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robust ibex
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that as your argument , or what?

robust ibex
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I see , when you cant defend your opinion you can use gifs , I clap for you

willow moon
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LMAO

charred vigil
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did you know
because of people like you
we had so much shit nerfed

willow moon
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See, my point is, tanks are gay

charred vigil
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because you imbeciles can't even coordinate for once

robust ibex
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well tanks are way to strong , because everything is nerfed

willow moon
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tanks cost 140 rmats each you see

charred vigil
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and petrol

robust ibex
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wow

willow moon
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and gets disable in 3 rpg shots

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to the front

charred vigil
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meanwhile the RPG is almost like free money

robust ibex
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and 1 tank can control field and use ammo for inf , because it is blanced as shit

charred vigil
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which tank exactly
BT or LT

willow moon
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one tank controls what hahaha

charred vigil
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the petrol shortage julianlol

robust ibex
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one tank controls what hahaha
@willow moon Mental maybe play game instead of siting in discord and being mental

willow moon
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wow now you switch to insult

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where is that guy talking of points of arguement

robust ibex
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I can't respect anyone who thinks tanks are balanced, sorry , not with how game is now

charred vigil
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imagine responding to gifs

willow moon
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I bet you are a warden that explains everything

charred vigil
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and then saying "sry, I can't respect anyone in this discord"

robust ibex
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I bet you are a warden that explains every thing
@willow moon I am not warden , or col I switch not sure of your point

willow moon
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damn it

charred vigil
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if you can't even be sure of his point
damn son
have you tried thinking

willow moon
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Me personally, I hate tanks

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I mean

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I love tanks but not those in foxholes

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tank that shots once and run? thats not a tank

charred vigil
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it's a SPG

willow moon
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its a shell ejaculator

charred vigil
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and yes, people are using tanks like RPG dispensers

willow moon
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I mean... its almost sad that tanks are gay...

robust ibex
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I have, not your strong side it seems, tank can take on anything, there are literally no downsides to it besides petrol, even that is nto really a problem, inf , buildings, survivability, costs

robust ibex
willow moon
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I cant tell if you re trolling or not

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Anyway I want to see a true tank

charred vigil
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Downsides :
Locks personel to a vehicle
Extremely vulnerable to coordinated attacks
Gets fucked by Concrete defenses or well designed sandbag + trap layouts
Petrol

drifting heath
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Have you tried your Regulars magic on him? @ebon walrus

charred vigil
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don't use trenches against tanks, that's just dumb

willow moon
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dont forget a single infantry with sticky can our run turrets turn rate

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and 3 sticks go boom

robust ibex
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I cant tell if you re trolling or not
@willow moon can you be specific , or that's how you make your points "I have no clue what to say , so I will pretend I have ground to stand on"

ebon walrus
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@drifting heath hes clean

willow moon
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ok he is trolling

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I hope

charred vigil
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@robust ibex I will call you out on this one
You sir are fucking retarded and this game would be better off without you
Low pop is better than retard pop

drifting heath
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Some people are just delusional. Leave them be

robust ibex
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dont forget a single infantry with sticky can our run turrets turn rate
@willow moon ok show me how you do it efficiently and how making them will be more efficient then using tanks, or at this point I am not sure why you even need stickies , just for lols

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well, it is nice to have discussion with people who are so sure they are right ,but cant give any reasons why they are right, just shows lvel of development I am dealing with

willow moon
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I mean purerogue

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we are of same kind

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we both hate tanks as it is now

robust ibex
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that's good , because anyone with at least 1 brain cell should understand that they are to strong and have almost no downsides, but I also understand that your point is to make other things stronger , I am just addressing issue

willow moon
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I want to see a tank carrying weight, a tank with magnitude, I want blitzkrieg, I want to see its magnificent cannon tearing enemy position

robust ibex
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I want to see a tank carrying weight, a tank with magnitude, I want blitzkrieg, I want to see its magnificent cannon tearing enemy position
@willow moon they already are , they have insane range , insane accuracy , insane damage, even area damege

willow moon
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well

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just curious

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a sniper rifle has superior range, accuracy and one shot kill inf. whats your thought on that?

robust ibex
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does anyone even use he anymore, they seem to be more like decoration

willow moon
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I started to like this guy

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wanna be friends?

robust ibex
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a sniper rifle has superior range, accuracy and one shot kill inf. whats your thought on that?
@willow moon my thought are that you are full of shit, it is not that easy to land shoot with it, at least from what I have read from people who seem to had more experience then discord and it clearly takes more time to get shoot

willow moon
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just one more question

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if you are to choose from 5 crates of rpg and shells vs a tank whats your pick?

robust ibex
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I am not sure what I can do with shells vs tank, your question makes no sense

willow moon
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well pls read again, I really wanna know your heart's direction

shrewd flume
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Why are you guys talking about foxhole in general discussion and not foxhole discussion?

willow moon
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it doesnt matter now. this is gorgeous

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Im already feeling genuine connection with this man

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And if you are willing to talk more pls feel free to dm me

robust ibex
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ohhh, what I would pick rpg , or tank, clearly tank, it can influence battlefield way more then rpg, it is not like you never have rpgs vs tanks, they are good and they are good vs structures , but it is way harder to advance with them

willow moon
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Aha... I think i started to see what makes you hate tanks

robust ibex
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did you?

willow moon
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yeah... tanks are rpgs but cant be killed with small arm and is mobile

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so tanks are superior to rpgs

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am i getting this?

robust ibex
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anything can kill guy with rpg, tank can be killed with basically only rpg, tank has huge range, insane accuracy , area damage, huge structure damage, way more ammo capacity and for some odd reason it can also shoot things that are over ts high as well

willow moon
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yeah, would you care to tell me the specific incident that made you come to realize this? that the tanks are a problem to this game?

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can you describe it to me?

robust ibex
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Stop over exaggerating, I am just saying that they need some tooning, tank should have downsides, it is way cost efficient with perks it has, sorry if you can waste ammo on inf and have all the things it has there is something wrong

willow moon
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I swear exaggerating wasnt my intention I am sorry

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I just wanted to know if there was a moment of insight

charred vigil
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tanks become very useless the moment they are up against an artillery team.

willow moon
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like, one tank rolled over your fortress

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something like that

robust ibex
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tanks become very useless the moment they are up against an artillery team.
@charred vigil do not need even that , tanks would be no problem vs well organized group, but it is game , not competative clan vs clan

willow moon
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@charred vigil arty are the gods of the battlefields

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but the problem is, its hard to keep it manned due to this being game.

robust ibex
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but the problem is, its hard to keep it manned due to this being game.
@willow moon
@willow moon you need 2 guys, pref not idiots

willow moon
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Indeed

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I was too soon to speak

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I just want to know if there was a certain moment ingame that you felt the overpoweredness? of tank?

robust ibex
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to be honest they have always been strong, but other things have got so nerfed that it is way worse now

willow moon
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How long have you been following the game?

robust ibex
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I took breaks, but I do have this game for years, still have over 1000h from both accounts, to lazy to check when I got it , but it is not from when it got released for sure

willow moon
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well if thats the case, can you tell me about the nerfs you are talking about?

