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wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:39 AM

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Hello! I have started my SFV journey about a little over a month ago. This is not my first fighting game. I play GGST mostly (500 hours) but I would like to get myself used to SF before 6 comes out. I have gotten to UB to S but seem to have hit a wall a little bit. I am looking for a coach, mentor, or anyone really to play games with or watch VODs/Replays that can help me figure out things to to specifically focus on because I feel I am thinking about working on too many things at once and it really psyches me out. It would really help me to have just a check list of things or homework to practice so I can make my time in the lab useful to work on the things I am severely lacking in when it comes to SF.

I play Akuma and would really like to be at least be competent with the character.

I am on the East Coat. Please message me if you are interested!

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 2:17 PM

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Hey @wheat burrow I can help ya some

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 3:22 PM

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south raven Hey <@116002763472764929> I can help ya some

Id appreciate it!

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 3:29 PM

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wheat burrow Id appreciate it!

Would you rather have me watch some tapes, play some games, anything in particular?

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 3:37 PM

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south raven Would you rather have me watch some tapes, play some games, anything in particul...

Play games mostly

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 3:41 PM

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wheat burrow Play games mostly

Sick, I can run some in an hour or so if that works

buoyant trout Apr 22, 2023, 3:57 PM

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i play akuma i can play a couple if ur ready.

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 4:11 PM

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south raven Sick, I can run some in an hour or so if that works

Ill be open by 130

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 4:11 PM

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buoyant trout i play akuma i can play a couple if ur ready.

Ill be open 130

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 6:13 PM

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wheat burrow Ill be open by 130

Lol sorry I fell asleep

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How about now though

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 8:37 PM

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south raven Lol sorry I fell asleep

I just got done with yard work 💀

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 8:45 PM

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wheat burrow I just got done with yard work 💀

So what I'm hearing is that you're free 🤔 🧐

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:02 PM

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Yessss

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:16 PM

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wheat burrow Yessss

Yooo let's get it then

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:17 PM

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south raven Yooo let's get it then

Booting up my pc now

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:17 PM

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Swag

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Lemme see if I can find my phone while you boot lol

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yoo I found it

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So let me get an idea of where you are

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You're a silver Akuma right

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Who do you play in GG?

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:30 PM

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south raven You're a silver Akuma right

Bronze silver

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Im online

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:30 PM

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south raven Who do you play in GG?

Ky

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:30 PM

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🤢

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Gear is fun because I can say 🤢 to literally any character except my main and I'd be totally justified

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In SF I could be like "🤢 I hate Necalli so much" but I'd be lying and I know it

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Lol that rolled back to a block but then you got hit by the frame trap

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That was funny

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What floor are ya

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:35 PM

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south raven What floor are ya

Celestial

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:35 PM

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Cool

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Darn I'm surprised that actually punished

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:37 PM

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The slowness of SF can REALLY turn me off

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My brain just likes anime games

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:37 PM

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Yeah GG was designed so hard to make you always move forward

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But in SF doing nothing is a good idea a lot of the time

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Nice

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:41 PM

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The thing that entices with 6 is drive rush cause i see it as RC in a way

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:43 PM

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That's interesting

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Since I see VTC as way more like RC

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:45 PM

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Dps i get in gg just dont come out in sf man lmfao

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:45 PM

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philjamenson cancel into CA challenge [impossible]

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:45 PM

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And then i just want to turn gg on lol

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:45 PM

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There's like a timing thing between games that feels really uncomfortable to learn

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When I started playing Tekken it sucked at first because the timing for button vs motion is a little different

buoyant trout Apr 22, 2023, 9:46 PM

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ngl i want to learn gg to understand this, cause that game makes no sense to me 😛

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:46 PM

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So I'd think qcf 1 that's easy but I wouldn't get it a lot of the time

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That move is crazy

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It's an overhead

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-4 on block

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Goes through fireballs

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:49 PM

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Like how do people wake up DP

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Gg ez

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This fame

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Game

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Never comes out

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:49 PM

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Haha I can't get it at all in GG

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It feels so much harder

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Nice

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 9:55 PM

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I cant man lmfao

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I want to wake up DP but i do not understand the timing

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 9:55 PM

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Try just waking up light dp

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Mash it out like a madman next time yoiu get knocked dowwn

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It's weird because your reversal buttons and stuff all seem fine

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And the timing is the same

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Just with the motion before the button

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Oh lemme make sure my windows are closed rq

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So you knew I was gonna say this

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But I think you're trying to move in too much

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This game is more committal in general

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:05 PM

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Well i feel i cant sit back here while poison whips me from full screen

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And jumps my fireballs

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I cant jump it

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Like i really fewl like sitting here is not the move

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:10 PM

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So I mean you're right, right

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That's true

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But you're doing it predictably

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So I can just wait and punish the attempt

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:10 PM

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I have zero clue how to approach her with my stubby buttons

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No clue

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Just have to just sit there and hold space

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:12 PM

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You're gonna need to spend some life to get in sometimes

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And that sucks as Akuma

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:12 PM

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Im akuma

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Lmfaooo

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:13 PM

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But every time I throw a c.hp, you jump like as one of your next two actions

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Let's chat for a sec

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:13 PM

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Is that even whiff punishable

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:13 PM

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You don't have to whiff punish it either

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It's -11 on block

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I know you can't punish

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:13 PM

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Not whiff my bad

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:13 PM

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But you have a lot of time to move in

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If you're far away, you can dash and block again and I just have to let you take the space

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:14 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-guilty-gear-strive-ky-kiske-stun-dipper-gif-26173446

Tenor

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:14 PM

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south raven If you're far away, you can dash and block again and I just have to let you take...

