DESTAB | N++ | Page 2

thin mason Jul 17, 2024, 9:53 PM

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yeah mysteriousness doesn't unlock

heady mortar Jul 17, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Oh thats why, I wasnt understanding

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 9:54 PM

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you only get it after 25 nppgold episodes and once youve beaten A-00 through E-19

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thats why im currently making a tab thats gonna be an entire N++ tab

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40 levels into it currently

heady mortar Jul 17, 2024, 9:55 PM

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Destiny could have made dummy levels to allow mysteriousness to unlock

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 9:56 PM

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heady mortar Destiny could have made dummy levels to allow mysteriousness to unlock

||make every other level bramble||

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I considered adding challenges to ALKALINE but decided not to as I thought it would be best if it was a chill experience that could be beaten in a day

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one of my best projects to date

thin mason Jul 17, 2024, 10:01 PM

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lilac sleet thats why im currently making a tab thats gonna be an entire N++ tab

yeah just fill the tab with dummy levels like redux did

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smaller tabs are better

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:12 PM

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thin mason yeah just fill the tab with dummy levels like redux did

what I meant by that was...

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is that I am making an entire tab

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there wont be any dummy levels

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600 levels

thin mason Jul 17, 2024, 10:12 PM

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yeah and I'm telling you to make a small tab

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:13 PM

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im aiming big though

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im not stopping

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ive already started

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ive made 8 episodes

thin mason Jul 17, 2024, 10:13 PM

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with challenges?

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:13 PM

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yes

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cus thats the fun part

thin mason Jul 17, 2024, 10:13 PM

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it's gonna be super low quality lol

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:14 PM

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you seem kinda negative

thin mason Jul 17, 2024, 10:14 PM

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600 levels with challenges is a lot of effort

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:14 PM

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exactly, but anything is possible if you put your mind to it

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ill probably have help along the way sure

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i had the goal in mind of a full tab a while ago

thin mason Jul 17, 2024, 10:15 PM

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hope it's good :)

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:16 PM

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most of the levels in the tab will be somewhat metanet styled, just simple ideas

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ive grown to love metanet levels for their slick and clean design

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it wont be anything like CTP

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as far as difficulty at least

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i might make a discord server related to it like I did with ALK

thin mason Jul 17, 2024, 10:21 PM

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personally I prefer small tabs but I wish you well

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it'll probably take like a year+

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if you put in effort

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:22 PM

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i can get it done in less than a year

red thistle Jul 17, 2024, 10:23 PM

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lilac sleet i might make a discord server related to it like I did with ALK

can i fill it with emojis? nightdelight

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:23 PM

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you know what Emm

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if it makes you happy

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then yes

red thistle Jul 17, 2024, 10:23 PM

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nightdelight

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:23 PM

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I give you my full permission

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trashblobby

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 10:24 PM

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thin mason personally I prefer small tabs but I wish you well

I totally respect your preference, no problem at all with that yup

cold quartz Jul 17, 2024, 10:58 PM

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thin mason yeah just fill the tab with dummy levels like redux did

I might force this on my end for DESTAB. I don't like not being able to see what challenge components I've done, and/or needing to look outside the game for that info

lilac sleet Jul 17, 2024, 11:11 PM

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i wish there was a way that you could just change the code of the game in a situation like this

uneven meteor Jul 17, 2024, 11:30 PM

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thin mason it's gonna be super low quality lol

I don't think a huge quantity of levels + less effort put into each level = lower quality

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it's just a different type of experience where levels are probably simpler and shorter, not a worse one

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I do agree that shorter tabs are nice and consumable

pure galleon Jul 17, 2024, 11:39 PM

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That'd be my recommendation as well, a full tab is a huge commitment that might be overwhelming for a lot of people, who could then simply choose to not bother playing. I wouldn't be surprised to see less activity, rather than more. Just my 2 cents.

uneven meteor Jul 17, 2024, 11:40 PM

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on the other hand, imagine a full tab but with mostly <20s framewars 🤔

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where a casual playthrough can breeze through multiple episodes a minute

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could be satisfying

stable cipher Jul 17, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Framewar tab moleGasm

pure galleon Jul 17, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Yeah if they are indeed quite simple, it would be more manageable

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Could be a nice concept

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Probably not easy to avoid being repetitive if it's all simple concept though I think

cold quartz Jul 18, 2024, 12:18 AM

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filled my tab with filler - look forward to seeing challenge components when I enable mysteriousness at tab conclusion

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250 levels of this

cold quartz Jul 18, 2024, 12:19 AM

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cold quartz 250 levels of this

@pure galleon - I believe you've got server-side checks, but I saw "submitting score" on A-10 before i moved to offline mode

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i alt+f4'd out of panic before seeing a confirmation, but a heads up all the same

pure galleon Jul 18, 2024, 12:20 AM

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Haha yeah don't worry, since that level is outside of the pack's range, it was being redirected to Metanet, so as long as their checks are in place, there's no issue.

cold quartz Jul 18, 2024, 12:21 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/hammaya-relaxed-relax-mr-bean-gif-gif-604132771586296524

Tenor

pure galleon Jul 18, 2024, 12:21 AM

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Also, how was this done in Redux again? Do the levels actually need to have gold or even a ninja?

cold quartz Jul 18, 2024, 12:22 AM

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i think a save was edited - the levels are completely empty/blank

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but 'present'

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i don't know the specifics, but couldn't figure out how to use that tab's setup as a base

pure galleon Jul 18, 2024, 12:22 AM

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Ah, I see. Perhaps something worth experimenting, I guess they at least need to be marked as "completed" in the save

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In which case I was probably the one who did the editing, lol

cold quartz Jul 18, 2024, 12:23 AM

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yeah - all levels marked as completed, with 00/00 gold collected + 0/0 attempts, and I assume no flags to say any challenge components completed

red thistle Jul 18, 2024, 12:31 AM

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uneven meteor could be satisfying

i think that would appeal to a lot of people nightdelight - simple levels are most frequently highscored by the most active highscorers. but if they're simple levels i probably won't get stuck

red thistle Jul 18, 2024, 2:38 AM

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challenge moleHolmes (not sure if there was an intended method i didn't do)

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||also 1/2 expected e-4-4's labels to be a troll, but they weren't tearsofjoy ||

red thistle Jul 18, 2024, 3:15 AM

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i have no idea what i could do in e-8 -4 nightterror

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the second the level starts i die endme

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and it doesn't matter whether i hold left or right either

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watched the replay, might not even be physically possible for me to get through the first part nightterror

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moleSwole

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 5:24 AM

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thin mason 600 levels with challenges is a lot of effort

yeah making 250 was insanity, let alone 600

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and also making sure these are of bearable quality, too

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 5:26 AM

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pure galleon That'd be my recommendation as well, a full tab is a huge commitment that might ...

Yea, I was surprised people wanting to play this beast for a long time considering its difficulty and size

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As much as this tab is forcing you to play long I expected more people to just give up or take this down later

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@delicate oriole screenshot for DESSE84

delicate orioleBOT Jul 18, 2024, 5:29 AM

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Screenshot for Belly of the Beast (DES-S-E-08-04) v1 in palette classic:

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 5:29 AM

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Im pretty sure you have to hold nothing at the start

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And then once your ninja reaches to the shwump with the toggle

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you have to jump

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@red thistle

idle zenith Jul 18, 2024, 6:27 AM

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???

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It's much easier than it looks

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 7:09 AM

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idle zenith It's much easier than it looks

Because you made it :P

idle zenith Jul 18, 2024, 7:09 AM

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But it is

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You press jump once

thin mason Jul 18, 2024, 7:12 AM

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it is annoying but it's easy enough

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the start at least

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the level not so much

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 7:23 AM

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idle zenith You press jump once

Yeah but you wont know about it until youre sure about it

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You can press things randomly and it might work too

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So before youre sure to know what to do that will sink you some attempts if youre less knowledgeable

thin mason Jul 18, 2024, 11:44 AM

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much better (thanks Schmole moleThanks )

cold quartz Jul 18, 2024, 11:56 AM

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Awesome, glad it worked. Hope you didn't mind the jump button mashing - I didn't want the filler levels to be marked as G++ or G-- (not that it matters without the Scodes file I don't think)

thin mason Jul 18, 2024, 11:58 AM

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it only take a couple minutes to mash through the levels - it's fine

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much better than playing without mysteriousness

ruby jasper Jul 18, 2024, 12:25 PM

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yet another coincidence? don't think so 🧐

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 12:41 PM

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LOL

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okay this is honestly incredible

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im actually shook rn 😭

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this literally looks like your design wtf

ruby jasper Jul 18, 2024, 12:55 PM

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LOL i literally gasped when i saw it

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thought maybe you took inspiration or something?

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 1:00 PM

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i first made the mine golds

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then i wanted to use normal squares as tiles you can travel on

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but it all looked kinda bland

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so i went with the idea of making squares out of halftiles

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and just filled the gaps with the mines so it had a cool look lmao

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this really just looks like i stole your design wtf 😭

lilac sleet Jul 18, 2024, 1:07 PM

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my tab will now be 720 levels

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with the addition of ? tab

cold zephyr Jul 18, 2024, 1:21 PM

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lilac sleet my tab will now be 720 levels

??????????????

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you serious?

lilac sleet Jul 18, 2024, 1:23 PM

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yes

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? tab will just be remixes of the N++ tab

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like how they do it in the main game

cold zephyr Jul 18, 2024, 1:25 PM

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damn

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can i help out with playtesting @lilac sleet

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i swear ill do more than 5 levels

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(sorry dest1ny)

lilac sleet Jul 18, 2024, 2:26 PM

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lemme talk about this somewhere else

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I might make a discord server in a bit for it

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 3:29 PM

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cold zephyr (sorry dest1ny)

is okay...

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soggyToast

heady mortar Jul 18, 2024, 3:59 PM

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abho level C-9-4

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 4:49 PM

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@delicate oriole screenshot for DESSC94

delicate orioleBOT Jul 18, 2024, 4:49 PM

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Screenshot for over 200 mediocre levels later... (DES-S-C-09-04) v1 in palette classic:

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 4:49 PM

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heady mortar abho level C-9-4

nope

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also abho has 3 levels moleSmirk

uneven meteor Jul 18, 2024, 6:01 PM

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delicate oriole Screenshot for `over 200 mediocre levels later...` (DES-S-C-09-04) v1 in palette...

even i'd guess this is an abho level

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dronelove

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only way to tell it isn't is the two normal doors 😤

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 7:01 PM

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it was inspired by some metanet level

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i dont remember it tho

heady mortar Jul 18, 2024, 7:16 PM

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topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 7:20 PM

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GG

pure galleon Jul 18, 2024, 7:22 PM

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@delicate oriole des g++ rank

delicate orioleBOT Jul 18, 2024, 7:22 PM

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Rankings - Level G++ rankings for Destab mappack [MAX. 9822] on Thursday July 18 at 19:22:03 (+0000):

00: aight          - 9822
01: CeramicBlue    - 9822
02: kkstrong       - 9822
03: SimVYo         - 9822
04: Slomac         - 9736
05: Kostucha       - 9599
06: Schmole        - 6547
07: dest1ny        - 5919
08: Sky!           - 3969
09: Emmoji         - 3863
10: xetto          - 3174
11: [REDACTED]     - 3018
12: WheatyTruffles - 2406
13: lily           - 1334
14: Frycek         -  641
15: Eddy           -   24```

pure galleon Jul 18, 2024, 7:22 PM

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Nice

thin mason Jul 18, 2024, 8:01 PM

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Right, had a failed submission on one episode

heady mortar Jul 18, 2024, 9:16 PM

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@pure galleon did you already consider putting the ng rank on the "Mine" tab?

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I feel like we talked about it once...

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*Scores Around Mine

pure galleon Jul 18, 2024, 9:18 PM

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The problem is that putting a 3rd board there wouldn't work very well because the game will plaster your local hs score on there instead, at least if it's higher.

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I don't remember the specific details from when I tested it, but only the Friends one ignores the local stuff and simply prints what I send from the server.

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None of the 3 boards work in the same way, surprisingly. They each have their own quirks, but the Friends one is the most normal and predictable one.

heady mortar Jul 18, 2024, 9:29 PM

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Is there option for changing what is put on friends board?

