road to 200k messages

[elder cargo]

if you’re paying for review, anything short of top 10k is failure

[prime plinth]

How much is review

[hollow ermine]

Bar city assets what am I getting in fh6 @broken patio m?

[prime plinth]

I'm in the review chat and have no idea

[hollow ermine]

I’m thinking of subbing to ffs

[acoustic edge]

bro ibeg ur wifi dies

ask in analcord

[zenith jolt]

type shi

[barren geyser]

We're going down

[violet temple]

damn might have to take my palace opinion back lacroix rotates quite well with vdb

vdv*

[hollow ermine]

I have sarr

Could see myself playing him a few times tbh

Sarr playing that enzo type role

Same with ayari

[cedar hull]

@zenith jolt thoughts?

[zenith jolt]

@acoustic edge beat you to it

[cedar hull]

Ah fuck I'm late

[hollow ermine]

Analcord locked?

[violet temple]

alr I cooked up something finally

[cedar hull]

Where ndoye

[novel harbor]

ye this looks very good

[violet temple]

I'll find a way don't u worry

[violet temple]

I need 0.5m somehow

[novel harbor]

i dont think solanke will start gw1 personally tho but guess we'll see

[acoustic edge]

who r u ???

[prime plinth]

How much is it lol

[wanton whale]

4.5 keeper?

[cedar hull]

Triocta is gonna pay for review anyway dw

[zenith jolt]

Literally

[violet temple]

@cedar hull What's ur plan with forest vs palace gw 2 gonna be a huge fix clash no?

[prime plinth]

I have the best fpl team. Just copy and move on

[novel harbor]

review vs solio about to go crazy

[broken patio]

Well it means you can load up on palace outside in your normal team and free hit them out in 6
Basically allows you to go heavy on any liverpool, arsenal, Newcastle, palace players in your main team and avoid them all in gw6 (Newcastle play arsenal, Liverpool play palace) (Salah still good Vs palace but you could bet against him)

Then on fh6, you get Haaland, who is the best captain pick by a mile and captain him, 2 other city. And then load up on spurs Vs wolves, forest Vs Sunderland, Bournemouth Vs Leeds

[acoustic edge]

will copy analcord dw

[cedar hull]

I didn't know there was anything past gw1 tbh

[acoustic edge]

just wc7 and salah mateta -> haaland mgw gw6

[prime plinth]

Arsenal suck till gw 7

[violet temple]

💔

[prime plinth]

Only relevant fixture for arsenal is first 2

[violet temple]

seeing ppl on double palace triple forest just for them to play vs each other gw2 😭

[wanton whale]

fixture clashes are a myth anyway

[prime plinth]

Which is only viable wc4 and no salah

Or no palmer

[broken patio]

Yeah wc7 looks good and it allows you to deadend gw6. I like WC 13 though

[wanton whale]

wtf why is Kek moving

am i tripping

[violet temple]

Take a guess

[cedar hull]

Lmao

[wanton whale]

im actually hungover

[prime plinth]

0-0 masterclass or sarr haul

[cedar hull]

Basically one of them cleans

[prime plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/banker-gary-neville-banker-neville-banker-gary-neville-this-was-the-banker-gif-9340371699841682336

[violet temple]

The last game says NO

1-1 😭

[prime plinth]

Sarr scored i bet

[wanton whale]

Munoz and Murillo both scored lad

[cedar hull]

And guess what? Murillo scored

[violet temple]

oh my god that will surely repeat itself

Who made this guy helper

oh no not u too classiic

[wanton whale]

they say lightening doesnt strike twice

[violet temple]

I'm going back to fpl chat

[novel harbor]

murillo and lacroix bullet headers we will be there

[prime plinth]

Steelix coping with Gabriel vvd and gvardiol

[violet temple]

I don't own gabriel vvd or gvardiol what u tryna say?

[wanton whale]

what is this monstrosity

[violet temple]

Evanilson going under the radar ngl

[prime plinth]

Proof

[wanton whale]

no pens but yeah good for 7m

[novel harbor]

i think its becuz bmouth look straight ass

[wanton whale]

pool away so not many want to spend 7m too bench

[violet temple]

already sent my team above

[prime plinth]

A perfect team? Just bench kudus vs city for lacroix

[wanton whale]

bou have crazy good fixtures

[novel harbor]

who r u rotating lacroix with then? vdv?

[wanton whale]

triple forest defense is like the biggest overkill

[violet temple]

Yes

Just saw they acc rotate quite well

[novel harbor]

ye

they do

[violet temple]

still gotta decide if I want tark Or na

[prime plinth]

Wilson

[violet temple]

but we got loads of time to think about that

[cedar hull]

Review launched now, incoming content creator drafts

[hollow ermine]

How long you lot been in analcord

[wanton whale]

review dropped? nice time to make a team

[novel harbor]

no brainer for me lol 70% cbit hit rate last season

[violet temple]

if it's some monstrosity defence istg

[cedar hull]

Nah it's tielemans or some bs

[prime plinth]

Tark with no branthwaite over murrilo and milenkovic

[cedar hull]

Because pens mean everything for review

[novel harbor]

nah it will pretty much be variations of what we've concocted in here tbh

[prime plinth]

Review is fraud

[wanton whale]

we taking Isak at newcastle?

[prime plinth]

Fpl can't be determined by previous data. Only relevant thing for gw 1 is fixtures and reliable minutes

[frank mulch]

Review won’t be on 5atb 😭

[prime plinth]

And cbit

[novel harbor]

with probs the odd random midfielder

[prime plinth]

That can be more obvious

[novel harbor]

neither are we mostly

but 4ATB

i think they will be 4atb with rotating midfielder

[prime plinth]

4atb is valid cause the 6.5m and under mids and strikers are

[hollow ermine]

Almost 4

Going to do weekly Saturday goon

Ping when carvalho announces himself

[wanton whale]

4 atb is meta

[earnest torrent]

Which is better JSL Marmoush or Solanke Semenyo?

[zenith jolt]

review wont be what you expect it to be fyi

[prime plinth]

4atb will be meta but idm my kudus gw1 draft

Bit more upside ig

[hollow ermine]

None?

[cedar hull]

Review doesn't know about the glory that is cbits

[earnest torrent]

Hmm

[prime plinth]

Review is trash

[cedar hull]

352 with Bruno and tielemans or smth

[violet temple]

Watch it be something like tark milenkovic murillo lacroix gabriel

[prime plinth]

I'm hating ofc but review is no fun

[violet temple]

or vvd

[wanton whale]

bruno will 100 percent be there

[novel harbor]

this time it kind of has to be to an extent

[prime plinth]

Sarrr

[hollow ermine]

What is reveiw

[novel harbor]

cbit is meta theres no doubt about it

the maths is there

[prime plinth]

Bruno

Eze

[zenith jolt]

no thats what people think it will be

[wanton whale]

ye 100 percent sarr

[novel harbor]

its just whether they've gone with 4.5's they think will do well cbit wise

[violet temple]

what do u reckon the defence will be?

