SV OU Rates

[stone sierra]

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[robust dome]

https://pokepast.es/ec347f71bfc320cb - Kyurem Veil offense team.

[nocturne sable]

Is this not a standard scizor set??

Btw I feel like I have seen this team before on ladder, are you sure it’s yours?

[somber sapphire]

It's the life orb set with Heavy-duty boots and 248 HP252 Atk8 SpD evs slapped onto it.

[hot dome]

no

utility is a set now

now, this set is neither of them, but honestly boots scizor isnt the worst

[nocturne sable]

SD Scor can still run heavy duty boots im pretty sure.

[nocturne sable]

Just put the evs in speed

[stone sierra]

It’s kinda similar to a pinkacross team

4/6 same mons and similar thundy set

Someone unrelated tried to pass it off as their own a while ago here

[nocturne sable]

Hmm ic

[wide girder]

https://pokepast.es/6a5182cf99cb4d92 hello I am looking to improve this team for ladd in OU what are the tips or modifications that you could advise me?

[tame hare]

tbh yeah his team was what inspired this but i tried to build around a band samurott and thundy w/o vs

[worn lark]

This team sucks because i don’t like slither wing

[limber spear]

👎slither looks good

doesn’t change the fact that it walls lando gambit tusk and stuff

besides tb flying lando

[worn lark]

No it’s a good pokemon i just don’t like it

It doesnt have nearly the power of cb rilla or dd ekiller drag or cb lokix or black glassessucker punch or you get the point i dont find it a strong priority user

I understand it does have a niche tho

[limber spear]

it’s more of a defensive pivot with the ability to threaten ohko on woger or krai

[faint vortex]

Hello there, have a hydrapple fat team I have built and tested. Seems decent, though was hoping to get advice on it https://pokepast.es/2ee3ed16ed3705ff

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @empty verge, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[trail whale]

Veil is more suited for hyper offence, Atales can't come in often and pivoting around isn't using those 8 turns as effectively. Your own Defog also removes your own screens
you should make the Ninetales a Great Tusk to get some more hazard control and improve your Kingambit & Raging Bolt match up.

Ceruledge looks very out of place after that, you'd want speed control like Deoxys or Scarf Latios that can effectively force Zamazenta out (which gets to come in too much vs Kyurem and Kingambit).

[trail whale]

Ice Spinner 252 Atk Iron Treads is much more effective than Volt Switch, otherwise you just lose to Zapdos anyway.

Basculegion is kinda ass, it's slower than stuff like Booster Iron Valiant so it has a lot less pressure and just kind of outdone by Barraskewda.

Balloon Kingambit > Keldeo, you have 0 Freeze-Dry switch ins and water spam is far from great with how good Waterpon is.

then probably a second Waterpon resist like Dnite or Kyurem over your own Waterpon, Barra is all the water damage you need

[trail whale]

I think main issue I see is that Raging Bolt comes in vs everything and threatens a lot. The team also doesn't have a very good way to output damage, no immidiete pressure which can force you to be on the backfoot often, something you never want to do in sv.

I'd recommend SD Gliscor > Moltres to give you a Raging Bolt check and increase your threat level in general. also gives you a shaky knock absorber if it comes down to that.

[faint vortex]

Thank you for the feedback. I can certainly make the change. Should I make it SP Def scor?

Another question, with removing moltres, don't I become weaker to zama and gambit?

What if I switched tusk with treads, would that help against bolt?

[trail whale]

I don't think it's to a major degree, you already have your own Great Tusk + Alomomola, webs Tera Ghost Kingambit is very strong

[faint vortex]

Sorry, I'm a bit confused. Are you saying webs Kingambit with tera ghost is good against my team?

[trail whale]

oh sorry, meant to type also

but it's a good mon to abuse vs Zamazenta

[faint vortex]

Ahhhh ok, yes I've realized it is quite good against zama, not so much i Def but still decent

[faint vortex]

I have a another question. Is my team too slow?

[trail whale]

should be fine your defensive core is very fat

[faint vortex]

Fair enough. Thank you again for your help, it is greatly appreciated

[magic walrus]

https://pokepast.es/da3a74e73e386a28 need help with this team (dont change sinis plz)

i should probs replace gking with ting to improve against ghol or somethin

[tacit bluff]

This team lacks a lot of breaking power icl

You only have specs pult but everything else is playing a long game

Sinis isn't rly a sweeper in the traditional sense albeit it certainly can, but it's usually used to check things and maybe take a lategame

But you need to force the position to be a lategame first

Especially because it's your only sweeper

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/9958f5357534d97a

[tacit bluff]

Idm ting lu on this team tbh

It can also give you spikes pressure

But then I feel you're putting too much on sinis that it can't rly handle

Sinis becomes ur woger check your only sweeper and your most reliable spinblocker

[tacit bluff]

Hmmmm

Kinda similar problem to the one above

Not a lot of progress making tools here

Ig you have curse garg

Which is p good

Why wellspring btw

Encore no sd is kinda odd

[limber spear]

oh i was replicating woger bolt core

also water resist

what could make progress over woger

(also tysm for not questioning slither )

i feel like i have a win con in garg and i don’t enjoy 2 wincons a lot

so yeah cuz if i run rocks garg i would either run rest talk lu or spikes lu(spikes makes me need a spin blocker which is annoying)

• anti synergy(a bit) due to defog*

[tacit bluff]

I wouldn't go spikes lu ye

[tacit bluff]

It's a wincon that usually needs another one icl

[limber spear]

😭

[tacit bluff]

Since it can struggle a lot into certain structures

[limber spear]

do i just go sd>encore on woger

[tacit bluff]

It's great into offence but other teams It's just

Eeeehhh

Salt cure defo helps it against balance

[tacit bluff]

Honestly that's what I'm thinking

[limber spear]

🤔 yeah that’s works

thanks

[tacit bluff]

It's okkkkk here igggg

Wisp is nice but gweezing is there too

[limber spear]

🤔 i wanna use slither

[tacit bluff]

Yeah I figured

[limber spear]

and that’s like the main move to chose

[tacit bluff]

It's why I didn't say anything

[limber spear]

[tacit bluff]

It competes with kix and scizor but idt those two are necessary

Your offence mu is good

Granted slither is also kinda anti offence

Hmmm actually

I like encore wellspring

Sd encore

Drop knock

Encore helps you exploit balance cores a tad more

[limber spear]

erm i see

do i run toxic on weezing

and run lefties tect

[tacit bluff]

Wisp is fine

I'm inclined to dropping slither for kix or scizor but eeehhh

[limber spear]

pls. no

[tacit bluff]

My issue is

I think you need encore

Couple that with salt cure garg that should definitely help ur balance mu

But having no knock is a tad sus

[limber spear]

what if i drop lati🤔

[tacit bluff]

I think lati is necessary here

It's a pivot and strong speed control

Pult is an option

[limber spear]

cuz psychic is a bad type to be locked into

dengo causes chaos to the team

[tacit bluff]

I mean yeah but luster purge is kinda op

You could go specs pult

[tacit bluff]

Yeah that's partially why I'm inclined to dropping slither icl

[limber spear]

not a fan of specs pult

[tacit bluff]

Lokix threatens down dengo much harder

[limber spear]

😭between strength and liking

ok so what if i wanna rebuilt around slither would u recommend any core or stuff

[tacit bluff]

Urrr

Hmmm

[limber spear]

pinkstork suggested weez garg slither

[tacit bluff]

Ye that's not bad

I'm thinking like

Bootspam maybe

[limber spear]

what will be my absorber tho

[tacit bluff]

Slither gliscor

[limber spear]

oh i see

[tacit bluff]

Sd scor mayhaps

[limber spear]

wilted rose emoji

[tacit bluff]

Boots raging bolt

Some scarfer

[limber spear]

ah i see

[tacit bluff]

Sounds kinda lit

You maybe don't even need a scarfer actually

Just some faster mon

[limber spear]

pult then

does av prima work

[tacit bluff]

Boots pult

Well av needs to be careful of hazards

Deo s could unironically be good too

Yeah actually I kinda like that

[limber spear]

so scor wing bolt deox

i see thanks

[tacit bluff]

Two more to cover some holes

[limber spear]

[tacit bluff]

Some defensive piece

Garg still seems p good here

[limber spear]

need a ghost resist

yeah

[tacit bluff]

But as a rocker

And then 1 more

[limber spear]

and a spdef

glowking

[tacit bluff]

It'll depend on what the team is weak to

I can't rly visualise it in my head

So we got

[limber spear]

why do i feel like deox-s hits soft

[tacit bluff]

Slither scor bolt deo s

Garg

[tacit bluff]

Not with plot and a psycho boost

[limber spear]

double win con i see

[tacit bluff]

If you rllly want it could be smth else

I'm thinking about the balance mu

Cause your anti offence is good

You could make it mixed with taunt idk

Boots volcanion fr fr but then you need speed control

[limber spear]

nah what ever u say is good i am fine with it

[tacit bluff]

Try deo s

Make scor spdef spread btw

[limber spear]

👍

[tacit bluff]

And last mon can be uhhhhh

[limber spear]

clodsire

[tacit bluff]

Good try but no 💔

Could be zama

Try it out

I think garg scor bolt slither are all fine

Deo s is droppable if it ends up being a bit meh

Last slot is whatever you need

[limber spear]

[magic walrus]

Si what can I do to improve

NP hydra?

