SV OU Rates

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[queen saddle]

before anything

why is weavile

scary face

[limber spear]

prollly they types sf instead of sd and then clicked enter without double checking

[tender oracle]

https://pokepast.es/6bc009177aa50f43
who could i switch with jirachi
i would like to have a tanky pivot so i can reset walking wakes specs but im open anything

[final relic]

av hatt doesnt really work long term to keep hazards off esp. if the other removal doesnt have longevity either

this also looks a little slow once moth uses its booster

ice shard is like okay prio but it shouldnt be the only one you have

[gritty lake]

any fixes?

[final relic]

you break past corv with relative ease already

so just use ekiller

👍

kinda annoying to drop that half a fairy resist but it seems workable still

[worldly copper]

The meta ain't ready for ts

https://pokepast.es/f3bb4010a13d2fb1

[final relic]

you got no fairy resist

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/ef110776dede2a06

[worldly copper]

I was thinking of replacing Scream Tail with like Glalarian Slowking or somthing

[final relic]

cloak is interesting

i dont hate it though

[queen saddle]

is Trevanant so ass you need shadow claw even with poltergeist

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/76f22cd9f7a382c9

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

This team has a lot of random mons here like a Cb zama with no pivots or proper hazard support & defensive iron treads

[chilly tundra]

Yeah I’m gonna scrap this. I ain’t good at offense teams

[nocturne sable]

I see the vision with hazards deo+tspikes whirlwind moth

You can lead on with that

[chilly tundra]

Maybe

Idrk how to go from there

[final relic]

U can keep treads, deo, moth probably but zama should be idef ideally

treads should be max speed though

probably want a plot ghold in there to deny removal since corv is pretty free switchin on most of these mons

[chilly tundra]

Max speed or Bhold Ghold?

[final relic]

probably wanna be fast here

[chilly tundra]

Metal coat…?

[final relic]

hmm

yeah that could work

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/35f5845600f2cbd1

[final relic]

kinda cinderace weak though im realizing

[chilly tundra]

I made this. I’m using Iron Jug for a very fast taunter to help beat stall/bulky balance

[final relic]

ok yeah good shout probably want a strong knock user

thats also fast enough to deal w/ace in some way

try that out

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/0d69005b14b319c8 this is what I came up with

Lowkey though I kinda changed the entire team so it might not be ideal to what you want

[worldly copper]

Oh I forgot to change that my bad. The orginal team had a mon with knock off on it so I added shadow claw incase the opposing mon was knocked off

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/a2e086918a65f474

Also cooked this

This any decent?

[nocturne sable]

Btw for this I like modest metal coat to maximize damage with MIR.

Also kinda hate balloon treads but given you have no real ground immune I can understand that.

Lowkey I would just say greed with 4 support deoxys(taunt double hazards recover/pain split/teleport)

then make treads boots, make Ghold air balloon Twave and replace iron jugulus for knock off sd iron valiant.

[nocturne sable]

This looks like basic volt turn

You want trick over flower trick on meow to play around set up sweepers like dnite gambit.

You can honestly just run offensive nasty plot pech with covert cloak to 1v1 garg.

[swift pumice]

https://pokepast.es/020864fc052e10a3

Nevermind it sucks I lost 200 elo

[queen saddle]

Doesnt Deo get recover?

[chilly tundra]

Ok

Thanks

[nocturne sable]

Yea but pain split can still be used because it chips

[torn scroll]

https://pokepast.es/b715a415ae7c34e2

3rd attempt of trying to make a Team with Raging Bolt using a new batch of Pokémon to build this team.

[queen saddle]

Ohh, alr
Btw, won’t be rating bc Im sick and whenever I think hardly my head hurts bad
But I’ll be watching and pointing out slight errors for anyone that sends a team

[queen saddle]

You have no rocks and imo this should be like a bulky offense

Like I think Tornt can be replaced for a defensive bird

Corvi since u got no steel

Zap could work tho

Tusk should be offensive utility

[amber terrace]

https://pokepast.es/15c64766cd22a53b

This is my LO Darkrai + AV Primarina Balance team

I would greatly appreciate any sort of feedback. And whether or not this team is good.

[nocturne sable]

Okay so woger super 6/0es this team

Cm raging bolt offense is fine. Though you’d definitely want a lead rocker.

https://pokepast.es/56cae39c047b3975 I prefer something like this.

Tera ground tornadus-therain improves your MU into raging bolt and muscles through most of torns usual checks bar ting Lu(ting Lu gets super chipped by bleakwind anyway). It’s nice because it also snipes glowking which can be annoying for torn zama and bolt as well. You also resist stealth rock with Tera ground.

I replaced tusk for treads and made iron treads speed booster 4 attacks here because I think you need that additional extra immediate speed control and raging bolt check. Megahorn is mainly for Woger and you don’t really need knock here.

Tera ghost raging bolt to 1v1 stuff like zama mainly, it’s also nice into non shadow ball Blissey and other stuff.

Zama I just made substitute since it would make more sense with heavy slam.

Prim changed to torrent because you don’t really need double water move with liquid voice. Just use the psychic typing to snipes poisons like pex or wtv.

Lastly, I replaced cinderace here for lead rocks deo because you kinda need a rocker here. Knock is fine into Ghold and superpower+psycho boost can still snipe a lot. Eject button will help you with pivoting.

Team has no natural Tspikes resist but you literally have deo to snipe glimm leads to its wtv

You also have Tera ground torn to snipe glimm

And prim can Tera poison as well

In emergency cases if Tspikes become a real problem

Lowkey you can also just go regular crunch sub iron defense body press zama or max speed roar zama. Although I would definitely keep Tera fire.

@torn scroll ^

[torn scroll]

Alrighty seems very interesting

[sacred delta]

https://pokepast.es/a4cff1524b8045f3 quick voltturn team i threw together, found some decent success with. main things i noticed is breaking gliscor is rough, the only thing that reliably kills it is +2 pon, and im not entirely sure about hatt on the team, and its set. needed a special wall, maybe healing wish would work better or smth like glowking which can pivot out better.

also on a team that switches so much not a fan of having hatt as my only hazard control, dont know what to change tho

[queen saddle]

https://pokepast.es/211b474f3f8705f1
Metagross fell off this generation, and I think I found a way to make it pretty revalent, instead of being outclassed by Iron Crown.
Metagross has 2 really good tools, ice punch and knock off, over Crown
Ice punch with 172 adamant OHKOS Lando-T, even defensive, and KOES Gliscor after it being chipped to around the 70-80's. With 204 speed, you outspeed defensive Gliscor, and with psychic noise, all the chip on Corviknight and friends stay.
With clear body, its stats won't be dropped by Pecharunt, and Pech takes 41% min from uninvested and a - nature into sp atk by psychic noise.
If I build around this well, this can break stall and bulky offense, which is so cool to think about. I've considered an air balloon set, and keeping heavy slam on Metagross or changing it so he becomes my rocker, think Tusk is better at this though.
Thoughts?

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Tbh I don’t think metagross and iron crown are even remotely the same outside of their typing. Movepools are entirely different and both are on different sides of the attacking spectrum.

Metagross also has priority(bullet punch) stealth rocks, earthquake, etc. you can literally run an AV set with meta and it will be equally as effective.

And you have clear body to avoid intimidate from Lando

[feral moat]

https://pokepast.es/14eac51ab3232f28

my team is good?

[queen saddle]

Oh, alright
Well, how does the team look?
I found AV Prim to be the best member in the last slot

Over Woger

Had lots of annoying defensive problems and whatnot, and Prim’s typing with fairy and water just helped a lot

[inner terrace]

your team doesnt make a lotta sense ngl

booster moth isnt good with corv

neither is this val set

zama over val is generally better and im not big on treads

gking tusk is good here

+1 breaker

[nocturne sable]

You honestly don’t need to change the 6 , however a few things.

Use this metagross to its potential. Psychic noise knock off is neat tech for defensive stuff like corv yea, however you can make this AV so you can switch into mons like kyurem & enam for example. Also use bullet punch for the priority which could be useful when 1v1ing kyurem and revenge killing other stuff like Val enam etc.

Make woger spikes here to maximize hazard stacking. You can go spikes ivy taunt knock off here.

Make Mandi it toxic>u-turn. Make it Tera fairy to help into zama.