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another thing, is there anything else you feel is game breaking?

robust ibex
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It will take some time to recall all and put together game has been turned upside down, but not being able to stack grenades for sure was huge hit for inf capabilities, not vs tanks though, it was really way easier to use he vs tanks back then,you did not have such delay you have now that makes it almost impossible to hit anything, game has really changed , allot to recall to put it together , but they were strong back then too, I mean building alone was completely different making advancing, protecting easier

willow moon
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Im assuming you like to play as infantry? for your grievness is focussed on inf capaility to deal with the tanks?

robust ibex
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Im assuming you like to play as infantry? for your grievness is focussed on inf capaility to deal with the tanks?
@willow moon this game is heavy on inf, so it should be focused on inf, battles and advancement back then were way more fun then they are now, with tanks and other vehicles or no, now it is camping fest

willow moon
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so you like the gunplay of this game, not the vehicles and other stuffs

robust ibex
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so you like the gunplay of this game, not the vehicles and other stuffs
@willow moon I have spent more time gathering resources and playing logi, building then in field, no it is not about gunplay, it is about how battles go

willow moon
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forgive me if i am wroung, but your grieve was about infantry's inability to deal with armor? why would that be a problem if you are mainly a logi?

robust ibex
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tanks are putting way to much pressure on battlefields and other areas have been nerfed so bad that this game now is camping fest without organized groups or major player advantage

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I am not mainly logi

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logi was only delivering resources , resource gathering resource gathering, building is building

willow moon
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can you elaborate on how the tank being strong against inf inhence the tendency of camping and prevent organized groups?

robust ibex
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how?it is already hard enough to push, especially if numbers are not at your side, one tank make all side on defense because they just cant advance

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well you usually have more then just tank, but oh well , 1 tank is enough anyway , it is like power boost

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1 tank can do more then 30 people that are waiting anyway

willow moon
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If tank is so strong, isnt it supposed to break the stalemate?

robust ibex
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no

willow moon
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can give me an example on that?

robust ibex
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Simple, first of all 1 tank should not have such effect just because of how easy it is to maintain it, sorry if it hurts you, but it is easy compared to how much you have to put in it, second, it is just 1 research, no 1 research should give such huge advantage, there is full tech tree and 1 terminator unlock , although it does show some flaws on why map movement is so funny until tank unlock , overall this just shows how game has gone astray in this matter , there should be pull of ways how to lead battle , there isn't

willow moon
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no what i asked was, the example of tank enhancing stalemate

robust ibex
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to your question , it should be able to do it in good hands , unfortunately it is late research and I think that battles should be manageable and should not be effected by just 1 unlock like it is some cheat code

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ohh for defense, I mean why not, you can push them back, if they do not have tank , I doubt they will be able to push anyway if they do not have huge number advantage

willow moon
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so the stalemate happens from the tank owning side not pushing?

robust ibex
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so what is your point, game should end as soon as 1 faction is first to unlock tanks?

willow moon
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have you experienced such game?

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if so can you describe you personal experience in it?

robust ibex
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Ofc no, have you played it, game continues to progress when tanks are unlocked , but , as soon as they are unlocked real map movement happens, idk , maybe I am just stupid, but it does not seem right that game is based on tank unlocks , and is so keen on making it stalemate until all inf has to defend vs VIP tanks

willow moon
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so from what i gather

robust ibex
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from what I gather you are just trying to sound smart when you are just biased ape

willow moon
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tanks cause major power shift in battle it breaks the stalemate, and is too powerful for infs to deal with

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are these your grievances?

ebon walrus
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looks like Christmas here

willow moon
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If you didnt like my tone I want to say it is not intentional

drifting heath
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@ebon walrus I'm not sure how you celebrate Christmas, but mine usually do not involve taking a verbal crap in public

willow moon
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Well idk about you man but i enjoyed talking with you i gotta go but feel free to pm me

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I really wanna continue this talk

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stfu cian you useless shit

robust ibex
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tanks cause major power shift in battle it breaks the stalemate, and is too powerful for infs to deal with
@willow moon yes , they do cause major power shift, because there are no real tools to deal with them , rpg only way , even then you need more then 1 guy, group , ofc there are plenty of other bizarre ways to deal with them that will work once in blue moon, I get your point that they do cause advancement, but it is just stupid that inf has to spend most of their time camping untill all mighty tanks come causing your side to move and other side to crumble

fiery apex
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I think tanks should have their range decreased, because tank sniping causes stalemates not advancement

drifting heath
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Look at this. That's a tl;dr version of The Vision. If you read it, you will see, why the current strategy of waiting for tanks is valid

robust ibex
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to sum it up , before it was possible to andvance in many ways with smokes he, building , just going in shooting, arty, heavy vehicles , now it seems just numbers or tanks

drifting heath
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Let me inform you: When we lost Callahan's Belt 5 days ago, we had no tanks yet. It was a difficult battle, but we died to howi barrage, not to tanks

robust ibex
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Let me inform you: When we lost Callahan's Belt 5 days ago, we had no tanks yet. It was a difficult battle, but we died to howi barrage, not to tanks
@drifting heath prob clan

drifting heath
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People say it was the Colonial number clan, I'm not sure about which it truly was. But you are speaking out against tanks being the only weapon for pushes, while it is not the case

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The week before we took Marban and Loch. With no tanks and not even HTs

robust ibex
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People say it was the Colonial number clan, I'm not sure about which it truly was. But you are speaking out against tanks being the only weapon for pushes, while it is not the case
@drifting heath No , I do not include clans, because they have and always will be able to use game mechanics way above other player level, it would be just plain stupid to take them into account when majority of playerbase is just regular players

drifting heath
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This might be the case. But this majority of regular players is โ€” as sad as it is โ€” practically useless. Without clans, Foxhole would not work.

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Stalemates will always happen, no matter the technology

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because people are just not organized

robust ibex
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This might be the case. But this majority of regular players is โ€” as sad as it is โ€” practically useless. Without clans, Foxhole would not work.
@drifting heath Bs, it did work just fine before, when people actually had options

drifting heath
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When was that? Before 0.32? Before 0.26?

robust ibex
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Before they cut all advancement options beside overpowered tech , or depending on well organized group which will never work in this game beside clans

drifting heath
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It is intended this way. No man with a rifle should be able to push a whole region

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It's either big guns or big organization

robust ibex
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never said that someone with rifle was able to push, it took allot of effort and time

lean turret
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One region maybe not, but town? ๐Ÿ˜

robust ibex
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ofc town lol

drifting heath
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They can do it today very well

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Go to a undefended town and blow it up

lean turret
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Too bad CVs can't be captured, was fun to gun down players, yoink their stuff, wrench and CV then make enemy frontline wonder why town behind them is green and supply trucks shot by GHouses coloniallol

drifting heath
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Pretty sure the fun was only one-sided

robust ibex
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They can do it today very well
@drifting heath you cant do shit, you can't push with building, you can't push with he and smoke , you can't push with arty without group, you can't push with sneaky attacks getting to base without tank, you can't even push with weapon clearing if your side isnot op

drifting heath
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Oh, you can do all that. Sure, not on the frontline. But the backline is all open to you. I'm dealing with this partisaning shit every fking day

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This is the reason btw, why I believe border decay is horrible and defenses need a serious buff, as the current mechanics make them pretty much useless

robust ibex
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it is prob because non wants to spend all their game building shit

lean turret
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What do you mean hammering and delivering GSoda is not fun

robust ibex
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not for me,I just do thous thing because I actually care about how our side does, not there just for giggles

lusty yoke
short berry
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why are you playing civ 5?

