyser fix yourself 
gaunt geyser
No.
atomic meteor
cursive solar
no bullpups allowed
ebon walrus
I personally dont really like the look of the AK that much
real swift
you can change the main rifle, you can change the LMG, ma deuce is timeless.
gaunt geyser
I shall be French and watch French channels
plain mountain
also the german military still uses a modern version of the MG-42, if it ain't broke don't fix it
real swift
^
gaunt geyser
Bullpup man good
cursive solar
MG-3 works
ebon walrus
MG-5 tho
plain mountain
MG-3 go brrrrr
gaunt geyser
Imagine having a longer weapon in urban warfare
atomic meteor
@gaunt geyser you do know that Gun Jesus is literally the biggest Francophile on YouTube, right?
gaunt geyser
Yeah
frozen elk
tbh my hierarchy of top weapons are like
gaunt geyser
But eh, he is too calm for me
atomic meteor
He sticks up for the French more than anyone I know, including the French tbh
gaunt geyser
And too apolitic
real swift
what about those new rifles the US is lookin at doe
karmic ether
A good chair
atomic meteor
^ that's how you know he's good
cursive solar
NO, you can't just spray the fulda gap and blunt our mechanized push!1!!
"haha, MG-3 go brr"
frozen elk
AR15 platform styled rifles > vz. 58 > RK62 / RK95 > kalashnikov rifles
gaunt geyser
FAL>>>all
atomic meteor
Anyone see CZ's BRENs recently? To Eyre pretty nice.
frozen elk
AR-18 > all
atomic meteor
@frozen elk you're ok
gaunt geyser
FAL looks dope and hits hard, what more do you want?
ebon walrus
I like the FAL
maiden fern
@gaunt geyser less weight
frozen elk
i honestly think galils and RKs are the best kalashnikov variants
cursive solar
the rifle grenade feature on the FAL is very nice
plain mountain
I have a Vz. 98
cursive solar
sadly rifle grenades are no longer meta for some reason
frozen elk
rifle grenades are chad
gaunt geyser
@atomic meteor lemme use a black powder revolver real quick
cursive solar
Poomp
boom
maiden fern
@cursive solar just use an underbarrel nade launcher
ebon walrus
Bro gotta get the automatic grenade launcher
maiden fern
underbarrel lets you shoot and explode people
cursive solar
but muh less moving parts
gaunt geyser
Bomb minigun
karmic ether
@frozen elk thats not true, but because they builded on the same AK structures they look similar for the naked eye,
atomic meteor
Yeah lemme just carry a gun that checks list
I won't hit as often with,
Weighs more,
And I can't carry as much ammo for,
Compared to any other modern rifle.
ebon walrus
I think infantry squads should all get access to at least one gau 8
maiden fern
not to mention rifle grenades can just explode if you load the wrong ammo
gaunt geyser
Large American ammo man bad
plain mountain
remember when I literally shot a wet blanket to prove someone false when they were trying to "out-science" me
ebon walrus
Yes
atomic meteor
That was pretty funny
frozen elk
i don't think i was around for that enlighten me
cursive solar
tell us that range story
maiden fern
@plain mountain wait what was the argument
atomic meteor
A dude was like "wet blankets can stop bullets"
maiden fern
bruh
gaunt geyser
What the heck
maiden fern
lets equip our army with wet blankets
atomic meteor
Something about density or something, he thought the blanket would like. Catch the bullet or something
maiden fern
maybe some really weak cartridges
ebon walrus
Bullets tend to not lose
cursive solar
.22lr
plain mountain
someone was trying to use their "aeroscience" degree background and trying to explain that soldiers in ww1 used wet blankets to stop bullets and was 100% sure of it and trying to egg me on because I disagree, so I literally took my 100 year old rifle and dated ammunition, took a wet blanket, hung it, and shot it. surprise surprise, it pierced right though
maiden fern
22lr would just pierce
atomic meteor
Anclet and not-smoothebrains on here were like "that's dumb"
ebon walrus
In most situations expect the bullet to win
atomic meteor
Yeah @plain mountain kinda went full fucking Chad mode on him
cursive solar
no ww1 soldier would risk having much in the way of getting hit
or getting hit in the first place
atomic meteor
Pretty sure he made the guys balls shrink 3 sizes that day.
