general-discussion

[charred vigil]

where fronts would be an eternal stalemate cause gun nests were spammed and there was never enough rpgs

[weary osprey]

Eternal stalemates would be cool

It would promote clan play though, and the devs like to do the opposite

[rare bluff]

Im so happy ive been hoping the dev would add different vehicles and i ask on on stream if they would.

[onyx sorrel]

@karmic ether that's where your wrong, if enough wardens fart in a concrete bunker colonials die builder faction farts is the new meta

just need devs to implement warden farts as our faction special ability an we good

on a more serious note, I don't really think wardens are going to be the "builder faction" and defense isn't necessarily less fun or dumb. sometimes defending is the right thing to do it depends on the situation, and attacking the wrong targets and taking a lot of casualties can destroy morale as much as being attacked can, even can cause you to lose a war

stuff like that is too complex to be explained in a few lines on discord anyways

overall though, I agree, attacking is necessary to win and a good offense is critical to victory, if a faction was based entirely around defense that would be an issue but I don't think that is the case in the lore nor will it be mechanically

[edgy siren]

Speculation time

We could make baseball cards out of these

Health/Armor: Medium Health. No armor
Speed: Fast
Crew: 3
Inventory Size: 4
Special: RPG

Health/Armor: Low Health. No armor
Speed: Fast
Crew: 2
Inventory Size: 9
Special: Radio

Health/Armor: Low Health. No armor
Speed: Fast
Crew: 4
Inventory Size: 6
Special: Open Top/ Crew

Health/Armor: Medium Health. Armored
Speed: Fast
Crew: 2
Inventory Size: 6
Special: Armor/Radio

No idea, but it's fun to speculate

I am curious as to why 2 of the 4 have radios

Does the passenger help with radio management?

Or does it remain the same?

[snow mist]

that last one has a hatch in the roof, I suspect binoculars will be usable from there

[edgy siren]

Oh, true

Drive around, searching

Very helpful when approaching enemy buildings to spy on

[snow mist]

I'm betting that four passenger jeep and rocket jeep are going to become the logi raider vehicle of choice

[dusky verge]

also turret bike

[edgy siren]

Turret bike is interesting

I'm curious if the "cost" for these different configurations will increase resources or remove a certain feature

[haughty ridge]

Isn't there a luv with an mg on the back?

[edgy siren]

Like the removal of the radios for the RPG

Only for the Warden

Factions will have some similarities for Vehicles, but half will likely be faction specific

While Colonial has RPG UV
The Wardens has now a LMG UV

Similar but different

I want a LMG UV, so I'll be stealing a few

[dusky verge]

RPG LUV seems the most broken to me, the ballista doesn't bother me

[snow mist]

RPG LUV is going to be hell

[edgy siren]

The cost of the vehicle and ammunition will likely be increased

[dusky verge]

I can already see the squads of hit and run RPG LUV's destroying all warden armor

[snow mist]

I can already see the swarm...

[dusky verge]

yep

[edgy siren]

Armor is affected differently now

Not to defend it, but it's something to consider

[snow mist]

armour looked like a scene out of fury

[dusky verge]

hardly matters if armor is a little tougher if you have 5 or so RPG LUV's

1 or 2 rockets deflecting won't make a difference

[edgy siren]

Well, I'm more afraid of the RPG UV hitting logi

[snow mist]

what I'm really wondering is if we will see new infantry weapons

[dusky verge]

thats probably the thing it will affect the hardest

[haughty ridge]

yeah

[edgy siren]

Not this update @snow mist

[dusky verge]

I bet you the armored warden logi truck can't even take a rocket without disabling

[edgy siren]

Markfoot said maybe later

I bet it will

[dusky verge]

its probably 1 if not 2

I could see 2

[snow mist]

warden half-track truck wants to know your location

[edgy siren]

I'm curious as to the AC configurations

One of them looked buff

[snow mist]

I saw a tracked ver

[edgy siren]

Maybe an Off road variant

[haughty ridge]

What does everyone think that the warden specific vehicle will be?

[dusky verge]

theres been a few thoughts: Tank hunter, destroyer ship, or just a larger tank

at least from what i've seen

[edgy siren]

If Colonials are building Destroyers...the opposite... Mobile FOB?

[haughty ridge]

i hope its not a cOoL bIg TaNk

[dusky verge]

most likely something land based if I had to guess

[haughty ridge]

a mobile fob would be neat

but a bit op if done wrong

[dusky verge]

Don't we already have a water fob

[edgy siren]

Like, it wouldn't move as you respawn, you need to set it up, and build a few things to establish it before it is a "Building"

But you can tear it down, and pack it up to move up or back

[dusky verge]

I just want defenses to not be paper, they definitely need to buff them in response to the ballista lmao

they are already so weak rn

[edgy siren]

During Devbranch, give the tools a test

Your feedback is important

[snow mist]

Honestly the idea of a wall on wheels from the devstream seems slike something the wardens would get

[haughty ridge]

wall on wheels

[edgy siren]

Wall on wheels

[haughty ridge]

how would that work?

[snow mist]

I have no idea, they joked about it

[haughty ridge]

new warden only vehicle

[edgy siren]

[snow mist]

perfect

Now put a mobile FOB behind it

mobile fortress

[edgy siren]

BT variants?

Seems like the tanks will not be touched if they stick to the name thing

But

In this it talks of the L series. The Lance. It eludes to more variants

Im sure the Light Tanks will be getting a variable configurations

[paper timber]

250mm??

They put a fucking Storm Cannon in a tank

[dusky verge]

yea its absurdly large

[edgy siren]

But the BTs are quite unique

[haughty ridge]

Warden specific vehicle, mobile fob attached to a wall on wheels

[edgy siren]

Something something 250mm only shooting 70mm away

[snow mist]

By BTs you mean the Russian tank, or is it an acronym for something?

[edgy siren]

Battle tanks

[dusky verge]

250mm just means its harder to make shells too

[edgy siren]

Flood
Lance

[snow mist]

Oh right, forgive me, I still forget tunnels are not a thing

[paper timber]

The Warden unique vehicle better be good to top Mr. Mobile Storm Cannon over here

[ebon walrus]

i really doubt this thing is gonna be that good

yall are hailing it as "the bringer of doom"

[haughty ridge]

yeah

[ebon walrus]

way over the top

[dusky verge]

its not gonna be as good as the RPG LUV

[ebon walrus]

just use an FA

[edgy siren]

It's probably slower and fuel sucking worse than the BT

[ebon walrus]

im sure 1 FA firing AP rounds could beat this thing

its not a game changer

[paper timber]

1 FA firing AP rounds could beat anything though

even if it's holding off a BT

[dusky verge]

Like I said, your attention should be on the RPG LUV

[edgy siren]

I don't know...