[trail whale]

there are a lot of directions you can take the team, and I feel like I'll be taking out too much of your team rating it.

I'd build with inspiration from the Sinistcha sample teams, even better if you use them on ladder and figure out why they have x and y choices

[magic walrus]

Just want it to be like a balance wise team

[trail whale]

still the same feedback tbh

[magic walrus]

Oh

I’ll just try and mess around it or sumthing

[jolly vortex]

https://pokepast.es/1fd25ec6b20eb343 any advice, idk if glimmora is right on this team

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @empty verge, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[magic walrus]

https://pokepast.es/edbe6bd596e5d2b0 I reworked this team.

[faint vortex]

https://pokepast.es/87a38015ee6fe82a Hazard stack lu skarm gking core with Ogerpon-G and gambit. Thoughts on this squad?

[elder knoll]

You need some sort of reliable speed control and Gambit check

Skarm probably is going to lose to Tera ghost gambit

[elder knoll]

Your hazard stack is missing a knocker

[wooden mountain]

U could use Zama over gambit for this

[magic walrus]

Can I just use knock tusk?

[jaunty granite]

https://pokepast.es/fd0792cf90a6fd5a another dumb sun attempt from me

at least it's not banded ace this time

as long as mon 1 stays I'm cool w whatever changes

[faint vortex]

Been using zama on many teams and been wanting to use other mons if possible

Maybe could try dnite or something

[trail whale]

I dont like Ghold as a Grassy Seed mon at all, Calm Mind sweepers like Raging Bolt and Hatterene abuse it much more effectively because they become very hard to revenge kill. most notably, Gholdengo cant do much to Darkrai or Specs Dragapult revenge killing it. Raging Bolt also notably helps with the birds that kind of farm Hawlucha, It also better threats Tera Flying Dragonite which murders the whole team right now.

Waterpon should probably be an SD Glide set, or at least have grass coverage if its going to be on grassy terrain

Hawlucha is never enough as a Kingambit check Id say, you want to be pullingoff sweeps and chipping their team down for your partners. Id run Zamazenta in the Glimmora slot to give you a blanket check to Pokemon in general.

Also Heatran should be Air Balloon so you can play better vs Kyurem.

[trail whale]

Id look into SpD Clefable over AV Iron Crown, still handles Kyurem but its not vulnerable to opposing hazards, can act as a Knock absorber, and can Knock Off boots / use Rocks and free the slot on Tusk.

Also on a Sinistcha team, Dtail Dragonite feels kinda kinda reduntant and weak, my instinct points to CM Latios as a really effective breaker that can help Dragapult overwhelm Ting-Lu. This does notably make your sun match up weaker so Id run a water-resistant Tera type on TingLu

[faint vortex]

@trail whale can I get your advice on this team?

[outer pagoda]

https://pokepast.es/10d879d27f17c881 potential final slot? i'm torn on what to add

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @empty verge, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wooden linden]

Sorry we dont rate incomplete teams

[outer pagoda]

oh oops mb

[deep locust]

https://pokepast.es/0cb95f2da88c928e

A rain team I cooked up and has been doing well in low - mid ladder. Main issue I'm not sure how to fix (if it can be) is the Kingambit matchup

[magic dome]

the biggest thing that stood out to me was a lack of ground resist + in general, a really tough mu vs great tusk

i recommend a moltres in the last slot here. it especially helps vs tusk, kyurem, and more niche things like heatran, band pult, and stuff like garg and zama that you might want to phaze out

Moltres @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Def / 148 SpD / 12 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Flamethrower
• Will-O-Wisp
• Roar
• Roost

evs + nature can change but these are the moves and tera types id go with here

[magic dome]

gambit is notoriously tough for rain to beat, but theres a few things you can change here to help out in the matchup:

• bolt > zap; bolt is super threatening in the rain, bulky enough to take a hit from gambit pre tera, and has its own priority in thunderclap to outspeed sucker punch
• encore on ogerpon; whenever kingambit switches in to revenge kill one of the swift swimmers with sucker punch, you can hard switch ogerpon and encore it into sucker punch, you can use this opportunity to set up with swords dance (and very little can switch into a +2 cudgel in the rain)
• keldeo > kingdra; not my first choice but if your looking for the easiest solution to kingambit here, this is probably your answer. you resist everything and depending on the gambit set, specs keld can one shot it with surf even if gambit teras

i do generally recommend running sd oger on a team like this, it really helps vs some matchups and creates a nasty breaking core with skewda

[deft kestrel]

can someone give me any advice to improve this team? https://pokepast.es/4fbbcefec23d92e7 ty

[narrow crest]

https://pokepast.es/7bbbff3a89fe8285

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @empty verge, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[faint vortex]

Anyone able to offer opinions on this hazard stack team? Got some feedback yesterday, but thinking I need more eyes on this. Thanks in advance! https://pokepast.es/87a38015ee6fe82a

[trail whale]

Zamazenta > Kingambit is a very simple but effective change
gives you the speed control and reliable Kingambit check stork mentioned, and also synergises with Fsight Slowking to help you break teams better

[faint vortex]

Someone else also made this suggestion. I am a bit zama fatigued, but it is really good. Should I go I def or boots?

[trail whale]

Boots, helps you come in to click buttons more often

[trail whale]

what are you trying to build around
I'm a bit lost looking at this team

[faint vortex]

Makes sense, gave it ice fang to deal with lando and gliscor more effectively

[trail whale]

Band Weavile seems very off, loses too much momentum when you don't have the strongest defensive backbone, when a resist eats Its hits, you're on the backfoot with Moltres and Hatterene as your defensive pieces, you won't be getting the most value out of Weavile. You also get really screwed over by Zapdos. I'd look into using Raging Bolt instead, which can adequately take on Dragonite's and Pecharunt's checks and maintain momentum with Volt Switch

you don't have a Magilicent Chain switch in and are running Zamazenta, Hatt probably feels outshined by Gking when you drop the Weavile and lets you run Weather Ball Specs Bolt.

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @empty verge, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tacit bluff]

Was about to rate that

😭

[round timber]

https://pokepast.es/81eed09d1d04f12d

wrong before, this is ts creme de la creme of pokepast

[tacit bluff]

Well

I don't think this is bad

Maybe a couple changes

I feel this team gets a bit pressured by hstack

You have two choice breakers one of whom rly doesn't appreciate hazards and so I feel you could maybe lose a long game

Buuuuttt

They are two very powerful choice breakers

So you may actually be fine as long as you preserve your pieces

Some mons can be rly scary tho

Mixed iron valiant can be an issue for this squad

Icl

[round timber]

Sludge bomb counter ez

[tacit bluff]

That's the only line tho

And that's why I said mixed because knock off can still cause problems

[round timber]

Heavy slam into oblivion, BUT Tera could take my doggo to suplex city

[tacit bluff]

Mhm

You gotta watch out for that

[round timber]

right

[tacit bluff]

I will say also scald instead of mirror coat on alo is probably better

[round timber]

alright

[tacit bluff]

Mirror coat is usually on assault vest variants

Scald allows you to fish for burns if need be

And is more consistent

[round timber]

changed

[tacit bluff]

But generally I think this is good

[round timber]

Tanks 🩵

[tacit bluff]

It takes some finesse to play tho

[round timber]

Finesse got it

[tacit bluff]

Like knowing when to sac a mon to get a breaker or Kingambit in safely

And some matchups rely a lot on a single mon

Like iron valiant

So preservation becomes key

Plus some other stuff like making sure you can pressure balance teams before they wear down your resources in that matchup you wanna preserve alomomola at all costs

