narrow moth
?country China
#general-discussion
mellow reef
?country france
north aspen
?country fra
karmic ether
Didn't Maybar tell us to break it up?
north aspen
I mean, only the Asian stuff is gone, that is politically nuclear
chrome flower
What about Balkansand Middle East?
karmic ether
Actually yeah, now that I realize it why did he only delete Taiwan and Hong Kong?
China's still standing.
north aspen
It’s politically nuclear
karmic ether
Oh, I thought you meant something else by that statement.
north aspen
Is it just me, or is today worse for the mods than usual?
north aspen
And I mean, between the country stuff, and Foxhole discussions, I feel like the mods are both interfering less and more.
At the same time.
unreal root
?country spain
north aspen
?cat
unreal root
?dog
unreal root
?wolf
shrewd flume
Oh god
north aspen
Just cats and countries
shrewd flume
The command pocalypse is upon us
unreal root
?wolverine
north aspen
Oh the mods already had to interfere.
unreal root
?pessimistic
north aspen
I’m here
unreal root
You're here or at your home?
north aspen
Yes
unreal root
?cat
unreal root
?country usa
north aspen
?clean 20, I saw that
royal ermine
Hi guys, who is familiar with the commander of the CCF clan?
north aspen
Not me
pure ember
@royal ermine @misty gate
royal ermine
Thanks
woven scarab
friends talked me into getting Hearts of Iron 4, and while the game is more fun than I anticipated it would be, the different units of different nations being entirely identical has me riled up.
plain mountain
yeah it's not a perfect game for details
north aspen
It’s fine, but not the best strategy game.
woven scarab
it's better at least than other games
Hell, I'd argue hoi4 is better than Stellaris
torn pond
Aurora 4x is the best strategy game.
north aspen
Ck2 is the worst multiplayer game with a multiplayer option.
chrome flower
I mean game with multiplayer wihount multiplayer option is probably worse
north aspen
Yeah
shrewd flume
Can't wait for the C++ version of Aurora 4x
torn pond
Isn't it C#?
chrome flower
Man... im now 24 hours awake and im not even tired. WTF?
shrewd flume
Have you considered working out
chrome flower
Ive considered nap
shrewd flume
Or less cocaine
chrome flower
I dont do first and dont wanna drop out the latter.
drifting heath
Do more of first and less of latter
willow fjord
When you did jackshit over these 24 hours then you have your answer
cerulean orbit
the only thing with satisfactory is it is not on steam
or at least standalone would be better than the epic launcher
scenic thunder
I hear they were going to launch an aurora 4x lookalike but centered on being moddable and streamlined
dont remember the name tho
willow fjord
What's the point on streamlining aurora when the 4x market is pretty much saturated with great games? Play Endless space 2
hoary jackal
charred vigil
you don't.
ebon walrus
lol
charred vigil
that's an easy block
scenic thunder
endless space and aurora is like comparing the sims to animal crossing
torn pond
Great raid 10/10
ebon walrus
👏
shrewd flume
Seems as if tech specialist wins over fruit guy
short berry
eternal yarrow
waddaya mean bait
torn pond
0 context. Edgy material. Wants to argue.
sleek wolf
thanks decay man
torn pond
I'll keep that one in mind
willow fjord
I see Orwell is still alive @scenic thunder
scenic thunder
anyone here plays frostpunk?
torn pond
No but what's cool about it?
shrewd flume
scenic thunder
frostpunk is great if you like citybuilders, steampunk or moral dilemma stuff
or just brit to the bone
sleek wolf
I thought frostpunk was an rpg game
scenic thunder
lmao no
north aspen
Are there rockets in it?
scenic thunder
nope
its about massive ice age during victorian steampunk brit empire
so before society collapses the big nations start building last hope survival project stuff
for the brits its giant geothermal generators and building new cities around them
sleek wolf
ebon walrus
delete this
north aspen
@scenic thunder It definitely is not an RPG then, no rockets to propel the grenades.
Also sounds a bit interesting
karmic ether
Bannerlord is out in 5 hours 👀
ebon walrus
impossible
sleek wolf
more excited for doom
woven scarab
crimson bolt
scenic thunder
ebon walrus
wa fu ra fu
karmic ether
@hexed flare
hexed flare
Hey
hard lagoon
Server down?
gritty ravine
Wtf going on?
unkempt lichen
karmic ether
Hi everyone, i am ex foxhole player(to be exact i bought it the day it came out and played it for 100 hours) its been nearly 2 years and i would like to start playing it over again.Is there anyone who would be kind to introduce me to new foxhole and play with me.Cheers, i am 18 and i use mic and like to have fun and roleplay wars
charred vigil
I mean, I once farmed a BT in home region....
afk waited for the petrol fueled comp mine.
tawdry current
war 50 collies and war 49 wardens
pure ember
pure ember
@past marten That's not allowed here
past marten
raw phoenix
are there any good tutorials on this game
used to play, quit for a year and now dont remember anything
shrewd flume
Tutorials on this game tend to get quickly outdated. Theres signs on the home region that teach what some of the general things are you need to know. It'd be good to read them. After that you could watch the 100 tips video that recently got made.
shrewd flume
If you still have questions after all that its best to just ask, alot of people in this community are willing to answer if you can get past our cynical shell
shrewd flume
Mhm
shrewd flume
Might not be basic tips but im sure with 100 different players and 100 different tips there is something of value in that video
raw phoenix
how do you extend your view
i cant see people when i aim and other people are shooting
shrewd flume
What do you mean?