[ebon walrus]

the RPG LUV prob wont be fantastic either

[north aspen]

Wait, we're arguing here now

[ebon walrus]

it sounds cool on paper

[dusky verge]

it will in it's current state

[ebon walrus]

but once one guy shoots at you with a rifle

[snow mist]

The RPG LUV at the end of the day is a Jeep with a rocket launcher on tip

[ebon walrus]

might as well just use the good old jump out of the jeep with RPGs

[snow mist]

it'll have all the weaknesses of one

[paper timber]

RPG LUV will probably be partisan hell

[dusky verge]

^^^^^^^

there will be no rifles to fire at it

[paper timber]

there's a difference between needing to get out of an LUV, firing, then getting back in and not dying

[edgy siren]

Everyone's gangster until LAPC rolls up with smoke deployment everywhere

[paper timber]

and firing on the move

[ebon walrus]

LAPC smoke time

[north aspen]

I can probably take out an RPG LUV if I have a pistol and a tree

[ebon walrus]

yeah they need to change the RPG firing system

its 100% accurate rn

[north aspen]

They will run out of RPG shells before they can kill me

[swift grail]

why arent u guys in foxhole discussion smh

[paper timber]

Then they'll scoot away at worst

[karmic ether]

smh my head

[north aspen]

And I don't think anyone has run me over while I was near a tree yet

[snow mist]

risk taker perk

[ebon walrus]

but yeah im looking forward to asymmetry personally

i get the problems it brings

[swift grail]

inb4 chaff deployer acually makes apc and passengers invisible to enemy radar

[real swift]

smh yall actin like the wardens aint gettin a super heavy tank

[ebon walrus]

but I love not smacking my head against the same wall with the same hammer

[north aspen]

Simple solution to LUVs:
Have a tree
Unless it has an MG on it
It is unlikely to get you

[edgy siren]

[dusky verge]

watch warden "super-heavy" tank get disabled with one 250mm round

[paper timber]

seriously, why 250mm?

I was expecting a 150mm round but not near a Storm Cannon

[ebon walrus]

because big booms are fun

[dusky verge]

big booms are fun

[paper timber]

big booms are fun

[ebon walrus]

diameter has nothing to do with explosive filler tho

[paper timber]

but give them to both sides

[edgy siren]

Speculation is fun
For best, and worse

[ebon walrus]

so you cant just compare it to an SC

[dusky verge]

we haven't seen warden vehicle yet

[snow mist]

My guess is with the new armour system HE won't hurt armour too much

[dusky verge]

can't make the call we don't have a big boom

[edgy siren]

At the end of the day, we have no idea until Devbranch

[snow mist]

I still want sabres

[paper timber]

I just don't want asymmetry

[edgy siren]

Same

Oh, I do

[paper timber]

because even if it's the greatest way to balance the game, alts will abuse it

[edgy siren]

Hopefully they will address alts

[paper timber]

And that's really the only way to play with the SPG if you really want to

[dusky verge]

where do we play devbranch anyway

[edgy siren]

They will probably tackle alts hard closer to 1.0

[ebon walrus]

i have my doubts that the amount of alts will get bigger

[north aspen]

Go to the top right corner of your screen
I think you should be able to change shards there
But it isn't open yet I think

[dusky verge]

thanks ^

[north aspen]

There won't be more alts

[ebon walrus]

you have to switch to devbranch in steam

[haughty ridge]

it says it failed to download my profile

[ebon walrus]

you have to download it

[edgy siren]

Wait

Devstream up?

[ebon walrus]

you cant use devbranch yet lmao

[north aspen]

There will be the same amount of alts that will have a different way of griefing

[edgy siren]

Devbranch I mean

Yes

[haughty ridge]

aw crap

[ebon walrus]

also this tank isnt much in the way of an SPG

[edgy siren]

August

[ebon walrus]

mark said it has like no range

[edgy siren]

Some time August

[haughty ridge]

what is the internal shard about?

[snow mist]

AT mines are going to be hell for tracked vehicles

[misty gate]

really really like the idea that colonial vehicles are just going to be objectively superior in every way

as a tankist thats just going to be fun

[real swift]

yall havent seen the warden vehicles yet tho, not all lmao

Calm down before y’all start screamin bias

[misty gate]

they're literally just said that 'Collie BT is objectively superior to the Warden one'

[real swift]

wait till we see more ynno?

[misty gate]

Collies have angled armour, no exposed tracks, ect

[real swift]

You mean the armor

Thats why theres devbranch

[misty gate]

tankery was fun as fuck and now its just going to be being beaten up by superior colonial armour, great.

[real swift]

They can modify it so its not like its set in stone

calm down man, haven’t even seen it ingame yet

[ebon walrus]

I dont think thats how it works dude

i really doubt the hitboxes arent rectangular

the armor isnt modeled like warthunder

and the collie BT doesnt have angled armor?

[real swift]

Its not good angles anyways lmao

[edgy siren]

It's okay to be upset

[real swift]

like its really shitty angles

[edgy siren]

But reasonably, there's not much to be upset about

[misty gate]

im just fed up with life getting harder and harder for warden players

nobody actually gets online lately because we keep losing wars

[edgy siren]

[misty gate]

no thanks to the fact we cant organise an offensive to save our lives

[ebon walrus]

no, its because most of the clans were bored from what ive seen

[real swift]

How do you think it felt to be collie and loose 5 wars in a row lmao

[misty gate]

defensive is objectively a bad thing to be on, honestly

[edgy siren]

We keep losing... Wars?

[ebon walrus]

the devs even told us to take a break haha

[edgy siren]

You have 6 wins ahead son

[misty gate]

wardens being the 'defensive faction' is a bad thing lmao

this is why we lose wars

[edgy siren]

[real swift]

Wardens have won more wars tf u on about?

[ebon walrus]

again I HIGHLY doubt thats how it is gonna play out

[misty gate]

basic strategic theory dictates that being on the 'defensive' means you forfeit all agency over combat

[ebon walrus]

the war is won by foot soldiers in foxhole

[edgy siren]

Your logic makes no sense. In a box, it probably would, but there are more factors than offensive defensive

[ebon walrus]

1 tank that is more "defensively" orientated than the other isnt going to make wardens 100% defence

[real swift]

Yeah a super heavily armored tank pushing up is going to be fucking terrifying to deal with

[ebon walrus]

i feel like there were a lot of false conclusions drawn

[real swift]

^

[misty gate]

then like if there where false conclusions maybe things should have been stated more clearly? at least thats how i feel.

[swift grail]

I think... winning wars is more than just acting in "defensive" or "offensive" manners.......

[ebon walrus]

I agree with that

[edgy siren]

Seige will take so much
Time to drive
Time to build
Cost in ammo
Time in cost of ammo
Cost in fuel

[misty gate]

ive seen loads of people getting mad about this in private channels and i just wish this stuff was more clear to avoid this

[ebon walrus]

the devs Q&A after was super unclear

[real swift]

Ngl after the dev stream managed to hop in a BT full of randoms

Was fun as hell

[plain mountain]

imagine thinking an update is going to ruin foxhole when we only have 1/4 of the information they have in store for us and also haven't live tested it yet
I'll save my reservations for the devbranch when it comes around, then I'll see how it effects regular gameplay

[misty gate]

probably a fair take

[ebon walrus]

but I really dont think this is gonna be as gamebreaking as people are concluding

[real swift]

Killed 2 warden BTs and 3 Warden LTs.