Make tusk Tera ghost for additional spin blocking.

https://pokepast.es/689d503ac352b21e

[upbeat narwhal]

Why is ogerpons set like that

[nocturne sable]

Spikes to set hazards

Taunt to prevent healing from stuff like pecharunt after switching in

And preventing hazards as well

[nocturne sable]

Defensive Glowking is way better here than pecharunt. Would actually give you a real special wall/special check to most stuff. Run psychic noise sludge bomb flamethrower chilly reception.

You want cinderace on structures like these. Trailblaze woger seems odd here as it fits on more HO/set up spam teams with screens support. You’re better off with cinderace which improves your hazard control.

Last slot is interesting. I think bolt scizor ace Lando glowking is already a solid core. I think last slot you definitely want something that threatens gholdengo. A choice scarf dark type like Hamurott, darkrai or meowscarada can work here. I can even see Hoopa and Zarude working here. I know I said Trailblaze woger wants HO but zarude is kinda different because it’s bulkier and ofc it has that dark typing which makes a difference. You can run bulk up knock off Trailblaze synthesis with Tera poison for ival.

Although zarude is nice. You most likely go with the choice scarf dark type with trick like a rai or meow

So you don’t lose into set up

https://pokepast.es/2e8a6dd7fdeaba7a @sacred delta something like this

[nocturne sable]

I’m sorry for skipping this.

AV Prim+rai is a very standard offense trading core so that’s fine.

However the bottom 4 seems dissorganized to me. Defensive Lando+random defensive AV treads on the same team looks super overkill.

Although I will definitely keep some stuff. I like how you made glowking physically defensive which I agree it. Although I would make it shuca berry since your tusk Mu doesn’t seem the best. Tera ice can be nice for surviving kyurem & buffing your defense with snowstorm.

I changed kingambit here for dragonite. This is because it improves your MU into woger and still gives you that strong priority in espeed. I made it silk scarf for stronger speeds especially with Tera normal.

Then I changed Lando and treads for heatran and great tusk. Heatran helps fill the roll of the special check which glowking has to give up, also provides stealth rock support so tusk can run close combat with rapid spin. Tera fighting because close combat is really spammable especially into neutral checks like corv and mola. Could also look at stone edge incase Zapdos and moltres become annoying.

Lastly, for darkrai why not just run black glasses with knock sucker now thinking about it. You don’t really need that fighting coverage now since you have Tera fighting tusk and you don’t need Tera poison sludge bomb since you have heatran, glowking & Primarina to trade into fairies. Knock off and sucker punch offer more utility with knock off removing boots to force hazard chip and sucker punch giving you clutch priority and chip into stuff like pult and Deoxys speed, the former which you can’t touch with dnite.

So unfortunately no life orb rai+av prim but hey at least it’s still rai+prim!

https://pokepast.es/9975fb867ba1495b

[gritty lake]

It's cool for fucking over pech and garg

[tepid hazel]

https://pokepast.es/7a403125e9db41ca

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tepid hazel]

just making sure i didnt forget anything dumb

i like it so far

would hatte be better/ idrk

[gritty lake]

Max defense enam might be better

[tepid hazel]

ah, thanks 😄

[tepid hazel]

like all out defense no modest?

just. making sure what u mean

i wanna test that out

(am i about to read a classic quaqrash summary lol)

[nocturne sable]

Nah you want play rough on woger on structures like these. You also want to be adamant to maximize damage since you have Trailblaze to boost speed.

Not a big fan on bulky ceru here, LO Tera ghost is one of cerus best sets. I like bulk up ceru more on veil screens kinda, you want to be fast paced with dual screens.

Glimmora is also like the preferred hazard control option on screens since you would want like Bu tusk with better coverage options or BU

Idk this feels kinda weird looks like you just took from different variants and made them kinda unoptimal…

Like I feel like most of the mons you have here would appreciate veil more than dual screens

[tepid hazel]

okay, fair enough. i will do that

thanks for the ratings though

[tepid hazel]

oh, i see 🤔

should i go veil then or

is the question

anyways lemme go do that and test

i was about to say i wasnt rly clicking psycho boost much but yeah

[tepid hazel]

sooooooooo
play rough ada woger
lorb ceru
tusk-> meteorr beam or lead?
ninetales alola instead u say?

? 🤔

[nocturne sable]

No I said Ninetales alola if your doing the bulk up ceruledge route type stuff

[tepid hazel]

oh, okay. but for glim?

thats gtk

[nocturne sable]

As in the slow pace set up sweepers

Glimm on screens usually runs meteor beam yea

[tepid hazel]

i wanna test ice beam on deo s i wanted to click ice beam so many times

psycho boost is not it man.

how much special attack evs do u want on ice beam

hm, i have no idea where to check.

[lean crypt]

https://pokepast.es/36a72491ae7fdd44

QQval rain attempt that’s been rotting in my boxes. No rush on the rating, team’s ahh🗿

[tepid hazel]

last question about the ice beam one, can i just run it raw without investment

[tepid hazel]

i mean i can already see alot of adjustments here just at looking at it.

i mean im doing my best to just keep the quaquaval but i rly dont see it sweeping without ice spinner

wait

[tepid hazel]

https://pokepast.es/31358d97504099ab i like this

latios->raging bolt with weather ball thunder tclap

dondozo->barrakewsda abuses rain better

clefable->hatterene for hazards and checks kyurem

for main changes

idrk maybe i can do better, id usually test first

is qua even viable on rain i have no idea

all i know is the vest set on it

[nocturne sable]

Ice beam is a real move yea, although ii would just greed with 4 support.

https://pokepast.es/84b00fc1367853c3 something like this, i made enam-Therain into enam incarcerate because I felt like enam t was just too slow.

[lean crypt]

All ik is qqval feels like it’s just one step away from being really dangerous, I wanted to try it on a rain team

[tepid hazel]

i see! thanks!

[tepid hazel]

oh u axed gambit for zama, fair enough. ... i think i slap gambit too much on teams myself ngl

lmfao, thanks for the rating

OOH

teleport? @nocturne sable i didnt know deoxys elarns teleport wtf

awesome!

[tepid hazel]

well uh

[nocturne sable]

I mean tbf gambit is gambit and will always fit on teams. I basically just used the already existing vert sample but made a few tweaks like enam>goltres , Trailblaze>horn leech on woger and teleport>boost on deo

[tepid hazel]

ohhhhhhhh, i see! i had no idea wtf 😂

fine by me!

ill test gambit again if i dont like zama

i probably will like this though

https://pokepast.es/76548d2c4b2bfbc8 dumbass team

[south tusk]

https://pokepast.es/173288d9b71767dc
anyone have advice for my team? I'm pretty new to teambuilding and just got into showdown very recently as well so i might not know a lot of stuf

[tepid hazel]

safety googles dragapult is the only thing i wanna make work lol

[tepid hazel]

so u wanna make cresselia offense?

[south tusk]

both, special pivot + set up sweeper

[tepid hazel]

well for one i think tera steel is better not poison..

let me check ur entire team to be sure tho

[south tusk]

tera poison was actually a reccomendation i got from here

[tepid hazel]

oh damn, why did they say tera poison?

🤔

[tepid hazel]

just think steel can be better

[tepid hazel]

ah, i see... that is true.

i dont rly use stored power guys so theyre prob right

oh my friend recommended it omg 😂

[south tusk]

oh W

[tepid hazel]

i dont like corviknight here for shore

im just curious wth covert cloak is for again

eh

im attempting to remember why u run it

[south tusk]

yeah corv has felt kind of off but i like the defensive pivot

[tepid hazel]

okay so keep corv remove wellspring

i read the messages above

wait

[south tusk]

i actually kinda like having wellspring now
what's wrong with him rn

i think if i wanted to change smth it'd be corv into someone who fits better but still covers defensive pivot role

[lean crypt]

The humble excadrill:

[south tusk]

💔

steel would get railed anyway man

[tepid hazel]

uh i made a team without wellspring 💀 guess im adding it back lmfao

oh the qua is back. think hed like the quaquaval rain HAHAHHAAHA (not the team imade jus the concept lol)

[south tusk]

is the superior qua- pokemon

[lean crypt]

Who doesn’t love quaquaval rain 🗿

[tepid hazel]

hahahaahaha

a crap wait my cresselia team got fucked since i thought he wanted woger gone lol

[south tusk]

oops ;-;

i think woger is fine now

[tepid hazel]

yeah its a mess im just refreshing and starting from scratch

[south tusk]

unless there's a reason he should be booted now

do you have any general suggestions for corv replacements

[tepid hazel]

hm? its fine. just uh

idk, its a bit wack imo but its like not bad per say... i just dont rly use stored power mons in general so honestly no idea

[south tusk]

wait do you think zapdos could be a good replacement

[tepid hazel]

no idea bro i just wait 😭

yknow what ill just let quaqrash do his job im rating someone else rn too @south tusk sorry

lol

[south tusk]

dats alr lol

[nocturne sable]

My favourite duck pokemon line! I actually like the Quaquaval set. The only problem is the rest of your team doesn’t really fit a rain structure.

