SV OU Rates

[nocturne sable]

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[regal ginkgo]

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[cedar sentinel]

if u could that would be great and if not ill figure out it myself

i can use legendaries but not yet

[cedar sentinel]

https://pokepast.es/51401f72447ea08d

[nocturne sable]

The 6 mons aren’t bad but you need to adjust your evs & Tera types

Glowking should be max spdef.

Gliscor should be spikes knock off>>eq & u-turn since you already have double Regen+tusk.

I would also make darkrai choice scarf here for speed control.

You can lowkey drop mola for something like hydrapple to handle woger better

[cedar sentinel]

yea i made it quick to send the team here so i didnt really see the evs

[cedar sentinel]

alr thanks

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/bddfa60a5ce55b91 something like this

[nocturne sable]

You should test your team in the future then post it here!

[cedar sentinel]

yea sure

[distant tree]

https://pokepast.es/dd2f212f0996105e

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

U-turn swords dance is kinda anti synergy

Swords dance should be all out attack and U-turn is only used for like utility pon

Probably would make kingambit iron head>>low kick here

[distant tree]

Ic what u suggest there

[distant tree]

Ohki

[nocturne sable]

Evs are also kinda weird here.

Even if kingambit here is eved to survive great tusk headlong rush from full it’s still not worth taken like 80-90% from headlong just to proc weakness policy when more than half your team already pressures tusk anyways. Just change kingambit to like regular bulky hp leftovers gambit with iron head

As for tusk & valiant im not sure what the hp & attack investment accomplish.

[distant tree]

Uh ohki and for tusk i thought it needs hp cuz its a setup mon

So

And evioliye bisharp is good or kingambit?

[rapid barn]

You literally don’t even have bulk up

Kingambit is better

Eviolite is not worth it.

[distant tree]

Ic i just thought i could sd

[nocturne sable]

You can just run max attack max speed jolly nature for great tusk

[distant tree]

For tusk?

[rapid barn]

Yes

[distant tree]

Ohk

[nocturne sable]

Also no bisharp is not better than kingambit

[distant tree]

Ohk

[rapid barn]

Yeah what he said, run max atk and speed

[distant tree]

And should i swap corvi for a spd mon

I think its useless

[distant tree]

Ohk

[distant tree]

Amd this

[rapid barn]

Play rough or knock off

Both are ok

[distant tree]

Hmmm ic

[rapid barn]

But I like knock off better

[nocturne sable]

Ogerpon can be U-turn, cudgel, horn leech, knock off

[distant tree]

I sometime lead with pon

[distant tree]

Ohk ohk

[distant tree]

And last one this

[nocturne sable]

Hmm corvi doesn’t look bad here. Can probably change to lefties if you decide to keep it. You can also try special defensive corviknight to sponge special hits better.

Another option is trying out moltres>corviknight though the disadvantage of this is that hazard removal is slightly weaker but it’s manageable

[distant tree]

Ic ohk thanks for ur help

[distant tree]

Thank u too

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/fba865a269fda0bf

[elder knoll]

I am confused by this team

Double removal with two boots attackers?

[rustic adder]

https://pokepast.es/f8d61890f633b806

[regal ginkgo]

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[limber spear]

uh for starters volc is banned + megas r not allowed in ou

more over things like skarm and blissey aren’t ho mons which lead glim finds its home

Choice items generally aren’t that good in ho therefore scale dice has might be the better set for hax

[rustic adder]

Volc are megas r banned? Oh ok .
Isn't blissey the best hp pokemon??

[limber spear]

yes it’s bulky yet the issue is its passivity

oh ho (lead glim) generally h would prefer a faster pace

which blissey sinks the momentum which isn’t ideal

[rustic adder]

Can I swap volcarona with garchomp?

[limber spear]

there r rare blissey teams outside of stall (but in balances as “pioneered” by abr)

[limber spear]

if u decided to go ho u can do glim + hax + chomp ig

[rustic adder]

Ok

[limber spear]

then u add 3 more set up mons that either overwhelm common checks together or can deal with each other’s defensive checks

[rustic adder]

Kingambit and baxcalibur?

[limber spear]

bax is banned

prolly physical spam is fine

[rustic adder]

Ok

[limber spear]

it corv skarm and such might be an issue and demand a fire fang on chomp

[rustic adder]

What should I get for tank?

[limber spear]

u don’t ho r all out offensive teams

[rustic adder]

Ok

[limber spear]

u might also want removal like bu tusk ig

[rustic adder]

Ok so basically,I go full attack mode, 1 trapper, 1 trap remover

[rustic adder]

Was also thinking if I could use salamence or gyarados because of the indimidate

[limber spear]

they aren’t rlly the greatest

[rustic adder]

Hmm

[limber spear]

removal or wants to prevent hazards (taunt or mbounce) are kinda desired

[rustic adder]

Ok

[limber spear]

but i don’t know much about ho besides basical knowledge

[rustic adder]

Ok

I will setup another team and send it here later

[rustic adder]

Oh what about dragapult and dragonite?

[limber spear]

dnite good in ho

pult is p meh and fits better in offense than ho due to dd set being as

[nocturne sable]

Stone edge on offensive zama is always mandatory over heavy slam, otherwise you’re walled by birds. Also you want Tera dark in these cases.

And that garchomp is the most copium roll compression I have ever seen, Just put the ting Lu in the bag bro.

Also you don’t really need double boots with that much hazard control you can go for other items like potentially life orb, e belt, etc.

Zama can be like lefties to set up better & Darkrai you can try choice specs here to help overwhelm other special walls for gholdengo.

You can also potential switch darkrais and gholdengo’s role and make rai the scarfed and dengo the breaker

[nocturne sable]

This team is not even legal in SV OU.

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[regal ginkgo]

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[rustic adder]

Yup i didn't knew volcarona and mega was banned i thought it's only pokemons like giratina or darkai

[scarlet nacelle]

https://pokepast.es/cc95fc1ad9bdb1c8

[nocturne sable]

So where is the breaking power coming from exactly? This team looks really passive

[scarlet nacelle]

cornerstone

[dim beacon]

hi, ive been working on this team for a while and couldnt figure out exactly what to put in the last slot, but then i put in quaquaval and its been working pretty well. is there any small changes i can made to the team to improve? https://pokepast.es/3ad4830e5c325b37

[rustic adder]

https://pokepast.es/c03bab4b70615d5f

[nocturne sable]

Having cornerstone as your sole wallbreaker is kinda iffy especially since it struggled to immediately break common physical checks like zama, pecharunt etc.

And the rest of your team is passive mola is set up fodder for a lot of sweepers & kingambit looks really scary into your team. Treads is also kinda passive here since it’s max spdef and invites stuff like woger in which clicks knock on your team for free. Bulky dnite is also not doing much here too since you’re not max hazards.

This team looks set up to be like a form of hazard stacking team but for some reason you’re not max hazards?

https://pokepast.es/03a8bc24c4f4b2ce

https://pokepast.es/51fe68f24db0f373

i think A, you can either try spikes woger with taunt to disrupt opposing hazard setters like skarm, ting Lu, etc. offers you additional speed control+a knock user to remove boots.

B, go for a more defensive option in chesnaught. can check woger & gambit more reliable defensively & has recovery in synthesis.

Me personally I would probably try option A. Can also try encore>>taunt for more extra measures against swords dance sweepers.

[nocturne sable]

Ghost MU looks iffy but outside of that looks like a decent team

Can probably make Gliscor more physical defensive here

[dim beacon]

what is a ghost mu

[limber spear]

match up with ghos types

[dim beacon]

oh right

yeah i kinda struggle with cerulege if i dont toxic it in time

is there anything i can do to help with that

[nocturne sable]

Maybe try moltres>>gliscor & ting Lu>>quaquaval

https://pokepast.es/70857f3deefd4453

[dim beacon]

k thanks ill try

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/e9017a3093d6f32b very conventional i think(besides maybe coat dengo isnt the best set here but i like it) might hv too many boots tho

[nocturne sable]

Metal coat dengo should run recover I think

[scarlet nacelle]

https://pokepast.es/a25c7cfe072812ae changed the team quite a bit, made it more of a standard balance

[nocturne sable]

You’re really persisting on the muk+mola core huh

I would probably make rilla SD over band here

[limber spear]

i didn’t run it cuz unless i face fatter stuff i don’t find myself clicking it but fair enough

[nocturne sable]

I mean focus blast isn’t really needed here since the perks of metal coat Ghold is that it can KO ting Lu at +2

[limber spear]

it was for gambit (ignore the 2 fighting types

but fair enough

i mean u can’t go wrong with more ways to deal with gambit

[nocturne sable]

True

[nocturne sable]

About the boots I think you can experiment with choice scarf rai.

Can also try black sludge trick Gking.

[limber spear]

trick> t wave on gking?

prolly would wanna try that cuz i haven’t tried it before

but no boots + a potential to get weird item sounds a bit annoying

[nocturne sable]

Ye

Or just do the classic rocky helmet tusk or allow the 3 boots

[limber spear]

maybe i go helmet tusk and just leave the other 3 with boots

thx

( i make helmet zapdos and boots tusk and i still hv 3 boots surely that’s what u mean )

[nocturne sable]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

But for real though scarf rai looks ideal here

[stable nymph]

Tera steel +2 ohkos gambit

Max speed gambit*

And a 50/50 against HP gambit

[rustic adder]

https://pokepast.es/a8103f7efbc80432

[stable nymph]

And coat ghold (to my knowledge) is mainly used to destroy stall

And recover helps a lot with that

[nocturne sable]

Team feels weirds what AV tusk & Tera blast electric pult for??

