SV OU Rates

[nocturne sable]

Maybe for the tusk set you can run speed booster if you’re running max hp

Or can go regular boots tusk with max attack and just make sucker punch Hamu+torn your main speed control

[fallen coyote]

Ill try out booster as i havent ran booster tusk before

[nocturne sable]

K

[tepid hazel]

https://pokepast.es/19ff00eb89ad73b5 fun team idea i had but im not sure if i made the right partners for cetitan

[queen saddle]

Thats a random ting lu

Just use rocks tusk and a phys def pivot like Molt

[tepid hazel]

Thanks

[shrewd condor]

https://pokepast.es/028d046d5ba18438 how can i make this better. its a samurott nuke/setup build but something feels off.

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[final relic]

tera dark glasses is better than what you have

make hat a regular pain split set

dnite can be roost > ice spinner tbh

i dont like ghold on this

ghold can be made a cloak np pech i wanna say

ok hmm

https://pokepast.es/0cae7d8ce8a4d9ab

this is what i came up w/

[shrewd condor]

https://pokepast.es/028d046d5ba18438 how can i make this better. its a samurott nuke/setup build but something feels off.

[final relic]

see above

[shrewd condor]

ok

[final relic]

oh

uh lets see

[shrewd condor]

cause that team i had b4

the one u sent

and ngl it felt off

cause i didnt rly have a good speed con

and it wasnt focusing on letting samurott sweep/nuke or setup tbh

the latest team i sent is my own

[final relic]

ok

https://pokepast.es/71d0f5e6c8916da9

it looked mostly fine to begin with cause webs is hard to screw up really

but here’s what id change

[shrewd condor]

ok ill look at it

whats skill swap for?

i used it on ribombee b4 but i js never used it

[final relic]

for hatt

[shrewd condor]

skill swap

[shrewd condor]

whats it for

wouldnt it be better if i used u turn or smth

[final relic]

if there’s a hat you have to skill swap to get your webs on the field

[rapid barn]

Yup

[shrewd condor]

is it possible to say that but for a dumb person whose new

whats a jat

hat

[rapid barn]

Hatterene

The Pokémon with magic bounce

[rapid barn]

I think could make valiant modest

[final relic]

you wanna outrun tornadus, tealpon, etc.

[rapid barn]

Ahh

[final relic]

and i think its best to have a decent plan for if webs cant go up

[rapid barn]

Makes sense

[shrewd condor]

ok i see

imma try it

my opponent kinda tends to rapid spin etc the webs so maybe web and switch to keep ribombee safe,

?i think im ivercommiting with ribombee

also i kinda feel like tera water on samurrot is better since these u turns are getting rly annoying

[low phoenix]

https://pokepast.es/e58e8f8ead1e58cc

should i make corv phys def or sp def?

if i make corv sp def my team is vulnerable to kingambit if i make it phys def my team is vulnerable to grass spam and iron valiant

[rapid barn]

Wdym by overcommitting

[rapid barn]

Isn’t this basically an exact copy of a sample minus the ditto?

Yeah make it spdef

[shrewd condor]

like im tryna spam sticky n stuff when they spin it or wtv

i think im supposed to paly it passive more right?

[rapid barn]

You got gholdengo to block

Sticky web is an offensive style

[shrewd condor]

okay i see

[low phoenix]

lots of teams have similar mons

[rapid barn]

I mean but this is basically the same team, the evs are just swapped slightly and dragapult switched for ditto

And basically the point of the spdef tera ice corv was to fix the matchup against other kyurems

[nocturne sable]

Can probably make corv spdef since you have physdef mola to shore up physical attacks.

Maybe freeze dry on kyurem to break waters fr?

Not really sure I’m a fan of solo body press corv. Woger looks real scary into your team.

Outside of that should be generally fine

[low phoenix]

i want to keep dd sub tect ice spear

i can look at the other changes tho

[nocturne sable]

Feels MU fishy to me but it’s wtv ig.

[rapid barn]

That was the issue was the team anyhow, the team had issues switching into wogerpon. Ditto fixes it a little but still a problem

[rapid barn]

https://pokepast.es/eed79f6d4ac5c5b5
this was the original team, I think the set changes is just not it

Problems with kyurem and wogerpon rn

Depending on the set, kingambit is also an issue

[queen saddle]

THATS WHY I SAW FLASH CANNON KYUREM THAT DAY

Why is flash cannon kyurem a thing tho

[nocturne sable]

Tera steel is nice into fairies ig

[rapid barn]

Yeah that’s the point of the set

To beat fairy types and take less from hazards

Don’t need protect as much since you can wish pass into kyurem

[shrewd condor]

i just realzied swords dance isnt permanent and is removed on switch

is it still a good idea to keep sd tho?

[rapid barn]

its fine

[shrewd condor]

is there anything to make my samurott more threatening tho

https://pokepast.es/15fb37fefe22a892

the aqua cutter and ceaseless edge is working out pretyt well

[rapid barn]

i mean this is threatening as it gets

[shrewd condor]

i see

[rapid barn]

sd tera dark black glasses sucker punches are pretty scary

[shrewd condor]

is there a way changing my mons can make hamu wtv

[rapid barn]

?

[shrewd condor]

like maybe my mons are holding itback?

i notice ion have a lot of uturns and whatnot

so maybe thats the problem?

like i need to ultilize the times where i can nuke freely

brb

[nocturne sable]

Just keep playing and eventually you will gain experience

[shrewd condor]

i see okay 👍

[nocturne sable]

You can also watch beginner guides on how to play from YouTubers like freezai, maybe pinkacross too

[shrewd condor]

ill watch that after i shower

ttyl

[deft zealot]

https://pokepast.es/4bef91e1d9ae1a65 I can't get past 1600 with this one. Dragapult definitely breaks the pacing, cause oftentime I find myself not using it for whole games (maybe it is too reliant on tera fairy???) but ghost type immunities are very useful. Iron threads feels off, if I invest in its bulk I have a rapid spinner which oftetimes doesn't do enough and if I invest in its offenses it stays alive for 2/3 turns. I can't find any alternatives that fits well

[shrewd condor]

okay im back

[rapid barn]

i feel like porygon isnt gonna pull their weight

and also yeah change dragapult to a more standard set

dd isnt very good

[deft zealot]

porygon actually outspeeds samurott, gholdengo and great tusk threatening ko

should I like

switch in a gholdengo

[rapid barn]

hmm

id say some sort of ghost resist

i dont think your team could handle a gambit very well rn either

[worthy moss]

https://pokepast.es/c4452d0ff372899c im at 1300 currently wondering if i can make this team any better, dou

I did just realize i have booster energy on 2 pokemon but idk what to swap them to

[deft zealot]

yeah that too, I tried conkeldurr but I ended up keeping the team as it was and chaining intimidates pivoting with corvinight

[rapid barn]

ting lu?

i think the other thing is that like if corv gets chipped a little, wellspring will break through pretty easily

[nocturne sable]

Hello, I tried to optimize your team a little bit https://pokepast.es/df52596d1fcb53df

I don’t think the 6 mons you chose were particularly bad, the problem is that the sets you chose were unoptimal. I changed the sets to be more standard, here’s the team breakdown.

Slowking: your main pivot on this team. Instead of lefties we go for black sludge as it basically does the same thing, but when you use the move trick on it into another non poison type Pokemon, it damages them instead of healing. Which is why we go for trick black sludge. The rest of the gking set is pretty standard stuff chilly reception to pivot out and sludge bomb and future sight as stabs.

Corviknight: main physical wall/check. we go with iron defense body press instead to better check physical attackers like dragonite, kingambit etc. I decided to keep defog however so we can create a double hazard removing core with iron treads.