Pelliper(rain setter)+Quaquaval obvious starter point.

Iron treads is kinda one of the mainly mandatory picks of rain so you don’t lose to raging bolt. Speed booster can work but you can also look at like an spdef lefties with rocks spin eq volt switch for pivoting.

Now for latios we can lowkey do something like Tera water weather ball with like choice specs or something. Although I think there are better weather ball abusers though like raging bolt, kyurem, etc. weather ball latios would fit more on Sun because it snipes more checks like Ghold corv etc.

Lastly for dondozo and clefable I would straight up dump them from the team, neither really benefit your team. Instead you can maybe use an eject button hatterene or Toxapex to help you pivot around. I like defensive pex here as it can help with the mu into woger and clear up Tspikes while also being consistently healthy thanks to regenerator, same time Hatt offers healing wish support which can be ideal for the team.

You can also use an additional rain abuser. Thinking basculegion can work here. Mainly the female one because the male is more of a Tera hog unfortunately.

https://pokepast.es/2f707f6dff75a29f something like this

[lean crypt]

I’m gonna miss the eject button latios. Draco Meteor nuke-n-switch was great to get the ball rolling. Could be a free moxie, free swords dance on switch-in, or straight up a mon. Downside was obviously intimidate mons could force me to swap before my move comes out—then I’m down an item and tempo. Hinging my pivot on that wasn’t great.

But, raging bolt is definitely built better for this team. And honestly, eject button nuke-n-swap is probably better with a slow swap from R-bolt rather than Latios.

[amber terrace]

thank you so so much man i really appreciate ittttt, maybe you dont hear this enough but we all thank you for your hard work as a helperrrr 🙇‍♂️ 🙇‍♂️

[quartz lark]

Manaphy Rain
https://pokepast.es/790ee5d2bea8460e

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

IMO I like 4 attacks bolt here with thunderclap for priority.

Team is kinda woger weak imo.

Manaphy can be a Tera grass tailglow surf energy ball rest set.

I would maybe try overqwil>>basculegion here

Then make Enamorus eject button hatt.

[cedar jay]

Anybody know any good iron crown teams

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/30b7348d0e2084a9 something like this kinda

[regal ginkgo]

OverUsed (Gen 9)

• Pokemon Showdown! room
• Discord
• Metagame discussion thread
• Role compendium
• Speed tiers
• Viability rankings
• Sample teams

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[nocturne sable]

@cedar jay

You will probably find an iron crown team in the samples section

[quartz lark]

Going with this

[stray osprey]

randomly put together this team its probably ass: https://pokepast.es/9094d4d2bf664a5c

[cursive zephyr]

Thoughts on this meow balance?

https://pokepast.es/ca45cfe6c8ce87fa

[wooden linden]

Hey. Looked it over and changed it up a bit
https://pokepast.es/024df1080d27a057
Moth doesnt really work well here since it really outpaces a mainly balance centered team. So i decided to use glowking for both a more reliable kyu check and pivot. Additionally, av alo is here instead of wish since you're able to take on gholdengo and dragapult much more safely. If theres a need for extra speed control for you, i would suggest scarf meow + specs bolt. Have fun

[wooden linden]

Hey. Checked this team and revamped it a little
https://pokepast.es/7e6bf6488ffa3b3f

I actually did like the original team but imo the lack of a dark type really made the team a little worse off

I opted for a hatterene + ace double hazard control core as it lets the rest be more flexible with items

Gambit over scizor here both as a kyu check but also sweeper priority and beats other gambit with low kick

Changed some sets to be able to either handle fairies, have immediate power, have bulk, or reliable recovery

[south tusk]

https://pokepast.es/173288d9b71767dc
would zapdos be a good corv replacement here + any other suggestions? I’m pretty new to teambuilding

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wooden linden]

Hey. Looked it over and revamped it a bit
https://pokepast.es/00b19bb96d8653c5

Cresselia isnt essential here as its pretty slow and passive, so i added cb pult as a pivot and firepower

I swapped tusk out for treads as the team is pretty scared of fairies as a whole. Spdef treads is able to do that and be a solid bolt check

After that, zapdos was added over corv since i figured thata flyer that can directly hurt zama and such would be nice

[south tusk]

Thanks for the help 🙏

Cress has won me a ton of games and i love cress so i’ll probably keep cress

With cress also asking as a special wall if i ran treads could i run a more physical defense spread?

For zapdos, can i ask why tera grass

Also would heatwave over hurricane be an option?

[wooden linden]

Tera grass zapdos for wellspring mainly

Also dont run physical defense treads

If you really needed cress then go max atk max speed treads

Hurricane always for zamazenta tusk wellspring. Heatwave isnt needed

[south tusk]

Alr ill try it

Hurricane miss chance kinda scary but eh

[cursive zephyr]

Oh I was trying to center the team around Meow and Moth breaking core bc I was writing meow’s checks and thought they paired well together

I rmbr trying AV g-king earlier and it kept blocking pacing so chilly doesn’t sound bad

Alo kind of compresses a lot of what g-king does outside of the team being kyreum fodder

[rough lark]

Help i was told this is buns what do i fix

[gritty lake]

!pokepaste

[regal ginkgo]

This command has been removed. Please use !psteams or !shareteam.

[rough lark]

Ok i clicked it

What now

[gritty lake]

Send the link here

[rough lark]

Ok

Https://pokepast.es/006c5f254cbfe84b

Um what was the point of that

[limber spear]

sash glim feels weird here imo

same for like some evs and idk if sd scor is best here

[rough lark]

What do i change then

Like what do i replace it with

[limber spear]

uh hazard scor and then a sturdier removal like tusk or treads over glim

corv prolly can be another pon check

i don’t think it’s that good for h stack

[rough lark]

Im ngl i started this game last night idk what half that means

💔✌️

[limber spear]

corv (the metal bird) is like weird as remova on h stack and as sole removal

so u need sturdier removal here

so that means the spinners which is great tusk and iron treads

[rough lark]

Ok ty for saying it in a way i can understand

What do i do about glimmora

[limber spear]

prolly hv to kick it

or

we go hyper offense

[rough lark]

Hyper offense is always fun to use

[limber spear]

which is agiloty sd offensive scor with prolly sd hamu?but that would need to kill corv

[rough lark]

By scor wdym

[limber spear]

prolly also go np dengo for stal mu

[limber spear]

agility sword dance set

[rough lark]

On what

Im lost in the sauce here

[limber spear]

Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 244 HP / 20 Atk / 36 Def / 112 SpD / 96 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Swords Dance
• Facade
• Earthquake
• Agility

the evs and natures r kinda weird 😭

(not the scor set but like those glim and zama

[rough lark]

Zama i copied from a sample team and glim was from lika a 3 year old post

[limber spear]

oh imma trust wtv that attack evs will do then prolly hits some bench mark but like no mortal spin and 4- spa on glim is 🤔 🤔

Glimmora @ Focus Sash
Ability: Toxic Debris
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ghost
Timid Nature

• Stealth Rock
• Mortal Spin
• Power Gem
• Earth Power
  i think there’s also like phy def or defensive spreads as well

[rough lark]

I was told i shouldnt use glimmora since sammurot had ceaseless edge

Though some people disagreed with the person who said it

[limber spear]

oh yeah that’s true

easier way is prolly uh throw away glim for like treads

[rough lark]

Then id use treads for what? Removing hazards?

[limber spear]

lead

sets hazards while being able to remove it

[rough lark]

So wouldnt that mean id still have two hazard setters and wasnt treads or tusk meant to replace corvi

Im so confused

[limber spear]

so should be like treads scor dengo hamu zama

+1

[rough lark]

So treads is iron treads, scor is gliscor, dengo is gholdengo , zama is zamazenta, whats hamu

[limber spear]

samurott

[rough lark]

Ohh

Alr

[limber spear]

prolly go smth fast for last

[rough lark]

Just for like fast damage?