[novel harbor]

or they've gone with the proven

[hollow ermine]

What is review

[novel harbor]

cbit's

[zenith jolt]

itll have esteve andersen

ive seen dalot

[prime plinth]

I have sarr but I'm just trolling

[violet temple]

Also 98.3k messages would be a real shame if a mod deleted this thread

[novel harbor]

ye i also think it'll have andersen

[zenith jolt]

and probs a spurs def

[violet temple]

esteve is solid tbf I have him too

[prime plinth]

First 3 aren't good enough for me to go sarr

[novel harbor]

i have esteve too

[violet temple]

I have a review kinda team ig

[zenith jolt]

ndiaye and tielemans both locks in midfield

[novel harbor]

huh

[hollow ermine]

Is reveiw that AI Thing?

[violet temple]

I don't have a review ah team

[novel harbor]

really?

[zenith jolt]

bruno aswell

[hollow ermine]

What’s reveiw

Answer me

Or I end this thread

[violet temple]

glad to know review users arent gonna be in the good ranks

[novel harbor]

i dont know what data they could be going off to even consider tielemans

[violet temple]

End it

I'll end u

[novel harbor]

bruno make sense

i'd have bruno if he wasnt overpriced

[slim bane]

Fplreview

Calculates moves based on EV

[fathom bison]

The ultimate FPL planning toolkit, fueled by the Massive Data projection model and integrated transfer solver.

[hollow ermine]

So how would you know what reveiw considers meta

Does it say it

[fathom bison]

Pay for it probs

[slim bane]

yea

You run a certain depth

[cedar hull]

Review literally doesn't consider attackers that don't have pens it's unreal

[slim bane]

set certain parameters or use their default

[zenith jolt]

lmao

[violet temple]

so ndoye will be kept under the radar

cool

[zenith jolt]

it has watkins and tielemans for 100% pen coverage

smart

[violet temple]

How do u know so much

[zenith jolt]

idk

[novel harbor]

right lemme go pay for it and see for myself

[earnest torrent]

Thoughts on this havent thought much about this team since launch lol

[wanton whale]

who tf is ndoye

[violet temple]

Oh the review teams alr out?

[zenith jolt]

you'll get addicted

[earnest torrent]

Worked on it today

[zenith jolt]

and you also won't know how to use it

[novel harbor]

i wont

[violet temple]

that's my helper right there

[novel harbor]

i probably will

[slim bane]

Default solve

[hollow ermine]

So like you ask them to auto pick for you?

[zenith jolt]

🤷

[wanton whale]

6m forest mid?

[slim bane]

Kindaa

[violet temple]

Yeah lol

[violet temple]

Yeah

[wanton whale]

why would you want him

[violet temple]

I don't hate the draft for some reason

[violet temple]

Forest winger 6m what's not there to like

[silent jasper]

don't like Marmoush because is he nailed? Feel that Rogers is better

[novel harbor]

is it just like player input and solver stuff? if so then ye

i will

[fathom bison]

4/11

[wanton whale]

is he good

[zenith jolt]

if you have previous experience with solvers then ok

[violet temple]

Got u beat 3/11

[violet temple]

that's for u to decide

[earnest torrent]

Marmoush to Rogers JSL to Solanke?

[slim bane]

yea I got turned off cos I couldn’t understand the site lmaoo

Boomer moment

[violet temple]

how can u do jsl to semenyo

[earnest torrent]

Wrong S guy

[quick dawn]

looks kinda terrible

[violet temple]

loll

[wanton whale]

oh shit hes that switzerland winger

[obtuse shoal]

I’m pretty sure it does.

[wanton whale]

wait he was well good

[violet temple]

too bad I can't even afford bro

[cedar hull]

Review is all about rotations and pen takers to play optimally it's so boring man

[silent jasper]

yeah I have both Rogers and Solanke atm, might change Solanke depending on the situation because there might be other better fwd/mid/def to have

[violet temple]

0.5 short

[wanton whale]

exactly my point 😈

[zenith jolt]

one thing review does cook on is rotations

[prime plinth]

Ok last draft I'll sneak in

[zenith jolt]

so the romero/dalot shit does make sense to me

[wanton whale]

you got this king

[wanton whale]

that ethan pinnock screamer is gonna hurt

[earnest torrent]

Why are people tripling up on Forest

[prime plinth]

Rotation in gks is never optimal

[earnest torrent]

Is there something i missed

[violet temple]

why is one person tripling up on forest*

[earnest torrent]

Lmao

[violet temple]

Good fixs decent defence

Many ppl have 2 I'm rocking only one

[prime plinth]

Source: every season ever

[violet temple]

Some cbit beasts too apparently

[earnest torrent]

I feel they are going to fall off this season

[violet temple]

Likewise

[silent jasper]

@earnest torrent lowkey Gakpo might be good because he should be starting LW (unless there is some Pool youngster starting over him) or formation change etc
But Wirtz is an option too though, very difficult to pick

[earnest torrent]

I wont be touching much on their players

[hollow ermine]

So review is just that ai review that gives you a better rating the closer you are to their idea of meta?

[earnest torrent]

I'm going with the shiny new toy

[slim bane]

get both

[cedar hull]

It's not usually keepers tbf

[slim bane]

ez

[wanton whale]

Gakpo will be so good

[silent jasper]

Wirtz

[hollow ermine]

They’re defence fell off hard though

[prime plinth]

Tbf rotation is viable. Just pros and cons to having price flexibility for certain players

[hollow ermine]

Who are forest sub cb’s

[silent jasper]

rather get one Arsenal attacker because they still look good and I don't wanna bank all on Liv attacker lol

[hollow ermine]

Second half of the season forest defence was ew

[cedar hull]

Yeah but it likes to rotate 6m attackers or 6.5m mids for example

[prime plinth]

Ik

[cedar hull]

To optimise fixtures etc like get a job

[slim bane]

have all that rn

[wanton whale]

the only viable ars attacker is Saka if hes fit

[violet temple]

Not going more than one forest defender for that exact reason lol

[silent jasper]

Gyok/Saka + Salah + Wirtz + Gakpo?

