Yeah same
#general-discussion
ebon walrus
near jewel
I prefer plants over domesticated animals.
ebon walrus
that would be an any% speedrun of life complete
topaz hedge
Speed run?
shrewd flume
Sorry poofball glitch is to fast for life any% speedrun and has been outlawed by the living community
ebon walrus
damn
karmic ether
ebon walrus
smh modern artists cant capitalize
still plaza
woven scarab
plain mountain
lol
woven scarab
@plain mountain there's even a story to the horny jail picture/meme
So you can just counter with the next picture back and forth
plain mountain
pulsar osprey
spice ruin
karmic ether
barren barn
Hello FoD
I have an announcement to make
There will be a free ice cream social in the break room today. Feel free to reach into my pockets and take all my wallets. Thank you.
sleek wolf
playing civ 6 and the romans said my empire was too small so we became not friends anymore. and so i declared war on them to show how big my empire is.
chrome flower
Small in size big in spirits?
pure ember
karmic ether
This came into my recommended again. Thought Id share it. Lol
olive thicket
rigid forum
@woven scarab He can draw, he just doesnt dare to
gaunt geyser
sleek wolf
atomic meteor
Heh, the last one always gets me @karmic ether
potent beacon
karmic ether
@atomic meteor Yeah I love the "I Took Ballistics In School! Fascinating Subject! Things Go Up! Things Go Down!
topaz hedge
Jesus Vulpus that’s an almighty list
topaz hedge
^
sleek wolf
i couldnt read it
karmic ether
Since it is on Reddit now I deleted it, go comment on Reddit about it :^)
And read it there, sorry if I interrupted you reading it @sleek wolf
woven scarab
Imma just post it here.
I made a ting https://youtu.be/Ps0mK7Nm06o
@rigid forum
Sure as hell took me way too long to make the video
pure ember
karmic ether
plain mountain
haven't played 5 in ages but I like a lot of the mechanics that 6 introduced, in the base game. the expansions I'm not super fond of though.. they tend to detract more from general empire building than I'd like. right now I'm playing basegame 6 and it's been more fun than I've had in a while
karmic ether
Civ 5 with vox populi mod is great
Like REALLY good
You should try it if you want empire building
It makes it so you can expand without bs mechanics
Happines is localised now
So you can improve cities happines to expand even more
plain mountain
yeah I've heard vox is pretty good, just haven't bothered to reinstall 5 in a long time. I like the district system in 6, it's probably one of the better mechanics introduced, but there's some other questionable choices they've made along the way
karmic ether
Well. You should really try it. Its like a civ 7
You can vassalize civs
Or fight wars that are not carpet zergs
Or sell technology and world maps
plain mountain
sounds like 5 with more of 4's features implemented
karmic ether
Yeah.
Vox populi or VP for shot consist of many mods
One of them is civ 4 diplomacy mod
That also adds an embassy system
You cant bribe city states anymore
Monry doesnt get you influence you need diplomats
And like
they change EVERYTHING in the game
plain mountain
I'll probably give it a shot at some point, I've had too many people recommend it to me to not
karmic ether
Alright
plain mountain
I do know the art direction in civ 5 kinda drags me down after a while. it's just way more grey and subdued, I can spend a lot longer playing 6 without feeling like I need to go outside and bask in some sunlight to get some color in my life
karmic ether
Yeah
I think its the contrast the terrain has
And like the colors used beign sharp
It hurts your eyes after a while
swift grail
After playing EU4 and learning how to not suck at the game I just couldn't get myself to play civ games again
vocal pond
upbeat sail
fierce swan
if you consider anclet a "gay rat" (this is debatable) then there are 5 gay rat reactions
blazing schooner
https://youtu.be/uV9s1a6AZT0 collies don’t have cool tunes like these
woven scarab
drowsy cipher
ok then
ebon walrus
ah yes increments of 250
sinful bridgeBOT
ghost#9910 was yeeted out of here (banned) | shitposting and posting offensive videos
sweet nest
🍞
karmic ether
well shit
woven scarab
:fodskinnyarrowright: Political and religious discussion/talk of ideologies is generally not allowed
woven scarab
particularly the inflammatory variety isn't allowed I should think
compact flint
We may not be able to check in chat regularly but if we do see it , you’re breaking the rules
Yes
woven scarab
@compact flint was it you who removed it?
compact flint
because I’m tired of dealing with complaints from people from this country or complaining about this person posting something
Yes
woven scarab
One thing I really hate about mods of any kind is when they remove things without ever making their presence known and leaving people wondering where it went.
karmic ether
modman bad
compact flint
I am busy dealing with other things
karmic ether
end of the discussion
compact flint
So if u want to pick on that sure
astral bane
pretend you are busy
karmic ether
watch out
compact flint
I’m still at work thanks
karmic ether
mod man get the gun ,and is spinning
like a russian roulete
by the way , is pointless to discuss facts with bananas
im out , see ya in the next massive ping in deadlands
woven scarab
I've had bad experiences in the past where mods of a forum removed things that weren't really breaking any rules per se, and then feigning innocence when called out.