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flip a switch locally and it becomes changes from a speedrun to a NG board?

stable cipher Jul 18, 2024, 9:33 PM

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I have an idea

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If eddy could host three boards like that, perhaps it would be possible to have two different installers depending on what board you want visible? As in, one installer for SR boards and another for NG boards (A jank solution for sure)

heady mortar Jul 18, 2024, 9:38 PM

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Flipping a switch would certainly be more elegant

pure galleon Jul 18, 2024, 9:38 PM

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Also that's not how the installer works, this is all determined server-side

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I could probably do it with an outte command you have the execute to choose your default board

heady mortar Jul 18, 2024, 9:39 PM

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Oh yeah that would work well

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No GUI needed

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So uhhh... whats going on there?

topaz gulch Jul 18, 2024, 9:53 PM

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heady mortar

I had same thing happened to me but I couldnt recreate it!

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I was curious too since I have never encountered this, lmao

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I guess the velocity of ninja is too low to be able to pursue further but at the same time youve made it to the top

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So youre put in a limbo state of being unable to climb it up but then you actually did climb it up

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? no clue

pure galleon Jul 18, 2024, 9:55 PM

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Lol

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Yeah, I guess you keep falling back down to the platform on alternate frames or something

heady mortar Jul 18, 2024, 10:48 PM

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map so long I that I had to figure out how many gold to get instead of how to miss all the gold

idle zenith Jul 18, 2024, 11:22 PM

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heady mortar

??????

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That's funny

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 7:31 AM

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heady mortar

thats the one long map i wanted to keep

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i wanted it to feel nerve racking and like a final boss of sorts

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well, one of them, atleast lol

ruby jasper Jul 19, 2024, 8:22 AM

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topaz gulch i wanted it to feel nerve racking and like a final boss of sorts

a lot of the maps feel like that to me lol

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i love the shorter, more laid-back ones

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 8:40 AM

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ruby jasper i love the shorter, more laid-back ones

I do like em too but I wanted to make a harder tab than the usual ones

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A challenge of sorts

ruby jasper Jul 19, 2024, 8:54 AM

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ye that's fair

cold quartz Jul 19, 2024, 8:56 AM

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https://youtu.be/vW0U-I9pKpc

YouTube

Schmole

N++ - Custom map pack: "DESTAB" (05/??)

Nearing the end of the all gold journey. Probably one more session left, assuming it doesn't ramp up in difficulty significantly.

N++ discord server + DESTAB thread:
https://discord.gg/nplusplus
#1259836732485140562 message

Trailer by dest1ny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltlxeD6G_4...

▶ Play video

ruby jasper Jul 19, 2024, 8:58 AM

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oh jeez, schmole's at it again

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one more video and he'll beat the whole tab

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i gotta hurry up lol

cold quartz Jul 19, 2024, 9:03 AM

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ruby jasper one more video and he'll beat the whole tab

That's the hope! Think I finished up to B or C in the 2nd last column

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 9:17 AM

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Yooo

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Just as I ordered food

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Hell yeah

silver juniper Jul 19, 2024, 10:33 AM

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@topaz gulch mistake on the challenge spreadsheet level number 210. says the level name is 'these blocks want drama', but ingame its 'bumpy road'

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obviously not urgent but just making you aware :)

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 10:40 AM

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silver juniper <@203540032739344384> mistake on the challenge spreadsheet level number 210. say...

oops

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that was a last minute change, will change it right now

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funny how you mention this just as im watching schmole complete this level lmao

silver juniper Jul 19, 2024, 10:45 AM

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haha yeah it seems schmole and i have been going at around the same pace. i just finished column 08 challenges, and was at the same spot as his last progress screenshot when it was posted too

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 10:46 AM

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Dayum another 100% is cooking up!

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Glad to see that :D

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Hope youre not suffering too much doing these challenges?

silver juniper Jul 19, 2024, 12:29 PM

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nope theyve been great so far! a few tough ones for sure but nothing to the point of being miserable to play

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also a good overall balance of difficulty and filler imo

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 12:31 PM

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nice! good to hear :)

ruby jasper Jul 19, 2024, 12:58 PM

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does this level have any gold?

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i know about the ||C switch|| but that's about it

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 1:11 PM

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ruby jasper does this level have any gold?

yes!

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have fun finding out where it is

ruby jasper Jul 19, 2024, 1:13 PM

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ooh okay :D

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damn, that was sneaky

heady mortar Jul 19, 2024, 5:51 PM

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lul

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@stable cipher

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I bet destiny didnt think the glitch tiles would actually help

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@delicate oriole sr anim trace 0 1 for DESSD80

delicate orioleBOT Jul 19, 2024, 5:53 PM

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Replay speedrun traces for kkstrong and Sky! in DES-S-D-08-00 using palette vasquez:

heady mortar Jul 19, 2024, 5:54 PM

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@vale gorge I know you didnt implement glitch tiles, but funny trace impacts other runs too

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 6:05 PM

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heady mortar I bet destiny didnt think the glitch tiles would actually help

that map wasnt made by me moleSmile

heady mortar Jul 19, 2024, 6:05 PM

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I guess thats not that surprising, since there is only one glitch tile use in the pack

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 6:18 PM

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yep

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you can try guessing who made this :P

heady mortar Jul 19, 2024, 6:29 PM

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johnes would be by guess

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 6:34 PM

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heady mortar johnes would be by guess

❌

modern path Jul 19, 2024, 6:43 PM

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W9

heady mortar Jul 19, 2024, 6:49 PM

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w9 not a guest mapper

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 6:58 PM

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modern path W9

he did help with the tiles, true

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lol

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that was a very good guess

heady mortar Jul 19, 2024, 10:00 PM

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I think 0 gold might be possible here, but I dont have the precision to hit it

pure galleon Jul 19, 2024, 10:12 PM

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heady mortar <@140534126099824640> I know you didnt implement glitch tiles, but funny trace i...

He did, that's why the traces work

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They shouldn't affect each other though, it's a bug on my end with the GIF rendering most likely

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 10:16 PM

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heady mortar I think 0 gold might be possible here, but I dont have the precision to hit it

OG version of this level had G--

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Overall the OG version of this was incredibly stupid

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I still think the idea is stupid but its not as annoying as it used to be

heady mortar Jul 19, 2024, 10:17 PM

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This is one of those levels I find really annoying to move in

topaz gulch Jul 19, 2024, 10:19 PM

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Yea thats the whole point

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I really liked how this stupid idea just works

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Kinda a shot in the knee by myself by putting this in but hey atleast its something uniqur

silver juniper Jul 20, 2024, 5:23 AM

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all challenges done!

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:39 AM

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silver juniper all challenges done!

Were you doing only challenges or did you throw in some unneeded NG runs?

silver juniper Jul 20, 2024, 5:42 AM

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nah i was just doing challenges, i may have mistakenly done one or two but wasnt going for them

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are you doing lowgold for the whole tab?

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:43 AM

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Working on it

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sr and ng at the same time

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Still pretty far away

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Kinda sucks to do without some sort of largest spread function in outte or GUI, but working on it all the same

silver juniper Jul 20, 2024, 5:46 AM

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nice, goodluck

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largest spread?

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is that the diiference between highest and lowest score

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:47 AM

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Yeah its a good way to tell what levels you should put next on your list

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Rather than just going in order

silver juniper Jul 20, 2024, 5:49 AM

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generates more competition that way im assuming?

stable cipher Jul 20, 2024, 5:49 AM

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i should be doing NG for levels

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:49 AM

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Competition is already pretty low in tabs

stable cipher Jul 20, 2024, 5:49 AM

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i've just been doing SRs

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:49 AM

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Sr’s gets you most of the way there

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@delicate oriole DES sr total score rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 20, 2024, 5:50 AM

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Rankings - Speedrun level score rankings for Destab mappack [MIN. 217282] on Saturday July 20 at 05:50:47 (+0000):

00: kkstrong       - 406537 (250)
01: aight          - 464522 (250)
02: CeramicBlue    - 533976 (250)
03: Kostucha       - 536280 (250)
04: Slomac         - 553946 (250)
05: SimVYo         - 631020 (250)
06: [REDACTED]     - 287898 (215)
07: Schmole        - 552642 (215)
08: Emmoji         - 394457 (210)
09: xetto          - 314804 (195)
10: dest1ny        - 353983 (185)
11: Sky!           - 109451 (120)
12: WheatyTruffles - 186362 ( 75)
13: lily           - 109221 ( 50)
14: Frycek         -  44179 ( 25)
15: Eddy           -   2338 (  5)```

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:51 AM

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@delicate oriole DES NG rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 20, 2024, 5:51 AM

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Rankings - Level G-- rankings for Destab mappack [MIN. 789] on Saturday July 20 at 05:51:13 (+0000):

00: aight          - 2301 (250)
01: CeramicBlue    - 3182 (250)
02: kkstrong       - 6565 (250)
03: Kostucha       - 7322 (250)
04: Slomac         - 9029 (250)
05: SimVYo         - 9632 (250)
06: [REDACTED]     - 3018 (215)
07: Schmole        - 8211 (215)
08: Emmoji         - 3816 (210)
09: xetto          - 3830 (195)
10: dest1ny        - 5543 (185)
11: Sky!           - 1037 (120)
12: WheatyTruffles - 2384 ( 75)
13: lily           - 1307 ( 50)
14: Frycek         -  640 ( 25)
15: Eddy           -   15 (  5)```

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:51 AM

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@delicate oriole DES rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 20, 2024, 5:51 AM

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Rankings - Highscore overall 0th rankings for Destab mappack [MAX. 300] on Saturday July 20 at 05:51:18 (+0000):

00: kkstrong       - 168
01: Sky!           -  36
02: Kostucha       -  28
03: dest1ny        -  20
04: Slomac         -  18
05: SimVYo         -  10
06: Schmole        -   8
07: aight          -   6
08: CeramicBlue    -   3
09: Emmoji         -   1
10: WheatyTruffles -   1
11: xetto          -   1```

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:51 AM

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All the boards I'm watching

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2/3 moleSwole

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Im not really putting huge effort into it, just enough

silver juniper Jul 20, 2024, 5:53 AM

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ah right, seems challenges on their own get you quite far for ng

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:53 AM

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Yeah, thats why I asked

silver juniper Jul 20, 2024, 5:54 AM

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wait how is the minimum calculated then if nobodys actually got that low?

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:54 AM

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sum of 0ths

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When you get a new 0th, the sum changes

silver juniper Jul 20, 2024, 5:56 AM

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gotcha, quite a cool feature indeed

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 5:58 AM

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Everything outte does is amazing

stable cipher Jul 20, 2024, 6:00 AM

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gonna work on nogolds for a bit

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 6:01 AM

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I find it pretty fun

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Its a way most levels were never intended to be played, which makes some strategies stand out

stable cipher Jul 20, 2024, 6:03 AM

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this one is really annoying for NG

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 6:03 AM

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Im on E-6-4, that is really annoying to ng

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Or low gold, rather

stable cipher Jul 20, 2024, 6:09 AM

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that was rough

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 6:13 AM

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Yeah thats another level that I find annoying to play in general

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Feels like it was made just to be annoying

cold quartz Jul 20, 2024, 6:14 AM

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I think it's a cool one and done level

stable cipher Jul 20, 2024, 6:14 AM

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not too hard to get the sr max either

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 6:15 AM

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cold quartz I think it's a cool one and done level

||Except there are two in the pack||

cold quartz Jul 20, 2024, 6:15 AM

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heady mortar

This one?

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 6:15 AM

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nope

stable cipher Jul 20, 2024, 6:15 AM

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@delicate oriole des screenshot of so-called platformer

delicate orioleBOT Jul 20, 2024, 6:15 AM

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Screenshot for so called platformer (DES-S-E-03-03) v1 in palette wyvern:

cold quartz Jul 20, 2024, 6:16 AM

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Oh that one was cool

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 6:16 AM

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Oh three lol

cold quartz Jul 20, 2024, 6:16 AM

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This one at least you can tell which one way you're gonna interact with. Thought it was a novel idea

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 6:17 AM

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D-9-3

cold quartz Jul 20, 2024, 6:17 AM

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Ah. Not there yet then I guess

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Hopefully tonight ^^

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 6:17 AM

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Now you get ||mini drones under the blocks||

stable cipher Jul 20, 2024, 6:26 AM

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i got 4 here and know I can get 3, 2 would be the limit

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if you can somehow NG the bottom middle gold

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sad that this wasn't a challenge

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this was fun

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i fluked the entire level NGNT lol

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 6:39 AM

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I post the stuff I’m not sure about and usually bobio gives it a shot

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 7:03 AM

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stable cipher this one is really annoying for NG

at first this actually had a G-- challenge lmao

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Glad to see Schmole being a man of culture!