[rustic adder]

Don't worry I am editing

[nocturne sable]

If you’re running HO I would recommend rocks deoxys speed as a lead over glimmora

[rustic adder]

Don't worry I am cooking rn

I will share the final build

[rustic adder]

https://pokepast.es/ca174242ec472166

My cooking is edible hehe

[nocturne sable]

Meh. Tera types are kinda odd here.

What’s Tera electric pult doing? Also if you’re running Tera fairy gambit it should probably be Tera blast. Still don’t get what AV tusk does here.

And the team is way too slow outside of pult for an HO

[rustic adder]

Av task is to catch people off guard who use special attack

Idk what happened I swear the pult wasn't electric when I set

[nocturne sable]

Like what? Ig iron moth darkrai but I don’t think AV tusk fits here and your set in particular isn’t good anyways since it’s max hp max defense for some reason

[rustic adder]

Yes I thought adding 1 defence would be great

Since I am cooked if they bring weakness of my mons

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/681d21c18e1fc23c

i need to make a good chomp ho

otherwise my life is worthless

[errant vale]

https://pokepast.es/c0ed64462e0b0b23 could anyone help me out ive mixed succes with this team its weak to everthing more and more i play

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Like what specifically

[errant vale]

send my notes

[nocturne sable]

?

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/6a86e979d7072def

k fixed your team up a little bit.

Scarf keldeo is kinda ass+it’s unnecessary. I replaced it with zama as it’s a more consistent attacker overall and helps you check darks better.

You have glowking+ttar so might aswell just make mola max def max hp to tank physical ground moves better.

I also made exca SD because you need a sweeper here. Life orb is just my preference for extra damage but balloon is fine too.

Also need a rocker here so just make Ttar defensive rocks

[errant vale]

yea

[elder knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/ogerpon-ogerpon-wellspring-tera-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-16915269632910713693

[nocturne sable]

Torn zama tickle mola pon is playable

[errant vale]

honestly scarf keldeo is a funny slight woger check since u outspeed

w scarf

and its a decent lead into a lot

and water and fighting hit a lot

kinda cries v any grass mon cuz ur tera isnt a reisist

[nocturne sable]

Scarf keldeo is kinda weak & keldeo itself isn’t at its best rn

[errant vale]

rip

ill let yk how it goes

[distant tree]

https://pokepast.es/0c3c6f326dc218d3

[heady carbon]

https://pokepast.es/e7cce8e4ca8a1ee4

this good?

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[heady carbon]

i got choice scarf kyurem from someone else here in this server idk who

[heady carbon]

honestly thats pretty good

its just that you dont have a hazard remover

[distant tree]

Do u think scarf lando?

[heady carbon]

... and the blaziken...

[distant tree]

Im yhinking of defog zap

[distant tree]

Should i?

[heady carbon]

bro why do you have double kick

[distant tree]

For sash glim

[heady carbon]

there's WAYYY better alternatives

[distant tree]

Or slash mons

[heady carbon]

yeah thats why you need to have a hazard remover

[distant tree]

..

[heady carbon]

like that

remove double kick for like close combat or smth

wait

zapdos doesnt even learn defog

[distant tree]

Uh sry mb it learns in gen8 natdex

I thought it will learn

[limber spear]

u should use boots zap

and helmet lando

at least cuz no removal(not ideal anyways

zapdos should hv a form of pivot imo such as discharge + u-turn or v switch with t wave

same for pult get u-turn > tbolt

specs pult likes to click u-turn i think

taunt > rock tomb on lando as a way to prevent hazards cuz there is no removal ( very greedy but sure

and blaze should use cc and flare blitz for higher bp and generally fits in ho but not bo/offense (which is this structure i suppose

tera types are just their stab and the evs r a bit awkward cuz rilla and scizor would want to out speed gambit and max attack and hp lando isnt that best spread

[wispy niche]

finished whatever this is
https://pokepast.es/6921310c0b02dc11

all for the sake of a dang typhlosion of all pokemon

the bright side? ill eventually learn team building better if i keep this up

[errant vale]

Idk why you’d he max speed bolt

[limber spear]

max speed bolt is very common

this can be refined into a ho but u need to switch like a few mons and get yourself a hazard removal (but the best ho archetype typhlosion can be in is prolly sun and besides typlo other mons doesn’t fit in sun

[wispy niche]

I would like to know

[limber spear]

if u want typhlosion prolly best to fit it in sun or offense/bo

if u want sun just get a setter + typhlosion + a removal coming as a form of hatt or tusk and just more sun mons

[wispy niche]

Alright for the sake of SV OU. ill go with offense

then

ho or o stuff sound nice

[limber spear]

issue : i don’t build offense

[wispy niche]

oof

[limber spear]

or maybe webs/basic ho also works but idk how things will go

u might want to removal meow and a mon for that perhaps smth like removal(bu tusk or cm hatt ) + a lead

[wispy niche]

Which lead

Deoxys?

[limber spear]

deox is prolly fine

[wispy niche]

Just need to consider other leads

Before considering

The final one i might bring

[limber spear]

other leads r like treads glim

[wispy niche]

Full name for glim?

[limber spear]

mora

[wispy niche]

Oh

[scarlet nacelle]

https://pokepast.es/93fab02ef3e6af4a

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/4a1458990d259ea2 fixed the team up a little bit.

I added hatt+lando because your team needed hazard removal here+a dragon resist. Scizor was replaced for kingambit for better ghost MU+kingambit offers priority as well so scizor won’t be missed that much.

although the fairy MU is kinda rough here I can see Ival, Enam etc being a little problematic here. However you do have double Tera fire to patch up that moonblast spam

Knock rilla here makes stuff easier for blaziken to get pass stuff like moltres, dragonite, etc

[nocturne sable]

Double kick blaziken is not KOing any sash mons outside of like Smeargle which you’ll barely see

[distant tree]

thanks abd the fairy would be handeld by gambit right

[distant tree]

ah ok

[nocturne sable]

Double scarf is kinda wack here & you have like no ghost resist outside of Tera dark pecha or hazard setter. Breaking power is nearly non existent here outside of fishing for freezes with kyurem.

Think you need to go back to the drawing board and build this team up from scratch unfortunately. scarf Kyurem is kinda niche although I have seen it on some hazard stacking teams and such.

[heady carbon]

aww man

will build new team

[nocturne sable]

Typhlosion kinda sucks in OU it’s not viable. Although it’s not impossible to build around.

Although you need to scrap this team it barely has any synergy and it’s not good.

If you want to build typhlosion you’re looking at a sun team most likely, to boost that fire power.

https://pokepast.es/6a131731ffe965ee sun is already almost a complete playstyle so it’s easier to build. Just slap the mandatory mons like wake+sun setter+hazard control(hatt or tusk) then the other slots are kinda free. So you can sneak a Mon like typhlosion in structures like these.

[wispy niche]

hmmm. I will think bout it. But yeah I am aware phlosion aint stellar in OU

even for some of things going for it

like singular fire type

flash fire ability

and having not bad stats

is venusaur mandatory?

[nocturne sable]

No but venusaur is usually standard on sun teams. Helps overwhelm spdef cores with wake and I think it could be helpful for typhlosion

[wispy niche]

alright wake is the name of te pokemon

sun setter its the turtle

ok so 4 of them down

the rest of the 2 is do whatever

[wispy niche]

https://pokepast.es/8445b81260ba439e and done

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/bfbd943f9765e217 I kinda feel like I can switch venu with hatt but I love the speed boost

[regal ginkgo]

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[bold stone]

Lmk what you guys think

https://pokepast.es/1d22e1bbcab69146

The most common threat i find is tera ogerpon wellspring

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

This team is definitely decent enough to win some matches even though I’m not a fan of some of the stuff like Blissey here I can see it working.

Woger seems doable here with pecha+skarm. Make pecha foul play in this case to deal with SD pon better.

Can also just make Ghold offensive here since you already have physical defense pecha+skarm defensive dengo is kinda overkill.

Raging bolt also looks really difficult and most special attackers in general since Blissey is just super passive in general.

Maybe garg & treads>>>Blissey & Gliscor & make skarm spikes here can patch a few stuff up

[bold stone]

thanks ill see

but neither skarm nor pech can switch in to tera ogerpon, plus it can always switch out

and its not like skarm can do much to punish a switch

[nocturne sable]

?? You’re hazard stack you set up hazards and limit woger switch in opportunities in the first place

If you keep pecha healthy you can definitely deal with woger. Pecha can easily take less than 40% from Tera woger

https://pokepast.es/241e988fc3082421 something like this is what I envision. If you’re that concerned about pon here you can switch back to Tera dragon skarm. But fighting is nice for the dark resist against gambit & darkrai

[bold stone]

i see. I was just thinking of using metal coat ghold but couldnt due to not having removal. ill try it out

[nocturne sable]

Little thing. On seconds thought might just make garg Tera water for wake MU

[heady carbon]

why do you have 2 sun setters

[bold stone]

Thanks. Another thing do you think recover or tbolt over fblast on ghold would be alright? I understand that skarm is the only real answer to gambit, but I think tera fight makes up for that. I just really dislike inaccurate moves that I almost went ice spinner weavile.