Just be hype with me cmon man

[misty gate]

theres loads im hype about

[real swift]

say it with me now, vehicle modifications

[misty gate]

the modular vehicles are something ive been asking for for years. that shit is sick.

[real swift]

And the fuckin drifting man?

[misty gate]

the suspension system? yea that shit is amazing.

[real swift]

You see them sick drifts?

[ebon walrus]

this siege tank is cool, but if we get a tank destroyer then we are the real winners lel

[real swift]

fuck asymmetry ill drift around a BT with my damn armored car atr

[edgy siren]

I'm telling you I'm kind of curious about the light tank variants

[real swift]

Tank variants will be very cool to see

[misty gate]

I really want wars to be less decided from the start.

[weary osprey]

I’m excited for it all, and can’t wait to see how it plays out

[misty gate]

It feels like the moment we lose the middle regions the wars just collapse. it's annoying.

[real swift]

Im excited for the new tech tree

[edgy siren]

Amphibious
Tow cannons
Radioed

[weary osprey]

I hope armored play might get better and more easily accessible

[real swift]

cool, you lost a war, thats based

[misty gate]

also partisans are way too overpowered considering the small playerbase to deal with them

if we had a larger playerbase, we could counter partisans better.

[real swift]

But now there is anti tank rifle armored cars!

[edgy siren]

Wardens still have 6 wins ahead

How do you think the Colonials felt

[real swift]

I will do warden lmao

You think im joking?

I actually like being on the defense

[edgy siren]

I'll be happy to play and have fun

[misty gate]

colonials be like "we win every war but thats ok because you won a few more then us ages ago"

[real swift]

its fun seeing people run at your trench line while you mg them down

[edgy siren]

Imagine only playing to win

Cringe

[real swift]

Wardens be like "we win every war but thats ok because you won a few more then us ages ago"

[weary osprey]

Lmao collies are usually on a loosing streak

[misty gate]

@edgy siren winning is objectively fun though

[weary osprey]

I can’t wait for a good opponent

[real swift]

not really

Winning gives me nothing when i see the you win thing

[misty gate]

I agree with community, its not competitive if the war is won as soon as the middle regions are won.

@real swift Winning an individual battle is a high you cannot feel anywhere else man

[real swift]

The most fun i have is on the battles

Yeah exactly

[weary osprey]

Yeah

[misty gate]

Driving the last colonials from a city? That shit is godly.

[real swift]

Fuck that war victory

[weary osprey]

The small stuff

[edgy siren]

I have the most fun is with the community either pushing a front or trying to allocate resources to somewhere needed

[weary osprey]

Town sieges, I love it

[real swift]

^

[misty gate]

but if every day is 'we lost a town' or 'colonials knocked out a region again...' its just tiring.

[real swift]

I especially love the sieges of large towns

[weary osprey]

I played for hours in Victa when it was still a town in Tempest

[real swift]

Lmao comrade that happened to collies too man

[misty gate]

and partisans being able to shut down entire regions is infuriating.

[real swift]

its alright, i learned to stop caring

Just have fun in the battle

[misty gate]

i hope the tankette will allow more QRF against partisans

[plain mountain]

oh god I forgot to close my tabs earlier

[weary osprey]

I held out with a friend when we were passing by trying to find a front, but decided to help a small defense force

[edgy siren]

Edited. VC to text not the most reliable

[misty gate]

@plain mountain huge mood i have so many tabs open rn

[weary osprey]

It was great building defenses desperately

[plain mountain]

chrome go nom nom on ram

[swift grail]

rip ram @plain mountain

[weary osprey]

Lol

[real swift]

Fuckin tommy i had amazing fun in a long ass trench defense

[weary osprey]

I’ve never had a good one since early trench update

[real swift]

We were holding the enterance to a city, me and a few pals with lmgs n shit

[edgy siren]

@karmic ether in the moment. Losing isn't fun, sure, but losing with the boys, fighting as hard as we can, that too can be fun

[weary osprey]

Digging mole tunnels to the enemy lines

[real swift]

mhm

[weary osprey]

Fun as all hell

That’s why I’m kinda glad wardens are on defense

[edgy siren]

This?

[real swift]

Trench warfare is fun, especially if both sides actually make trench lines n shit

[edgy siren]

What is this

[weary osprey]

I like it

[edgy siren]

Current war?

[weary osprey]

Yeah, nobody really does that anymore sadly

They used to when they first came out

I like seeing the backpacks and the muddy fresh trenches

[ebon walrus]

I finally bought more ram

going to 16 gigs lol

[edgy siren]

Again. Again again again... Wardens have a 6 war lead

It's not fun for you, but it wasn't fun for us too

[weary osprey]

Now it’s just concrete bases in the back lines chomping on our gsupplies

[edgy siren]

We lost a war in 3 days

Efficiency sucks

Everyone agrees

[real swift]

Ngl had badass fun in the final town of a war with my pals

[weary osprey]

It’s the opposite of efficiency lol

[real swift]

We did everything to starve off that final blow to the TH

Bayonet charges against fully equiped lines with BTs

[edgy siren]

[real swift]

caused chaos where we could

[weary osprey]

Nobody likes efficiency, I can say that with confidence

[real swift]

Eventually we did loose, but i had fun as hell because we were fucking around and actually effectively stalling them

[weary osprey]

And that’s what it’s about

[edgy siren]

Efficiency only works well when taking opponents land. The variable highs and lows are terrible

[misty gate]

ok so heres some basic military theory i wanna lay down:
Offensive war is: effective. It allows for agency over what the status quo is. It focusses on the enemies weakest points. It has the superiority in terms of morale. The enemy has to spend more to retake the status quo and return to normal.

Defensive war is: strong. It has the advantage of home ground and depth. It has the advantage of more force multipliers. They can make the second move, perfectly countering the offensive move. Defensive war is actually stronger the more they lose as they get more supply lines.

Basically what im saying here is that Defensive is tough but its not what actually works to achieve goals. you need to be offensive for that.

Wardens are losing wars because we dont accept offensive wars. we dont do any big operations. we dont take initiative. we just sit back and let ourselves get pounded.

[real swift]

But you wont always be defensive, you will be offensive aswell, however your faction will have tools allowing you to be better defending, and collies have tools to be better attacking

it balances out

[weary osprey]

Yeah

[misty gate]

thats irrelevant actually it doesnt balance out at all

[real swift]

Yes it does lmao?

[misty gate]

if all our tools are 'defensive' then we will never go on the offensive

[real swift]

No.

[weary osprey]

Well our play style as a whole won’t be changed by a couple of vehicles

I don’t think the devs would be that fucking stupid to actually limit us

[dusky verge]

You have to remember defenses are inherently nerfed by alts as well. People logging on and screenshotting map intelligence brings the power of good defenses wayyy down

[weary osprey]

If they are, I’m done

[swift grail]

Cool. Ever considered that tanks, spgs, arty, are simply just the tools of war and how "offensive" or "defensive" a war is is completely in how its soldiers play and use the tools at their disposal?