If you have a weapon out right clicking allows you to move your camera a bit. Also you can use binos or the corners of your screen for more distance
raw phoenix
binos?
raw phoenix
ah
shrewd flume
You could look around before you attack people so you have an atleast a clue where to look for
And if you put them away and don't lose them, nobody will mind for sure
You can rotate your camera with Middle mouse button, sometimes new players skip this info and it screws them over
shrewd flume
You do not have a healthbar. You do however have a different "Models" to see how hurt you are.
If you are bloody on your character you are hurt
main latch
after all these years it's finally harvesting season
shrewd flume
Most guns kill in 2 shots so just be careful after surviving the first one
shrewd flume
If you are bleeding you can see it in the top left
raw phoenix
ah ok
shrewd flume
Medics can stop bleeding or you can use a bandage
shrewd flume
Forward Operating posts, safehouse and townhalls have a button in the "Actions" bar to set your spawn
It will be blinking
raw phoenix
and do i spawn back at a forward base if i die
chrome flower
Holy shit. I just slept for 17 hours 
shrewd flume
You can spawn there then if it has soldier supplies
karmic ether
what do I name my fallout 3 character?
shrewd flume
You can also ask in #foxhole-discussion might look like we have lot of off topic stuff going on but im sure people would try to help
faint token
woven scarab
this is the way
karmic ether
this is the way
sleek wolf
denied
chrome flower
Hmm... this looks like some new game just got released or something
chrome flower
sleek wolf
frozen elk
logi pls we need carbine ammo to the front
they forgot to put the bayonet lug on it too fuck
colonial manufacturing getting pretty shit with this plague goin round
drifting heath
Why are your emotes so cute?
plain mountain
frozen elk
no magazine for it yet sadly nor a bayonet lug but we're eventually gonna buy them
right now it's a wall hanger but eventually we're gonna take it out and have some fun with it since it's in excellent condition
karmic ether
north aspen
I despise poetry
drifting heath
uncivilized brute
north aspen
I despise poetry in English class
cerulean orbit
hearty pebble
@chrome flower
desert helm
Imagine next war we hit only 200 players
north aspen
That’d be very bad
desert helm
Some of my dudes have been talking about Bannerlord too
sleek wolf
Stop talking about shiterlord and just play it
north aspen
Stop talking about it and play foxhole, the superior game.
sleek wolf
Yes
north aspen
It’s the best game of all time
cerulean orbit
foxhole was more popular back when we had port bases, but logi was much different back then, resources were much more available and wars lasted several months
vivid osprey
Several months?
north aspen
Months?
vivid osprey
I don't remember a single war lasting months
sleek wolf
north aspen
Blue!
plain mountain
yeah idk what alternate universe wildallan comes from but portbase wars never lasted months
the longest I can remember was 2 weeks
north aspen
Let’s ping him to tell him he’s wrong
north aspen
Because he’s colorblind
drifting heath
Let’s ping him to tell him he’s wrong
Let's not rub it in his face
Why is America blue
Yankee
north aspen
Let's not rub it in his face
Why not?
drifting heath
We are civilized people
north aspen
uncivilized brute
@drifting heath
valid wing
tbh bannerlord doesn't seem so good so far
north aspen
Banner Lord sucks, play Roblox
drifting heath
@north aspen Oh yeah… I forgot
north aspen
Can I ping him now?
north aspen
sigh
cerulean orbit
it was an exaggeration, more like 3 weeks
woven scarab
terrible how
north aspen
3 weeks =/= months
cerulean orbit
I think war 19 was pretty long, like a month or so
woven scarab
@north aspen
north aspen
Yes?
woven scarab
terrible how
north aspen
Good question
native sable
cerulean orbit
funny in italy the mayor in one city told kids outside to go inside and play on the playstation
I mean, I would have suggested a PC game over a playstation game, but the semantics are not a big deal
a console is effectively an out of dateobsolete computer with a cheap graphics card and a very restrictive operating system
woven scarab
Funny thing though, my bannerlord character looks absolutely dead inside.
It's the eyes.
They're unfocused like no one's home.
cerulean orbit
a game with no game breaking bugs in it... that sounds like you found the 90's
back when patches were like, you had to call the company or visit their website
there was a time when you bought the game on a floppy disk set or a CD and it actually worked without all this early access stuff
in a time like this, the best game would be Lemmings (1991), because that's basically what the vast majority is, just Lemmings going out to parties, getting sick a few days later and then ending up laying cold in a 53 foot refrigerated trailer because the morgues are full
shrewd flume
Games from the 90s very hella buggy, its just they ignore the beneficial ones for users to have time for the unbeneficial ones.
Morrowind notoriously had a really easy bug where you can just get infinite money. The quest you had todo was pretty easy too.
And in morrowind you got to make your own spells still just for alot of money. And there was levitation as a spell option. Basically you could win just off that alone.
cerulean orbit
I never had a problem with 90's games, the vast majority didn't have game breaking bugs
shrewd flume
yes game breaking bugs were less common but sadly not non-existent..
north aspen
Well they weren’t that complicated either
cerulean orbit
Legend of Zelda games are a great example even though they were mainly console, you can play them from start to finish without finding a bug
shrewd flume
Lets not even get into the fact you can clip out of bounds in the nintendo 64 Donkey kong on accident just with the lag that game has
cerulean orbit
it all went to crap when the Internet became mainstream
shrewd flume
Ocarina of time had ISG and that one was funny to get randomly just had to press two buttons together
cerulean orbit
companies only care about fancy graphics now, the gameplay is less important to people
shrewd flume
Also remember the negative world in the original mario game it was i think. But it was just a cool thing and you played from start to finish and didn't need more then 1 sitting to beat it.