[prime plinth]

Me wasting my whole Saturday on fpl already

[cedar hull]

Yeah but we use our own brains at least

[prime plinth]

Wait no way

[earnest torrent]

Actually i do knd of like this team more

[prime plinth]

Isak here we go?

This is the end for the league

[earnest torrent]

Huh?

[cedar hull]

What?

[prime plinth]

Or is google giving me fake news

Damn

[zenith jolt]

funny man

[earnest torrent]

Where is bro looking at

[cedar hull]

Tf you chatting

Mute him bruh

[earnest torrent]

Does bro live in the future

[silent jasper]

this

[prime plinth]

Google gave me a noti saying isak signed

My fault

[earnest torrent]

Mute google

[wanton whale]

lad Isak just went back to newcastle

[earnest torrent]

[wanton whale]

pool arent getting him

[violet temple]

That's very nice ibr

[silent jasper]

facts ^

[wanton whale]

dont like rice or Welbeck

[violet temple]

u dont want him at pool?

[prime plinth]

Chill

Google not supposed to lie like that

[violet temple]

Show proof or get muted

[earnest torrent]

Might need a new search engine

[hollow ermine]

Ironic

[violet temple]

tyghe u got one minute

[silent jasper]

Newcastle's stance is very firm on keeping him unless there is a replacement
The way they are rejecting Pool's bid is something else tbh
Not that I do not want him, but I think Pool have this negotiate trick which is take it or leave it which I quite like it tbf

[violet temple]

newcastle getting sesko tho

Mostly

[fathom bison]

Nah you can't mute him he put a question mark

[orchid plank]

man utd*

[violet temple]

shit

ur right percy

[hollow ermine]

Asked a question tbf

[violet temple]

Become a lawyer

[fathom bison]

@prime plinth you're welcome

[cedar hull]

If they get wissa and sesko isaks gone imo

[silent jasper]

probably yeah, but would be funny if Isak decides to run down the contract and leaves for free

[violet temple]

I hope wissa comes to spurs ngl ik there's no talks ongoing or anything but him under frank could really cook

[barren geyser]

if isak doesnt join liverpool then hes gone from my team

[wanton whale]

get him gone then

[cedar hull]

Honestly have always thought this would be the best move for him

[fathom bison]

Surprised you have room for him atm

[wanton whale]

isak at castle is arguably better anyways

[hollow ermine]

Imagine making hypothetical transfers

Anyway

[barren geyser]

with 0 spare

[hollow ermine]

I have guiu

Hope he moves

[violet temple]

for now we probably gonna sign a lw tho hopefully with sons departure

[hollow ermine]

“Probably”

[barren geyser]

yes i know malen isnt ideal

[hollow ermine]

Does he know

[orchid plank]

it is

[hollow ermine]

Could be good tbh

[wanton whale]

id downgrade watkins

[hollow ermine]

Villa don’t have players

[wanton whale]

7.5 fwd and get rogers

[hollow ermine]

Sybau

[fathom bison]

Malen cooking in preseason don't know much else

[acoustic edge]

yo this is the review meta:

[wanton whale]

?

[acoustic edge]

ur welcome

[zenith jolt]

lmao let it go bruh

[barren geyser]

was gonna do isak > solanke which allows me to do
udogie > munoz, malen > rogers, kelleher > sanchez

[silent jasper]

hope Broja is like 5.0 or something, would be a good 8th attacker if we need him in case Guiu doesn't start or something

[wanton whale]

sounds good yeah

[zenith jolt]

haaland has less ev gw1-12 than palmer but you didnt hear that from me

[acoustic edge]

allow it real ones know

[barren geyser]

it does but ill just wait for now

[wanton whale]

isak is a better asset at castle

[cedar hull]

would have been 4.5 if fpl didnt forget to add him to the game

[prime plinth]

I can't show proof I swiped the message..why tf would I lie

[barren geyser]

hopefully

[violet temple]

u would lie so u dont get muted of course smart guy

[silent jasper]

yeah fr, not sure why FPL didn't add him in
Probably because Chelsea didn't register him in PL squad or something?

[prime plinth]

I did a question mark. No statement made

[barren geyser]

1 nil birmingham

vs forest

[cedar hull]

they forgot how many players chelsea had, pl registration isnt even required yet

[wanton whale]

shouldve checked before you typed

[prime plinth]

What did I do to you

[violet temple]

u lied to the rmt members that's a bannable offence under rules 8,9 ans 17

[prime plinth]

I added a question mark. On the reader if they take that as confirmation

[violet temple]

and*

[wanton whale]

😬

[prime plinth]

Lied?

[wanton whale]

fair fair

[prime plinth]

That is a question mark not a statement. That is not bannable

[violet temple]

tyghe I'm playing around with u I'm not gonna mute u man

[violet temple]

Percy already said that ur 10 mins too late

[wanton whale]

steelix always playing with us 😔

[silent jasper]

ah ok, I found out even Sterling isn't on there too

[violet temple]

I'm a good mod ok?

[prime plinth]

I can never read when this guy is serious

[wanton whale]

you are 😃

[violet temple]

it's good to be unpredictable I'll take that as a compliment thank u

That cap

whoever did that I will find u

[silent jasper]

I think we should send out some water pokemon to counter him

[prime plinth]

Magikarp use splash

https://tenor.com/view/nikola-milenkovic-milinkovic-fiorentina-milenkovic-milenkovic-fiorentina-fiorentina-gif-21289538

10 goal season incoming?

Who stopping him

Forest in Europa. Have to check when that starts up ig. Could be problematic for Neco types

[slim bane]

did yall see the blocked shots v blocked passes thing

can someone eli5

[prime plinth]

Time to buy review and concede I'm a bad manager

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-side-eye-meme-tiktok-the-pointer-brothers-gif-13730785519279791710

Xvapm top

[cedar hull]

xVapm is to be taken with a pinch of salt because its assuming 90mins played every game, which is generally what youre paying 0.5-1m more for

[prime plinth]

Maybe Munoz is just too good to pass on

[latent depot]

xFanFiction

[prime plinth]

Andersen and Richards should be secure though

[cedar hull]

interpolation vs extrapolation

[prime plinth]

Either way the numbers are helpful guide. Many factors will change as the season goes on

[hollow ermine]

Joined focalcord in hope of finding analcord

Left after a minute

[cedar hull]

yes this is hardly be all and end all, there are many factors that it doesnt/cannot include and should only be a rough guideline

[prime plinth]

Some people take it too far

[cedar hull]

doesnt account for mins per game, bonus, over/underperformance etc

[prime plinth]