The Tiger and Panther were meant to punch through Russian Armor but since there wasnt enough it got an offensive role in a defensive war?

[real swift]

^

[misty gate]

yep, defensive war is weakened extremely by alting.

[swift grail]

I... really dont get why we're bitching

[weary osprey]

Yeah nobody knows squat about the update yet

[real swift]

Why yall godda be so pessimistic doe

[misty gate]

"we are proud to announce that we will be adding the warden SUPERGUN. it is invincible and an even bigger storm cannon but if someone from the colonial faction enters within 100 meters and proves they are an alt account it explodes"

[weary osprey]

Like, basically no information got out to us

[real swift]

This is legit just 1/4th to 1/2th of the update man

[weary osprey]

Not even 1/2

[real swift]

Were not nearly done with seeing it all lmao

[weary osprey]

No stats are out

[misty gate]

wardens are effectively being castrated

[weary osprey]

The feedback might make them change their minds

[misty gate]

we are losing our offensive arsenal

[swift grail]

anyway I fault the devs for this one I think. They explicitly said that Wardens were Defensive and Collies were Offensive which, while true in lore, does not reflect how players are expected to play, only how they feel their weapons will be.

it's frustrating to see us respond like this

[dusky verge]

well so far we have lost nothing

colonials have just gained

[misty gate]

yes they are weakening our BT and our tanks

[weary osprey]

If anything, Collies should be defensive and Wardens offensive

In lore standards

[real swift]

You guys have effectively seen a colonial siege mortar said to have really short range for arty, heard the words “asymmetry, and colonials are more offensive based” and immediately claimed that now you will loose every time you come into contact with a colonial

[weary osprey]

The devs just want their favorite faction to win a little more

[misty gate]

honestly there should be offensive and defensive vehicles on both sides! making a faction 'all defensive' is suicide.

@real swift artillery is broken as fuck right now lmao

"lets give collies MORE artillery"

[weary osprey]

I think that’s what they’re gonna do @misty gate

[misty gate]

no thanks actually

[weary osprey]

A little bit of defense but more offense for collies

[misty gate]

being pounded by a gun i cant even see and cant do anything against isnt my idea of engaging gameplay

[weary osprey]

And the vice versa for wardens

[dusky verge]

I actually prefer a good defense to a good offense. Im just bummed by the current state of defenses

[real swift]

alright have your doubts man, I’ll just be excited for the new content

[weary osprey]

Yeah lol let’s all just play Colonial

[misty gate]

lmao

anybody who plays warden this war is an idiot

[weary osprey]

Have fun parties and parades every day

Worldwide peace

[real swift]

Not gonna continue with this lmao

[weary osprey]

Let’s just have an armistice in game

And refuse to fight at all

End all wars

[misty gate]

i mean the collies win every month anyway

[weary osprey]

And make game history before it is forced to shut down

[dusky verge]

You guys can't really be too salty till the warden vehicles are announced. Your salt is all speculation rn

Believe me, my sense tells me to be upset rn too but i'm waiting

[misty gate]

they got a assault mortar and we got a crippled battle tank

we already lose BTs to artillery fire and cant do anything about it

this is just compounding the already massive artillery problem

[ebon walrus]

the mortar has like no range

so its basically just a front line tank

we should wait and see what we get

[misty gate]

yea they really are

[dusky verge]

I honestly think mortar / arty gameplay isn't that fun anyway

[misty gate]

I want more reactive anti artillery defenses

[ebon walrus]

yeah

[dusky verge]

it's never really that special when you don't get to see your explosion

[ebon walrus]

I usually run mortars

[misty gate]

rn artillery is just 'you fuck over someone without any chance of fighting back because they cant actually get new artillery in because FA is too expensive to produce on mass'

[ebon walrus]

hmm

[misty gate]

you cant build a howitzer cuz the enemy howitzer will just snipe it

[ebon walrus]

but the reload is pretty bad probably

enough time to hit it with the BT

[misty gate]

that wont matter when you can just snipe howitzers and BTs

especially with the new tracking system

what if you track a BT or smash its engine open

[ebon walrus]

and HE might do less damage to BTs now

yeah well

we all are in the end lel

[dusky verge]

A defensive bias for wardens could work as long as defenses as they are now are made stronger

[misty gate]

this is the worst thing they could have done lmao. they nerfed the BT at the same time as they buff artillery

[swift grail]

I find speculation on potential encounters with the theoretical mortar vehicle to be pointless until we see what warden capabilities are

[dusky verge]

they used to

back when tunnel networks were a thing

[ebon walrus]

we dont know if this is an arty buff or nerf @misty gate

[dusky verge]

we had stalemates

Yea ik

[misty gate]

@dusky verge Alting means any defence is irrelevant. I once watched as Foxcatcher, a fortress city, got invaded by 30+ colonials after i was there 10 minutes ago setting up layers upon layers of defences.

[dusky verge]

true

And yes ik alts weaken defenses a lot

[misty gate]

There should have been a several hour long siege, but a alt had used satchels to weaken our defences and knock out our towers.

[north aspen]

The only time a defense succeeds is if the defenders are facing a border invasion
And even then the guys near the border are going to just keep. Coming. Back.

[dusky verge]

Hey, as a builder main, I feel the pain here the most

[misty gate]

defence is stupid and irrelevant

[north aspen]

We are currently experiencing that this war

[misty gate]

wardens need to adopt offensive tactics and this is the worst thing they could have done.

agreed

[north aspen]

We can only repel so many invasions

[misty gate]

no more clan bases, colonials dont do that in my experience

that resources should go to tanks

[haughty ridge]

yeah

[misty gate]

we need aggressive pushes into undefended colonial tanks. and we need clans working together again.

bring back the clan counsel please.

well, CCF is willing to work with any and all warden clans

and we're still ingame

[north aspen]

Clans are dead till the update war I think
Pretty sure WM said that

[misty gate]

a shame

well, CCF will keep on keeping on.

[north aspen]

Breaks are important

[cursive solar]

I’ve been in break long enough

But three quarters of foxhole is not playing

[pulsar osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581607423928827937/730228063069274262/G_r_o_o_v_i_n.mp4

[red pine]

Nice

[misty gate]

Smash lookin weird lately

[keen pasture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/625657782669934593/730406588006924288/video0_11.mp4

[real swift]

any of yall got barotrauma and wanna join a game

[shrewd flume]

I got barotrauma but not today sanity

[real swift]

bbr

[lime junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBViCck23K8

[woven scarab]

Where is that from

[lime junco]

ace combat 6

[woven scarab]

King's Bridge

B R U H

[lime junco]

ya

[keen forge]

tango down

[agile cargo]

https://i.imgur.com/bWf9ISf.png this is a new one

ive never had a crash before now

[willow fjord]

I think I lost my mind

[bitter shuttle]

Next devlog: "We've added atmosphere tiers"

[fierce swan]

a pit of friends :)

[dusky verge]

thats actually kinda unsettling

[plain mountain]

aww ferrets

[karmic ether]

love how one starts thrashing around which causes the rest to go crazy as well

[ebon walrus]

luka

bad

[native sable]

Hey this is general discussion

[ebon walrus]

who is messi

[native sable]

Alter Ego

Don’t want people in my online class seeing what this Luka thing is.