Iron treads: your main spdef check into stuff like gholdengo & raging bolt. He also sets hazards for you and remove then with rapid spin.

Landorus: scarf landorus is fine. But instead of taunt we go with Tera blast flying to hit fighting types like great tusk and zama for super effective. While being 2x stab.

Porygon: porygon is a fringe Pokemon in OU but with this team comp I’m not against keeping it. It can outspeed & kill Ceruledge with shadow ball while being immune to shadow sneak. I switched to Tera normal for harder hitting stab.

Dragapult: I see you’re trying a life orb dragapult set so I just made it a standard mixed life orb pult set.

[shrewd condor]

i replaced raging bolt with dragapult

choice specs

[deft zealot]

thank you so much man, amazing work

just one question how do I deal with the lack of priority

[shrewd wyvern]

https://pokepast.es/2fd3135cc9b63290

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shrewd wyvern]

Hi need some thoughts on my team i just started playing OU and this is the first team I made any recommendations

[wispy goblet]

https://pokepast.es/f048eb0189e872fd
hazard stack team with kleavor, not sure if it will work on high ladder

[wispy goblet]

really struggled to fit kleavor into a team and this is the best i could do

[celest willow]

https://pokepast.es/c6b265fe58253dff made this team a couple months ago when i was active, starting to play again and wanted to know if this team is still viable

[queen saddle]

the average team that relies on magic bouncing to keep hazards off cry immensely once they see you

you kinda struggle w rocks bc ur only speed control is scarf Kleavor rlly so

best thing I can see is u playing smart

magic bounce and lando

subtech Kyurem looks scary but mainly only if you let it get a sub

[wispy goblet]

also should i run adamant or jolly on kleavor?

[queen saddle]

jolly

you’re speed tying the base 85’s

that run scarf

cough samu

and also ur kinda strugglin w scarf ghold

utility pult too

[wispy goblet]

are there any other isues with the team?

[queen saddle]

wait why that ghold set

is it to beat Zama?

[wispy goblet]

yea

i dont know if hatt would be enough

[queen saddle]

fair it isnt

[wispy goblet]

i originally used gliscor instead of lando but i got swept by gambit

[queen saddle]

not bad but idk if you want to lean specially or not here

ehh

physical might be fine just be careful of Tusk rlly

[wispy goblet]

does physical really tank that well?

eq from gliscor also doesnt even do that much

[queen saddle]

I meant physical Lando or special

bc I think special does more damage to tusk and maybe Gambit

but physical should be fine for the legendary birds

[nocturne sable]

Scarf Lando+pult is decent form of speed control

And you have a decent matchup into most priority users

[nocturne sable]

Any team that relies on hatt to remove hazards and kleavor to set up hazards is doomed to fail.

[queen saddle]

https://pokepast.es/b2b958932cc06d47

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[queen saddle]

Trying to make Chomp offense work for a specific reason

And found out l orb eq hits real hard

and at +2 with rocks up stone edge 2HKOES

so it can kill it tryna pivot or defogging

I’m thinking of idef Corvi, since I dont really like defog but not too sure

AV prim helps with giving me water resists, and the main important water I also find in Woger I can (I think) beat it with Corvi

or at least brave bird chip it for Rai

Any ideas? I’m really adamant on making Chomp work, so I’d like help

oh yeah tera ground EQ koes defensive Tusk and Clef so idk what else I should say abt it

turning maybe koes into for sure koes

[noble hare]

yall think this is a good team? ive been having good experience with it on ladder, currently still climbing, the main weaknesses ive found is sun and wogerpon (but like every semi/stall has those weaknesses) and hstack as i dont have geezing but cb pult somewhat mitigates it https://pokepast.es/8476f291dbe41126

i think bb on corv could be slightly better against pon but i liked the support against physical attackers more, and pult is faster anyway and i thought if pon is running trailblaze its giving up either play rough or powerwhip and so dozo beats it

[queen saddle]

you need some more boots

[noble hare]

i dont really know where to put em tho w.o sacrificing other mus

[queen saddle]

Blissey should be wearing boots

I think Pex should too

[noble hare]

i need blakc sludge pex to discourage trick

well not need

[queen saddle]

Dondozo runs either or but I’ve had a Dondozo beat me down bc I could never knock those boots

[noble hare]

but i like it a lot

[queen saddle]

fair, but what if they just stack 500 hazards

and your pex cant come back in without needing a heal anyways

[noble hare]

fair if they do

[queen saddle]

also they could trick that sludge onto smb else so thats risky

I get it

dw

[noble hare]

yea ig

[queen saddle]

but risky

[elfin quail]

https://pokepast.es/a939b41f2b72b6a4

how is this team?

[queen saddle]

just run seismic toss blissey and use gliscor to beat it

[noble hare]

i definitely want lefties dozo tho as its rest w.o sleep talk so it needs some extra healing to survive attacks, lefties blissey was mainly for ww or similar but i have tera water

[queen saddle]

when I say it I meant ghold btw

mb

[noble hare]

e.g 5 fainted gambit

[noble hare]

oh yea

[queen saddle]

now to ask about the most important thing

what’s with

the cb dragapult

on a stall doing

[noble hare]

it was meant to be a kinda meme but it turned out to be fine and im climbing with it

[queen saddle]

hm

you kinda need a rocker tho

or else ur struggling with other flyings

np Tornt even if you keep shadow ball on bliss

forcing recovery on blissey

until you run out

then they use np bleakwind grass knot and it’s gg’s

unless ur band pult can revenge

[nocturne sable]

I think you can make corv iron defense body press.

I think you can make prim rillaboom here. Glowking can already act as a water resist vs stuff like prim & walking wake. And rillaboom will give you strong priority making your MU into woger a bit better especially if you’re switching to idef corv.

I would also switch to psy noise gking over future sight to have a way of immediately hitting iron moth.

Outside of that seems standard

[queen saddle]

Rillaboom nerfs eq tho, that would be problematic

but ur right abt psy noise glowking too

and idef

[noble hare]

aside from blissey?

[queen saddle]

I didn’t see rocks blissey

mb I forgot

[noble hare]

oh np

[queen saddle]

Why does Blissey get that tho?

lol

[noble hare]

band pult revenges basically everything tho ngl

[nocturne sable]

Oh yea I forgot about that. Just run woger then

Or grasspon

[noble hare]

doing 40-50% on ghold with ddarts is

disposal

diabolical

[queen saddle]

Got it

[elfin quail]

https://pokepast.es/a939b41f2b72b6a4

how is this team

[queen saddle]

your team is fucking devious lmao

disable pult and whirlpool Alo

unfort I dont rlly know how to rate this

I feel like the tera types r wrong

[shrewd wyvern]

https://pokepast.es/2fd3135cc9b63290

How’s this team

[nocturne sable]

Ngl sets don’t make sense here.

No point in disable pult since you’re still walled by gambit. If you wanted to try cheese like that just run curse body or something.

AV Mola probably works better here than wish tect.

Make meow choice scarf here.

Then you probably want to make pult physdef to help with zama better.

For pult you should probably make it like a choice band or something.

[queen saddle]

I would run AV Gking

over Gweezing

and maybe utility pult over specs

since you have breakin power with Ttar

[shrewd wyvern]

I see okay bet aside from those anything else?