Cause that's your only tool in the long game against hazard stack balance

[round timber]

bet

[tacit bluff]

You should be fine tho

Be careful of ogerpon but Zamazenta can jump it with a banded cc and catch it lackin

And so can kyurem obviously

[round timber]

ye

[tacit bluff]

So yeah

I don't see any obvious changes here

Just as long as you know what ur doing

[round timber]

yes ma'am

[tacit bluff]

Team is good just harder to play is the tldr

[wooden linden]

https://pokepast.es/a5d60e4ee62e5766
been laddering with this team with pretty decent success here

might try to mess with how i can handle bolt and kyu easier

also zapdos its rough vs it

[low aspen]

https://pokepast.es/b2cbd47d2e380f43

after remake

[wooden linden]

https://pokepast.es/8fce562f33600540
i'd def sub out the alo here. its a bit too passive and wellspring already does pretty good for a water so it'd be better with a glowking

i would want to take out the hydrei but im pretty sure you want to keep it

[jaunty granite]

Bump

[wooden linden]

ok so i really dont see much of a need of hydreigon here

https://pokepast.es/aec06a3327175761
i'd say to take it out with gambit here

av tusk isnt all that needed so av slither was a nice alternative with more bulk and priority

decided modest wake would do the trick since it really amplifies the wall breaking here

also i would say if you really dont care for the whimm its best to take it out for venu here

[limber spear]

https://psim.us/t/1264294 tried some h stack in an more offensive route

pokepaste didnt work for me so 😢

[wooden linden]

https://pokepast.es/f3cbbc62218a82a9
i'd prob do smth like this

lorb tornt is here since treads can usually keep the hazards off and it helps with the power of bleakwind

[limber spear]

i see thanks

isnt hex better than sball on pech

[wooden linden]

not neccesarily

sball is more reliable against stuff it cant poison

[limber spear]

fair enough

cuz dengo is easier to kill if sball

[jaunty granite]

I usually dislike not having a ground immune (yes ik I have two resists) and w tusk as the AV guy at the time instead of slither I needed a rocker

Hydra did both and didn’t stack grounds and was also a ghost res

But I figured set tweaks would be the key

Is tales as my only fairy resist enough?

[wooden linden]

yeah that was why i was thinking venu would work over whimm

i think you should be fine vs grounds since slither and tusk can handle majority of physical ground types

[jaunty granite]

Word

I imagine there’s nothing I could rly do to fix the fairy problem besides venu

Ceru would be hard to slot in here I feel

I remember aim did a vid a while back with the super based fezandipiti sun

[wooden linden]

idt fezan could really fit here unfortunately

[jaunty granite]

Mind elaborating for knowledge’s sake? I’m historically not much of an offense player bc I suck at handling it a lot of the time

[wooden linden]

fezan isnt a bad mon per say but realistically venu really helps at punishing grounds like tusk and such

[jaunty granite]

Oh also isn’t the team kinda slow w/o speed booster wake or is it fine as is

[wooden linden]

fezan is bulky but it cant do much back other than pivot

and it really makes the ground weakness really noticable

[jaunty granite]

Fair

[wooden linden]

plus you have av slither and ninetales for spdef tanking

not a bad mon just doesnt really fit on majority of sun teams

[jaunty granite]

Wbout this

[wooden linden]

sun should be active most of the time so venu and tusk should be able to outspeed most things

the stuff you cant are threatened by sucker gambit

[jaunty granite]

[tawny girder]

https://pokepast.es/b72bab3ab7c7349e

I want to know if I have anything to improve on my team.

[hot dome]

???

[tawny girder]

I just want to know your opinions

[chilly shore]

this is a gimmick obviously but i've been playing a lot with a monotype flying team in OU and it's fun as hell but i feel like it definitely has a lotta flaws

https://pokepast.es/4ed5682d6dd38a90

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @empty verge, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tacit bluff]

We can't rly rate gimmick teams without basically telling you to drop the gimmick

[chilly shore]

that's pretty fair but i mean, i'd really appreciate a look at items and stat streads at least, those shouldn't be a problem, no?

[tacit bluff]

I mean some of the sets could use some work

But this channel is for optimised teams

Like if you want me to rate this I'd have to tell you to drop the mono flying gimmick

If you wanna keep it then this isn't the channel

[hot dome]

at that point just play monotype

[tacit bluff]

^^^

[jaunty granite]

Yea just put this in the monotype thread

[jaunty granite]

Respectfully, this is very, very bad

Way too passive, most of the sets are nonfunctional, and you’re so unbelievably slow

https://pokepast.es/971334edae95bb0f if you wanna use sand specifically this team is much more worth your time

Tho I would recommend the sample teams more tbh

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-sample-teams-new-samples-added-post-wcop.3712513/

These will give you a better handle on the meta

[tacit bluff]

most of the sets are ok tbh

well ok

actually

only lando and pex are

exca ig is

fine

yeah nvm

[jaunty granite]

I was not aware AV pex was a thing tbf

But it’s still out of place here

[hot dome]

av pex is an incredibly niche set which definitely does not fit yeah

[jaunty granite]

Peeped the analysis and yea ig full stall it could make sense

[tacit bluff]

welcome to sv ❤️

[jaunty granite]

I do not engage in cringe stall gameplay

Did not realize

[somber sapphire]

bro is running sludge bomb and surf on toxapex

[wooden mountain]

That’s AV pex which is valid but specific to Defog stall

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/1a9afcb1472e4d96 tried for the more bulkier team with fez cuz analysis said it fits best there

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @empty verge, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber spear]

ting lu is causing trouble ngl and i am thinking of mb fez cuz it hits tusk/lando/zama/val better overall(also spa drop is decent)

[trail whale]

I think your team wants Boots Tusk to spin more times for your team

Waterpon kinda rolls you I'd look into Roost Dnite > Corv, Corv would feel too pressured to act as the primary Ogerpon check. Dnite also gives you a better sun match up.

Pult + Darkrai as your offensive Pokemon, makes sense why you're struggling vs Ting-Lu. Shouting out Low Kick Kingambit so you keep a ghost resist but you can do a couple of different combinations

[limber spear]

tysm for the advice but do i run normal 252hp gambit

[trail whale]

I'd run 252 Spe but up to you

I think Moonblast is worth it in your team, at least after my changes it would become difficult to switch into Great Tusk and you want to ensure its getting minimal opportunities to come in that way

[limber spear]

i feel like those gambit speed tiers r sniped too much but i can try

wont hurt

[limber spear]

fair enough

anyways thanks

[slate igloo]

https://pokepast.es/f37d0c4ebf8dd430
?

[limber spear]

dozo/gloking and choice items arent rlly good for ho

dozo is exclusive to fat balance/stall due to passive nature

[jaunty granite]

Yea that’s not rly HO just a few setup mons paired w a dozo and potentially the worst gking set I’ve ever seen

And also a scarf kyu with shadow ball fsr

Running choiced kyurem and sash ceru without even a hat for hazard control is also a huge yikes

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/2223afd3e9115006 surely i cooked this one( i saw ausma's vid about rest talk sam and sounds cool

[jaunty granite]

Resttalk hamu

[limber spear]

idk

even after i tested its just ham

walls gambit/dengo a lot better tho

[gray karma]

https://pokepast.es/2fb8fc5cadbb9eab is this team good ?

[regal ginkgo]

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[elder knoll]

😔 where are the sneaky pebbles

[somber sapphire]

You don't have any hazard setter aside from hamurott
so run this tusk set
Great Tusk @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Jolly Nature

• Headlong Rush
• Ice Spinner
• Rapid Spin
• Stealth Rock

you'll lose a knocker
but eh

[gray karma]

I run Hisuian Samurott for entry hazards setter with ceaseless edge, idk if works too

[outer pagoda]

https://pokepast.es/a23ed9157a12a404

[obtuse adder]

https://pokepast.es/579414a16f88d1c7 how should I make this rain team better?

[elder knoll]

You need speed control

[jaunty granite]

Rocks + spin treads over sciz

You lack hazards and also rn bolt will steamroll you unless you tera

Treads keeps your hazard control while also giving you hazards of your own and a no tera required electric immune

Volcanion if it stays should be at least 96 speed to outrun max speed adamant gambit

But prob just go max speed tbh

I would also personally prefer wisp to taunt but others who are better informed might tell you otherwise

[outer pagoda]

Could scarf ghold work?