So, Something Boring, like international soccer

[ebon walrus]

ah good choice

[native sable]

Also, XCOM is worse than X-COM

Even with the snakes you can’t have things like this happen

[ebon walrus]

lmao

Hostile unit has dead

[native sable]

Hey, I’ll take losing rep with Marsec over running into 20 poppers any day,

[charred vigil]

ah, apocalypse

first one was funny

"so , how do you deal with aliens early game when you don't have lasers and stuff"
"2x Rocket HWP, 6 Marines with high strength that also carry rocket launchers."

[woven scarab]

🤔 https://imgur.com/a/VaN8C8V

8 panels

[near jewel]

Oh shit guys

[charred atlas]

@obtuse nymph

My convoy was passing by a 60 man armor column and people were experincing frame drops.

[atomic meteor]

Hawt

[edgy siren]

Vehicle Physics
https://youtu.be/9h3RHClfmNs

Fuel & Tank Armour
https://youtu.be/VF-U4JdZ8eY

Vehicle Variants
https://youtu.be/jSf9UThUVrk

@limber minnow

[limber minnow]

OwO

Danke

[karmic ether]

Thats a dump truck, nothing interesting

[atomic meteor]

Excuse you

dump truck driver is one of my dream jobs

Alongside crane operator and semi truck driver

[neat holly]

Commercial driver is one of those jobs that kills you slowly.

I thank my luck for having a job where i can do my work standing up

[atomic meteor]

That's why they work well as dream jobs I can live out through videogames instead

[lean turret]

What about Community Manager job

[neat holly]

If you are ok with making no money, sure. Go right ahead

[astral moss]

Max probably makes 40k a year

[neat holly]

Thats a yikes. Just do sales. You'll make more if you dont suck, and you get to drive around outside of the office as long as you are dealing with businesses or boomers\

[atomic meteor]

Iirc he started part time with another job too. I don't know what it currently looks like because he also does more than CM stuff now, and because of course he doesn't talk about that stuff with the community.

[mortal night]

smh my head got booted from free fod

[lean turret]

Not you

[atomic meteor]

It got nuked, probably for violating discord TOS @mortal night

[mortal night]

aww

had a good run violating tos F

[still plaza]

I think they've already set up 2nd free fod

just ask a mod to mute you

[lean turret]

3rd too

[north aspen]

There are currently 3 FFODs not counting the nuked one

One is the Chad FFOD
One is Free FOD 2
One is just the Grumbling vets thing I found while scrolling through #clan-recruitment checking if there were more clan servers I needed to join

On a more upbeat note
The cat is good

[drowsy cipher]

😄

[keen apex]

damn, modular vehicals.

just as i sugguested

didnt erally really see them, though i thought i suggested it 1st. but im not in the mood to scroll back through years of posts

[ebon walrus]

ive been saying it for quite some time, and im not the first lol

[elder lake]

Yo

[native sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603925363772358660/721130675415023626/video0_72.mp4

[maiden fern]

i love that von isnt even a russian name

[topaz hedge]

C A T

[gray stump]

C A T !

[karmic ether]

C A T

[north aspen]

C A T !

[dense reef]

bruh my scope is funked

[maiden fern]

is that cs:go

[dense reef]

ye

[maiden fern]

in 2020

get the FUCK out of my sight

[dense reef]

im a sliver two fucc wit me

💪

[maiden fern]

i reached nova once

fear me mortal

[dense reef]

ive been having bags of fun fighting russia on csgo

[maiden fern]

last time i played that game was in 2016 i think

cant say i miss it

[dense reef]

everyone is russian on it

angry and russian

[maiden fern]

so it hasnt changed at all

[dense reef]

cs is timeless

nice and simple

[ripe forge]

War over yet?

[topaz hedge]

Yup

[karmic ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxoe5DjDd74

[dense reef]

messing around with a new skull design. i quite like this its come out well

[lean turret]

What changed

[edgy siren]

Yes

[plain mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-cute-animals-cute-jump-im-coming-gif-17159109

@edgy siren

[cosmic cliff]

why did i click on this channel...

[edgy siren]

@plain mountain agreed

[plain mountain]

what's wrong with a fox with googly eyes

[north aspen]

It's trying to eat me

[near jewel]

I don't think it's real or even done on purpose.

Wait. Nvm

[dense reef]

check it out i redesigned muh skullz

[near jewel]

Noice

[dense reef]

my political compass test put me as center left.

center best place

[grizzled turret]

🤣

[pure ember]

@dense reef Vanripper would like to have a word with you https://www.youtube.com/user/vanripper17

[woven scarab]

my political compass test put me as center left.
Political compass test?

[karmic ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8yh83jlXg

[near jewel]

Political compass test?
there are tests on the Internet that You can take to determine your place on a graphic depiction of political ideologies

[near jewel]

Noooooo! I don't wanna be hovercraft! NOOOOO!

[atomic meteor]

jesus christ is that an M3 Lee hovertank?

It actually looks badass

[karmic ether]

Lol
@cursive knot Thats an old peice of iron, Thats a BTR 152 from the 50's

and that ambulance is real

https://ifunny.co/fun/dcL2Gg4o7?s=cl

[near jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515512348144828419/726339415953244180/video0.mp4

[karmic ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEPbx_iSjw If you want depressig music here you go,
My father and my teld me Chernobly, Luckly I born after it a in 93,

[woven scarab]

That show was depressing all around

the first episode especially

https://i.imgur.com/M5cOPVR.jpg 🤔

[knotty tiger]

lol

[west hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/203512636556574720/731182366571102339/Screenshot_1175.png

F

[scarlet finch]

🥵

[pure ember]

Yet another victim of malnutrition

[woven scarab]

still kinda shit though

[storm swallow]

I'm pretty new, can someone explain how resistance mode works?

[knotty lotus]

It's not really anything right now

It used to be that the losing team would go into resistance and certain towns would have a chance to convert over to that team and could then be spawned at

It's really just a break between wars right now

[karmic ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598682854267813919/731211288218173500/Ill_be_a_teroriste.mp4

[woven scarab]

https://i.imgur.com/dvIEztE.jpg

[karmic ether]

bob would have diabetes if he keeps eating those candies

[crystal thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay1WXKVK7vs

[edgy siren]

[karmic ether]

Can anyone tell me what the black area is?

[karmic ether]

@edgy siren people are toxic

Pls help

[still plaza]

welcome in the non slowmode area

ah man 5 seconds feels so good

[thin locust]

Hmm

[still plaza]

hmm

[thin locust]

I was equivocated it seems. Everyone got a 5min slowmode?

[still plaza]

yup

it's just a slowmode for that channel

[karmic ether]

Why the fuck cant we simply agree on

[woven scarab]

rip foxhole discussions

[karmic ether]

Banning cheaters

[thin locust]

Aight, Imma head out.

[karmic ether]

It baffles me people defending mad

[woven scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-5305267

[still plaza]

we can

[karmic ether]

2nd time

[thin locust]

FOD about to get nuked.

