Boys Planet Discussion (SPOILERS)

[charred sedge]

OH MY DAYS

[devout prairie]

[west valve]

zh #1

[rough shore]

the best was always reserved for last

[abstract timber]

imma eat zhanghao oh my fucking gfosdd

[devout prairie]

This was so good

[charred sedge]

i saw a comment that said 'RICKY PLS STOP FOR THE SAKE OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH' 😭

[opal valve]

zhanghao captured my soul

[devout prairie]

Real

[charred sedge]

my eyes were on ricky and zhang hao the whole time

[abstract timber]

strange thoughts…

[woeful bluff]

i rly loved it

[opal valve]

it was good

but didn't fit the concept

[west valve]

^

[devout prairie]

Can MNET stop with the 5th gen thing

[opal valve]

ikr

[fickle dock]

Ricky has my heart

[opal valve]

zhanghao first

then zhanghao p01

[devout prairie]

Kuanjui really caught my eyes this performance

[west valve]

o?

[woeful verge]

wow

[charred sedge]

oh damn

[devout prairie]

400?

Why so low

[opal valve]

OH

[west valve]

WTF

HOW

[faint tulip]

well….

[woeful bluff]

sadge

[charred sedge]

[abstract timber]

hmmm

[devout prairie]

Jay

[west valve]

ughhhhh

[faint tulip]

if i speak

[opal valve]

i feel so bad for him nooo

[woeful bluff]

but they were rly goodge i rly liked jeonghyeon too

[opal valve]

he did so well tho

[summer cairn]

😦

[charred sedge]

when they acted shocked i thought it was ricky my heart stopped

[woeful bluff]

OII

[opal valve]

OMG

[west valve]

OMG

[devout prairie]

Me too Piper

[opal valve]

HARUTO

[faint tulip]

same

[charred sedge]

ITS A TIE

[rough shore]

852 again

[west valve]

zh??

or ricky

[opal valve]

zhanghao fr

[woeful bluff]

HFGHJFDGHFG

[west valve]

ekjrnksjndfkvjn

[devout prairie]

They didn’t even show his high note

[west valve]

im nervous

omg

[woeful bluff]

ahh

[faint tulip]

duh

[summer cairn]

haruto gjkfss

[devout prairie]

Hao let’s go

[west valve]

i had ricky for a sec

[woeful bluff]

same

[charred sedge]

same neo

but i think he probably placed second

[opal valve]

plot twist supercharger #1

[devout prairie]

Taerae looks so cute with the cat headband

[faint tulip]

☹️☹️☹️☹️

[abstract timber]

lmfaooooo

[faint tulip]

en garde won in my heart

[devout prairie]

Will they release the ranks today too?

[charred sedge]

STOP LAGGING

[faint tulip]

prob not

[opal valve]

i don't think so

[devout prairie]

Icic

[opal valve]

so no benefits for the high rank in each team

😢

[faint tulip]

🫤

hurry up we know!

stoppp

[opal valve]

shut up

[charred sedge]

that was annoying

[faint tulip]

oop

[woeful verge]

what

[abstract timber]

???

[woeful bluff]

[devout prairie]

[charred sedge]

boy what

[faint tulip]

534

[abstract timber]

what

[devout prairie]

I really liked switch except for the weird dance break

[abstract timber]

…?2?1)

[faint tulip]

oop

[opal valve]

UH?

[faint tulip]

switch lost???

awks

[charred sedge]

i feel ill

[summer cairn]

[charred sedge]

wtf is thos

[devout prairie]

Supercharger is so low too

[abstract timber]

was that rlly surprising tho😭

[devout prairie]

How???

[faint tulip]

nah

LOL

[abstract timber]

😭🤞🏽

[faint tulip]

i hate this

why did i watch this show

😭

[opal valve]

i will still get happy with haruto's score tho

DAMN

[summer cairn]

kmsing

[charred sedge]

😮

[devout prairie]

621?

[faint tulip]

fuck

see they did win

[charred sedge]

wth happened to supercharger then

[opal valve]

470

[devout prairie]

Exactly

[faint tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/tabg-bye-jump-gif-21413380

[summer cairn]

maybe haruto wont be p11

sadge

[opal valve]

noooo

don't jinx it

[faint tulip]

my favs are done

[charred sedge]

is it an average of all points in the team

[opal valve]

i think so

[faint tulip]

shut

[woeful bluff]

LETS

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[faint tulip]

NOO

[woeful verge]

OMG wow close

[faint tulip]

PLS

[abstract timber]

YEAP!!!

[opal valve]

OPRAH

[charred sedge]

FUCK YES MAN

[faint tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-gif-25976706

[charred sedge]

OH MY GOD

[rough shore]

nine...

[devout prairie]

Over Me win

I thought they would get more than 621 but

[abstract timber]

nine points tho i would kms on the spot

[faint tulip]

seunghwan i’ll miss you 🙏🙏🙏

[charred sedge]

yeah yujin's that's right get ur arse back to school

[opal valve]

phanbin, haruto my pookies i will avenge you

[abstract timber]

no wonderrrrr ricky climbed so high

[summer cairn]

haruto won in my heart

[faint tulip]

it’s so obvious

[charred sedge]

i still believe in haruto and phanbin

[summer cairn]

i didnt see zhang haos 852 therefore it didnt happen

[charred sedge]

seunghwan needs more screentime

[faint tulip]

too late now

PISS OFF

[opal valve]

the ad

[abstract timber]

but keita being 6 without benefits he’s a freakkk

[charred sedge]

now who screamed like that

[abstract timber]

my pookie

[wooden forge]

If zh doesn’t get these benefits istg

[opal valve]

plz vote for haruto my nugu trainee

[faint tulip]

he’s like 13th 😭

[opal valve]

kuanjui

[opal valve]

still a nugu

[faint tulip]

..

i’m just gonna turn this off!