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I hope he enjoys the third installment of sloped oneway maps

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Not too sure if you guys noticed but there are some series of maps scattered

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Like the sloped oneways, oneway jumpers, laser trapdoor maps, corrupted episode... etc

heady mortar Jul 20, 2024, 7:09 AM

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Its hard not to notice

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But corrupted episode is one I’m unsure of

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 7:29 AM

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Its the one where theres levels taken from the tab that are completely rearranged and messed up

thin mason Jul 20, 2024, 8:02 AM

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I only noticed the corrupted episode

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Can't tell what the 04 is a remix of though

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 8:39 AM

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thin mason Can't tell what the 04 is a remix of though

this one is not a remix

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its just the 'plot thickening level'

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lol

ruby jasper Jul 20, 2024, 12:52 PM

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grrrr

cold quartz Jul 20, 2024, 12:57 PM

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had a blast rainbowninja

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 12:57 PM

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Yooo GG!!!

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Glad you liked it :)

ruby jasper Jul 20, 2024, 1:00 PM

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cold quartz had a blast <:rainbowninja:1113672432541257758>

GG!!!!!!!!!

ruby jasper Jul 20, 2024, 1:24 PM

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one more column left

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 1:27 PM

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good luck!

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i like the abundance of G++ episodes, lmao

cold quartz Jul 20, 2024, 2:18 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvV0XuG8-Mc

YouTube

Schmole

N++ - Custom map pack: "DESTAB" (06/??)

All gold completed!
Will get to the challenges at some point, but very satisfied with the tab on the whole. Really great experience.

N++ discord server + DESTAB thread:
https://discord.gg/nplusplus
#1259836732485140562 message

Trailer by dest1ny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltlxeD6...

▶ Play video

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 2:19 PM

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Yesss I was wondering whens the video coming out

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Well looks like I wont be making a GD level for now

cold quartz Jul 20, 2024, 2:19 PM

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i was playing other games, so forgot to take off unlisted...

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 2:27 PM

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How did you miss that gold on peekaboo I will never know

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😭

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And then a switch in what real heist looks like???

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Schmole my guy you need your eyes checked!

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Or maybe you were just tired

cold quartz Jul 20, 2024, 2:30 PM

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peekaboo is on me

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heist is very busy and sound-heavy; i thought i'd gotten it :(

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 3:25 PM

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I have made an important comment with an important question

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 4:39 PM

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holy crap what is this video quality i just got 😭

idle zenith Jul 20, 2024, 4:47 PM

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Pog

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Looks like 144

topaz gulch Jul 20, 2024, 4:57 PM

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ye it is

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feels like 78p tho

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hahalol

idle zenith Jul 20, 2024, 4:59 PM

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Lol

stable cipher Jul 21, 2024, 2:02 AM

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@delicate oriole des ng rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 21, 2024, 2:02 AM

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Rankings - Level G-- rankings for Destab mappack [MIN. 672] on Sunday July 21 at 02:02:12 (+0000):

00: aight          - 2301 (250)
01: CeramicBlue    - 3182 (250)
02: kkstrong       - 6277 (250)
03: Kostucha       - 7322 (250)
04: Slomac         - 9029 (250)
05: Schmole        - 9628 (250)
06: SimVYo         - 9632 (250)
07: xetto          - 4278 (225)
08: [REDACTED]     - 3018 (215)
09: Emmoji         - 3816 (210)
10: dest1ny        - 5543 (185)
11: Sky!           -  596 (120)
12: WheatyTruffles - 2384 ( 75)
13: lily           - 1307 ( 50)
14: Frycek         -  640 ( 25)
15: Eddy           -   35 ( 10)```

stable cipher Jul 21, 2024, 2:02 AM

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drastically lowered my existing gold count

cold quartz Jul 21, 2024, 4:13 AM

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Hard to tell how good that is without having finished the pack haha

stable cipher Jul 21, 2024, 4:14 AM

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i've only gone through about half the levels i've done

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so not great

ruby jasper Jul 21, 2024, 11:41 AM

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well, that was the best (and only) tab i've ever played :) fantastic job to destiny, the guest mappers and eddy !!!!!

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proud to see that such a beautiful creation was brought to life by someone who shares a nation with me lol

topaz gulch Jul 21, 2024, 11:47 AM

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ruby jasper well, that was the best (and only) tab i've ever played :) fantastic job to dest...

thank you! GG

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glad you enjoyed :)

ruby jasper Jul 21, 2024, 12:03 PM

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topaz gulch glad you enjoyed :)

i really did!! you've also inspired me to continue working on my own tab :)

topaz gulch Jul 21, 2024, 12:04 PM

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Hell yeah

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Cant wait to see it

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:D

ruby jasper Jul 21, 2024, 1:17 PM

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@topaz gulch LOL that was a jumpscare and a half

topaz gulch Jul 21, 2024, 1:18 PM

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ruby jasper <@203540032739344384> LOL that was a jumpscare and a half

😭

topaz gulch Jul 21, 2024, 1:18 PM

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ruby jasper <@203540032739344384> LOL that was a jumpscare and a half

wanna try the n level

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in gd

lilac sleet Jul 21, 2024, 5:50 PM

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ruby jasper well, that was the best (and only) tab i've ever played :) fantastic job to dest...

you should check out some of the other tabs like ALKALINE and ASCEND

modest mural Jul 21, 2024, 5:57 PM

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*plugs own tab here*

heady mortar Jul 21, 2024, 6:04 PM

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The best tabs have names that start with the first half of the alphabet

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||Except tab which shall no be named||

topaz gulch Jul 21, 2024, 6:06 PM

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only clever people can get this joke

stable cipher Jul 21, 2024, 11:54 PM

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@delicate oriole des ng rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 21, 2024, 11:54 PM

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Rankings - Level G-- rankings for Destab mappack [MIN. 610] on Sunday July 21 at 23:54:31 (+0000):

00: aight          - 2301 (250)
01: CeramicBlue    - 3182 (250)
02: xetto          - 4661 (250)
03: kkstrong       - 6277 (250)
04: Kostucha       - 6840 (250)
05: Slomac         - 9029 (250)
06: Schmole        - 9628 (250)
07: SimVYo         - 9632 (250)
08: [REDACTED]     - 3018 (215)
09: Emmoji         - 3816 (210)
10: dest1ny        - 5543 (185)
11: Sky!           -  205 (120)
12: WheatyTruffles - 2384 ( 75)
13: lily           - 1307 ( 50)
14: Frycek         -  640 ( 25)
15: Eddy           -   35 ( 10)```

stable cipher Jul 21, 2024, 11:54 PM

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there we go, i've gone through everything i've played now

heady mortar Jul 22, 2024, 1:08 AM

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Thats a pretty significant improvement

stable cipher Jul 22, 2024, 1:12 AM

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one of my largest improvements was on the heist level

vale gorge Jul 22, 2024, 1:49 AM

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heady mortar <@140534126099824640> I know you didnt implement glitch tiles, but funny trace i...

It's a tracing issue, not a simulation issue, so blame @pure galleon

pure galleon Jul 22, 2024, 1:51 AM

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pure galleon They shouldn't affect each other though, it's a bug on my end with the GIF rende...

Oh I already did that 😔

vale gorge Jul 22, 2024, 1:53 AM

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Oh I didn't see it, I was the one that felt like blaming you actually, my bad

pure galleon Jul 22, 2024, 1:55 AM

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Heh no worries, I'm playing, I'm curious why it's happening, will look into it

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Also the GIF stops playing altogether after the ninja goes out of bounds if I open it in Firefox, that's another issue

heady mortar Jul 22, 2024, 1:59 AM

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Seems like an appropriate time to #blamegolfkid

vale gorge Jul 22, 2024, 2:00 AM

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Yes. If there's a problem with the tool and you're not sure whether to blame me or Eddy, blame Eddy. If you're not sure if Eddy deserves the blame, blame golfkid.

pure galleon Jul 22, 2024, 2:02 AM

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D:

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For even extra safety, I suggest to revert that order

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First blame golf, and in the rare cases where that doesn't solve the issue, double check to ensure golf isn't at fault

gritty wedge Jul 22, 2024, 2:10 AM

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I accept the blame

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I accept no responsibility for fixing the problem, however

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That is between Sim and Eddy to work out

topaz gulch Jul 22, 2024, 7:25 AM

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Symbiosis

heady mortar Jul 22, 2024, 6:35 PM

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@delicate oriole sr anim inputs for DESSB60

delicate orioleBOT Jul 22, 2024, 6:35 PM

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Replay speedrun trace for kkstrong in DES-S-B-06-00 using palette vasquez:

heady mortar Jul 22, 2024, 6:35 PM

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Definitely not the fastest possible, but funny demo because I thought I have effed the run, so the ending is almost entirely neutral frames

ruby jasper Jul 23, 2024, 8:32 AM

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do i just run the .exe to uninstall the tab?

cold quartz Jul 23, 2024, 8:41 AM

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Yep!

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 5:22 AM

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@delicate oriole NG scores for DESSA33

delicate orioleBOT Jul 25, 2024, 5:22 AM

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G--s for my only goal is to be confusing (DES-S-A-03-03): 00: Schmole - -3 01: CeramicBlue - 0 02: aight - 0 03: Kostucha - 0 04: Sky! - 0 05: Emmoji - 1 06: [REDACTED] - 7 07: xetto - 8 08: Slomac - 28 09: SimVYo - 32 10: dest1ny - 32 11: kkstrong - 32Scores: 12.

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 5:23 AM

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@pure galleon be warned schmole haxx

gritty wedge Jul 25, 2024, 5:23 AM

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haha how does that happen?

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 5:31 AM

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I told you, its because Schmole haxx ||definitely not because 🥩 🥜 ||

topaz gulch Jul 25, 2024, 5:32 AM

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i just placed some evil gold im sorry

stable cipher Jul 25, 2024, 5:33 AM

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anti gold sounds hilarious

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takes away 2 seconds if you touch it

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 5:33 AM

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I was just thinking about how much fun that idea sounds

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Not anti-gold though. Something relevant to ninja-lore

stable cipher Jul 25, 2024, 5:34 AM

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fool's gold

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 5:43 AM

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Amazing that @delicate oriole screenshot for DESSA31 is not a no gold challenge

delicate orioleBOT Jul 25, 2024, 5:43 AM

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Screenshot for snakeskin reverse (DES-S-A-03-01) v1 in palette vasquez:

modern path Jul 25, 2024, 5:54 AM

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stable cipher anti gold sounds hilarious

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 5:58 AM

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cold quartz Jul 25, 2024, 6:39 AM

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delicate oriole G--s for `my only goal is to be confusing` (DES-S-A-03-03):``` 00: Schmole -...

Uhhhh

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Given I've only played it the once, for all gold, that's pretty funny droneXD

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 6:41 AM

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Dont believe him, he played for haxx

gritty wedge Jul 25, 2024, 6:43 AM

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Playing haxpack in destab?

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What madness is this

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 7:15 AM

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@delicate oriole DES NG rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 25, 2024, 7:15 AM

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Rankings - Level G-- rankings for Destab mappack [MIN. 417] on Thursday July 25 at 07:15:16 (+0000):

00: kkstrong       - 2278 (250)
01: aight          - 2301 (250)
02: CeramicBlue    - 3182 (250)
03: xetto          - 4661 (250)
04: Kostucha       - 6672 (250)
05: Slomac         - 9029 (250)
06: Schmole        - 9628 (250)
07: SimVYo         - 9632 (250)
08: [REDACTED]     - 3018 (215)
09: Emmoji         - 3816 (210)
10: dest1ny        - 5543 (185)
11: Sky!           -  267 (130)
12: WheatyTruffles - 2384 ( 75)
13: lily           - 1307 ( 50)
14: Frycek         -  640 ( 25)
15: Eddy           -   35 ( 10)```

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 7:15 AM

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Finally got there, 2 columns left

cold zephyr Jul 25, 2024, 7:15 AM

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why have 8 people gone g-- for 250 levels

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thats so many

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wait thats not what it is

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 7:16 AM

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Nobody have gone for full G-- yet

cold zephyr Jul 25, 2024, 7:16 AM

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so what is it counting

topaz gulch Jul 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

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Many levels cant be G-- anyway

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

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Minimum gold among submitted scores for full pack

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 7:17 AM

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topaz gulch Many levels cant be G-- anyway

Min 417... so far

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I think the max might be just barely sub 400, but unsure still

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There was a couple in the 7-9 column that I didnt tryhard that could yield good results

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9822 is the max gold, and nobody went for all gold and nothing else moleHolmes

stable cipher Jul 25, 2024, 7:22 AM

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i'm still missing about half the tab

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my 267 score is pretty solid for doing as many levels as i have i think

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 7:22 AM

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Ive put a few lower gold down than you in the levels you have done

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I think all in the 4's columns?