[still plaza]

but you don't seem to realsie what you're doing

[still plaza]

you're talking some mad shit about entire collie faction

[woven scarab]

ah, Nordern

[still plaza]

what do you expect

[near jewel]

Yup

[near jewel]

Also

[past nimbus]

FOD is the best most active frontline in foxhole besauce you don't need logi to have fun

[woven scarab]

why is sunchips posting feet

[wise torrent]

general discussion chads

[still plaza]

imagine having a 5 minute slowmode

cringe

[north aspen]

Let's force them to add that here as well

[near jewel]

I literally can't

[native sable]

What the fuck happened?

[woven scarab]

imagine having a 5 minute slowmode
imagine having a 1 hour slowmode

[native sable]

No really someone tell me what happened

[severe marten]

big argument over cheater whent bad

[native sable]

Oh, what’s the details,

Who/how

[severe marten]

I am too bias and may mess it up

[native sable]

Don’t get too into it, I just want a quick rundown.

[woven scarab]

and apparently sunchips got binned

[thin locust]

MAD used an exploit to get an APC and HMGs.

[severe marten]

and everyone got mad

[dusk venture]

moderate this game!

[woven scarab]

an exploit to make or spawn them?

[thin locust]

They had done it in a previous war to get an AC.

[native sable]

Weird, how did they exploit?

I didn’t think that was possible

[thin locust]

People got angry and asked for punishment against people abusing a bug

[north aspen]

We dont know

[severe marten]

no clue but no arguing here

[thin locust]

Then FOD shat itself

[north aspen]

Large argument lead to nothing but 5 minute slowmode

[native sable]

Is it possible the devs stashed tech and they are the only ones to figure it out?

[woven scarab]

I mean, a bug that provides an unintended advantage is an exploit and should be rectified

[thin locust]

Nah, Markfoot said it was a bug

Which MAD have learned to exploit

[native sable]

I mean that’s really unlikely if it’s been 2 wars

[charred vigil]

server doesn't restart properly.

it's basically a storage cache

[woven scarab]

I'm still wondering about that dude's face btw

[severe marten]

I just want MAD to get in trouble and to stop being insulted evry few seconds for multiple things like my country and how I play a vidio game

[native sable]

Don’t really see the incentive to Jump in group punishment

Also Darkdawn 2 now plz

Sick of waiting

[severe marten]

they did it multiple times at least punish the people in the apc and ac

[charred vigil]

even if they do, we won't get a concrete answer.

[native sable]

That’s still not really logical if it’s a loophole,

[karmic ether]

since everyone is too autistic to use alternative channels

i will inagurate the memes

[severe marten]

finally spam the memes

[charred vigil]

India superpower 2020

[woven scarab]

@near jewel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8dCGIm6yc
I do wish I learned about these guys earlier

[karmic ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613047507320307712/731609789963960400/https___t.co_doCfF6pFST.mp4

[native sable]

Seriously, that’s too much?

[near jewel]

Ah yes. Sweet sweet deep throat music

[woven scarab]

hey, who removed that twitter video

I was watching that
give it back

[woven scarab]

ngl that snake (the real snake) is very pretty

[near jewel]

hey, who removed that twitter video
which one?

[woven scarab]

with obama

[native sable]

^ Yeah, this is fine.

[charred vigil]

Kosovo je Srbija

[near jewel]

Fuck. I hope it won't escalate

[chrome flower]

Balkans love to escalate things

[native sable]

American Politics that accumulate in social change and activism: No get, get them out of the discord right now!

[severe marten]

no politics here live there and have to see them evry day

[native sable]

South Slavic politics that accumulated in 100 years of violence and 3 genocides: yeahs that’s fine.

[true salmon]

Jesus fucking christ I will mute all of you

[sinful bridge]

Igorqoo#6351 was muted | Didn't stop the politics.

[woven scarab]

@native sable

[native sable]

Love it, what’s it from?

[woven scarab]

arist called Darbaras

[native sable]

Furry I presume

[woven scarab]

Yeah.

[native sable]

I respect Scalies, but I can’t say I’m into it.

[woven scarab]

Don't need to be "into" it

I mean, they don't even have to be terrestrial

Still, out of all those kinds of pictures, the ones I always like the most are the ones that more or less try to make it seem normal.

And not just "haha fox in human pants"

[severe marten]

I keep getting one person saying my name in FOD and bringing me back in

[true salmon]

rip

[severe marten]

yea the people that abused the bug shuld be banned for this war or just a few daya

[woven scarab]

But where does furry end and alien begin?

[true salmon]

That's where it becomes fun

[charred vigil]

nah, best idea is to delay the ban until update
rub it in

[woven scarab]

What do you mean, Icanari?

[charred vigil]

Icanari no
bad icanari
bad

[true salmon]

[plain mountain]

https://twitter.com/YandereDevOOC/status/1281419704834445314?s=20

Out Of Context YandereDev (@YandereDevOOC)

The heaviest model in Yandere Simulator is actually a toothbrush.

With a massive 5,592 faces, this model was originally designed for realism in CGI commercials but YandereDev decided to put it in the game as a small decoration.

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[woven scarab]

this again?

[plain mountain]

again?

sorry if it's been posted or talked about before, am slow brain

[woven scarab]

:slowpoke:

[lean turret]

Wtf, is this 2017 again?

[woven scarab]

There was a whole thread here on yandere like 4 weeks ago

[lean turret]

What the fuck is Slowpokelet

[woven scarab]

sorry if it's been posted or talked about before, am slow brain
Don't be.

It was like weeks ago, not like 10 minutes ago

[severe marten]

this chat is so calm

[fierce swan]

I’m so fucjing tired of fod

[woven scarab]

@lean turret I'm in a server where people posting something that was posted before are replied to with a slowpoke emoji or told that they have scrollitus

[lean turret]

Too used to GW already?

[woven scarab]

mostly when it was posted before and still readily readable by scrolling up

lolno, it's not a GW emoji. Just a really toxic server

[plain mountain]

on the scalie art: those two pieces are really cool
love the thicc lines on them, really aspire to integrate that into my style someday

[woven scarab]

So if someone were to post the toothbrush again now, thinking they were the first, they'd call them a slowpoke and say they have scrollitus and a medical disability to scroll up

@plain mountain

I found them here, since he cleaned out his dA account.
http://joyreactor.cc/tag/Darbaras

[plain mountain]

feathery snekpeople aaaahhhhhhhhh

[woven scarab]

she looks angery too

[plain mountain]

angery but cute

[lean turret]

Considering that they could've done something like a battle tank, I actually think they showed restraint
@native sable Till next war
https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/203512636556574720/731587747512451154

[charred vigil]

I think it's HT
ammo is cheap and easy to make

tanks have the chance to get killed by stickies
HTs much less so

[woven scarab]

@plain mountain I like that picture because it looks thought out

[plain mountain]

ye

[woven scarab]

such as the collar reaching so far up

[plain mountain]

and the cap resting behind the brow-ridges

[woven scarab]

that first picture

you can actually see the headset

[plain mountain]

ye, and made specifically with the species in mind as well instead of being some human-style headphones/headset as well

[ebon walrus]

ooo cool sneks

[plain mountain]

snekkos

[karmic ether]

Ez

[sinful bridge]

jackfrancis10174#6503 has been warned., Do not encourage raids on this platform.