compact flint
Then those are some real dumbass mods
If they were asked , then just answer
unless it’s some extreme cases then it would possibly make sense but if they were asked then they should answer
plain mountain
tl;dr some guy was shitposting and posted garbage-tier memes about trans suicide rates n stuff
had no presence on the fod except for yesterday when he posted
compact flint
Nah anclet he be talking about smth else
plain mountain
that's what I recall
compact flint
anyways moving on
potent ginkgo
I highly recommend the colonization 4 mod, religion and revolutions. It's like colonization but with 2x more resource types and slaves
I like to think the devs of foxhole all came up playin red alert
plain mountain
I believe markfoot played a lot of C&C before
shrewd flume
yeah mark is a red alert player
Suprised we dont have attack dogs and tesla coils yet
Only a matter of time
short berry
I am more suprised he doesnt follow its game design
woven scarab
woven scarab
I love Mongolian Throat singing
ngl, r/mountandblade introduced me to the HU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8dCGIm6yc
floral depot
mongolian throat singing sounds way better than yoko ono
plain mountain
@woven scarab I got randomly recommended the HU months ago and I've never been more satisfied with youtube's algorithm
shrewd flume
Why just mongolian throat singing
is the inuit style to spooky
Or overtone polyphonic
shrewd flume
Theres also yat-kha and huun-huur-tu
Non traditional throat singing is also kinda popular in germany i guess the metals not metal enough without sounding like an earthquake as well
karmic ether
I just dont like it.
woven scarab
drowsy cipher
Is it any of the Empire Earth games?
@woven scarab its from Empires: dawn of the modern age
Kind of a spiritual successor to Empire Earth 1
sleek wolf
olive thicket
raw birch
karmic ether
native sable
native sable
That’s the joke
sleek wolf
charred vigil
with a Jenner Oxide lmao
shrewd flume
native sable
topaz hedge
German engineering at it's finest (circa 1945, colourised)
hearty pebble
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560248698697678870/716122061088751636/IMG_20200529_180836.jpg New toy 🙂
karmic ether
skrrt skrrt
charred vigil
naval gun ?
compact flint
Nop
edgy siren
man I miss when games came with huge charts like this
@plain mountain same bruh, same
plain mountain
now if only it'd install correctly 
edgy siren
drowsy cipher
@plain mountain ive never heard of that game before
im organizing EE1 online matches with our peeps
wanna join any day? gotta download NeoEE
drowsy cipher
i mean
i discovered it yesterday
never heard it before yesterday
xD
U down for some EE1?
karmic ether
plain mountain
@edgy siren I got it to run 
shrewd flume
Eiris sazun idisi, sazsun hera duoder; suma hapt heptidun, suma heri lezidun, suma clubodun umbi cuoniouuidi: insprinc haptbandun, inar uigandun
Not sure if i got it right from memory
couldve been cuuoniouidi
plain mountain
worthy robin
rare bluff
lol
can't wit till we colonise mars and te colony rebels and tries conquering earth
rare bluff
about to luanch
flint swallow
Anyone have the PRESS discord?
drifting heath
Wasn't PRESS and Press Corps the same`?
flint swallow
I think it is. Idk tho
sleek wolf
@dense saffron i see you also have minecraft dungeons
scenic thunder
lunar lava
what a chad
scenic thunder
no he a douglas
dense reef
here we g000000
sleek wolf
another launch for America 🇺🇸
dense reef
its nice to see the americans moving forward again. seemed like a big step back when they got rid of their shuttle.
plus they need to deploy space america on the moon and mars before the russians / chinese do.
sleek wolf
we always move forward
dense reef
the astronaughts look bored.
sleek wolf
so what was the goal of the mission
dense reef
i think they just goin to the ISS
sleek wolf
i thought they were testing the auto land
dense reef
i want to see the rocket land
sleek wolf
that spacex was working on
dense reef
they tested it a bunch a year or so back
cerulean fulcrum
They're going to ISS.
sleek wolf
i know
dense reef
landing it on a barge in the ocean
pulsar osprey
Holy shit the falcon landed
sleek wolf
NOOO
scenic thunder
the cabin camera looks so fake man
sleek wolf
lmao sparklesaur
scenic thunder
like a bad scifi tv show set
sleek wolf
its real
scenic thunder
what if the meteor yeeted some dinosaur to space
sleek wolf
they are forzen
scenic thunder
also this should be about the time one astronaut pulls out a gun and says it always was
sleek wolf
nasa can handle it
i think it was apollo 13 when we tried going back to the moon
18?
atomic meteor
? Apollo 13 was not the last time we tried to go to the moon
It was our third attempt, and after 13 we went 4 more times, Apollo 14 15 16 17
sleek wolf
i have brainfarts
ebon walrus
Lmao america
woven scarab
It looked great
Was busy watching a different show, so I caught the livestream on my phone
ngl, the space suits look kinda futuristic
woven scarab
atomic meteor
wtf am i looking at
woven scarab
Hell if I know, I was looking for Ohio memes
scenic thunder
ornate edge
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karmic ether
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paper timber
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sleek wolf
ornate edge
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sleek wolf
Morse code?
paper timber
ornate edge
-.-- . ...
dense saffron
@sleek wolf you got minecraft dungeons too?
sleek wolf
fuck
but
the controller sucks for it ngl
i tried playing with controller and i died like instantly
but with mouse and keyboard it just feels right
karmic ether
karmic ether
drifting aurora
Woah
karmic ether
riots are close to me thats fun
drifting aurora
In Minneapolis??