SORRY HUI

[woeful bluff]

ayyyyy

[west valve]

YUP

[rough shore]

that's right

[charred sedge]

get in mate

[opal valve]

kuanjui 😭

[woeful bluff]

kuanjui safe then thank god

[abstract timber]

zhanghao taking hanbins spot 😰

[west valve]

JAYYYYYYY

[summer cairn]

zhanghao p01? 🤭

[wooden forge]

Zh p01 coming soon

[devout prairie]

the tears

[rough shore]

cai xukun and zhou zhennan smiling knowing that their records would be saved for yet another show

[opal valve]

finally g trainee p01

[faint tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-so-sad-gif-25352430

[abstract timber]

gotta study for school now 😴😴

[summer cairn]

I NEED TO KNOW WHO KEY VOTES

[devout prairie]

Key pls

[rough shore]

oh fuck

[opal valve]

KEYYY VOTE FOR HARUTO PLZ

[summer cairn]

i hope he votes haruto

[rough shore]

i have to go for the double vote on either side of midnight kst

[woeful bluff]

oh right tomorrow is bs clowning again

[rough shore]

see

18 for the finale again

and ep 11 for the third elim

[faint tulip]

lord

[opal valve]

noo harutoo

[west valve]

jay screentime pls

[opal valve]

the cute dog aw

[west valve]

todays ep was short too

[woeful bluff]

LOL

[rough shore]

NANI

[summer cairn]

time to listen to supercharger on loop

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-dog-grin-smile-happy-joyful-gif-15915304

[opal valve]

same

[faint tulip]

i will be treating en garde as a debut song and pretending my picks made it 😁

[opal valve]

gonna influence everyone at work to vote for haruto on their phones

[charred sedge]

my friends at school vote on boys planet and i always make them vote ricky and haruto

i made them vote seunghwan as well a few times

[faint tulip]

i tried to get my sister to vote but she said no ☹️

[woeful bluff]

looking at ranks i think 100% eliminated ppl will be
hiroto, ollie, takuto, shuaibo, kamden, zihao, seunghwan, seo won + 2 more

but the thing is, cause of benefit kuanjui and jeonghyeon will push out those 2 and the next people on the list would be seungeon, haruto, jongwoo, but im pretty sure haruto and seungeon got big boosts from this mission but jongwoo didnt

plz vote jongwoo tomorrow

[mint hamlet]

You’re a king Piper

[faint tulip]

stop 😭

[charred sedge]

thank you rosa i’m just doing gods work

[faint tulip]

why couldn’t i have picked shanbin to be my fav or smt

[charred sedge]

no seowon will make it

[faint tulip]

well..

[charred sedge]

😄

[woeful bluff]

giga copium

[faint tulip]

i don’t think he’s in many 3 picks

[woeful bluff]

i shouldve voted jongwoo more FUCK man

[charred sedge]

he’s in mine 💔

[faint tulip]

well hui will prob make it to the final so i’ll just vote him for my 1 pick

[woeful bluff]

looking at old ranks that is, i guess theres also a chance woongki and gyuvin will go lower but i doubt it since they showed ranks so ppl will try to save them

[faint tulip]

gyuvin prob in the top 9 again tbh

[woeful bluff]

no he was 16 last vote

and he didnt stand out in en garde again either

[summer cairn]

i shouldve voted jongwoo too....

[woeful bluff]

theres still tomorrow

[summer cairn]

kamden too

:agony:

[faint tulip]

no but a lot of people are panic voting him

[woeful bluff]

idk if its enough to get him back to top9

[wooden forge]

A lot of people being me. I made 5 new emails

[woeful bluff]

im p sure lots of people dropped him

can u vote on the same device with diff accounts..

[faint tulip]

well he’s def making it to the final

don think so

[wooden forge]

I’ve been using different devices around my house

[woeful bluff]

aaaaaa

[wooden forge]

Zh and gyuvin are my 2 picks and I’m just rotating 3rd slot for trade votes

[woeful bluff]

plz add jongwoo in 3rd

[wooden forge]

||I don’t like him||

[woeful bluff]

[wooden forge]

I’ll do hui some justice tomorrow

[faint tulip]

seunghwan perhaps 🤣🤣😁😁

[woeful bluff]

yasss

[wooden forge]

He’s 3rd pick on 2 of my accounts. Criminally underrated

[woeful bluff]

ye i feel badge now for seunghwan

literally didnt appear once this episode i thought he left the show

[faint tulip]

honestly it sucks

if he had more screen time he would be safer

[wooden forge]

Yeh he’s insanely talented and friends with most of the trainees. I don’t see why they aren’t trying to push him

[summer cairn]

side note en garde is so good im so happy it was released

[faint tulip]

idk maybe bc he’s not got a company backing him? but then others don’t and they’re being pushed?

[devout prairie]

He can sing and dances so well

They need more singers in that group

Somehow evil editing or giving no screen time to any of the vocalists

[faint tulip]

fr

i feel like i should stop choosing favs bc mine have never made it to the group

always close but never get in

[woeful bluff]

https://twitter.com/_mnetboysplanet/status/1643978412267274246 and when i book a flight 1 week in advance for this

Mnet I BOYS PLANET (@_mnetboysplanet)

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Twitter · Apr 6, 2023, 2:06 PM

[summer cairn]

me too

but my fave in gp999 was sheon so im coping for haruto to get the same career path

[velvet prawn]

Well deserved. I accidentally missed the episode even though I was confident that I would t be tired from yesterday

[faint tulip]

mine was bora so she’s already in a group so i wasn’t too devastated

[median haven]

i didn’t watch the ep what are the rankings looking like

[opal valve]

same i was a bora and xiaoting enjoyer

[opal valve]

they didn’t show it

if guyvin is out i would be surprised ngl

[faint tulip]

he won’t be

[opal valve]

hiroto and takuto are for sure out

shuaibo too

jeonghyeon is 50/50 the benefits may save him but he doesn’t get that much votes sooo

ollie is out too

[mint hamlet]

Honestly looking how Kep1er has turned out, I’m not sure if bora’s career would’ve improved much because of Girls999

[hollow sierra]

NO JEONGHYEON NEEDS TO STAY

HES SO GOOD

and park hanbin

[zinc cedar]

Didnt they show it in the end of ep 9?