[queen saddle]

I see a struggle in the woger matchup

really seems solid tho

anything else I’m not sure of unless you have any problems yourself

[shrewd wyvern]

U think if switch molt for a defensive zaptos that could work

Well not work but will help with the issue

[queen saddle]

yeah likely

[shrewd wyvern]

Okay I’ll do that then

[dusk shore]

https://pokepast.es/a3c0e88b4fc09a7a

first time trying to build a stall team, would love any suggestions

[shell knoll]

new here

https://pokepast.es/8d01a4699103b796 hows this team?

[queen saddle]

you don’t have hazard control but use lots of hazard weak mons without boots

And also Gking should run trick with black sludge or if you really want recovery, lefties

should be boots tho

running sand and terrain feels a little counterintuitive

[shell knoll]

Oh yeah rillaboom wasn't really a constant

Kept swapping mons in and out of that slot cause nothing fit

[shell knoll]

Oh ok

[queen saddle]

you could also just run Corviknight over Alo for the Woger weak team

and run Great Tusk over that blank slot

Or even Excadrill

[shell knoll]

I ran excadrill but swapped him after a loss forgot why

[shell knoll]

Woger weak? Sorry I don't understand 😅

[queen saddle]

You could try Excadrill/Treads and use a defensive Zapdos to help vs Woger over that Alo

[queen saddle]

Ogerpon Wellspring

[shell knoll]

Oh ok

[queen saddle]

and maybe smth else over Za

[shell knoll]

Who would I switch out for zapdos

[queen saddle]

Za is taking life orb chip along with sand

[queen saddle]

Alo

The fish

[shell knoll]

That I got dw 😂

[shell knoll]

Hmm true

[queen saddle]

er I forgot about Glowking

[shell knoll]

I just had him with tera Stella cause he deal with a lot of stuff

[shell knoll]

Saw it on Smogon page and it looked fun

[queen saddle]

maybe make Glowking AV

assault vest

[shell knoll]

Ok

[queen saddle]

I’d like something over Zamazenta but idk

you already have a great speed control option in Dragapult

And Excadrill

with a bulky mon like ttar

which you could run more speed to speed creep base 50’s

since ur running low kick

[shell knoll]

Oo didn't think of that

[queen saddle]

you also have two defensive pivots but maybe you could use another one, or another mon that uses the sand chip with rocks to its advantage

not too sure

[shell knoll]

What if I get rid of sand and switch tyranitar to another Mon?

[queen saddle]

I’d just remake the team at that point

[shell knoll]

Ahh I see

Might just go back to using premade teams lol

[queen saddle]

Lol fair

[nocturne sable]

This team is kinda all over the place right now. What are you trying to build around specifically, sand or grassy terrain?

[shell knoll]

Probably sand

Cause tyranitar is cool

Rillaboom was just an experimental pick

That slot was always finicky so I was just putting random mons there to see what worked

[fickle magnet]

https://pokepast.es/f7a05442c362b739

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[proud herald]

just wanted to say the dragonite's nickname is great keep doing that

[fickle magnet]

tyty some of my best work

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/263fda1e3583c787

I’m thinking something like this.

Clefable+sand is a classic. Twave Ttar to cripple faster mons like kyurem, iron moth, darkrai, etc. AV mola to deal with stuff like gholdengo and just brainlessly click flip turn.

Then you have hydrapple which will help deal with stuff like woger. Excadrill for speed+hazard control and banded pult as your main breaker.

[nocturne sable]

Random AV torn on a HO team.

[shrewd condor]

https://pokepast.es/44c577edbf75fc1c imma be honest ion rly like the black glasses + tera dark with my hamu since i feel like i find tera water to be more useful in most situations for me. But this is a nuke/setup so samurott can sweep but i just wanna know if theres any way to make this team better maybe switch out some mons? I js want my samurott to be more threatening

[wooden linden]

https://pokepast.es/530c1937b1f8cfd3
I'd recommend this here. If youre running mystic tera water you may as well run aqua jet. Araqs since youre fine vs hazard blockers like hatt and such anyways

I also made ghold tera steel metal coat since it lets you break stall very easily

[elfin quail]

https://pokepast.es/5f90da737cfeaad7

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[final relic]

make dnite boots flyingblast

glim should be tera ghost

tusk always max speed here id also make it bulk up

drop spikes on glimmora

[shrewd condor]

https://pokepast.es/d10d1b3f6190d078 im using this atm should i use ur paste?

ive used this one fir some time and its fun my hamu can nuke pretty well

[shrewd condor]

i js dont want a team thats hamu x support but more like hamu nuke x support/strong on its own yk

[elfin quail]

y no spikes?

[final relic]

glim only has room for 1 hazard since it wants all of mortal spin earth power and power gem to be even somewhat threatening

[elfin quail]

what if i just wanna use it for hazards?

[final relic]

then ting lu is a better option

it’s really the only pokemon that can get away with both hazards on the same mon

[elfin quail]

ok

what set should i use with it

@final relic

[final relic]

ruin whirlwind spikes rocks has been used

[elfin quail]

could i use landorus therian as a entry hazard?

instead of glimora?

[shrewd condor]

https://pokepast.es/d10d1b3f6190d078 can anyone help this team

tryna make hamurott a nuke/ setup but is this good? i want my hamurott to be more sweep potential

its fun water tera and nuking their team

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/218b531670f6b4bf

[nocturne sable]

I’m ngl you already had 3 raters rate this team

I advice you refrain from reposting the same team multiple times when raters already gave you advice on the team

[livid yew]

https://pokepast.es/358000459bb324cb

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[livid yew]

I tried building around samurott is this good

[inner terrace]

i think you'd rather av torn over av hatt

and then wisp pult

you can run twave ghold if you want so you have double status but not entirely needed

i just think wisp is nice cause boots tusk and sd samu only answer to gambit is losing long term

[worthy moss]

https://pokepast.es/eefb1a065ab37b58 any tips? dou

[livid yew]

Ok thanks I'll see

Torn like ferrothorn ?

Oh tornadus

[nocturne sable]

If this is doubles OU then wrong channel

#1051236342740308089 doubles OU should be there

[worthy moss]

my bad

[wooden linden]

Dont really see glimm being well off here.
https://pokepast.es/ba4d4583dc2bdc77

I decided to optimize some spreads a little quickly with bold gholdengo being a better mu vs zama and val

Bolt is here for some priority water resist and handing flying types

[shrewd condor]

im using this rn after revision and some games https://pokepast.es/8c5893bde87e148e

i lowk like choice scarf on samurott

lets me hit first and i can get faster nukes off

[wooden linden]

https://pokepast.es/0575682d8c3d982f
I looked over the team and made some changes here

[shrewd condor]

thanks 🙏

[shrewd condor]

whats the point of no gholdengo if im tryna setup/nuke sweep with hamu

and isnt the team a bit slow?

[wooden linden]

You have a scarf samu youre fine

And the hamu can only really clean not set up

Np ghold is a set up mon

[shrewd condor]

see

i see

so the scarf is what lets hamu sweep essentially for this and there r two u turns for hamu to keep pressuring and nuking?

and flip turn is for hamu to safely dodge and continue ig

is that right

or am i js making things up

[patent pilot]

https://pokepast.es/8a7b405fe2186f1d

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[patent pilot]

Blaziken BO

[nocturne sable]

Looks fairly standard. Might make blaziken Tera fire though since it’s more spammable

[fickle moth]

https://pokepast.es/fb9caf24088331f4 little balance team I made for kyurem use

[pale blade]

https://pokepast.es/43e9b0684fb81a51 made a team around falinks, thought i could use a funny strategy

[regal ginkgo]

Hey @pale blade, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9legendszaou team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1060682530094862477 instead.

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/ad138267aeafd51a

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Specs kyurem+av torn with only helmet tusk as removal is kinda crazy, you super lose to Hazard stack big time.