Though i think in one mario game somtimes you could just get stuck between 4 blocks clipping into on accident
cerulean orbit
the thing is the tastes for gaming never changed much
the audience still prefers gameplay over graphics
but companies no longer value it that way because the graphics are what get the sale
we buy whatever is shiny, then we realize what's inside the package is bad and throw it out
but you can have something great inside, if it's not pretty on the outside, it gets less noticed
shrewd flume
I remember very distinctivley in german magazines for PC and console games that graphics was always super important and that was 90s stuff
We were basically riding a high with these rapid advancements we will never have again
cerulean orbit
well factorio is a perfect example of a game where graphics are not preferred over gameplay
shrewd flume
VR might eventually do it, but thats its own beast
cerulean orbit
we need more games like factorio where the gameplay and the large wealth of content in the game are most important
shrewd flume
I agree.
Companies that are bigger make to little variety of game types in general
They just say "X is dead"
And then stop making it. Despite it not being dead
cerulean orbit
best of all, since it's C/C++ based, the game is more efficient and can have more stuff in your world file without causing much lag
the higher level the language is and the more frameworks needed to run the game, the less efficient it will be which will limit what you can have in the game in terms of complexity
shrewd flume
Developing graphics and developing gameplay are very though jobs sometimes i wonder if those should be seperate and we just have "Games" and skins for them.
cerulean orbit
I may be wrong but I think foxhole followed the same path by using a more lightweight framework which enabled the game to run with better performance with many hundreds of entities on the screen
pastel yarrow
Hmm
olive thicket
sleek wolf
karmic ether
bannerlord epic gammer yes i have successfully destroyed the peace in Vlandia between the swads and rhodoks sparking a massive civil war yes
sleek wolf
overhyped
karmic ether
Dont knock it till you try it
chrome flower
Honestly i feel like all games that came out lately were overhyped
native sable
native sable
desert helm
real plinth
Wassup fuckers
raw birch
lusty yoke
woven scarab
sleek wolf
analog kernel
Super fucking concerning, someone on my apartment floor threw out a bottle of Ciprofloxacin, with their name taken off. Ciprofloxacin is an antibiotic you only use if safer alternatives don't work, as it has a lot of nasty side effects including nerve damage and tendon rupture.
Someone is exceptionally sick
north aspen
That sounds like... fun...
Spam?
Someone want to ping the mods?
But it’s spam.
Yeah, I’d suggest that, else you get banned
Still spamming in every channel possible.
Hmm
karmic ether
steam
north aspen
Ok
noble glade
@edgy siren need a hand here
north aspen
He’s spammed game design, what is wrong with him?!
karmic ether
@north aspen chill dude dont be cringe hes just promoting his stuff
But with dumb way lolol giving 10 cent games
north aspen
Do you know how many designs we’ve lost now?
edgy siren
@karmic ether yeah, let's not
north aspen
Please do
karmic ether
Ye i buy my friends $100 and they suck me off
north aspen
We’re being toxic?
karmic ether
who uses psn
edgy siren
Hang on
karmic ether
@edgy siren no offense but is being furry a trand now?
edgy siren
The fact you just joined just to share this is questionable
north aspen
Help? That didn’t help.
karmic ether
@edgy siren like do u even feel need to be furry or are u trolling
there is too many furries hese days i doubt all are for real lolol
these*
Like i can become discord furry rn by putting random animal pfp with human traits
ebon walrus
@edgy siren smack him
north aspen
We don’t hate you
karmic ether
@edgy siren dont u see he is 15 yo trying to get famous stop being a twat
north aspen
We’re just mildly annoyed and inconvenienced
edgy siren
Are you even interested in Foxhole?
karmic ether
God you all ganging up on a kid online lmao
frosty peak
he is just spamming
karmic ether
just mute him for 2 hours jeez
frosty peak
check art
north aspen
I mean...
noble glade
it woke me up...
karmic ether
@frosty peak no fuck off
edgy siren
Irregardless. Everyone calm down and carry on
karmic ether
@karmic ether ye bro they bullyong u online
north aspen
He has been spamming, but he also stopped
karmic ether
how sad
north aspen
As long as it doesn’t happen again, we’ll live
sinful bridgeBOT
BenSKS Libertà#7085 has been warned., chill out brah
north aspen
Intense staring
vivid osprey
ebon walrus
terrento came in at 200 mph and slapped that discord mod ping harder than sir hits mute
north aspen
Press F to pay respects
vivid osprey
I really wanna see what that convo was
north aspen
He tried
edgy siren
That was interesting
north aspen
Very
edgy siren
@vivid osprey advertisement
north aspen
Best advertising I’ve ever seen.
native sable
Don’t tell me F-FOD is doing advertisements like the Epoch Times on YouTube.
north aspen
Clearly
rare tiger
So...
How is things here?
north aspen
Better
rare tiger
Good?
north aspen
Is it ever good here?
kind birch
I'm always good here.
rare tiger
Yes?
I've not been around here for a while so I wouldn't know.