topaz hedge
I feel bad for you
As do I feel bad for all the competent people who live in America
ebon walrus
its really disappointing when you are trying to show the world that you arent a stupid country and then this happens
sleek wolf
nothing as bad as what happens to other countries
topaz hedge
We have our own worse cases
I heard that in Sydney, there was a protest against vaccination and that the coronavirus was fake
karmic ether
bruh
topaz hedge
Same thing in Brisbane and Melbourne
ebon walrus
lmao Michigan moment
topaz hedge
At least 500 people in Sydney from what my Dad told me
neat holly
Chicago resident checking in: Shits fucked. Purge is trending, the cops are stretched enough that 3 of the local banks just got robbed and nobody came, and people are just straight up shooting each other out here. Fuck michigan, Help ME! Fuckers trying to burn down the building!
lament bough
Ugh, my mom's being extra racist right now.
lament bough
@karmic ether Yeah, she's not a nice person.
near jewel
It's nice to know that shit is getting bad all over the world.
oak anchor
Yea michigan outside of what u see on tv is actually fine. The amount of people in the suburbs and country with guns means the rioters cant go anywhere but to destroy their own communities
edgy siren
charred atlas
sleek wolf
@neat holly do you have a gun
If so defend yourself
If not buy one
Then buy a shit ton of tounds
Rounds*
neat holly
Don't own a gun, and I don't have my foid card renewed, so I can't buy one.
neat holly
Thanks. Best of luck to you, too.
sleek wolf
olive thicket
@neat holly did they not call in the national guard
olive thicket
He says that it is out of control
sleek wolf
to the government it not must be
olive thicket
Wait yes they did call in the Guard
cerulean fulcrum
I again, won't be shocked, if Marshal law gets called national wise
olive thicket
Hmmm yes let’s let everyone fend for themselves
I hate people that get offended when the national guard gets called in to deal with unsafe situations
“Oh, people are losing their lives? But my feelings! I don’t like camouflage!”
olive thicket
What is FFOD
karmic ether
i think that person is talking more about solving the underlying systemic issues with america rather than the immediate problems
olive thicket
“Chicago doesn’t need the National Guard”
sleek wolf
free fod
olive thicket
What is FOD
sleek wolf
this place
and free fod
is where all the "activist" go in FOD aka the muted and banned people
olive thicket
But what does FOD mean
sleek wolf
foxhole official discord
olive thicket
Oh
sleek wolf
if they dont like you
they will just call you a bootlicker and just insult you
and try to low tier bait you
like @solid lintel is doing
horrible place to go
so i would urge you not to go
as it is also filled with wardens
who ironically claim they arent racist
you have people like @karmic ether who claim they are good people
but that is not the case
karmic ether
how am i not a good person
sleek wolf
not what i meant
i meant you would claim people like pickled is a good person
which is not the case
olive thicket
How does one ironically claim that they are not racist
solid lintel
You want an example of people claiming to not be racist but are? @olive thicket
sleek wolf
he is gonna post something out of context
ebon walrus
olive thicket
He said “ironically”
sleek wolf
unironically
solid lintel
Yes how is that out of context lel
olive thicket
He said “ironically”
sleek wolf
@solid lintel never mind 👀
solid lintel
olive thicket
Also how did we get to this topic I was talking about people protesting the national guard being called in to keep them alive
sleek wolf
just me
olive thicket
I was going to say I hate this country but then I realized that’s not true. I hate the idiots in this country
olive thicket
The idiots that make up the vocal minority and make life hell for the rest of us
sleek wolf
like the rioters
olive thicket
Yes like the rioters
Fun fact the cop they’re all protesting against was arrested before the riots even started
And is being charged with murder in the second degree
In other words shut the fuck up and stop killing people
solid lintel
I mean they have plenty to riot over, it’s about continued police brutality not one off instances
short berry
The protest have become so much more than a murder
olive thicket
Police brutality is largely over exaggerated
Oh boy it’s big controversy time now
Remember to stay civil everyone
Including me
paper timber
just because this one officer has been arrested doesn't mean anything is going to change, and these riots are a reflection of that sentiment
there are dickheads looting and burning random places but they're just dickheads
short berry
Ove exaggerated. Every few months someone black dies unjustly due to policy brutality
olive thicket
Police brutality is largely over exaggerated and a result of people taking anecdotes rather than the full story
@short berry Watch some videos by DonutOperator. They’ll change your entire view of the issue
short berry
Nah
olive thicket
I guarantee it
paper timber
even if it was 1 unjust killing a year, and 1 incident of an abuse of power, it would still be too much
olive thicket
That is correct but rioting and blaming the establishment as a whole is not correct
paper timber
This is the problem - when the people riot, they're told to be peaceful
short berry
The us needs higher standards for its police force
paper timber
and when they're peaceful, they're told to shut up and just vote
nothing ever changes and this is the only way that something ever possibly could change
olive thicket
@short berry they already go through an entire academy. Upgrading their training even more would be extremely expensive and while I wouldn’t be opposed to it, people would complain about higher taxes
short berry
But mah taxes
olive thicket
@paper timber by getting tear gassed for rioting?