[heady carbon]

https://pokepast.es/0cccc148d8286e10

ok

i tried to remake choice scarf kyurem

idk man im kinda doodoo at teambuilding

[nocturne sable]

Oops yes metal coat gholdengo usually runs tbolt for corv

So that over sball

Gholdengo @ Metal Coat
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 68 HP / 252 SpA / 188 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Nasty Plot
• Thunderbolt
• Make It Rain
• Recover

@bold stone

[heady carbon]

should i replace iron moth with corv or smth?

[bold stone]

got it

[low phoenix]

Idk much about scarf Kyu but I imagine it’s something like this

Making Kyurem clean late game

https://pokepast.es/1dbfc9ce80ffd0bd

Scarf Kyu is pretty niche in the grand scheme of things you can def surprise some ppl with it tho

[heady carbon]

oh cool

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/3c0b08f76ecff6b0 krai might be able afford 252hp instead of spa and tspikes is annoying smh (from glim ofc) corv slot is kinda free i just want a better gambit mu+ a steel like and a even sturdier answer to woger despite rilla and volc

prolly smth like tres/zap/lando etc can be flyer or just treat rilla as the flyer and free up the corv slot

[jade cedar]

make sure the sun is always up even if one of them dies, also burn spread

[heady carbon]

i get that like you would want sun

but theres a reason people run only 1 sun setter

you can free up one of your setters for a better support/offensive mon

[jade cedar]

I mean before it I've been testing with hatt but still found it more consistent to use two sun setters

[tepid hazel]

https://pokepast.es/0cb29759c27c0198 the point is just screens and sand, dont really know i just made a rough draft not rly a good player id say, same for teambuilding looking for advice and oversights

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Veil+sand is just kinda anti synergy. If you want to run screens your better running deoxys or the niche grimmsnarl as a setter

[tepid hazel]

never really thought why -w- ok thanks!

[stable nymph]

You take damage from sand

[nocturne sable]

Atails is too easily exploitable as a screen/veil setter

[tepid hazel]

i think deo is better

[tepid hazel]

👍 kk thanks

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/c17b0fc5ff3dc10e SHOULD be bulky hazard stack

[tepid hazel]

stone edge on treads=knock off then add play rough instead of knock off on ogerpon wellspring is what i would do -w-

thats the only changes id make

since stone edge is literally just moltres, i think?

and ogerpon rly appreciates fairy stab for sweeping, lastly power whip just hits so much that horn leech cant do for power in my opinion, i only like horn leech on cornerstone and do strudy shenanigans

[jade cedar]

I mean the fairy stab is definitely not bad but once it snowballs it doesn't really matter the utility of knock off is more appealing, also I prefer horn leech for consistency my rng is pure dogshit and I want to avoid relaying on it, woger is strong neither way

[tepid hazel]

well it jsut misses so much interactions i genuinely think your throwing, suit yourself

[tepid hazel]

me whos neevr needed knock when i swee pw wellspring tho ngl 😆 different experiences is so real

ive always just goddamn needed play rough when i matchmake

[tepid hazel]

well what abt not USING stone edge lol

i genuinely dont know what ur doing with that ngl

hits, who exactly?

nothing on the top of my head

like if i saw megahorn that would make sense to me for coverage but i dont see stone edge, waht am i missing im scrolling at svou mons rn

[nocturne sable]

I think you’re better off with tealpon here

Over woger

Tera grass treads is kinda wack you would rather want Tera flying or ghost

[tepid hazel]

whos tealpon

e

[limber spear]

base ogerpon

[tepid hazel]

like - yeah makes sense w hazard stack

i wanan run that ngl

i prefer bulky offense but it loosk good

i just hate stone miss and ceaseless miss

[limber spear]

base pon prolly enjoys boots spam fat hstacks

[tepid hazel]

what item

[limber spear]

boots

[tepid hazel]

kk, cool

[tepid hazel]

coverage?> i dont rly use this mon

ive just used itst rock and water masks so far

[limber spear]

encore knock ivy uturn

[tepid hazel]

👍

[limber spear]

main set is that but u can tweak

[tepid hazel]

i kinda like sd already w what hes doing but idk tho

encore sd kncok ivy ?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tepid hazel]

also wtf is stone edge for at iron treads

seriously i have no idea

[nocturne sable]

Moltres

[tepid hazel]

and thats worth?

i know its jsut molt but like thats it huh

[limber spear]

its like also the major reason why tusk sometimes run sedge quake

[tepid hazel]

( i mostly paly offense i have no idea)

[nocturne sable]

He has a rocker already and 2 knock users so stone edge treads is free

[tepid hazel]

i see head smash more pwp

[limber spear]

thats why it fits better in bulky hstacks

[tepid hazel]

no i mean like is sd ok insteadof u

i genuinely just play offense so idrk what i mdoing here

[limber spear]

feels weird

uturn is broken

[tepid hazel]

ok

gotcha

[nocturne sable]

Teal pon would run knock ivy cudgel u-turn encore

[tepid hazel]

omg i mbeing read loike a book playing this team wtf

[jade cedar]

So you're suggesting I should switch woger with boots oger instead?

[nocturne sable]

Ye

[jade cedar]

quick question does it work with CB?

[nocturne sable]

I mean it can run CB but I prefer boots here personally

Zama can easily be offensive over id as well

[jade cedar]

yeah I was asking bc I wanted something that does instant good damage to chipped mons, my sweepers kinda need to set up to be effective

[viral ruin]

https://pokepast.es/91e26e129307ae9b any feedback on this? im around 1600-1700, but ive yet to be able to breach 1750. pure skill issue, or some glaring issue im not seeing?

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Structure doesn’t look bad. I’m guessing stuff like kingambit were an issue here?

Tera ghost gambit specifically

Can probably change woger to a utility set with encore/taunt I’m thinking

[jade cedar]

your team looks generally fine that tera bug bolt is bit weirding me out but it's fine ig, yeah i can see the tera ghost gambit issue in your team as QuaQrash but it's not really bad, decent play can solve that problem just keep trying and you will automatically get better

[viral ruin]

tera ghost can be an issue, but tanky great neck sometimes pulls thru

i had ogerc with low kick earlier for kingambit, but it was just worse in a lot of other matchups except dnite

[limber spear]

bug bolt is actually decent cuz u resist ground and not being weak to ice while resisting fighting as well

[viral ruin]

and sturdy was hard to keep

[placid yarrow]

what mon feels like it cripples your team the most/you lose to the most?

[viral ruin]

stall feels like an autoloss

unless i severely outplay them

and ceruledge i guess?

[placid yarrow]

consider power whip on pon if it's really that bad
horn leech is fine but power can be lacking at times

[placid yarrow]

for ceru
actually looking at your team yeah ceru looks hard

maybe consider changing this to the utility set with twave

and some not tera ghost thing

[viral ruin]

i feel like i often have to sac one to find out which ability its on, if i give a free weak armor proc its just over

[placid yarrow]

you could consider tera water here
but ghost is fine

tera ghost is better on spikes lu
but it's fine for stuff like tusk cc

you could also preserve bolt well so it's not in sneak range

[viral ruin]

yea water seems good, i almost never tera on ting so it was an afterthought really

[jade cedar]

ye I said it's fine, still it's biggest use is on the momment it teras, after that it's a bit risky since a lot of things can be a threat after it

[placid yarrow]

because since you are booster

poltergeist doesn't work

lo almost never runs cc

[limber spear]

cm bolt doesn’t switch that much when compared to boots or specs anyways

[viral ruin]

yea i used to have lefties, but booster makes it a good knock off switchin as well

[placid yarrow]

I think otherwise the teams works for what it's try but just as a summary of my feedback
-prob change the pult set, it doesn't specialize in anything specific pult can do(be a fast utility or annoying damage with specs lorb or band)
-water lu
-if stall is really bad power whip>horn leech but you can keep leech if you think you can play stall well enough

[viral ruin]

thanks, ill prolly try 4 attacks power whip ogerw, maybe life orb pult

[prisma shell]

https://pokepast.es/621a163af240959c I made this team by taking the VGC teams as an example when I typed "Best Scizor Teams" into Google (I might have taken a few too many examples). If there are any downsides to my team, please let me know.

[viral ruin]

im not one of the guys who give feedback normally, but tailwind is hard to pull off in singles

and you dont have speed control, so if scizor is dead pult can run over you if its the right set

[nocturne sable]

Yea this is not going to work. tailwind+sweeper stack when you essentially only have 2 turns is useless.

Also in the future we recommend you build your own team and learn what’s viable in the tier instead of copying teams from a completely different tier.

[nocturne sable]

I

I think woger can be like ivy horn leech taunt U-turn or something. Taunt could be very nice for the stall MU.

LO Dragapult also has a decent MU into stall, so maybe you can consider that.

[tropic hearth]

https://pokepast.es/b3de51452d4e56ab I’m not sure what EVs hat runs on GT with seed ? Also general advice would be good subtect kyurem is annoying to face

[carmine oak]

apparently this gets fried by cb zama so is there a better way to take this team

https://pokepast.es/acc4911d89c85322

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[carmine oak]

i want to keep the torn apple shenanigans

[solar sundial]

Thats why its double dance

[solar sundial]

??

No it doesnt

You have hydrapple + pecharunt

If you're struggling with zama that much then maybe use a more defensive hydrapple

[chilly tundra]

Just kinda looks like a standard Bulky Offense. As other people said, ghost gambit seems like a major problem

[nocturne sable]

Cb zama is very predict reliant you can easily outplay crunch maybe if you run helmet apple

[flat jackal]

https://pokepast.es/928c62c3f07233ad

Might be a bit weak to zama

[flat jackal]

Should i swap gambit for deoxys-s?