[robust dome]

https://pokepast.es/3c63f597559353f5 - Webs offense with Specs galvantula + banded lando t
Did some playtesting and this team has performed really really well soo far in the 1400s

[regal ginkgo]

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[somber sapphire]

specs sticky web

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[limber spear]

bump

[nocturne sable]

I’m going to be honest. Galvantula is unviable and why would you run choice specs and sticky webs on the same moveset.

Double bug is also not really good. Most Bug types outside of maybe Lokix and slither wing are super fringe.

You also have no web abuser and a bunch of defensive mons( AV treads) and a boots kyurem for some reason.

Some of the mons here can fit on web structures though like pecharunt for example, but pecharunt on these structures run max speed nasty plot.

I recommend looking at samples and other smogon resources to see what standard web teams look like

[narrow crest]

https://pokepast.es/c5b23f56fecfaae5

[narrow crest]

https://pokepast.es/19d0f51dfdedf901

got this too lol

first real attempt at balance

[harsh raft]

looks pretty good for a first try

might struggle a bit with ho

u can try like twave ghold > pult and dnite > slowking if that's the case

Dnite gives priority while still being into weather

[tawny girder]

could this works?

https://pokepast.es/c2c700ab08a456bc

[limber spear]

no removal

esp when u have woger and vest mons

[slate jolt]

Hello! I wanted to make a gen 9 ou hazard stack cuz i never have built around hamurott

https://pokepast.es/ad8eb599dbeeae70

[elder knoll]

You need a spin blocker

[slate jolt]

there is antisynergy b/w moonlight and snow

oh i thought u could build hazard stack teams where u can just get them up again as long as u can force progress on the spinner

but yeah maybe i should add a pech or sinistcha

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/cbdc09110b58d883

[regal ginkgo]

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[limber spear]

thinking of using sacred sword sword over aqua cutter to deal with gambit safer and t spikes over whirl on moth to gives extra support to the team

[gritty lake]

Why is there a gliscor on this

[trail whale]

why are you SpD Moth 😭

[limber spear]

i am proud that spdef mon caught your eye not the ham

gives me a more solid fairy and ice res

[trail whale]

better as a steel type !! you're quad weak to EP so still 6-0d by Kyurem

[limber spear]

could run lu but it absorbs knock better while also able to knock

what steel could work here

[trail whale]

Gliscor isn't the most consistent Knock absorber since you're facing Waterpon, Weavile, Hrott, so I'd end up recommending TingSkarm > HamuScor and kinda defeating the purpose of the team

[limber spear]

🤔

idk what team can slot in rest talk ham

when its facing competetion from rest lu

[trail whale]

Gambit and Scizor are the main Steels that come to mind but w Skarm you can also just take any ice resist

[limber spear]

does it work if i just go scizor>moth

or what do i replace for skarm(is it ham)

does it work if i go skarm>scor and fit in spdef av treads over moth

[frozen spoke]

https://pokepast.es/73053ce6ddc5c8d1 Ogerpon W hazard stack

[regal ginkgo]

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[frozen spoke]

This team feels a bit Raging Bolt weak, and I don’t know if I can fit priority on this team, any advice?

[wooden linden]

ok so i think the main issue here is that theres no hazard control

wellspring gets really chipped and the bootspam here doesn't really support it so you should prob get a spinner

[frozen spoke]

Got it

[wooden linden]

i really dont care for sinistcha being here given so imo pecharunt should be the better pick here

allows you to pivot and still be bulky vs some stuff like wellspring and zama

[frozen spoke]

I chose sinistcha mainly bc I was worried having two ground weak mons would hurt the defensive core

But I do like the better Wellspring and Zama matchups

Having a spinner could also let me run specs on Kyurem

[wooden linden]

idt the ground weakness should be too bad since wellspring scares majority of them out here

[frozen spoke]

Oh yeah Wellspring + Gliscor should be good here for ground switchins

[wooden linden]

also for heatran i'd prob change it into a kingambit here

theres not really a ghost resist and it helps out vs ghosts for zama

[frozen spoke]

Gotcha

[wooden linden]

put rocks on gliscor and make it a utility set with eq and such

also prob give wellspring u-turn over synthesis here to have a solid pivot mon

[eager plaza]

https://pokepast.es/6b4242c9baf966c2

i made webs HO using ghost tera blast dragonite with low kick, i am kinda weak to ceruledge tho

[wooden mountain]

https://pokepast.es/91bd6dc6b2bfeeb5
Tried to build around CB meow

[outer pagoda]

https://pokepast.es/742e13ebb9ca0b59 latios and np pech bulky hazard stack

[regal ginkgo]

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[limber spear]

no knocker on a h stack kinda hurts

[gritty lake]

Kinda?

[tacit bluff]

No not kinda

You need one

Also like

5 of the 6 members of this team are very afraid of primarina

Well ok

Kingambit isn't a bad mu

But it's not a good one

The rest are kinda scared of it barring pecharunt

[outer pagoda]

shit i have no idea how i overlooked it, i hyper focused on speed control

[elder knoll]

Zama should probably be iron press

and Moltres spdef

[somber sapphire]

where is the team

i don't see it

[limber spear]

😭 they r just trying to find the team

[amber terrace]

Hi this is my take on a "Choice Band Rillaboom + Ursaluna Bulky Offense" team, i would greatly appreciate any sort of feedback
https://pokepast.es/7ca0bbd9945e56aa

[regal ginkgo]

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[amber terrace]

🥲 🙏

[somber sapphire]

there it is!

[worn lark]

Doesnt sub kyruem eat this team

Ig you can stop it with tera

[jaunty granite]

Kyu in general looks pretty unfun for this

You have one thing faster without a boost

[somber sapphire]

This team when kyurem:

https://tenor.com/view/evil-con-carne-bunny-island-explosion-cartoon-network-gif-7599233435695217349

[wooden linden]

looking through this i'd say go air balloon on gambit and take iron head out for kowtow

you should be fine vs fairies so theres not a need to have sucker as your only dark move

i'd also make ghold and enam modest here since the extra power is very appreciated

and spell tag on dnite really helps with breaking past some stuff like tusk

[wooden linden]

https://pokepast.es/393e42ceb70b77e9
i'd go with this revision if you really wanna keep the ursaluna

hawlucha wasn't really needed here so i decided to add a av tornt to help with the overall tankiness of the team

kyurem shouldnt be too bad with tera ice tusk and with the solid ice resistances here

if you dont want the ursaluna i'd say go with bulky cm prim here as it can be a potent sweeper against a lot of bulky teams

[crystal bane]

https://pokepast.es/6ffb8f7d33227927
is my team good or should i change some mons

[regal ginkgo]

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[wooden mountain]

A spinblocker is mandatory on webs. Also cinder court change on webs is 🤮

[crystal bane]

alright so gholdengo?

[wooden mountain]

Yea

Boots Weavile needs rocks/spikes support to be effective

Idt I’m good enough to confidently give more advice

[worn lark]

Why do you want to court change webs to your own side

U dont even have any contrary mons

I think you can also get away with adamant weavile and tusk

The tusk isnt mandatory, webs are one of basically 1.5 archetypes that can forgo removal

Cinderace for defensive air balloon ghold and tusk for another abuser

Maybe booster spa iron moth since you have no fairy resist

That means no prio tho, tough one

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/1b6413046b0eacf9 this ham is causing me to go insane

could go knock on clef or torn cuz treads seems doing too much every game

stall mu is kinda tough but didn’t face much during testing

[limber spear]

also dengo and gambit is kinda tough

[gritty lake]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[limber spear]

😭 i refuses sorry

[nocturne sable]

Court change cinder on webs isn’t that crazy if you’re using like contray specs enamorus or defiant kingambit or something but it’s pretty gimmicky

[tacit bluff]

And with the former you have to tera to boost from ur own webs

[nocturne sable]

Oh yea that’s true. But its fine specs enam is a demon even without the Tera. Just Tera when you have the free turn to do so then switch back in and late game sweep

[limber spear]

anyways bump

thinking if krai would be better than lati

[cold cosmos]

https://pokepast.es/765a322e8f81a87a

[regal ginkgo]

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[crystal siren]

hi! just started on getting into comp PKMN, how does my team look?