It is a helpful tool to digest information and numbers in a simple way

[cedar hull]

and no pens too, since its all non pen data

and it assumes poisson distribution for both xCS and xDC

but besides all those caveats, caveman go

[prime plinth]

Indicates saka is in trouble if he loses pens

He'd need to be an over performer to try deal with palmer and salah built in goals

[novel harbor]

ew the review team is disgusting

[cedar hull]

3rd times the charm, fixed errors, added expected dc

[pale tiger]

adingra goal

xhaka assist

nvm offside

[latent depot]

Xhaka the main reason that I want to play 4 mids

but forwards suck, so have to play 5

[quick dawn]

this actually looks good

[latent depot]

you're misreading Bruno as Salah

[chilly ibex]

how

[latent depot]

it's a red shirt on the right, I know you assumed it to be Salah

[lavish parcel]

Wanna have rogers but i feel content with my team

[quick dawn]

i dont have salah rn

[latent depot]

451

[chilly ibex]

i can't choose between isak watkins solanke

[novel harbor]

its not their meta

[quick dawn]

wirtz can cover salah for 6 mil less

[orchid plank]

Isak saga still in the air and Solanke is injured

[chilly ibex]

i might go with haaland+muniz

then

[cedar hull]

haaland is so dead

[chilly ibex]

wolves are in trouble

[quick dawn]

wolves spuds and brighton

[pale tiger]

🤖

[slim bane]

mightttt wc4 and fh6

only just looked at a few fix

[novel harbor]

review team isnt too bad but it does look like instead of going for last seasons big cbit hitters they're trying to predict their own

[slim bane]

whichhhh is what ur supposed to do

u want this szns points

not last szn

[quick dawn]

no salah?

[novel harbor]

i dont even think they'll be right (if thats really what they're trying to do). the players they've chosen just dont show any sign of drastically changing their position enough to overtake the top players from last season. like bar bruno and andersen the other defenders last season were like 5-7 cbit p/90 last season. it'd be quite cool to see what makes them so sure

imo they probs just dont value cbit

[quick dawn]

well most people on reddit dont

they are just going for random 4.5s like konsa

[novel harbor]

thats reddit tho

like from what im looking at on review's site, they're still absolutely going off of traditional eV models

maybe ill check back in closer to gw1 date

if the sophisticated models arent properly pricing DC points yet tho then the market definitely isnt either. i wish spreadex had a defender category for fpl points would be interesting to see what the odds were

[quick dawn]

These past few days, I've been seeing loads and loads of sensationalism and biased perspectives on this subreddit and social media, trying to scare people into following the norm. Woke nonsense.

[zenith jolt]

have you seen evs

[broken patio]

He is

Munoz is also just fun

[cedar hull]

Nah what's up with him

[broken patio]

Most attacking defender in the game, with decent fix, at a good price, and playing for a decent defence that farms defcon points too

[cedar hull]

Just double checking FPL get their expected data from opta right?

[quick dawn]

i just dunno if i want to double up

[hollow ermine]

How do yall calculate them ev’s

[acoustic edge]

rip

[broken patio]

Fh6 and it's perfect

[cedar hull]

Fbrefs xA and optas xA are very different

[quick dawn]

i mean they might just not keep any cs at the start

[hollow ermine]

This is a game about footballers scoring points btw

What is this

[acoustic edge]

will wissa be on pens if he starts gw1

[violet temple]

Yes

[fleet oracle]

Idk if this has made its way into the chat yet, but it is interesting.

FPL Wigan fan (or whatever his name is) made it

Fpl_tomhadley I guess

[hollow ermine]

This is just defcon yeah?

[broken patio]

Wdym?

It's how often defenders hit 4+ points last season

(including defcon points)

[slim bane]

multiple times

[hollow ermine]

Like is it counting purely from defcon hit rate

[slim bane]

no

defcon only gives 2 points right

[hollow ermine]

Yes

2+2

4

[slim bane]

basically its points adjusted aft defcon

[latent depot]

nerds pretending this is science

[hollow ermine]

It is g

I’m dumb

So I don’t understand this

[violet temple]

knew my goat neco is clear of murillo

[broken patio]

I'm on neco

Had to find .5 somewhere in my defence, Murillo to Neco doesn't seem like a huuuuuge downgrade for that .5

Plus, only owning forest Def for the opening fix so

[cedar hull]

Ayari assist @broken patio

[hollow ermine]

Sh

Shh

[broken patio]

Don't act so surprised

It's what he does

[latent depot]

GW1-4 opponents, Murrillo got DCs 6/8 games, Milenkovic 4/8, Neco 3/5

if we bench vs Arsenal, it's Murrillo 5/6, Milenkovic 4/6, Neco 2/4

[broken patio]

[latent depot]

if we use last year's regelated teams as a proxy for GW5-6, it's Murrilo 1/5, Milenkovic 1/6, Neco 1/5

errr Forest (Wood) have scored 1 goal in 4 preseason games

Forest lost 1-0 today to Birmingham, so that's 1 goal in 5 preseason games

[novel harbor]

ye makes milenkovic way more admirable than murillo rn

forest keep losing/conceding

[slim bane]

no

[latent depot]

[slim bane]

they've been in a lot of 0-0 draws

[latent depot]

Forest at full strength
Forest are at full strength and include new signing Dan Ndoye in their starting line-up.

Nuno Espirito Santo has named four centre-backs in his XI which should see Forest test Blues' resolve on set pieces.

(4-2-3-1): Sels; Cunha, Milenkovic, Morato, Murillo; Andersion, Sangare; Hudson-Odoi, Gibbs-White, Ndoye; Jesus

full strength, lost 1-0 to Birmingham City

[novel harbor]

oh i thought only 2

[slim bane]

no williams?

[oak jasper]

Damn I need to bring in brentford defence

[novel harbor]

thats defo not full strength

[latent depot]

who's Cunha

[novel harbor]

jair

[oak jasper]

Some guy they got from botafogo

[novel harbor]

the brazillian cb

[latent depot]

who's Morato

[novel harbor]

lmao

[cedar hull]

mcgrr ball knowledge

[novel harbor]

signed last season

[oak jasper]

Backup cb been at forest for a while

[novel harbor]

played quite alot

[latent depot]

so Forest started with 4 CBs

Neco was on the bench

full strength minus FBs

[slim bane]

so neco not even nailed?

[latent depot]

Wood came on at HT

this is a dumb af article and really annoying to parse

[violet temple]

I doubt that's what it means lol

He dint come on also so yeah

[latent depot]

oh, Wood missed a 1on1 that arose from a defensive error

I presume Nuno's idea of getting a look at all of his CBs was to play all 4??