But I like to be optimistic
kind birch
I'm closer to nihilist but with an okay attitude.
rare moat
ＩＦ ＹＯＵ ＡＲＥ ＲＥＡＤＩＮＧ ＴＨＩＳ ＴＨＥＮ ＹＯＵ ＷＩＬＬ ＤＩＥ ＩＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＳＬＥＥＰ ＴＯＮＩＧＨＴ. ＩＦ ＹＯＵ ＣＯＰＹ ＴＨＩＳ ＯＮ ＡＮＯＴＨＥＲ ＧＲＯＵＰ , ＹＯＵ ＷＩＬＬ ＨＡＶＥ ＧＯＯＤ ＬＵＣＫ ＦＯＲＥＶＥＲ. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
north aspen
Good thing I have plenty of shirts here.
drifting heath
sleek aspen
We lost 2 war
karmic ether
And don't seek to lose third one, German
scenic thunder
cerulean orbit
they can dream about turning blue during their medically induced coma
sleek wolf
why do the french love smurfs
charred vigil
because they're french
cerulean orbit
if they can't see the microscopic savagery going on, they don't believe it exists
I'm glad I never studied to be a doctor. It would be terrible trying to explain to people how to save themselves from an enemy that is 120 nanometers in size. Let's not forget all the resistance you have to go through trying to explain to the masses that a ghost can't make a magic trick to save them from it either.
I mean, if all we had to do was put our palms together and stare at the sky, can you imagine how much money we could save by not using GPS technology or you know, computers to figure things out with
olive thicket
@rare moat 
no u
rare moat
lol
plain mountain
coroner viral
cursive solar
I-I’m gonna coof
plain mountain
kind birch
My stellaris empire is called COVFEFEID-19
distant violet
@kind birch coronavirus requires me to participate in school online and im now gunna fail
cursive solar
April 1st will not be a joke anymore
sleek wolf
dont you fucking smoke weed again @distant violet
sleek wolf
because i luv u bb
distant violet
who r u xD
plain mountain
I feel bad every time I cough but then I remember I have a post nasal drip from allergies
distant violet
after i clicked and saw ur flag i i realise it was you
sleek wolf
❤️
distant violet
same @plain mountain i take a rip of the bong and cough like 5min later and im like omg i have corona]
plain mountain
lol
sleek wolf
thats because your lungs are dying
distant violet
im not cou8ghing rn
sleek wolf
good 😍
distant violet
colonials have toilet paper.
pastel yarrow
Yeee
woven scarab
this picture makes me sad :'(
https://i.imgur.com/18tCxVg.jpg
sleek wolf
imgur makes me sad
lime junco
cerulean orbit
russian and canadian governments apparently agree on one thing: the liquor stores are an essential service
karmic ether
Are you implying that liquor isn't essential?
cerulean orbit
well homebrew is what most people do in canada, not because of the rules but to save money
maybe not the city slickers in canada though
north aspen
But what if people need more than they can brew? What then?
cerulean orbit
go without or pay the horrible prices at the LCBO
karmic ether
Or, man up and go out into the world Stalker style.
Wear your hazmat suit to the market to buy a pack of beer.
north aspen
But we already established that liquor is a need, so we have to go with the second option
cerulean orbit
well the gov needs its alcohol tax revenue
people gotta stop hugging each other in montreal man, they're spreading corona like love and it's not lovable
plain mountain
it's beautiful
karmic ether
Lol
Hes like yeah southern empire has been goin good
I ask for the map and i ask "evan where are the nords"
Apparently now they are mercenaries, you can find them in almost any army
scarlet pilot
bannerlord
karmic ether
Hey yall, so this is random, im from the south and im talkin to my midwestern friend right?
Is it normal for people from the midwest to have no sense of cuisine
north aspen
Perhaps
karmic ether
mhm mhm
Because this man, just said, he was eating cheesesticks, with fucking pineapple juice dip
north aspen
Not normal
paper timber
what relevance does that have to the current conversation
charred vigil
rookie numbers
charred vigil
Rock and Stone brotha !
karmic ether
I hope they gonna optimize the game for lower end PCs like they said they would cuz the beta was really laggy to me
karmic ether
Typing practice and me...wont get along
karmic ether
Harvesting season has finally arrived
abstract furnace
woven scarab
thin void
no
cerulean orbit
happy april fools, the baloneyvirus has taken over facebook and convinced the masses to buy out the toilet paper
the kebeckers gotta stop coughin' on each other or we'll change their roadsigns to english only
north aspen
What is sanity and do I have it?
cerulean orbit
well let's just give you the recipie for disaster
so the food comes from farming, and farming employs foreign workers from mexico, and mexico has no protection measures in place to stop the spread of corona, and so the workers on the farms are coming in sick and not able to produce food
there's always solutions of course, but that means hiring canadians/americans and now your food is triple the price
neat lichen
are we pretending that up until now us had any real mesures 
sleek wolf
north aspen
Scary
cerulean orbit
what's scary :O
north aspen
So anyways, does anyone know the stability of their country? If you made it to 100% how much political power do you have?
north aspen
Russia and China and the Middle East
meager breach
When you could use the money to solve your poverty
north aspen
We need a strong military to hold our future holdings in Africa
meager breach
...
north aspen
Tactics
karmic ether
did i ask?
karmic ether
cool
north aspen
You have the flanks, and outnumber them, they aren’t coming back from that.
cerulean orbit
well the best thing is to not elect boneheads into power, I mean, that is pretty much the first part of any western strategy
sleek wolf
strategy is the grand battle plan. tactics is small unit
north aspen
^
sleek wolf
you @karmic ether used tactics
sleek wolf
your goal is to conquer their kingdom
north aspen
The ultimate goal is to take the victory points
karmic ether
whats that gotta do with me not askin?