[cold mortar]

poor jay

[hollow sierra]

Yea they showed half of it

[opal valve]

yeah but they didn’t show the full rank and this ep they showed no rank

[opal valve]

true it didn’t even boost chebul’s career 😭

[woeful bluff]

now that ur saying it ur right even with 200k points it only boosts them up close to 18

[hollow sierra]

tbh if I’m gonna be honest I want hoe taek out

[woeful bluff]

i do have copium kuanjui got enough attention anyways to get more votes tho

i think jeonghyeon mightve gotten a good boost too

maybe jongwoo can be safe tho

[hollow sierra]

I want Kuan to survive too

[cold mortar]

mnet clearly has a favourite

i hate it

[opal valve]

kuanjui maybe but jeonghyeon idk he may be p18 tho

[hollow sierra]

I hope seungeon makes it

He’s really good at singing

[woeful bluff]

actually nvm jeonghyeon was 15 last vote and now with benefits hes 100% safe

[cold mortar]

yeah hes actually like above c tier

[hollow sierra]

Bro a lot can change even if you thinks they are safe 😭

Like how Jay suddenly went down

[opal valve]

uh?? he wasn’t 24th?

[hollow sierra]

nah he’s ranking was 15

[woeful bluff]

nah cuz it was when they showed only some of them

[opal valve]

oooh

benefits saved him them

[cold mortar]

i thought this was for global vote only

[hollow sierra]

Nah THE WAY RICKY WENT BACK down

[woeful bluff]

[woeful bluff]

no this was before this episode

wait

[opal valve]

benefits was already included

[woeful bluff]

right

[opal valve]

that’s why ricky was in top9

[woeful bluff]

[hollow sierra]

Vote for woongki 👹👹

[opal valve]

literally us

[woeful bluff]

legit its so confusing cant they just show all ranks normally

[hollow sierra]

Right

[zinc cedar]

Cant they just show p1 it’s obviously gonna be shanbin

[opal valve]

it’s so sajaegi

[woeful bluff]

i also wished they showed jongwoo if he was low man im so worried

i hope he was above 14

[hollow sierra]

Omg I hope junhyeon went up

[opal valve]

zihao is out too 😭

[woeful bluff]

rly wonder what happened to junhyeon, he suddenly got so high

[zinc cedar]

Same, hes so good and the fact that he is an individual trainee

[hollow sierra]

I was proud 🥹

[opal valve]

ikr

does people really like his cringy aegyo?

[zinc cedar]

Well i dont

[median haven]

what in the word

i thought they would show top 18

[woeful bluff]

the aegyo is cringe but i do like his hype personality, but skill wise i dont think he should be 10

[opal valve]

i place him in the same basket as gyuvin tbh

the “i don’t really care about their outcome” basket

[hollow sierra]

😟😟

[woeful bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQzEecVffOY @west valve

[opal valve]

fancam

gonna stream haruto’s

[hollow sierra]

Jay ATE

[zinc cedar]

Pls i hope takuto gets eliminated

[west valve]

FUCK

[hollow sierra]

I CANT BELIEVE ||they gave him last place||

[hollow sierra]

RIGHTTTT

[zinc cedar]

WTF

[hollow sierra]

not Ricky oops if that’s what you thought 🧍🏻‍♀️ I meant Jay

[zinc cedar]

Ah ok

[hollow sierra]

Did y’all saw the acting scene for the new ep

[opal valve]

NAUUUR HARUTO CALLED ZIHAO HIS HUSBAND 😭😭😭😭

[west valve]

i can’t get over how good en garde studio ver is

[proven island]

haruto hfhfsfhshgds https://twitter.com/wittyharuto/status/1643988736370417664

carly🌸🍬HARUTO FOR BOYS PLANET (@wittyharuto)

today was just haruto fawning over men

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Twitter · Apr 6, 2023, 2:47 PM

the unnies

maybe shuaibo did actually call woongki unnie too lmao i wasn't sure since it wasn't captioned by mnet and i looked up they're born in the same year

[faint tulip]

voted for seunghwan for the last time #youslayed

[woeful bluff]

RICKYS MESSAGE..

in the kr one he wrote since it came out on spotify i hope u'll listen to it every night LOOOOOL

[median haven]

viki needs to hurry up and release the ep

[opal valve]

i’m apologising in advance for the person i’ll become if haruto isn’t in the final lineup

[median haven]

oh i thought voting was over for a second omg

[rough shore]

it just reset for the final time

https://twitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1643994337707999233?t=TpZyIWy4WatGNc_PZJ8UDw&s=19

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Say Yes! (Boys Planet) "Say My Name" 12AM KST Update:

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Twitter · Apr 6, 2023, 3:09 PM

[median haven]

scared for my life for these three

[proven island]

woongki being a kpop fandom name mashup stan in his comment lmfaooo https://twitter.com/woonggifairy/status/1643987473150922757

woonggi manager (@woonggifairy)

WOONGGI IS SO FUNNY HE ADDED A BUNCH OF GROUP + FANDOM NAMES TO HIS COMMENT UNDER HIS FANCAM😭😭😭

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Twitter · Apr 6, 2023, 2:42 PM

i'm derby

[west valve]

HELLO?

LAMKDNDNCKDNCD

[rough shore]

PLEASE POLICE i'm dead

[hallow galleon]

the “Please Police 🚓 🚨 🚓 🚨👮‍♂️❤️” line is killing me

the emojis 😭

[rough shore]

the eoeo energy is real

[charred sedge]

got7 and nu'est he is so real

what does he mean by 'thanks bbc' 😭

[rough shore]

iirc bbc is probably the block b fandom

[woeful bluff]

taerae literally a catdog, this time he introduced himself as everyones cute and lovely puppy in his comment

[woeful bluff]

wait no way the dumbass announcement tomorrow is at 10am kst

gonna have to stay awake then

[woeful verge]

I will be sleeping

[woeful bluff]

oh shit i also forgor voting closes earlier too then, everyone get your votes in

[faint tulip]

GUYS

I WISH I COULD HAVE VOTED FOR THEM LONGER

BRO

BUT IGNORED IT

Noooooo

[woeful bluff]

on both accs today

[opal valve]

since the survivor announcement announced someone who dropped out of top 9 im assuming it’s either taerae or jiwoong

yujin copium

[woeful bluff]

taerae is actually #3 now

[woeful verge]

hao #1 🙏

[faint tulip]