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Unsure

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Felt like you hadnt put in as much effort in your last column yet

stable cipher Jul 25, 2024, 7:24 AM

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i was busy taking back a neon white record the past few days

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swamped with work lately

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so not much time to do stuff

heady mortar Jul 25, 2024, 7:25 AM

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Oh I have 3 columns left

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Since I'm on E2 running backwards

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Its okay, you can stay away and not worry about anything I've been doing last few days

stable cipher Jul 25, 2024, 7:58 AM

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@delicate oriole des ng rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 25, 2024, 7:58 AM

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Rankings - Level G-- rankings for Destab mappack [MIN. 414] on Thursday July 25 at 07:58:45 (+0000):

00: kkstrong       - 2278 (250)
01: aight          - 2301 (250)
02: CeramicBlue    - 3182 (250)
03: xetto          - 4661 (250)
04: Kostucha       - 6672 (250)
05: Slomac         - 9029 (250)
06: Schmole        - 9628 (250)
07: SimVYo         - 9632 (250)
08: [REDACTED]     - 3018 (215)
09: Emmoji         - 3816 (210)
10: dest1ny        - 5543 (185)
11: Sky!           -  232 (130)
12: WheatyTruffles - 2384 ( 75)
13: lily           - 1307 ( 50)
14: Frycek         -  640 ( 25)
15: Eddy           -   35 ( 10)```

stable cipher Jul 25, 2024, 7:58 AM

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cleaned up a couple levels

stable cipher Jul 25, 2024, 10:41 AM

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@delicate oriole des ng rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 25, 2024, 10:41 AM

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Rankings - Level G-- rankings for Destab mappack [MIN. 411] on Thursday July 25 at 10:41:50 (+0000):

00: kkstrong       - 2278 (250)
01: aight          - 2301 (250)
02: CeramicBlue    - 3182 (250)
03: xetto          - 4661 (250)
04: Kostucha       - 6657 (250)
05: Slomac         - 9029 (250)
06: Schmole        - 9628 (250)
07: SimVYo         - 9632 (250)
08: [REDACTED]     - 3018 (215)
09: Emmoji         - 3816 (210)
10: dest1ny        - 5543 (185)
11: Sky!           -  232 (145)
12: WheatyTruffles - 2384 ( 75)
13: lily           - 1307 ( 50)
14: Frycek         -  640 ( 25)
15: Eddy           -   35 ( 10)```

stable cipher Jul 25, 2024, 10:42 AM

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managed to nogold the next three episodes

ruby jasper Jul 25, 2024, 1:34 PM

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delicate oriole Rankings - Level G-- rankings for `Destab` mappack [MIN. 411] on Thursday July 2...

me being fourth without trying to get g-- is crazy lmaoo

delicate orioleBOT Jul 25, 2024, 1:34 PM

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Sorry, I didn't understand your command.

topaz gulch Jul 25, 2024, 1:41 PM

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15 people played this, not bad

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Im glad yall played it ❤️

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Thats a lot in my books

ruby jasper Jul 25, 2024, 1:50 PM

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and i bet all 15 of them loved it :)

thin mason Jul 25, 2024, 1:54 PM

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ruby jasper me being fourth without trying to get g-- is crazy lmaoo

well you weren't trying to get G++ either :P

stable cipher Jul 26, 2024, 4:34 AM

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this was a disgusting mingold

pure galleon Jul 26, 2024, 4:41 AM

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heady mortar <@204332624288677890> be warned schmole haxx

Oh yeah I was aware of this one, but simulation with ntrace fails with his run so I had to fix it the old way, by checking his run manually, for which I was too lazy

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@delicate oriole trace 3 DES-S-A-03-03

delicate orioleBOT Jul 26, 2024, 4:42 AM

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Replay highscore trace for Schmole in DES-S-A-03-03 using palette vasquez:
(Warning: Trace for Schmole is likely incorrect).

pure galleon Jul 26, 2024, 4:43 AM

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Perhaps worth a ping to @vale gorge , seems to be purely one-way subtlety

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Looks correct for the first gold 3 patches

stable cipher Jul 26, 2024, 4:55 AM

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i wonder if it might be an error with how the ninja sometimes snaps to the oneways

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this level is annoying

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cool concept tho

heady mortar Jul 26, 2024, 4:56 AM

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stable cipher this was a disgusting mingold

I thought this might be possible, but was unsure

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Is NG trace a thing?

stable cipher Jul 26, 2024, 4:57 AM

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@delicate oriole des ng anim 0 1 for s-a-05-03

delicate orioleBOT Jul 26, 2024, 4:57 AM

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Traces are only available for either highscore or speedrun mode.

heady mortar Jul 26, 2024, 4:57 AM

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@delicate oriole NG trace 0 1 for DESSA53

delicate orioleBOT Jul 26, 2024, 4:57 AM

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Traces are only available for either highscore or speedrun mode.

heady mortar Jul 26, 2024, 4:57 AM

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:(

cold quartz Jul 26, 2024, 5:15 AM

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delicate oriole Replay highscore trace for Schmole in DES-S-A-03-03 using palette `vasquez`: (**...

Looks a tad different to my run :P
https://youtu.be/AJ3r1bIczdw?t=5m34s

YouTube

Schmole

N++ - Custom map pack: "DESTAB" (03/??)

Continuing on through dest1ny's DESTAB custom pack.

N++ discord server + DESTAB thread:
https://discord.gg/nplusplus
#1259836732485140562 message

Trailer by dest1ny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltlxeD6G_48

Link to download the tab:
https://github.com/edelkas/npp_mappacks/raw/24fd6...

▶ Play video

heady mortar Jul 26, 2024, 5:34 AM

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Sky, you missed NG on B23

stable cipher Jul 26, 2024, 5:50 AM

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heady mortar Sky, you missed NG on B23

corrected, ty

stable cipher Jul 26, 2024, 7:56 AM

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@topaz gulch i'm sorry but this was a miss

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most convoluted allgold for no reason

stable cipher Jul 26, 2024, 8:12 AM

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and painful nogold too

uneven meteor Jul 26, 2024, 8:18 AM

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need to update my list of slang I despise with “this was a miss” 😔

ruby jasper Jul 26, 2024, 8:31 AM

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see kids, this is why my tab won't have any challenges

thin mason Jul 26, 2024, 9:06 AM

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redux is the only tab that did the challenges 'right' tbh

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it's very hard to make them enjoyable in general

topaz gulch Jul 26, 2024, 1:04 PM

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stable cipher <@203540032739344384> i'm sorry but this was a miss

ye ik sorry

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i wanted someone to test this tho but no one wanted :(

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also as a fun fact this was supposed to be a collab map with me n sclews but sclews had no idea what to put here

heady mortar Jul 26, 2024, 7:13 PM

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Sky, D13 too

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 3:02 AM

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This one took me all afternoon

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@delicate oriole NG scores for DESSA14

delicate orioleBOT Jul 30, 2024, 3:03 AM

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G--s for one does not simply see (DES-S-A-01-04):ansi 00: kkstrong - 4 01: Sky! - 6 02: Kostucha - 22 03: dest1ny - 23 04: lily - 23 05: CeramicBlue - 24 06: aight - 24 07: [REDACTED] - 25 08: Emmoji - 28 09: xetto - 28 10: SimVYo - 45 11: Slomac - 45 12: WheatyTruffles - 45 13: Schmole - 45Scores: 14.

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 3:03 AM

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@stable cipher

stable cipher Jul 30, 2024, 3:15 AM

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Nice

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 3:19 AM

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Aww fuck I got one more gold than I thought I did

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3 gold is possible

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Its a stupid one too

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Easily missed if you can get the route which itself is pretty tough

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I dunno that I will try anymore

cold quartz Jul 30, 2024, 3:25 AM

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wow nice

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surprised to see the gold left of the exit switch gone, compared to some of the others

#

getting into/out of the bottom right cube looks nasty

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 3:28 AM

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Yeah thats the stupid one I didnt realize I got

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It was not intentional

cold quartz Jul 30, 2024, 3:28 AM

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soggyToast

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 3:29 AM

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Surprisingly the hardest gold to miss is in the 3rd box

#

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You have to be going the perfect speed

cold quartz Jul 30, 2024, 3:41 AM

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not enough time to bait the thwump, and do a wj off the right side of the one-way?

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 3:47 AM

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Nope

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You have to slide off the one way

cold quartz Jul 30, 2024, 3:56 AM

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heady mortar You have to slide off the one way

cold quartz Jul 30, 2024, 4:13 AM

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how were you getting through here without collecting that top gold?

#

man. some really tight jumps to link together

stable cipher Jul 30, 2024, 4:19 AM

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you can walk on the thwump into that box and sneak under the gold

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but surviving it seems like the hard part

cold quartz Jul 30, 2024, 4:20 AM

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That seems better than trying to beat the thwump down, like I was trying

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 4:26 AM

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Yeah I did what sky said

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As long as you hold left, surviving it is not bad

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 4:31 AM

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cold quartz man. some really tight jumps to link together

Yeah, thats why the run took all afternoon :)

topaz gulch Jul 30, 2024, 2:13 PM

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the funniest thing is when i placed the golds i made them intentionally "be in your way"

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didnt know you can dodge so many

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 2:16 PM

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Yeah I was pretty proud of figuring out how to beat just one on sky

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But then I figured out 3 additional

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 10:13 PM

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@delicate oriole DES NG rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 30, 2024, 10:13 PM

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Rankings - Level G-- rankings for Destab mappack [MIN. 394] on Tuesday July 30 at 22:13:37 (+0000):

00: kkstrong       -  586 (250)
01: aight          - 2301 (250)
02: CeramicBlue    - 3182 (250)
03: xetto          - 4661 (250)
04: Kostucha       - 6657 (250)
05: Slomac         - 9029 (250)
06: Schmole        - 9297 (250)
07: SimVYo         - 9632 (250)
08: [REDACTED]     - 3018 (215)
09: Emmoji         - 3816 (210)
10: dest1ny        - 5543 (185)
11: Sky!           -  333 (160)
12: WheatyTruffles - 2933 ( 90)
13: lily           - 1912 ( 70)
14: Frycek         -  640 ( 25)
15: Eddy           -   35 ( 10)```

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 10:13 PM

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@delicate oriole DES sr rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 30, 2024, 10:13 PM

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Rankings - Speedrun overall 0th rankings for Destab mappack [MAX. 300] on Tuesday July 30 at 22:13:58 (+0000):

00: kkstrong   - 176
01: Sky!       -  79
02: xetto      -  18
03: dest1ny    -   8
04: [REDACTED] -   6
05: Kostucha   -   6
06: Eddy       -   3
07: aight      -   2
08: Schmole    -   1
09: Slomac     -   1```

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 10:14 PM

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@delicate oriole DES rankings

delicate orioleBOT Jul 30, 2024, 10:14 PM

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Rankings - Highscore overall 0th rankings for Destab mappack [MAX. 300] on Tuesday July 30 at 22:14:07 (+0000):

00: kkstrong       - 168
01: Sky!           -  37
02: Kostucha       -  28
03: dest1ny        -  19
04: Slomac         -  17
05: SimVYo         -  10
06: Schmole        -   9
07: aight          -   6
08: CeramicBlue    -   3
09: Emmoji         -   1
10: WheatyTruffles -   1
11: xetto          -   1```

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 10:14 PM

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Pack done moleSwole

pure galleon Jul 30, 2024, 10:25 PM

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Solid effort moleSwole

heady mortar Jul 30, 2024, 11:19 PM

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I’m a bit surprised my no gold total ended up so high

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Not really sure where that came from, maybe a missed a level or two

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Unsure, but not enough to go through every level to find the problem levels

topaz gulch Jul 31, 2024, 4:22 AM

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next time im going to make a tab every gold will be dodgeable except one

cold quartz Aug 1, 2024, 12:54 PM

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@topaz gulch how well do you take unhelpful, unconstructive criticism?

thin mason Aug 1, 2024, 12:58 PM

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are you going for the challenges? :P

cold quartz Aug 1, 2024, 12:59 PM

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yeah

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i just want my string of swears directed at someone sooner than when I merge together videos for YT

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 1:00 PM

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cold quartz <@203540032739344384> how well do you take unhelpful, unconstructive criticism?