[carmine oak]

thats what someone else told me

[stable nymph]

Well, that person was wrong

[carmine oak]

i dont think samu is good though

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/0876dace9f964779 boots-spam

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

What is this corv doing here just make it skarmory 💔

[jade cedar]

completely forget skarmory existed

[nocturne sable]

Spikes on skarm so you can run rocks on Lu

And make Scor Sd probably

[jade cedar]

I kinda want to make my matchup against stall better with knock off+toxic

[nocturne sable]

I mean sd Scor can annoy fat kinda

[rapid spear]

https://pokepast.es/1ce1bb19de6dbd90 first team ive made for sv lol

took some ideas from sets i found online

[nocturne sable]

Some of these sets aren’t good acrobatics Gliscor is kinda fake & AV gambit isn’t viable

You’re also mixing a lot of mons from different playstyle glimm prefers offensive teams clef is more suited for more balanced teams

And both of them have stealth rock in which you don’t really need more than one rock setter

[worn lark]

yeah, a lot of sets arent good here

like av kingambit isnt really strong enough to break walls

and glimm is a suicide lead on a bo?

[flat jackal]

https://pokepast.es/8105644ba4d244a6

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[bronze bay]

https://pokepast.es/11d568f21a3faa8c I got an offensive team featuring Dragonite and Zamazenta. How can I improve this?
@nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale

[trail whale]

I think you'd get the most out of this by making it AoA Zamazenta, Tera Blast Dragonite, Uturn Ogerpon, and LandoT > Ting-Lu
rn looks like a weird hyper offense that loses momentum rather easily. LandoT & U turn Ogerpon you a pivot to bring in your threats. aoa Zamazenta is a better use of your speed control and breaks for lategame Gambit/Dnite better.
You could do Ace > Ghold if you find yourself struggling with hazards but idt it's a mandatory change

also for future reference better to not ping all the raters, chatot pings us every few hours and we'll try to respond to every team

[bronze bay]

ok, how does it look now: https://pokepast.es/2f513b3cd5a7c320

[trail whale]

You should use Boots Zamazenta, its your speed control & Kingambit check, never want to be taking so much chip

I dont like Spikes Ogerpon here but its not bad, the team should be good after the Zama change

[bronze bay]

how would you improve the ogerpon? spikes was just the default choice for that build in the strat pokedex

[trail whale]

just Play Rough or Power Whip in that slot

[bronze bay]

got it, thx

[upper otter]

https://pokepast.es/ba71ec5816069886

DEFUNCT DO NOT RATE

This right here is what I believe is a pretty familiar Rillaboom Balance team
The only flaw too major I can see is that ever so pesky Ogerpon weakness as I don't have much to switch in after an initial "Bring Rillaboom in" so some help would be appreciated

Should I consider swapping the Gholdengo with a Sinistcha/Dragapult? Put rocks on Treads and replace Clefable with Zapdos/Great Neck? Replacing the Clef would worsen my Valiant matchup

Maybe I should swap Treads for Corviknight, but that would leave me without a Ground type

[worn lark]

haven't built in a while, how'd i do? https://pokepast.es/26cafdb4bbcd1428

Built around primarina, bolt for an extremely strong breaker, alo as i love wish passing and it works very well will bolt n prim being somewhat bulky

tusk is tusk, the av scizor is because of the massive kyurem in the room & priority + special wall, and scarf mewos for an extremely fast poke

[worn lark]

i feel like there's a big fire type shaped hole in the room here

im not that qualified but your 1 resist has no real offense

theres not even a fire resist tera

sash ceru might sweep depending on the set which is

rough

[upper otter]

Yeah I ended up reprising the team, keeping the Kyurem-Alo-Rillaboom core

I feel this one is a lot better balanced since not only do I have a higher speed tier, but I have an immediate bonking stick that isn't Rillaboom

It's still lacking something that directly resists Fire and can deal with it at the same time, but with 3 things that can Earthquake/power and an emergency Tera on Corviknight it shouldn't be too bad

The worst case scenario is having to sacrifice something, bring Enamorus into Ceruledge, Earth Power and Grassy Glide on the faint if rocks weren't up

[worn socket]

thoughts on this non-team

[upper otter]

My thought is if you don't care for competitive analysis then why submit it to the competitive analysis place

Unless I'm mistaken and this is not a "I know Eevee sucks, I know Absol sucks" situation in which case that is my mistake

But currently the big problem I see is the Ogerpon matchup, only having one thing that can go against Great Tusk, and the speed tier if Sand isn't up

[wooden mountain]

Woger would be a big headache for this team

[worn socket]

Yeah I originally had rilla and lando t for lokix and empoleon but grassy terrain + eq user didnt make sense as well as just getting destroyed by water ice grass

Except now it's fairy fighting :p

[upper otter]

Just use Earth Power instead of Earthquake

This isn't a joke, Earth Power Landorus is in many cases preferred to Earthquake in gen 9

[worn socket]

True but excadrill

Is there

[upper otter]

They hit on different spectrums

[worn socket]

I should probably just drop him since he's the culprit of the team just being so weird in to many things 🥀

[upper otter]

Also using Tyranitar as an attacker instead of a bulky mon

[worn socket]

I've been switching between av tar and cb

[upper otter]

Honestly Leftovers is your best bet

It's like a Ting Lu that can actually attack back
Plus Sandstorm's value is chip on its switch ins, making progress even if you do nothing

Dragonite Multiscale is gone, for example, so many run Ice Beam as a result since that lets you 1hko after the initial switch in chip

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/de6db44e0761b329 one hot mess delievered

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wooden mountain]

Hydrapple is a good Woger check u can use on sand

[worn socket]

I'll try that out 👍

[nocturne sable]

This is not exactly a non team. It’s not that bad. Can probably make Hatt a slowking-galar make Ttar defensive Ttar with spikes then drop empoleon for something good into woger like hydrapple or something. Can also make moltres into a Zapdos to additionally improve on woger MU aswell

Also rock slide is generally preferred over iron head on SD excadrill

@worn socket

[worn socket]

Preciate it :]

I'm thinking scarf gholdengo last?

[nocturne sable]

Slowking-galar

[worn socket]

O yea

I rly like the look of this

[nocturne sable]

Booster speed moth on balance is super wack you’re basically playing with 5 mons every game.

The only way iron moth would fit on a balance team is with spec overheat or the fake utility sets(U-turn,toxic,morning sun, etc)

Alomomola here instead wouldn’t be a bad addition. Provides wish support to a team that is otherwise lacking reliable recovery & actually gives you a way to switch into great tusk+offers a real fire resist.

[jade cedar]

oh okay, what set?

[nocturne sable]

Usually wish pass set with like tickle over scald for stuff like Dd nite

Can go max def max hp

[jade cedar]

Okay then, other then that is the team fine?

[nocturne sable]

Propably want Tera grass on gweezing too for extra insurance against Ogerpon

[jade cedar]

kk thx

[nocturne sable]

This team barely has any speed control outside of Grassy glide rilla and has a very weak defensive core suspectable to a lot of set up sweepers like Ceruledge kingambit wogerpon, etc.

Team also has no ghost so any ghost type like Dragapult gholdengo the afromentioned Ceruledge & nasty plot pecha are all going to sweep this team with ease.

Rillaboom+gholdengo is normal but the other 4 mons are holding your team back.

Eq Treads+gterrain is anti synergy, utility clefable barely accomplished much here and just lets stuff like gholdengo in for free mola is another passive non and subtect kyurem doesn’t really fit the pace here.

This team needs to be scrapped unfortunately. I recommend you check out sample teams & other resources to gather a better grasp of the metagame. For some tips on building a rillaboom gterrain team stuff like heatran, gholdengo, lando-T, hatt, samurott, Pecharunt, Zapdos, hawlucha, Ogerpon, etc are examples of mons that can synergies with grassy terrain rillaboom team and be complementary to rillaboom.

[regal ginkgo]

OverUsed (Gen 9)

• Sample teams
• Viability rankings
• Speed tiers
• Role compendium
• Metagame discussion thread
• Discord
• Pokemon Showdown! room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[upper otter]

I made a different one that is better please take a look at that one

[upper otter]

.

[nocturne sable]

Oh might bad I didn’t see this,

Okay this is definitely better. However a few things

Corv should probably be Tera dragon here for wogerpon.

And I’m still not a big fan of alo-kyu-rilla here. Like the hazard support isn’t there & stuff like gholdengo+Ceruledge still kinda farm this team

Again EQ+grassy terrain is anti synergy so I don’t see how ting Lu benefits from here

Enam isn’t a bad addition but I still don’t see the synergy behind the main core of Kyu-alomomola & rillaboom

Again I recommend using the resources to see what actually synergies with rillaboom. Grounds like great tusk, ep landorus can synergies well with rillaboom

[upper otter]

Ting Lu isn't really clicking Earthquake in my experience with the team, and not just because of the Grassy Terrain thing, but because 9 times out of 10 it's clicking any of its other moves

It's there to soak special moves and electric moves, it's there to set rocks, and it's there to Whirlwind
Landorus T is a good suggestion but then I've got 3 flying types and even if I love flying that's a bit much

Although what you're saying does make sense, perhaps I should replace the Kyurem with a Heatran

Ok so how about:
Heatran instead of Kyurem
Replace Corviknight with Geezing
Replace Ting Lu with Landorus T
Replace Enamorus with ...something

[nocturne sable]

I think what you need to start with is actually building a strong main core around the team.