To like revenge kill or smth

[limber spear]

prolly yeah

[rough lark]

Btw for this set gholdengo would just be for damage right

[rough lark]

Mabye scizor or speed deoxys?

Those are fast and scizor has bullet punch with technician which i rlly like to use

[regal ginkgo]

OverUsed (Gen 9)

• Pokemon Showdown! room
• Discord
• Metagame discussion thread
• Role compendium
• Speed tiers
• Viability rankings
• Sample teams

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[gritty lake]

@rough lark get the samples

[rough lark]

Wdym

[knotty sundial]

the last link is sample teams

they're suggesting you try one of them out

[rough lark]

Oh

Ive used sample teams for uu but the reason i tried making my own first was because i never found any of them to look fun

Plus making teams is half the fun

[limber spear]

prolly go offensive ig but defensive doesn’t look bad too

[rough lark]

Yeah i thought so

[limber spear]

scizor is p meh ngl

[rough lark]

Yeah its not the greatest but he sure does look cool

What should i use instead

[limber spear]

uh idk just go deox then ig if u like it

[rough lark]

Never used it before but its got speed in the name and it was in the samples so sure

[rough lark]

Would this build work i just snatched offa sample

[limber spear]

this is a screens set

unless u want to go for screens

[rough lark]

Nope

This?

But id replace spikes for smth else

[knotty sundial]

it gets stealth rock

[rough lark]

Nah id use this for hazard

Im trynna use deoxys as a revenge killer

[knotty sundial]

there's a Smogon set for that

[limber spear]

u use the booster energy set

[limber spear]

go np prolly

[rough lark]

Wheres that

[rough lark]

And whats np

[limber spear]

it’s just much better to run sample atp

😭 😭

[limber spear]

nasty plot

[limber spear]

check smogon set which says lead in the title

[rough lark]

Oh alr

[rough lark]

Am i blind i still cant find it😭

[rough lark]

Wait is it this

[limber spear]

no

another one

[knotty sundial]

it is labeled Lead

[rough lark]

Oh the one that says lead

I found it

[knotty sundial]

and the item is booster energy

[rough lark]

This one right

[knotty sundial]

yes

[rough lark]

Tyy

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/d83c7fc8fc574277

@nocturne sable help pls

[wooden linden]

Buh

Lowkey do not need screens zama

Thinking id resto chesto if you want non lorb zama

Oh and doubt you need ceru if lucha is right there anyways so gseed ghold or some other wacky ghold sounds fine

Also that hatt is buns that shit died like 2 months ago

Gseed hatt is fine here

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/c7abb1be123419f2 getting fried by normalnite and stall(occasionally)

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[supple ginkgo]

https://pokepast.es/f7ee0c3740caeaa8 just a quick and dirty webs team i built that's kinda doing numbers for me

[tepid hazel]

i love how this is just zodiac webs but wellspring instead of raging bolt lol

[limber spear]

why is there is don quixote 🤔

[supple ginkgo]

whats zodiac webs

[tepid hazel]

team that climbed to top 3

[supple ginkgo]

looked it up and damn youre right

except i run ribombee over araquanid

[tepid hazel]

hahahahahhaha

[rugged fiber]

https://pokepast.es/4cbab19a5c58b261 w or l?

[stray osprey]

thank you!

[worldly copper]

idk what the last member would be

https://pokepast.es/7d95f29e141d688a

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[stoic nymph]

p2 would be solid as a special attacking tr seter

whyd u pick trev

and why do u have shadow claw

i would have like dbond or curse maybe

[knotty sundial]

doesn't hands want thunder punch or supercell slam over wild charge

[worldly copper]

favorite doodle ik it's buns

[stoic nymph]

wild charge is fine

also i would prolly run gleam over misty explosio

bc if ur gonna sack urself healing wish is gonna be better

like all the time

[worldly copper]

fair enough

on trev prolly change shadow claw to knock off or smth

[stoic nymph]

dbond

maybe wisp

or curse

just stuff that banded pult runs

maybe even sucker

[worldly copper]

So trev is one of those special occasions where you run supporting moves while banded

[knotty sundial]

this channel is only for sv ou

go to the vgc rates channel

[stoic nymph]

yea

just like pult

or ghold with scarf

[eager sparrow]

wrong channel sorry

[queen saddle]

knock and polter geegee

[worldly copper]

yes ik we are tuff

[queen saddle]

WE are compokémon ❤️‍🩹

[worldly copper]

yes twin 🥹

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/7f0d9d3e4750d087

How’s this?

Massive Zama weakness

https://pokepast.es/def3e7dcdd61da96

I think this is actually better

[humble elk]

https://pokepast.es/d97c5d7311333540

first team in a while

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/51872e080f6da994

[supple ginkgo]

https://pokepast.es/f7ee0c3740caeaa8 bump cause i didnt get any input ^^;

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[gaunt forum]

https://pokepast.es/09bcf523b9bae4e3

[queen saddle]

I quit that’s way too many teams to rate while I’m sick

I quit

💔

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/e24192827865634a

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[quartz lark]

Scarf Rai (Speed) >> Lefties Rai (Pulse, Trick, Beam, Bomb)
Tera Grass Tres (Woger) >> Tera Fairy Tres
Knock Off Tusk (Removal) >> Spinner Tusk

[quartz lark]

Tusk (Compress) >> TreadsAce (SR, Spinner, Head, Rapid)
Utility Torn (Woger) >> LO Torn (Knock, Turn, Bleak, Wave)

[quartz lark]

Prob fine

[limber spear]

no skill swap on bee is weird tho no?

non tera dark glasses gambit

and shouldne 2a sd ival run spirit+knock instead of cc(idk on this

4 evs on moth 🤔

[amber terrace]

Dark Spam Offensive Hazard Stack
https://pokepast.es/df9efbac3101870f
lmk what yall thinkk

[supple ginkgo]

oh wtf i sent an old paste LOL

bee has skillswap now, i put moth EVs on spdef for shits and giggles

gambit ghost is to fuck over CC mons but if dark is better i am not opposed to going all in on attack

[limber spear]

glasses should be with tera dark

other teras like fairy ghost flying r better with like lefties ballon etc

[quartz lark]

Zamazenta (Compress) >> PechLando

[mortal saffron]

https://pokepast.es/d4a647f9e329a4b4

pretty standard sets beside tbolt and vwave on iron val

[chilly tundra]

Boots or AV?

[quartz lark]

Either is fine

[chilly tundra]

What should the last Mon be? Since we compressed treads and ace for a tusk

I have one open slot

[chilly tundra]

Maybe NP Pecharunt for the zama matchup?

I actually think defensive pech is better

[quartz lark]

For the last re-assess threats and figure out what singular mon grants the best coverage

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/71e408ba40fc62ea

Also cooked this up

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[chilly tundra]

Zamazenta still seems a little scary. HO also looks scary

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/71adce6ccc625196

[quartz lark]

Boots Val (Consistency) >> Booster Val

[nocturne sable]

Comp looks standard tbf

You want psyshock on one of Ghold or Rai for stall match up.

Honestly though I like Tera dragon specs bolt here better than boots.

Replace gholdengo here for chilly glowking here. Moveset can be psyshock sludge bomb toxic.

Make rai trick scarf here. Trick Twave Ice beam dark pulse can work here. Tera ghost can maybe work here for espeed dnite.

With specs bolts and trick rai you won’t need psyshock

[chilly tundra]

Boots Val? Is that a hazard stack innovation?

[queen saddle]

Thought that said twave on Val

[queen saddle]

also no, it’s normal
boots is js too good

[chilly tundra]

I feel that on IVAL, you need a more oppressive item

[nocturne sable]

Boots Val is a bootspam thing

You only ever see it on bootspam teams with no hazard removal

[chilly tundra]

Is bootspam no hazard removal even good?

[nocturne sable]

Yea it is

It’s bootspam you don’t worry about hazards

[chilly tundra]

Is it just balance core + a Gliscor?

[nocturne sable]

It could be clef, could be ting Lu, could be Gliscor could be corv yea

[chilly tundra]

Is it basically just bulky HStack?

Something like this I made?

https://pokepast.es/8cf6ad6a843d7e0f

[nocturne sable]

Something like this

But this is like bulky Hstack bootspam

Bootspam offense is a bit different

[chilly tundra]

Example?