Im ready

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Scream yell and curse me off

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😭

cold quartz Aug 1, 2024, 1:00 PM

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this challenge blows chunks, and I hate it.

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obviously the outcome shown in the video is on me, but I despise this level('s challenge - but I'm not fond of the level in general).
The bottom mine in the starting room with mines all around the outside. All of the inside toggles of the chaingun room. The one-way extending out past the floor in the top right room with the gauss.

thin mason Aug 1, 2024, 1:04 PM

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It gets much worse than that

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The challenges in this tab are just bad, gave up on them on 4th (?) column

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Sorry dest, don't hate me 😭

cold quartz Aug 1, 2024, 1:08 PM

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they've been mostly fine so far, but a large chunk I'd say feel uninspired? or maybe, they don't change the level enough in a way that's interesting.

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i did like the no gold on an upwards slope mine jumper level in 00 column

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this one. that was nice, even if not too bad

thin mason Aug 1, 2024, 1:09 PM

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Yeah there are a few fun ones

cold quartz Aug 1, 2024, 1:10 PM

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other standout positives from column 00 in screenshots

thin mason Aug 1, 2024, 1:10 PM

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But most of them range from trivial to annoying

cold quartz Aug 1, 2024, 1:11 PM

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but then there are plenty like this that are just annoying/don't change the level up enough for me

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many of those being perfectly fine levels/all golds, but where needing to have a challenge actually hurts my impression of the levels

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 1:21 PM

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thin mason Sorry dest, don't hate me 😭

grrrr

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Nah I get it if the challenges arent likeable as much, its both the fact that the levels itself are already very complicated or gimmicky enough so it was hard to jam in atleast one challenge into these

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And I kinda suck at making these, too

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But these got progressively better (imo) once you go further into the tab

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I became much more aware

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 1:24 PM

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cold quartz but then there are plenty like this that are just annoying/don't change the leve...

the plan for spaz was to make it G-- and signals from another town and holdings challenges were last minute

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That could explain why these arent as great

cold quartz Aug 1, 2024, 1:24 PM

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G- on spaz coulda been cool - t otally change how it's played!

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 1:24 PM

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i didnt know switches and trap doors count for challenges even AFTER you finish the level... that kinda annoyed me myself ngl

cold quartz Aug 1, 2024, 1:25 PM

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anyway, i am still overall enjoying myself. but i'll just keep chipping away at it slowly :)

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 1:25 PM

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cold quartz G- on spaz coulda been cool - t otally change how it's played!

I was skeptical to add it because the level itself is already hard to navigate

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 1:25 PM

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cold quartz anyway, i am still overall enjoying myself. but i'll just keep chipping away at ...

Yea dont worry it only gets better... and harder. hehe

thin mason Aug 1, 2024, 1:39 PM

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topaz gulch + i didnt know switches and trap doors count for challenges even AFTER you finis...

They don't, door changes color but the game doesn't aknowledge it in any way

heady mortar Aug 1, 2024, 2:00 PM

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NG on levels was perfectly fun, although I am not much for challenges in the first place

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From my POV its a seriously missed opportunity that tab makers never think outside the box make custom challenges (except w9).

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challenges like,

*dont touch any thwumps
*hit exactly 4 toggles
*only jump on curved tiles

etc

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could really push gameplay into something unique and fun

solid sail Aug 1, 2024, 2:15 PM

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So you're saying I should make another J-- map for my tab? But yeah, I'm probably never going to do challenges on a tab unless it's clear that they are well done

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It is really hard to design a unique base, g++ and challenge experience though. It just doesn't work for some types of maps

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 2:37 PM

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thin mason They don't, door changes color but the game doesn't aknowledge it in any way

oh really

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damn

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 2:37 PM

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heady mortar From my POV its a seriously missed opportunity that tab makers never think outsi...

I thought of making them but I didnt know if people would like them or not

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I wanted to make D++ (door button)

heady mortar Aug 1, 2024, 3:46 PM

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I just find the concept of “collect something // dont collect something” generally stale

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Lots of examples of times its a good challenge, but on the whole usually not that interesting to me

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 4:02 PM

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i think it elevates levels enough

thin mason Aug 1, 2024, 4:30 PM

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Not every level needs a challenge

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Forcing one on every level is what makes them stale

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 4:59 PM

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thin mason Not every level needs a challenge

it actually needs for the challenges to work

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i know i could have made it something simple so its done pretty much automatically but thatd be too cheap

heady mortar Aug 1, 2024, 5:57 PM

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AG or NG then

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 5:57 PM

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I actually dont know

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Can you make a challenge be purely G++?

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Like, nothing else to it

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Would that work

uneven meteor Aug 1, 2024, 6:04 PM

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that’s part of the reason I don’t like making secret challenges so much

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if you are making them, every level needs them, and so often it becomes an afterthought

thin mason Aug 1, 2024, 6:39 PM

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topaz gulch i know i could have made it something simple so its done pretty much automatical...

I'd prefer that tbh

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 6:43 PM

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i could not live with the thought of making free challenges

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not my type of thing to do

solid sail Aug 1, 2024, 8:46 PM

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I believe you can just do G++ as the challenge

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 8:51 PM

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We can only know it from the source

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Aka we would have to ask @pure galleon

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Eddy if youre reading this, are challenges that contain only G++ possible?

pure galleon Aug 1, 2024, 8:52 PM

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I haven't tested it explicitly, but I can't see why not, can't think of any problem

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Unless they're specifically checking against that for some reason

topaz gulch Aug 1, 2024, 8:54 PM

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If this could be doable then it would bring a whole new level to the meaning of hard G++ levels

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Where you put standard G++ as a challenge, then you know that this shi is haaaard

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 3:34 AM

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pure galleon I haven't tested it explicitly, but I can't see why not, can't think of any prob...

you could technically get other ones like T++T-- but thats a stupid idea since that would be impossible anyways

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id of thought, if you replaced the codes.txt with other letters than GTOCE then you could in theory make a challenge called A++, but this would also be stupid since its impossible

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AANT for example A++T--

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but thats just silly

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and pointless

cold quartz Aug 2, 2024, 3:43 AM

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lilac sleet you could technically get other ones like T++T-- but thats a stupid idea since t...

Actually, this is the only ++/-- that is possible 🤓

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 5:06 AM

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real ones know whats up...

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 9:09 AM

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cold quartz Actually, this is the only ++/-- that is possible 🤓

Im guessing its a frame perfect, something involving the exit door of the level itself

gritty wedge Aug 2, 2024, 9:10 AM

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Not frame perfect

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Just holding the toggle active while finishing the level

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Counts for both T++ and T--

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 9:10 AM

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That simple?

gritty wedge Aug 2, 2024, 9:10 AM

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yup

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 9:10 AM

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Thats something UnlistedStrats

gritty wedge Aug 2, 2024, 9:11 AM

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I believe continuum singularity is where we were first made aware of that

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With the T-- challenge

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@delicate oriole screenshot of continuum singularity

delicate orioleBOT Aug 2, 2024, 9:11 AM

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Screenshot for continuum singularity (?-C-14) v1 in palette tr-808:

gritty wedge Aug 2, 2024, 9:11 AM

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Successful T-- challenge completion despite having the toggle at the bottom right of the exit activated

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Or upper right

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Maybe both has happened, can't remember

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 9:20 AM

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I suppose it makes sense that T++T-- is the only one since toggles are the only collectable that have three states

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 9:44 AM

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T+-

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state

idle zenith Aug 2, 2024, 10:32 AM

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lilac sleet Thats something <:UnlistedStrats:492302459276886016>

I feel like I've told you this already, and not once

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 10:40 AM

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you havent

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also go to bed 🤣

cold quartz Aug 2, 2024, 10:50 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOfz4kOT0z8

YouTube

Schmole

N++ - Custom map pack: "DESTAB" (07/??) - 00/01 challenges

Moving on to challenges.

N++ discord server + DESTAB thread:
https://discord.gg/nplusplus
#1259836732485140562 message

Trailer by dest1ny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltlxeD6G_48

Link to download the tab:
https://github.com/edelkas/npp_mappacks/raw/24fd6b0/DESTAB.zip

▶ Play video

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:05 AM

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cold quartz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOfz4kOT0z8

Oh wow youre making a gameplay video out of this! Thought you'd present these without a mic and only the completions, that is a nice surprise to see

cold quartz Aug 2, 2024, 11:05 AM

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that requires too much effort ^^;;

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:05 AM

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Lol I could see the editing being pain

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I like this better, too

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Atleast myself because I made it so I like to see the thought process

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:37 AM

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cold quartz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOfz4kOT0z8

||the way you were supposed to do the grate escape at 50 minute mark was making a very high corner jump at the pit where the pad is so you can reach the top floor just barely, then use the toggle mine to jump to the exit||

cold quartz Aug 2, 2024, 11:38 AM

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@delicate oriole des screenshot for grate escape

delicate orioleBOT Aug 2, 2024, 11:38 AM

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Screenshot for the grate escape (DES-S-E-00-00) v1 in palette supernavy:

cold quartz Aug 2, 2024, 11:38 AM

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Oh hm. I like my solution xP

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:42 AM

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cold quartz Oh hm. I like my solution xP

It is more badass, I can agree with that

silver juniper Aug 2, 2024, 11:42 AM

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haha i did exactly the same thing, completely missed the ||corner at the start||

idle zenith Aug 2, 2024, 11:42 AM

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Did he walljump after the spring?

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:43 AM

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Nope

pure galleon Aug 2, 2024, 4:11 PM

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cold quartz Actually, this is the only ++/-- that is possible 🤓

What if there are no entities of a certain type, such as no evil ninjas. You certainly get E--, but what about E++, is this known?

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I guess that, once again, it's a simple test. Just curious if it's been explored already.

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 4:11 PM

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time to test i guess

stable cipher Aug 2, 2024, 4:38 PM

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I believe this WAS tested, and it counts for both

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iirc the test was T--/T++

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 10:16 PM

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no promises im gonna finish this. doesnt really look like my cup of tea, but we'll see

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oh jeez its big

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 10:25 PM

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... trold

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good luck and have fun!

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 10:30 PM

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A-00
-00: well that's excessive. thank god its easy.
-01: hm... i love seekers in claustrophobic spaces, but i found these tiles a bit awkward to move around on, so it was more about routing and less about having fun dodging drones. if youre doing it right, you dont actually have to worry about the drones, really. could be different for highscoring, but felt like a bit of a waste to me. still decent, i enjoyed it.
-02: it's really ugly, and the jumps aren't that interesting. the single-tile gaps are obnoxious; i've already done the jump, give me a bit of wiggle room. i feel like this one was made for the challenge, and completion/g++ suffer for it. not a fan.
-03: weird and ugly, but it plays really well. didnt run into any rendering problems, thank goodness. bottom section is great.
-04: solid minejumper, nice and easy but enough to make you think. launchpads were classy. its messy but readable, i approve

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 10:31 PM

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woeful glade A-00 -00: well that's excessive. thank god its easy. -01: hm... i love seekers i...

first time hearing about 02 being worse than good

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the level before challenge had gold all over the place so it was really just built like that, sadly lmfao

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 10:36 PM

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welp im stuck

uneven meteor Aug 2, 2024, 10:39 PM

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i'm not saying you shouldn't, but don't you think approaching every level with a scrutinizing attitude might make it more exhausting to get through the tab?

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 10:41 PM

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i had to look up what scrutinizing meant ngl

uneven meteor Aug 2, 2024, 10:42 PM

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good word

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 10:42 PM

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noted in my brain for future usage

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 10:43 PM

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maybe? it doesnt take much effort to say what i think tho, not compared to playing the levels. it was pretty tough for alkaline cuz i didnt have strong feelings about most of them, but thats doesnt look like a problem here, so far

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 10:44 PM

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yea its either you hate a level or love it

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rarely theres a level where you cant say much

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:00 PM

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B-00
-00: had to look at a demo to figure out that one patch of gold, and still struggled with it. 26 attempts is far from outrageous, but it felt a bit weird to have only one spot of difficulty in an otherwise trivial map. nice and boring, overall. nice to look at. palette cleanser. i liked the thwump
-01: very easy, very fun. tiles and gold give it some character. good map.
-02: im really bad at minejumpers on a slant like this. not my cup of tea at all, but i think it was well done. i have to go back for the exit switch. tiles are nice, mines & gold are kinda ugly
-03: i mostly just feel like im missing something here. maybe if you were locked into one attempt? are the challenges supposed to be done in one excursion? i did two trips for g++ the first time, but i tried again and theres plenty of excess time with a single trip. nothing wrong with a loose timer, but felt a bit weird to me, idk
-04: visually excessive, but very unique and fun. i didnt like losing track of the minidrones, but they worked nicely, and the laser was solid. not sure im sold on the aesthetic, but i think that's gonna be a theme here, so i'll shut up about it unless it gets really egregious. fun stuff.