ebon walrus
The concept behind it isnt stupid, just very misguided
maiden fern
wait he thought a full sized rifle cartridge wouldnt go through?!?!?!?
plain mountain
yes
atomic meteor
yes
maiden fern
WHAT
gaunt geyser
Big bren
atomic meteor
In engineering
cursive solar
nah, something designed to go over 2000 meters has no way of stopping from a blanket
karmic ether
Hell
atomic meteor
Therefore
plain mountain
people trying to argue firearms stuff when they have no actual experience with firearms
atomic meteor
He's always right
frozen elk
lmao i have an M1 carbine, i should disprove the korean war shit
gaunt geyser
That's how we get gyrojets people
cursive solar
the degree is supposed to give you a good estimate, not predict the future
maiden fern
that isnt even engineering, it's literally simple ballistics
atomic meteor
Tell that to engineers @cursive solar
maiden fern
you can calculate that shit with high school physics
ebon walrus
Not really
atomic meteor
Or, you don't calculate it at all
plain mountain
so here's the thing he was trying to argue that it would work by telling us that a large net suspended in the air catches a plane perfectly fine. that was literally the thing he used to argue that the bullet and wet towel would work
atomic meteor
And use common fucking sense
ebon walrus
A blanket isnt simple physics
cursive solar
nah, my dad still slams people trying to do shit in theory instead of remembering basic thermodynamics
he works in stress testing
atomic meteor
Like
maiden fern
@ebon walrus the kinetic energy of the moving bullet is
ebon walrus
Yes but the collision isnt
atomic meteor
Modern Kevlar still won't stop a full size rifle cartridge at less than 100 meters.
How the fuck is a wet blanket going to do it?
cursive solar
kevlar is rather old
atomic meteor
Also, how else you know he was full of shit:
ebon walrus
Its hard enough to calculate an elastic collision
plain mountain
it'll crush your ribs even if it does stop it
cursive solar
kevlar is supposed to stop you from dying and that's it
frozen elk
all that energy doesn't just dissipate lmao
maiden fern
@ebon walrus you literally just have to know the breaking point of the blanket
atomic meteor
Zero mention of the actual properties of the blanket. What it's made of, thickness, density, wetness, angle.
cursive solar
Muh fudds
cursive solar
even water needs 2 meters
plain mountain
an 8mm mauser cartridge wouldn't stop for a blanket unless it was like 3m thick
atomic meteor
Right?
cursive solar
yeah.
ebon walrus
Let alone calculate the hardness + toughness of a wet blanket to figure out whether the initial collision would penetrate or push back the blanket
gaunt geyser
Did he told you it could stop AT rockets?
plain mountain
so here's the thing: wet blankets were used in ww1 trenches. they were used to combat gas from sinking down into dugouts and tunnels
karmic ether
On the other discord guys talk about dinosaur skin would stop bullets 
maiden fern
its still not university level let me tell you
cursive solar
dinosaurs will have a forced evolutionary factor of needing to be smaller once americans figure out how to time travel
plain mountain
some big brain probably heard of some old vet talking about wet blankets in trenches and figured "oh that must've been to stop bullets" and that's where the rumor circulated from
ebon walrus
But im sure he had some degree of a valid idea on why it would work
karmic ether
@cursive solar humans will hunt dinosaurus to extention again In years if not months! 💙
gaunt geyser
Maybe because of the experiment that demonstrates the existence of electrons around atoms
cursive solar
don't worry, someone will export them to the aztecs to make america not exist
gaunt geyser
With the gold sheet
ebon walrus
If anything putting up a blanket would give you a place to stay hidden
cursive solar
why would you use concealment instead of cover
ebon walrus
Which is important when the enemy wants to shoot ur head off
gaunt geyser
Disease will take care of the Aztecs
cursive solar
where heavy guns are roaring every day
gaunt geyser
Cover is cover
maiden fern
so you have a trench and you decide to use whet blanket to conceil
cursive solar
doen't stop a 15cm howitzer
ebon walrus
I havent lived in a trench for 3 years so idk why you would want one but im sure there are reasons
maiden fern
put a blanket
karmic ether
Welcome to Jurassic Wolrd,
@cursive solar
Oh no wait I got an Intel that humans have a butt load of firearms and guns and military
So Welcome to normal World, 😔
plain mountain
screech
ebon walrus
Rip
gaunt geyser
Better have a blanket than being naked on the no man's land
ebon walrus
Lol
frozen elk
cursive solar
yes but where's your standard issue entrenching tool
ebon walrus
Was putting blankets over barbed wire a thing in ww2?