Porygon-Z @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Adaptability
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature

• Agility
• Tera Blast
• Ice Beam
• Thunderbolt

Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Swords Dance
• Close Combat
• Crunch
• Extreme Speed

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Ability: Infiltrator
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature

• Nasty Plot
• Trick Room
• Dark Pulse
• Tera Blast

Glaceon @ Never-Melt Ice
Ability: Ice Body
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Freeze-Dry
• Calm Mind
• Mud Shot
• Alluring Voice

Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 248 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature

• Scald
• Dragon Tail
• Flip Turn
• Recover

Garchomp @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Swords Dance
• Fire Fang
• Scale Shot
• Earthquake

just put it together myself on showdown-

[limber spear]

emm it would be better to use pokepaste so the chat isnt flooded

!shareteam

[regal ginkgo]

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[cold cosmos]

https://pokepast.es/765a322e8f81a87a

[wooden mountain]

I’m sorry but only garchomp is viable out of the 6

This team might be fun for you, but you have to be willing to have it optimised and use meta mons

[magic walrus]

https://pokepast.es/30e2134403776bfb I love breaking stall with this

This team still needs improvement tho (late response)

[wooden mountain]

How has gholdengo and pult been for your team, thought with Darkrai as the only ghost resist they may be irritating

[magic walrus]

so what other options can i do (sin i thought of tryin darkrai to deal with pult)

garg? that would get cooked by ghold then

[wooden mountain]

I really don’t trust myself but hamurott looks good

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/fc63d08391d6d9d9 🙁

[regal ginkgo]

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[magic walrus]

I mean I can see ham working but then what does glisc do?

[magic walrus]

I might just stay for a rater

[somber sapphire]

I think it would be better to use a sample team because this team just won’t do much for you.

Like autumn said, Garchomp is the only viable team member, and every one else here is not good.

This looks like a platinum play through team tbh. I would recommend getting samples and checking the viability rankings to understand the tier more since you seem new

!gen9ousamples

[regal ginkgo]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[magic walrus]

But the fact that 2/3 of my team looks exactly like the metal coat dengo + tb fly nite

[trail whale]

I'd recommend using pre existing webs teams, like the sample

this team doesn't take advantage of webs efficiently and even has direct anti synergy in Court Change Cinderace. You notably lack a spin blocker and have 2 Pokemon at 125 speed

[trail whale]

you are in desperate need of a Kyurem switch in and a better Ghost resist. I'd use Dragonite over Raging Bolt to compress ground immunity + Fire/Water resist, and then fill out the Tornadus slot with a better Pokemon into Kyurem such as Kingambit

[cold cosmos]

tera ice treads!

but ill try it out

[amber terrace]

Hi this is my take on a "Hawlucha Grassy Terrain Team" would greatly appreciate any sort of feedback
https://pokepast.es/bed08af311d121dd

[nocturne sable]

FWIW this looks pretty standard for the most part.

Not really a big fan of the iron valiant match up. You basically straight up lose if you use up your unburden boost with lucha before Val faints

[limber spear]

allow me to bump 😭

[nocturne sable]

Actually Straight up lose is harsh rilla can take a hit and has priority.you can also tera with gambit or heatran, but still it’s rough

[nocturne sable]

What’s rest talk Hamurott for? I’m guessing you want to improve Hamurott longevity to pressure with Hazards the entire game?

[limber spear]

😭 ok wait

gimme a sec

it was a set used by ausma

in her vid

[nocturne sable]

Yea what I thought

[limber spear]

so yeah logevity

[nocturne sable]

Hamurott typing is really good defensively so it’s not really a surprise a set like this is being used

[limber spear]

(off topic but ohkos by focus miss on krai and offensive dengo)

[nocturne sable]

And Hamurott being alive longer means having to deal with hazards throught the whole game

[limber spear]

anyways how does the team look 🙁 its kinda bad into ho

without any phrasing and stuff

i am thinking of taunt>gras knoton torn

[nocturne sable]

Yea no phasing sucks. This team also looks pretty rough into prim, your only cplay is Tera poison darkrai. It doesn’t help that you have to water resist

I mean i lied

Hamurott is a water resist

[limber spear]

only option is trick for cm and use clef for non cm

[nocturne sable]

But it doesn’t want to be eating moonblast or draining kiss from prim

[limber spear]

what if encore ham

nvm useless during sleep talk

[rapid agate]

if you’re running resttalk hisuirott you don’t need focus blast on darkrai

i feel like something like wisp would be more worth your salt

or ice beam

hisuirott can technically function as a switchin to prima if it tera poisons but it has to not be psy noise which… most are one way or another

other than offensive cm

prima mu def seems bad

i really liked av crown as a partner for resttalk cuz of its ability to switch into lu and gambit

it’s also good into treads

[limber spear]

(could go tusk>treads+av crown>clef)

also thanks for the insight

[rapid agate]

that might be ok

you could get away with a more offensive tusk set

since the gambit checking isn’t as pertinent

and yeah crown is a very good prima check

not an outright counter but it’s great at buffering and chipping it down

and obv it switches in pretty comfortably for the most part

[limber spear]

would i run sight or psyshock

i assume psyshock would be betetr for prima ?

[rapid agate]

either or, psyshock is better if your glowking mu is bad but it looks like you have a lot for it

future sight sounds nicer for breaking fat

[limber spear]

[rapid agate]

psyshock for av prima is fair too but truthfully if it’s av, crown wins 1v1

esp since volt can really pressure its clicks

it depends, i think either is fine

but i personally think future sight would be nice since you’re boots torn and don’t have any other forms of immediate breaking

[limber spear]

also reguarding the team before (https://pokepast.es/822d285f898fc498) the team feels kinda slow tho

or is that fat

and use torn as speed control in this case

[rapid agate]

its a bulkier balance yeah

torn + thunderclap generally works and the mu into pult isn’t too bad cuz of hisuirott

you can also trade with it

[limber spear]

the evs were also a bit confusing such as 1)232 evs speed on crown and overall tera dark tusk and stuff

[rapid agate]

zama is a complete non issue cuz of sinistcha

232 evs on crown are to underspeed opposing crown so you get a slower volt

you don’t need max apeed

just enough for kyurem

[limber spear]

oh

[rapid agate]

tera dark tusk improves pult and dengo mu if needed and amps knock

attack evs on tusk are a storm zone thing i’ve adopted

they still secure the kills you want from max attack while scrounging some extra bulk which can very much matter into bolt dengo and darkrai

[hot dome]

o i didnt know you were a rater ausma

[rapid agate]

i used to be

i just weigh in from time to time if i have any immediate comments

[limber spear]

just realised i dont have any knocks https://pokepast.es/13e8e27ab0893dba

do i run on tusk or torn

[rapid agate]

tusk

dnite is covered by pecha and scarf rai, and you have a ton of pressure on lando anyway

[limber spear]

tysm for the answers(felt like i asked too much )

[rapid agate]

normally i like a few knock mons

you could prolly get away with knock on torn over gknot

since lu pressure is good

but it might be greedy

it’s up to you

ig it’s nice for crown

[limber spear]

maybe double knock cuz tusk seems to be doing too much

[rapid agate]

could do knock rai

underrated af

[limber spear]

prolly not that my brain would decide to click dpulse cuz more immediate dmg

scarf knock is smth new

[rapid agate]

well you’re using it for utility

it’s a midground akin to wisp and a tool post scarf

but

you do need to be aware of trick

it’s fine to have over trick if you want

if you’d rather not play around your own trick

since you have np torn it’s less pertinent to get rid of it into lu

[limber spear]

cuz the team lacks phrasing

tricks gives me a somewhat phrazing

[rapid agate]

what?

i don’t understand

[limber spear]

em

phrazing

or the trick

prolly caused by my bad grammar

[rapid agate]

do you mean phazing?