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:02 PM

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yea im a big fan of aesthetics so prepare for the most outrageous combinations of entities possible

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i used up all my brain for these

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yeah i didnt want to make race against time be very tight on the clock

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so everyone can enjoy it

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oh and G++ being hard is a common theme so prepare for it

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even the easiest maps may hold the hardest golds

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:05 PM

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i like aesthetics, i just dont like your aesthetics :p

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hmmm, maybe i should just do completions for now... i tend not to enjoy myself when im struggling

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:06 PM

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woeful glade i like aesthetics, i just dont like *your* aesthetics :p

sadness

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To each their own I guess soggyToast

heady mortar Aug 2, 2024, 11:12 PM

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Honestly thats how I feel about it too

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I like smooth, destiny likes pointy

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:12 PM

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ur the one who tried to decorate poledancer

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for me its more about the clutter. readability is important to me

heady mortar Aug 2, 2024, 11:13 PM

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This tab might as well be called clutter

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 11:13 PM

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i despise spiky levels

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rainbowpuke

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:14 PM

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i despise evil ninjas and boosters holy shit

heady mortar Aug 2, 2024, 11:14 PM

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My comment was not so much about poledancer as an excessive number of undecorated maps in the pack

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:16 PM

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u just hate strippers smh

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 11:16 PM

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kkstrong, exposed?

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:18 PM

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I like decoration

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And levels

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and maps

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 11:19 PM

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do you decorate your christmas tree with evil ninjas? spiky tiles, mines and boosters?

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:20 PM

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C-00
-00: it's fine. it's pretty. it's not great to move around in. part of me wants there to be an enemy, but i suspect that would just lead to excessive suffering. it's fine. it does the job
-01: was difficult to figure out where to go, but it was a slow, unhurried map and i liked exploring it. thwumps and static lasers worked really well. satisfying.
-02: i don't like boosters. i dont like evil ninjas. i dont like backloaded difficulty. guess how i feel about this map
-03: oh look, a map specifically designed to make me miserable. success! serious question, what was the point of this?
-04: sexy. wish it were slightly more fun to move around in, but the lasers were really cool and i loved the big bloops, and the contrast between the big bloops and the kinda digital/corrupt central structure. good aesthetics 👍

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:27 PM

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lilac sleet do you decorate your christmas tree with evil ninjas? spiky tiles, mines and boo...

Almost, yeah, I got a xmas tree map somewhere posted in userlevels

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i can confirm when making 02 and 03 i kept in mind to annoy you trold

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03 was just a gimmick i felt like id give some spotlight

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really nothing else

lilac sleet Aug 2, 2024, 11:29 PM

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topaz gulch i can confirm when making 02 and 03 i kept in mind to annoy you <:trold:10335079...

fatal mistake

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:31 PM

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its funny you mention corruption for 04... if you keep playing the tab you will see why

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:33 PM

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D-00
-00: very pretty in quench. i kept dying in stupid ways, which wasn't fun, but was also not your fault. thwumps arent my favorite but they worked nicely here. good.
-01: too long. decent, but too long. reduce, and cut out the backtracking
-02: pretty. not excatly interesting, but fun enough to move through that i didnt mind. felt designed for challenges.
-03: surprisingly decent use of stupid bb mechanics. not necessarily fun, but satisfying and interesting enough that i like it. i like the fall for the challenge; not so sure about having to go thru it twice, though
-04: disturbingly reminiscent of that zarah map in ctp. still plenty fun, though, hard to go wrong with oneways and deathballs. easy, but solid pressure.

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:37 PM

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nice

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all i gotta say, im eepy lol

gritty wedge Aug 2, 2024, 11:48 PM

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no

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not allowed to be eepy

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:50 PM

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E-00
-00: ....you just really wanted to use those oneways, didn't you? looks cool. no real gameplay, i wouldnt have minded a couple more floorguards or something, but its fine as is, nice and simple. wasnt a fan of the hidden door, but like, its pretty obvious lol so not a real problem
-01: oh fuck this shit. its just not fun. moving around sucks. not horribly long, thank god, but felt like an eternity. bad.
-02: really cool! love the idea, and was definitely fun to play. the uhhh, the positioning/sizing of the oneway passages was sometimes confusing, got me killed once or twice, but that's a minor annoyance at most. very cool stuff.
-03: my brain struggled wiith this one a lot more than i should have lmao, i could not figure out what to do. it was cool though. nice simple concept, executed well
-04: really ugly. very grateful i beat this first try, some of the gold is just kinda meh to collect; the gauss room felt really awkward to me. probably means im doing it wrong. rocket was nice and scary at the end, but i would probably feel differently if it had killed me :p Not my favorite

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oh but of course

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:54 PM

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people really dislike round ground tiles i have noticed

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:57 PM

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i dont mind round, i hate round + spiky so there arent any smooth curves to use, just gross

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:58 PM

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some cool trivia about the map is that it had 5 different level names

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and its inspired by a song titled rivers of another town

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and these were initially flowers

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but then i added enemies and they kinda look like satellites or signals of sort

woeful glade Aug 2, 2024, 11:59 PM

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its pretty, as art, just not as a map

topaz gulch Aug 2, 2024, 11:59 PM

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true

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 12:16 AM

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gettin real tired of this shit

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thrice now ive gotten to the last piece of gold

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 12:42 AM

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whyyyy

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 12:57 AM

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That level grows on you

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 1:03 AM

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A-01
-00: very pretty! not sure the enemies made the best use of the tileset. pretty cute tho.
-01: another case of "completely trivial, one tough part at the end" which is just not my favorite. felt very very metanet. not bad, but i wasnt a fan
-02: cute and simple, i enjoyed it
-03: oh jesus christ what an abomination. 62 attempts. it's just... gross. its so hard to tell where the minidrones are, its hard enough to see where the oneways are... trying to keep track of both of them, and then having to collect gold on some preeeetty awkward tiles, it just sucked. i had to change palettes a few times. and it was SO LONG. WHY SO LONG. i really really disliked this.
-04: this level did not, in fact, grow on me. long and mostly boring, with one stupid hard gold at the very end. why are there boosters and bounceblocks in the thwumps? were you trying to hide which direction they faced? cuz that's obnoxious. i had to change palettes to find one where i could see, but i still couldn't tell, peripherally, and made plenty of mistakes. then... 8 of my 56 deaths were due to clipping oneways and getting boosted to oblivion. would i have survived if the boosters werent there? probably, yeah, so that sucked. it was long and boring and had like two or three pain points, including some really boring waiting for the upward facing thwump. bleh. at least it looks really sexy.

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....and putting two long miserable levels side-by-side is just cruel

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 1:23 AM

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B-01
-00: this was nice. simple and easy, fun to jump around, looks nice to route and highscore, too
-01: weird. another instance of seekers being used as more of a routing influence than an active enemy. i would have prefered it to be more chaotic (and more clear on the tiles; i didnt like the weird oneway shit here, was kinda confusing.) it was an interesting idea, but im not sure how well it worked.
-02: a very normal, easy map. does not feel very destiny. nothing special, but it was nice to play.
-03: super cool stuff. those diagonals were super scary, but its a short enough map that i didnt mind. good pressure all around, very very fun. kinda ugly gold.
-04: another normal map! how strange. i never knew where the laser could reach, which was unfortunate; and the topmost gold was awkward and just kinda sucked. i feel like i might have been missing some flow/jumps. it was overall decent, but not as fun as it looked. not really sure how i would improve on it, tho

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 1:46 AM

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A-1-4, why boosters… probably for challenge, but if not that because destiny made the map and likes clutter

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 1:53 AM

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i believe its the latter, but we shall see. i cant see how they would be part of a challenge

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 2:24 AM

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C-01
-00: it's fine. i feel like i should be able to go fast, but i cant get thru that middle section well if i try. so i have to wait around a bit, which isnt great.
-01: surprisingly fun. dont usually care much for shwumps, but there were a lot of fun little jumps here. they worked well with the 8 tiles. challenge looks fun too. lovely little map.
-02: i was so prepared to love this. 147 attempts later, im just glad i dont have to play it again. that first outer gold is just such a bitch to get. the gauss are soooo overtuned, holy shit, they just murder me forever and always. i especially hate the one that can see that outer gold. i just died a lot and it was never satisfying, and it's always cuz im just too stupid for this fucking game, just me jumping into lasers over and over again. its probably a good map.
-03: very nice. i didnt like having to wait for that first thwump to get the first gold every single attempt, but, well, i see the highschorers dont do that, so i just suck, as per usual. the rest was a blast, very nice mechanics, good use of thwumps and chimneys
-04: kinda uninspired. closing lasers is fine and all, but this just feels really generic.

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 2:55 AM

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D-01
-00: easy little jumpy map, fun
-01: that is.... a lot of setup for a dead simple map. a lot of effort for something i spent ten seconds on and left behind. i dunno, just seems weird. wasnt bad, by any means.
-02: kinda long. i liked the spinny drones. second chaingun was an asshole, killed me like three times where i swear it shouldnt have. eh. it was a passable level. i wasnt impressed, but i didnt mind playing it.
-03: ugh. what a great level, but also, fuck you. why do we have to put super hard jumps at the end of long maps. it just makes me cry. drone-diving was a ton of fun at first, but after doing it enough it was just frustrating and tedious. i also had to look up a demo to figure out how to get to the exit because im a fucking idiot and it just made me feel so dumb that i wanted to cry which is totally not your fault. im gonna take a break after this. great map, i just really hate that backloaded difficulty. 5/67
-04: good survival. i think i did t-- which was fun. but i didnt get anything, and if its g--t-- then holy shit that looks brutal. anyway, what i did was fun. i wish there hallway didnt have a single-tile entrance. always feels like shit to flub that and die.

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time to not play n++ for a while

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 3:28 AM

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It makes me happy when people say things like “8 tile”

cold quartz Aug 3, 2024, 3:52 AM

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woeful glade for me its more about the clutter. readability is important to me

I don't rly think I saw a level with clutter?

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:00 AM

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i assume we have different defenitions

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thats not how u spell that

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like i found this a bit distracting, even, with all the decorative oneways and shwumps and stuff. just busy enough that my eyes arent sure whats happening if im not actively looking at it

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this one was really hard to tell what was going on. sure, it looks nice, but there are a ton of entities that could be cut if readability was more important than aesthetics, which it is to me. that's a personal take, of course, and im not gonna tell destiny to stop making things pretty

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the oneways here, like what is happening

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its only a few levels so far, really. i was afraid it would be much worse. destiny usually goes hard on decoration

cold quartz Aug 3, 2024, 5:01 AM

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Interesting. All of those levels were clear to me. I got more annoyed when the aesthetic inadvertently interrupted my gameplay (weird one way/tile interactions, etc)

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I've also played levels though with crazy busy exteriors, but I only rly noticed it at the start/end

One exception was a level with boost pad walls now that I think of it. I got lost because it was distracting / made it hard to tell the path. Very big map (playable area big)

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 5:22 AM

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As someone who tries to go fast most of the time, the weird one way/tile interactions bothered me so so much

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 6:24 AM

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Haven't noticed any of those yet, thank goodness

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 6:33 AM

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It happened to me a bunch

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One ways in tiles where they killed speed

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Theres a whole level dedicated to that concept

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But it happened alot

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 8:48 AM

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woeful glade A-01 -00: very pretty! not sure the enemies made the best use of the tileset. pr...

yea the goal of last level was to hide the thwumps so youd have to learn where they are

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As someone who keeps building overdecorated maps, it has helped me a lot in navigating through them

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Nowadays its hard for me to not notice something or having a hard time figuring out what to do in a map

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 3:24 PM

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that is bananas

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 3:28 PM

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Apples to oranges or whatever they say

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 3:28 PM

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noooooooo, bananas

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tbf I just hate memorization and routing. I much prefer to just improvise. So not being able to do that... hurts, especially cuz my memory kinda sucks

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Also one of the main reasons I can't stand evil ninjas

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 3:46 PM

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okay back to the grind

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 3:50 PM

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have fun!