I’m curious

[quartz lark]

Tera Steel Heavy Slam Zama (Fairies) >> Tera Dark Ice Fang Zama
AV Rott (Fairies) >> Boots Rott (Tera Poison)

[nocturne sable]

Can’t exactly give an example right now as I can’t find the exact team, I probably do have replays but they’re deeply buried cuz I save a lot lol

But usually you would see a comp of ival gholdengo ting Lu dragonite etc

And some other speed control options like a zama

[nocturne sable]

This comp can be fine for the most part.

However dark spams like these are super fairy weak, like astolfo said above Tera steel zama can be a good option to deal with fairies.

You can also look at Tera fire kingambit to avoid burn from willo hex puts and resist fairy too

[lost folio]

Charlie Kirkambit (Kingambit) (F) @ Black Glasses
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Swords Dance
• Sucker Punch
• Kowtow Cleave
• Iron Head
  Is this a good EV spread or should I go max speed?

[humble elk]

thanks you two

Ill do this once i get wifii

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/c6f2207e4d44e00e

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[inner terrace]

this feels really frail to me

theres no water resist here

oh theres wabsorb clod

[alpine hornet]

the issue i see here is removalless stall is washed rn due to prevalence of knockers like rai in the tier; also ival doesnt rly add anything on structures like this

[inner terrace]

i think it's weirdly playable if u run fog corv over uturn

and ngl you dont even need sd scor

you can run uturn eq tox

cause val is your knocker

[chilly tundra]

I’m gonna replace Val

The point was to use SD scor

On a hazard stacking nonsense team

[inner terrace]

issue with sd scor fats like these is you face weezing and you get fried

not really a chance to put up much of a fight

[chilly tundra]

Is there a way to combat that?

[chilly tundra]

Is SD scor ass for that reason?

[inner terrace]

not ass per se

it's just very constrained

a lotta sd scor teams defensively feel sketchy ngl

like i look at most sd scor teams and they get fried by bolt kyu etc which you're fine with here but you have nothing for weez

it's a viable mon for sure but there's other balancey breakers that are more consistent like having your knockers be your speed control and stuff

and still run ting stuff

[chilly tundra]

Maybe run like knock wake?

[inner terrace]

then u lose to pon

[chilly tundra]

Fuck

[inner terrace]

grasspon is honestly pretty cool here

[chilly tundra]

Cudgel, turn, knock, encore?

[inner terrace]

should be a fine set

i like synth over uturn personally

[chilly tundra]

Oh

[chilly tundra]

I was thinking since we run Lu, we run the wish fish

And U turn on Oger

[final relic]

eh

[inner terrace]

oh that

i mean it seems similar to one of my favorite structures pre gouge ban

probably can work

[chilly tundra]

You’re skeptical?

[inner terrace]

but to do so youd have to scrap the whole team btw

[final relic]

yeah idk about having mola here

not too compatible with like

this kind of structure

[inner terrace]

ting skarm mola grasspon ghold and then one speed control is like maybe workable

[lime narwhal]

Hey guys I’ve been out of touch with the OU meta for a few generations now, mind if I just make a quick team and tell me how to tweak it?

[chilly tundra]

Ghold and not Pech?

[inner terrace]

i mean either is fine

i think you might get blown up by kyu with pech though

[chilly tundra]

Maybe

Also is ting Lu the rocker or spiker?

[inner terrace]

rocker

skarm spikes

general rule of thumb is you want your more passive mon to be the spiker and your more active mon which can pivot in more easily to be the rocker

but sometimes you're forced to use a more aggressive spiker obviously like samu or waterpon

[chilly tundra]

Yeah

What should our speed control be?

I’m using Ghold and not Pech

Air balloon nasty plot bholdghold

[chilly tundra]

Is Zama a good choice here for Kyurem?

[inner terrace]

as the speed control yes

[chilly tundra]

Yeah

https://pokepast.es/40510ac92f9526ff

Here’s the team @inner terrace

[final relic]

ok hm

this i dont hate

what is this missing it feels like theres something

[inner terrace]

oh yeah

since we uh

arent using pon on a stall shit you can use uturn

over synth

and u have mola for it

[chilly tundra]

Oh yeah, forgot to change it after Mola was suggested

[inner terrace]

i think whirl skarm is better here btw

[final relic]

yeah taunt or whirl are both fine

tbh

[inner terrace]

oh yeah taunt is pretty good

[chilly tundra]

No Idef?

[inner terrace]

you can also run trick scarf ghold

well all scarf gholds are trick but

you get the idea

with sd cudgel knock encore pon

[chilly tundra]

I always prefer bholdghold on hazard structures for more longevity

[chilly tundra]

SD and U turn?

[inner terrace]

no

encore and sd

[chilly tundra]

What’s the skarm’s attacking move? Brave bird?

Or press for gambino?

[chilly tundra]

Cool

Also should Ghold be balloon or boots?

[inner terrace]

up to you

i think boots if you dont run scarf

[supple ginkgo]

ohh i see

[turbid kelp]

https://pokepast.es/19be9f8e2ae048ee
Finally made a team I actually like for OU, the only matchup I really struggled against during testing was a specs zapdos in rain, other thing this team struggles against is steel types but I can mostly manage

Considering dropping mola for something with more spd

[turbid kelp]

https://pokepast.es/a2671106eb4ba921
Maybe this?

[humble elk]

Why the change on bolt and removla of ghold?

https://pokepast.es/b26b6e984be3df72

heres what i got then

[chilly tundra]

https://pokepast.es/3b524b6a797b1bd9

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[quartz lark]

Tusk (Breaking Power) >> Scor (SR, Head, Knock, Rapid)

SpDef (Balance) Tran >> Def Tran (Magma, Earth Power, Taunt, Wisp)

[turbid hedge]

https://pokepast.es/f48564e110f32175 any suggestions on how to improve this team?

[nocturne sable]

Because I felt like you needed more breaking power, that’s why I suggested specs bolt.

I replaced Ghold because it’s the least important member of the team, you already have molt to check zama & most iron valiants so you don’t really need that defensive Ghold.

Glowking offers Tspikes absorption, easy pivoting and check to fairies like prim enam etc.

[amber terrace]

https://pokepast.es/09025afcd1ab71f4
updated version pls lmkk what yall thinkk

[nocturne sable]

I’m curious what are the hamurotts evs for?

[amber terrace]

im not sure tbh, it was just this guys opinion and he seemed kinda credible, im guessing the speed in particular is for heatran, and the hp evs are for giving it time for more spikes, once again this is just speculation thoo, please feel free to give your opinion regardless of what this person saiddd

[humble elk]

oh yeahh true my team didnt feel super strong offensively before, thanks

[nocturne sable]

There’s not much I have to say because the team comp is pretty standard, my only personal suggestions is Tera fire gambit but Tera ghost is also fine.

[sacred delta]

is blaze instead of libero intentional on this ace set?

[queen saddle]

Bulky aces run blaze because they have enough bulk to activate it and hit like a truck

[knotty sundial]

*blaze

but yes

[queen saddle]

Yeah

mb

[nocturne sable]

Yes bulky ace runs blaze intentionally. You want to avoid burns from mons like moltres

And yea it’s easier to activate since bulky ace can tank a lot of non boosted hits

[craggy pier]

https://pokepast.es/8d76cd97856980da

https://pokepast.es/e0af951277de7bf8

Need help deciding which one's better. (I'm still pretty new to team building so suggested changes would be greatly appreciated.)

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Primarina set here is weird so I would say the other one seems better.

[craggy pier]

Yea it was some old set I found on one my older teams. I don't really remember what it was for tbh so I just thought it was some standard set 😭 It's probably from a video I watched or something

[craggy pier]

It looks like an anti-stall set I think 😭

[nocturne sable]

Problem with the other team is that is kinda lacking power.

Ogerpon set is kinda wack here. I would just make it regular sd horn leech ivy play rough.

And I’m not really a fan of of sole ace removal teams like this, you’re basically forced to not click stealth roc otherwise your team is taking rocks chip.

[craggy pier]

So would it be like Molt Tusk instead?

[nocturne sable]

I mean solo ace removal teams can still work but it’s just kinda annoying to play with yk

[craggy pier]

Oh I see. I'll probably just give it a few more tries to see if it feels too awkward to play Ig. But would Molt Tusk be the change if not Ace?