[topaz hedge]

In this tumultuous time and place that is FOD, at least we have Rabbit to clear our minds

[fierce swan]

kygo

[karmic ether]

is slow mo good here

[keen apex]

AsLoNg As It HaS bReAd ThEN YeAh

[fierce swan]

@fluid void

It is 7:26 PM

[charred atlas]

https://twitter.com/justr0ach/status/1281804480300941312?s=21

[fierce swan]

@charred atlas tweet unavailable

[charred atlas]

The coward deleted his tweet

[fierce swan]

what was it

[charred atlas]

deep fake yandere dev singing

[fierce swan]

Was it beatboxing?

[charred atlas]

no

it was actual lip syncing to like a song

[fierce swan]

kinda like this

[charred atlas]

yeah but some kind of lisenced song

[tropic moth]

https://www.twitch.tv/thecommanderrod
and type in !Race

You know you have nothign better to do

[neat holly]

bet mofo. oroboro is streaming

[ivory helm]

x

[charred atlas]

@fierce swan https://twitter.com/yuurmika/status/1281981172118159364

LEO! | BADUM?!?! 💓 ドクン was @nahmanari (@yuurmika)

AM I GOING INSANE DID SOMEONE USE RENDER EDITING TO DO THIS
https://t.co/XfLABCbmqF

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[fierce swan]

lol nice

that is pretty damn well made

honestly once deep fakes stop making people wobbly and make the background static they're going to be so fucked

[gray stump]

I find this in my camp

[ebon walrus]

congrats

you have found the fat lizard

he will now eat all your snacks

[topaz pulsar]

fat lizard

fat lizard

[edgy siren]

What'cha going to do?

[dusky verge]

cute lizard

[dusky verge]

borb

[dusky verge]

[edgy siren]

[dusky verge]

[pure ember]

[plain mountain]

pfft

[edgy siren]

@unique orchid hello. A rebuttal from #game-feedback-archive. One of the two greatest complaints in Foxhole logi is drive time. The distance going to and back again.

With the idea of having more nodes, less value could workwith the reset times, but then you have no point of interest.

I would argue, with fewer nodes, yes partisans can target your supply lines, but larger groups of scrappers would also funnel to these key locations. Making it high traffic areas anyways.

[unique orchid]

@edgy siren Agreed, but I still insist on making more nodes if logi reforms will touch this aspect. But for now let's just have fun with what we got and don't argue

[edgy siren]

👌

[unique orchid]

👈 😎 👈

[plain mountain]

https://twitter.com/drewdurnil/status/1282207035799425026?s=19

Drew Durnil (@drewdurnil)

The front lines have been drawn

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[edgy siren]

Mexico is very uWu

Who knew?

[mint onyx]

well for once ima have to side with china

[pure ember]

He's going to make a hoi4 video with that isn't he

[plain mountain]

https://twitter.com/Ad_Inifinitum/status/1281313451563012096?s=19

Ad Infinitum (@Ad_Inifinitum)

fuck it. skydogs https://t.co/vz86TE5S0T

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[edgy siren]

https://youtu.be/GXyZ1T1xp90

@drowsy cipher @keen hornet

I know you guys play

I'm excited

[woven scarab]

🤔

[keen hornet]

@edgy siren i am mildly aroused

[edgy siren]

[topaz pulsar]

Greyhound is a good movie that y'all should watch

that is all

[woven scarab]

oh yeah

the destroyer movie

I wanna see it

[woven scarab]

lol

the ubisoft stream 🤔

[barren sable]

saw it last night. thoroughly enjoyed it

[woven scarab]

[woven scarab]

bruh

this video is epic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiqtlBKTLDw

[karmic ether]

What is this

Operation Condor?

[woven scarab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv1jHiaHafY there's this too

IMO Giancarlo is the perfect cast

That dude pulls off the "calm exterior, hurricane interior" vibe to a T

Sure it doesn't, but it eases our journey to our inevitable death and the inescapable Big Chill.

[plain mountain]

nice

[woven scarab]

what country tho

that must suck tbh

[plain mountain]

@woven scarab USA

they're probably delaying it based on timezone but it's already uploaded a billion times elsewhere

[woven scarab]

@plain mountain try this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbGbLWevpC4

[plain mountain]

yeah that one works

tbh as long as fc6 lets me enjoy the world sandbox without railroading me into missions I'll be happy, far cry sandboxes are the best to just screw around in

but the annoying ass capture sequences from fc5 can go die

[woven scarab]

I dunno. I feel this setup is too precious to waste on a fully unrestricted sandbox

the captures sequences suck ass

I still need to finish fc5

But fc5 I feel is also largely forgettable because of, as a lot of people put it, a total lack of any kind of personality on the protagonist's part.

[plain mountain]

either/or works honestly, but don't give the impression of an unlimited sandbox and then take you out of the fun with magic drowsy bullets, it has to be one or the other or else it just immediately takes you out of the experience once it takes a sharp weave from one genre to the other

[woven scarab]

magic drowsy bullets
is in a helicopter 600m in the air
gets hit anyway

[plain mountain]

yeah right lmao

the far cry games to me have always just been fun combat/stealth sandboxy games, I've never really finished any of them but I've had a blast just with the mechanics playing them over and over again

once the story gets involved though my brain just sorta shuts off like "but why tho"

not necessarily, I've enjoyed the dragon age games pretty well and those are pretty story driven, kotor 1 and 2 were pretty fun too

true

I was referring to the story part more but if you've got sandbox games, make the story a worthwhile overarching thing while the main game takes place in the sandbox environment

and don't give me the guilt trippy "you did a bad thing even though we forced you to, don't you feel so bad about that???"

"doing bad things is bad!"

[woven scarab]

I never liked the whole "clear checkpoint" thing they introduced with 3

In 5 it feels like the story is trying to justify the game design

[plain mountain]

sorta yeah

[woven scarab]

hurr durr, liberate areas to force a confrontation

It just feels so...

it's giving me ludonarrative dissonance

[plain mountain]

both the gameplay and the story sorta hold you by the hand like a child

[woven scarab]

the whole "they hide in their respective bunkers until you make them angry enough" just feels wholly out of place

of what

which is assume is shooting dudes until they stop moving?

[fierce swan]

This is, by and far, the funniest foxhole image I own

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/562328160117456907/731975326137188492/image0.jpg

[plain mountain]

hehe chemical grenade go phwiishhhh

[ebon walrus]

[fierce swan]

It’s the simple things in life

[native sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285134952683536388/731975867764572200/video0_5_1.mp4

[paper timber]

the update came early

[drowsy cipher]

https://youtu.be/GXyZ1T1xp90
@edgy siren
indeed, its gonna be quite cool

i see myself going back to unturned from time to time, i think its the best free to play survival game out there

[pulsar osprey]

Hole

[frozen cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730806717683859547/731948932409589820/WCGW_trusting_a_puddle.mp4

[dusky verge]

foxhole roads

[fierce swan]

god that sound is horrible
hate it

the car at 0:50 didn't do too bad tho

[red girder]

Oh I forget this place exists a lot

What even goes on in here

[drowsy cipher]

jesus

[native sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285134952683536388/731975830577872946/nice_cock.mp4

9.2 out of ten, keep it up cowboy!