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what is the mod youre using?

night dune
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That cat became a kangaroo

lusty yoke
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@short berry it's not a mod

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it's a game man

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it's called Old World, it's made by the creator of Civ 4

native sable
woven scarab
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complaning

drowsy cipher
topaz hedge
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C A T

north aspen
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Cat is good

topaz hedge
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Cat is everything

native sable
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Why... is.... The Hallow Knights theme playing?

topaz hedge
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Because JFK said naughty-naughty

woven scarab
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@olive thicket Pretty much
Whenever I look for a specific picture or gif meme it has a white bar above it with the text:

OMG ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
or something similar

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it's so damn annoying

untold kettle
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we cringeposting today gamers

sleek wolf
maiden fern
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@olive thicket god i love that game

topaz hedge
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@native sable I mean I know that the states look like they're switched around. Just mentioning that I don't know the US states

astral bane
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Weird place to be

woven scarab
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@compact flint that picture makes the game look cooler than it is

charred vigil
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game is very dissapointing tbh

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then again, I suppose Supreme Commander Forged Alliance set the bar too high

scenic thunder
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set it high enough its own sequel didnt reach anywhere close

woven scarab
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Never played supcom 1

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But having played Ashes for like 2 hours now, I suddenly feel the urge to find myself an RTS that uses absolutely massive maps

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Like Wargame, except... even bigger

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I'm also rather tired of crafted multiplayer maps with specific starting locations and everything. They're good maps, but they also feel artificial.

charred vigil
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competitive gameplay is artificial duh

woven scarab
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Yeah, not a big fan of StarCraft 2 either

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screw build orders

charred vigil
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hell, even AoE2 has build orders

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every single RTS game will have one

woven scarab
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Yeah, and I don't do them in AoE2 either

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Hm, biggest map possible in Supreme Commander 2 is 81kmx81km

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Not very big

charred vigil
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that's... the range of the Mavor in Sup Com 1

woven scarab
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Mavor?

charred vigil
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UEF Superweapon artillery

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think storm cannon that fires nukes

woven scarab
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So why exactly does it need to cover the entire map?

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Size is also relative

charred vigil
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it's one of the "Game Enders"

woven scarab
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81x81 for SupCom is not very big
81x81 for Age of Empires 2 is

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Or even just CnC Red Alert

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Seems to me that even the biggest map in any given game comes down to "a little big, but not very big"

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I suppose I just miss all out war

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the kind you see on splash art

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Been wondering if there's ever been an rts game that combined player input with the AI.

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Where you still build armies etc. but where the units can think for themselves and aren't so braindead that you need to micro them.

scenic thunder
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as tests yeah

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as a fully fledged triple a game dont think so

woven scarab
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Like, when you tell a tank to attack another tank, it won't just stand still in the open firing its main gun every few seconds

scenic thunder
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also supcom maps are pretty big but becaise they are to scale

woven scarab
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So essentially an RTS game where the units have Shooter AI

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and you could theoretically win by giving vague orders like "attack here" and "secure this area"

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I suppose that's why I'm interested in ArmA 3's Zeus

scenic thunder
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tom clancys end war voice system kind of accounted for something like that

paper timber
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@woven scarab there's the Graviteam Tactics games but they're so complex

woven scarab
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Hell, I wish there was a game where the Zeus mechanic is a core part of the game.

paper timber
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mind-boggingly complex

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but at least you don't have to micromanage your soldiers

scenic thunder
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when you say "attack point Alpha" and the go there and find enemies in the route they may stop and get to cover before asking for more instructions

paper timber
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they think for themselves

woven scarab
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I love mixing RTS with Shooter, except ArmA is, well... ArmA.

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I really want one of those X amount of shooter players vs 1 RTS player/gamemaster games, except ArmA is too milsim for me and I don't think there are any alternatives.

scenic thunder
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tbh the field of ai in strategy games is very poorly developed compared to other genres because its is incredible more complex

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say a player in a shooter has a very limited range of motions

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it can move or jump and shoot and thats about it

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its a single enitity with very defined rules

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but in a strategy game you have possibly thousand of units each can be ordered to do stuff at the same time in different ways

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an AI would have to cope with an exponentially larger range of situations it is exposed to

woven scarab
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For me, as soon as you start box selecting units in the hundreds, it stops being appealing

scenic thunder
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no thats not what im talking about

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see when you code AI theres basically 2 ways

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situational and self-learning

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situational means you say "ok, if player does a you do b"

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if you have say a 100 different situations its easy

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make a bit code to identify wich sutuation is happening and react accordingly

woven scarab
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What would be a situation that doesn't occur anywhere else?

scenic thunder
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in a shooter, as I said, the maximum possible situations is pretty limited

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the player can move or not move, shoot or not shoot and maybe a couple more

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its like a mouse in a box

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theres only so much it can possibly do

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however in a strategy game all that goes down the drain

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you can see a player just turtling and identify that as turtling

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and suddenly he has zerg rushed you from the back

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then your ai crumbles because it couldnt predict what the player is gonna do

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at that point situational ai programming is just putting a band aid

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wich is what most strategy games do

charred vigil
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I remember Masters of Orion 3
what a mess that was

woven scarab
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I can see that at the commander level, yeah

scenic thunder
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then you have self lesrning wich is a whole another field but poorly developed

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see in a shooter if the player goes and tries something weird it doesnt reslly matter because you told the ai that if player is less than 5 meters to the ai then move back (aka avoid the player doing cqc)

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now try to apply that to a strategy game

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whatbis the ai gonna do? retreat to infinity its units because it wants to avoid cqc?

woven scarab
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But what I was taling about was more or less soldier level AI. The kind that prompts an infantry soldier to find nearby cover without player input when under attack.

scenic thunder
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a player can easily exploit that to push the ai units to the edge of the map witha few jnits of his own

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leaving base completely exposed

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well some games do that

woven scarab
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if it's say.. long range artillery? Yes, they'd make the independent decision to run away

scenic thunder
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company of heroes 2 soldiers get to cover if thered any nesrby and being shot at

woven scarab
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I haven't played CoH2 in a long time so I don't recall how much they get into cover

scenic thunder
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its not great but its something you can count on in mp

woven scarab
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Like, how far they'd run from their ordered position to get into cover

scenic thunder
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thing is

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say what if they go to cover and theres a hidden mine in said cover

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wich blows up your squad

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its no fun then that you lost an squad because "dumb ai"

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when programming this its all a give or tske

woven scarab
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If no one knew it was there, then it wasn't dumb

scenic thunder
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some prefer the reslism others dont

woven scarab
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If you did know, then they should've too

scenic thunder
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no heres the thing

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even if you didnt know

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some players dont like that

woven scarab
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I'd shrug and take the L

scenic thunder
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in the end its a product and its designed to be sold

woven scarab
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sidenote: do you know of Radio Commander?

scenic thunder
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most game makers just go and say lets go with the more arcade approach wich is easier to code and will appease micromanagement fans

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yeah I know

woven scarab
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I think the concept is nice, but I'm not jumping at the chance to buy it either

scenic thunder
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radio commander ai is actually pretty basic, the morale system is nothing new and the enemy ai seems to just orbit capture points

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at the core ai programming is triying to emulate human intelligence and reactions and you can see why that would be easy to do for a game like say tennis

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tennis boils down to go where ball is goin, hit ball back

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there can be a few variations like where to hit and special techniques but thats about it

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now try to apply that to a game like chess

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what are you gonna tell the ai? go kill all his pieces?