sleek wolf
karmic ether
im just defending my choice m8
sleek wolf
you said you didnt ask
north aspen
That’s not a defense
karmic ether
why are you two startin an argument again?
sleek wolf
because your wrong
karmic ether
if you say so
sleek wolf
know so
north aspen
Because your being contradictory, which is slightly aggravating for no reason.
karmic ether
im not going to bother with this, remindin me why i stopped bein in FOD
sleek wolf
also this is America
cerulean orbit
dictators can't run their country without high levels of education, you can see the world as an example - Hu Jintao was a Hydraulic Engineer
sleek wolf
so i can do whatever i want
cerulean orbit
on the other hand there are others who have never graduated high school and they are generally not doing well
karmic ether
i wouldn't say hitler "did pretty well" tbh
sleek wolf
dont get him started on his panzer fantasy pess
north aspen
I mean, up until Britain stopped surrendering
sleek wolf
he is a warthunder player and will educate you on tonks
karmic ether
Lol
cerulean orbit
lol
karmic ether
I dislike the german tanks, and their design philosophy
north aspen
Once Britain failed to surrender like they were supposed to, they stopped doing so well, though he did conquer most of Europe.
cerulean orbit
the tanks were square likely because they were in a rush to produce them
ebon walrus
german tanks are the shit dafuq are yall high on
cerulean orbit
and they didnt have solidworks back then
karmic ether
Nah its not that, its that with each new model they continued to add things, making it take more time to fully get them out into action
ebon walrus
definately the coolest cats on the block
north aspen
And I mean, they weren’t in a terrible situation once Britain didn’t surrender, it was just very very bad.
ebon walrus
jumbo is a meme
karmic ether
jumbo is a THICCY boy
north aspen
Tanks are big and have cool guns
ebon walrus
bish please
north aspen
You have been educated
cerulean orbit
how about this, canadians will help educate americans so they don't degrade into the stone age
ebon walrus
I know my tanks
karmic ether
^
sleek wolf
ok warthunder scrub
ebon walrus
ok memer
sleek wolf
have you ever actually seen or worked on a real german tank
ebon walrus
yes and no
karmic ether
lol
sleek wolf
then sush
north aspen
The best tank of all is the water tank, promoting peace, with pets
sleek wolf
your logic is false
ebon walrus
ooo we got a big man over here
ebon walrus
how was your experiance working on german tanks?
north aspen
Sure they are probably the worse pets in the world, but hey, fish are all right
So water tanks are pretty great
sleek wolf
best tank is the water tanks that help us get warm water everyday
north aspen
^
north aspen
Anyways, in conclusion, get a dog or a cat, they are great pets.
ebon walrus
get a big cat
sleek wolf
dogs are better
cerulean orbit
they also bark when an intruder gets close
ebon walrus
my cat barks
karmic ether
cat > dog
cerulean orbit
I need to see a barking cat
north aspen
Dog = cat
ebon walrus
fuck I dont think i have a cat
karmic ether
lol
cerulean orbit
I got a feeling the barking cat is something on the adult web
ebon walrus
its ok child you are safe here
cerulean orbit
perfect
cerulean orbit
CBC radio is in french, I just want to poke my eyes out
north aspen
Wait what?
cerulean orbit
ironically their stuff is typed out
north aspen
They’re invading the Baltic’s again?
ebon walrus
oh yeah its baltic invasion time
cerulean orbit
quebeckers are hugging each other again today and spreading the corona
karmic ether
yah its just rise of tensions over the suwalki gap
nato was gonna do excercises to say "ay yo fuck off" but those are cancled due to corona
so
epic 😎
sleek wolf
imagine fighting a war while dealing with a virus
north aspen
Wasn’t Finland first last time?
karmic ether
what?
north aspen
No it was Poland first
karmic ether
why are you comparing this to the 1930s and 40s?
north aspen
yes
karmic ether
???
cerulean orbit
imagine fighting an enemy as small as 120 nanometers
north aspen
Wait, so Baltic happened, then Finland after Poland, right?
cerulean orbit
and you dont have to fight it, you just have to maintain distance from others and wear a mask
ebon walrus
yeah
cerulean orbit
but people can't do basic things
north aspen
And then the whole Germany fiasco
ebon walrus
germany is gonna declare war on france agan
karmic ether
i really doubt it
ebon walrus
bet
cerulean orbit
idk but I can see the new american civil war coming
north aspen
No, they’re going to declare war on Poland
karmic ether
also cool think yall might wanna check out: between the seas initiative
ebon walrus
nah ill pass
north aspen
Then France will back them up
karmic ether
why is everything ww2 with you people?
ebon walrus
Leopard vs Leclerc
ebon walrus
why are you typing in bold
karmic ether
because im at a loss
cerulean orbit
the biggest will probably be a political war inside the states
ebon walrus
you are infact, hopeless
drifting heath
We won't declare war on nobody. Our economy is dying, we can't fix foreign economies too
north aspen
Then of course there’s the whole Munich thing
Your economy is dying?