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 3:52 PM

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hmmm

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:06 PM

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moleSweatZ

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:09 PM

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E-01
-00: spoons are nice. i like spoons. nice little playground
-01: this is cool. quite easy, but i dont mind.
-02: nice evil ninja use, ive always liked small amounts of them. not fantastic, but its pretty, and the lasers and ninja work well together. very solid.
-03: i dont like those little spinny drones, but its quick and theyre near the beginning, so you get a pass from me. easy once again. hilarious how much easier and shorter this episode is than A-01
-04: i gave in early and looked at a demon, and thank FUCK for that. once i knew the route it was a solid map. the tough jump is near the beginning, instead of the very end, like i initially thought. thank you. not sure how i feel about the gimmick. i would never have gotten this without replays. i tried getting past the door a couple times; i feel like it should be possible, but it takes a long while to reach, and then theres two really hard jumps at the end... yeah.... hm

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:10 PM

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trold

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quite literally!

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:14 PM

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whats literal?

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oh

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but yeah, is it possible from the top?

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:19 PM

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woeful glade but yeah, is it possible from the top?

nope

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this is a pure trold

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:22 PM

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A-02
-00: i dont like the embedded gold, but i guess thats just aesthetics. plays very well, very fun little map
-01: oh i didnt even notice the faces til i came back to this. cute. probably a fast way to do this, but i just chilled and took it slow and it was still pretty satisfying. i like the thwump inversion, makes both gold areas play totally different
-02: well thats messy. super simple map, tho, so i didnt have any problems with it. pretty fun, looks nice
-03: fine. tiles were a bit overwhelming, but the flat bits were kindly positioned. not terribly exciting
-04: not sure how i feel about three laps, but the gimick was cool and i got it first try, so i got no room to complain. i quite liked both the ascent and descent.

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:23 PM

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topaz gulch nope

honestly not sure if this makes it better or worse. i am morally outraged.

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:25 PM

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hehe

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thats the goal

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i didnt take the tab as serious as i (maybe) should have

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:26 PM

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i dont like ur goals, sir

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:26 PM

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theres plenty of trolls or jokes

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but nothing SUPER annoying (i hope)

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:27 PM

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is there any way to figure that out without demos, tho? thats the part that gets my goat. im usually firmly anti-demo until im reeeeally stuck, like, at the point of tears

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(i cry easy so thats not so outrageous, but still)

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:29 PM

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woeful glade is there any way to figure that out without demos, tho? thats the part that gets...

i think some palettes can reveal the oneway but otherwise not really unless you have the knowledge beforehand that you can do tech like this in a level

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i showed this before to some people if they could figure out without playing and some did so

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:29 PM

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i mean ive seen it in userlevels before

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welp

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guess im just stupid, as usual

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:29 PM

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its really an experience each to thier own

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nah dont feel stupid it is niche knowledge afterall

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i think looking at replays to figure out how to get stuff, especially in this tab, isnt cheating

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 4:30 PM

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No, it was really unfair of destiny

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:30 PM

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it is trold afterall

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 4:31 PM

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I found it using an unpublished custom palette, none of the metanet palettes I tried revealed

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:31 PM

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shouldnt console or whatever the palette is called reveal it tho?

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its a bright white one with gray outlines

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 4:31 PM

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I might not have them all unlocked on this save

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:31 PM

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dammit im gonna have to quit out and turn on sound for wall of perish lmao

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 4:32 PM

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For me, your levels started at a base level of ugh, so troll levels that go up and over that just disgust me

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:32 PM

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theres a gamification platte pinned in uh... uh... the custom tab info thread

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:32 PM

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heady mortar For me, your levels started at a base level of ugh, so troll levels that go up a...

get trolled noob /j

stable cipher Aug 3, 2024, 4:32 PM

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i can see it on most palettes, it juts out a pixel or two

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it's easiest to see when the oneway is a much brighter color than the floor

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:33 PM

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the levels may be a little silly sometimes

stable cipher Aug 3, 2024, 4:33 PM

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admittedly i know to look for stuff like that because of some old userlevels pixl/halica/ava made that used weird interactions like that

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:33 PM

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nvm got it, phew

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:34 PM

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i just purely messed around and glued everything together to try to make an unique experience >_<

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 4:34 PM

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No no, the pack is well done and polished

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:34 PM

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hehe... polished

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kurwa

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 4:34 PM

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Doesnt stop me from hating parts of it

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:34 PM

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oh yea for sure

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theres something for everyone in there, both to love and to hate

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 4:35 PM

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Its like screamo music

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Its well done in its own right

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:35 PM

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as long as the maps arent neutral or meh, i am all good receiving love and hate

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 4:35 PM

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Its just not for me

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:35 PM

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imagine putting out work and its just meh for everyone

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i would feel terrible lol

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 4:38 PM

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B-02
-00: huh, havent played that in a while. amusing, good job
-01: gorgeous! wow, i love this, dont even know why. looks really cool, easy little jumps. did t-- because idk looked more satisfying, but i went back and did normal g++ and it was still very fun. great map
-02: oh man i love it when irritating bounceblock mechanics are done right! this was a ton of fun. very pretty, very fun to wriggle thru, liked the launchpads, great map
-03: huh. i really enjoyed this, but if it had taken me another thirty tries i would probably despise it. lucky me, i guess! didnt even turn on my sound!
-04: oh very nice, its easy but the lasers are INTIMIDATING, looks very cool haha. what a great episode, probably the best so far, very nice

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aaaand breakfast time!

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 4:41 PM

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woeful glade B-02 -00: huh, havent played that in a while. amusing, good job -01: gorgeous! w...

wow a fully enjoyable episode

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nice

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thats hype

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enjoy breakfast!

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 5:42 PM

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C-02
-00: it's fine. jump jump jump. chaingun is nonthreatening, but i think thats for the best, honestly. probably more fun to do fast; took me quite a while to get all the gold, which wasnt thrilling
-01: very boring
-02: eh... looks really cool, and the laser concept is great, but those tiles are completely unfun to move on. they only really work when your doing perps; the ascent on the right is fun, but the rest is just frustrating and obnoxious. too bad, cuz this is otherwise a really cool map. just aint fun as is, tho
-03: oh jeez, gross. more awkward tiles, little awkward one-tile gaps on jagged slanty tiles, and laser pressure to top it off. it's mostly just the central corridor that ruined this for me, but even the "better" sections were not fun. pretty tiles do not always make fun movement
-04: why is this so long? and why, for the love of god, is the last switch in the exit, not the exit switch? luckily for me, i assumed you were being a right bastard and went to the exit first. very rude tho, not fun or funny, especially on such a long map. it was especially irritating when a drone ended up going into the chimney and i just had to waaaaaaaaaaaaait it out. i really really liked the actual map and gameplay of this one; i think if you'd reconsidered the chimney and the last switch, i would have loved it

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 5:44 PM

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woeful glade C-02 -00: it's fine. jump jump jump. chaingun is nonthreatening, but i think tha...

01 at first had laser drones... then i thought they slow you down too much so i decided to delete them

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not attack on anyone, but one thing that i dont understand from all of the judgement ive got from this tab is that people dont treat G++ as a challenge in itself in some levels and then they get mad that its very hard (in any way possible), since I stated myself that G++ isnt the easiest task and you really need some determination and preparation in order to get them all, and I highly recommend base-clearing the level instead of all golding it on your first try because the judgement might be a bit off. atleast thats what i think, maybe im wrong but i wanted to throw an observation i had

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not saying that the judgements are not right because any judgement is however it feels to me like people are judging the levels based on their first clear which is mostly G++

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 5:51 PM

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thats probably true. i dont really know why, but thats generally how people play map packs, though. i know i do, until it gets too hard. maybe im just lazy and dont wanna play em twice, idk

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 5:52 PM

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yeah ive come to notice that that most people just go straight for G++

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i get the approach because i do it myself however if i feel like im going to struggle in a level because the G++ feels like its gonna take me a long time I just dont do it and come back to it treating it as a challenge

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 5:53 PM

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i would like to enjoy myself even when going for the gold, though. i dont mind difficulty. i just dont like frustration, idk

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 5:53 PM

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all good, i understand that

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 6:10 PM

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aight i took your advice

D-02
-00: nice and simple and looks cool. challenge seems fun.
-01: wow, this really should have been fun, but it sucked ass. completion is fine, if uninteresting. the real pain point here is the intersection between the orthogonal and diagonal oneways, just miserable, killed me many a time. besides that, it's just so... big, and the sides arent fun -- i don't like having to just run across the floor and climb up the bare walls and stuff, feels very... i dunno, bland. its much more fun to have stuff to climb (even if that stuff has shitty stupid corners that murder you).
-02: solid rocket map, platforms worked well. dying to launchpads felt bad, but was entirely self-inflicted. fun.
-03: pretty cool, looks very nice. i coulda used some more variety, but who doesnt like zoomin around curves, yeah? it was fun
-04: ohhhhh lord that is overwhelming. completion was scary but fair. g++ fucking terrifies me. i'll do my best. i cant say i find it fun; the vertical hallways are unreadable and dying in them feels like shit, and waiting for the drones in the lil halls isnt exactly satisfying. it's far from a bad map, and as far as monotone marathons go, i seems pretty solid. just not my thing.

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its growing on me, but that top right gold is rude

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three drones in that tiny lil space? aaaa

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 6:21 PM

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hehe

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imagine theres a challenge, too

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(i think you can easily deduct what kind, too)

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 6:25 PM

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got it! only 70 tries, not terrible. im not sure i enjoyed it, but its a really good marathon map, ramping up the tension as you try desperately to not die and have to redo the whooole damn things AGAIN

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 6:30 PM

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lol

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GG

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i had fun making and playing this map tbh

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its the right amount of confusion imo

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 6:34 PM

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absolute garbage. only 26 tries, but every one of them was suffering. god dammit, my g++ didnt even submit cuz it was so much slower than base completion lmao. but like... so. fucking. much. tripping. the gold pieces in the corners fucking suck because i always hit the vertical oneway and get blocked, instead of sliding in on the diagonal. whenever i want to make a perp, i bop into a vertical oneway and ruin my momentum. its just hell. miserable. and the gold on the far sides is just... it takes so long? its completely inconvenient to collect. legitimately the best part of this map was jumping on normal doors, which i never thought i would say. guuuuhhhhhh. very curious if other people enjoyed this; i might just be really bad at managing the oneways

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 6:35 PM

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yeah i didnt like how the level turned out in the end

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i think i might give some personal commentary of which levels i am not proud of in retrospect

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 6:51 PM

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E-02
-00: i already completely forgot this map lmaoooo. pretty pointless, not a big fan
-01: i love this! the gold and mines and tiles look soooo good, and the chaingun is easy but fun. i dont like the lasers they are very distracting but the level is just lovely otherwise
-02: uhhhhh right thats a mess. i feel so, so bad for the poor bastards who play with sound on, holy shit. it many have been more fun if one or two of them did escape, i dunno. it wasnt especially satisfying
-03: uhhhh completion was fun! structure is really cool. but is there any way to make collecting that gold fun? that is a literal fuckton, and its not really satisfying to collect, and then you randomly die. not looking forward to finishing this
-04: pretty good. I hated the last descent before the exit; it was really tight, and i died there so many times. the rest was fine. i dont love the bounceblock shenanigans, but the deathball provides nice pressure for them. it's okay.

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got it. only 22 attempts, but my replay is over two minutes long. gold just isnt that fun to collect. cool structure, gold placement just doesnt work for me

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 7:04 PM

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woeful glade E-02 -00: i already completely forgot this map lmaoooo. pretty pointless, not a ...

wow not appreciating the thought and creativity of 00 💔

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probably the most poetic map yet

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 7:04 PM

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explain

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 7:04 PM

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its either white or black

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tldr

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too busy to explain rn 😭

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 7:06 PM

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inspirational

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 7:08 PM

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woeful glade inspirational

okay so basically i was listening to https://open.spotify.com/track/2QlGj7JaBv2jggcK99kPKQ?si=8d335c284b3b4a6d this song, and these lyrics came by when i was creating levels, and i liked them so much i changed them a little bit and gave it my own meaning

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the song itself is spoken poetry basically

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i should have shown this, would be more accurate though

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large portion of this tab is inspired by music i listened to when making it, i should make a playlist lol

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 7:12 PM

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mm, mm!