[violet temple]

Probably

[latent depot]

so forest's preseason is 0-0, 0-0, 0-0, 0-1, 1-3 vs Fulham

this is very... whelming

"Igor Jesus will push Chris Wood for a starting spot
Having featured alongside Chris Wood in Portugal, Igor Jesus was given the nod to start as a lone striker against Birmingham and showed exactly what he can offer as an alternative.

Jesus has impressed in training and he looked to have taken that into the game on Saturday, producing an all-action half of football where his ability to drop in and link up with his teammates stood out in particular."

[latent depot]

sounds like Nuno was testing his backup CBs to see if they can be backup FBs with European games in mind. apparently they provided no attacking threat

[novel harbor]

neco is nailed

[trail forum]

@slim bane about your comment on if forwards get dc

[latent depot]

In other words, Bowen should be a mid

[trail forum]

First thing that came to mind for me

[latent depot]

I feel like I can live with him being a forward if he would have been priced at 8.5 as a mid

[supple steeple]

Marmoush a mid but Bowen a fwd is such a joke

[cedar hull]

marmoush should be a mid tbf

but yeah bowen should be one too

[trail forum]

I really want marmoush to be an option

[novel harbor]

chances are he will be tbh

[cedar hull]

i like him a lot but no info on city pre gw1 really

[trail forum]

Yeah that’s the thing

Also if solanke is on pens will be just be instantly in every team?

I know gw1 alight doubt

But still

[novel harbor]

i think im getting bruno over wirtz

[trail forum]

I rate it tbh

However

[cedar hull]

solanke is on pens tho we know that

[trail forum]

If Wirtz scores gw1 then your gonna wanna jump off a cliff

[latent depot]

It's soblanke's finishing and fitness that's the concern

[supple steeple]

just a mid striker isnt he

[novel harbor]

im actually not

[cedar hull]

mateta same stats but good finisher vs bad, but bad fix vs good

[novel harbor]

ngl

i think bruno's the 3rd best midfielder in the game

[latent depot]

Fomo arguments are weird. Do you expect the popular assets to do nothing? Most of them are popular for sensible reasons, but surely you picked different players for equally sensible reasons

[supple steeple]

I think Palace fixtures are fine tbh

Chelsea, Forest and Villa arent exactly rock solid

[latent depot]

Hot take about the 4th most expensive midfielder

[novel harbor]

think sooner rather than later into the season ppl will realise bruno is essential with cbit now

[cedar hull]

villa no signings, chelsea no preseason, forest shit attack

double defence time

[novel harbor]

think he'll be great to own against city and chelsea, not sure about arsenal

[lavish parcel]

Hoping Emery starts all 3 of Malen, Rogers and Watkins to see how well they do together

[novel harbor]

i can see arsenal somehow keeping a cs or something and everyone on twitter getting mad at cbitmaxxers

[lavish parcel]

All its been is like 15-20 mins from 46-66 after they subbed on

Brentford aren't also that bad without TF

Definitely starting off with Kelleher

Collins + Kelleher might be a little too much tho but we'll see

[quick dawn]

simple

gotta use the akiake information criterium

[latent depot]

Uh oh, Liverpool now focusing on Rodrygo Gakpo Gang how we feeling

[quick dawn]

well not good if he joins

[lavish parcel]

Definitely shit if he joins

If he does, I'll move from Gakpo to VVD

But triple pool at all costs

[latent depot]

Makes sense, plays RW when Salah goes to afcon and is his long term successor

[supple steeple]

I mean

set piece coach as manager, talisman gone, wissa might be gone

[quick dawn]

whats the expected points for salah and haaland first 3 gw

[lavish parcel]

Sorry I meant defensively

[latent depot]

Norgaard gone

[supple steeple]

that too yeah

why do I keep forgetting lol

[lavish parcel]

He'll find a replacement

[supple steeple]

Brentford gonna struggle this year for sure

[latent depot]

I think Wissa stays now

Cos Isak stays

[lavish parcel]

They've got some good mids tho

I do see Carvalho, Jensen and Janelt scoring some good goals

[quick dawn]

schade

[lavish parcel]

And him yeah I forgot

[hollow ermine]

“It’s not complicated”

Yeah..

[quick dawn]

i learnt that this yewr

[zenith jolt]

im locked for gw1

[latent depot]

I've been overlooking Watkins. thought he couldn't possibly be worthwhile at 4.9ppm, but he's actually decent after adjusting for subs

[novel harbor]

send

[novel harbor]

plus villa's gw3-gw7 fixture run is probs top 3 fixture runs this half of the season

myb top 2

[latent depot]

has Malen played every preseason game?

[novel harbor]

no but hes got a great chance of getting good mins imo

[latent depot]

oh United might pursue Watkins after losing out on Sesko

[lavish parcel]

I am so into triple villa if Malen is actually used as a starter

And he should be

[novel harbor]

he'll stay at aston villa i reckon

[lavish parcel]

Watkins has been used up top

Malen on right or the second striker

Rogers on left probably

There is a risk of rotation since Jacob Ramsey also likes to be on left

All things considered, Watkins should have the pens

[orchid plank]

Doubt we’d get him

[lavish parcel]

Rogers and Malen benched btw

😭

Good ebenin at it again

[obtuse shoal]

If Rogers is benched as well, it doesn’t mean anything. Cause he always plays everything

[orchid plank]

Mcginn and Konsa are aswell, it’s just rest since they’ve played most of it already

[novel harbor]

was thinking more about this and only way i can think of is looking at historical BPS per game for similar player profiles, then trying to estimate what % of games they finish top 3 in their match. but that requires knowing average BPS generation rate for the player type, typical BPS distribution in matches involving their team, and how often defensive vs attacking performances dominate BPS. defo easier to just ignore bonus entirely for projections and treat it as upside

the defcon points and clean sheets are predictable enough that bonus becomes noise in the broader calculation tbf

[hollow ermine]

Hi guys

[hollow ermine]

[novel harbor]

or myb just use a flat rate like "defenders average 0.3 bonus points per game" and call it good enough

[hollow ermine]

Atp I’m almost certain it’s easier to just take a player, look at all their individual games and list out what number they got cbit in, what number they blanked in what number they scored in

Cause how do you factor %cs with % cbit hit rate and average GI per game while managing to segregate which game was GI plus cbit and which was cs + cbit + gi etc

There something it’s called in math I can’t remember

[novel harbor]

ye simply u cant just multiply independent probabilities when the events are correlated

[quick dawn]

we probably would sell watkins for a price but not for cheap

[hollow ermine]

Yes I remember how

Now

Universal set, intersection and union

[quick dawn]

you can use bayesian inference

[hollow ermine]