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if the ai cannot predict the next move its hopeless

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in tennis you can 100% expect that the ball is going back to your field or some variation of it

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if it doesnt, you won

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in chess you may predict hes gonna move his queen to a position succesfully and porceed to kill it... and lose in the next 3 turns because that was a trap

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you need a higher plane of prediction that asseses the oversl situation and how everything can interact wich eachother

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not just a->b->c

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but a<-->b<-->c<-->a

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ok end of my rant

woven scarab
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I still want a gamemaster type game tho

scenic thunder
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idk code that shit then I guess

woven scarab
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Huh, ran into this

scenic thunder
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5v5?

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seems smol

woven scarab
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Lots of AI

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Commander can train AI infantry and assign them to players. Leading them as a frontline officer; your squad will fight with you sensibly , taking cover and help you both offensively and defensively.

charred vigil
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1 commander and 4 squad officers

woven scarab
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Dunno about the health of the game, though

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quite a few reviews saying dead game

charred vigil
#

it most likely is

#

games like these don't tend to have a playerbase...

woven scarab
#

I love the commander in Natural Selection 2, so I'm interested in this one too. But if it's dead, welp.

#

Doesn't help that these kinds of games are always from smaller studios or even new studios rather than studios who already have the experience to pull it off.

charred vigil
#

those who have experience stay far away from games like these

woven scarab
#

oh right, I forgot about Executive Assault 2

#

Not sure about the player distribution tho

#

A lot of these games simply give you direct control of a unit in an rts game

#

Like Call to Arms where I can possess any unit and use them to fight.

#

I'm more interested in how NS2 does it. With a multiplayer where 1 player is the commander and everyone else takes up the role of a unit.

charred vigil
#

I also like rising storm

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๐Ÿธ

topaz hedge
scenic thunder
#

nah

#

this is the arma experience

#

when you are in a truck and the guy with lag got the driver

#

eventually killing the whole squad

quasi frost
#

Come on, are they even going to post the devstreaming on youtube? A lot of time passed. It seems the devs are hiding.

lusty yoke
tame vapor
#

Both epic games and windows only

#

Damn

frozen cedar
karmic ether
lusty yoke
sleek wolf
#

Got accepted into the enlistment beta

#

Alpha*

sleek wolf
turbid cloak
#

small fish

open lantern
#

We should have a 5 minute ceasefire for VE day.

sleek wolf
#

@turbid cloak thats just the camera angle

#

Its fat for a trout

solid lintel
#

Thereโ€™s no slow mode here

#

Riot

true salmon
karmic ether
#

wish

#

really wish i could type in foxhole discussion

true salmon
#

Ctrl + R

karmic ether
#

but still got the 6 hour slowmode even after restarting

#

yeah i did that, 7 times lol

true salmon
#

Task manager kill and restart

karmic ether
#

did that too

solid lintel
#

Yea I can't talk either

#

I did ctl R and everything

karmic ether
#

#BringBackCommunityHelpers

lethal plank
#

Wtf is this

true salmon
#

Ctrl + R discord

solid lintel
#

Ive done it like

#

Three times now

kind birch
#

?unmute @kind birch

sinful bridgeBOT
#

dynoError I can't unmute Sir#0001

kind birch
#

?undeafen @kind birch

sinful bridgeBOT
#

dynoSuccess Sir#0001 was undeafened.

sleek wolf
#

Sir why do you still have powers

north aspen
#

Burritos give him power

broken oak
#

@kind birch good luck out there o/
also lol, mods have their own models that's sick

drifting heath
#

Sir will be missed

keen parcel
#

Who here browses /k/?

upbeat meadow
#

oof no more sir. I will give the only sir quote I know

#

"Do you see the colour above my head"

edgy siren
karmic ether
#

h

jade ravine
#

Who's the new admin?

unreal root
#

I heard it is lercas

sleek wolf
#

Another one

willow fjord
#

I just heard in the news that today Germany have a holiday of freeing the Germany from nazis. This is insulting tbh

jade ravine
#

Why? The common people got drowned in propaganda and lived in fear

#

I don't think there's many Germans now who wish the Nazi's had won

willow fjord
#

Common people elected Hitler's party to power. Common people pacified polish folks after September of 39. Common people operated concentration camps

#

Not every aspect of nazi Germany was caused by brainwashed youth. They wanted this and now they insult people who fought against them in the war insinuating that nazis and germans are completely separate. Like they suddenly appeared out of thin air and did all of this while real Germans were asleep

jade ravine
#

Common people 100 years ago who didn't have jobs or food

#

A lot of them didn't know about the camps or if they did they certainly couldn't talk about it

#

Its a complex issue, but we're talking about the current modern germans celebrating not having a facist government#

willow fjord
#

They knew obviously that's wrong what you say. Hitler talked about this openly mind you

#

I want them to embrace what they did not to act like it was someone else fcking pulling the strings you know

jade ravine
#

How about it not being their generation?

#

Like sure, if germany was having this celebration right after WW2 I'd probably agree with you

#

But pretty much nobody doing this today was in any way personally involved

willow fjord
#

You don't get it. I want the younger generation to look back at their grandpa's youth and think"shit, let it be the only time our country folks did something so horrific". I don't want them to treat it like their grandparents were victims of some magical evil beings

jade ravine
#

They do. They absolutely do. Thats why they are celebrating, they are celebrating that that time is over and that their grandparents were stopped

#

It doesn't matter in a way whether their grandparents were victims or not

willow fjord
#

No I watched the celebration and rethoric of it all is disgusting

jade ravine
#

They still did what they did

#

Why is it insulting to you that they are glad they aren't Nazis?

willow fjord
#

It's insulting me it had strong victim rethoric to it all

jade ravine
#

Fascism: I sometimes fear...
I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...

It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."

#

A poem for you

#

I can't be bothered carrying on with this. The debate of who was victims and who wasn't isn't black and white

#

I just don't feel like you should be insulted by it but whatever, it doesn't affect me

willow fjord
#

They are celebrating the victory of someone's else in a war they started and lost turning the whole thing into something that happened to them, not something that was caused by them. The way they spoke was just disgusting to me.

#

I hate every Western country for celebrating the day they sharted on my country and every other unlucky member of the eastern block in fear of the winners of the war but the Germans celebrating that in a way they did is just too much

shrewd flume
#

I dont know what holdiay you are even talking about.