How many failed artists are there?
cerulean orbit
especially if corona makes a comeback in the fall
astral moss
Lol our gas is 1.80 a gallon
ebon walrus
fine then maybe russia will have a naval war with japan to spice things up
astral moss
And our dollar is based on the petrol cost
north aspen
Who will win this time?
drifting heath
All economies are dying, tbh
north aspen
Germany has to rebuild their economy, then the war will start
Remind you of something?
ebon walrus
nO NeW CaSees Of COroNa In CHiNa
karmic ether
@ebon walrus bro epic dude i belive them 1000000% percen!\
drifting heath
Nah… we have no interest in fixing your problems by annexing you. Fix it yourselves
cerulean orbit
canada will switch to a farming and toilet paper export economy
north aspen
How to fix viruses: social distancing, if you’re sick, avoid zoom.
ebon walrus
zoomer took on a new meaning
cerulean orbit
so many trees man so many trees
north aspen
Killed for tp
cerulean orbit
or heck we can just make more video games and sell them to america on steam
but if we don't send them ventilators we won't have a lot of people to play those games
ebon walrus
using an american platform is a good way to sell americans games
but epic games store gives u more money
cerulean orbit
honestly I feel bad for all the obese peeps they are gonna need millions of ventilators and a lot of luck
ebon walrus
what
cerulean orbit
a ventilator is basically a life support system that concentrates oxygen into a stable purity and uses a positive pressure device to basically force air into someone's lungs and then help them to exhale
cerulean orbit
people aren't taking this problem seriously and I'm tasked with encouraging people to take it more seriously
north aspen
Tanks are good, but only if you have oil
And with nowhere to get oil, Germany lost
Though oil isn’t the only reason
General supply issues were a problem, and Germany needed more subs
Not to mention they didn’t have the manpower ready for an invasion of the Soviet Union
north aspen
The Soviet Union didn’t only throw troops at Germany, however they lost more manpower, but could continue to replace them
cerulean orbit
my country recently passed laws requiring companies to encourage others to take the epidemic more seriously, though sadly many companies seem to be trying to shun the conversation instead of doing what the law requires
north aspen
Meanwhile every man lost on Germany’s side was a big hit, and they couldn’t replace them.
ebon walrus
shush I know how WW2 went down im talking about TANKS
north aspen
I don’t know tanks
ebon walrus
shame
north aspen
Big gun cool tracks, big armor
north aspen
WWI tanks looked cool
In conclusion, make sure you have all the supplies you need for a war before the war
ebon walrus
from what I heard, germany would have to have waited untill 1942 to be fully prepared for war
in which case the soviets would have a shit ton of t34s
north aspen
Not to mention the U.K and France would have mobilized,
That is a lot more time for them to realize Germany isn’t backing down.
ebon walrus
eh idk if their reaction would be any different after poland
chamberlain might have stayed as PM
north aspen
Hmm, yeah
If Chaimberlain had stayed when France died, Germany might have one
Won*
north aspen
Question that must be answered, is referencing Last Stand too religious for the server rules?
cerulean orbit
I would worry more about what your local country laws are more than what the server rules are
ebon walrus
pfffft
north aspen
Country laws?
cerulean orbit
well you know, like in canada if you say the coronavirus is a hoax, even if it's just a comment online, it's a $1000 fine - and while people weren't charged before, they are charged now because of the seriousness of the problem
north aspen
Meanwhile in America...
cerulean orbit
the fine doubles for each offense
cerulean orbit
for a company, so if it's an officer in a company (manager/director or major shareholder) it's like a 50k fine
some people thought it was a joke until they got their ticket
neat lichen
lol
karmic ether
hearty coral
.
sleek wolf
crystal thistle
I actually do have a "leaving the house" license 😄
abstract furnace
north aspen
My OCD like brain is the only reason I'm here.
burnt swift
bum
outer trout
https://www.twitch.tv/dingusinc CREATING CONTENT WideHardo
north aspen
Thank goodness the pain is gone.
drowsy cipher
My city's symphonic orquestra did a game soundtrack show last year but i couldnt attend unfortunately
willow fjord
The amount of people reading rotten media here that think it's all govt conspiracy is alarming
People are leaving their houses already for that reason and I wouldn't be surprised if they will do something very stupid like public protest very soon.
Dumb brits you deserve to get hit by this
willow fjord
This is day one and does not represent anything other than how it should look outside
If a 40 million people country capital can look like this everywhere should look like this
near jewel
Yeah
native sable
karmic ether
I don't get this.
north aspen
Coexistence is dumb
willow fjord
It is probably way over that for weeks now
abstract furnace
Indeed
willow fjord
I don't think any country except for maybe South Korea does enough tests to have any idea of the actual spread
desert helm
And you have places like China that outright stopped testing
karmic ether
I mean, China hasn't always been honest with us.
For all we know, the million cases mark could've been surpassed long ago, China's a packed country.
abstract furnace
When message come to my phone, a lot of corona infectee where they go or visist about their location
desert helm
Well.
Wuhan Alone had a surge in Cremations. Over 40,000 urns disbursed.
Even if we account for typical natural causes, thats over 30,000 dead.
willow fjord
The app they made in South Korea should be implemented everywhere honestly. Privacy goes to hell but it helps
karmic ether
Also, while we're discussing Wu Flu, I'd just like to put this here.
willow fjord
Well China is out of the equation already since they walled themselves off so their data does not matter at all at this point
north aspen
Screw data, just stay inside
willow fjord
I've seen people angry at so many things including the british govt, chinese, chinese officials, chinese health care professionals etc.
north aspen
People like to get angry
willow fjord
The thing is everyone is guilty for the spread, if they want to find the culprit just one glance at the mirror is enough
north aspen
But blaming other people is so much easier
karmic ether
I mean, people get angry at anything, but I can see being angry at the CCP as justifiable.
willow fjord
Maybe it is but it's funny to be angry at china when you ignore the guidelines in your own country and possibly spread it unknowingly yourself
best example is, brits banned lifts to work and when I called and asked for details they said it's banned because it contributes to the spread. When I asked how I am supposed to get to work they said "call a taxi"
karmic ether
I mean I can understand that, but the CCP isn't exactly being entirely honest with us.