Who’s hao

[opal valve]

zhanghao

[woeful verge]

zhang hao

[faint tulip]

Also someone from china called me 💀 I didn’t answer it tho idk how tf they got my number

Boys planet is 5th gen? 😭😭

[woeful bluff]

nah mnet just saying shit

[faint tulip]

Lmao

Okay

[median haven]

i must have not been present this entire show bc i never realize ricky sings so well

[woeful bluff]

yuppp he does but i think he got pushed into the rap position a lot in the past missions

[charred sedge]

thats like 2am for me fuck that i have work at 10am

[zinc cedar]

Pls this man needs to survive

[summer cairn]

Jongwoo phanbin panic vote

[median haven]

the big ass border lmfao

[faint ivy]

the ipad vote im crying

[stiff creek]

https://twitter.com/xuraee/status/1643992779083878404

@summer cairn

[median haven]

RAAHHHHHHHH

[woeful bluff]

LMFAOO the ipad one

[stiff creek]

NO EMBED grief

[median haven]

was i blind or did i never see them even interact…. FUCK YOU MNET

[stiff creek]

well

g group

[median haven]

rip….

same thing with haruto and wang zihao like…. y’all know each other????

[median haven]

i used my school email ahdksjd i am not playing around

[mint hamlet]

Honestly Yujin dropping from top 9 would be a relief

[stiff creek]

well

he's probably debuting

[mint hamlet]

He feels like this seasons Wonyoung and he doesn’t have the mental fortitude to take being an industry hate sink

[woeful bluff]

i need to get my old phones working man

[stiff creek]

isn't he p03

[median haven]

he definitely dropped

[stiff creek]

o

[median haven]

not from top 9

[stiff creek]

i skipped today's bc i was kinda pissed and i had class

[charred sedge]

i need to vote

ill do it before i sleep

[median haven]

i have a theory bc over me won and ricky was #14 and he went up to #7 and jay was 12 so he definitely went up to so yujin definitely went down and i’m thinking jiwoong too cause he’s been going down frequently

:jaeminexplain:

[summer cairn]

🥹

[woeful bluff]

manifesting

[mint hamlet]

I’m still amazed over me won

[woeful bluff]

gyuvin also went down so hard

[charred sedge]

jiwoong probbaly went down i agree

[woeful bluff]

maybe hopium

[charred sedge]

and gyubin

gyuvin

[median haven]

people say he’s a “filler”

[charred sedge]

jiwoong has been going down the past two weeks

[median haven]

plus he went up bc of benefit i think?

[median haven]

yeah mnets been scheming with him

[woeful bluff]

i hope everyone in kr saw the taeraevision

[median haven]

YUP YUP

let me make another account and vote for him

[woeful bluff]

dont forgor jongwoo

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[median haven]

i voted for him today

[summer cairn]

[charred sedge]

vote seowon

[median haven]

im especially worried for wang zihao bc he was 19……………..

[summer cairn]

If I wake up before 10am I'll make an iPad account and vote seowon and zihao

unlikely though feel free to blame me if they don't make it😭😭😭

[charred sedge]

noted

[median haven]

i’m thinking back to this

[faint tulip]

wait is the announcement is at a different time than usual?

[median haven]

the one tomorrow? i think it’s the same time since i usually watch at around 1 am

[mint hamlet]

Rewatched over me those Jay adlibs…..

If he doesn’t debut I think he’s gonna get swiped

The vocals are too good to leave him at a no name company

[median haven]

UGHH i was seeing that too like why do people not like him

i know he had scandals prior but i heard those were debunked

[faint tulip]

were they tho..

[mint hamlet]

Although apparently fm gave him a solo debut….they may be able to keep him

[median haven]

i have no idea that’s the thing ahdsjdlsj

[mint hamlet]

Also I have never seen his first name before and considering he’s American…..role call/attendance must’ve been an experience

[median haven]

oh jay chang is just a stage name then

[summer cairn]

Steven...

😭

[median haven]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cqe7IIHrPa1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= MY GOD

keita_boysplanet

another jihoon's fansite posted keita picts 😭

cr. jihoonO314

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I NEED TO FIND WHERE THESE ARE FROOM!!!:!!;28$492&310

michelle… these keita pics

[summer cairn]

[median haven]

that fuck ass profile pic DOES NOT DO HIM JUSTICE

[devout prairie]

🤝

[woeful verge]

[hallow galleon]

todays

[opal valve]

thank you everyone who votes for haruto 😊 (i’m haruto’s pr team’s manager)

[summer cairn]

can you tell haruto to go to the nct Tokyo auditions in Japan this month thx

[opal valve]

📝

we are in big consideration of letting him go to nct’s audition however his company can’t let go of him at the moment because he is the only money maker of the company

[median haven]

it’s this month?

i thought they would be in the damn studio at this point

[woeful bluff]

they probably lost literally every good trainee they had so now theyre trying to look for someone who can debut right off the bat

in conclusion ACTUALLY dm harutos insta when hes out about it.. GFHFDGHFG

[opal valve]

they are waiting for haruto

exactly

https://twitter.com/seoktthew/status/1643995623807676416?s=46&t=S7YG4Bqi2ni6xxixgC-9Hw that mnet intern is really functioning with 10 cups of coffee in his blood

duke (@seoktthew)

aren't they 6 ??

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Twitter · Apr 6, 2023, 3:14 PM

this morning he forgot junhyeon and now jongwoo

[velvet prawn]

Votes for today

[faint ivy]

votes for today 🕴️

[west valve]

Girl get out of here

u haven’t seen new ep

[median haven]

no no let michelle cook

[charred sedge]

exactly

[faint ivy]

IM JUST HERE TO POST

VOTE KEITA OR ILL SCOLD YOUR PETS

[woeful bluff]

i found a working charger and 1 phone is charging so 3 devices....... maybe the other one still works too then i can do 4

[charred sedge]

i massively respect ur votes michelle

[median haven]

i’m about to do cipher deep dive just bc of keita

[west valve]

girl !:!?!’djc

y’all gonna get banned like the other ppl in bpcord

[woeful bluff]

so u CAN get banned?? cuz i did* have the popup about "suspicious voting activity" before but then i just reloaded and it worked again lol so i assumed its just a bug

[median haven]

YOU CAN GET BANNED?!

alright… let me calm down

[charred sedge]

PEOPLE GOT BANNED?