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A-03
-00: kinda cute, good filler. end gold was cool
-01: fine. forgettable. that's okay tho
-02: i didnt really enjoy this. the first jump was really hard, and the gauss were surprisingly effective. it had some really fun parts; i liked going back and forth at the beginning, and jumping thru the ninja gaps, those felt good. but completion is absolutely trivial and those two patches of gold are pretty darn frustrating to me.
-03: well. thank god its short and enemy-free. pretty fun to mess around with, even if my brain cant process it
-04: oh lordy, that's long. that is long. not my favorite. kinda of a run-of-the-mill minejumper, but with boosters instead, just to add insult to injury. they just make my deaths feel more pathetic lmao. its probably fine

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 7:28 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1UMUsQiUfmLbP2cWa9E741?si=1164e44b261343cf

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heres the playlist

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it consists mostly of rap

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 7:54 PM

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B-03
-00: man, i dunno. first time i tried this, that last gold was such a bitch, i gave up. when i came back i got it first try. im really divided on this one. i think its a very good map, probably. trivial completion again.
-01: pretty boring, not fun jumps or anything. not impressed
-02: the top part is great. unfortunately, all the jumps to get to the top part are ass. they're all gross and finicky, not big and cool and satisfying. they all feel awkward. completely trivial completion again. i guess it's not bad to have easy completion for tougher g++ levels, but it feels weird, like im not actually supposed to be going for completion, you know? like clearly the whole point here is the gold. same with snek, and a few others
-03: this was very cute.
-04: glad i watched a demo here; i really didnt think that first jump was possible. pretty easy once i actually gave it a fair shot. its fine i guess

thin mason Aug 3, 2024, 7:56 PM

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That -02 made me give up on challenges

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Pure trash

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 8:02 PM

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when i made why so mad? it was that time when i realized people would be mad at a level or two so i decided to make a silly joke map about it

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and i made it be another level in which someone could get mad over

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im a menace, sorry not sorry

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 8:07 PM

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wow

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C-03
-00: again, trivial completion makes me feel like completion is pointless. the gold is... impressive, but not exactly fun. i didnt like it, but i can see that it has a place here.
-01: trivial and uninteresting and i accidentally took the 0th wheeeee. tiles are super pretty, and its decent filler. i guess.
-02: oh this one is really good. finally lmao. seekers worked nicely here, tiles were great, structure was pretty fun. good idea, good map
-03: i call this one "jump and pray" because i have no fucking idea where the lasers can reach. total crapshoot. pretty easy, thankfully, or i got lucky. not much fun though.
-04:this one just made me feel really stupid. looks like i basically did it right, it was just kinda uncomfortable. didnt feel like i solved a puzzle, i just, i dunno. probably a good map, but my experience with it was not pleasant

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 8:19 PM

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wow finally someone who says the map is awesome but i dont agree with it

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talking about 02 btw

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the curves make it a bit too messy and easy to die on plus the bottom part is a stinker

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and i admit it, 01 was focused more on the challenge than the map itself, sorry

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lol

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its the hardest challenge in the tab too btw

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from my experience atleast

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 8:26 PM

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yeah that's kinda how it felt lol. it was fine tho, not every map needs to be notable

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i liked the curves a lot, thought it was interesting

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D-03
-00: wow, this worked way better than expected! big and free and fun, really enjoyed this
-01: this looked super cool and played like shit tbh. just awkward. i had to use the trapdoor, and it was still just gross :(
-02: look, the laser thing is cool, but this is like the most boring implementation of it ever? was this more about the challenge or something? its just... back and forth and back and forth, no enemies, no interesting jumps, just literally walking around
-03: well named, felt like a pleasant throwback to early metanet. the bottom made me think of curvaceous with those launchpads
-04: surprisingly fun to navigate. i only died when the drones took me by surprise; not a fan of hiding those passageways. its nothing as gross as out of the blue, but its just a needless frustration. overall quite satisfying

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ah, i see. joy.

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 8:39 PM

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woeful glade yeah that's kinda how it felt lol. it was fine tho, not every map needs to be no...

yea i felt the same about 02

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fortunately, a sequel of this is much more exciting

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 8:41 PM

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well this is a fucking blast

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x2

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im starting with 162 seconds, holy shit

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 8:46 PM

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lmao

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im curious what you think about this one

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 8:52 PM

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E-03
-00: i didnt like it. looks cool, but the gold isnt fun to collect. oneway clips are neat i guess, but wasy to mess up and near the end. eh.
-01: very very good, slanty oneways work perfectly here. lots of fun running around in circles, or back and forth and back and forth, you can kinda do whatever and it works, i dig it
-02: its a cool idea i guess. pity the levels are all so empty and boring
-03: well it's easy, at least. it's different.
-04: took me three whole attempts, wow. i infinitely prefer dying. surprisngly tough, and every single bounce felt like a punch to the gut.

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 9:13 PM

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and again, one frame apart! wow!

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:23 PM

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woeful glade E-03 -00: i didnt like it. looks cool, but the gold isnt fun to collect. oneway ...

you dont know how much i am proud of 04

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lmfaooo

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surprised you didnt dislike 03

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 9:24 PM

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G++ affects ability to complete because it gives time. Its not surprising people go for all gold first run through.

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:24 PM

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thoght it wouldnt be your cup of tea

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 9:24 PM

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it was easy to move in, just kinda slow. there werent any threats. and you could see the oneways, so you could tell what you were standing on

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:24 PM

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heady mortar G++ affects ability to complete because it gives time. Its not surprising peopl...

it is surprising to me because i said getting it is a tough challenge

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 9:25 PM

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You cant change how people approach the game just because you say so

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:25 PM

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true, however i thought people would take the advice to their hearts

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 9:25 PM

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im terrified to see my attempt count on this one tbh

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:26 PM

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i did all my warnings i could do

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 9:28 PM

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number three. at least im getting faster?

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four

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what's up with this corner, anyway? half the time i hit it, my momentum completely disappears

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ohhh i think i keep hitting the upper oneway, tsk

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:44 PM

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most likely

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 9:48 PM

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oh wow, nowhere near as bad as i thought!

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:48 PM

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uh oh

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 9:48 PM

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Wow thats alot of attempts for such a long level

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:49 PM

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cant wait for the review

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NAILSnervous

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 9:49 PM

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the vast majority of the deaths are in the first chamber

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 9:49 PM

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some of auds has an anger issue <<incoming>>

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:49 PM

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blame the drones not the creator!!!

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please

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 9:50 PM

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blame raigan

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:50 PM

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oh yea that works too

heady mortar Aug 3, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Theres really only one person to blame

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And it should be obvious who that is

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:54 PM

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moleSweatZ

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 9:54 PM

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A-04
-00: i dont understand. its boring. i thought it was gonna be a drone race or something. looks cool i guess? nah, not really, but the levers are neat
-01: hard to go wrong with drones and bounceblocks. didnt love the low gold, but it wasnt hard, just uh... uh... what's the word. there werent many ways to get it, so it pushed you into a route. solid map.
-02: whooooa its so pretty! especially cuz i keep playing in green palettes. its about as fun as i expected, which is to say, uh, at least its easy
-03: weird. i feel like im missing something here. it was okay, i ran around an collected things. deathballs were weird. very inconsistent threat, not sure it worked that well
-04: welp lucky for you robot heaven is my favorite metanet map. im of two minds about this. i loved the inner chambers; i hated timing my exits with seekers AND an evil ninja on my ass. honestly, i think that ninja was the source of 80% of my troubles, and i'd like to try the map without to see if i like it better. second room was a little boring, just go in a circle, but the other two were nice and frantic. i might have changed out the drones for minidrones, to help with the visuals; there were a lot of things to keep an eye on. it was still a lot of fun, one of my favorites in the pack, but i think it oculd have been more fun and less awkward

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:55 PM

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woeful glade A-04 -00: i dont understand. its boring. i thought it was gonna be a drone race ...

00 was purely a chill level made for looks

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nothing else

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just something chill to appreciate art

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wow surprised about the liking of 04

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also 02 is my fav level of the whole tab

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thats right

thin mason Aug 3, 2024, 9:56 PM

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topaz gulch i did all my warnings i could do

If you really want to get the point across, make A-00 have some stupidly hard gold

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Otherwise the warning just sounds very generic

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 9:57 PM

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hmmm

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maybe next time

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... trold

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 10:06 PM

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congrats, i have a new least favorite map

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legitimately miserable holy sfucking shit

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did you actually enjoy this? what is the appealk here?

thin mason Aug 3, 2024, 10:09 PM

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What's so bad about it

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 10:09 PM

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i cant fucking move

thin mason Aug 3, 2024, 10:09 PM

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I liked it

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:09 PM

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💔

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i love how diving the maps are tho lol

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 10:09 PM

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just stutter stutter stutter stuck in a corner stuck in another corner

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yeah im not doing this

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:10 PM

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:(

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 10:10 PM

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and completion is trivial. if you dont want me to get the gold dont make completion so boring, idk

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:10 PM

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didnt know how to grasp the completion. where is it placed in episode

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 10:10 PM

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sorry, im being mean

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:11 PM

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its okay

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 10:14 PM

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its not really, you dont deserve that. im sure its a fine map, im just kinda shaking with anger right now lmao

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:16 PM

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nah i get it dont worry

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all good

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^^

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not all maps are fine, to be fair

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i did find some that feel like mistakes now

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but these might be somebodys faves

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and vice versa

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so i can understand if someone just doesnt like a map here. especially given how complex and gimmicky they are

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:17 PM

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with how experimental the design of your levels seem, i'd say it's expected not everyone will like every level

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:17 PM

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yea

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:17 PM

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doesn't mean the level doesn't deserve a place

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:18 PM

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i knew that when releasing the tab. i was stressed about it that the maps were too much and people will mostly not like it

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:18 PM

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I have a similar notion right now, but with difficulty instead of preference

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:18 PM

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uneven meteor doesn't mean the level doesn't deserve a place

true, i think even if you dislike a map for one aspect, you can like it for different aspect

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like wow the gameplay SUCKS but damnnn the art is so fine 😍

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:19 PM

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you can like every map for having this little guy called ninja

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:19 PM

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and dislike for having evil ninja???

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hehe

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get it

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:19 PM

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no that's more ninjas, so more good

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:19 PM

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but theyre EVIL...

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:19 PM

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scientifically confirmed information

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they're just you

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:19 PM

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they do evil stuff

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:19 PM

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that means you're evil

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:19 PM

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they rob

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they commit tax fraud

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etc

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:20 PM

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litearlly that means you do that cause they just copy u 😭

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:20 PM

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i am contacting my lawyer as we speak

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:20 PM

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evil lawyer

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 10:22 PM

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B-04
-00: really cool and silly, i love it
-01: i find this unplayable
-02: oh my gosh so cute! the floorguards work so well, shifting around and stuff. wasn't super fun, but it did the job while being adorable, so
-03: kinda weird, i dunno. it's cool, but is it fun? eh.
-04: holy shit that's beautiful. looks amazing in so many different palettes. really fun too, nice and easy but satisfying jumps and falls

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time to take a break

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:23 PM

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:3

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you could say 01 is concerning

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:23 PM

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peeps seem to be more critical of custom tabs now, does this mean we can finally get custom tab tier list

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:23 PM

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oh god

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:23 PM

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S
A
B
Clever

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:23 PM

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Sclever

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you mean

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tab tier list would give too many heated conversations, i feel

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:25 PM

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could also be constructive

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:25 PM

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if given constructive feedback about ones choices, that is

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:25 PM

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or just to find out what people actually want in a custom tab

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:26 PM

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most likely levels

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:26 PM

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clever has levels

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:26 PM

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S+

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:26 PM

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great levels in fact 👍

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:26 PM

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unironically i like clever

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:27 PM

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me too

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:27 PM

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given how quick it was made

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it is good

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we had little to no experience basically lol

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:28 PM

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i don't know if its common knowledge but neometa was made in 1 week

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:28 PM

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thats why it sucks

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:28 PM

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(and then not released for half a year)

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:28 PM

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smh

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:28 PM

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you suck!

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:29 PM

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jk it is good

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from what ive seen schmole playing

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lol

uneven meteor Aug 3, 2024, 10:29 PM

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jk you're good

topaz gulch Aug 3, 2024, 10:29 PM

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the longer the tab takes to make, the worse it is

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... trold

woeful glade Aug 3, 2024, 10:29 PM

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oh that explains ctp

#DESTAB