@short berry unfortunately that is the reality
paper timber
yes, I suppose
short berry
Stop using stupid arguments. Tske a lil od the military spending that wasted billions each year and you get the same result
olive thicket
That is correct. Do you want the police to go through military-style training because a lot of people wouldn’t want that
short berry
No
olive thicket
Also most of the spending is on equipment not training
short berry
I didnt say that
olive thicket
Based on the current degree of training in most areas that is what a higher latitude of training would entail
sleek wolf
at least this server is more civil
olive thicket
^
paper timber
@olive thicket there is a difference between taking some of the funding from the bloated unnecessarily large military and giving literal military training
short berry
The us always tries to reinvent the wheel. You have a perfectly fine country right across the northern border, and several highly trained police forces across the atlantic
paper timber
I feel like FFOD, as fucking horrendous as it is, is the same principle as these riots
olive thicket
I disagree about “unnecessarily large” but true
sleek wolf
@paper timber i agree
paper timber
in proportion to the rest of the US' expenditure it's unnecessarily large
short berry
Ffod is horrible discord tht only strokes the ego of a few toxic players imho
paper timber
but it was founded on the same ideas as the riots
olive thicket
What was
paper timber
FFOD
all the people who wanted change left and the only ones who remain are the dickheads looting and burning shit
short berry
Nah
sleek wolf
the people were just plain idiots
short berry
It was because of the mess of jade cove
I was there when cobble, i and the wns leader tried to mediate the issue
olive thicket
And then there’s the people getting mad when the national guard gets called in
sleek wolf
yes and the wardens tore your ass a new hole remlly
short berry
Because the devs where hands off and we wherr muzzled in 30 second slowmode on fod
I was still mod then and its one of the reasons i resigned
Nowadays ffod just serves to stroke a cyberbully kfc out of his job ego.
It doesnt deserve the name free fod
cerulean fulcrum
What is FFOD?
short berry
Bad comparison
Its not even a rioting place. Its just a toxic place for kfc and modman haters
sleek wolf
its founded by former mod supporters and the likes
neat holly
Chicago checking back in: I just saw some of the local latino gangbangers join up with police to stop a raid on the local shopping center where the grocery store is. Saw someone go down. Rioters flared back up, and im hearing tell of officers getting taken off the leash from lightfoot's office. Shits getting to real out here. Im fuckin off to the burbs for a few days.
sleek wolf
yes stay safe fellow American
but serious?
gang members helping police?
this is pretty much FFOD
short berry
Oof
sleek wolf
go any deeper and i could get muted here
neat holly
@sleek wolf Dead ass. It was sorta rad actually. Usually those guys dont do much else other than fistfight eachother and loiter outside the shops, but theyve got a good sense of community. When the looters showed up they went to work being all intimidating and fighting a few while the cops trickled in. Saw a couple of arrests and someone went down. Dont know if they're dead or not, but im pretty sure it was just rubbers.
neat holly
I though it was! Someone was shooting off those fucking firework mortars last night, and i swear to god that shit nearly burned down the buildings
olive thicket
@neat holly the national guard was deployed to Chicago a few hours ago
ebon walrus
damn
neat holly
And that, right there, is my signal to fuck off to the burbs. if the guard is here, there is gonna be some seeeerious resentment, and i dont wanna be caught in the crossfire when someone gets uppity and decides to burn my workplace down.
ebon walrus
good luck o7
olive thicket
@neat holly get your ID renewed and buy a gun
short berry
if you want to get shot. dont buy a gun
sleek wolf
buy a gun @neat holly
short berry
especially if you dont know how to handle one. dont buy a gun.
ebon walrus
buy a 40mm nade launcher and get some bean bags lol
sleek wolf
if your American buy a gun because we have rights
short berry
when push comes to shove, americans wont use their guns
ebon walrus
yeah but if you are waving around a pistol then the other person is gonna wave around their pistol too
ebon walrus
best to de escalate OR use massive retaliation
short berry
and if they do. they're easily outmatched because at best it will be a local militia
that guy was not prepared to use a gun
neat holly
they stole the police radio. Some prepper in the crowd was able to get the programing and game it out
short berry
he didnt even fucking know how to hold it
he wouldve got shot if it wasnt for the security guard
neat holly
Airsofters, you know it
ebon walrus
lol
neat holly
who the hell else has baufengs
pseudo zealot
looking for [one] discord
olive thicket
short berry
you gotta be a special kind of stupid or have an agenda to believe looters want an end to racism
or both 
olive thicket
Easy solution: Trigger the air raid sirens in the areas with looting
short berry
whats that going to solve? more panic at best.
air raid sirens are for air raids for a reason.
olive thicket
They’d leave
short berry
nah
wise torrent
nooo not the hecking corporations they need them tvs
karmic ether
Less talking more raiding
drowsy cipher
drifting heath
You must have a very special penis…
sleek wolf
drowsy cipher
o.0
fair raptor
karmic ether
sleek wolf
astral bane
hmmmm
sleek wolf
sexy
fierce swan
something doesn't seem right
cerulean fulcrum
Wait a moment
shrewd flume
t
karmic ether
t
sleek wolf
wise torrent
ebon walrus
bruh
neat lichen
lol
olive thicket
@sleek wolf yes
sleek wolf
@ mods who keeps moving the channels
cerulean fulcrum
Tldr; dont go infantry. Do engineering or something
mental flare
well where I'm going its gonna go intelligence
sleek wolf
@cerulean fulcrum actually, my grandpa worked on intelligence as a radio man in germany
he also was a tanker
mental flare
radioman in tank?