Rilla+ what? What other mon do you want to build a strong offensive core together with rillaboom

[upper otter]

Rillaboom Enamorus has worked wonders so far

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/caf24b41878c1b44 something roughly like this can work here.

Rillaboom+enamorus is a decent core. Heatran helps with spdef mons like dengo bolt enam etc+your main rocker. I made it flame body here to have a way of punishing physical attackers better like a wogerpon clicking grass move into heatran.

Great tusk is there for hazard removal+gambit and since heatran is rocks it can run close combat to 2hko corv.

Darkrai offers a ghost resist for stuff like Ceruledge shadow sneak+can help wear down special walls for enamorus with nasty plot.

Rotom wash was added here to patch up the weakness to fightings like tusk & zamazenta, hence why it’s Tera ghost here

[solar sundial]

https://pokepast.es/2ce3b83710ae2049 fat removal team w/ banded cinderace

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[solar sundial]

I know band cinder has like, 0 usage for a real reason, but its actually been super fun to use + a complete power house

Struggles against pex, zama, and less so dnite

[nocturne sable]

This reminds me of an old sample team that you switch up some of the sets a little to catch others expecting the usual off guard

This is definitely not bad, banded ace has nuke potential

Although your overlapping with role compressions a bit you have 2 rock users. Tusk should probably be CC here

[solar sundial]

Yeah i just forgot to make tusk knock off

[nocturne sable]

Also psynoise is preferred on sub CM prim for the stall MU

[solar sundial]

Im not like

Too concerned about stall

Band cinder nukes like 3 of the most common stall mons

Though i do need a pex check

[nocturne sable]

Which is kinda why you run psynoise prim on CM

[solar sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

Makes sense

Pex wasnt the biggest problem though, that would actually go to dnite

I genuinely dont know how to stop dnite from just running through things once it starts going, unless i play around it perfectly

[nocturne sable]

Btw Tera grass corv is kinda trash it should almost always be Tera dragon

[solar sundial]

Didnt wanna remove my only ground resist

[solar sundial]

Kingambit can also occassionally be a problem late game

[nocturne sable]

Keeping the ground resist doesn’t really matter Tera grass is still considerable worst since you’re making yourself weak to common types like fire, U-turn, poison, etc. Tera dragon keeps the woger resist while adding resist to fire which is important

[solar sundial]

Makes sense

[nocturne sable]

Great tusk should be generally good for gambit & dnite. Makes sense the MU is kinda harder since you’re not id body press corv

I think you can experiment with physdef ting Lu here. Scarf tusk also doesn’t sound bad for the additional speed control

[fallen hatch]

just coming back to competitive, been having success with this team but it feels like it's missing something
https://pokepast.es/c3622d62ec27f78f

mmmm disregard this im changing a few things

[leaden sigil]

https://pokepast.es/5d77d93a9a60503f any changes or pokemon swaps needed?

[solar sundial]

Why are you sparkling aria

[regal ginkgo]

Sparkling Aria (Gen 9)

If the user has not fainted, the target is cured of its burn.

Type

Water

Category

Special

Power

90

Accuracy

100

PP

10 (16)

Priority

0

Target

AllAdjacent

Flags

• Ignores a target's substitute.
• Can be selected by Metronome.
• Can be copied by Mirror Move.
• Blocked by protection moves.
• Has no effect on Pokemon with the Soundproof Ability.

[solar sundial]

Just use psychic noise

[azure abyss]

Is this team poop or viable
https://pokepast.es/3ee42a28ec0ee09e

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/907c1a3b5eee57c7 feels like sand had lost it's spark

[jaunty raft]

https://pokepast.es/02694214327ad277

I need smth for enemy zama other than praying to allah raging neck can 1v1 it

[jade cedar]

not gonna lie I don't see the point of ttar here, switch it with a spec enam, and if you still found yourself still struggling switch corv with g-weezing and you will be fine, also throw encore on woger if you don't wanna run sd

[jaunty raft]

Team was built around ttar so idk

[jade cedar]

you need mons that get adventage from sandstorm like excadrill or cornerstone, bc half of your team get unnecessary chip

[stable nymph]

Non Exca/Corner TTar teams are fine

[jaunty raft]

Yeah I ain't a fan of exca ngl

It just kinda deals no damage and dies

[limber spear]

rilla is also a good partner for ttar

[split hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/abd1157ebcbbfc09

[jaunty raft]

Oj right I could go back to that

Team kinda slow outside of zama

Which is insane to say given that woger hits 350

Doesn't solve my zama issue tho

[limber spear]

maybe tera ghost on corv?

prolly improved the mu with like cb zama or idbp set

[jaunty raft]

Still doesn't do much in retaliation and can't switch in directly

[jade cedar]

not saying they aren't but it's anti-synergy to use something that actively weakens your team especially if it's something bulky or a set-up sweeper, something like choice mons would be fine since their hp doesn't really matter since they're in and out quickly

[jaunty raft]

They like the chip against enemies

[azure abyss]

is this team any good
https://pokepast.es/3ee42a28ec0ee09e

if not how do I fix it

[limber spear]

uh for the basic stuffs
u need to decide between lo offensive pult or the hex pult (the first one is better in offense while later one is better in balance/bo)(maybe offensive is betterhere)
the tera types r all just stabs
should get pain split>tbolt on rotom for recovery
i dont think av ttar is the best set here but its better to go for ice punch/lowkick>crunch cuz knock is very spammable
u can go rapid spin> pjab on exca but prolly pjab is fine cuz that thing with cb doesnt hv much to run
booster jug or jug prolly fits better in ho and better off using the set shown in ss
uh no woger check 😭which loves coming in on an exca/ttar
i think u can replace wash with smth and covert it into a offense/ho with like set tweaks and 1-2 mon changes

uh first 2 ss is sets for pult third one is jug*

[azure abyss]

cwhat mons u suggest I change with

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/f0251e1ec61e35d2 I feel like I can make alola rocky helmet here

[limber spear]

take it with a grain of salt but uh hydrapple>rotom wash ?(prolly pech works

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[jade cedar]

with rotom wash the team becomes worse against woger

[limber spear]

uh

i mean replace rotom wash with apple

[jade cedar]

wait sorry 😅 i thought you were talking to me

[limber spear]

oh :_: all good

[jade cedar]

and ye you're right apple is better in their team, also is that me or the pult's set is a bit funky

[limber spear]

yeah i said that too

[azure abyss]

besides the issues u pointed out u think the team can work out fine?

granted that i fix them

[limber spear]

uhhh prolly(i hope

yeah apple is betetr than pech cuz u need smth for ting lu mu

[limber spear]

do u need a flyer/knock absorber here

[azure abyss]

do u have a good set for apple

[limber spear]

Hydrapple @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 248 Def / 12 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Nasty Plot
• Fickle Beam
• Giga Drain
• Earth Power

tera type and item is adjustable

tera poison/fairy/prolly even ghost is fine + item can be helmet granted if u run rapid spin on exca it is a "double removal" tho its not the steadiest one

[nocturne sable]

Not a bad 6. Although tankchomp is kinda wasted without spikes. Dont think this team really utilizes tankchomp here.

I would drop garchomp for tusk here

Make zados>> here over corviknight

Woger>>prim

Btw if you’re running black glasses kingambit make it Tera dark

Can also change the iron valiant set here you could make it knock off here

[nocturne sable]

This team is.. interesting
I suppose you’re trying to make band exca work? Here’s a few thing.

Some of the mons just kinda feel random here like cinderace, iron jugulus, etc feel very out of place here.

https://pokepast.es/d241b556b95a9069 here’s a concept I have. Hazard stacking with Ttar+chesnaught and the special attacking core of Metal coat dengo+LO torn+cm Val with exca as hazard control+speed control

[nocturne sable]

Ttar & ting Lu are kinda overlapping here & it’s not needed here. Instead of ting Lu add another offensive piece to complement excadrill & gholdengo.

[jade cedar]

like what?, still ting lu was my special tank

[nocturne sable]

You literally have a spdef Ttar that does the same thing

And you already have excadrill as a ground

So ting Lu is just kinda not needed here

Something like zama/ival wouldn’t be a bad addition here

[jade cedar]

Oh sorry I've been looking at another team, in there ttar was banded

[jade cedar]

I think I'll take Ival but which set?

[nocturne sable]

Since you have scarf dengo+exca for speed control maybe you can experiment with choice specs Ival or something

I can also see like SD Tera dark working

Btw drop rapid spin on Banded exca for rock slide

[nocturne sable]

I’m ngl this team just kinda looks like banded Ttar was randomly slapped on here.

If you’re trying to build around something like banded Ttar think about the offensive core you want to pair with it and what you want to accomplish exactly before adding all the defensive stuff & checklists

[jaunty raft]

Right

[nocturne sable]

Anyways the simple solution to your zama problem is dropping Ttar for something like pecharunt or glowking.

And then fixing up on some of the sets like boots attack zama should be stone edge always>>heavy slam $ Tera dark.

Corv should be brave bird here as well solo Body press is kinda wack

Cm bolt is fine but it should probably be lefties & Tera bug here

Or you can make it specs if you want

[jaunty raft]

Hmm

[nocturne sable]

This team is unfortunately unviable bruxish isn’t viable & you’re mixing a lot of playstyles together. Utility tusk & scarf enam don’t fit on screens/veil & even in that regard Ninetales isn’t the best screens/veil setter right now.