[woeful bluff]

man i rly hope we can get taerae into a safe spot before finale or maybe even ricky if the koreans started liking him now so i can vote multiple times for 1 person during finale instead of having to spread it out

[stiff creek]

i rlly thought you were gonna say before i get banned

[proven island]

maybe use vpn on your extra devices lol

[woeful bluff]

turned on the old phone and the date is set to january 2015 2pm

[charred sedge]

the old phone too damn

my old phone can’t even download the mnet app

[woeful bluff]

i think my very old one is dead tho

[faint tulip]

i don’t think my old phones would even have enough storage lol

my phone from like 2016 having probably 15gb in total…

[charred sedge]

my ipad doesn’t even work

i dread to even turn it back on if it does

[faint tulip]

i remember i broke my ipad from 2013 and it got fixed but i doubt it turns on now either 😭

[charred sedge]

i had sims free play on it and i was like level 40

thought i was the bees knees

[median haven]

HELP send the votes if u can vote on it

[faint tulip]

sims free play was so bad omg

[woeful bluff]

ok fml it shows the suspciious thingy again you really need a vpn

quick whats a good one thats on playstore

[faint tulip]

it showed the sus thing for me when i was at the nct dream concert for some reason

[median haven]

are u logging on to the same account on diff devices

[woeful bluff]

no diff ones

[median haven]

damn omg

[woeful bluff]

maybe if i connect to my other phones hotspot its gonna work

[faint tulip]

i cba to do all of that

[woeful bluff]

yea it works with hotspot LMAOO

Phones so old it cant even handle the app layout LMFAOO

[charred sedge]

ur so dedicated kyrro

[woeful bluff]

[west valve]

LOOOOOOOOOL

so we only need another email?

i thought it was 1 phone number per acc

[charred sedge]

anything and everything for boys planet

i have two other emails but one of them is my school email

who cares it gets deactivated in september anyway they can’t stop me

[woeful bluff]

BRUH the app crashed and now it says sus environment again

[woeful bluff]

maybe its cuz it says reason might be "not a live smartphone" and maybe that means if it doesnt have a sim card cuz yea i dont even have like phone numbers connected to the other 2 phones aside from main cuz they dont have sim cards lmao

i was so close man

[charred sedge]

wdym sus environment

[woeful bluff]

the "u cant vote on this device" message

loike bro mnet can rig shit but i cant or what

can we be fair for a second

[charred sedge]

damn

[woeful bluff]

downloading some vpn now that i still had bookmarked from someone who recommended it to watch nct universe on kocowa

ok rip still not working

fuck u mnet if haruto jongwoo ricky hui taerae dont make it its on sight

[velvet prawn]

I'm still mad about Jay being the lowest rank in the live voting. I mean at least I expect him to get more than takuto. No offence

[median haven]

OH YMDJSOENEKQMF

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqnhI9htkQp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

anthonny.boysplanet

Anthonny is the cutest (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)
안토니 화이팅~ (ง’̀-‘́)ง
♡
♡
&✌️

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anthonny…. i will avenge you

[hoary wadi]

AURRRRRRERREE

I DIDNT MEAN TO GO IN THE THREAD BY ACCIDENT CAUSE I DONT WANT SPOILERS BUT I SAW THIS INSTEAD

[woeful bluff]

1h 20mins

i hope they announce jongwoo safe

[faint tulip]

wdym 1 hour??

the survivor announcement? isn’t that in like 8 hours

[opal valve]

if im not wrong it’s at 2pm kst

[abstract timber]

its at 2pm kst in 7 hours

[median haven]

if over me won who is getting that solo thing

[woeful bluff]

isnt it at 10am

[median haven]

i forgot what solo thing it was lol

[woeful bluff]

Bruh ive been saying 10am this whole time and no one said anything GDWGRJT ive been stayimg awake for 2h now cuz i thouhht its at 10am

I couldbe been sleeping

[faint tulip]

it’s the vote that closes at 10am i think lol

[woeful bluff]

Yea lmaoo

[molten shuttle]

if seunghwan doesn’t make it…

changed my vote today cos (hopefully) the benefit will pull ckj through

my fav boy

[summer cairn]

: (

[molten shuttle]

https://twitter.com/mttsbin/status/1643326330665336833

zo (@mttsbin)

hyunbin dressed in a fancy suit dancing in a studio while keita is in a monkey onesie dancing in a random forest

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Twitter · Apr 4, 2023, 6:55 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058698217224679496/1093715847215849563/2023-04-06_20-55-28.mp4

LOL

[summer cairn]

https://vxtwitter.com/RlCKYSBAE/status/1644046763177672705?s=20

This is kinda sad that he had to do this

I hope if he debuts they don't keep pushing him as a sexy member

[faint tulip]

I agree

[molten shuttle]

pls “and lip j” 😭

she does weird me out quite a bit

[faint tulip]

Who

[molten shuttle]

the dance mentor whos always squealing over yujin

[hollow sierra]

Same

And she’s from women street fighter

[molten shuttle]

https://twitter.com/jiwoongatron/status/1643987217273208836?s=46

⛥ (@jiwoongatron)

hwanhee, dongyeol, and jiwoong are actually hui's sunbae if you guys think about it

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Twitter · Apr 6, 2023, 2:41 PM

huhhh

[faint tulip]

Ew

[molten shuttle]

damn inx debuted 4 months before pentagon

oh up10tion debuted 2015???

also i keep reading it as up lotion 💀

and theyre STILL active? (last ig post dec 2022)

[woeful bluff]

up10tiom is so deadge

[median haven]

they are basically fading out

members keep leaving

[woeful bluff]

like everyone left recently

[molten shuttle]

icic

[woeful bluff]

how mucj longer is it... 27mins or 1h 27mins

127........

[summer cairn]

I think it's 127

[median haven]

let me take a nap before catching the eliminations

[opal valve]

someone has a link?