New dilemma

Ayari vs Sarr

Fairs

[cedar hull]

Yeah but it would be a pain, could always use last season's BP but defeats the whole point

Also realised that the data I scraped from FPL site uses opta, fbref uses statsbomb which is arguably more accurate for post data analysis, so considering switching which seems pointless but a lot of the xa values are wildly different, Munoz gets a 50% increase for example

[hollow ermine]

What calculations were you planning to use to differentiate 2 point games, 4 point games and mega hauls

[latent depot]

Gyokeres got marked out of the game by Danso in his cameo had 3 touches

[lavish parcel]

Tbf spurs were solid

Also saw Brentford defend like crazy against QPR

[novel harbor]

key passes i bet

[lavish parcel]

I've seen enough Collins and VDV are locked in

[novel harbor]

dont use statsbomb anyway just use opta

[lavish parcel]

I think this is the first time I have taken Milenkovic out of my team

[latent depot]

VDV's job on corners was to block Raya, so he's not going to be on the end of crosses

[lavish parcel]

That's fair

[latent depot]

Richarlison had 2 decent opportunities at the far post from corners, that's where Solanke will be

[lavish parcel]

Vdv has some history of scoring goals but not like Romero tbf

But if Romero is getting cbit points, vdv has a high chance of getting it too

I would love to have Romero but I know he is getting a red when I have him

[latent depot]

I'm back on a 532/442/352 setup

[lavish parcel]

I've got Mateta and Watkins locked in since last night

Haven't touched them

It's the defence and mid

Making me anxious

[latent depot]

I'm hoping for Solanke to play at least 45 vs Bayern then at least 60 vs PSG

if he does that, I'll keep him

[lavish parcel]

That's my issue Solanke

Missing these mins

While Mateta is out here menacing the defences

[cedar hull]

I'm not planning on doing that

[latent depot]

if he plays meaningful minutes in those 2 games, he'll still have had more of a preseason than Chelsea/City

also he has been in training

[lavish parcel]

That's huge

I'll have to ditch rogers but I see it as an improvement ngl

For Solanke

Even tho forwards won't get bps like before, they'll still get assist and goal if the fix is good

[cedar hull]

I meant stathead

[lavish parcel]

That outweighs me having to rely on my Milenkovic to score a goal or put in some effort to tackle or clear

And having 3 forwards, it will make me have good rotation option for my defence when it's needed

Probably 433 or 343 for me IF Solanke is starting next spurs game

If not, 442

[hollow ermine]

Fairs

[lavish parcel]

Time to see what good ebenin has in store

[zealous forum]

[hollow ermine]

Do we gotta be careful now

[lavish parcel]

Was this thread made last year or the year before?

That's insane

[latent depot]

how many CBITs did Sarr get vs Arsenal? or were people only counting for defenders

[hollow ermine]

13

[zealous forum]

Why?

[latent depot]

Sarr might be in my squad over Christie

[hollow ermine]

Doesn’t it get removed after 100K or is that just a running joke

[hollow ermine]

Already have him

[zealous forum]

I actually don't know, can't imagine why it would be

[lavish parcel]

My issue with him is palhinha joining and bissouma

[hollow ermine]

Between him and ayari

[quick dawn]

no xhaka?

[zealous forum]

Will be time to create a new season one anyway

[lavish parcel]

Those 2 are gonna be direct threat to his mins

[latent depot]

I already have Xhaka. it's a 532 setup with 2x 5.0 mids to rotate with defenders that have bad fix

[quick dawn]

i prefer 442 with 1 5.0 mid

[latent depot]

fuck, forgot about palinha. bissouma might be getting sold

[lavish parcel]

If bissouma is sold, sarr has a chance

Palhinha also could be risk to bentancur

Not just sarr

[latent depot]

blah, I'll start with Christie until we get clarity, prob switch on wildcard

[hollow ermine]

I think Sarr is first choice rn tbh

[quick dawn]

is bentancur still there

[lavish parcel]

So it's a wait and watch

[hollow ermine]

I don’t plan on playing my 5.0 much anyway tbh cause I have vdv

Who I would be playing in a 442 already

[thin jasper]

this thread is deleted at 100k messages

[hollow ermine]

So sarr is more if I would like to bench lacroix or don’t see cs odds for spurs

[latent depot]

Ayy needs to change the thread name

[hollow ermine]

Road to 100k part 2

[lavish parcel]

Gray, Bissouma, Maddison, Palhinha, Bentancur, Bergvall, Sarr

Too many mids fighting for 3 spots

[latent depot]

Road to Ayy's final OR

[hollow ermine]

Yep

The way I see it though

In sarr’s position

It’s just 2 players

And he’s prob first choice going off preseason

But that’s just sentiment tbh

[lavish parcel]

Hence, wait and watch until the last game in preseason

If he starts gw1, Frank genuinely believes in him to be a regular starter

[hollow ermine]

I just don’t care tbh, it’s a 5.0 cba

Also all the 5.0 have minutes risks

Bar baleba

[lavish parcel]

That's so true

[quick dawn]

christie seems nailed for now and is xhaka not?

i still have josh king rn ofc

[lavish parcel]

From Fulham?

I have him broo

[hollow ermine]

So this is one of those “I’m going to enjoy myself picks”

I think Ayari is underrated but doesn’t rotate well for me

[hollow ermine]

Oof sleeper

[hollow ermine]

We have to wait and see for xhaka, which could be said about everyone else too

Christie nailed though looks like it

[lavish parcel]

Le fee too

[hollow ermine]

I had him

But he has nothing to offer

He’s like a 10/cm hybrid so no cbit, like 3 goals all career and doesn’t bag assists anyway

Only redeeming quality is pens

Would just rather a 50% chance of cbit most days at the very least

[cedar hull]

review draft lol, pen taker fc

[latent depot]

Kroupi

[cedar hull]

benda is a 4.5 keeper to rotate too

[quick dawn]

crappy jr

[latent depot]

countdown to LTFPL Andy owning Bruno GW1

[lone thorn]

that looks so shit

[thin jasper]

Bruno is great!

[quick dawn]

bruno could actually be good with defconz

[latent depot]

9.0 for a CM

[lone thorn]

hate him, always baits out my picks to the casual masses

[thin jasper]

on penalties, gets defensive contributions like every three weeks or so, creates loads of chances,will play 100%

[latent depot]

Happy with this

[quick dawn]

bring back gakpo

[latent depot]

I can't, Rodrygo on his way soon

[cedar hull]

where rodrygo news?