I recommend looking at comp resources to have a better grasp of the metagame

[regal ginkgo]

OverUsed (Gen 9)

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• Speed tiers
• Role compendium
• Metagame discussion thread
• Discord
• Pokemon Showdown! room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[solar sundial]

Hydrapple > bolt?

[jaunty raft]

Leftovers bolt has grown on me

[solar sundial]

Hydra improves your zama MU

[jaunty raft]

I slapped a glowking in there life gud

[azure abyss]

u got any good cinderace teams

[viral cosmos]

https://pokepast.es/d0dae869a722bd0d i feel like this team has too many bad mons, i was trying to build around restochesto frosmoth as it really tanks everything and can heal off magchains and twaves, however i added cincinno for rocks removal + abuser and then kommo-o for the rest of my weaknesses. any changes i should make? id love to keep frosmoth and atails

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[alpine hornet]

i see the vision but i think it was lost with cinc

i think hatt as only removal is fine on veil

id probably say rai last to shore up some weaknesses?

lowk id also go cc on kommo just to lure ting more efficiently

im also one to greed the real broken ceru (lorb) on veil but

u could test bu ceru asw

[viral cosmos]

ty, yeah i definitely agree that i lost the plot w cinc

what rai set is best on veil?

[nocturne sable]

Regular Nasty plot darkrai.

You can switch up the movesets depending on what you want to accomplish. If you want to be more effective against stall you can run psyshock.

You can also experiment with moves like will o wisp or substitute

That’s as like the last slot though you’ll be running NP dark pulse sludge bomb

[worn socket]

I added a pecharunt over glowking, and I am liking it so far

Parting shot is a rly nice touch for the bulky mons + spin block

But I've had 3 matches where a gliscor was able to just sit on the whole team and knock eq and toxic protect everything

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/5286de828ce8935c 252hp/72def lets milotic tank 2 cc from boots zama

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/a0efb9c2d0ed017c

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[echo rampart]

not much to say ngl, only thing is you could probably just make Darkrai Tera ghost to beat Blissey

so you can replace Psyshock

tera ghost + sludge bomb should also beat blissey on stall

[distant tree]

https://pokepast.es/237fd3a5ce1023b3

[nocturne sable]

Makes sense. Pecharunt is also a reasonable alternative to glowking.

About Gliscor you definitely have the tools to beat it you just have to play proactively

You have set up sweepers like exca & hydrapple that can easily break through Gliscor+ice beam ttar to hit is hard as well.

Tera bug Lokix can also easily 2hko spdef Scor with bug stab.

You can pivot around with pecharunt since eq Gliscor is not exactly threatening a 0hko unless it’s SD and in that case you’re foul play Gliscor you can easily beat SD gliscor.

Then in the case of hydrapple excadrill utility Scor is beatable you just have to play around its protect. For example you click nasty plot/swords dance on the protect to scare jt. In the case of toxic excadrill is immune to that & hydrapple can Tera into poison to dodge it aswell.

[nocturne sable]

Bootspam+2 phasers with no Hstack.

[limber spear]

😭 😭 i thought of util scor but having a smth besides dengo for fat is nice

and tbf it’s not like i can’t make progress without spikes (but there is no the 2 phaser which ig i can go rest > whirl on lu?)

as like zama and apple does progress

[nocturne sable]

Spikes aren’t mandatory to make progress in general but usually on these structures spikes are kinda wanted here.

[limber spear]

like on fat or on boots spams

[nocturne sable]

Bootspams

[limber spear]

is there a rationale behind it

just curious

[nocturne sable]

Like Wym

A reason?

[limber spear]

yeah

like why does boots spam like to be hstack

[nocturne sable]

Because that’s like the main wincon to force progress. Bootspam with no max hazards isn’t going to force progress that much especially with the lack of immediate power since you’re not running offensive boosting items. And max hazards makes bootspam better into certain playstyles like offense for example

[limber spear]

https://tenor.com/view/notes-note-take-notes-daffy-notes-daffy-note-gif-7089549869873009522

thx

uh so for the team do i just make scor spikes

is rest on ting lu better than whirl cuz i got no t spike absorb

[nocturne sable]

Bootspam already kinda deals with Tspikes tbh

[limber spear]

doesn’t lu hate poison or toxic from it

or it’s like fine cuz my teammates don’t care

[nocturne sable]

^more like this

[limber spear]

oh ic thxxxx

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokeani-anipoke-pokemon-horizons-quaxly-gif-6207360039078077074

[nocturne sable]

You can also make gholdengo like nasty plot

[nocturne sable]

Yea can probably just make scor spikes

That way Milotic actually has a niche here kinda

[nocturne sable]

What’s garg doing on webs just make bro like a kingambit or something.

And fix up the iron moth set a little bit if you’re running Tera ghost moth make it Tera blast with substitute or something to play around kingambit sucker punch.

[distant tree]

I initially tried zama instead of garg idint like or zama being usefull ill try gambit

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/c1d7e02dbd6f29c8 newest hot mess, roost me

[nocturne sable]

Makes sense zama doesn’t really fit on webs

[nocturne sable]

Outside of the weird treads set this is decent & relatively standard

[distant tree]

Hm

Should i go lowkick on gambit

[jade cedar]

switch it with tusk then?

[nocturne sable]

Nah it’s just the sets that’s the thing

Just make it like air balloon or lefties with Tera ghost here

[jade cedar]

ig I'll stick with leftovers, also the tera is for woger shenanigans

[nocturne sable]

AV hatt over torn is also not a bad suggestion for extra hazard control

[nocturne sable]

I mean Tera grass is obviously only for one thing but like woger isn’t really that bad here with Lokix pult & pecha

• Tera ghost treads can still take a cudgel as long as it’s above half hp

[jade cedar]

the trauma never disappeared 😭

[nocturne sable]

So you’re good

[jade cedar]

btw what's the set for av hatt

[nocturne sable]

Just run like the smogon set or something

Hatterene (F) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Magic Bounce
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 100 SpA / 104 SpD / 52 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Psyshock
• Draining Kiss
• Mystical Fire
• Nuzzle

[jade cedar]

feel like I can switch psyshock for psychic noise for stall mu

[nocturne sable]

Psyshock is still good for the stall MU

Hits Blissey & clod very hard

[jade cedar]

Ok then, thx for the help

[tropic hearth]

Bump

[nocturne sable]

Just use the regular CM hatt smogon set if you’re unsure of what evs to put on hatt.

Anyways I would change rilla here to Swords dance Tera dark. It’s really nice into ghost like ceru & pult+ boosts knock off power.

Speed tiers are kinda mid here though in ngl. I would probably make cornerstone Trailblaze/grassy glide here to improve the speed here & offence MU.

I think in regards of kyurem you can just make hatt AV here.

[rapid spear]

https://pokepast.es/b3acba8f8133e3a1

took inspiration from random sets i saw online and jumbled everything to make this, idrk how good leki rapid spin is so im open to many changes

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[solar sundial]

Scrap this entire team

You're mixing archetypes, and regieleki is just like

Banned

So you cant even use that

Also that gliscor set isnt really doing anything

[wooden mountain]

What format, u r using regieleki and all ur mons are level 50

[nocturne sable]

Umm… if you’re really looking to play SV OU I recommend you check out comp resources like samples, viability rankings and rule sets of the tier.

[regal ginkgo]

OverUsed (Gen 9)

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Overview

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[regal ginkgo]

Hey @lone dune, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9vgc team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059704283072831499 instead.

[drowsy marsh]

https://pokepast.es/030a4bc1512021da what do i add/change to this?

[tender lark]

https://pokepast.es/51a4bae853c5d459 dd kyurem team, unsure about torn but i played a couple games and its been going alright

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[scarlet nacelle]

https://pokepast.es/72a9e775f3a19d64 any thoguhts

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/fd7390c960800c3f full uu or below mons surprisingly anyways there r a few unrated team before this

[flat jackal]

https://pokepast.es/a1ace25195b0fca3 hazard stack yayy

[nocturne sable]

In the future it is recommended you complete your team and test it out before you post it asking for advice in RMT channel.

But anyways AV iron crown is kinda useless here since you already have AV hamu+glowking and your team looks pretty weak to woger.

I would add tealpon here maybe. Helps with speed control+ogerpon & can assist in your hazard stacking by knocking items.

Then I would probably replace iron crown for gholdengo. Ghold can probably be scarf here.

Also I would switch some of the Tera’s here maybe a Tera ghost on Lando or tusk for an emergency spin blocker.

Non sludge bomb glowking is also kinda wack I get wanting to hit dark types with focus blast but most of the time toxic/flamethrower/twave do the job on them. Ig you can keep focus blast if you want but sludge bomb is still kinda mandatory so you would have to be 3 attacks+chilly reception. And make evs just regular defensive glowking evs.

And I would tusk rock coverage>close combat here for better match ups against moltres.

https://pokepast.es/d7931b8888b7219b something roughly like this

[drowsy marsh]

Im using focus for kyurem

And hoping it hits

[drowsy marsh]

Also sorry for the incomplete team

[nocturne sable]

It’s cool

[nocturne sable]

But like you don’t really need focus blast in that case. The point of glowking coming in on kyurem is so it can pivot of it with chilly reception and bringing in attackers that can kill kyurem.