sleek wolf
no
but he told me a story about a tank they lost
it was one of our big tank destroyers
mental flare
a loader?
sleek wolf
and it got stolen
mental flare
wot
mental flare
oof
sleek wolf
he also worked with special forces
but that was forced upon him
he did get down and dirty and fought
mental flare
well someone who is working in intel section would be seeing some SF work
lean turret
Did he do logi too?
sleek wolf
YES
mental flare
so he's an intel person generally?
lean turret
Fueled mines? Scrapped?
sleek wolf
he was taking out stuff from his base
and in the middle of he road was a foxhole
a vietcong was in it
lean turret
Ah, so he was a griefer
sleek wolf
so he bailed out and only had his pistol
he had someone else with him
for 8 hours i think he said it was a stalemate
he eventually ran to his truck and grabbed his rifle
mental flare
that's a long stalemate
mental flare
the VC could've run away
mental flare
welp if he did get shot he deserved it
sleek wolf
he is still hiding things
he has a box or something containing stuff he is hiding
he also has stories he wont tell
mental flare
well people who was in Nam hide things, that is normal he don't want to tell disturbing things
mental flare
probably don't want her to stress the thing that has passed
Nam was hell they say, I wouldn't want to know what it was like
sleek wolf
he almost shed a tear when telling stories
you could hear him choke up and almost shed a tear
mental flare
would you go to the military?
mental flare
oh, nice
sleek wolf
and @umbral raft couldnt finish bootcamp because of the virus
umbral raft
^
mental flare
oof
umbral raft
Still waiting to go back
sleek wolf
f
mental flare
yeah my cousin couldn't go back home because of this virus too
sleek wolf
the Marine corps however is still having bootcamp
sleek wolf
i am he is canadian
mental flare
oh, well hope you're safe from these times
sleek wolf
riots are happening in the city next to me
umbral raft
Canada is pretty ez pz
sleek wolf
apparently riots are supposed to happen in my city soon but i doubt it
my city 2 days ago had a peaceful protest
sleek wolf
it is work week
mental flare
nah hopefully not mate, don't think it'll be that peaceful, just look at other cities
sleek wolf
my dad is in seattle working rn
lean turret
Seattle's calming down
You mean no loot left?
mental flare
ahahah that's just rude
lean turret
I love how bunch of looters arrived at shop, went to steal and instantly had car yoinked
true salmon
One of the looters up here took an entire cake
lean turret
Or some retard stole ATM and was angry at bus driver not letting him in
mental flare
you got something to defend yourself?
true salmon
And just walked through the entire riot with it held out in front of them
true salmon
Yeah that was seattle
neat lichen
true salmon
calmly walks off with cheesecake
neat lichen
it's just too funny
sleek wolf
raven scroll
escape from target
sleek wolf
this was in seattle
true salmon
But yeah it's calmed down
sleek wolf
brave man
lean turret
Unclear 
sleek wolf
stole that gun back
true salmon
It'll probably heat back up again this coming weekend
true salmon
Yeah, that's also a possibility
true salmon
Honestly that's not a good thing in Seattle
lean turret
Stealing: 100%
neat lichen
i have a weird sleep schedule now i wake up at 5 am now so i get to see the fun parts of all this live
true salmon
Because that will make the police automatically distrust him
sleek wolf
he is a worker/supervisor for rhine demolition
he has is concealed weapons permit
he can also open carry
atomic meteor
The man himself, Floyd's body is coming to Houston Wednesday for his funeral. Theres' a huge march planned. HPD has done a pretty damn good job so far, Houston hasn't seen any fires or tear gas, and very minimal looting and vandalism. I really hope things don't get crazy I live too close to it all lol.
knotty lotus
He protecc
He attacc
But most importantly
Police shoot him in back
atomic meteor
What are the self defence laws in Seattle though? Is it Castle Doctrine, Stand your Ground, or Duty to Retreat? @sleek wolf
atomic meteor
It's very important to know that. Otherwise he could go to jail for defending himself in certain situatons.
sleek wolf
stand your ground
true salmon
It's complicated
sleek wolf
its something
atomic meteor
Really? In Seattle? I'm surprised to hear that.
true salmon
You are allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself
mental flare
what's duty or retreat sounds like? sorry not an US citizen
true salmon
It's Washington wide @atomic meteor
sleek wolf
my friend said they are supposed to start rioting/protesting in tacoma today
true salmon
@mental flare Duty to retreat means you should not protect yourself and instead retreat from the situation to prevent harm to another
true salmon
@atomic meteor Washington generally is you are allowed to use reasonable force, but the state courts have been known to fuck people in the ass who did that
mental flare
while stand your ground means you can defend yourself?
sleek wolf
any means necessary
true salmon
@mental flare Yes
atomic meteor
Duty to retreat means you are required to run away from a deadly situation, even if that means abandoning your property. You may only use deadly force if you cannot reasonably retreat safely. @mental flare
mental flare
well new thing learned
sleek wolf
your supposed to yell at them to leave
atomic meteor
Yes, Stand your Ground means you can defend yourself if your life is threatened even if you could theoretically safely retreat @mental flare
sleek wolf
and if they dont leave your house and you feel threatened
mental flare
castle doctrine is defending our property is that right?
sleek wolf
you can then proceed to do the harm
atomic meteor
Things differ if it's your property that's threatened, instead of your life.
sleek wolf
shoot to kill
atomic meteor
Depending on the area.