[lavish parcel]

WATKINS GOAL

[hollow ermine]

Where haven’t seen anything

[valid river]

Guys losing to Birmingham is not good

[latent depot]

You played 4 CBs Nuno trying to find backups for his FBs. Aina had a knock and Neco rested ahead of the 4000 minutes he's about to play

I can see Nuno subbing his FBs to save their legs

[quick dawn]

they probably should sign a lb

[valid river]

Bro Aina is so popular for no reason compared to neco

Do we have any Solanke news?

[latent depot]

He's not playing tomorrow

[valid river]

Tonight?

[latent depot]

But he's expected to play vs Bayern

Oh, timezones

[valid river]

Is he starts vs bayern isn't that a good sign for gw1

[valid river]

It's 10am Sunday rn

I don't hate Solanke as a pick

[latent depot]

Dunno feel like his mins are pretty capped at 70 for GW1

But forwards are dead af

[valid river]

Is that fine though vs Burnley

[latent depot]

Maybe

[valid river]

I'm on haaland, Watkins, wood

Similar defense to you

[latent depot]

Hoping for Solanke to play 45+ vs Bayern and 60+ vs PSG

[valid river]

Yeah that would be promising

But not sure if he's worth it over warming

Watkins***

[quick dawn]

id be on watkins wood (or haaland), solanke or gyokores if we have info they will start

[valid river]

True

I'm debating Writz + Solanke vs Watkins + Kudus

[quick dawn]

first

[latent depot]

Gyokeres did nothing in the 15mins he played vs Spurs

[valid river]

Interesting, what that

[latent depot]

Marked out of the game by their backup CB, had 3 touches

[valid river]

Any good thoughts on semenyo?

[valid river]

I'm a league that actually defends now

[cedar hull]

rogers just clears tbh

[quick dawn]

rather evanilson probably

[valid river]

Have him

[latent depot]

I like Semenyo a lot, best 7.0 IMO but GW1 fix is annoying while Rogers has such a clean run

[valid river]

I like semenyo and can bench him gw1 for a 4.5 deg

Why semenyo when Kudus right there tho

[latent depot]

Spurs winger situation isn't clear. Kudus had really bad underlying stats

[valid river]

I agree TBH but I didn't think I can punt on semenyo

Maybe I could

[quick dawn]

how much did they pay for tel

[valid river]

Like no one is touching semenyo

[latent depot]

Its an awkward price point

And Rogers has such a good and long fix run

[valid river]

But he's better than Kudus low-key

[quick dawn]

no one here has kudus

[valid river]

Oh lol

[latent depot]

Yeah who has Kudus

[valid river]

35% or smth

Who's good at that 6.5-7.5 that isn't ndiaye or Rogers

[quick dawn]

sarr has the best stats

[humble dust]

sarr semenyo

[quick dawn]

then you have enzo rice rodri idk if they will be good or not

also gakpo

[valid river]

Sarr could work if his fixtures weren't the worst thing in the world

[latent depot]

Sarr is the best 6.5 yeah

[valid river]

Fix so bad

[latent depot]

Palace don't really have a good run of fix for ages

[valid river]

Gw10 maybe

How troll is Schade

[quick dawn]

he is kinda under the radar

[latent depot]

Is he 5.5

[humble dust]

hes 7

[latent depot]

Not interested in Brentford tbh. Lost their best player, best midfielder, manager

[valid river]

True

[latent depot]

Wtf 7

[valid river]

I'm going semenyo screw it

My goat

[latent depot]

He took 10, shots last season vs Liverpool

[cedar hull]

probably got 0.2 xg then

[latent depot]

Had like 1.2xG

[valid river]

Bournemouth did get touched by united tho

[latent depot]

Bournemouth's finishing was atrocious in both games

Neither game should have been a clean sheet

Almost 3xG across those 2 games

[valid river]

This all isn't an issue if I chose Solanke over Watkins but idfk

[quick dawn]

im kinda on wirtz and haaland lolol

[valid river]

What if I told you

Haaland bruno

But I can see semenyo outscoring Bruno in the first 6

[cedar hull]

where do you get your stats from bro he had 0.7 and 0.35 in those games, earlier you said arsenal had 3xg against forest when it was 1.5

[latent depot]

Understat likes to double count shots from the same phase of play

[cedar hull]

oh yeah understat is so eh sometimes

love hate relationship with that thing

[latent depot]

I like the UI

[cedar hull]

need understat and fbref to have a child

fbref export is now paid as well

[latent depot]

I don't hate the methodology, a shot is a shot

As long as you understand it

[latent depot]

Might have to triple on Villa attack

[hollow ermine]

[hollow ermine]

[lavish parcel]

It's only Nashville chill bro 😭

[valid river]

im a burno fernandes believer

[broken patio]

So is josh king the best 4.5 mid now?

Damn apparently Brighton played 2 friendlies Vs Southampton today

They played a 60 min game before the main friendly, with other players

Including welbeck, kadioglu etc

Baleba not in squad for either game

[prime plinth]

I was so high on him last preseason. Was saying how advanced his role is. So numbers were always going to pick up i thought

Too bad I got haaland vs salah saka palmer wrong with captain swings starting with the 3. Would've paid off long term

[prime plinth]

Yeah 2-5 is solid but would've helped if villa was at home

[supple steeple]

I think their first 5 are great?

Villa, Forest and Chelsea not super solid, but then its sunderland and west ham

[prime plinth]

Chelsea away is not what it used to be

It is a bit tougher again

[prime plinth]

It is ok. Not great. If palace was at home vs villa maybe

[supple steeple]

prob is, they played 1-1 in both games last season

and I think Palace showed that they can score against anybody, often several goals

[prime plinth]

I think this is pushing to fit a player you want tbh

Idm sarr as a pick. Just lets be reasonable. Chelsea away is not a decent fixture anymore

[supple steeple]

not quite

I just hate the others

[prime plinth]

Fair. Not like many have amazing fixtures

[supple steeple]

Soblanke is a below average striker in the prem, JP is dog without pens, Wood is almost my age

[prime plinth]

You could argue over the first 5. A 5.5 defender does enough to ignore a 6.5m mid

I want spurs player for gw1. Problem will be who

[supple steeple]

I wouldnt mind Wissa, but thats a wait and see

[prime plinth]

Solanke is not below average

I will not allow slander of any kind

🐐

[supple steeple]

okay, he's average

I admit

[prime plinth]

Still had 14 g/a in 25 starts. Main concern is fitness

Fixtures are good enough for me to want a mid or porro as well at some point if they show the role

[supple steeple]

is Maddison washed?

does he fit anywhere in a Frank system?