🤠

[karmic ether]

Malina best girl

[woven scarab]

@plain mountain So I played some FC5 again and had a think. One of the possible major reasons why I feel that FC5 falls flat (aside from the player character being everyone else's puppet) is that you just go around clearing areas of static baddies to fill up a meter to face off against the bigger baddie and eventually the biggest baddie.

I'd love for the player to have more freedom in FC6 in letting them liberate Yara (preferably without checkpoints that you clear of enemies who just wander around along the same patrol route until the heat death of the universe), but I feel that an ultimate sandbox like this needs to come with an enemy that adapts and plays in the very same sandbox. An opponent with access to the same tools as you. Someone who moves against you at all times and not just does a scripted thing once you fill the meter past a certain point (ie the magic sleepy bullets). FC5 feels dead as a doornail, static as all hell, because the footsoldiers have no initiative and the Seed family shows no agency. Past the scripted events, they won't lift a finger to stop you, and only occasionally mention over the radio that they're disappointed in you.

I am worried, though. One of the pre-orders is a goddamn CD-ROM launcher. The website page shows a picture of what looks like a DIY rifle. I really hope they very much limit the sillyness and keep the serious and dark theme that the title sequence and trailer show.

But at the same time I don't think we'll get such a freeform sandbox where you can plan your own revolution and fight against an enemy who adapts like you would in other freeform game genres.

https://preview.redd.it/o6053h24qha51.jpg?width=903&auto=webp&s=00e1261ed6ce0c8fe7d0820a3c9c2cd2bbc45c53

I say an adapting enemy (El Presidente) because I assume that much like FC5 you're going to have lots of people on both sides fighting each other, and them being static defenders and scripted patrols is going to hurt the game (IMO) more than it helps. With FC5 you're literally the only person having any agency and taking the initiative, even if it's things said people have told you to do.

[woven scarab]

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[short berry]

@woven scarab you perfectly described far cry succes formula good job

[torpid hare]

i cant move o m g

[pure ember]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-thomas-train-gif-6180870

[woven scarab]

@short berry Except I think this "success formula" is ehh at best

[plain mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/522518431560499200/731632373061386250/image0.jpg

@ebon walrus

[short berry]

@woven scarab youre just not their audience xD

[woven scarab]

@short berry Pretty sure there are very few if any singleplayer sandbox games for which I'm the audience.

[short berry]

stop being so picky

[woven scarab]

stop being so content

@plain mountain lol

[plain mountain]

weheh

[woven scarab]

I think Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be Skyrim with more graphics

[short berry]

dont see anything wrong with that

as long as they dont go the radiant fallout 4 route

yes

radiant quest lack all sense of creativity and unique personality that makes a game

[ebon walrus]

@plain mountain lmao

[exotic spruce]

An Elder Scrolls game being like Skyrim is already enough of a problem, so as long as it doesnt get worse I can't be too upset.

[woven scarab]

Elder Scrolls is one of those games that work perfectly when you do what they expect of you.

You're free to go wherever and do whatever, but nothing really happens unless you keep going with the main quest

If you decide "Nah, I'll sit in Whiterun and make potions for weeks on end" nothing will actually happen in Skyrim.

Not without mods, anyway

The game world can't exist without you

[exotic spruce]

That's more of a creative liberty choice, or lack thereof. The real problem is that Elder Scrolls has been on the directional downfall that fallout took, where the actual roleplay is falling away to becoming more casualized in the sense that it's nigh gone

[woven scarab]

imo it's RPG insofar that you can play any role and be anyone you want, so long as you're the dragonborn.

The customer can have the model T in any color he wants so long as it is black

[exotic spruce]

At its core, it is still an RPG, you are most certainly correct in that regard and I won't argue otherwise. The problem really is that it's not an Elder Scrolls RPG, it's more akin to a "Fantasy RPG" but it lacks the creative freedom of letting you be an RPG character in it really. From Oblivion there was several features that fleshed out your style and design of character and different "archetypes" you chose to begin with to mold your design. In Skyrim, you have 3 "stats" (if you would call them that) you advance and when you reach a level with more normalized skills, you select perks.

It's not necessarily a bad RPG, but to be the sequel in a long line of RPGs that personified a personal creativity for your character, it's a sort of metaphorical slap in the face

[plain mountain]

cynder

[woven scarab]

@exotic spruce A lot of games throw in character progression in terms of levels and unlockable skills and stat modifiers and call themselves an RPG. For me, an actual RPG revolves more around choices your character can or has to make and less about levels and skills. Greater emphasis on who they are rather than what they can do.

It's why I enjoyed SWTOR so much. The gameplay was okay-ish, but the cutscenes let you make both meaningful and meaningless (such as being a douche instead of being nice) choices. The former is often included in RPG quests, but it's the latter that I really miss because that's where you can really express your character.

[short berry]

you have to understand that its alot of development time to pour into a game, which also might end up frustrating alot of other players who do want to make potions for weeks on end without the story progressing without them

[unborn sigil]

Swtor was great that way, I finished a playthrough and didnt want to play because of how great the experience was.

[woven scarab]

There is no perfect pasta sauce, only perfect pasta sauses.

Too bad everyone is doubling down on the sauce I'd rather pass up if I could.

[plain mountain]

sos

[willow fjord]

Elder Scrolls are regressing since daggerfall, change my mind

It's just less of a challenge every iteration.

And Skyrim... Don't get me started on that. You can do whatever and it is still easy

[woven scarab]

the earrape is 👌

[karmic ether]

😏

[plain mountain]

you got good dayed?

[dusky verge]

[near jewel]

Why the hate for Bavaria?

Is that some kind of German inside joke?

[chrome flower]

Probably some historical jokes Beacouse think i see the old flag of Austrian Empire

[atomic meteor]

Is there a German in the audience who can enlighten us?

[plain mountain]

southern germany (bavaria) I think is sort of the odd german child

it also passed hands between austria and germany a few times iirc

[karmic ether]

DIY broccoli

[neat holly]

cursed

[plain mountain]

ew. ew ew ew.

[pure ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469316956412051476/725628848460529714/video0.mp4

[pine hinge]

how much do i need to wait to redeploy?

[karmic ether]

anyone know what "AVE SARIS AUGUSTUS" means?

[native sable]

Hail Young-Lord Augustus! @karmic ether

[karmic ether]

thats cool to know

[native sable]

Although it’s subject to change depending on how it’s used, the sentence doesn’t work in Latin.

Now that I think about it “Saris” might be a persons name in this context,

[karmic ether]

it is

they are the leader of a clan im in

[pulsar osprey]

@frozen cedar yo what the fuck is that