mental flare
aight
true salmon
Castle doctrine is that you can use lethal force to protect your property
sleek wolf
never shoot to injure
sleek wolf
listen both are in danger icanaree
mental flare
well that explains
sleek wolf
my house and my life are the same
atomic meteor
@mental flare Castle doctrine means you pretty much have free reign to defend yourself with whatever force neccesary, when someone is inside your home
mental flare
is the castle doctrine allowed in most county?
true salmon
Eh
sleek wolf
I own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" I scream as I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and accidentaly nail the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
atomic meteor
@sleek wolf I'm sorry but that won't hold up in court. Be careful.
true salmon
^
sleek wolf
: ( i know
true salmon
Especially not a Washington court
atomic meteor
@mental flare Not at all. It's something you need to learn if you want to be prepared.
mental flare
damn US is scary
true salmon
If you're ever going to defend yourself with a weapon in Washington you need to follow the law to. the. letter. or get a REALLY expensive lawyer.
mental flare
you can defend yourself but you can also go to jail because of it
atomic meteor
For instance, in the UK It's illegal to own any object whatsoever if the intent is to use it to defend yourself. Could be a gun, a stick, rebar, even a plastic bat. A homeowner has recently found guilty of murder for defending himself with the enemy's weapon in his own home in the british countryside.
mental flare
oof
still plaza
if you got a gun
atomic meteor
Legally speaking, there is no "shoot to wound"
still plaza
you should also be able to shoot their arm or smth
lean turret
Meanwhile poland: Duty to retreat your castle
still plaza
not fucking blind fire
mental flare
here in my country you're at least allowed to use the invader's weapon to defend yourself
atomic meteor
If you use a firearm, to defend yourself, it is shoot to kill 100% of the time. Legally speaking and reality speaking.
knotty lotus
You can own self defence spray in the UK, the stuff that leaves an indelible mark on people
atomic meteor
@still plaza That is impossible. It only happens in movies.
mental flare
hell before that happens they would be beaten to death
still plaza
you mean shot someone in arm?
atomic meteor
Even trained police officers and swat are incapable of being accurate enough to "shoot to wound"
Yes.
still plaza
wat
atomic meteor
Shooting to wound is a complete myth.
mental flare
you won't shoot to wound
knotty lotus
Shooting in the limbs is really dangerous
atomic meteor
If someone survives being shot, it's basically complete luck.
mental flare
not all the times
knotty lotus
Huge chance of hitting an artery
still plaza
well i dont really know much about guns /shrug
atomic meteor
Yes, exactly. Even shooting to wound can kill someone if it bursts an artery, you can bleed out in less than a minute and you can't stop that bleeding even with a tourniquet @still plaza
lean turret
Shoot to wound needs proper weapon too
true salmon
Limbs are dangerous to shoot, as well as the fact that they're really hard to shoot and you're more likely to hit someone who's innocent
Just think about it -- 24ish inch wide chest, or 4ish inch wide arm
atomic meteor
That's why nobody trains to get "headshots" in the real world. It's center mass all the time.
lean turret
Someone that want to stab you might not even feel being hit and bleeding out
true salmon
That's why if the person has a knife and you have a gun you run the fuck away unless you're like 30ft from them
atomic meteor
Thus, why followup shots are important. And why Police magdump into people, as horrible as it is.
sleek wolf
you can brush off a stab wound but a gun wound is more fatal
true salmon
Eh, depends on the knife
lean turret
Some ppl had whole clip emptied into them
sleek wolf
bowie knife
true salmon
Yes, this is why you never want to get close to someone with a knife
lean turret
Guess when they realized they are dying
lean turret
Thus, why followup shots are important. And why Police magdump into people, as horrible as it is.
Ez solution, give bigger guns
atomic meteor
It's because if the police fire, even if it's just one shot, they're shooting to kill. And if they're shooting to kill, they need to kill them quickly enough to stop them from killing them back.
See, it's easy to kill someone with a gun, but it's very hard to kill them right now, before they have a chance to shoot back. On average it takes anywhere from 30 sec to a few minutes.
So, if police open fire, they keep shooting until the person stops, every time.
The focus should be on stopping the police from choosing to shoot, not on making them shoot less, in this specific regard.
cerulean fulcrum
What
true salmon
The media focus on how many shots are fired has always confused me
atomic meteor
Anyway, my point is: Know what your self defense laws are for your area.
Know your target and what's behind it.
Know your weapon and how to make it safe.
And most of all, make sure you can live with your decision once you make it.
lean turret
What you mean, driving car into them then going full "WTF YOU SHOT ME" is bad idea?
true salmon
Again, people don't die instantly
atomic meteor
Hollywood is not real life.
You will have to sleep with your decision for the rest of your life. Even if he's trying to rob or kill you, I guarantee you'll see his face and hear his screams every night. Everyone's got a mother.
cerulean fulcrum
It depends where you shoot them and the cal
Yeah, okay I've been shot at before.
atomic meteor
Right. So don't take it lightly. Have respect for the responsibility you take in your hands.
Know your laws so you don't fuck yourself over.