[prime plinth]

No

Problem for maddison is just his body handling more than 60 minutes a game

Will be rotated. Likely to sign a 10 given mgw attempt

Maddison still a good player. Per 90 i assume his fpl stats would look good. Just not worth the risks and lower minutes

[supple steeple]

ye

too much unknown about spurs really

[prime plinth]

Kudus will likely pick up his numbers to be a decent pick. Just don't think he has amazing fpl upside

[prime plinth]

Yeah just tough because Burnley at home gw1 is appealing

[prime plinth]

Surely malen is making a serious case for being the starter at villa

Pretend lacroix is on field...

[little delta]

Triple forest defence?

[prime plinth]

Why not?

[slim bane]

They’ve not been great end of last season

And preseason even

[prime plinth]

Wasn't perfect fixtures

First 6 are very good

[lavish parcel]

I think 2 are okay

3 defenders is a little too much

[prime plinth]

Everyone knows forest are much stronger at home

[prime plinth]

If you are playing for variance. You are playing for a nothing rank

All 3 are individually good picks with different advantages. With the first 6 being clear and away the best fixtures

Murrilo with adjusted scores was at 168. He only needs to go 140 pts to be a solid pick

Arsenal were the only defense to concede under 40 goals. The difference between Pool and Forest was 5 goals. Prefer the fixtures

They also have dc advantage

[marsh chasm]

Is double palace defence fine

Munoz and lacroix

[prime plinth]

Fixtures aren't ideal. Still seems fine

[lavish parcel]

Shouldn't be a problem

I personally have gone for vdv and Lacroix rotation

Whoever plays at home, starts pretty much

And might end up putting both forest CB on bench in gw4 and play both vdv and Lacroix

[valid river]

do we have a preference on semenyo vs Kluivert?

[valid river]

fh4

[lavish parcel]

Nope

FH6

[valid river]

fairs

[prime plinth]

I want to go no salah wc4 bb1-2. Just so tough to go against him as captain gw1

[valid river]

Im doing that but FH4

Also I think semenyo + Watkins > Solanke + bruno fernandes

probs

[sterile tree]

it's always the side without bruno >

[silent jasper]

@valid river Actually I am a bit concern with regards to Wood
Not sure if Jesus will start over him but saw him been on starting 11 during pre season
And your defence too, not sure if having murillo or milenkovic is good right now

[valid river]

Please goat

if you can, reread everything said in preseason last yeatr

awoniyi propaganda went crazy

[marsh palm]

Just wondering why Wirtz with Salah why triple Forest and why Tielemans over Rogers or even Malen if nailed

[valid river]

but overall wood is good for the first 6 gws

[valid river]

i would triple forest if i didnt love wood

[marsh palm]

Otherwise looks really strong

[marsh palm]

Is it because you’re a Forest fan or because you really think its worth it

I’m trying to double Forest until Europe comes around for them

I’m looking at these 3

I’m favouring towards threemium just because it knocks out captaincy and I like my 4.5 defensive rotations

Baleba is Le Fee for Sunderland’s fixture coverage

[valid river]

stats say 2 is great

[marsh palm]

I think Murillo and Neco is the way to go to start

Neco > Aina more than Murillo > Milenkovic tho imo

[silent jasper]

yeah I have Wood in my team right now, was a little bit worried
Oh yeah the Awoniyi situation was kinda insane back then yeah hahas

Aina getting those odd goals was my nice differential back in last season, had him from 4.5M all the way to 5.2M or something, before getting Milenkovic in WC2

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we will see gang

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if I pull my Pool biased I think I will get Neco over Murillo/Milenkovic for NFO def

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who is your GK tho, I am currently on Petrovic
Might swap to Kelleher if Bournemouth doesn't get someone to replace Zab if he goes to PSG

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sanchez

whos the best bournmouth defender? thinking of playing them GW2

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no idea because with CBIT I am not sure who would have the best points, maybe Senesi?

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probns

I have too much money

1 mil and nothing to spend it on

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What’s ur team

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it requires explaining so here we go

Esteve plays GW2 over Kudus, FH4 and GW 5 I play konsa over one of the everton lads

WC7

1 mil in the bank, thinking of going Kudus to Semenyo and esteve to vdv so he plays gw1

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Bruno is +ev

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Fact

but i dont like solanke

[marsh palm]

Upgrade ur gk and mid and make this a BB1 team

Otherwise yeah this is bang on

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Good bb1 team?

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ur bbing
areola lacroix guiu dorgu

it’s fine yeah they all play at least

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What about this

[novel harbor]

no

great bb1 team

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Only thing I’m worried about rn is double palace defense and whether or not guiu starts

[marsh palm]

Wb mine

[novel harbor]

ye u should replace munoz with tarkowksi

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i dont like it personally

think wan bissaka and konsa are useless

[marsh palm]

How come?

I’m looking at De Cuyper and Van de Van as options as well but AWB has defcon and attacking returns and Konsa has good rotation and clean sheet chances

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i dont really think they have any positives

the only 4.5 defenders i'd even consider rn are andersen and richards

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I know u have all the stats can you point some out to me that would make me look their way

I want to have nailed defenders too but I still think the name of the game is attacking

[novel harbor]

neco looks good for attacking

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Like honestly a set and forget defence is probably Virgil and then Murillo and Neco or Lacroix

I just want to see what Malen does and Anderson just looks bound to break out

Really good DEFCON and an increased offensive role

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i'm leaning towards the best structure being 3 floor defenders + 1 ceiling defender to rotate. for me thats tarkowski, murillo, lacroix + neco

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U think Tark is available for gw1?

[novel harbor]

ye

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It's down to branthwaite tbh

[novel harbor]

im still pro tark even without branth

but ye it'd be nice

[marsh palm]

Then yeah your 4 makes sense

At least short term

Forest in Europe scares me tho

But statistically it’s probably the 4 to go

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ye this is all short term. bar murillo and maybe tarkowksi. getting live defcon data will help me decide who i want a bit later

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Forest don't play Europe for a bit tho

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You don’t think Virgil is a set and forget all year?

He had the best defcon for a 6.0 defender i’m pretty sure

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Was a low bar tbf

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High clean sheet chances and is still a presence in corners

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None of the 6.0s have good defcon

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he is i just dont think hes actually worth it

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I have projected to get about 22 when someone like tark can get 50 if he plays every game

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Just curious what’s ur team with those 4

Assuming you have them in your lineup

[marsh palm]

Fair

Just feel like a premium is good to have so you have the ability to adjust if someone like Ait Nouri or Frimpong will consistently provide attacking returns

[novel harbor]

i keep going back and forward atm

but this is where im at