• focus blast gets stalled out by subtect kyurem anyways

Sludge bomb can break its sub most of the time

• with hazards up kyurem wont like switching in too often

[drowsy marsh]

Kyurem runs sub and protect?

[drowsy marsh]

Owh

I see

[nocturne sable]

Yea most common kyurem set rn. Specs in still a thing but it’s not as popular anymore

[drowsy marsh]

So its just subtect then freeze and draco?

[nocturne sable]

Freeze and earth power

[drowsy marsh]

OH

Ok neat

[nocturne sable]

Even in the case of specs I think you’re fine

Get hazards up you limit the time specs kyurem can come it

[drowsy marsh]

Its probably gonna be common cuz im in liq elo

Low

[drowsy marsh]

I see

[nocturne sable]

And you can force it to commit Tera ice to KO glowking

Which could be an advantage

Tho focus blast glowking can still be a decent lure in for like a kingambit or something

[drowsy marsh]

Oh

Ok ill keep blast cuz

[nocturne sable]

So you can test it out in that regard

[drowsy marsh]

Draga no likey gambit

Wait

This

Is not a dragapult team

I am realizing

I usually use dragapult and i forgot i made a crown team

Wait tusk isnt using cc?

Moltres coverage?

[nocturne sable]

Yea i switched it to rock move for molt

[drowsy marsh]

Ah alr

Is there anything this team could struggle against?

[limber spear]

prolly pon imo

[drowsy marsh]

Waterpon?

[limber spear]

yeah

[nocturne sable]

You have to test it out mostly to find out. Gambit can be annoying if focus blast doesn’t hit with glowking. Lando is kinda unpleasant here too. Pon could be manageable with scarf Ghold+tealpon but like still need to play around carefully

[limber spear]

just asking but isn’t zap> lando better here

[drowsy marsh]

Would it be bad to ask u to rate another team (its a full team this time)

[limber spear]

u gain pivot and taunt is fairly ok but u got tusk

and sturdier pon check + u can get rocks on tusk anyways

[drowsy marsh]

Oh and zap can stop molt

Cuz

[nocturne sable]

Hmm ig that’s true

[drowsy marsh]

Lightninf woah

What main stab does zap use?

Like hurricane?

[nocturne sable]

Hurricane

[drowsy marsh]

Ah

[nocturne sable]

Discharge roost pivot move

U-turn/volt switch

U-turn is fine to pivot on ground types

[drowsy marsh]

It doesnt bring twave?

[limber spear]

u can on v switch sets

[drowsy marsh]

Why volt specifically?

[nocturne sable]

Static+discharge can still fish for Tera so it’s fine

[limber spear]

prolly cuz u want a electric stab

and your team is fairly fast with scarf dengo and potential tera teal pon

[drowsy marsh]

Oh right

[limber spear]

and u-turn mostly wants discharge

so i think that’s why

[drowsy marsh]

Tera?

Or para

Also can u please rate this one LAST ONE I PROMISE https://pokepast.es/2a212cd02eb1dea9

I rlly wanna use keldeo and draga

[limber spear]

pressure on corv u need that to win pp stalls

i would argue defog corv as mono removal is kinda too weak to support the vturn core as the only boots user with pivot move is called keldeo

||idk if sd scor fits here but anyways uh seems annoying as u need scor to tera to be a ghost resist and function far better with the sd set with facade but then u don’t hv a ground type (tbf u can just get when u need to a bit of over thinking here ||

(ig spikes on on woger is a bit too much cuz u want to spam ivy or u-turn more but personal preference )

[drowsy marsh]

Keldeo rlly wants hazard stack

To break tankier stuff

[drowsy marsh]

U think i should use a better removal mon?

[limber spear]

i thought pon sd scor and volt turn core would be enough

[limber spear]

idk weezing seems good smh

[drowsy marsh]

Ig rocks might be enough ti forgo spikes

[drowsy marsh]

Instead of corv?

[limber spear]

prolly

u have scor as flyer

removal and pon check too

[drowsy marsh]

Hmm alr

Weezing gets defog?

[limber spear]

(but then due to no natural ghost resist uh dengo dengo mu seems annoying as tinka isn’t lasting long

[limber spear]

yeah

always use ngas in case u didn’t know

if u do then great

[drowsy marsh]

Someone ffed after a mienshao died

[drowsy marsh]

Rlly?

Huh

Awesome

[limber spear]

uh it’s the most broken ability 😞not considering it on a mon that has it is a disrespect to it

[nocturne sable]

https://pokepast.es/a282d8738b9fe834 maybe something like this

[drowsy marsh]

No cuz i thought itd use levi

For no earth weakness

[limber spear]

off topic but the main sell point of geezing is its ability to defog on the stupid ass cheese stick

and check other stuff with typing and ability reliant stuffs to

[nocturne sable]

Ting you as your ground+ghost resist with payback to actually hit back dengo+pult. Keldeo+pult+tealpon as your volt turn core with tinka & skarm ad hazards setter+utility

[nocturne sable]

Defensive core looks kinda sus Draco is basically clicked for free on this team+2 of your mons gives raging bolt free entry.

Woger also kinda recks this team regardless of the copium Tera’s like Tera grass tusk which just kinda opens you up to lose to mons like kingambit. If you’re trying to run DD kyurem it prefers to be ran on more offensive teams rather than teams like this.

[drowsy marsh]

No removal?

[nocturne sable]

You have boots+knock absorbers like skarm & tinka

[drowsy marsh]

Oh

Alr tysm man

[nocturne sable]

You can also make Ogerpon taunt here over encore if you want to punish corv better

But it should be fine. Once you knock helmet you should voltTurn for free

[nocturne sable]

Ngl I don’t see the point of incineroar here I would just make it a moltres at this point for a proper ground immune. You can also adjust the gambit set at this point & make tusk CC>ice spinner here since you have gweez+woger to Deal with Gliscor.

[drowsy marsh]

Why did skarmory get outsped by -1 speed dondozo ._.

[nocturne sable]

Maybe cuz you used whirlwind? It’s -6 priority

[drowsy marsh]

Oh right

I am

Stupid

Wtf are these sets im encounterinf

[nocturne sable]

This stall has potential but I’m not really a fan of the lack of ways to pressure stuff like corvi outside of like Tera sini with Tera poison cm(which is not ideal)

Maybe make this a Ghold semi over tealpon I’m thinking?

[drowsy marsh]

Lirb cirv

[solar sundial]

@nocturne sable is band ival worth anything or am i wasting time trying it

[nocturne sable]

Idk depends is there anything that it noticeably accomplishes? If so there might be a niche

[solar sundial]

Idk thats why i asked

[nocturne sable]

I never actually tried or heard of banded valiant that much so idk

[solar sundial]

It gets prio in shadow sneak ig

[drowsy marsh]

Who is the ohko guy in battles?

Is it just like a bit

Bot

[nocturne sable]

Checked some calc it has the chance to 2hko some fairies with spirit break given some chip. Guess you can try it out

Anyways we’re getting a bit off topic here better to move in #comp-general for further discussions

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/1a1e0339bdac14d1 roost me

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[worn lark]

blep https://pokepast.es/1750dd453fcfa736

[worn lark]

booster bolt and hazards might be issues

and why weezing? just as a woger counter?

[nocturne sable]

I can kinda see the vision with gweez but I don’t agree with Lando being here I would just make it a iron treads for bolt mu

[limber spear]

but then wouldn’t i need a knock

cuz pon is my knocker

(like to knock mandi and u-turn on mandi over id and foul play?

[nocturne sable]

Nah Id foul play is like the main reason to run Mandi

You can probably drop toxic for knock off if you need a knocker

Can also try Scor over like skarm but I think you can be fine

[grim cobalt]

https://pokepast.es/cf689e9bb34606b8 Hows dis team and what could I improve?

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lusty forge]

This is my first team, what can I approve on it (Built for doubles OU) https://pokepast.es/0bb8787e6189b8cd

[grim cobalt]

uh

[wooden mountain]

https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059655497587888158

[lusty forge]

thank you, didnt see the toher chat

[wooden mountain]

I wouldn’t rely on just defog scizor for removal

Esp when I gotta support a kyurem

[limber spear]

ic do i run f wave hex or scarf or fat np with boots also uh is it better to run dozo over cha now as i have a ghost (also thinking of like poison sting or jab on clod over toxic cuz now i have double unaware form dozo and set up sweeping is less scary while it improves my hatt mu cuz that thing is kinda common now with pain slit

[lime raptor]

https://pokepast.es/e33d5b4a4c82fa57

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[echo rampart]

hello mage bob, im not sure if this heatran set fits super well

[lime raptor]

i felt that

but thought i needed a dragon resist

[echo rampart]

how have you been liking this raging bolt set? i always recommend tera solar beam on sun its so dumb and has similar traits to tera flying

meh u have AV tusk and a bunch of offense, dragon MU is ok. dnite is always super annoying for sun but tran doesnt help there either

[lime raptor]

as in tera grass?