[median haven]

i usually see it pop up on youtube i’m trying to find it now

[opal valve]

i think that it’s not out yet i can’t find it

[woeful bluff]

if theyre even one minute late its on sight

[woeful bluff]

i literally havent slept since i said this (not for bp but still)

[median haven]

omg rip

[opal valve]

it was postponed

https://twitter.com/boysplanetchart/status/1644203321811402753?s=46&t=S7YG4Bqi2ni6xxixgC-9Hw

BOYS PLANET Charts (@boysplanetchart)

The 3rd Survivor Announcement was postponed to 3PM KST.

#BOYSPLANET #보이즈플래닛️

Twitter · Apr 7, 2023, 4:59 AM

[woeful bluff]

fdghkfdhfjghfg

[proven island]

noooooooo

[median haven]

oh hell nah

i’m going to bed

[woeful bluff]

its ok its only 1h

[limpid moon]

Not this

[proven island]

staying up til 1am is fine but twoooooo??? 😭

[median haven]

right

for one person

[proven island]

but i also Need to know What Goes Down don't i e_e

[median haven]

let’s place ur bets: i think it’s haruto

[opal valve]

i was supposed to wake up in an hour anyways sooo benefical

[median haven]

who will be announced

[proven island]

i would love to not have to worry about haruto for a week

[opal valve]

same

but im sensing it’s someone who dropped out of top9

[median haven]

hmmm

gyuvin and ricky switched

rip….

if it’s taerae i’ll go crazy

[opal valve]

did gyuvin’s rank increased that much in that small amount of time?

[median haven]

if it did that would be crazy

but ash ur on to smth bc over me won so jay HAS be in top 9 rn

[opal valve]

people would do anything for visuals

[median haven]

so smth went down to make room for jay

[opal valve]

yeah he def and we didn’t saw his rank

[median haven]

i’m honestly thinking gunwook or jiwoong ranking is going down

especially jiwoong

[opal valve]

same

[median haven]

keita was 8 now 6

maybe jiwoong is 8

but he has a strong fan base so idk what’s going on with his voters

[opal valve]

the dude got a perm just to be announced today 😭

[median haven]

wait who??? lol

[opal valve]

he may have been a filler vote for people especially global votes

[opal valve]

jiwoong

[median haven]

i also think zhang hao is p01 so shanbin fans about to be RABIIIIIIIDDD

[opal valve]

yeah

[median haven]

g group as #1…. sorry shanbin but WE WON

[opal valve]

if shanbin is able to stay at p01 even with hao’s benefits it’s either rigged or his fandom is pretty hardcore

[median haven]

zhang hao and shanbin had a big voting difference

also i’m curious to see if matthews editing affected his ranking since he was 4

[opal valve]

i feel like matthew is safe

[median haven]

idk the consensus on what people thought of that moment

[opal valve]

the editing was so unnecessary tho

they dragged it for 2 episodes for nothing

[median haven]

mnet had a mission….

if they can’t rigged the votes they will rig the audiences opinion

[opal valve]

they def wanted people to focus on matthew rather than keita or ricky

[median haven]

RIGHT

BC IT WASNT SITTING RIGHT WITH ME WHEN THEY SHOWED KEITA AND RICKY IN TOP 9

made me vote even more lowkey

[opal valve]

both of them didn’t got a lot of screentime yesterday

[median haven]

https://www.youtube.com/live/jZLL2XudnEM?feature=share

[opal valve]

sus

[median haven]

link for everyone

[opal valve]

finally a link

[median haven]

i’m going to bed i’ll wake up to see who it was lol someone please ping me when it happens

[mint hamlet]

I don’t think I’ll ever get over the survivor announcement taking 30+ minutes to say Lee daeul survived and then him being quickly dropped

Like so quick

[molten shuttle]

LMFAO

that was such a moment

[charred sedge]

has it started

[abstract timber]

nope

[faint tulip]

already regret waking up early for this

but we move

[rough shore]

i think i'm skipping viewing this one even tho i'm wide awake

just ping me for the important stuff

[abstract timber]

it started

omggg

[proven island]

im annoying myself that im even still here 💀

[woeful bluff]

TAERAE BLACK HAIR?

[abstract timber]

black haired taerae

[woeful bluff]

DSHFGHFGg

[abstract timber]

LOL

waittt

[woeful bluff]

HEEEEEEE

[abstract timber]

he got some type of undercut?!?!

[woeful bluff]

[proven island]

jouzu

[charred sedge]

i cant watch cause i gotta get ready for work but ping me if anything important happens pls!

[proven island]

haruto dkjfldkj

[woeful bluff]

seowon dyed his hair like a billiont imes it feels like

[proven island]

lmfao

[woeful bluff]

WHAT IS THIS FHDIFGH

woongki muscle woongki body profile

[proven island]

i love hismdfkdfkj

[woeful bluff]

HARUTOI POPPY CHALENGe

[abstract timber]

omh

afasdjf

[woeful bluff]

omg zhanghao raccoon animal emoji?

LMFAO

[proven island]

??ASjdkdjdkjf

[faint tulip]

too early for this

[abstract timber]

i wonder how long ricky was blonde for

[woeful bluff]

bro came out of the womb blonde

[abstract timber]

and how his hair hasnt fallen off

[woeful bluff]

bruh

can

they stop

[faint tulip]

STOP

[abstract timber]

they needa stop THIS noona agenda

im TIRED.

[woeful bluff]

LMFAO

[faint tulip]

it’s so bad

[abstract timber]

the train...😭

[summer cairn]

is the announcement over yet

whos the one person safe

[proven island]

they're still walking in

[abstract timber]

lmfaooo its gonna take so long

[faint tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-spongebob-squarepants-gif-24438933

[woeful bluff]

wtf

lmao

[summer cairn]

HOWRE THEY WALKING IN DIDNT IT START AN HOUR AGO

[woeful bluff]

no it got delayed an hour

[steady shoal]

it started 12 minutes ago I think

[summer cairn]

😭

rip
kyrro hows your sleep going 😭

[faint tulip]

woke up at 6am when i could’ve woken up at 7 smh

[abstract timber]

lmaoo

[woeful bluff]

there is nothing going

[steady shoal]

is it starting

[woeful bluff]

HUI IS SO CUTE HUIGGING THEM

has harutos hair always had this purple shade

looks so nice

[proven island]

no i think it's new

cute

[abstract timber]

omg i noticed it too

yea i think it suits him

omg

[woeful bluff]

who

[faint tulip]

WHO

[woeful bluff]

OG

SOMI

?