[limber spear]

apologies

yeah

oh wtf my english

😭

sorry

[rapid agate]

are you trying to say like

[limber spear]

yes

[rapid agate]

having them forced into a choice lock

forces them out

and acts like phazing

[limber spear]

yeah ... perfectly correct

[rapid agate]

just to make sure i understand

hm

[limber spear]

mb but carry on pls

[rapid agate]

that’s interesting

i don’t think it would end up feeling that way in practice

at least not in a reliable way

you can easily convert it into momentum, for sure

but using it as a tool to spam spikes chip won’t heavily matter

because realistically how often does the mon come in after the fact

other than to be sacked

or to get off a strong midground attack

which yes you can take advantage of. trick scarf is powerful, but in the long run i don’t think it would matter in the way conventional phazing does

[limber spear]

was thinking if i move the knock to krai(over trick and run taunt on my torn)

[rapid agate]

if you do knock over trick, gknot torn is very preferable

and heat wave is pretty non negotiable

[limber spear]

could do this

[rapid agate]

cuz yea ting lu is a normal trick target

if you have torn to blow it up it won’t matter as much to get rid of your choice lock

but if you would prefer trick then tbh mono knock tusk is probably fine

[limber spear]

nah trick is like i tested for around 7-10 matches and only clicked once 😭

prolly just go knock on krai is fine

[rapid agate]

it’s good into fat but you have like 2-3 mons that beat it up

yeah

[limber spear]

i guess i willl just pressure the set up sweepers so i dont need phazing (saying like i would accomplish that in practice)

[rapid agate]

you have scarf rai and pecha

i don’t think your offense mu is that bad at all

[limber spear]

prolly just my issue

thanks ausma

(u so kind ) (holy cringe as heck )

[rapid agate]

thank you!

i try to be

[nocturne nacelle]

https://pokepast.es/b3e1a58e939e729f
hi !! very new to this
trying to make some sort of bulky offense?? very difficult to play against hazard stack or kingambit (maybe skill issue) + val dies every game + no ground switchins

[regal ginkgo]

New [Gen 9] OU RMT @north nimbus, @tacit bluff, @alpine hornet, @empty verge, @wooden linden, @echo rampart, @magic dome, @trail whale. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[somber sapphire]

I think your mu for kyu could be much better.

You could also benefit from a ghost resist so darkrai > ghold

[timid flume]

https://pokepast.es/98196dd3f90f9ef3 wanted to try Sun in Ou. I still cant decided a last teammate thats why entei is there. any thoughts?

[nocturne nacelle]

sorry, could u explain how i lose to kyurem? i thought pult and val would be enough right

also what would be a good rai set then

[somber sapphire]

hands, treads and ghold lose to earth power
alo loses to freeze-dry
dragapult loses to ice beam/meteor

[nocturne nacelle]

tysm !

[somber sapphire]

Darkrai @ Leftovers
Ability: Bad Dreams
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Poison
Timid Nature

• Nasty Plot
• Dark Pulse
• Sludge Bomb
• Ice Beam @nocturne nacelle this is the set in question

[nocturne nacelle]

fwiw ep does like 45 to hands and ghold iirc

but ya ill work on that ty

[jaunty granite]

Why is there a boomer here

You have nothing to take advantage of the terrain

Also brick break tusk

If you ever need offensive fires on sun ceruledge is almost always ur best bet

[placid yarrow]

First issue
That tusk set

You wanna be as threatening as possible

So uhhh lemme put up the one from sample gimme a moment

[jaunty granite]

AV tusk exists on one of the sample suns

But it needs to be WAY stronger than that yea

[placid yarrow]

Great Tusk @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 8 HP / 252 Atk / 64 SpD / 184 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Headlong Rush
• Ice Spinner
• Temper Flare
• Rapid Spin

[jaunty granite]

Could also have slither over rilla as the AV guy

[placid yarrow]

Next rilla
It doesn't rly benefit from the sun and set is too passive

[jaunty granite]

And make tusk rocks

With boots or smth

[placid yarrow]

And not too defensive

Infact just max atk max speed

Jolly

Well actually

Rocks aren't needed

Temper is really nice under sun

[elder knoll]

Rocks on Tork is fine

[jaunty granite]

Wait I’m insane I forgot tork had rocks

Nvm disregard that

[placid yarrow]

Ye

But now

The other problem

Entei

It's not exactly great in ou
And there's a lot of sun mons that you would rather have in that slot

Imo swap rilla and entei for assault vest slither wing and sun sweeper venu

Or bolt

Venu/bolt

[nocturne nacelle]

https://pokepast.es/72129d1483277fc1
bump (is this allowed? sorryyyy) bc i'm running into alot of the same issues at like <1500 elo with rai, kyurem is handled fine

[elder knoll]

What issues are you having?

[nocturne nacelle]

mainly just dont have a good answer to hazard stack

ting lu and glim and stuff

also tusk kinda beats my whole team

:<<<

[elder knoll]

You’d have to lean into your offense if they’ve got something like Ghost Pecha or Sinis to block your spin. But that’s just how it is if you’re relying on a solo spinner unless you want to add more Boots to your team, or slot in a Hatterene or Cinderace. Cinderace probably fits the volt turn vision you have.

To help with Tusk, you could think about adding a ground resist or a bird somewhere.

Something like a Zapdos over Mola would give you a switch into Wellspring and Tusk, but you’d need to rework your team to fit it.

You could also try including something like Scarf Enam instead of Val as a speed control option and ground resist.

Also, I’m just not a huge fan of this team , but I do see the vision.

[nocturne nacelle]

okay, thanks sm for the detailed review !!
if u dont mind i js wanna ask
what would be best to replace with cinderace? in a way i dont rly understand the ideas behind this team tbh

rn i'm considering zapdos>mola as u mentioned, defensive tusk>treads, leftovers>av on hands. maybe switch darkrai for smth else?
wdym not a huge fan! is there anything conceptually wrong that im missing

[elder knoll]

To me it looks like your team is a VoltTurn/pivot spam style team. This means your team is trying to pressure the opposing team and gain momentum by constantly forcing your opponent to switch through U-turn, Volt Switch, Flip Turn, and etc.

You can see that concept in these two teams since they each have 3 or more Pokémon with pivoting moves:
https://pokepast.es/297ba69ca070dbeb
https://pokepast.es/1acb354170441e0c

The reason I'm not a huge fan of your team is because to me it looks like it has pacing issues. I'm not sure if other people here would agree with that though. This is because you have Pokémon like Booster Iron Valiant, which really only functions as speed control once, while these sorts of teams normally prefer more consistent forms of speed control like Zamazenta, Dragapult, scarfers and First Impression Lokix. Wish Alomomola also seems like an odd pick to me. While Wish is useful for almost all Pokémon, it tends to fit best on bulkier balance and stall teams since they don’t mind Alomomola slowing down the pace of the game, and bulkier Pokémon tend to be better Wish recipients. On this style of team something like AV Alomomola would probably be better since it’s more effective at pivoting your threatening Pokémon in.

If you wanted Cinderace, it would have to go in place of one of your pivots (Iron Hands, Alomomola, or Dragapult), but replacing one of them opens issues that would need to be fixed either way.

• Replacing Iron Hands opens a weakness to Gambit, which would need to be fixed.
• Removing Alomomola means you’d need to make swaps to fit in defensive options again.
• Sacking Dragapult loses you speed control and a breaker.

Defensive Tusk instead of Treads overlaps with Iron Hands, so if you go that route you’d likely remove Hands.

[elder knoll]

wait fuck brain fart I forgot you had a Pult 😭

forget what I said about Val being your only speed control but its normally more of a HO guy.

also this is more of a preference thing but I think most teams that aren't fat/stall should try to have priority that isn't banded sucker since sweeper this gen can get out of a lot.

oh and i don't like that pult set very much i think the tera blast set is nice esp if you don't have a tera hog.

btw it looks like rai is there as a ghost resist / win con/fast ish guy/. smthing like gambit can eventually go there after you rework the team if you need a physically bulky guy steel, ghost, resist and/or priority.

ok gn

[nocturne nacelle]

right, again thank you so much for explaining this stuff so clearly! im pretty inexperienced so this helps a lot
i'll try to rebuild something with your advice, see if i get something to work as a system :>
maybe just starting over and seeing what i can make with the big idea
the idea of pacing makes alot of sense; ithink i missed that when making this, especially when trying to add more bulk (??)

wrt speed control - what would be speed control scarfers? rn i know maybe enam, rai
also just curious, which prio would be (or would any be) considered speed control? nite, rilla?

the pult set would be tera ghost tb, everything else the same then i assume ?
and yeah rai is mostly for ghost resist that can hit things

[jaunty granite]

Speed control is smth that outspeeds most if not all of the unboosted meta

Zama/pult/deo-s are the fastest examples in OU aside from scarfers

But weav/darkrai can work as it on some builds since the others are the only ones faster than them

[nocturne nacelle]

iseeisee, thanks!

is their purpose to kill things that are starting to get too strong

would that be the idea or no

[frank latch]

https://pokepast.es/483f423b413e8020 Low elo attempt at Ursaluna Balance with some very questionable sets

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[elder knoll]

If you’re going wish Mola + Luna you might want more reliable removal options

DD D-Dnite e-speed + Luna probably makes more sense than bulky D-tail since it benefits more from Luna breaking open teams

You also need some sort of end game Gambit & speed control something like a Zamazenta could work

[umbral oyster]

https://pokepast.es/f8169f067153a7b5 i want to make a good team using tinkaton keldeo and meowscarada im looking for advice and changes please.