I would make alomomola pain split hatt.

Drop icy rock on glowking idk why we are running that. Change it to boots

[jade cedar]

I know the team feels like a hot mess but I need opinions https://pokepast.es/099edaccb0ac3de8 , I had in mind av hatt instead of av prima is it good tho?

@nocturne sable

[nocturne sable]

You’re mixing a few playstyles here. I don’t think an av prim and skarm would fit on the same types of teams imo.

Lowkey you can just make AV prim AV mola instead for better longevity.

https://pokepast.es/3bd26e736d77f90f

messed around with the builder and ended up with something like this.

Dont think you really need skarmorys spikes here. So just make it defog corv here. Gambit Mu shouldn’t be too bad since you have tusk+scarf rai & enam as dark resist. Changed enam to scarf for better rai mu

[jade cedar]

was lowkey going for hs

[nocturne sable]

Hstack with what, specs enam as the wincon?

[jade cedar]

ye it and ghold for clean up

[queen saddle]

https://pokepast.es/7554a50225f271c4

Wanted to build a balance w CB Hoopa

sorta old team

Weak to Woger kinda

I dont remember if I posted but if I did not, would like a rater to tell me what they think

I made Glis SD EQ to beat Ghold since pure knock isnt enough

and tickle Alo bc that helps a little with the woger matchup

No idea how to beat it effectively tho

[inner terrace]

i'ts like fine as an idea but i feel like you want more pivots

so like

pech over ghold, crown over garg, ace over weez

kinda stuff

and uturn scor

kinda weak to gambit though

prolly want a zama somewhere

so maybe over crown?

no steel is rough but i think you have ace mola

can make mola av btw

[distant tree]

https://pokepast.es/beaa138cee3004d1
feels like smtg is off but idk

Band ttr knock of hits hard

[topaz pivot]

https://pokepast.es/4311f2cc08557e43

[regal ginkgo]

Hey @topaz pivot, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9vgc team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059704283072831499 instead.

[topaz pivot]

i have not tested this out at all yet

so any better picks would definitely be welcome

[nocturne sable]

Wrong channel

[topaz pivot]

crap true

[fickle moth]

I was running icy rock for longer snow so I can spam blizzard more

[mental ermine]

https://pokepast.es/fe539ada7b2dc9c5 tried making a webs team for chandelure lol would like some feedback for mainly the other mons cuz chandelure's obv the feature :P

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hardy crown]

https://pokepast.es/965057d810a251e6
Got quite a bit of success with this

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[queen saddle]

I mean this

in the most respectful way possible

what the fuck am I looking at

[hardy crown]

An amalgamation of a doubles player playing singles

[queen saddle]

slow ass bulky enam thats walled by pech and gets chipped each time by rocks

whatever the FUCK is that Pelipper stat spread and moveset

125 speed isnt even real

SWORDS DANCE KOMMO-O.

not throat spray, not idef, not clangorous soul or wtv its called

swords dance.

[hardy crown]

randomly found the move in its movepool i guess

[queen saddle]

I cant even say anything this team
is not good to say the least
each mon in your team has a mon that does their job better

by like 100x

the ev spreads are

not okay.

[hardy crown]

Hmhm

[queen saddle]

I think you should grab yourself a sample team

[inner terrace]

yo im not sure about this one

[hardy crown]

i did

[inner terrace]

you generally want slower uturns btw

with peli

gren and keld are fine mons

i'd change the enam for torn

like specs or lorb torn is really strong on rain

[queen saddle]

Keld and Gren lowkey have low damage output, mainly Gren even w lorb

it needs to be a cleaner if anything

[inner terrace]

then use treads over tusk

[queen saddle]

and Keld should be maybe specs bc it’s too weak without specs in OU

It’s insane how weak it is genuinely

[hardy crown]

why treads tho

[queen saddle]

typing vs

[inner terrace]

raging bolt

[queen saddle]

big boss raging bolt

yes

[inner terrace]

idk if the kommo-o is a good set

or how much work it puts in

if it works well so far you dont have to change anything ig until it starts to show some weaknesses

so it's up to you

clearly something is working if you're getting success with it

[hardy crown]

Like
The kommo-o just
Swords dance, scale shot once or twice to get some speed and just spam drain punch

[inner terrace]

interesting

does kommo-o get any water move

[hardy crown]

No

[inner terrace]

hm

i mean hey it works

[alpine hornet]

ok first thing to note here is a lot of ur evs are off, everything should be a multiple of 4

aside from that this team is a little all over the place u have a couple strong ideas but if ur going standard ho u should stick with it and if ur going rain u should stick with it

[alpine hornet]

also lowk no reason to be an ass in the rates channel mfs be saying “no offense” then being mean for no reason ✌️

but yeah uh sample is also what i’d suggest

idt there are any rain samples rn but i can pass u smt if ur thinking smt more that angle

[gritty lake]

We are using the wrong sd scale shot guy 🥀

[nocturne sable]

I think this just a classic vgc player transitioning to singles.

Some of the ideas aren’t bad here, but you can’t really afford to be mixing playstyles in singles like in doubles since there won’t be enough mons on the field to benefit from that+tailwind support is singles is basically only 2 turns since you have to waste a turn setting it up and pivoting to your abuser.

AV Enamorus is an interesting concept, unexplored and could maybe trade into a few special attackers like darkrai pult torn etc but generally there are more established & reliable AV users than enamorus. Enam is most choice specs or choice scarf special attacking set(life orb too on web teams).

Scale shot kommo-o is generally outclassed by other dragons like kyurem dragonite garchomp etc but hey anything can cheese past on ladder these days. Kommo-o is usually with its clangorous soul set up set with either throat spray or rest chesto berry.

But generally not bad ideas though. Greninja+peli & keldeo is a good start. I think you can look at this rain RMT as it showcases how there are plenty of good options to have on a rain team.

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/peaked-3-2028-elo-soul-of-rain.3777177/

[mental ermine]

https://pokepast.es/fe539ada7b2dc9c5 tried making a webs team for chandelure lol would like some feedback for mainly the other mons cuz chandelure's obv the feature :P

[nocturne sable]

Feels weird having moth and chandelure on the same team cuz it’s almost like both mons are very similar in what they do. Both high special attacking fire types trying to nuke with overheat.

Idk what psychic and energy ball is suppose to hit. But you would rather want a more reliable and spammable fire move besides overheat like flamethrower for example. Chandelure can also run trick so you can look into that. Can help vs slower priority users like kingambit & raging bolt for example.

Don’t really like Hamurott and the tusk set here as they don’t really fit the pace of webs ho. Tusk should probably be booster attack with either 3 attacks(cc/head smash as last coverage) or bulk up. In this case I would experiment with bulk up booster attack.

I would probably just drop Hamurott for something like specs enamorus here.

Maybe glimmora>>iron moth for a flying resist against stuff like tornadus Zapdos etc. you can run the power herb meteor beam set.

You can also make rai lefties nasty plot.