[faint tulip]

somi??

[woeful bluff]

or was it sunmi

[abstract timber]

who

[woeful bluff]

SOMI

[summer cairn]

OMG STAR GET IN HERE

[faint tulip]

OMG

[steady shoal]

somi!!!

[faint tulip]

BRO

[abstract timber]

ohhh

ive never seen her with bangs

[summer cairn]

@wispy pawn your wifes doing the boys planet elimination announcement

[woeful bluff]

LMFAO hes memeing about keitas height i think

her jackets so extra

[abstract timber]

lmfaooo

the spikes are huge

taerae looks so good jesus

[summer cairn]

taerae looks so good

[abstract timber]

😭

[summer cairn]

fdgjklfdghlsl

[steady shoal]

why are these camera shots and pauses so awkward ive never actually seen this live

[summer cairn]

does haruto have purple hair or is it the lights

[proven island]

purple

[woeful bluff]

cuz they always have to leave cut time for the editing later on or smth

[abstract timber]

its like a dark purple

[summer cairn]

oooooooooo

[charred sedge]

WHAT IS SEOWON’S HAIR COLOUR NOW

[summer cairn]

i hope harutos announced as p11 so i can rest easy

[woeful bluff]

black with blue highlight

[faint tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-oooh-sleep-sleepy-snooze-lazy-gif-13955988

[proven island]

if i stayed up and they announce like gyuvin 14th or something.....

[summer cairn]

KEITAAA

oh thats definitely happening

[devout prairie]

Somi is going at light speed

God bless

[proven island]

oh 11th will be announced regular style now

[woeful bluff]

okay

[faint tulip]

obv

[proven island]

switch..

[woeful bluff]

JONGWOO MAYBE?

please god

[proven island]

park hanbin 11th :)

[abstract timber]

im starting to get nervus

nervous

[woeful bluff]

i need to rest at ease tilthursday plz announce jongwoo

[faint tulip]

SHIT

[proven island]

oh

[faint tulip]

😭😭😭😭😭

[summer cairn]

boo its literally gonna be gyuvin

[mint hamlet]

Man this haircut kinda ages somi

[woeful bluff]

holup why two

is it only 1 from either of those

please not gyuvin

[proven island]

PLEASEE NOT GYUVINNNN

what if they announce hui dropping further

[woeful bluff]

i will end my shit

but maybe its good cuz then ppl will panic vote him

but i dont think mnet wants that

[mint hamlet]

honestly hui is more talented than any of the trainees him on this show has never been a question of talent

It’s more do people want him in this or do they want him with pentagon even if that means breaking up

[proven island]

girl don't say it like that

PARK HANBIN PLEAAASE

[faint tulip]

gyuvin??

[mint hamlet]

He’s a near 30 year old man who wrote a good deal of the winning groups title tracks while belting his face off idk it feels apt

[woeful bluff]

oof its huis rank i hope he went up

[proven island]

i hope gyuvin wouldn't have gone back up that much

[steady shoal]

me too

[woeful bluff]

duid jongwoo have allstar

plz

omfg i dont remember

[faint tulip]

hanbin??

[abstract timber]

he had like 1

[proven island]

i don't remember either

[abstract timber]

i think

😭

[woeful bluff]

no way he had 1

[ashen lion]

I just tuned in, are they actually announcing the results this time?

[woeful bluff]

no lol only 1 as always

[abstract timber]

killing part omg

[woeful bluff]

bro i dont REMEMBER

[proven island]

PARK HANBINNNNN

[faint tulip]

oh maybe it’s gunwook

[woeful bluff]

stop with the shit hints

its gunwook isnt it

[mint hamlet]

GOD 30 MINUTES FOR ONE TRAINEE AGAIN????

[abstract timber]

gunwook or hanbin?

[devout prairie]

Gunwook vs Phanbin?

[woeful bluff]

boring

[proven island]

shut up

[abstract timber]

lmfao

the parks

[faint tulip]

it’s gunwook

[charred sedge]

what’s going on

[mint hamlet]

This is infuriating

[woeful bluff]

fuck this shit man now i have to panic for jongwoo til thursday

[abstract timber]

i feel like its hanbin

[devout prairie]

Hanbin

[charred sedge]

who got announced

[summer cairn]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

[proven island]

YYEAUEHSJEFHJSHFJFH

[summer cairn]

YESYEYEYSEYE

[abstract timber]

omgmggmam

[summer cairn]

YESSSSS

[faint tulip]

nvm

[proven island]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

PMGMGJMGG

[woeful bluff]

wow

[ashen lion]

Hanbin

[abstract timber]

YEAAAA

[faint tulip]

damn

[charred sedge]

what is it

[proven island]

PARK HANBINNNNN

[faint tulip]

he rose

[proven island]

LET'S GOOOOO

[steady shoal]

hanbin

[devout prairie]

Let’s fucking goooooo

[abstract timber]

oamghmsgjaowg

[charred sedge]

what rank

[abstract timber]

11

[woeful bluff]

11

[devout prairie]

11

[charred sedge]

WHICH HANBIN????

[abstract timber]

P

ark

[charred sedge]

YO

OMG

[faint tulip]

didn’t expect him to rise tbh

[charred sedge]

DESERVED

[mint hamlet]

Honestly I wish they’d expand this group to 11

[summer cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-scream-cry-scared-gif-16908408

[steady shoal]

wait so they're announcing 11-18 right?

[charred sedge]

same 9 is too little

[summer cairn]

MY PANIC VOTE WORKED

[steady shoal]

or wait 11-17?

im confused

[devout prairie]

My sajaegi worked

[woeful bluff]

i dont rly like him that much like hes cool and has rly good leader energy but idk not for this group plz

[mint hamlet]

So is that it?