Copy

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Poison is really good when you're far away

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And she's good when you're close

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But there's like a middle range there where she doesn't have much

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That's kinda the goal

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Idk if i wanna play mid range with my character here

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I could be wrong

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:15 PM

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I can trade with your fireballs but not as a reaction when you're close

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Your character might want to, might not want to, but you still have to play around her options

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Laura loves being close to her opponent as much as she can

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She's gotta run from Gief a little

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:17 PM

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Laura was honestly my next pick of character

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:17 PM

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You also haven't used rfb at all, have you? 🤔

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:18 PM

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Wth is rfb

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Red fireball?

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:18 PM

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Yeah

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:18 PM

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I have

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:18 PM

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the shakunetsu

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Oh yeah you were using it a little

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But you stopped

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:18 PM

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I’ve used it in Oki a couple times

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:18 PM

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Ah yeah that too

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:18 PM

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Yeah I just get jumped

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Cause im too predictable

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:19 PM

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With the red ones you can just react to the slower ones

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But if you throw further away it's harder for someone to jump in on you

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Or Akumas like to use it in pressure

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:20 PM

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Ahhh ok

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:22 PM

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I think you should also try to mix up your pressure more

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Throw me more

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Just walk up and throw me sometimes

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c.mp > walk > throw

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:23 PM

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Yeah i have a bad habit of just thinking nothing I do works lol

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Because in bronze silver absolutely everyone mashes

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So i just need to learn more frame traps

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:23 PM

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Yeah it's good to play some people who won't

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:24 PM

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Idk

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:24 PM

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So you stop autopiloting things

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:24 PM

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The more I feel I play “real” street fighter

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The worse I do

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Cause everyone is so random and I just need to adjust to them being random

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:24 PM

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What is "real" street fighter

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:24 PM

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I should say higher level street fighter

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Like walking around establishing space and whatnot

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Its weird to describe

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:25 PM

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Yeah you have to establish which options you can and can't use with your opponent before that game develops

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Some people will just let you of course

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But especially in the lower ranks people are just gonna do what they do

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And they either stop or die trying

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Once you punish it I mean

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:26 PM

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The amount of ryu and kens that just throw DPs at me at random throw me so off

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But its whatever

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Just have to play better

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:27 PM

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On the bright side, it's great practice for combos and stuff when you're in those ranks haha

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This set I want you to try to wake up dp every time you get knocked down

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Idc which dp

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You're doing it way too late

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I think you're starting the input when you're supposed to be hitting the button

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:29 PM

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EARLIER? Damn lol

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:30 PM

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Waaay earlier haha

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I can see you walk befoire it comes out

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That second one was real

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:30 PM

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WTFFFF

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:30 PM

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You got that one perfect

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:30 PM

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THATS SO EARLY

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:33 PM

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Keep trying it

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I'll only punish you if you're wrong

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Lol I forgot I had VT2 and got so confused

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:41 PM

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Im really at a loss what to do against any other character I feel I cant move in on

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Im loss

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Lost

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:46 PM

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That game was it

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That was what you're supposed to be doing when you can't move in

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It's hard as balls

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That's the "real" SF you were talking about

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:46 PM

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Just getting whiff punished by st.lk?

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I think was the move

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And i was lost

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:46 PM

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Haha yeah that's what I did at the end there

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I mean like the neutral game in general

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I was trying to give you like a small life lead to see what you'd do with it

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That second round was a neat example because like

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You had one at the beginning of the round and tried to move in and lost it

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But at the end, when you had it and were more patient, you won

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What did you think of that set

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 10:53 PM

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I hate 900 life and stun against alex

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 10:58 PM

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Lmaoo

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🤔 what about that one

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 11:02 PM

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Idk what to really say

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Losing to the same stuff

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Just a different character

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 11:02 PM

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See the reason I ask

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I was trying to change who I was playing to get you through the different ranges

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Poison wants to keep you far away, Juri wants to keep you kinda in the middle, Alex/Cammy want to be close

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Since we were talking about trying to get in

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Is your goal to rank up

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Or are you just trying to get better in general

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Oh wait lemme get some water

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 11:04 PM

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Idrc about rank

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Seeing as sf6 is only roughly a month away

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 11:08 PM

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See the reason I ask is that the thing that you're losing to when we're playing now won't really help you in ranked

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Since I'm kinda forcing you to sit down and play neutral with me

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I think you have a good idea of your kit and what you want to do with it

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You have meaties, you have anti airs, you know a couple pokes

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I think you should try switching things up a little

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Learn some more options

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 11:11 PM

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Yeah i need to learn the character a bit more

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 11:11 PM

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Yeah you're not doing anything outrageous where I could just tell you exactly what to knock off

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I can do one more chief

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Then I've gotta get some chow

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I can keep chatting after tho

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Anyone you want me to play

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Ggs boss!

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 11:20 PM

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I gotta play in a tourney in about twn minutes so imma unwind a bkt before then

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GGs

south raven Apr 22, 2023, 11:20 PM

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I gotchu boss

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Hit me up if you wanna talk or play some more any other time

wheat burrow Apr 22, 2023, 11:25 PM

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Word, i got you

#First serious Street Fighter game and looking for some help.