#

This some sort of one time thing

edgy siren
shrewd flume
#

And how did you watch the rhetoric, did you just translate it all or do you understand german?

true salmon
#

@shrewd flume VE day, happens every year in Europe

shrewd flume
#

Or was it like in english?

willow fjord
#

I watched it with my sister who translated it to me

shrewd flume
true salmon
#

Germany doesn't have a national holiday, though a lot of other countries do.

shrewd flume
#

So just to make this clear, this is berlin doing this and not all of germany right?

willow fjord
#

That makes more sense to me now but it's still awful to me

shrewd flume
#

Because germany has states and all yknow

true salmon
#

Regional holiday in Berlin it looks like

gritty spoke
#

There are union jacks and welsh flags all around here

#

Socially distant street parties too

#

People playing 1940s music and just having a bit of a laugh.

sleek wolf
#

The day we teamed up once more to fuck some shit yp

gritty spoke
#

haha

willow fjord
#

But you know regardless of British shortcomings and lacks you were the heroes

#

And Germans were the villians

sleek wolf
#

They were

gritty spoke
#

My father has always said that calling it "Victory Day" is a big rub in the face for the Germans

#

But it's just because of Churchill's v for victory

sleek wolf
#

It was the allies who won

#

Back to back world war champs

willow fjord
#

For my country it's bittersweet because when german shit ended we were thrown into even deeper shit from soviets

gritty spoke
#

Indeed

#

What is your country?

willow fjord
#

In general the war was basically how to be betrayed 2 times while being leveled from east and west at the same time

gritty spoke
#

Poland

willow fjord
#

Yeah

sleek wolf
#

So your both poles?

gritty spoke
#

No, I'm Welsh/English

sleek wolf
#

I see

willow fjord
#

I am Polish ( actually Silesian but nobody knows it exist as ethnicity so)

#

Silesians are irl dwarves btw

gritty spoke
#

Churchill wanted to attack from Yugoslavia after D-Day so he could prevent Soviet claims in the east, but we attacked southern france instead

#

Lol sorta like here in Wales

#

The southerners are all smaller

willow fjord
#

Yeah and during the September campaign the west decided to ignore Poland's dire situation

sleek wolf
#

Well you gotta look at it from a tacticsl stand point too

gritty spoke
#

Indeed

sleek wolf
#

You could throw lives away trying to stop the russians by hitting some of germanys most fortifed spots in europe

#

Or save some lives and attack places like southern france

willow fjord
#

Oh and these brave souls who escaped concentration camps to the US to tell them about the Holocaust only to be laugh at - that was fun too

sleek wolf
#

General patton wanted to keep an war going and straight up invade the ussr

#

Push through the rest of berlin and hit the soviets

willow fjord
#

That would probably end up in Americans speaking russian today tbh

#

The point is I doubt Russians would shit themselves arter being nuked like Japan

gritty spoke
#

They can get away with anything while china is the main target

sleek wolf
#

you mean russians speaking American

gritty spoke
#

woah

willow fjord
#

And the only successful attack on and capture of Moscow I know of was in 1000s

sleek wolf
#

the mongols

gritty spoke
#

Well actually, English and American at this point are two different languages

sleek wolf
#

no

willow fjord
#

The Bolesล‚aw Chrobry

sleek wolf
#

we Americans speak english

north aspen
#

English and American aren't different, yet

gritty spoke
#

Soon will be my friend

#

Newspeak is rising

willow fjord
#

You know it's different when you get weird looks after saying "nice pants bro"

#

LMAO

#

I tried to say how funny it is that a fa g in Britain is a cigarette

gritty spoke
#

it is aye

willow fjord
#

And got fucking scolded by the bot

#

So "let me finish this fa g" have completely different meanings in us and uk

gritty spoke
#

some people prefer to use the longer version for homosexual folk

willow fjord
#

Btw I live close to Wales and it's amazing down there. my best times living in Britain was smoking a bong on the great Orne of Llandudno during a storm

gritty spoke
#

haha it's lovely in Llandudno

#

I live right on the border

willow fjord
#

Oh and I met an Indian individual who spoke only Hindi, Welsh and Polish. That dude was nuts let me tell you

safe aspen
#

@shrewd flume Were you one of the ones that plays EU4?

#

I casnt remember

shrewd flume
#

I did play that game at a point yes, but i remember ever less about it.

safe aspen
#

Fair enough

sleek wolf
#

enlisted is pretty good

woven scarab
#

I'd love to try it but I got my hands full

sleek wolf
#

Fighting as the germans is pretty fun

#

Defending berlin is fun

#

Enlisted is a 10/10 game

#

Having real players and ai in a match is cool

woven scarab
#

last test was janky as fuck

karmic ether
#

whats enlisted?

#

is it that one game where there are AI, players, and you can drive tanks and shit?

chrome flower
#

Yes

pure ember
lusty yoke
#

@pure ember you're a mod ๐Ÿ˜ฎ wow man, we used to play together xD

pure ember
#

Been a while though bud ๐Ÿ˜„

lusty yoke
#

yeah man, quite a while actually

#

how's youtube going? I remember you were doing foxhole stuff

pure ember
#

I don't post stuff regularly, it's just random shitposting tbh wardenlol

lusty yoke
#

ahhh, fair enough, well, loved the tank video

#

where the colonial was trying to snipe u with nades xD

pure ember
#

Lmao

#

Your content is better tbh

lusty yoke
#

aww, thx man, just got to 1.5k yesterday, never though I'd get to 1k, let alone 1.5k lol

pure ember
#

Good content = More viewers so it's only natural ๐Ÿ˜„

frozen cedar
#

@pure ember we need bigger areas for crew thats the second time we suffocated

#

LOL

lusty yoke
#

yeah, happy to see it pay off, takes me literally the whole day to edit and do a video

agile pasture
#

Whoever uses the phrase hapax lagomenon in a serious context, is a one off

plain mountain
#

@safe aspen

safe aspen
#

Looks like pizza

#

Just not

plain mountain
#

hmm

#

I mean it has the shape of pizza

#

definitely not the taste tho

agile pasture
#

I'd argue it has the shape of a quiche

#

The best kind of circular pastry

plain mountain
#

quiche is good

plucky quartz
#

Please check it out

cerulean creek
#

@pure ember Yeah because there's so many of you the submarine ran out of oxygen. There's times and places to have a lot of numbers, and a sub is not one of them.

lean turret
#

Room was too toxic julianlol

lusty yoke
olive thicket
woven scarab
#

hertogenbosch lol

#

there's an s in front that is pronounced and the sch is pronounced as a regular s

#

cool video tho

manic prism
#

eae

willow fjord
#

Enlisted look pretty bad ngl I think I have skewed judgement though as this is very much arcade shooter with awful censorship and sounds

brisk ermine
#

@compact flint yes I concur.

#

This is factual.

compact flint
#

@brisk ermine waiting for a basic FPS or RTS game from u

#

And watch u suffer and have no life

shrewd flume
#

Sad but true

sleek wolf
#

@shrewd flume thats a metallica song

low hill
native sable
drifting heath
#

This is beautiful

short berry
#

fuck

#

thats hot

north aspen
scenic thunder
tepid sierra
#

Yo

#

Could anyone help me with some Algebra and tell me if I can factor something the the way I did?

ebon walrus
#

starship

#

starship

native sable
#

Mkay what are you trying to factor

static glade
ebon walrus
#

Beach episode?!?111/1!?