[mental ermine]

Ok cool I def think my main problem with making webs teams is I'll forget the pace and throw in the mon that don't really fit it lol

I had energy ball and psychic for a reason I'll just need to check my notes again when I can

Oh and I've seen lefties rai before but I've never understood why since its not particularly the most bulky thing ever

[nocturne sable]

Lefties rai is just nice for a little longevity

Since you have glimmora and tusk for hazard removal+specs enamorus for power I thought maybe you can afford to run lefties rai

[mental ermine]

Alr cool

And which move should I drop for nasty plot

[nocturne sable]

Hmm I’m thinking just run nasty plot dark pulse sludge bomb ice beam

[mental ermine]

That's what I was thinking as well,I had it as a counter to kingambit cuz at the point of building I was at the gambit matchup didn't look good but I have great tusk so it shouldn't be that bad anymore

[nocturne sable]

Yea great tusk should generally be good for gambit

• if you use trick on chandelure it can play around kingambit sucker punch

[mental ermine]

oh yeah true

[mental ermine]

also i remember now the energy ball was for opposing hamurott cuz lure cant touch it with its stab otherwise

do you think thats worth running over trick/thrower or no

oh and why run head smash over something like stone edge? (sorry for all the questions)

[swift river]

https://pokepast.es/22d02cd8e35b367c i finally decided to try team building, im doing ok with the team but im kind of low ladder (1200s) so like that doesnt really mean anything, just want some thoughts on it

[nocturne sable]

Oh makes sense. I can see energy ball being an option but I think overheat+shadow ball+trick should stay

[mental ermine]

alr

[nocturne sable]

More power+slighty better accuracy

[mental ermine]

fair

[nocturne sable]

Hmm this looks almost okay outside of the random alomomola here on a screens HO team.

You can make Ogerpon adamant nature with trailblaze as your grass move here for the speed boost. Since you have screens you can afford to set up SDs and click trailblaze. Kingambit is fine but usually it runs 44 speed for something like Blissey but that’s pretty minor.

Drop alomomola here for something like BU booster tusk and the team should be fine enough.

(Bu stands for bulk up btw)

[swift river]

alright yeah thanks i most ran mola as a way to heal my guys but im willing to try BU booster tusk

[topaz pivot]

same accuracy no?

[rancid valley]

did i do well on making a good balance team? https://pokepast.es/f2356f12ca5a1755

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[inner terrace]

looks okay

[swift forum]

there isn't really a guy that eats special attacks on your team, and i don't think no sd gambit is very good

[final relic]

low kick iron head not jolly is nonsense

you also need max hazards to really justify cm knock off clef

[swift forum]

yeah you should probably put a spikes ting lu over the gambit and maybe make the dnite bulkier, like roost

[blissful basin]

does it look good?

https://pokepast.es/f3f4509d9bdef36a i tired my hand at a rain team

[topaz pivot]

if your team is dependent on rain prob go for damp rock

also you might not want a fire move on volcanion considering you have rain up

although you dont have that many mons that really take advantage of rain

[mental ermine]

landorus in rain isnt that great, gets wrecked by your average water type mon

[nocturne sable]

Oh yea mb they are the same accuracy lol

But yea head smash is significant more power

[inner terrace]

oh shi i didnt even realize gambit wasnt sd LOL

[inner terrace]

id say it's less of a rain team and more of an offense with specs toed as a breaker

gambit is very strong vs this

not a fan of the structure in general though, i feel like for a team like this you might want specs poli with some gking tusk zap

maybe poli tinka tusk zap pon zama or something

or gking over tinka

[copper rover]

https://pokepast.es/c55720ae8abab050 my buddys team, just need some help with fixing his team

[flat jackal]

https://pokepast.es/8ac827a4cfb2685f

hazard greninja

a lil bit too frail id say

[limber crystal]

https://pokepast.es/1458f12869e45c38

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[compact burrow]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-2535425653-kqfh40l03qodlt5ysostxd7eb5768kkpw

ez

[alpine hornet]

ok so a few things here -
thunder punch doesn’t hit anything on uoopa, ud rather have gunk/knock/ice punch

wpolicy is a wasted item on gambit, only really valid on guys who cant otherwise setup/stored power abusers and even then its iffy

slowbro’s set is wack if ur running this guy u wanna plot, also your ivs are suboptimal, unless you hp is more than the sum of ur defenses invest in hp before both defenses if possible

[lavish juniper]

You're right

[alpine hornet]

small tidbits aside this team doesn’t go that well together, you could probably drop glowbro for glowking and drop hoopa for rott or something but

[lavish juniper]

I only play slowbro cus its my fav pokemon

[alpine hornet]

there’s a distinct lack of synergy i would lowk recommend a sample

[alpine hornet]

if slowbro’s the mon you care about here

[lavish juniper]

And also hoopa so idk

[alpine hornet]

i can also point you towards a classic glowbro team that’s done pretty well

[lavish juniper]

Oh

[quartz lark]

Reaction score of 90 in SV OU rates.

[copper rover]

https://pokepast.es/c55720ae8abab050

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[copper rover]

buddy of mines team i’m helping him touch up on

[nocturne sable]

I mean technically hoopa runs electric coverage for waters.

But usually you would run tbolt with like av or something yea not Cb

[nocturne sable]

Looks normal. Standard volt turn combos I see here.

The problem here is your hazard situation. Solo Court change cinderace with max hazards is kinda anti synergy since you’ll not remove hazards vs opposing hazard stack teams.

Maybe make woger SD grassy glide instead of utility spikes. You can also change this to choice band tealpon and make rillaboom Swords dance.

You can probably make ace will o wisp too

Since you already have a lot of priority users here

[alpine hornet]

on band u hit all the waters harder w dark moves av is a different ballpark

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/82ef27a66d57a887 people can I make woger hold grassy glide instead of power whip?

[copper rover]

word, appreciate you

[lavish juniper]

I was the 90th

[limber crystal]

https://pokepast.es/5b6d55131f1a8cc2

[golden reef]

really been struggling again to pick a team for laddering I came up with this any adjustments to make maybe switch a Mon ? https://pokepast.es/8b90703a6d639681

[nocturne sable]

Pretty confident that I have seen that exact same team comp on ladder. You sure you got this from builder?

[limber crystal]

I built it just now

I wanted to build around wellspring

[nocturne sable]

Oh well I have this exact 6 before on ladder lol so you should be fine with this

[limber crystal]

you got no idea how happy this makes me 😭

[golden reef]

sarje making it out the slums

❤️‍🩹

[golden reef]

@nocturne sable help would be much appreciated thank you

[nocturne sable]

Lowkey in the car rn but I will come back to this for sure

[golden reef]

thank you whenever you can it's time ^

[quartz lark]

Inhabitants of SV OU rates, SV OUians, Jirachi in SV OU?

Jirachi @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Serene Grace
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Iron Head
• Thunder Punch
• Encore
• U-turn

[swift forum]

nah if you want something to hit corv use thunder instead, better para chance and doesn't make contact

also helmet is probably not the set

leftovers seems much better since if you're flinching the opponent it gets much more value

but jira is bad in ou anyways, you would much rather use crown the vast majority of the time

the only jira set i think actually has merit is doom desire

like a year ago i used to run doom desire jirachi + tera dragon banded pult + magnezone and it was ok but i was a lot worse back then

[quartz lark]

So I just run Jirachi in rain

But rain is bad in the current gen

I just like helmet to punish u turns

Especially from stuff like corv

And iron head is all I really care about in Jirachi anyway

Another cool thing is Jirachi’s pivot can’t be blocked but crown doesn’t get u turn

It also doesn’t get encore and is slower than Jirachi

Then if corv teras I just iron head

[low phoenix]

Can anyone tell me which specs volcanion team looks better?

https://pokepast.es/8804e8fc7ed7786b

https://pokepast.es/da6f13b267bab6eb

https://pokepast.es/af8f6fb27bf6027d

Specs volc has been fun but trying to support him is a lot of work…

[quartz lark]

You like specs volc don’t you

[quartz lark]

Use the second one. I was thinking of something good for blissey

[low phoenix]

hoping to wait for a rater for this

[quartz lark]

Usually three teams aren’t rated simultaneously

[nocturne sable]

Okay so first of all I think this is the classic type of offense that stacks 4 or more mons weak to fairy. I think darkrai, Ival, tusk & gambit. Maybe make gambit Tera fire to patch up the fairy MU.