atomic meteor
The gas thing makes total sense. Early makeshift masks were just water (or piss) soaked cloths tied over the mouth.
gaunt geyser
Well, moving is not the best idea while being alone in the no man's land
ebon walrus
That could be where it came from
atomic meteor
You'd hang it over doorways though, you wouldnt just hang it everywhere.
cursive solar
british royal engineer corps did that a lot
plain mountain
yeah that's what I meant, over dugout entrances
cursive solar
noman's land is cock and ball torture
ebon walrus
I mean that could stop slower shrapnel
gaunt geyser
But with Artillery shells and bullets @cursive solar
ebon walrus
Shrapnel doesnt have fantastic ballistics properties
karmic ether
@cursive solar with mud
cursive solar
imagine dying for an idea that just might work
gaunt geyser
Welcome to the world of science
ebon walrus
Many have
plain mountain
@atomic meteor I found the screenshots of the convo
plain mountain
I ranted to my bf about it while it was happening so I took screens of the convo to show him
gaunt geyser
I remember hearing about a German jumping off hills to test gliders
ebon walrus
Oh yeah
plain mountain
wut
cursive solar
my brain operates at peacetime capacity
plain mountain
lol
atomic meteor
So, full retard level?
cursive solar
more or less
atomic meteor
Understandable
plain mountain
obviously I ranted about it to my battlefield, I always have the game on hand to yell at
atomic meteor
Post the convo dude!
cursive solar
you must be one of those PTFO types
karmic ether
So we talk about military engineers or researchers who died/hurt while testing?
plain mountain
I wonder if I should censor the name or not 
frozen elk
you might wanna lmao
cursive solar
eh, I could care less, people being slightly less than common sense
but do so for posterity
karmic ether
Censor it? Why?
cursive solar
idk, it's rather embarrasing
plain mountain
cause it's someone here and people gonna ping em cause people are children
cursive solar
yes
karmic ether
@plain mountain speak for your self, 💙
plain mountain
frozen elk
cursive solar
was ist das?
plain mountain
mfw someone says shooting a wet blanket won't penetrate it
ok time to edit convo pics then I guess
cursive solar
maybe at 3000 yards
karmic ether
Whats that in meters?
cursive solar
some football fields
frozen elk
football fields are different for europeans too
cursive solar
or olympic swimming pools
plain mountain
I measure by roman footsoldiers per square mile
karmic ether
Walmart = Ve Ruokakauppaan?
cursive solar
is it the finnish equivalent for the 'man I look slighly poor' store?
cloud latch
We fixed the nuke 😄
Now it's just about fixing it...
We fixed the glitch, but broke the nuke. There we go.
gaunt geyser
Watch out, the nuke might disappear after seeing Raid tags x)
cursive solar
chad moment
cursive solar
debunking fuddlore one at a time
karmic ether
So whats the conclusion :
Don't believe everything What you see,
Respect other privacy and don't go to sauna with wet blankets,
💙
plain mountain
pfft
karmic ether
Excellent!
chrome flower
Well ww1 bullets were a bit weaker then today but still
maiden fern
bruh
have you seen a full sized rifle cartridge and compared it to the pussy intermediate ammo we use today
plain mountain
8mm Mauser is way stronger than the standard 5.56 most standard us military rifles use. anything larger is used for marksmen/sharpshooting
cinder basin
5.56 is controllable in rapid fire. 308 thicc boi is hard to control. today they are considering using the Creedmoor as the main infantry bullet since it hits hard and (apparently) it is way more controllable then the 308.