[knotty sundial]

do you just run boots spam at that point

[young gust]

https://pokepast.es/653aeb5f2e4d0817

can somoene rate my sun tam

[knotty sundial]

you need to set your tera types

tusk always runs headlong rush over earthquake

well not always but like

overwhelmingly so

sun teams very often want a hatterene or cresselia for hazard support or pivot+cleric support

[worn plinth]

https://pokepast.es/6c6a51230438cb64, Any advice on filling in the last slot? Right now mandibuzz works well for the ogrepon match up, but I'm not a big fan of triple fairy and ice weakness, but the other defogers/rapid spinners have a lot of overlap with my current team, and I found weezing-galar to be sub-par. Thanks in advance!

[gaunt forum]

https://pokepast.es/7a88d8728309be58

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/1eee7b96c84ebde8 let's hope this doesn't suck

[scarlet nacelle]

speed is for modest heatran

[nocturne sable]

Oh makes sense

[scarlet nacelle]

& bulk is to live freeze dry from kyu

should've explained to the guy sry

[nocturne sable]

By kyu you mean like subtect and AV kyurem right

[scarlet nacelle]

yes

[nocturne sable]

K ic makes sense

[scarlet nacelle]

no ice resist makes weavile/kyu automatically hard

only fire resist being ace as well

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/fd10e1b925f38322

[frozen spoke]

https://pokepast.es/debf1ad5b9f08ec4 Sinistcha hazard stack + boots spam

[nocturne sable]

Torn is weak here I’m ngl, I would make it LO here instead to make your team stronger

You also want rocky helmet here because you don’t have any way of punishing physical attackers outside of willo wisp ace. Make Hydrapple rocky helmet.

Also flamethrower>Twave on Glowking

[nocturne sable]

I like Tera grass moth here with energy ball instead of ghost. I would just make the Hamurott the ghost Tera instead if you want to keep the triple Tera ghost

[gritty lake]

idea of tera ghost moth was for id za

or just regular 4a

[nocturne sable]

I mean, Tera ghost Lando can also accomplish the same feat in beating zama

Tera grass moth would make you better into woger

[round portal]

tried to make slitherwing work https://pokepast.es/8a27925b4077d3e8

[round portal]

ok after laddering with this i think hdb is better

on glowking

colbur doesnt do that much

[jade cedar]

wait like np lo or just lo?, also why flamethrower on glowking, to surprise ghold and gambit?

[languid condor]

https://pokepast.es/3741312948e22d8b

boots spam

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/051a29dd83150689

[round portal]

omg glt pfp

[languid condor]

❤️

[low phoenix]

you just copied this from pinkacross didnt you

[low phoenix]

make val boots mixed

change throat chop on lu to eq

change fb on gholdengo to nasty plot

[languid condor]

whats my speed control then

[low phoenix]

meowscarada

you can also try dnite over val for priority and clefable over scor for rocks and just make ting lu your spiker

[languid condor]

hm what dnite set

[low phoenix]

standard boots espeed roost

[chilly tundra]

Isn’t Alo better here? It keeps Ting Lu supremely healthy

[languid condor]

i forgot alo learned wish

ill try that out

[stone sierra]

https://pokepast.es/7ae1ef6d6afa0d80 ik this is drag mag in 2026 but I swear it’s not an april fools joke Nv this team sucks

[jade cedar]

what? bruh no, yes I have sent another version in pinkacord which I need an opinion after some talking I went this, literally I can screenshot that conversation if you still don't believe me

[round portal]

what do u do against a tera'ed zamazenta

[stone sierra]

tera what?

fire?

[round portal]

most tera zamas win

just on the spot

[elder knoll]

Your only out vs id Zama is encore Val

[stone sierra]

It’s Tera ghost shadow claw

[chilly tundra]

💀

[elder knoll]

Nvm you get 6-0d then

[stone sierra]

Lmao

I should make it mixed sd

Oh right I’m dnite sand

Should go torn

[stone sierra]

https://pokepast.es/d75392f3a9f4ed6e rillamag

[low phoenix]

https://youtu.be/sZL4DrAF9xg?si=gaMGa4ABmMbCBM8S

Probably coincidence anyways dw about it

[ornate isle]

https://pokepast.es/f5595b747d14d452

i tried making an offense hazard stack

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ornate isle]

is this decent?

[quartz stream]

the main glaring issue is that ur only knock off user is your Hrott which will probably be weakened from setting hazards

and you only have 2 boots users/1 hazard remover and can't survive a prolonged hazard chip competition

also you have suspect speed control, aqua jet on hrott and sucker/thunderclap aren't reliable enough in the year of 2026

I'm not quite sure where to start here ngl, personally I would remove the landorus and move stealth rock to tusk, and remove either the bolt or the gambit

bring in knock off users that can beat gliscor and corv (especially corviknight)
also maybe knock off on tusk too as a backup, not sure which move you would remove though

[quartz stream]

I think pinkacross has a guide on how to make offensive hazard stack, you can use that to refine your team a bit if you want

[final relic]

ok you have some of the baseline stuff for a solid team here

keeping the tusk, samu, gambit is probably best which lets you go for a double removal angle: https://pokepast.es/cbcd2d9650b2e7e2

i threw rocks on tusk and changed the set as generally unless you absolutely know what youre doing 0 speed invest is not good

tera dark adamant+glasses to actually break things

pretty standard av torn

pech to beat most physical setup

tera fire gambit has a very good mu into common fat teams

[jade cedar]

;-;

[ornate isle]

Im curious why fire?

Also thanks for the team

Also what does hattrene do?

[final relic]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/hatterene/ but basically denies opposing hazards from gliscor, tusk, ting lu while being annoying with paralysis psychic noise and sticking around for a long time with pain split

[final relic]

one of the usual answer for gambit on a bulky offense is to burn it then go to a soft check like ting lu, boots zama etc

[ornate isle]

Ahhj does ruination not hit hattrene?

[limber spear]

with pain split and phy def spread u would win that mu

unless heavy slam ting lu

[ornate isle]

I sse thanks!

[jade cedar]

@limber spear need you help if you don't mind ;-;

[quartz stream]

this team is p much fine outside of shaky speed control, what are you having trouble with

are you losing to HO? feels like something like a ceru can easily 6-0 you if it gets set up

[jade cedar]

what team that doesn't get severely damaged against sd ceru?

[frozen spoke]

^

[undone pagoda]

https://pokepast.es/be360ed85479cd2b

Attempted to make an anti-meta team for low ladder as im constantly seeing

Gliscor, garganacle, and bulky great tusk

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[knotty sundial]

is zama supposed to be resttalk

(if so just make it resto chesto)

[elder knoll]

looks like a nd team

All stab teras

[knotty sundial]

that too

imo twave is weird on np ghold

and cb dnite moves are also weird

[final relic]

ok assuming this is for sv ou

you have no teras

band dnite isnt good without some form of removal

same goes for garg

ghold should have one of focusblast/recover/dgleam

[undone pagoda]

forgot to add them on pikalytic

[rugged fiber]

https://pokepast.es/ca40d03f64f94695 what to change here?

[stone sierra]

changed rillamag a bit, having issues vs other weather teamshttps://pokepast.es/4dd844db493bdf7b

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Maybe the double stealth rock on your team, you don’t need 2 rock setters

You can make treads ice spinner here for now instead to improve your Gliscor mu

[near trail]

peak

[tepid hazel]

guys can yall help

idk what to replace to add water resistant

https://pokepast.es/b4c4e00293528498

[regal ginkgo]

Hey @viscid shadow, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9doublesou team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059655497587888158 instead.

[quartz stream]

wtf is this scizor set? Bug buzz agility?

[stone sierra]

sd rocks dual dragon chomp

[quartz stream]

if u really want the water resist, get rid of scizor or gambit, probably gambit cuz scizor has bullet punch and knock

maybe Hrott is a thin

[gaunt forum]

https://pokepast.es/7a88d8728309be58

[mental pagoda]

So I just threw this team together and I was just wondering what I could improve on

https://pokepast.es/92d2bb97c8981fb5

[tepid hazel]

uhhhhh

[tepid hazel]

what should I replace it with tho

I dont really know how to build a team i just recently got into comp pokemon

[tepid hazel]

gambit is winning me fights after I set the hazards tho

[tepid hazel]

I replaced bug buzz with dual wingbeat

[tepid hazel]

I replaced it with dondozo chesto berry curse rest sleep talk

Im not sure what to use as the last move tho

nvm i just put earthquake on it and hoped for the best

[quartz stream]

well this is pretty well done for a new player

if you really want the water resist, then get rid of scizor for h samurott

[quartz stream]

wtf no

don't use dondozo outside of stall

your team is pretty offensive and dondozo has bad offensive power and you will trip over it

use hisui samurott if you want a knck off user with priority over scizor

that also resists water

[tepid hazel]

thanks:]

[tepid hazel]

oh mb

[tepid hazel]

ohhhh icic

[quartz stream]

you can try out different things in battle and see what works

you can make a copy of ur team if you don't want to lose what you had before

[tepid hazel]

yeah thats what im doing^^

My whole team got OHKO by moonblast Tera fairy.