#

SAuCeE

chrome flower
#

Were there even some amphibious attachments for Tiger I?

ebon walrus
#

im sure there was snorkle gear

chrome flower
#

Yeah but thats not really like Sherman DD

ebon walrus
#

nothing is like the sherman DD

chrome flower
#

I know germany made amphibious gear or Pz IIs LT vz.38s for Seelowe

ebon walrus
#

the DD is just wack

scenic thunder
#

lmao

#

whacky af

#

reminds me of the british "bridgelayer" wich was literally a churchill tank wich they took the turret out and put some planks above it

#

then proceded to dump the tank in the river and walk over it

#

turns out churchills are stackable

woven scarab
karmic ether
sour lance
#

@karmic ether 2 things I like, and OH GOD THAT FOV

karmic ether
#

fov_desired 90

torn pond
#

๐Ÿ‘

ebon walrus
#

Wtf

maiden fern
#

@ebon walrus only crust

static glade
ebon walrus
#

oh shit thats a sexy tiger

near jewel
maiden fern
#

@near jewel what

karmic ether
#

the whole thing

proven bridge
maiden fern
#

@karmic ether sounds very 90's, how is this even vaporwave

karmic ether
#

that's the point

elfin hazel
somber pewter
lusty yoke
willow fjord
#

@near jewel what
@maiden fern in the bottom right it's lyrics from Polish sitcom that's basically a mix of "Married... With Children" and "Trailer Park Boys"

gaunt meadow
#

@willow fjord what's it called? that sounds amazing

willow fjord
#

"ลšwiat Wedล‚ug Kiepskich" it's a cult classic but it will be hard to understand the jokes when you are an outsider

#

And it's kind of folksy ya know

upper sun
#

why spamming fcl in update channel? hehe xd

twin totem
#

Wut

short berry
#

@tender osprey dont spread fake copypastas

near jewel
#

Stop with this copypasta man

red girder
#

Do not accept a friend request from @primal blaze . He is a hacker. Tell everyone on your friends list because if somebody on your list adds one of them, they'll be on your list too. They will figure out your personal computer's IP and address, so copy & paste this message wherever you can. He is going around sending friend requests to random discord users, and those who accept his requests will have their accounts and their IP Addresses revealed to him. Spread the word and send this to as many discord servers as you can. If you see this user, DO NOT accept his friend request and immediately block him.

twin totem
#

Now that's something I can get behind

willow fjord
#

I'm all for getting my VM hacked. The dude would be surprised to find my Pyongyang IP address

twin totem
#

Kim Jong Un is that you?

willow fjord
primal blaze
#

Ok so.

#

Thatโ€™s mega false.

willow fjord
#

That's what a hacker would say

primal blaze
#

._.

#

How tf do I respond to this

#

Mod mail?

willow fjord
#

My phone corrects "hacker" to"cheater" automatically lmao. Too much online fps games

primal blaze
#

Cause itโ€™s clearly false.

#

@red girder Not trying good be salty, but hey, asshole, take it down.

red girder
#

No

primal blaze
#

Ok itโ€™s a joke

#

But fr, stop

woven scarab
lime junco
shrewd flume
#

Foxhole: Bang your head on the keyboard until logi is complete.

karmic ether
#

Or more like W

rugged shuttle
#

Ah good ole Louisiana. Here's a headline you don't see everyday, "KFC employee allegedly fired gunshots at customers angry over lack of food." julianlol

agile pasture
#

The more British version of that was middle aged women complaining on the news that they had to go to burger king

crystal thistle
#

Excuse me!

#

There can only be room for ONE George Michael

#

I challenge you to a Careless Whisper sing off!

fiery tendon
crystal thistle
#

@agile pasture

agile pasture
#

Hmmm

#

I just

#

I feel so unsure

lime plaza
#

OH

#

Whos the real one!

agile pasture
#

It doesn't really matter at all

#

I changed my name

lime plaza
#

Yes it does! 1 of you is ex mod! and i need to abuse that one!

agile pasture
#

Can't be a true GM fan I'm afraid

#

Must be looking for fast love

crystal thistle
#

Never gonna dance again..

agile pasture
#

Guilty feet, I've got no rhythm

crystal thistle
#

We are so handsome

agile pasture
#

Of course we are

#

You of all people shouldn't have to say

#

Because you're amazing

topaz hedge
#

Hol up a moment

agile pasture
#

Slowmode does a good job of that

plain mountain
#

what in tarnation

topaz hedge
#

exactly

#

I've gone crazy

knotty lotus
karmic ether
#

hmm yes

#

bu รงox gรถzษ™l bir ลŸษ™kil

topaz hedge
#

...

sleek wolf
lament bough
#

Ugh, my mom and sister are fighting over her smoking again.

#

Like, FUCK can you two take a break, jesus.

plush lance
#

@karmic ether Talk to me

charred vigil
#

a smoke break?

crystal thistle
#

What happens if George Michael meets George Michael ingame?

topaz hedge
#

The universe breaks down

unreal root
#

There are still two different persons with the same name. There are around 25 persons in the world with my first name and surname and one with the same full name as me, first name, middle name and both father's and mother's surnames. Anyway, we're all have different social security numbers except for those living outside United States.

paper timber
#

okay party pooper

scenic thunder
abstract furnace
#

One Snap

topaz hedge
#

Okay then....

abstract furnace
#

Meanwhile

scenic thunder
#

why are they inside a tunnel

#

this pic is randomly specfic

static glade
willow fjord
#

They are not only trying to cut the rope but also dig holes under medical care @scenic thunder

elfin hazel
#

Looks to me like its a metaphor for 'undermining'

dim nova
frozen cedar
scenic thunder
#

the pink shirt person was inches away from losing an arm

static glade
#

also anyone played the swedish tanks on warthunder yet. the 1.0 tanks are beyond op. they got 105mm pen with the apcr shells

scenic thunder
#

the pkv2 is amazing

#

is basically the firepower of a 75mm cannon with a 360 turret and tiny body

#

its like a discount pzIV f2 but doednt have to fight the big boys

static glade
#

i do not have that yet. i been using the 150mm deathstart and that the savm/43 (1946) they are just so derpy

#

and for my actual tank just insert the generic 37mm pen all

scenic thunder
#

I mean 150mm is nothing new just another derpy boy along sturmpanzer and the japanese one

static glade
#

the velocity makes shooting over cover so painfully easy. but it is quicker to just mail the shell to them

scenic thunder
#

their big tierd are also meme but good

static glade
#

im just a bit nervous moving past the 37mm tanks as they seem a bit lackluster

scenic thunder
#

their early main battle tank prototype has 3 atgms slapped on the hull

static glade
#

the delat torn looks like it will be a pain to operatre

scenic thunder
#

like literally one on the cannon and two on the turret

#

I mean main problem of the tiny tanks is other nations mediums

#

especially m4s and t-34

static glade
#

with the 1.0 tanks the early t34s and m4s are not much of a problem. i only kinda panic when a jumbo takes interest in me

#

kv1s dont even give me an issue as you can pen the front with the 37

scenic thunder
#

yeah heavies you should really avoid unless you a TD

#

pkv2 is a TD and can deal with them

#

since it has basically paper armor you are likely to survive a couple of shots

static glade
#

i still got a few more rounds before i can get that unlocked. i went for the heat shells in the 1946 td. just to remember why i dont care for heat shells

#

i was like yeah 240mm pen but the shrapnel barely goes halfway through the tank

scenic thunder
#

heat is crap until you get into tier 3-4

#

only reason to use them is if you have a tank that cant shoot anything else or you are somehow sniping

#

but sniping at +1km with anything below tier 3-4 is generslly stupid

static glade
#

ill appreciate it later on. and i do tend to snipe a decent amount.