maiden fern
.308 isnt just hard to control
plain mountain
yeah, more controllable, easier to carry, supply, and manufacture, and has just about the same lethality as larger cartridges
lean turret
Well, ppl realized filling enemy with holes is better than one 👀
maiden fern
you would shoot the sky if you shot a .308 assault rifle
fuck then it becomes a battle rifle
something that's outdated
i still dont get why there's a debate about "bigger bullet is better"
same people that say the 45acp is intrinsically better than the 9mm because it's slightly bigger
cursive solar
bigger bullet is not better, only goes farther
plain mountain
most engagement distances aren't over huge areas though, nowadays
people are stuck in old doctrine and thinking
cursive solar
yeah we aren't fighting the boers
plain mountain
you can get huge distance with a .30 cal, for example, but in a tight urban environment (and that's where a lot of fighting happens), you're not going to have the best capacity or recoil control for CQC and suppression
will it tear someone to shreds on contact? absolutely, but a 5.56 round will inflict damage just as well and is lighter on weight and logistics
maiden fern
not to mention it's always better to have more chances to hit something than having smaller magazines
plain mountain
exactly
cursive solar
chances are that if you're engaging over 300 yards, you won't hit if they're returning fire
plain mountain
if you're engaging at 300 yards, if you do hit with a 5.56, it's still going to do damage
cursive solar
yeah it works good enough
maiden fern
army just expected soldiers to be snipers shooting accurately all the time. kind of stupid to base your doctrine on range tests only but hey thats how they did it
cursive solar
we all know we're just going to use a M72 LAW and blow the mud hut up
plain mountain
armies used to train soldiers to always just shoot to kill, but after ww2 I think they saw the value in suppression tactics, with the advent of more auto and semi auto rifles and other weapons
of course soldiers still shoot to kill but keeping your enemy suppressed is a surefire way to get them to stay low rather than wait to shoot them if they run out
@cursive solar yeah air superiority really changed the game as well
once you have the skies to yourself it becomes really hard to lose any open engagement
cursive solar
using the world's largest intelligence network and using a well-equipped airforce, works quite a lot
but the grunt will have artillery
because muntions are expensive
gaunt geyser
Even shoot to kill is not the most efficient now
Because an injuried soldier will have to be sent in the backline
lean turret
Depends whom you shoot 
cursive solar
why shoot a soldier when you can airstrike a general
lean turret
But what if general is retarded 
high rain
What's that retarded f'ing thing people do where they spam crouch when they get shot
maiden fern
its called not standing still like targets?
maiden fern
oh then they're trying to evade bullets but they're doing it wrong
only works on semi autos anyways
high rain
What do you mean "works on"? What is this thing?
maiden fern
if you crouch the millisecond before they shoot their aim gets thrown off and they miss
high rain
That's so dumb
maiden fern
since aiming works weird
you can just aim lower and you wont miss
just that people always aim too high
high rain
Aim lower? What do you mean? As in, aim at the ground beneath them?
maiden fern
no i mean put your cursor where you wont shoot over if they decide to crouch
lots of people just aim past people or aim on their head
high rain
Doesn't the cursor lock on to them automatically?
maiden fern
no?
high rain
Weird, I must have hacks. My cursor always locks on to people
maiden fern
huh
viscid inlet
if you aim at someone, it'll change elevation to their torso
which is why you cant shoot people in trenches unless you aim past them and hit their head
maiden fern
and thats only if you get lucky with elevation
high rain
I thought you could hit people behind cover, but that each shot has a chance of missing
maiden fern
generally just dont even waste ammo shooting at people in trenches unless you have clear view
yes thats a thing too
high rain
So why not shoot them and wait until you get lucky with a hit?
maiden fern
thats the reason why you can miss you rifle shot when the guy is clearly hit. i fucking hate that when it happens
because you dont have unlimited ammo
viscid inlet
imagine shooting a guy with a sniper 3 times but the first 2 miss cause hes in cover
maiden fern
and thats not really effective since they can get healed
imo cover mechanic shouldnt even affect the rifle and sniper
carbine is fine because it shoots faster
viscid inlet
agree
high rain
What about shooting people who are downed and nearby? I can never fucking hit a downed soldier who's between ~0-20 meters. I aim right at them and the bullet just flies right by.