[quartz stream]

iron valiant or enamorus

wait why is your great tusk hasty nature

[modern summit]

https://pokepast.es/e10b65ac5a4c2bc6

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[modern summit]

how do I make this team better?

[modern summit]

i forgot to add tera for treads but now its ghost

[tepid hazel]

Oh i forgot to change that

I wanted a really fast great tusk

Using booster energy and protosynthesis

[chilly tundra]

Run spdef ting Lu

Never run physical

[modern summit]

alr

[modern summit]

anything else?

[nocturne sable]

You’re better off with balloon Ghold here than heavy duty boots for sure, you don’t have any ground immunity

[modern summit]

I see

[modern summit]

is it a viable team?

[nocturne sable]

I mean yea it looks like a standard team comp

But like the sets are off kinda

[modern summit]

i just took them off smogon

[nocturne sable]

You want Tera ice on treads>>ground to KO Gliscor with ice spinner

[modern summit]

oh tera ice>ghost?

[modern summit]

yeah I don’t run tera ground I just forgot to change the tera

the smogon standard set for treads said to run either knock off/spinner then rocks but im running both since im using ting li

lu

[nocturne sable]

Yea that’s fine

[modern summit]

alr

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/80170469ef67b57f I was also thinking maybe black glasses rai can be useful here since it gives you an additional strong knocker and priority with sucker punch.

I also changed zama to boots 4 attacks because I feel it’s more consistent here than sub id. Tera steel will help into fairies like prim enam etc.

Also made heavy slam Lu for similar reasons, hatt is kinda annoying and will block your ting lu’s hazards so you want a way of chipping it.

Also think hex Twave Ghold is kinda free, you have woger that threatens all the relevant grounds and treads which can handle non heat wave Zapdos.

[modern summit]

Hm black glasses?

I forgot what that does lemme check

[nocturne sable]

Boost dark type moves by 1.2x

[modern summit]

Oh

I like specs tho cuz I can one shot wellspring with sludge bomb

[modern summit]

Hm I see heavy slam makes sense

[nocturne sable]

I think wellspring gets KOed by zama, and Ghold can live a cudgel & Twave it.

[modern summit]

yea I guess I don’t need a million setup sweepers

So prob should change gholdengo

i never really got to get off many nasty plots

[nocturne sable]

I think alternatively you can also consider double air balloon with treads and Ghold to secure that ground immunity. And maybe NP rai with Tera ghost to tech for dnite espeed.

[modern summit]

NP?

[knotty sundial]

nasty plot

[modern summit]

oh

[modern summit]

hm can I use the changes but keep specs rai?

[nocturne sable]

I mean you can do what you want

[modern summit]

yeah but I don’t wanna use a worse combo

[nocturne sable]

You can try out both

[modern summit]

thanks for the help tho ima try

[modern summit]

yeah im planning to test and see what I like best

whatever I like using the most is just gonna be the end result prob

[restive swift]

https://pokepast.es/5838e2ade6e417ae Im a new player and I was wanting to get some feedback on this team I made

[gray karma]

On Zamazenta :

heavy slam over wild charge to manage better Fairy types, and also u can put Life Orb or Heavy-duty with Steel Teracrystal to counter Iron Valiant

And I think Spin + Court Change + Defog is kinda meh since u have Court Change or Spin, u don't rly need 3 entry hazards remover

So u can play smth like Dengo to block Spin & Defog since I see u have Stealth Rock on Treads

I personally like the bulky offense moveset of dengo but if ur more comfortable with scarf, twave or fully offensive it works too

[restive swift]

Ok cool, thanks for the feedback, I’ll try switch some stuff up

[gray karma]

ywyw

[chilly tundra]

I think treads could be replaced with something else

[worthy moss]

https://pokepast.es/7148ca35126e9075 any tips on my team? not too serious of a team, I dont wanna play any like top threats but im fine swapping anyone but inteleon out

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[worthy moss]

i also do find northface regice really funny

[nocturne sable]

You can replace iron treads with ting Lu here.

Corviknight set is kinda unoptimal, make it brave bird U-turn defog roost.

Lu-corv-ace is pretty standard.

I would probably replace darkrai>glowking and make ace a more offensive set here with sucker punch.

I would also make zama an offensive item like life orb or choice band. I definitely like choice band better here paired with Future sight glowking.

Dnite I would make it a greedy bulky set with dd roost Tera fairy eq.

For other Tera’s:
tera dragon corv(woger)
Tera water lu(useful for a fire resist like moth, ceru, ace etc)
Tera fairy glowking(stops dragon moves from being spammed, situational)
Tera fire ace(stronger pyro balls, just keep as it is)
Tera dark zama(still fine as a back up incase ghost become super threatening)

[nocturne sable]

I’m sorry but we can’t really rate teams that don’t want to be optimized. Fun is fun but this channel is really only for optimizing teams.

Inteleon is also a really bad pokemon as it does zero damage without the crits. The best advice I can give you on Inteleon is using it on a standard rain structure with like pelipper iron treads raging bolt barraskewda & sneaking it as the additional shitmon rain abuser of the team.

https://pokepast.es/60b770df3843b3dc I tried building an inteleon team a long time ago because I thought scope lens double priority would be funny but shits still ass

[worthy moss]

what would the 6th on this team be? a spdef pivot?

[nocturne sable]

An eject button user usually like hatterene yea

Or you can stack another rain abuser like swords dance overqwil

[stone sierra]

Sounds super similar to that old specs kyu sample team

https://pokepast.es/ae339120a9a13fc0 also updated rillamag team

[nocturne sable]

Yea it sounds like blimax

But as the saying goes the good ole sv cores always work

[quartz lark]

Astolfo’s Liverpool
https://pokepast.es/5027d996bd14840d

[frozen fox]

what do you do vs weather?

[knotty sundial]

https://pokepast.es/ae8cf56b4d45d92c

[restive swift]

Thanks for the feedback!

[quartz lark]

If Wake is specs, then force the 50/50
If Wake isn’t specs, then tera Lu for hydro steam

[frozen fox]

252+ SpA Protosynthesis Walking Wake Hydro Steam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu in Sun: 342-404 (66.5 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

I have seen the rise of modest scarf recently in weather teams so...

i'm just being precautious

[frozen fox]

also honestly personal preference but i think lefties on screen teams but thas just me

[knotty sundial]

lefties on what?

[frozen fox]

ledge

also again

feels weak to water types

i know oger is a rain deterrent on its own

however on rain teams there are mons that aren't choice locked

and oger could force 50/50 on those choiced mons

which is not a situation you would want to be in

[frozen fox]

ledge?

as in

ceruLEDGE

[knotty sundial]

oh I got that part lol, just was reading over the rest

[frozen fox]

ALSo tera steel i val looks diabolical

i don't run rotom often what's with the speed evs?

[knotty sundial]

dyt I should run tbolt on ghold or ival?

[frozen fox]

if you're screens you should be lefties on ghold as well thinking about it

and recover

[knotty sundial]

hm so then replace like vacuum wave with tbolt?

[frozen fox]

eeh yeah

[quartz lark]

No Specs
244+ SpA Protosynthesis Walking Wake Hydro Steam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Tera Poison Ting-Lu in Sun: 171-202 (33.2 - 39.2%) -- 13.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Specs:
244 SpA Choice Specs Walking Wake Hydro Steam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Tera Poison Ting-Lu in Sun: 178-211 (34.6 - 41%) -- 64% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Have to Tera Poison when Wake isn’t Specs but is fine when non specs Wake is in the minority

[frozen fox]

and glim imo should just be full hazard stacks

[quartz lark]

Gambit

[frozen fox]

still only covering a band aid

252+ SpA Protosynthesis Walking Wake Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Tera Poison Ting-Lu: 184-217 (35.7 - 42.2%) -- 90.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

it still does a huge chunk

[frozen fox]

(if you run modest you go full sp atk)

[quartz lark]

Low pp on draco + reducing + rest and lefties lu makes Draco on wake fine

[frozen fox]

sure.. also why isn't there any hazards? I know i val is a good breaker but hazards/chip would greatly benefit the team

[quartz lark]

Tusk is the primary setter

[frozen fox]

ah didn't see that

[quartz lark]

Mhm hm

[frozen fox]

is there a reason why everything is poison? why not steel on wash?