Indeedee feels very random here. Iron crown doesn’t need indeedee here it can function on its own fine. Just run the regular stored power calm mind if you want to stick to booster spam.

Iron valiant set feels weird here. Just run standard mixed iron valiant with destiny bond to help trade into mons.

Lastly I would just replace indeedee here for a proper suicide lead. Colbur berry Deoxys speed with stealth rocks can work here.

Actually I just peeped that you’re focus blast rai here. Drop it for sludge bomb

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/3fca7eb1ba0d550f did some changes on this

[patent pilot]

Scope lens oger?

[nocturne sable]

IMO rain being bad is very overblown

[swift forum]

never said in rain

[quartz lark]

Kind of just a given at this point

[swift forum]

no it's not?

[patent pilot]

Why would you use thunder putside of rain

[quartz lark]

Thunder is like hurricane but worse due to the drawback

[swift forum]

high para chance

[quartz lark]

At least with cane it’s 30% confuse

[nocturne sable]

??? What drawback

30% chance to para

[patent pilot]

Just use thunder punch

Nobody likes missing moves

[swift forum]

does thunder punch have a 30% chance to para?

you don't need to hit all the time

it's coverage for corv/alo

which you're doing like 40 with thunder punch anyways

[patent pilot]

Mixed attacker jirachi sounds like shit

[swift forum]

para is much more impactful

[quartz lark]

By drawback I mean reward but I have to run that rachi in rain

[regal ginkgo]

Thunder Punch (Gen 9)

Has a 10% chance to paralyze the target.

Type

Electric

Category

Physical

Power

75

Accuracy

100

PP

15 (24)

Priority

0

Target

Any adjacent

Flags

• Makes contact.
• Can be selected by Metronome.
• Can be copied by Mirror Move.
• Blocked by protection moves.
• Power is multiplied by 1.2 when used by a Pokemon with the Iron Fist Ability.

[patent pilot]

Tpunch also has a para chance with serene grace

So

[swift forum]

yeah lower

22% lower

if you take into account accuracy

[quartz lark]

I rather just go full physical attack

[swift forum]

252 Atk Jirachi Thunder Punch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 96-114 (24 - 28.5%) -- 97% chance to 4HKO

[quartz lark]

Mhm hm

[swift forum]

0- SpA Jirachi Thunder vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Corviknight: 162-192 (40.6 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0- spa

[quartz lark]

Mhm hm

And I run rain

[patent pilot]

Why are we using offensive jirachi anyways

[quartz lark]

Iron head

All I really care about

Tbh

[patent pilot]

You're better off using jirachi as a wish passer

[quartz lark]

Shit is ass ngl

[patent pilot]

Its offensive are mid

[nocturne sable]

1st one is my type of structures.

2nd one is meh too slow for my liking but ig Tealpon can also carry. Scope lens teal pon is interesting I wonder what the crit rate of cudgel will be with it.

3rd one is probably the most solid structure to support volcanion imo. Zapdos Scor treads form a nice pivot core

[quartz lark]

In ou at least

[patent pilot]

Jirachi is ass regardless sadly

[quartz lark]

Yeah sadge

[patent pilot]

GAME FREAK

MAKE JIRACHI STEEL/FAIRY

AND MY LIFE

IS YOURSSSS

[nocturne sable]

What are we even yapping about at this point 💔💔💔💔

[quartz lark]

They really put crown when rachi exists

[patent pilot]

Lil J

[quartz lark]

Why they do this to my guy

Said you’re fired

[nocturne sable]

Jirachi is not ass even though it’s not as dominant as it was in other generations is still finds a place in most metagames

Even if it’s a niche one

[quartz lark]

Yes

Iron head having a 60% chance to flinch and being stab is always nice

Love that shit

[patent pilot]

Steel/Psychic kinda holds it back

It would be kinds good if not for that

[quartz lark]

For sure

Doesn’t use zen headbutt

[patent pilot]

Like i could def see jirachi having a defensive place in the meta

If not for that psychic type

[nocturne sable]

Steel psychic is not a bad typing.

Regardless of the nerfs steel got in Ora’s it’s still a decent typing

[patent pilot]

Did i say its bad or did i say it holds it back

[quartz lark]

Jirachi team coming soon from yours truly

[nocturne sable]

It typing is literally not the thing holding it back

[quartz lark]

Gonna work on that when I have the time

[nocturne sable]

It’s the fact that power levels have significantly increased this Gen

[quartz lark]

Gonna make Jirachi Great Again

Give it a second prime

Like Luka gave LeBron

[swift forum]

bro talking like he at the top of the ladder

[quartz lark]

[patent pilot]

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

• U-turn
• Wish
• Iron Head
• Doom Desire

Trust

[swift forum]

nah spdef better for kyurem

[patent pilot]

MMMMM

You right

And valiant

[quartz lark]

I’m gonna build two versions then

Prob

Yo watch me get on the board with Jirachi

That would be funny ngl

[patent pilot]

252 SpA Choice Specs Darkrai Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jirachi: 290-344 (71.7 - 85.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Choice Specs Darkrai Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Slowking-Galar: 272-324 (69 - 82.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[quartz lark]

Light work

[low phoenix]

1st one is a little weak to great tusk. 3rd one struggles with offensive zama

[nocturne sable]

You have helmet tusk to chip down opposing tusk so you should be fine. Maybe you can make Tinkaton max attack with like ice hammer to limit switch ins

[quartz lark]

qrash are you gonna be up until 10 pm est

[nocturne sable]

And as for offensive zama I’m thinking you can lowkey try tech like tera poison volcanion to play around zama

[nocturne sable]

Why

[quartz lark]

I’m gonna speed build some rachi teams

In about 20 mins

[quartz lark]

Jirachi in OU?!
https://pokepast.es/c7e28f914e00d84d

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

I’m sorry but I fail to see any synergy here.

[quartz lark]

Went with the doom desire route for rachi. Wanted to account for Corv, Tres, Dos so i built with that in mind.

[nocturne sable]

What even benefits from doom desire here, maybe zama but that’s about it

[quartz lark]

Ursa to force out the aformentioned then woger for utility

[nocturne sable]

Ursa is not immediately scaring corv

And no rocks is kinda wack

[quartz lark]

I prob just force tera and punish u-turns with talonflame after i doom desire into u turn with rachi

[golden reef]

here's what I did then https://pokepast.es/a54d601592653d92 I'll lay off psyspam should I js keep crown or replace ? also the EVs on everything is fine right also I'm thinking about replacing great tusk with iron treads if it'll work but prob is I feel like I'll get easily walled

[nocturne sable]

Ehhh I don’t really like iron treads here over tusk. I think BU tusk has better breaking potential.

Also am I tripping or does your iron crown have 252 252 6hp EVs?

[golden reef]

you're not tripping 😭

[nocturne sable]

How is that possible lol

[golden reef]

I dont even know ...

lemme check wait so8

😭

@nocturne sable

[nocturne sable]

Interesting

[golden reef]

I fee like it's a bug

feel 😭

yeah it's at 6

[golden reef]

https://pokepast.es/8523ed86a406627f I feel like it'll get walled easily

[limber spear]

i think the extra 2 evs r just neglected cuz 510 cant be divided by 4 (like without decimal)

[nocturne sable]

I think tusk should be fine

[blissful basin]

what could i fix/change?
https://pokepast.es/846fe2ba883bc619

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Very interesting team. Triple ghost+Hstack is a nasty combo.