[faint tulip]

that might be all for now

[woeful bluff]

11 too im sick hui surely went down

[mint hamlet]

damn you mnet

[steady shoal]

thats it?!!??

man

[proven island]

:) :)

[abstract timber]

lmfao waitt we are the same 😨

at least it didnt take 40+ minutes like last time

[woeful bluff]

yea only 35

[abstract timber]

😂

[devout prairie]

[faint tulip]

yeah i should’ve slept

[mint hamlet]

I wonder if there’s a twitter account making America’s next top model elimination edits for this competition

[faint tulip]

THERES NOT ENOUGH SPACES

[mint hamlet]

Dudes just got to sit there on his own

[abstract timber]

keita bored as hell

T-T

[mint hamlet]

Rip

[woeful bluff]

mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

i dont wanna WAIT

[faint tulip]

fock this

[proven island]

please having to wait a week for haruto and woongki's fate im not gonna make it

[mint hamlet]

Haruto better fucking survive to the finals

[woeful bluff]

legit

[mint hamlet]

I need one more performance from my main slayer before he debuts in NCT Tokyo

[proven island]

at least they didn't make anybody cry this time

[woeful bluff]

not yet

[proven island]

😭

[devout prairie]

Goodnight everyone

[summer cairn]

exactyl exactly

gnight kat!

[steady shoal]

why do they do only announce one person this is so stupid ???// i never watch produce shows so

[faint tulip]

i won’t be able to go back to sleep

[opal valve]

i broke my laptop

but PHANBIN IS SAFE

[proven island]

well im glad it was someone i like and not gyuvin <3

[rough shore]

i am more shocked they kept this under 40 minutes lol

[abstract timber]

all thanks to somi

[woeful bluff]

mannnnnnn ONE MORE WEEK

[opal valve]

somi couldn’t keep that long pause

[molten shuttle]

somi is so pretty

[steady shoal]

fr !

[molten shuttle]

im so happy for phanbin!

but i expected theyd announce p18 candidates

rip well whats a little more stress until thursday 💀

[opal valve]

she just stared at the cam and was like no way i’m making them wait that long

[mint hamlet]

I hope someone pms Haruto when he’s out like BRO GET YEE TO THE NCT TOKYO AUDITIONS

[molten shuttle]

manifesting seunghwan survival 😭😭

[abstract timber]

i think she felt awkward herself bc of the silence

[opal valve]

somi coming back to be a star master in a produce show is iconic tho

[opal valve]

true the little spin that she did and all to fill the blanks 😭😭

[molten shuttle]

so cute!!

[mint hamlet]

It’s always wild to think somi released more music with ioi than in the entire 5 years since disbandment

[opal valve]

fuck yg 😭

[molten shuttle]

damnn

love her solos though

lol phanbin doing the dumb dumb choreo

[mint hamlet]

Yeah it’s ioi 14 vs. somi 12

Damn YG

[charred sedge]

ollie hitting ricky cause he was laughing too much 💀
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYpYvS2a/

[molten shuttle]

LMFAOOAOAO

he’s so real

[molten shuttle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1giK8iESzrwLY7drd5RVUJvzQXzAk61QeSu0l3yceqKg/

can we pin this here?

[woeful bluff]

it already is

[hoary wadi]

^

[woeful bluff]

https://vxtwitter.com/tagonideul/status/1643946897877630977

https://vxtwitter.com/thinkingofhui/status/1643966598426812423

[stray lynx]

OMG PARK HANBIN P11 WHO ELSE CHEERED?!?!

[opal valve]

https://fxtwitter.com/seoktthew/status/1644234153167126528?s=46&t=S7YG4Bqi2ni6xxixgC-9Hw

[summer cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-18171147

love to see it

[opal valve]

i will make sure he rises into that top9

[stray lynx]

https://twitter.com/wherewasmariah/status/1644060360125861890?s=46&t=_-sr0sr3un-FcSUTc-L3ww

HAOBIN 🫘 (@wherewasmariah)

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[stray lynx]

Wtf this is so horrific 😭

[summer cairn]

[median haven]

wait a minute if ||phanbin|| went up to 11….

[west valve]

I’m not happy

[median haven]

he was 14 during that little reveal of top 18 that means the ranking changed

ricky could possibly change ranks……

what the fuck was the point of the reveal then AGHHHH

[woeful bluff]

same

[west valve]

At least one of our picks has to be screwed atp

[median haven]

literally clicking around and comparing ranks

i hope to god keita and ricky are safe

if they move down it’s rigged idc

[west valve]

icb he climbed up that much

It’s doomed

And when gyuvin gets back into top 9…

ughhhhhhh

[abstract timber]

i’m ngl i dont want phanbin to debut in bepler

my bad take T-T

[west valve]

I agree with you

He’s good but I don’t want him in this group

[abstract timber]

good for him that he climbed the ranks but not good for my picks srry! 🤷🏻‍♀️

[west valve]

me stressing out over jay and Ricky

[abstract timber]

i want ricky to debut so bad 😭🤞🏽

jay didn’t deserve to be last place in that battle considering he honestly carried over me’s adlibs

[opal valve]

seeing how phanbin climbed 3 ranks in a week with no benefits i don’t think that gyuvin will rise that much he might be at #14 maximum i think

jay might survive with benefits
i don’t think that gunwook dropped a lot he might have kept his rank but he didn’t got that much exposure yesterday
junhyeon def dropped in ranks i don’t think he’s gonna be in that top9
i still have hopes for haruto in the top9 idk where else he would be

[velvet prawn]

So wait. Then does anyone hv the 11th to 18th ranking. Cause I missed the ceremony

[molten shuttle]

no they only released phanbin 11

[velvet prawn]

Ohhh thanks cause I was confused. Like why isn't anyone talking about the other ranks😅. So mnet really just went live just to announce 11th place

[molten shuttle]

yah it’s not surprising anymore 😭 tbt the first time they did that…

[opal valve]

right

[wispy pawn]

SOMI?

[median haven]

agreed with jay and gunwook

we know ricky rose like crazy bc of benefit (14 to 7) and jay was 12 so he has to be in top 9 (i would even be shocked if he was under 12 or stayed the same)