[knotty sundial]

I do wonder if spikes lu>rest here

ig if you want to be able to switch into draco multiple times you need resttalk

[quartz lark]

Levitate on rotom prefers poison over steel to not be weak to cc or bp

Poison on Lu is for fairies/focus blast

Poison on rai is for pretty much the same thing as lu

[quartz lark]

Rest lu prefers sleep talk over hazards

[frozen fox]

you can absorb ccs well with something like pech

[knotty sundial]

I meant like spikes+whirlwind>resttalk

but I changed my mind

[frozen fox]

by the looks of it you're phsy defensive too

[quartz lark]

Preferred rest talk with tusk as primary setter

[frozen fox]

so crunch isn't too bad

or any other coverage

[quartz lark]

Rotom also has wisp

[frozen fox]

steel feels better for poison immunity

on rotom

[quartz lark]

Poison types are immune to poison-inducing moves

[frozen fox]

as in fully immune from poison moves

[quartz lark]

Ic

[frozen fox]

malignant chain/sludge bomb still isn't fun

[quartz lark]

It won’t get poisoned

[frozen fox]

yeah but you can still get dmged and rotom isn't invested in sp def

and honestly rotom sp def isn't the best

[quartz lark]

Poison types resist poison moves

[frozen fox]

still

it's standard and i love standard slop

[quartz lark]

I prefer the poison coverage

[nocturne sable]

Ting Lu usually Tera’s when facing Sun to specifically face walking wake please don’t make comments on people’s RMT if you’re not experienced with the meta

[frozen fox]

mb (I faced it multiple times so I just thought to add my 2 cents)

the amount of dragaults that fell to this ain't even funny

[worn lark]

https://pokepast.es/e93f0ffc3962b5d9 extremely bulky team starring hisuian arcanine

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[final relic]

corv as sole hazard removal wont really cut it

youre missing move 4 on gking but also generally stacking both gking and pech wont work out very well

probably want a tusk here too at the very least

2 banded guys im not so sure about, can probably be some special breaker like kyurem/darkrai/pult etc

[worn lark]

Hm ok

Probably pult since i dont have a particularly fast mon

Lokix was kind of insane though

Might replace arc

[worn lark]

Hmm.. which should i keep?

[chilly tundra]

I’d just say run a different banded non

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/e2c7337529c95dd4 having consistency issues

[knotty sundial]

a9 w/o kyu 🥀

[gaunt forum]

https://pokepast.es/d897e3d79385b9c2

[scarlet nacelle]

no fire resist, also looks exactly like the prof suicune team except tusk over ace

[dusk shore]

https://pokepast.es/7301aea07145ba72

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Okay so replace the cetitan with a great tusk and you have a pretty standard balance team.

[dusk shore]

Hm will think about that, this teams really weak to wellspring ogerpon tho, any recommendations for that?

[nocturne sable]

Yea I noticed that too

I was thinking just replace molt with Zapdos to make woger mu better

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/54ec9f93706254f1 make your team something like this

[dusk shore]

will look into this, thanks!

[tranquil jetty]

https://pokepast.es/ff63c01c52c77e66

[quartz lark]

Astolfo’s Barcelona
https://pokepast.es/156d7c29381359f2

[nocturne sable]

Unless you were running like a rooster defog set, decidueye adds nothing here.

You just took a standard team comp and added decidueye randomly here.

If you want to build around a Mon like decidueye understand what role you want it to do first before adding the pieces. Decidueye can have a niche since it has a unique set of moves with knock off, defog, spirit shackle, etc. but it has to make sense on the team you’re adding it to.

[nocturne sable]

Scarf meow doesn’t belong on webs.

-make gholdengo: np dazzling shadow ball psyshock with Tera fairy.

-would also make thundurus a nasty plot set, I’m interested in how a nasty plot thunderbolt Tera blast ground and grass knot move set can work here, although the regular Tera fairy works here too.

-glimmora is fine

-Kingambit Tera is kinda unoptimal if you’re not running black glasses, I would either just make it Tera ghost or Tera fire depends in your preference.

I would replace meow here with BU speed booster great tusk. Taunt BU head smash headlong can work here

[quartz lark]

Going with ghold changes, tusk, gambit changes, thundurus changes

I can see Tera blast ground for slowking-galar

[jade cedar]

is there a way to make this better? https://pokepast.es/a6dfc71f5d33090c

[gaunt forum]

no idea who that is but i made it myself

[low phoenix]

If you’re building around specs yanmega no not really tbh it just becomes a liability once rocks are set up

https://pokepast.es/bfd03c105645d828

Try this

[jade cedar]

this is why the riduclous amount of hazard control is there

[low phoenix]

what about kyurem tho

if youre using a suboptimal mon its because you want to use it and build around it not because youre building the best team possible

[young gust]

https://pokepast.es/08f86c69578e7688

can someone rate my team

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[alpine hornet]

fastest mon iron crown followed by heatran definitely means u lose to everything eg pon 6-0s on lead

[young gust]

which mosn do i replace

[alpine hornet]

id take mola luna in a slightly more offensive angle, drop heatran for cind and pecha for pult

this also lets u replace corv w something that covers more holes

[frosty plinth]

Having no speed control is bad but they have corvi, and pech. This is ridiculous to say

Even Luna eats a cudgel and trades with pon

[alpine hornet]

which i think here is probably an id zama

though then you're bolt weak

[young gust]

doesnt luna cover bolt

[frosty plinth]

That being said u have like 3 physical walls, one breaker, and two special walls

[little pilot]

What about scarf ghold?

[alpine hornet]

@frosty plinth please leave rating to the raters twin ✌️

[frosty plinth]

Ig it could hypothetically be a decent semistall but your special walls have no recovery

[elder knoll]

this shit ain’t stall or tr

💀

[alpine hornet]

unfortunately blown up by draco and chipped down too easily

[young gust]

i ws gona use tr

[frosty plinth]

I agreed with them that
They need speed control

[young gust]

il ad tr

to a mon

[frosty plinth]

nah don't

[young gust]

mybe creselia?

[frosty plinth]

that wouldn't help

[young gust]

oh ok

[frosty plinth]

Son

[little pilot]

Pory 2

[young gust]

https://pokepast.es/1983550e5a2080f1

i changed the pechu and heatran

[frosty plinth]

I would go volt switch over psyshock (or noise) on crown

[young gust]

ok

[frosty plinth]

Id also go bulky or at least wisp ace, ghost gambit spokes you here

[alpine hornet]

i'm being dead serious ur suggestions are wholly uneducated

[frosty plinth]

son I said one thing

[alpine hornet]

https://pokepast.es/7140bb9ce6a996e0 @young gust keeping as many mons/similar mons as possible this is what i came out w

[young gust]

tinkas viable in ou?

oh nice

[frosty plinth]

which was literally agreeing with you besides the fact that Pon destroys immediately

[alpine hornet]

a good deal more offensive but hopefully keeps most of the ideas u wanted

[young gust]

alr tysm

[knotty sundial]

tink has some nice utility for ou yeah

[frosty plinth]

Rocks tink and ace is anti synergy no?

[alpine hornet]

its niche but its what i could cope here to help w the potentially hard bolt and kyu mus

i think mola luna is a lil disadvantaged rn but this should be fine

[young gust]

i have no hazard cleaes

[young gust]

u can change em if u want

like

i want luna the most

but mola is js a good pivot mon and wish pasewr

[alpine hornet]

lowk luna is also a lil disadvantaged rn off of like screens and tr

but as far as a luna pivot heavy offense goes

this should be fine at a glance

[young gust]

do i need hazarc learer

or nah

[alpine hornet]

on a structure like this as long as u play aggressively enough cind should be fine for hazards

[young gust]

oh alr

stall breaking on this team is fine right

[alpine hornet]

u have an ursaluna

could make it faster luna/sd over protect if ur struggling but

[knotty sundial]

ursaluna
yeah it's fine

[alpine hornet]

i cant imagine its an issue

[young gust]

alr yea

[knotty sundial]

oh oops late

[young gust]

theres donbozo which takes. 0 dmg

i think i could kil

[alpine hornet]

dozo is dropped in two even if they curse between them

[frosty plinth]

it gets 2hkoed

by facade

[young gust]

alr yea