And make the right choices.
atomic meteor
I don't think those people are interested in conversations about legal self defense on gamer discords, so . . . . . 👀
sleek wolf
you can say you can handle killing a man
cerulean fulcrum
I stand by my statement
sleek wolf
but when the time comes you may stutter
lean turret
You never know 
cerulean fulcrum
Drop them before they drop you
plain mountain
pulling the trigger is easy, living with the consequences is not
sleek wolf
^
atomic meteor
Not saying it's wrong to defend yourself. Quite the opposite, actually. Just make sure you don't make a mistake you can't live with.
People accidentally killed friends and family all the time because they thought they were home intruders at 2 AM. A dude killed his granddaughter when she was getting a glass of water when I was like 10 in my State. You gotta use your best judgement and not let fear control your decision making.
Guns blazing, hollywood style, john wick shit just doesn't exist. And it isn't grounded in reality.
neat lichen
@atomic meteor fuck dude thats rough
atomic meteor
Yes, he went through training to shoot at targets. Not people. He never killed anyone.
sleek wolf
but the way they handle the guns are
atomic meteor
That's what I'm saying.
still plaza
ok it's completly not fitting the mood, but i just read a article in polish, saying that there's a right wing group in USA, called "Boogaloo" that aims to cause another civil war
neat lichen
thats super tragic
true salmon
It happens pretty often in the US
atomic meteor
Kanye West wasn't handling guns to defend himself, or even to kill people, he's doing it to look cool. That's my point. Don't have that in your head if you need to defend yourself.
Yeah, you have to give respect to the power you hold or you'll fuck up lives.
neat lichen
with our gun laws the way we are suposed to keep them it's not really viable as self defese 😄
plain mountain
I'm soft-hearted by nature, killing predators before they kill our animals is hard enough for me to do. if I have to defend myself by killing another person, I'll do it, but I would likely not be the same person after.
still plaza
would be worse if nothing happened to you after killing someone
atomic meteor
Yeah, in my opinion Gun laws are only part of the equation. If you can't legally defend yourself, there's not much point in fighting for the right.
for sure ^
that's a good point
cerulean fulcrum
I assume no one here has ever killed anyone
atomic meteor
Not yet, hopefully not ever. Certainly not planning to.
sleek wolf
not yet no
still plaza
We're all playing foxhole tho
lean turret
Directly or indirectly?
still plaza
that's pretty close to losing sanity
sleek wolf
but i may in the future as i am joining the military @cerulean fulcrum
atomic meteor
IKR? We play super violent games with war crimes and shit lol
yeah. just interesting the disconnect we make in our brains.
sleek wolf
i may not kill people
lean turret
You play for combat or killing tho
sleek wolf
as my job i had ( artillery ) is getting severely cut
so i may get sent to bootcamp as a supply man
lean turret
Pulling trigger is easy cuz they are so sensitive
plain mountain
@atomic meteor hehe warcrime air go psshhh
cerulean fulcrum
Lmao
lean turret
Who are you 
lean turret
Another spambot
lean turret
Why not both 
plain mountain
too tired to be thinking about shooting anyways
if it happens it happens, no use philosiphying about it in the meantime
sleek wolf
im just waiting for riots to start in tacoma so i can stay home even longer
atomic meteor
I wonder when's the point we can defnintively say "Yes, it's never been this bad before"
dense reef
Manic!
atomic meteor
the 60s were really bad for sure.
atomic meteor
From riots? 🤔
kind birch
Meh Kent State.
atomic meteor
I specifically mean the unrest rn lol
plain mountain
only if it gets to the point where states break off and we have a civil war 2 electric boogaloo @atomic meteor
atomic meteor
Yeah. I feel like people are getting really close to just throwing molotovs at the white house. Did that ever happen in the 60s?
sleek wolf
if the rioters get bad enough and start taking over the capitals
and start literally trying to kill people
atomic meteor
They set the Kentuckey capitol building on fire . . .
sleek wolf
bruh really?
atomic meteor
didn't go very far. But yeah.
sleek wolf
damn
true salmon
Wow
sleek wolf
this wont be enough to cause a civil war though
dense reef
i wonder what the change they looking for is gonna be
atomic meteor
Didn't burn much but an attached cafe or something but yea. still.
plain mountain
can we blame it on the canadians again if the white house is set on fire
sleek wolf
yes
dense reef
if they manage to get anything to change that is
atomic meteor
The root cause is there's not sufficient accountability for Police brutality, which is disproportionately used on minorities and poor.
IDK what the exact solution to that is.
true salmon
There's pretty much no accountability
neat lichen
i dont think i could do it, i have no problems killing animals as i see it as utility thing, it's food but i cant even imagine justifying killing a person
atomic meteor
Thing is, it's not hellisn 1984-ish everywhere, some police departments are pretty good. But the worst are just as bad as the 60s and havent changed.
dense reef
in the UK the police always refer themselves to the IPCC. maybe america needs a similiar organization
dense reef
3rd party body that examins police use of force and stuff.
neat lichen
oh sorry i had not scrolled
atomic meteor
Yeah. People don't realize how weak the US Federal government really is, it would be a stretch of power to create a precedent for federal oversight of police forces. They might not legally have the power to mandate police procedure/training, just reccomend it.
dense reef
does seem that over in yankee the police can do more or less whatever they like. manic
neat lichen
they have phycological evaluations and 2 years of training for anyone joining police here
still plaza
the worst part is if they start witch hunting ATIFA
true salmon
They can't
sleek wolf
ANTIFA is a terrorist organization now
true salmon
Feds have no legal basis to declare a domestic group a terrorist organization
dense reef
well Antifa is just a band of thugs.