#

the 37mm still has like 75pen at 2km

#

so i been blowing peoples minds with that gun

scenic thunder
#

yeah the problem with below 75mm cannons is the have crap ballistics

#

so you have 2 things, one need to do more calculations to hit and second you have bigger dispersion

gaunt geyser
#

exept for the hull cannon of the B1

static glade
#

they do. i been using the m/31 since it comes with 130 shells so i compensate the lack of accuracy with follow up shots

gaunt geyser
#

this thing fires only 3 meters away

scenic thunder
#

the biggest advantage of below 75mms is their rate of fire really

#

so they are better used in urban combat honestly

static glade
#

yeah i been staring at the strf 90c... oh boy does that thing looks sweet

raw birch
static glade
#

.3 sec reload and sabot rounds yes please

scenic thunder
#

countried that take advantage of that a lot is germamy for example

#

they have those 20mm autocannons and slap it to a lot of their recon hulls

#

those are mest grinders in urban enviorement

static glade
#

german autocannons are just meat grinders

#

i have one like 1 battle agaist them in the past like 10 run ins

scenic thunder
#

german ww2 snipers: expert special forces trained in lonewolf and behind the lines disruption tactics
soviet ww2 sniper: war heroes forged in a thousand battles with extreme accuracy abilities
british ww2 sniper: we gave sum boys anti-tank rifles and told them to yeet the enemies chest at 300m

#

^ found that funny

static glade
#

on the bright side the swedish lines doesnt look like it is going to get bogged down with grindy tanks and all really seems to have 1 thing they excel at that doesnt take 30 matches to figure out

woven scarab
azure pilot
olive thicket
woven scarab
native sable
prime crest
pulsar osprey
woven scarab
muted hinge
last glacier
#

You cooked those fast

slate barn
karmic ether
#

Our three intrepid Warden cosmonauts return from a successful trip to the Moon, as yet untainted by the filthy Colonials!

short berry
#

wardens are little goblin like creatures

#

its been confirmed

karmic ether
#

no, thatโ€™s the colonials

#

they look like little green spacemen

proven bridge
shell ruin
#

What does someone have to do to get some mod support?

short berry
#

message modmail

shell ruin
#

I've done that twice. I've been votekicked by the same clan twice today.

#

I just don't feel like I should have to join a clan to play a game I've already paid for.

drifting heath
#

You don't have to, but it helps. Especially when it comes to operations

native sable
#

well why did you get votekicked

drifting heath
#

and by which clan?

shell ruin
#

It was the clan named One.

native sable
#

Oh...

drifting heath
native sable
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Yeah they uh... Yeah they do that

drifting heath
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Those guys areโ€ฆ special

shell ruin
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That's great they're a known problem, and I'm still not getting help.

native sable
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My advice is change your username and they wont know who you are.

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Or ask the mods for help

drifting heath
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And try not to get near them

shell ruin
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Shouldn't the moderators take care of them if they're that much of a problem?

drifting heath
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We are constantly trying to reform them, but they are justโ€ฆ idk, ONE

native sable
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@shell ruin Sorry we aren't an authoritarian community

drifting heath
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Modsโ€ฆ are a bit inactive. We believe in self moderation here

paper timber
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@native sable I would hardly call justice authoritarian

drifting heath
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But back to the roots, why were you kicked in the first place?

native sable
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I'm not here to talk Philosophy or Poli-Sci with you Bot.

paper timber
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wow normally people call me robot

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never heard bot before

shell ruin
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The first time tried to get people to votekick one of their members because he was breaking shit, and the second time I tried to use a vehicle they left sitting in one place for about half an hour.

paper timber
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Ahh, it just seems like a misunderstanding

native sable
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Ok so in the first case: You tried to harm them.

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In the second you didn't understand the ethics of foxhole.

shell ruin
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Fucking harm someone who is destroying defenses mid battle?

drifting heath
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Trenches?

native sable
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Yeah, Votekick them is the most harmful thing you can do.

paper timber
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Okay, it's clear we need more context to 'destroying defences'

native sable
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Did you bother to ask him why?

paper timber
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what defences were being destroyed?

shell ruin
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It was mostly trenches, but we were taking howitzer fire, and they seemed to be the only defenses that would offer full protection from artillery.

drifting heath
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oof

native sable
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An did you ask why they ran them over?

drifting heath
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Trenches are bad

shell ruin
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Not really. When you see someone destroying critical infrastructure you tend to handle the problem.

drifting heath
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you want to get rid of them as fast as possible

paper timber
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I see the issue here

native sable
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Lets not get him invoved in the trench debate. IMO its kind of a dick move to run them over in use.

paper timber
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That is a fair point - but the basis is that most people hate trenches as the enemy can use them too

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while they're being used though? that's a bit dickyt

drifting heath
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True

paper timber
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so we can say you're justified in trying to votekick them for it

shell ruin
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Yeah, and then I get mob votekicked twice. It's like the old reprimand system all over again.

paper timber
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Alright, but what vehicle did you take that they left lying around?

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depending on the vehicle it could be serious or a dick move on their part

shell ruin
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I didn't even drive it off, but it was like an armored car or something.

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It sat parked for about a quarter of an hour.

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In field artillery range.

paper timber
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Well, I can see why they'd votekick you for that

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And if they still think you're a 'problem user' then you can either A talk to them or B avoid them

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These issues are never as clear-cut as one would think they might be

shell ruin
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Why should I avoid them in a game I fucking paid for though? Aren't moderators here to solve these kinds of issues?

north aspen
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Nope. ofc not

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They are supposed to help.

shell ruin
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Are there any dickheads as bad as (one) on the colonial side?

north aspen
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Probably

native sable
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@shell ruin We typically donโ€™t have Clan-bans

shell ruin
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Fuck Wardens. When I get the chance I'm gonna jump to the faction not loaded with autists.

native sable
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Itโ€™s seen as bad taste, but the Wardens share that opinion

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ONE is the exception

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Anyhow if you really feel uncomfortable playing Warden message modmail. Youโ€™ll get a one day ban but they can change your faction.

frozen cedar
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Why should I avoid them in a game I fucking paid for though? Aren't moderators here to solve these kinds of issues?
@shell ruin you can mod mail they probably unban you also player ban take like 30min max i do belive

cursive solar
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Unfortunately Moderators are unpaid

native sable
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Heโ€™s done that they arenโ€™t responding

cursive solar
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And are not obligated to care
Excluding sethfire

native sable
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Because they are swamped with the change in Mod policy

shell ruin
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I'm up to an 11 hour ban. They did it fucking twice.

native sable
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Well, just ask Mod Mail and give your reasons.

cursive solar
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You man msg mod mail and switch factions

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Youโ€™re already banned so why not take a 24 hr ban to switch

shell ruin
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Is Colonials actually fun though? I don't want to switch factions and keep getting screeched at by autists.

cursive solar
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No

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Any more questions?

north aspen
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Colonials = Wardens, you just met the wrong guys.