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[jaunty granite]

Why are you specs pult with attack investment

[umbral oyster]

i changed it sorry look at the new one

[amber terrace]

Hi this is my take on a hawlucha grassy terrain team, feedback is greatly appreciated.
https://pokepast.es/d5971a862b52ad10

[frank latch]

Ursaluna facade one shots everything that's unresisted I think

I am basically using it as a sweeper

End game is wish mola tornados and Luna keeping team alive

[wooden mountain]

Clefable is out of place

[somber sapphire]

https://pokepast.es/ef0c734d7c370140 i gotta take a break from building teams

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[somber sapphire]

gonna be bumping this

[wooden mountain]

Speed control is pretty lacking

[nocturne sable]

This is not HO brotha

[somber sapphire]

is it balance?

[nocturne sable]

No HO is that slow+having fatties like pecharunt and heatran

This is more like bulky offence/weird balance to me rather than HO

[somber sapphire]

tbh i thought it was HO cuz 4 of the stuff here is quite speedy

but i gotta replace pech with something like ghold

[nocturne sable]

I would argue the 4 here are pretty slow. Fastest mon here being 364 speed isn’t really good in a meta full of zamas,pults,darkrais,aces,deoxys, etc

[somber sapphire]

https://pokepast.es/8dc5caaa3485535f this is better right

[nocturne sable]

Mons I can see working here(moth,dengo,etc) but the choice items here are really a momentum sink especially for an HO team

The only mon i can think of that can afford to run choice items on HO is pult and that’s because pult is pretty fast naturally and stab shadow ball is super spammable

[somber sapphire]

tbh ghold lacks the speed so i gave him scarf. might go with the calm mind val set

[jaunty granite]

Could this not p easily become webs atp

[stark wave]

https://pokepast.es/07e3dd8635bd2a8a
I was trying to build a pivot spam team with banded Meow - I quite like how the first five slots are doing, always feels like I have a good response to most things, but that last slot is what really has me stumped. I wanted a good late game cleaner to bring in that could capitalize on all the hazard damage that can stack up from all the forced switches. So far I tried DNite, Kyurem, and Moth but always feels like it's missing something. (Also open to opinions on changing the other five too tho, even if they're working okay)

[wooden mountain]

If you’re running chilly reception glowking in general, you should run blizzard > Draco meteor on Kyurem

[stark wave]

Fair, but I'm not sure if I even wanna keep Kyurem tbh. It does okay some games but often times when I get to the late game there's something left that stops it. Maybe it's a skill issue, but I feel there might be something better for that slot. Can't figure out what though

[stark wave]

https://pokepast.es/89fba2470bdb58b1
Maybe with Specs Pult? Does feel like I need more speed control, but a whole 5 u-turn mons might be a little excessive. Hmm, hard to figure out what I want to fit in that slot

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[umbral cipher]

https://pokepast.es/cc1fa67cda41f6be anyway i can improve this ogerpon cornerstone team?

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[clear wagon]

https://pokepast.es/2c4b792ea4b92132 tried making hyper offense

please help

[magic walrus]

The best I can say is change glisc into lead

And change volt switch to thunderbolt

Cinderace into a different attacker

[twin umbra]

https://pokepast.es/07eb239824eb3acf any tips for improvement?

[wooden mountain]

This feels more of a offense or bulky offense

[clear wagon]

any tips?

[limber spear]

feels like could switch scor+ace for a lead + another attack (theres an agility sd gliscor set used in ho if u like gliscor could go for that or could go hatt for hazard control)

and make well spring sd i think

[wooden mountain]

Hyper offense teams usually send in attacker after attacker and sacrifice each attacker to get value

https://pokepast.es/3f368590386a3ba8 how’s this

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[clear wagon]

then just offense

cuz id like to live hits

[limber spear]

then prolly bo 🙁

[wooden mountain]

Offense is more pivoting focused

[clear wagon]

yea thats the sole reason

i ran scor

cuz u turn and sucker for drag

[wooden mountain]

Bulky offense has attackers that can comfortably take hits unlike offense

[wooden mountain]

Why not landorus-therian

Very good for offense and Bulky offense

[clear wagon]

replace scor with lando t

what about glis?

[wooden mountain]

Offense teams play for quick value, which landorus therian is better at

Intimidate makes it immediately bulkier than gliscor, can fit taunt which can help deny hazards

A famous offense/bulky offense team is

LandoT/ Glowking / Cinderace / Kyurem / Iron Valiant / Kingambit

[clear wagon]

im running lando and cinder as a core

and replacing ogre with val

[pale quarry]

https://pokepast.es/a84afa334c08bca5

[low phoenix]

I like mystic water skewda these days because of how good ogerpon wellspring is right now

Gimme a sec to complete my rate

specs talonflame is dogshit just use ogerpon-wellspring swords dance or All-out-Attacking adamant trailblaze can substitute it for a breaker

if youre using offensive zapdos make it max sp.attack and speed so you outspeed lando t great tusk and kyurem

Cobalion can become black glasses kingambit for a better stall matchup a ghost resist and priority

[elder knoll]

It’s their gambit check

[pale quarry]

https://pokepast.es/165d4c9390541d70 put a walking wake here because the team would be too physical without it

Tbf

Gambit is his own check

[elder knoll]

Low kick

then

[pale quarry]

[hot dome]

wake doesn't work on rain

either have to run specs/scarf which limits it heavily without the power it gets in sun, or booster so then its just a one-time mon which is not good

[pale quarry]

😞

[stark wave]

https://pokepast.es/502c0e23f7c7afb8
Wondering how I could improve this pivot spam team. I built it cuz I wanted to make Meow work and it's been feeling decent in it but I'm wondering if I could optimize the rest of the team a bit more

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[wooden mountain]

Isn’t Overqwil mandatory or rain

It’s why rilla and woger don’t have a 100-0 mu vs you

[nocturne sable]

I’m pretty sure

Toxicroak is also an option on rain

It does a better job at walling pon and rilla

But it’s super ass outside of those matchups

[hot dome]

overqwil is not mandatory on rain

and toxicroack is kinda meh ngl

the rilla matchup is usually covered by one of gambit or bolt

and there are multiple techs for wellspring, whether it be tera dragon moltres, dnite, or yes, overqwil

however, rain in general is kinda ass, so no matte rwhat you're going to struggle

[limber spear]

https://pokepast.es/fbf391ba736fab59

https://pokepast.es/cd15e3766329b417 these teams r kinda mid not sure what i could do besides changing clod for lu (also maybe lefties over boots on clod is better)(maybe the main issue is the team lacking a vision )

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[wooden mountain]

https://pokepast.es/3f368590386a3ba8 thoughts?

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[night sun]

https://pokepast.es/18622bdb712ec70b thoughts? Okidogi sir

[somber sapphire]

You have fighting covered with okidogi so i'd personally replace focus miss (blast) on ghold with something like tbolt for water coverage

[night sun]

that's true, and water coverage is kinda lacking other than okidogi on terra on dragonite. I also didn't like the fact that it could miss so I'll make that change!

honestly I dont teambuild much so this team is probably very flawed tbh

[somber sapphire]

That’s fine lol

[final relic]

recover over focus blast

or nasty plot

not sure what this gambit does for you id just make it standard tera ghost supreme overlord

[night sun]

oh yea the gambit has the wrong ability, defiant is just wrong there

tera dark was kinda thinking of 2hkoing dondozo and ohko dragonite with super punch +2 even if multiscale was on (this team clearly struggles with either of those two)

maybe that calc is on black glasses tho

[limber spear]

yeah tera dark is near exclusive to the black glasses set

which aims to brute force through checks

[night sun]

so you reckon i go for a black glasses on this or do i just tera ghost

what’s the main use of tera ghost here though? obviously to tank fighting but i have okidogi and tusk

[limber spear]

both works cuz if u want a better stall mu u can just go some diff dengo set

[limber spear]

u flip the mu into fighting types likeival/zama

[night sun]

dengo I was thinking for some speed control and quickly 1hkoing stuff like kyurem or veil nine tales

also the team is generally quite slow other than extreme speed nite and sucker punch okidogi

[limber spear]

oh forgot about speed control

[night sun]

i see, is that worth it tho? with okidogi and tusk in the team

[limber spear]

cuz theres a metal coat tera steel dengo set thar can brute force through blissey/pexy

[night sun]

i feel like the crazy stab on a late game kingambit would go kinda crazy

[night sun]

I see

also do i go for that ev spread on tusk or should i do def?