willow fjord
This is a country I live in ladies and gentlemen
karmic ether
Last I checked, when a couple WHO officials were sent to investigate the origin, the Chinese government sent then right back out.
willow fjord
You need to take any info from WHO with a grain of salt that's one, leave the conspiracy/anger for the time after the pandemic ends
karmic ether
Will do, but I'm still not trusting those Commies over there.
willow fjord
And the ashes thing, you know you can be sentenced on the spot by military if needed and executed right away?
karmic ether
Wait what?
willow fjord
It's not covid if you shoot them in the back of the head before their body gives up
In China obviously dude
karmic ether
I did not know that.
desert helm
There is evidence of people being bolted into their homes preventing them from finding treatment
karmic ether
I mean, I will say this it sounds like something Jinping would order, but that just surprises me.
willow fjord
It was implemented during the global terrorism panic and as far as I know it's still in effect there
karmic ether
Oh, that makes sense now.
cerulean orbit
willow fjord
It's not as extreme as you may think, the person does judge the case for real and if he cannot prove it was for greater good he may face the same soon after
But in pandemic environment you can probably count infected leaving their house as a terrorist attack attempt
short berry
Thats an over reaction
Endangering public health is more like it
Its not like youre branded a bio terrorist as soon as you open the door
north aspen
Yes you are
karmic ether
I mean, even if it's endangering public health, executing someone on the spot for going outside their house is just extreme.
short berry
Maybe in china LOL
north aspen
I'd say it's extreme everywhere
karmic ether
Better yet, it's not as bad as the wet markets they have.
north aspen
Bio-terrorist
short berry
Xd
north aspen
How dare you
cerulean orbit
I think it depends on where it is done
karmic ether
They literally slaughter the meat and butcher it up then and there on the floor, no care for what the conditions are.
north aspen
too graphic, goodbye
cerulean orbit
if you live in an area where your neighbour is 500 feet away I think you can go outside
short berry
You can go outside
cerulean orbit
like on a farm your neighbour could be 2 kilometers away
short berry
Dont touch your face, wash hands regularly keep distance limit human contact
willow fjord
The point is to avoid social contacts to bare minimum with special caution in shops and high trafic confined spaces
willow fjord
There is no way it will actually work because Europeans and Americans are spoiled to the point of no return
cerulean orbit
canadians are spoiled more than americans I bet
north aspen
That is a bit insulting
willow fjord
Like we are better in any way because we live in the more fortunate part of the world
cerulean orbit
at least we get a few pennies to live on through the support benefit program starting april 6th
north aspen
You're not entirely wrong though
karmic ether
@cerulean orbit You mean Trumpy bucks?
willow fjord
and drop in cases in china does not surprise me, they have a) experience and b) more suited society
north aspen
I probably shouldn't be saying anything, it's not like I understand anything
cerulean orbit
no the trumpy bucks is a one time payment of 1200USD, ours will be 2000CAD per month for 3 months
karmic ether
Jesus fucking Christ.
north aspen
The penny isn't very fun
short berry
The only one country thats not up to the task currently is is the us
cerulean orbit
our program will likely be extended past 3 months if the virus lasts longer
short berry
mr trumpy pants wanting everything to be open again by easter
err thats not correct
the only countries that arent up to the task is the ones sticking their head in the sand
sweden, the US, russia and brazil come to mind
cerulean orbit
but on 1200USD you could probably live on that for quite a while if you were frugal
north aspen
I'm going to sit here and pretend I know what I'm saying
willow fjord
Well noone is up to the task it's as uncontained as it can get in so short timeframe. South Koreans are doing great mostly because of experience and how humble and distanced they are in general.
short berry
south korea is doing great because they have enormous test capacity and tracking everyone that comes into contact with the virus
karmic ether
@cerulean orbit Actually, I could live for a few months on that.
cerulean orbit
the funny thing is the US bailout will give the poor people 1200USD and people making over a certain income, I think over 75k or so they get 2500USD
short berry
china is doing great because they obfuscate their own numbers
karmic ether
Beef, bread, and potatoes comes pretty cheap.
willow fjord
The second social distancing will give noticeable effects people in the country will get over-optimistic and it all will strike again
cerulean orbit
our support payments will be for anyone who made at least 5kCAD in the past 12 months
karmic ether
Plus, so does propane.
north aspen
yes, let's all rely on potatoes
raw birch
north aspen
That worked for the Irish!
raw birch
Bannerlord in a nutshell
cerulean orbit
so the wealthier americans will get double the support cheque that the poorer ones will get, but no income requirement
cerulean orbit
but if you worked as a summer student at minimum wage, you likely made well over the 5000CAD threshold required for eligibility into our program
short berry
tfw
north aspen
This seems like an amazing system, glad I live here
willow fjord
I can't stress enough how lucky we are it's coronavirus and it has rather low mortality rate
cerulean orbit
pess you in canada too?
short berry
I worked 5 and a half month and just not elligible unemployment benefits
north aspen
No, america
cerulean orbit
oh
north aspen
Are you talking about the Canadian system?
cerulean orbit
I was talking about both systems
willow fjord
Imagine blood fever with a spread like this thing in current day and age and lack of preparation
north aspen
Is ours any good at all?