The think with flamigo is that although scrappy & upper hand is cool I think gapdoz would be generally better here since it has access to knock off

Solo taunt Lando as your go to against hazards is kinda wack lowkey since Lu just kinda comes in on your ghost types and click hazards for free.

I like the uniqueness of triple ghost but I would probably drop one of the ghost types for another hazard control option like hatterene then make Lando Tera ghost for a tertiary spin blocker.

I’m curious how has this team worked out for you so far?

[blissful basin]

uhh its about 7W - 4L

those 4 losses came from sticky webs and samu ceaseless edge

leftovers or boots? on my great tusk?

[nocturne sable]

Makes sense your hazard mu is kinda rough

Maybe you can try clear body pult for webs

[blissful basin]

alr

[quartz lark]

Jirachi in OU?!
https://pokepast.es/3c6c8f8926ca9015

Overhauled the last team cause it was some shit.

[queen saddle]

https://pokepast.es/c85192f7a397ae92

Nvm Im deleting allat it looks like spam

but lmk ur thoughts on the team

[tired gazelle]

I just was wondering how to make a fun team that can gain strenght from using moves on them

[young gust]

https://pokepast.es/117aae8f63f6edcb how is my team

[digital sonnet]

Opposing kyurem and opposing wellspring look rough

Also ceruledge so I’d say atleast make alo tera normal

[queen saddle]

Holy shit my team is weak to Prim

Kinda forced to tera poison vs prim lowk

[young gust]

Alr thx

[queen saddle]

Changed tera to grass for Prim btw

[slender compass]

Who would be good to pair with gholdengo?

[queen saddle]

oh yeah your team literally gets 6’0ed by tera water SD Pon with play rough

unless you have prior chip on Pon

[patent pilot]

Arent most sd pon knock off though

[queen saddle]

Maybe, but the set that’s recommended whenever you click sd Pon is

SD
Ivy Cudgel
Power Whip
Play Rough

[patent pilot]

Most of the reccomended sets are unoptimized

[queen saddle]

Still, play rough is quite the viable option

Knock is more for utility

But play rough gives a lot more offense to Pon

[wide girder]

https://pokepast.es/fb75a413e3f0bbea Hi, I'm trying to build a team for OU and I'm aiming for the top ladder. Could you help me improve it, please?

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[livid yew]

https://pokepast.es/48338e60ec4cd689

Is this a good team

[inner terrace]

not enough speed control but i can see the vision

scarf washtom maybe

run a stronger dnite set imo

you already have sucker gambit so any tera blast set is fine

[quartz lark]

Yo @patent pilot I finished making the Jirachi team

[wide girder]

The classic Tera Blast Fly?

[inner terrace]

tb fly or tb fairy are fine

or even tera ground dd

[wide girder]

you leqjel

[nocturne sable]

Wait wrong team

[nocturne sable]

I don’t like booster moth on structures like this. Rather you just run specs or spatk booster.

[quartz lark]

Does this utilize doom desire enough?

[inner terrace]

honestly

could run deoxys over moth

you do want a better zama mu

[quartz lark]

Or is it just a worse fsight

[inner terrace]

while also more speed

[wide girder]

Okay, so if I list the changes, there's: Rotom Scarf, Dragonite Tera Blast Fairy, and changing Iron Moth to Deoxys Speed ?

[inner terrace]

yeah think thats ok

[inner terrace]

this team is fine

[wide girder]

Okay, I'll make the changes and show you?

[inner terrace]

it's a bit slow for my liking but pivots + broken specs mon is pretty solid

broken not as in needs to be banned but does unhinged damage and isnt that slow/frail

[inner terrace]

sure

[wide girder]

https://pokepast.es/6e137ddc5ef38ac7

I will listen to all your advice

Deoxys specs ?

@inner terrace

[inner terrace]

no need for ice spinner on dnite

can run roost or encore

or rock slide ig

[wide girder]

Ok

[inner terrace]

also on the deoxys set one sec

uh

do you have the eject pack spikes set

it's the one in the volcanion pech sample team

[wide girder]

Wait, I'm going to go get it.

That ? Deoxys-Speed @ Eject Pack
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 200 Atk / 252 SpA / 56 Spe
Naive Nature

• Psycho Boost
• Superpower
• Knock Off
• Spikes

[slender compass]

What should I change about this doubles OU team?
https://pokepast.es/40f27b1a36d17c20

[wide girder]

https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059655497587888158

[wide girder]

Found it, then what do I change?

https://pokepast.es/3624544130af367d

[inner terrace]

just test it

[wide girder]

Ok

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-2536374652

[patent pilot]

Why are you using EQ on dnite with rillaboom?

[quartz lark]

Rilla improves valiant mu and Earthquake is for general damage without tera

[queen saddle]

https://pokepast.es/621ae8c18ea086f9

[patent pilot]

Atp just use like, fire punch

Isnt nullified by your own grassy terrain, still hits steels

Struggles into tran but you also have zama so 🤷

[quartz lark]

Ight Im gonna use that over eq

[quartz lark]

If no one rates you tonight my time i gotchu tommorow

[digital sonnet]

I think you said earlier but prim straight 6-0s this

Maybe moltres for zapdos then iron hands for something to help out with the matchup atleast a little bit

Also no ice resist so kyurem comes in and probably gets a kill

[queen saddle]

I’m just gonna tera poison Samu or tera grass Moltres vs it

bc lowk it’s gg’s otherwise

this team has a pretty good matchup into a lot of things, but Prim really makes me struggle

I’d say Wake too kinda

also wdym no ice resist

I have sp def Tres for Kyurem, and an AV Samu

And even a sp def Treads, while not as helpful

tanks a hit from nearly anything and gets a knock off

or even rocks

Also hands 1v1’s all variants mainly of Kyurem besides specs

even if it was specs Hands doesn’t get koed by it I think

but it cant switch on it

[digital sonnet]

Samu doesn’t wanna tank a freeze dry even subtect kyurem has a decent chance to 2hko

[queen saddle]

Drain punch and lefties assures hands can 1v1

and Moltres does, it eats freeze dry

Breakfast lunch and dinner

and flamethrower is solid chip that it doesn’t want to take along with hazards

[livid yew]

Is it about my team ? And if yes what do you think I could use

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/bb83ab90e50c654c is this good?

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[queen saddle]

seems solid, have you tested your team out by now?

You have a pretty great defensive core

and good win cons

solid speed control

[jade cedar]

to be honest just made it, is the stall mu good tho?

[queen saddle]

I think you would struggle slightly with Kyurem

Namely specs

Subtect kinda

[queen saddle]

It should be, might struggle a little with Dozo tho

you also don’t have a way of hitting Glis super effectively I think

I think knocking a bunch with Clef and getting your hazards up, or even letting the opponent get theirs as you court change it

gives you a solid chance with Clef as your win con as well

Clodsire is hard though

[jade cedar]

shouldn't dnite with EQ scare it away nad maybe even cripple it with encore?

[jade cedar]

I think ghold should give me an enough breathing room to handle specs, idk about subtect tho

[queen saddle]

It’s just toxic spam

I always like having a toxic switch in that does good vs stall too

And Clef does do good

But again, Clod is hard

But yeah Ghold gives you good room w Kyurem

[jade cedar]

something like gambit

[jade cedar]

still is the team generally good? I rather be weak to something uncommon to a top mon, and to be honest half of my team can switch safely on a toxic so it's not hopeless

[quartz lark]

Sticky barb clef goes crazy for u-turn punishing.

Cuz I see no contact punishers otherwise

[queen saddle]

Yeah

Fosho

[jade cedar]

I mean is rocky helemt good on pech?