[limber spear]

anyways wait for raters

offensive util is fine ig

[night sun]

okidogi (this was a good one wasn’t it)

[spice briar]

https://pokepast.es/28880020dd6baa46

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[spice briar]

Iron hands

[hot dome]

yeah this one aint it chief

4 choice users is way overkill, especially since 3 of them are breakers

iron hands is niche at best and certainly does not fit on this team

harcanine is pretty mid-bad as well

[hot dome]

av hands also isn't very good because half of the special attackers either have stab or coverage ot hit you super effectively anyways rendering av moot

i would honestly recommend not using hands, but if you really want, hands has seen some success on a recent trick room team
https://pokepast.es/efb4df0a37524960
i will warn you, its not the easiest team to pilot

[spice briar]

Yes I know I just wanted to use him

[spice briar]

https://pokepast.es/29cc93300ec4b3ed

What about this slightly more serious team

I like harcanine though

[spice briar]

Also not sure if oggerpon is good here I just didnt know what else to add

[hot dome]

its still double band + wellspring for triple breaker

like i said, harcanine just aint good

[elder knoll]

Tusk -> Minimum 219 speed and should be boots
Woger -> spikes pivot
Pult -> specs
Enam idk

[hot dome]

triple choice 😭

[elder knoll]

sack the Enam 🥀

[spice briar]

I could use iron valient instead of enam without choice

[hot dome]

i really think you should just sac harcanine instead

[spice briar]

Why boots hazards never do much to him

[spice briar]

No no I would never

[elder knoll]

t-spikes

prob make him Tera poison asw

tbh

[spice briar]

Alr I'll try

[hot dome]

tusk is also your pseudo phys check to everything so any chip is bad

[elder knoll]

this whole structure in general is weak to hazards

[spice briar]

Yeah I agree

[nocturne sable]

This doesn’t really seem recent. I been seeing that team for months it’s been kinda found out. But generally yea Iron hands fits well on trick room structures @spice briar

[tepid hazel]

https://pokepast.es/e0edcb999fb3f77c

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[jaunty granite]

lebron version goes brazy

[low phoenix]

https://pokepast.es/dab53bc980bf97f1

How this sd rilla team looking

[wooden linden]

I think spdef heatran seems like the play here

You dont really have a spdef tank otherwise so its nice to use it

A ghost resist is also prob needed here so smth over val imo should work

Scarf rai weav scarf samu they all work here

I'd say though that kyu can really rip into your team so a glowking somewhere here should be nice too

https://pokepast.es/6cb94a80c351022f

[low phoenix]

Thx bro

Rai is frail so i was a bit skeptical

[wooden linden]

you dont need a too sturdy check since heatran + glowking helps alongside it

[low phoenix]

Bet

Also cuz it’s offense

[wooden linden]

boulder and quaq arent really the best mons here atm unfortunately

[low phoenix]

Ima give glowking thunder wave

Para is good for sd Rilla

[wooden linden]

sure

[wooden linden]

thundy i isnt really smth thats needed here either

i'd say av treads should work since clef already has rocks and you can check bolt easier

https://pokepast.es/6f80fcada0e00ded
i'd say smth like this could work

its gonna be rough vs some wellspring but you should be able to pressure it enough

[limber spear]

allow me to bump pls

[wooden linden]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/teambuilder
i'd prob try this then

av hatt + ace facilitates tornt and zama here to break past teams

[limber spear]

the link didn’t work

ok it worked but it’s the team builder link

[wooden linden]

https://pokepast.es/f83253f8839e2282

yeah wrong link

[limber spear]

requesting too much but. would chesnaught fit in any kind of team

i kinda wanna try that too(can be on another team) any recommended cores

[wooden linden]

hmm

prob on a bulky balance with lu and alo

really punishes wellspring which alo hates

[limber spear]

tysm

[gritty lake]

https://pokepast.es/c8a0f09b84a687cf

Will someone rate this team please and thank you

[stone sierra]

3 4x ice weaknesses?

Ig the dnite set could be kyurem bait

[bright plinth]

guys does anyone know a good dragapult screens build

[queen ibex]

Hey guys. So a while back(maybe a month or so ago give or take). Me and my friend wanted suggestions from you guys for a better bulky balance team to combat Zamzenta(or however you spell that things name). But now running into a new problem. Kingsgambit especially with supreme overload has been kicking my ass and was wondering how I could tweak my team to make it better based on your guys suggestions(again the team had a lot more success than my last, we took your guys suggestions seriously and made our own team). But now this thing has been public enemy #1. So I guess my question is are there any good checks/counters to Kingsgambit I could use on my team again don’t wanna change my whole team because I think it’s generally very good, but maybe for the sake of one or two mons cause this thing has been a serious issue for me. Any suggestions will be considered. This is my team.

Sorry for the long text gentleman but I had to explain it in detail and include the Poképaste to get my point across.

https://pokepast.es/15100479ab035de9

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[amber terrace]

please give me some feedback!! webs HO team
https://pokepast.es/1d1ab0429223802e

built around ogerpon c

[elder knoll]

I would go for Jolly Gambit since you outspeed tusk on webs then

You’re able to fairy blast it without getting chipped then

Ogerpon and Gholdengo can probably run damage boosting natures. I’d also run this Ghold set:

Gholdengo @ Air Balloon
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Fighting/Fairy
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Nasty Plot
• Shadow Ball
• Focus Blast/Dazzling Gleam
• Psyshock

Prob go for power whip on Cogre for well to break past pex easier

I would also think about slotting in a toxic spike absorber somewhere

As they heavily pressure your team

[tepid hazel]

bit late but thx! Just got off of ND so still kinda nd minded

[barren ridge]

If your team isn’t meant to be competitive then please do not post it in the RMT section. Please see #1024432517077540904

[faint walrus]

https://pokepast.es/1e121d18f262b60c guys is this a boom or a doom

[desert citrus]

https://pokepast.es/b60270e4a2a97a30
i recognize that this team is weak to kingambit. how can i improve it?

[empty verge]

This a pretty solid team

A quick fix tho

I’d say drop Val for boots zama or press that helps with gambit

Then go ting-Lu > tusk

Helps vs Gholdengo and opposing raging bolt because they look annoying high key

Could even do band on pult and specs on bolt but that’s optional

^ esp if do press on zama

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[radiant flare]

what to alter on this stall

[empty verge]

I’ll leave this to someone that builds stall lol

[radiant flare]

https://pokepast.es/bb64ded915d06585

feels weak to ogerpon + anything else that might force a tera

because most oger forces tera dondozo

idk tho this is my first stall

[elder knoll]

Sack the Gweezy if you’re going boots spam

You can replace it with a Corv

and go for like Amoongus in place of clod/Mola to have a dedicated Woger check

[wooden mountain]

Isn’t it more optimal to drop calm mind on blissey to run rocks if you’re running clod and give clod amnesia

[elder knoll]

They’re WA clod

I assume their trying to patch the sun MU or something

Clod only checks what it needs to check with amnesia if it has unaware

Eh it’s prob more optional to sack the Clod for like a a Pex considering their set but if they really hate wake it’s not like a bad option

🤔

[desert citrus]

your feedback is much appreciated!
could you elaborate on this? Specs and band on two of my breakers seems a bit overkill, no? i'd like to understand the methodology

[low phoenix]

volt turn core breaking stuff

[empty verge]

What memester said

Fits very well into volt turn territory

Then your wincon would press zama

[elder knoll]

Volt turn while dropping removal?

[celest willow]

https://pokepast.es/2ad8f3abbe8cb115

[amber terrace]

Hi, thank you very much for your advice i greatly appreciate it

[desert citrus]

You can't run mirror coat on AV, I don't think

[amber terrace]

https://pokepast.es/adc75bf282a3cb1a
here is my revised version of a webs team

im a bit concerned on whether or not iron moth is a bit too greedy here?
would greatly appreciate any feedback!!