Then they always laugh at me on voice "Hahaha, you can't shoot a wounded soldier who's unmoving"
maiden fern
oh yeah thats because the prone hitbox is stupidly small
high rain
I always respond, "Yeah, you fucking try it, hotshot, it's fucking buggy"
high rain
So then why is it that I have no problem hitting downed soldiers FAR away, only NEARBY
maiden fern
it's like an unspoken rule that your credibility as a shooter is demonstrated by you being able to insta kill downed players lol
viscid inlet
dont stand right next to them if you're gonna shoot them
take a step back and you'll be able to hit them
high rain
Even if they're 10 meters away, I can't reliably hit them
maiden fern
you just gotta know the sweetspot
high rain
Well, I must have missed that part of the training camp
and after 300 hours of time played, still haven't figured it out
maiden fern
i do it all the time while running because 1. it makes me look like a chad to run and kill with a rifle without even missing a beat and 2. it wastes less time
high rain
well, lookatchyu
maiden fern
like all games foxhole combat has a lot to do with muscle memory and experience
dont be angry if you cant do everything on the first try
high rain
300 hours is well past a first try
maiden fern
i have 270 hours in cs:go and i still cant shoot things correctly
karmic ether
"no need for rear sights when you indiscriminately fire in the general direction"-Captain Saris
limber minnow
@karmic ether https://youtu.be/hlLPIvEoykY
karmic ether
@limber minnow The Warden battle RAM has confirmed! 🤣
That was SO random I like it,
What happend I become a loved user here or Idk😅
high rain
Anyone else frequently encounter a glitch where you finish assembling an item but it doesn't appear in your inventory?
near jewel
That was SO random I like it,
What happend I become a loved user here or Idk😅
Nah. Abandon your hopes.
karmic ether
@near jewel Thank you 💙 very much 💙
near jewel
Np
karmic ether
still plaza
karmic ether
grizzled turret
still plaza
blue man bad
willow fjord
charred atlas
near jewel
I like how You organize socks, Den.
white wedge
pfff my clan currently has more allies than members
lean turret
@high rain Common since... I dunno 
In recent versions its best to wait till item appears before clicking to assemble next one if its long timer.
north aspen
Anyone else frequently encounter a glitch where you finish assembling an item but it doesn't appear in your inventory?
@high rain Had that happen to me once
Turns out it was just lag, really really bad lag, at least for me
frozen cedar
still plaza
Internet Historian saves the day for me
could wait for devbranch for 2 more days if he published another video
grim marsh
karmic ether
https://youtu.be/z56pR7A715c
I found a good game on stream sadly Its Isn't out yet😔
still plaza
woven scarab
@karmic ether Not a game for me
karmic ether
I gues I get muted again Yes?
gaunt geyser
@still plaza single use jump pad
thorn sonnet
gray stump
still plaza
no.
primal blaze
they slowed da caty
slate barn
reef root
dwm
primal blaze
reef root
still crow
mellow reef
lime junco
slate barn
still crow
reef root
tender lion
reef root
slate barn
tender lion
reef root
still crow
reef root
still crow
slate barn
Damn. We tried.
reef root
still crow
still crow
primal blaze
still crow
worn nest
cosmic cliff
can we have an f for #foxhole-discussion
lime junco
still crow
tender lion
slate barn
lime junco
F
still crow
DEVBRANCH
tender lion
still crow
DEVBRANCH
reef root
still crow
steep seal
lime junco
tender lion
cosmic cliff
If you restart discord, your 10min resrarts
@edgy siren doesn't
lime junco
lime junco
placid umbra
So this is what WW3 looks like.
next sky
still crow
static jay
lime junco
edgy siren
static jay
lime junco
pure ember
tender thicket
cosmic cliff
placid umbra
static jay
restive prairie
still crow
cosmic cliff
lime junco
primal blaze
reef root
tacit flare
quiet bloom
lime junco
tropic bough
reef root
cosmic cliff
astral bane
what the fuck is happening
tacit flare
static jay
lime junco
stuck matrix
cosmic cliff
restive prairie
lime junco
tropic bough
steep seal
primal blaze
next sky
Vibing cat
worn nest
tender lion
quiet bloom