cerulean orbit
in the US, the people under 50k or so get 1200USD as one time payment, no income required, the wealthier americans I think trump said people making over 75k or so will get 2500USD one time payment
cerulean orbit
in canada our system will give 2000CAD per month for 3 months but to be eligible you have to have made at least 5000CAD in the previous 12 months
north aspen
Or less?
cerulean orbit
or more
north aspen
Wait
cerulean orbit
it essentially cuts off people who are already getting welfare
cerulean orbit
yes but it must be employment income as well
the benefit is only for working people
welfare is separate and will continue the way it always did
north aspen
I probably need to know how Canadian welfare system works and whatnot if I want to continue in this conversation.
willow fjord
We have govt 80% salary help for those who can't continue their work in the time like this
cerulean orbit
so most university students will be eligible for the benefit because most of them worked over the summer and likely all made way over 5k
north aspen
That's good?
cerulean orbit
yea
there's also a 75% wage subsidy but if you get the wage subsidy then you don't get the support benefit payment
willow fjord
Some companies like Morrisons pay full 100 percent and they gave a bonus to their workers that are still there doing their job
cerulean orbit
so if you are already working, the gov will give you an extra 75% of what your normal wages are currently (if your hours were reduced because of the crisis)
north aspen
So Canada is doing pretty well?
cerulean orbit
yeah I would say so
north aspen
Meanwhile in America...
cerulean orbit
just have to get the quebeckers to stop coughing on each other lol
it's because in montreal people are stacked like sardines in basement dwellings
north aspen
I really no nothing about our naighbors
cerulean orbit
you'll hear them a lot when the flooding starts in May
north aspen
All I know is that you're north and used to be British/French
cerulean orbit
every spring there's flooding along the saint lawrence in montreal and quebec area
and they all live in basements so they wake up and see their printer floating away and then call for help, canada has to always send in the reserves with boats to help them out
north aspen
Flood + corona = HELP!
cerulean orbit
I mean a long term solution is just to... not make basements in the first place in areas with high chances of flooding every year
but it is quebec after all
cerulean orbit
yeah and corona can survive in water for a long time too
willow fjord
We can be positive about it, considering how all previous viruses we researched worked it will surely end at some point
cerulean orbit
and it stays active in the sewer system
if montreal were smart they would be dumping some chemicals in the sewer now, even if it becomes an environmental concern later, it will help in the long run
willow fjord
and it won't survive for too long in huge bodies of water for 2 reasons: this virus is harmful to humans but it's food for microorganisms and it dilutes very fast
cerulean orbit
I wouldn't doubt that the experts are already making suggestions
yeah the thing is it has been checked out and apparently it can survive a long time in the sewer system
the gov is already looking into testing waste treatment centers to see the spread of the virus
willow fjord
I don't think killing off the bacteria will help here, quite the opposite and to degrade the virus you need either high volumes of chemicals or stuff that will be harmful to humans too
cerulean orbit
it is too much to test every single person, but if they test every single waste treatment center, that's very doable
desert helm
yfw couldn't get an internship
willow fjord
I don't think you can accumulate enough virus in the sewers to infect people even if your entire city coughed directly into it
desert helm
yfw no free mani from Canadian Government
willow fjord
although infecting dose is still pretty much unknown for SARS-CoV2 so I may be wrong
cerulean orbit
the bigger concern is the regular drinking water supplies, but that is being studied now
willow fjord
They found it's genes not the virus
that's a huge difference because the virus itself is rather fragile machinery and as I said food for many microorganisms
cerulean orbit
if you read the article you can see where it says "research showed that the virus sheds into stool and that 23 percent of patients remained positive in stool after showing negative respiratory samples" which explains how people who show no symptoms are still able to spread the virus
willow fjord
if it was the case you would have huge spikes in cases after rainy periods but that's not happening
cerulean orbit
the original theory is that the virus came from bat stool to begin with, which is a good place to start looking for early transmission
willow fjord
I did read it and it still does not mean the virus can survive long enough in sewers to be a real problem
cerulean orbit
chinese research theorizes that it combined viruses from the bat to a pangolin or snake and then formed the new virus that transmitted to humans, though there is no evidence to support the theory yet
willow fjord
and it did not, the suspect are pangolins, snakes or cats as a direct medium and the virus originated in bats
which does not mean it can jump from bats to humans, we have yet to see it happen
if it sheds to stool it for sure can cause infections but still, you need a virus contact with your mucus membranes
I can see it happen in rural China but modern Europe/Northern America? nah
cerulean orbit
Hamilton, Ontario is a good example of a city that learned long ago when humans were dying off in masses and nobody could quite figure out why, it turned out that they were dumping sewage into Lake Ontario and then using the same water for drinking water
willow fjord
Yes but there is a difference in living organisms and viruses
cerulean orbit
there are a lot of pathogens that come from waste water and in countries like china or india it is common to not have access to clean drinking water
willow fjord
There is just as much of the virus out there that left human body, where living organisms can multiply from stool in lake ontario and cause serious issues even if there is very little sewege dumped
cerulean orbit
well despite this, we don't have enough funding into medical research like we have for something like a rocket taking a car to space, so we are kind of left with just theories
willow fjord
Here unless there is abnormal amount of the virus dumped into the water there is very little chance you will catch it even if it survives long enough to reach the facility UNLESS the viral load of infected is absurdly high and infectious dose absurdly low which does not seem to be the case at all
north aspen
It would likely be beneficial for me to read this to understand things, but also, it's big
cerulean orbit
for the cost of sending a sports car to space, that money could have been better spent building micron microscopes for the universities in the world so we can advance ourselves instead of advancing a marketing strategy for a car manufacturer