frozen cedar
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fuck you bot

tacit flare
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fuck you shiv

cursive solar
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No fuck you

tacit flare
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no fuck you

drifting heath
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Let's fuck together

cursive solar
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Fuck you

frozen cedar
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no fuck you 360p

topaz hedge
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wait what

tacit flare
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i will have you know im getting a quality update soon, going 480 soon

north aspen
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So far the only problems I've seen have been ONE and the occasional Hans issue.

drifting heath
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But as long as you aren't Hans, latter doesn't matter

frozen cedar
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most of the people do

cursive solar
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4K when

frozen cedar
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probably never due to low internet speed

tacit flare
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4k is when i look in the mirror and realize that in game and in fod there is no difference between me and cain

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in fod is when i perfect his messaging style

native sable
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Same, one day I woke up and I was luka

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Literally

tacit flare
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in game is when i get as greedy for commends as cain is

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so i have work to do

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actually i deserve 480p

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i was really greedy today and cian said i sounded just like cain

drifting heath
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Did I really?

tacit flare
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i am better now

topaz hedge
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1080p when?

tacit flare
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as i said before

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progression is based on likeness to cain

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the more greedy in game and the more shitposty on fod i go

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the more i gain power

topaz hedge
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ok then

tacit flare
drifting heath
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Looks like I did

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Good to know

tacit flare
karmic ether
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i mean thats pretty ungratefull to give him 1 commend when he brings all that

cerulean creek
north aspen
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Thatโ€™s cause of ONE and only ONE

cerulean creek
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The Warden Clans first came after the streamers, nobody stopped them
The Wardens Clans than came after the new players for being spies, nobody stopped them
The Warden clans than came after their randoms, nobody stopped them.

By than there were no Wardens left except Warden clans crying about low pop.

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lol

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I honestly feel bad for Warden randoms and new players, they get tossed to the curb like trash in New York City

north aspen
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Iโ€™m new and that has not happened.

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The only problem is Hans and ONE so far.

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But you know what, fine, generalize everyone into one faction, Iโ€™m sure the devs would love that.

cerulean creek
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More like you guys sitting back while ONE harasses your team

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If a clan was pulling that shit on Colonial I'd be in Modmail right now making sure it got dealt with

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Every game mod would have dms also

north aspen
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And thatโ€™s what we suggested.

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If you look above, we tried to resolve it with mod mail

cerulean creek
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Yeah by telling him to do it

north aspen
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Iโ€™m about done though

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You can argue in circles with yourself

cerulean creek
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If a clan was bullying new people, or just players in general I'd be hammering their ass

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So much lack of action in this community.
Only time people do stuff is when there's high tier drama and they have a chance to mob lynch another player

gaunt venture
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Well...nothing like taking a break from the game, coming back, accidently shooting a tank once and then getting ban spammed. Wonderful job.

north aspen
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Let me guess, you were on the Wardens

gaunt venture
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Colonial.

north aspen
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I've been listening to Leak too much.

gaunt venture
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Had two BTs pushing from the Warden side, we were countering but I didnt realize how far our tanks pushed up. So I popped off a rocket at a friendly tank.

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I managed to hit a Warden BT after that but they said I shot them twice and got clan ban spammed

north aspen
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Oh man

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People get a little trigger happy when it comes to vote kicks

gaunt venture
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So I've seen.

north aspen
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You've contacted mod mail?

gaunt venture
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Meh it's an hour ban. Not the end of the world and I can just pop into another game for a bit.

true salmon
gaunt venture
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I can also reacquaint myself on the points of being a decent medic. Last time I played there weren't ambulances, or hospitals

short gorge
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It is unfortunate that clans abuse their power in such ways. If most focus their anger and power on fighting the enemy rather than their team, they could win wars.

north aspen
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They still do win wars

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They just arent at max efficiency

short gorge
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But it would be easier than it is.

north aspen
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Yeah, problem is, you can get really jumpy with things that take a lot of time and effort to make.

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A tank is easier to get now, but, well, it's still not what you'd call cheap.

gaunt venture
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Yeah there was definitely a lot of complaining that the attack stalled, and the time spent waiting for the tank to be made.

short gorge
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That is true. Ops take time and most things in them too. But some people do have to be more understanding and compassionate to new players.

north aspen
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Yeah, they shouldn't ban at the slightest instance of a possible problem, although Foxhole gives you fairly little room for error.

short gorge
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Yes, but they cannot expect to everyone to be perfect. Also, wars go on forever. You win some and lose others. Big deal.

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Wars will never stop until the game dies. Soon we will be at WC 102

north aspen
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This is likely going to continue though.

short gorge
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And once 1.0 comes out. They will all be the same thing but with different players and clans.

north aspen
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I'm just waiting for ONE to stop happening.

scenic thunder
silver totem
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F the greens bro.

gray stump
vagrant skiff
lusty yoke
woven scarab
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@vagrant skiff So that's where those characters are from

vagrant skiff
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lmao

errant sentinel
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whats the craziest thing that ever happened in foxhole

charred vigil
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update 26
I swear the devs were high

still plaza
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people who don't play anymore complaining about 0.26

charred vigil
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yeah
don't see them anymore

shrewd flume
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Fuck im breaking down playing these two videos

brave gorge
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just dont

short berry
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As if. 26 scared alot of vets away

shrewd flume
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bababooey

lean turret
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Babayetu

pure ember
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Bababoi

charred vigil
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but yeah, jade cove nuking did result in some policy changes

lean turret
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WN Supasoldiaz did nothing wrong

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It was tactikool decision

slender portal
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And I'm back.

native sable
karmic ether
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B E A N S

woven scarab
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Me and the bois at 2am looking for B E A N S

karmic ether
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guessing its gonna be a tactical "hardcore" military shooter where all you do is stand on points to capture them?

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if not im gonna have to check it out

north aspen
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Instead of standing on points and hitting both mouse buttons?

short berry
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nah

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its going to be a tacticool military shooter

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also too much russian footage

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so you know how that will go

karmic ether
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looks like it was made in 2015-2016 the graphics arent great

woven scarab
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guessing its gonna be a tactical "hardcore" military shooter where all you do is stand on points to capture them?
It's already out bro. @karmic ether
also too much russian footage
@short berry Here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3nxCUu1rKU
looks like it was made in 2015-2016 the graphics arent great
The first version was in 2006

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drowsy cipher
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@woven scarab i wish FH2 and PR could collaborate on some way

woven scarab
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yeah

drowsy cipher
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โค๏ธ

sleek wolf
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looks like just another world war game

drowsy cipher
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like both mods got their own active playerbase

sleek wolf
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where we already have good ones like hell let loose

drowsy cipher
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PR is getting into WW2 now

sleek wolf
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or post scriptum

woven scarab
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games like hell let loose and post scriptum are still a while away from being complete

drowsy cipher
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it would be awesome if FH2 devs could port some content to PR WW2 but that would be too one sided

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dunno how PR devs could help FH2 lol

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perhaps in netcode and stuff

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and body dragging

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@sleek wolf FH2 is a BF2 mod like PR

sleek wolf
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gross

woven scarab
sleek wolf
north aspen
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Isn't that Nepal? I know it's somewhere around there.

sleek wolf
sleek wolf
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currently beating the chinese

sleek wolf
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@ebon walrus border gore

ebon walrus
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yum

north aspen
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Asia is always the worst continent in Hoi4

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The gore is so bad

polar osprey
chrome flower
sleek wolf
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thats not even bad