[echo rampart]

yep

[lime raptor]

k

[echo rampart]

other q is how has gambit been for you

truth is u can make most any SV team work but i feel gambit doesnt really fit here

[lime raptor]

kingambit has sinlge handedly saved games for me

im only 1200 elo\

so its a nice crutch

[echo rampart]

well gambit does that haha

but as for technical synergy i feel like u functionally dont need gambit to sweep late game because ur team is full of ohko machines

[lime raptor]

tru

[echo rampart]

ofc if u wanna use the best mon ever made, go for it

[lime raptor]

ill get rid of it after i climb the ladder a bit

before hetran i was using lilagant hisui

[echo rampart]

a lot of sun teams use eject button hatterene for some free momentum early game + some healing wish later i think that would benefit u a lot

[lime raptor]

that worked pretty well

[lime raptor]

ah

ill try that

[echo rampart]

as for other sun abusers, ceruledge and blaziken are pretty good

https://pokepast.es/6638d8b66ce2b3d9 - obviously you dont have to use this, sun is very diverse, but this is what i usually use :P

[lime raptor]

i used ceruledge for a while to

slither wing is interesting

i usually cycle between diferent sun abusers

thanks alot

[echo rampart]

happy to help, lmk if u feel anything's still off

u can dm me too

[lime raptor]

aight

[distant tree]

https://pokepast.es/93042a130b687178
added latias for spd and psychic support

[limber spear]

prolly would go sub on moth over tb and booster en set on tusk (personally prefer power whip kn woger for 2 hit in dozo and overall better rolls

[distant tree]

Ty

Ill make the change

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/91ce676a3c698dc6

[terse widget]

https://pokepast.es/948a29440aa16fa3

[flat herald]

hi

hey

[jaunty raft]

Drop the team

[flat herald]

=== [gen9ubers] Team Crusaders ===

Roy (Blaziken) (M)
Ability: Speed Boost
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 Atk / 136 SpA / 24 SpD / 80 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

• Fire Punch
• Close Combat
• Brave Bird
• Double-Edge

Skippy (Breloom) (M)
Ability: Effect Spore
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Mach Punch
• Close Combat
• Poison Jab
• Body Slam

Shine (Espeon) (F)
Ability: Synchronize
Tera Type: Psychic
EVs: 40 HP / 124 Atk / 136 Def / 20 SpA / 104 SpD / 84 Spe
Timid Nature

• Double-Edge
• Psyshock
• Trailblaze
• Calm Mind

Duo (Decidueye) (M)
Ability: Overgrow
Level: 93
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 104 HP / 136 Atk / 16 Def / 112 SpA / 28 SpD / 112 Spe
Serious Nature

• Air Slash
• Shadow Ball
• Bullet Seed
• Dual Wingbeat

Ruby (Delphox) (F)
Ability: Magician
Level: 90
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 188 Atk / 80 Def / 28 SpA / 196 SpD / 16 Spe
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Psybeam
• Flamethrower
• Stored Power
• Psyshock

Ronaldo (Cinderace) (M)
Ability: Blaze
Level: 90
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 112 HP / 160 Atk / 20 Def / 156 SpA / 28 SpD / 32 Spe
Naive Nature

• High Jump Kick
• Pyro Ball
• Sucker Punch
• Flare Blitz

i put alot of personality

[paper chasm]

just use a team that someone else made

[flat herald]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-mario-phone-check-walk-gif-15818126186478764678

[paper chasm]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-sample-teams-new-samples-added-post-scl-and-olt.3712513/

[flat herald]

i'd personally rather a team that would reflect me than a team made by some other guy

[jaunty raft]

It's mostly to get the hang of how the tier plays like and stuff

[flat herald]

ah

[jaunty raft]

Cinderace is really good in ou you could yoink a team with it very easily

[paper chasm]

ok but your team makes 0 sense and any attempt at fixing it would result in a something completely different

[flat herald]

could i atleast keep Roy and Skippy, i dont care if i have to switch their moves or abillities could i atleast keep those two and work something around that

they are both fighting types

so like i could make a fighting type team

and they are both my favorite pokemons (Blaziken & Breloom)

[nocturne sable]

This isn’t even the channel for Ubers and even then this team is not viable at all

I recommend reading the comp rules and checking out competitive resources to have a better understanding of competitive Pokemon

[flat herald]

mb thats an older save

current is OU

[regal ginkgo]

OverUsed (Gen 9)

• Sample teams
• Viability rankings
• Speed tiers
• Role compendium
• Metagame discussion thread
• Discord
• Pokemon Showdown! room

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

[nocturne sable]

I recommend you check out the resources here^

[flat herald]

k

[nocturne sable]

Breaking power is non existent here. And I feel like the 3 flyings are unnecessary

Make Gliscor great tusk instead. Drop corv for a SD rillabooom to make this team stronger.

Then I would probably make gholdengo grassy seed here. Converting this to a gterrain team

[nocturne sable]

Oh yea sorry I forgot to reply to this. You can experiment with sini out the team for sure but what I like about sini here is the double spin blocking partner ship with dengo+relieving some pressure off woger for Mandi & skarm.

But dozo can work here as well giving you a proper fire resist for stuff like ace.

[limber spear]

oh thx

[deep locust]

https://pokepast.es/2a1b6d86300dba3f

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[deep locust]

I was shooting for a balance team but I play it more like offense. Any tips?

And if the team is fine as is thats cool

[final relic]

id make it ghost or poison lu

u dont need more water resist here

and zamazenta can get scary if it has tera fire to bypass pult

id make corv either idef or bulk up instead of uturn

since ting lu is the only thing that can temporarily stop dnite from rolling this over rn

cornerpon if its sturdy doesnt break beats some sets but it is unreliable

[deep locust]

What could fill ogerpon’s slot?

I just mainly had it as hard hitting beat stick

[final relic]

its fine as a breaker but lets see

could be a cm knock clef but usually you want max hazards with that

boots hrott gives you spikes but then its a bit overly weezing g weak

[autumn hare]

Tera fire Zama seems decent

[final relic]

hdb wake is an option but opposing oger is sketchy still

you don’t really want to have no knock user whatsoever even on a team like this with the only hazard being rocks

[autumn hare]

Rai

[final relic]

i rlly dont like the hazard situation here where 3 or 4 mons are hazard weak and only removal corv

opposing lu just throws all spikes up then brings ghold vs corv

id add a weezing in there somewhere maybe over prim

[quartz lark]

https://pokepast.es/c794770723a22474

[nocturne sable]

Looks standard. Not much to comment

Speed tiers will probably be annoying since your entire team is outspeed by torn,pult,weavile,rai,zama etc

You can probably make iron valiant vacuum wave here to patch up priority

[jade cedar]

https://pokepast.es/4759e38d93837e9e

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @nocturne sable, @final relic, @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @inner terrace, @alpine hornet, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne sable]

Cinderace as sole removal on a Lokix team is just going to screw you over.

Btw you have double knock off on your Lokix moveset. Perhaps it was meant to be sucker punch?? Leech life??

[jade cedar]

oh yeah I didn't notice that, it's supposed to be sucker punch, actually yeah I after I noticed it you're right, maybe switch ace and zap with tusk and corv?

[nocturne sable]

Ace is fine here I’m just saying it should be your sole source of hazard removal

I’m thinking maybe you replace ting Lu with great tusk here.

Also think I would try tealpon here for that speed control

[jade cedar]

what set?

[nocturne sable]

Regular with stealth rock spin

[jade cedar]

tealpon instead of woger?

[nocturne sable]

Yea

[jade cedar]

boots set?

[nocturne sable]

Yea for that voltTurn core

[jade cedar]

So I should keep zap?

[nocturne sable]

Oh yea you can keep zap for now

[unborn root]

Hey

What's your opinion about this team?

Do it need to be improved?

https://pokepast.es/650428d68f01f766

[torpid pasture]

https://pokepast.es/1301949a632f397f

hiiii folks

i made this

what's your thoughts on my team?

[unborn root]

Tera fight is better in dozo

To check better king

( dark and Ghost teras)

It deoends if you want cover dark Tera,then use body press

If you dont have issues with waterpon use waterfall/ liq( this last one is prefered by more PP)

Or wave Crash if you want do more dmg

Anyways i think pex should be grass Tera

To walk sd knock waterpon

Because your only chance against It its latias,and water is more faster

You can't take +2 knock off

You Will be forced to tera

Anyways be careful with encore sets

I recommend CM- shadow ball/ flamethower for gholdenho

With your current team if It is in a good position its 6-0

Knock off Darkrai could be a problem too

Even nast y plot Darkrai without CM BLISS

[terse widget]

This team is surprisingly doing well

https://pokepast.es/7b95a594a0e8cb37

plz someone rate it and identify its weeknesses and instant loss machups

[jade cedar]

a bit too weak to ice for my liking, you do have scizor but it's not going to last forever

[nocturne sable]

This looks decent ngl. Not much to comment on

[unborn root]

I feel would need some kind of hazard

But no there is slot to choice

If i Lose Payback i Will Lost vs Air baloon dengo

[nocturne sable]

Just run regular rocks ting Lu with payback>>ruination if you care much about balloon dengo

[unborn root]

But i need sleep Talk

Because if i Lose sleep Talk i Will be weak when he sleeps

[nocturne sable]

You don’t need sleep talk Imo

[unborn root]

Really?

I could try it

Anyways i am not sure if every ou team needs hazards

[nocturne sable]

I mean… hazards are kinda mandatory for every team style

[unborn root]

Yes,but for this team im not sure is a good idea wear hazards

Because i dont have knock off to take advantage of them

And this team ita a bit weak to hazards so It would be easy for conde just court change

Anyways could be good to help VS some matchups

[nocturne sable]

Meh it doesn’t matter. Knock users isn’t super mandatory unless you’re running a team reliant on max hazards

[unborn root]

Yeah,like hazard stack

This isn't this one

I could try sr ting lu

[nocturne sable]

You need at least a stealth rock user for almost every team. especially a balance team like you’re running