[quartz lark]

Eh

[queen saddle]

you’re trading chip for chip on yourself if hazards r up, it is sometimes but you gotta ask if it’s worth it

[jade cedar]

tbh not really, while the team is not overly weak to hazards I'm not going to make that worse by making my main physical tank weak to it

[quartz lark]

When the hazard control is impeccable, you can say things like that, but it's not here

[queen saddle]

It’s mainly just cinderace

The problem with rocky helmet is letting yourself take hazard chip as you come out into Woger

suddenly you’re 2HKOED by Ivy or even OHKEOD by +2 ivy

[jade cedar]

k then I'll stick with htb like I said

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/e723e8680dac43c3

[inner terrace]

i think thats just how it is honestly but yeah it's about yours

the team isnt bad though

[nocturne sable]

This team is fine but surely you would want speed evs on your iron hands here to outspeed slower stuff like gambit for example since you aren’t running trick room?

[nocturne sable]

Btw this just isn’t really true the team isn’t weak to kyurem when there’s a whole spdef moltres, iron treads and hands

[queen saddle]

Not a bad idea

But I do like the max HP namely due to the bulk given with it

But I’ll consider it, thanks

I’d like to ask if you know what to do vs the Prim matchup

My main win con I think is tera grass Moltres and roar it out with hazards up

chipping it until it’s in range of Pult

[inner terrace]

it is kinda weak to kyurem ngl

but it's totally playable

there are good teams with similar kyu matchups

[inner terrace]

it's cool but maybe gambit weak

i dont think it really needs changes though

but i would run like plot pech + zama over ace personally

[jade cedar]

that should be manageable with two EQ users and wisp

[jade cedar]

I need something for hazards

[inner terrace]

yea i mean you have enough to beat it as is but long term you can lose to it

cause lefties bulky gambit does kinda shred

[inner terrace]

you have 3 boots mons + magic guard and the mons that arent boots are trick scarf and neither of your bootslesses are weak to rocks on top of that

you have something for hazards

[jade cedar]

ye my team definitely isn't weak to hazards but that small constant chip can be game-changing

[inner terrace]

hm idk

i think theres teams with the same amount of hazard control that work very consistent

[jade cedar]

just like to be safe, I don't really like taking risks since my rng is as bad as it gets

[inner terrace]

but if you want to use ace maybe use lefties nite

[jade cedar]

the same set but with lefties?

[inner terrace]

yeah

tb fly/fairy both work

also make your clef tera steel

i think its better on cm knock cause you can work through sd scor teams easier

[jade cedar]

ok ig I'll test those sets, about the clef I just used the smogon set

[inner terrace]

i think fire is fine if you have flame but you want knock here

[jade cedar]

aren't both are weak to EQ?

[inner terrace]

knock eq sd scor isnt that good ngl

i know sometimes they run it but most of the time they run facade knock

eq knock also doesnt run tera ground to do a bunch of damage

but facade knock does run tera normal

[jade cedar]

ok ig

[nocturne sable]

In terms of subtect and AV spdef molt can handle it kinda

[inner terrace]

yeah i mean

doesnt need changes

but it is a bit kyu weak

a lotta teams are though and doesnt always matter as long as you play correctly

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/3dfcc485e359a2e2 feels a bit kyu weak

[queen saddle]

very offensive to say the least

it looks like it wants to be HO but then Pech feels wrong

and bulky Nite

Feels like you just want sweeper after sweeper

like an HO

not a bulky pivot that pivots only into a few mons

[jade cedar]

wasn't planning for it to be an HO

[queen saddle]

for this team

I mean completely offensive treads, sd val, lorb deo

It’s not pivoting into much

what’s your goal?

[jade cedar]

was more or less going for an offense team with pech as a slow pivot to turn in the sweepers and testing bulky dnite for set up sweepers (mostly physical)

[queen saddle]

I like bulky dnite for hazard stack

but it’s just rocks here

It’s somewhat? bulky but you’re struggling into things a lot

Dragapult

And lots of special threats

even woger if Pech is chipped

It feels a little messy

Offense to me is weird, because for me it’s either bulky offense or hyper offense

The term offense itself is just off to me

[jade cedar]

I mean to be honest I feel like I like some sort of answer to special threats, maybe something like av torn could work instead of dnite?

[queen saddle]

maybe, but you still kinda struggle to Kyu lowk

And even Pult if it’s banded

tera dark pech will help tho

strong fairy spam hits hard tho

since most fairies like ground coverage, aka Enam

[jade cedar]

tera steel should be good for that

[queen saddle]

Yeah

earth power hurts tho

You’ll need tera steel then knock

to remove a specs

or even lefties/boots

never melt ice

wtv that shit runs

[jade cedar]

wait that would mean that my team would have 3 knockers? is that good? or I need to give something like treads ice spinner?

[queen saddle]

knock is always awesome

but ice spinner helps

you can run it for Glis

[jade cedar]

ok thx for the help

[queen saddle]

yer

[jade cedar]

also quick question do know a tera ghost dnite set? I wanna test it on a team I'm making

[queen saddle]

just tera ghost tera blast and eq

with ddance and roost or espeed

usually roost tho

[jade cedar]

isn't there like low kick in the mix?

[queen saddle]

oh yeah

I dont usually see that set

bro Dnite

too many fucking sets

but I’ve seen low kick

I SAW FUCKING TWAVE SUPPORT DRAGONITE

[jade cedar]

it's not generally hated for no reason, 4 days ago I lost to a tera dark EQ set, with lum berry, yes with lum berry

[queen saddle]

bro

[jade cedar]

how did I know? got damaged from rocks+ didn't burn to a wisp

[queen saddle]

Yk I actually did run

tera ghost shadow claw ddance kyurem

walled by gambit? definitely

avoids revenges? for sure

Ironically I won a game had I not missed scale shot

[jade cedar]

I mean if you have good answers to gambit it should be fine

[quartz lark]

Looks like BO if anything

[final relic]

dd ghost blast low kick encore/roost is the usual

but its kinda awful

[quartz lark]

Jirachi Balance
https://pokepast.es/c43be34661359c18

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @magic dome. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[queen saddle]

very interesting team…

thunder iron head jirachi

Actually can do relatively solid if I think abt it

annoying but solid

flinch hax along with thunder to punish birds

also parahax

is wish worth running though?

You dont run much hp

also you have 4 mons immune to ground god damn

[quartz lark]

I thought of Wish+Tect to be perfect compliment for Life Orb Jirachi

[queen saddle]

Talonflame actually I might consider using, forget this gets defog

You could use more speed control

Val is relatively solid at it but eh

Pult wrecks this team

Hard

[queen saddle]

It’s a fair idea

but tect maybe not?

Wish is just not contributing too much for your team imo, you run too little hp

[quartz lark]

Gurantees Wish lands

[queen saddle]

you also run hp evs on every mon, wasting some speed

that bulk wont really matter due to how little it is

it’s weird to me really

this team feels, off to me as a balance

It’s not bad in the sense a lot of teams can be

but it feels off

a little cheesy with some mons namely Jirachi

and again, Pult kinda 6’0’s

Especially life orb since no need to be locked into a move

[quartz lark]

I built in the intention to be weak to as little types as possible, while also resisting every type and sometimes doubling or tripling on resistances.

Without Hydreigon, the team is weak to every type 1x time with a 2x weakness to Water.

[queen saddle]

you also have 4 ground immunities, but sun with Wake does make you struggle too

[nocturne sable]

Life orb Jirachi….

[queen saddle]

Hydreigon helps

but