atomic meteor
I think the issue is also that people can't elect the people responsible for this. All the important positions are appointed by someone else . . . police chief, FBI head, ect.
sleek wolf
antifa have been known to cause a lot of violence while trying to be anti violence lmao
atomic meteor
Best people can do is elect new county officials and District Attorneys, but nobody pays attention to those.
true salmon
Oh also police unions can go fuck themselves
dense reef
they've more than proven that in recent times. so im not surprised they are getting targeted by the government now
atomic meteor
LOL Antifa is not anti violence. They're anti fascist, it's in the name lol
sleek wolf
ehh
true salmon
Antifa is perfectly fine using violence to end fascists.
dense reef
yea but to antifa anyone who doesn't agree with them is a facist.
sleek wolf
i know it is
neat lichen
lol
dense reef
just look at that journalist they nearly killed.
sleek wolf
i just was typing while not looking
plain mountain
antifa are so anti fascist they go right back around into being fascist
atomic meteor
Debatable, but I know what you mean. I don't think they're as effective at being anti fascist as they think they are.
dense reef
andy no or something
still plaza
I dont like ATIFA, but since it has not much of a structure, hunting them would be like witch hunt
still plaza
@sleek wolf you gotta get better m8
sleek wolf
and i type pretty fast while doing it
still plaza
the days are coming
dense reef
i wouldnt mind Antifa is they actually targeted facists. but instead they just go after anyone with a conservative opinion.
still plaza
the days when the more you can write the smarter you look
sleek wolf
i tried to learn 2 handed
dense reef
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sleek wolf
but it just felt so uncomfortable
still plaza
bruh
neat lichen
what is the end goal of conservatives 
sleek wolf
im so used to typing with 1 finger per hand
dense reef
to make everything boring.
still plaza
who cares about end goals
dense reef
true salmon
@atomic meteor Main issue up here in seattle is that they can't get enough recruits (unsurprisingly, it's seattle), and the other issue is that the police union protects and encourages every single time there's excessive force used
Oh and our police are highly racist
dense reef
i think its dangerous to brand the police racist.
sleek wolf
bruh seattle police are wack
dense reef
just look at what happened in rotheram in the UK.
plain mountain
the political situation in the US is pretty knackered tbh. can't have centrist, conservative, or liberal opinions with eachother, you have to be ONE or the OTHER and if you aren't then you're a dirty outlier and you shouldn't vote because you're worse than garbage
sleek wolf
at least you arent federal way police
true salmon
@dense reef The thing is, Seattle police has been proven to be racist.
atomic meteor
Dismantle government oversight of the economy (to please capitalists, upper middle class and ultra rich), while increasing government oversight of society (to please evangelicals) @neat lichen . Those are the two main voting blocs of the conservative party.
true salmon
Their own data shows it, it's great.
neat lichen
@plain mountain we dont do nuance this is internet
true salmon
The people aren't racist, but as an institution? Highly racist.
atomic meteor
Nixon's culture wars have fucking ruined us, imo.
dense reef
over here thousands of kids were groomed and raped, police knew about it but were afraid of being called racists so they ignored it. i think saying your law enforcement is racist is only gonna lead to them being afraid to enforce the law against certain minority groups. no good will come from it!
true salmon
They aren't afraid to push against minorities
plain mountain
@neat lichen god fucking tell me about it, twitter is, as much as I hate the term, an actual clownfest. people don't understand the concept of looking at both sides and being for one thing and another thing at the same time. you're with us or against us!!!!! like fuck off
dense reef
well not yet.
atomic meteor
Every single issue has become tribal. Every single buisness has become tribal. Even your opinions on fucking bathrooms have become a way to wave your flag and burn the other guy's.
neat lichen
i refuse to use twitter
dense reef
but if they ever did become afraid. you'd see problems like we've had here
neat lichen
it's a mess
true salmon
We just see the opposite.
atomic meteor
It's impossible to have meaningful dialouge when the system is so hyper polarized.
dense reef
although in america politics is so race based its sad.
atomic meteor
*America is race based
true salmon
^ It's not mainly political
atomic meteor
First slaves were brought to the US only a few years after the mayflower.
true salmon
It's every single institution
atomic meteor
Race issues have haunted us since the very beginning.
dense reef
and your politicians are guilty of playing racial politics too. but idk how you'd deal with that. it seems to engrained in american political culture.
plain mountain
burn everything and start from the ground up
neat lichen
i mean i get it here the whole voting is based on are you pro russia or west first and then everything else you stand for
atomic meteor
Debatable. Slaves were brought to America before he was freed, he might've been the first to have a large amount of slaves for the purpose of cash crops.
It's irrelevant, since the slave trade was in full swing and plantations were already in operation in the Caribbean.
plain mountain
honestly though. sweeping reforms are needed, but the political climate is so rooted in its own ass it'd be hard to pry the politicians off their golden goose without just cutting it all down and starting over
true salmon
^
neat lichen
it's insane what type of things are turned into partisan issue in us
atomic meteor
yeah. I don't know a single politician I'd trust to fix this shit. The flaws are too deep. Especially since Citizens United.
@neat lichen That's by design.
true salmon
There are no trustworthy politicians
sleek wolf
ted cruz
true salmon
All of them can go fuck themselves